1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Hut. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. 2 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to soft WAP Radio special operations, military news 3 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey, 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: what's going on? Welcome to another episode of soft Rep Radio. 5 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: I am your host, the man behind the Glasses rad 6 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: and I have a very special guest today, Jack Goodwin, 7 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: who has joined us from the United Kingdom. Jack, Welcome 8 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: to the show. All right, it's good to be good 9 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: to see you now. Jack. You have a pretty extensive 10 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: military background, history, athletic history. You're really just all about 11 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: physical fitness and mental toughness. What started you down the 12 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: process of wanting to join the military and held were 13 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: when you made that decision very early? Actually right, it 14 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: was in my early school days. I was always interested 15 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: in physical training, physical activities through school and through the 16 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: organization a UK called the Boys Brigade and we used 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: to a lot of outdoor activities, physical activities, sporting activities, 18 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: and I think that's what led me to the initial 19 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: interest in it, and then from there I always wanted 20 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: to be a physical PA teacher in UK. Through mention 21 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: about a school and getting me not getting me qualifications 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: and exams, I thought I'll try it in the army. 23 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: So I joined the Army at sixteen, straight from school. 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Wanted to go straight down the in the physical training world. 25 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: But you you weren't permitted to. You have to join 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: another another arm or another trade or another field first 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: and then transfer into the physical training world because it 28 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: was it was deemed as a as a specialist world, 29 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: very much like the Powers and the Marines and and 30 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: the s A. Yes, so I had to take a 31 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a longer route into it, and I 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: initially anticipated, but yeah, it was literally straight from school 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: with sixteen, I joined the army. Wow. So when I 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: had enlisted, I met some people who were seventeen, and 35 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, you're already so self driven. Right. I 36 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: was twenty one, so I was already a little older. 37 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: So for you, you were already so self driven at 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: such a young age, and and already made a decision 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: to the straight and narrow, if you will, right, like, 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do with my life 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: right now, and and off you go. So you spend 42 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, a few years. You joined in the seventies, right, 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: so are you? Are you Vietnam era? Well, somebody seventy 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: three I joined a sixth day. Yeah, yeah, so seventy 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: five was about the ending of it officially, I think Vietnam. 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: So you kind of got in at seventy three, and 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: so you got out in about the mid late nineties, right, Yeah, 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I did. I did a total time of twenty five years, 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: and it was discharged in holding holding the rank of 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Warrant Officer Class one. And did you see a change? 51 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: No doubt. Have you seen a change from the seventies 52 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: to just about the two thousands in the way that 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, either the training or the military has changed 54 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: while you were there dramatically event I mean, you know, 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I saw a dramatic change from when I joined in 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: the early seventies to the end of the late nineties. 57 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: But you know, still serving in the military all that time, 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: you you seem to accept those changes more because they're 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: going on at the time you're serving. Obviously, I've now 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: been out in the army twenty five years as long 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: as I was served, and I know the changes have 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: happened since I since I was discharged have been even 63 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: more dramatic. And thinking about those changes that I think 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: they're they're more difficult to accept now, you know, once 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: you're not serving. Sometimes you can't believe the changes that 66 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: have been made and are actually happening, and sometimes you 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: can't believe that for the better, but you know, not 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: serving you. We're not in a position to to sort 69 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: of comment on that, really, I suppose sure, right, because 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I guess you have had so many different opportunities in 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: the military in the United Kingdom, and it's it's kind 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: of new to me, right learning about those different jobs, 73 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: like you know, the Queen's Guard or Her Majesty's Crew 74 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: if you will, like you worked with something specific, did 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: you work in Her Majesty's regiment? I mean, how does 76 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: that go? Like? Tell me? But obviously that in the 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: British minister there's lots of different regiments and they've got 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: lots and lots of history and tradition, and it depends 79 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: on what you want to go into when you first 80 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: join the army. Read what trade, what call, what regiment? 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: And because I was at Adamant, I want you to 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: become a physical training instructor. I was, I was recommended 83 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: and suggested that I joined the infantry rather than get 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: a specialist trade. So to leave you know quite soon, 85 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: not to become a physical training instructor. So I join 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: the infantry. I don't know what you got. You guys 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: call it the Infanstry as well. But I joining you 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: country and it was thee It was called the the 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Queen's Regiment at the time, So I was. I was 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: an infantry soldier for eight years before I transferred into 91 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: the physical training world. But in the eight years I 92 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: did an awful lot of soldiering, lots of operational tours 93 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: in um in Northern Ireland at the time. I mean, no, 94 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Northern Ireland in the late seventies the eighties was very 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: much like Iraq and Afghanistanian was where you know, the 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: guys and the battalions were going to those operational tours 97 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: every year in them days, we were going to Northern 98 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: Ireland every year, emergency operational tours. So I did that 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: for eight years, you know, and I got promoted quitely 100 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: quickly within the infantry. What was your main rafle that 101 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you were issued, because it was the SLR the self 102 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: loading rifle at seven point six too. In fact, in fact, rab, 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I've actually got one in my office there we go. 104 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Can you see that? Oh? Yeah, oh you know, I 105 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: do a right there, Yes, it's the is that the 106 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: wood and black full length SLR with a band net 107 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: below it? That is legit. Yeah, that is awesome. It's 108 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: been the active by it. It was actually a wedding 109 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: present from Ellen, your lovely wife. Yes, yes, and uh 110 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: so you know I do air soft war games over 111 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: here in the US. We have that same model in 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: an air soft version. And so there's air soft war 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: gamers who are out there running around that same kind 114 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: of kit that you know we're talking about. And so 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: it's fascinating to learn about it because, like you said, 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: you've been out for twenty five now, and so what 117 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: you used, you've gone through. You went through like kind 118 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: of like you know, cranking the generator on the radio 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: to you know, some digital like you you watched analog 120 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: to digital. Now you make me feel really all bred, no, 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: really seasoned, bro. No, you're awesome. See there's a reason 122 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: why we're talking to you now. Jack, you were in 123 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: infantry for eight years. He did deployments. You were going 124 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: after that physical training element. They said that you're a 125 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: good workhorse for the infantry with your physical training abilities. 126 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Then after that eight years, when did you finally become 127 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: like you know, the physical trainer. You were you did 128 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: twenty years of it, right, Like, that's no joke. Yeah, 129 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: you have to. After done the eight years and even 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: attended my initial physical training instructor courses, which you know, 131 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot, very long story story. It leads you to 132 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: an Advanced Physical Training Instructive course. We then leads into 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: a proviationist course which is a you know, a six 134 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: to eight month course, and on successful completion of that, 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you transfer into what's called the Army Physical Training Corps. 136 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Once you transfer that core, which there was only a 137 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: total of about four hundreds of us in the whole 138 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: British military, you then get posted to a different regiment 139 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: every three years. Albeit it could have been infantry, artillery, 140 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: signals regiment, any regiment or called within within the British military, 141 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: and in that three years anyway that they went or 142 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: got posted to, or any operational tours and then you 143 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: went with them, and then you know, three years later 144 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: you got posted to a different regiment. That's how it 145 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: worked for the rest of my career. So you know, 146 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: it was a well world spectrum, well traveled and a 147 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: veried ministry career with lots of different field force units. Yeah, 148 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: most definitely and then I see here, you know, I 149 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: have some of your your resume if you will, from 150 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: what I found, and it shows here. They also worked 151 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: with the law enforcement in England as a special operations trainer. Right, 152 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: So you went from the army, you went from the 153 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: military into still you know, selfless service if you will, 154 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: working for the people. Right back to law enforcement. Yeah, 155 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: it was. I did twenty years with a police force 156 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: in in Yorkshire where I was. I wasn't a police officer, 157 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't an enforcement officer. I as a civilian trainer 158 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: and we talked them person safety, the use of force, 159 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: conflict management, the use of baton, handcuffs, CS, taser, you know, 160 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: all that sort of public order, riot control, all that 161 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So it was it was a very 162 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: similar training environment that I was. You know, I've used 163 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to within within the British military and it was a 164 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: it was a good job. Apart from it being with 165 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: with a police force, I'll leave that there. So with 166 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: all of your training and all of your physical activity, 167 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: do you have a favorite sport that you just like 168 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: like to participate in, Like what is Jack's like sport? Well, 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: initially you're a younger days, right, it was. It was running, 170 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: it was Africa, it was a cross country athletics. I was. 171 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: I was a runner of a bit of a racing 172 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: stake in the day. But obviously, being in the physical 173 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: training corps, you have to you have to sort of 174 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: specialize in everything, all major sports, all adventure training activities. 175 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: But most of us took a different path and sort 176 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: of specialize in in certain aspects. And I was laid 177 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: down the rout, the boxing route. I boxed a couple 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: of times as a junior soldier, and that led me 179 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: onto the coaching route, then the judging route, and then 180 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: the referee route, and the referee route is now kept 181 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: me there and I've been a I've been an active, 182 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: a constant active boxing referee for the last fourty years. 183 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm still still active and very busy with it even 184 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: to today exactly. And what a perfect segue, because you know, 185 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: we met through boxing, and of course, you know the 186 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: whole veteran community when I came over to London with 187 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: software in the boxing match for the Rumble, the Remembrance Rumble, 188 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: and you've done the done them each time, and so 189 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: we'd been able to see each other and you know, 190 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: it's just become more and more of a friendship. And 191 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're so proper in your in your outfit. 192 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, I just if there's a referee in my mind, 193 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: it's you and the judge. There was a judge that did, 194 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: like Mike Tasson and like he's like, all right, guys, 195 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna get this on all right, you ready, And 196 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: he was like YouTube or who come to my mind? Yeah, 197 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: they were good days, right, And it's a it's a shame, 198 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, due to COVID everything else that it's it's 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: it's stopped them continuing and maybe in the future they 200 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: may pick up again. Let's let's hope. So it's true. 201 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, it was always a good thing to bring 202 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: awareness for all the veterans that would get together, you know, 203 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: just not in England or in the US, but just 204 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: all veterans who go out to fight for their country's 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: cause that they feel is the right thing. They all 206 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: come back with something changed in them, you know, and 207 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: that's the thing. So, you know, veterans awareness and just 208 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: letting them know that there's others out there that care 209 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: about them and that they don't have to end it 210 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: themselves and they can always call a friend or you know, 211 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: reach out to someone, right, yeah, exactly, exactly right. So 212 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: there's so many military charities out there, and the Rumble 213 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: was a good platform. There's certainly the first one. It's 214 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: a good platform for for lots of miniature charities to 215 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: come on board. And you know, a lots of money 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: was raised them for those those charities, which is which 217 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: is great used, yes, exactly exactly. And so you know 218 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: you have a funny picture, it's not really funny, it's 219 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: actually classy. You have a nice picture on your Facebook 220 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: with you and Michael Buffer. Who is that with you 221 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: right there? Yeah? Michael Buffer. Man, there's only one Michael 222 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Buffer in there. Yeah. Right, I'm not going to see 223 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: what he says. I don't need him coming happy. He'd 224 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: come over to UK a couple of times in this 225 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: year actually where I've been refereeing, called these influencer events 226 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: and they were British influences against American influences and when 227 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: Billy Arena and the O two, so he was he 228 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: came over to actually m see them. Um an announced 229 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: announced someone about So I've met him a couple of 230 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: times and a funny story was right the first time 231 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: I met him is. I actually got into the ring. 232 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: He was already in there and he come up to 233 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: me and shook my hand and he said, pleased to 234 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: meet you, Jack. And I said, well, how do you 235 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: know my name? And he said, well, I know your name, 236 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: he said, and I hear you've served twenty five years 237 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: in the in the Army. I went, how do you 238 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: know that? He went, because have been googling your house man? 239 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: Michael Buffer had actually googled me because which is which 240 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: is nice? That's classy? Yeah, that's kind of nice, you know. 241 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: It's it's he's looking to see who they've paired him 242 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: with and be classy. So you're doing these influencer matches, bro, 243 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: what what is that at Wembley? What? Who? Who did 244 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: you about? Who was about? I've done one at Manchester Arena, 245 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Wembley Arena, Christian Palace two at the O two where 246 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: just a few a few weeks ago I did one 247 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: where at the O two was packed out with twenty 248 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: thousand people. And it's just these influences from Britain and 249 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: America who are are now going down the boxing route 250 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: and putting on events and packing out these major arenas 251 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: in England. Bizarre man's absolutely bizarre. Again, it's it's people 252 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: who just want to box, and they'll begin to encourage 253 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: the box and people like me as as a referee 254 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: and on the referee qualified refereetion obviously making it safe 255 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: before him. You know, I'm gonna making it safe for 256 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: all the boxes and everybody involved in referee them. I 257 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: love to hear that that's you in there. That's true, 258 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: because you know they're kind of getting in thinking that 259 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: they can just throw the gloves on. And there's a 260 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: training regiment and there is a cardio. You know, you 261 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: gotta work out and be ready to go the rounds, 262 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: and you're in there. You know, heart attack could happen. 263 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Anybody could have anything happened without every no. I mean jeez, 264 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: when I saw somebody get knocked out at the rumble, 265 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: it took me back. I was sitting, of course, ringside. 266 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, everything was going all of a a sudden, boom 267 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: hits the pavement or the hits the canvas, and I'm 268 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: just like, do I get in there and help him? No, 269 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: he's got one two Jack's on him for Are you okay? 270 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Are you okay? No? I'm not okay, But let's go 271 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: control right, I didn't help me. Man, Oh I'll be 272 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: your security, you know, I'll just walk around. I was 273 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: have a microphone, all right, make way for Jack. Jack 274 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: ind when coming through. Excuse me, Michael Buffer, you can 275 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: come through to go ahead. Come on you guys, come 276 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: on now. You might feel really Oh that's great. So well, 277 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: you know they say we're created in God's image, my friend, 278 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: so here we are amongst each other. So softwarep. You know, 279 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: we had a good time going over there, and I 280 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: know that COVID kind of brought it all down to 281 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: a halt. So if Big Phil happens to listen to 282 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: this podcast or you know, wants to get that rumble 283 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: rerumbling again and get Jack pulled into the ring and 284 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: have a good time. You know, I'm just putting it 285 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: out there. We can try to, you know, Rubik's cubit 286 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: make it happen. Things are opening up and we can 287 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: get flying around again. And I'm sure some people would 288 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: like to bring that right back. So I'm down. I'm 289 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: sure Jack's down. Oh well, that way, I'll down. Man. 290 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: There were there were great events and you know, a 291 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: great platform for the Minute to be involved with, especially 292 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: with you guys coming across the pollens. I mean it's 293 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: I'll think he's happen to come across in on you, 294 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think so you know, you guys could 295 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: come over here. We've gone over there three, three or 296 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: four times. This time it could be over here that 297 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, Vegas. You know, Vegas might be a place 298 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to go someplace maybe like New York, you know, who knows. Uh. 299 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: But the powers that be, the guys that keep our 300 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: lights on, they can help. They can make this happen 301 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: to initiate that, right, Yeah, really, if I can get 302 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio to back it, that'd be great. Hey, 303 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. You guys want to help rad and 304 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: soft Up Radio get this going. I Heart Radio. I mean, 305 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: let's go after the guys that have the money. Let's 306 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: bring this to fruition. Yeah, right, because you need a ticket. 307 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Ellen needs a ticket. You know, that's just two tickets 308 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: right there. It's not what I'll be about to go 309 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: with me out right? No, no, right, I know right, 310 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: and and me too. So every time I'm traveling, you know, 311 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: my wife, now she's always coming over. She's she wasn't 312 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: able to go to the first two or three rumbles, 313 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: and so I took her over this time to give 314 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: her the tour of what I've been able to experience 315 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: in London and what a beautiful country and going down 316 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: the train and riding the train, I just think if 317 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: I had a metal detector everywhere I look, I just 318 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: wish I had a metal detector. I'm like, is this 319 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: where the Knights might have walked? You know? And like 320 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: where you know you know they're using the railroad. You know, 321 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: if they're using the rail that must have been a 322 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: very good path that they've just constructed into the rail 323 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like they must have used 324 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: that to get to like Portsmith and like you know 325 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: down there too, to the coast. So it's like what's 326 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: on the edges of all those fields and all the 327 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: battles and all the history in England. I love it. 328 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: There's that related to all countries. They've all got their 329 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: own history in different ways, and it's we're all sort 330 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: of interested in our own history obviously, but there's certainly 331 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot of history in UK. Oh yeah, yeah, no doubt, 332 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: especially when you look at the US being only like 333 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: two hundred plus years old. And I think in London, 334 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: I was walking and I saw a store, and it 335 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: said four hundred years plus old, and it was like 336 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: an umbrella shop. I was like, this store is older 337 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: than our country, you know what I'm saying, Like, just 338 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: so we don't see the bigger picture till we get 339 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: outside of ourselves. And so I think that that's it moment, 340 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, And I just want I just want people 341 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: to be happy, you know, and have a good day, 342 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you have to be the same, I'm 343 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: sure right at the end of the day, we have 344 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: for a good time, not a long time, you know. 345 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: A lot of life has passed us by so quickly, 346 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's you know, I cannot believe 347 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: I've I've been out the army twenty five years now, 348 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, save twenty five years. I've never been out 349 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: twenty five years. That's that's insane, how quick that the 350 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: last three or five years is on the time. So 351 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: even if they are joined fifty years ago, almost it 352 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: seems like a few weeks ago. It's just time is 353 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: just so so strange and so bizarres and and and 354 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: scary ship. You know. So transitioning from the military to 355 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: civilian life was that kind of a easy transition being 356 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: physically being a physical trainer. I know you went to 357 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: the to work for the police department, but after that, 358 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, as a trainer, was it an easy transition? 359 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: Can you give some advice to those guys out there 360 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: that have spent time in like you and are looking 361 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: to transition and still trying to cope with that, But 362 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure they've still got it now. Under British military, 363 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: but when I when I finished twenty five years ago, 364 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: they had a system in place. It was called resettlement training, 365 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: which allows you to sort of to resell into civilian 366 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: life before you left the military. For example, you know, 367 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: you was just giving a choice of the courses or 368 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: trades that you could attend CV right in interview techniques, 369 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: just to prepare you for for leaving the military. The world, 370 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: which as you know is you know become you become 371 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: very cocoons and you you become very secure within it, 372 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: and it's a totally different lifestyle once you leave. So 373 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: it did give you some preparation for getting out. But 374 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: I think I was fairly fortunate and literally stepping from 375 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: the military into the police world, it was a it 376 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: was a similar similar environment. I went straight back into 377 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: a training environment delivering you know, teaching subject matter to 378 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: to operational police officers. So I found the transition very, 379 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, quite easy in comparison to some of my 380 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: former colleagues and peers who at the time, you know, 381 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: some of them really struggled quite badly, if I'm honestor out. 382 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: There was one one of my good colleagues. In fact, 383 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: he I know, when he left the military, applied for 384 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: our hundred and twenty hundred and fifty jobs. Um, you know, 385 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: physically applied for the jobs and didn't get one interview. 386 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: Now that must have been so demoralizing for for somebody 387 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: of you know, similar to me, had the same skills, 388 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: the same qualities, the same attributes to be sort of 389 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: snubbed and knock back so many times, whereas I was 390 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: fortunate and I stepped literally straight into a police service 391 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: with a with a training job. So I think it's 392 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us down to luck. I believe a 393 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: lot of us down to your own personal attributes and 394 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: now how how much you want something, and if you 395 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: want something that bad, you'll go for it. But it 396 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: was really bad for him and being not back for 397 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: for so long, for so so many times, you know, Yeah, 398 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: now that that makes sense, Yeah, he could. Here you 399 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: go transitioning and he's probably like watching that, like okay, 400 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: and one job, two jobs, a hundred fifty different applications, 401 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: really putting a front foot forward and for whatever reason 402 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: just not able to land a gig. Could it can 403 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: just weigh on you and uh geez that that that 404 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: there's a difficult situation. I also got out and I 405 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: was kind of used to the regiment. And you know, 406 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: here's your food today, you know, here's your uniform for 407 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: the day it's cold outside. Put your beanie on the day. 408 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: You know they say your mom's not there, but I 409 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, there's something telling you what to 410 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: do and go to bed quite a bit, you know. 411 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: And now now to the youth. Tell me what would 412 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: you give to the youth as advice today? Because physical fitness, 413 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: you probably still know some of the that they have 414 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: to go through for your boot camper basic training when 415 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: you enlist is and somebody's listening to this, that's like 416 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: oh Ras interviewing Jack Goodwin. What's he's saying to me? 417 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: What's my advice to join the Should I do it? 418 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: He did in a sixteen Here I'm seventeen. What what's 419 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: that kid thinking? You know, should he be prepared? What's 420 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: your what's your three tips for that kid? Yea three six. 421 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: It is just it's the song that you want, you've 422 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: got you gotta go for it. I know when I 423 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: was in the infantry that eight years, I didn't did 424 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: the infantry. I was still throughout that eight years, I 425 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: was still intended on becoming a p T I because 426 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: I was progressing quite well within the infantry as an 427 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: industry soldier. They didn't want me to leave. And each 428 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: time I went for an office command in his interview 429 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: saying what do you want to do, I want to 430 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: be pt. No, you're not go away, And each time 431 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: I just just to keep knocking on the door. I 432 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: want this, I want that. And if you want something, 433 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: you've just got to keep pushing for it. Don't let 434 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: anybody put you off. If it's if it's what you want, 435 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: you've just got to do it until you get what 436 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: you want. That's what I did. I hustle him and 437 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: knocked on the door, banged on the door, kick the 438 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: door down. I want this, let me have it. Despite 439 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: their reluctancy to let me go, and they wanted to 440 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: progress me within the infantry. They you know, I think 441 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: they've got I think they've got Piste off with me 442 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Red you know, let him go and let him do 443 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: what he wants. So I think me advice is all right, 444 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: it's general advice for everybody and anything. If you want something, 445 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: you've got to work at it. You've got to push 446 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: for it, and you've got to you know, go for 447 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: it and achieve your goals and ambitions. Sound advice, sound advice, 448 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: you know for everybody. Just go after it. And you've 449 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: got to tell you're dead to try, so you know, 450 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: what are you gonna lose? And that's what I say. 451 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: You know, I have time, I'm dead, you know, because 452 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: at that point it's a new day for me. You know. 453 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: And you know the physical physical, the physical aspects of life. 454 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: You know that they're they're so beneficial. Even now. I mean, 455 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm sixty five. Now, I'm still training four 456 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: or five times a week, not training as as as 457 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: me and you know training, but I still I'm still 458 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: very active. And I just you know, a total advocate 459 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: that as we get older, you hit the gym, got 460 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: to just got to keep active. We've got to keep 461 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: active in anything. Doesn't have to be the gym. We've 462 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: just got to maintain some form of activity otherwise we'll 463 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: just roll over and die. And you know it's I'm 464 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: a total advocate that and I'm i'll always you know, 465 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: always have done, always will and certainly with eleonomic case 466 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: as well, with her background she's done over the years, 467 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: that's certainly a help as well. You're certainly motivator. Now now, Ellen, 468 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: you know they say there's a part off a woman 469 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: behind every powerful man, and as you know on the show, 470 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: you're super powerful. So let's talk about the power behind you, 471 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: which is Ellen, right, your blind babe. And she you 472 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: guys met how and and I mean there's there's cool 473 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: images of you haulding their hand up. Talk about the 474 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: refin and the boxing, and tell us about her professional career, 475 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: her career, Yeah, what's up. Well, remember, she hasn't although 476 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: she's a powerful woman, she hasn't been behind me from 477 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: her whole life. Man, it's only for the past sort 478 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: of five years, so you know it hasn't heard, This 479 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been I'll pushed meself, but yeah, that's right now. 480 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: But no, going back to how we met, obviously within 481 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: my referee I was. I came down to where I 482 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: am now in lower stuff and he stand there. So 483 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: there's a referee some shows, and it just so happened 484 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: that Ellen was one of the boxes for the club 485 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: that I was refereeing for. So I've actually known her 486 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: about twelve years and referee at loads of times. And 487 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, she's had I think she had about twelve 488 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: bounced now to Alves the team bounce. And seven years ago, 489 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: um she won an area sort of female middleweight title, 490 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: which I was refereeing, and that's the picture that everybody 491 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: sees me raising her arm, so you know. And then 492 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: then I lost my my second wife four years ago, 493 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: and after that me and Ellen got together and we 494 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: ended up getting married to last year. She's not boxing 495 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: competitively anymore. She's still training, she's still helping with coaching, 496 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: coaching females, coaching kids, so she's still involved in the 497 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: boxing world. She's just not competing competitively anymore due to 498 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: her due to her age. Although she's not too old 499 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: to box, it's just that the fact if she does, 500 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: if she does make a comeback, all her opponents are 501 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: just sort of females. Five years younger than her, and 502 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: that's that's difficult to compete against right now, and and 503 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: and bringing the skill set like you know, to the 504 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: rings for those to learn from her and other young 505 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: you know boxers female box is to see her, you know, 506 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: that's so inspiring. We call that. My daughter here says 507 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: when she sees a powerful woman doing something powerful, they 508 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: call it women in Stem. It's a it's a program 509 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: over here for you know, geniuses and stuff and so well, 510 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: I'll say that I'll be half my daughter Sydney to 511 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: your wife. Yeah, powerful. Now what do you see coming up? 512 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: Are you got you got boxing coming up? You've got 513 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: lots of more influencer fights. Do you know these cards 514 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: names like the last fight that you did at Wembley? Like, 515 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: is this like the Logan Paul guys? Are you who 516 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: are you refering? Yeah? Man, it's some it's people like 517 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Logan Paul hasn't been on any of these shows I've 518 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: done yet. If you've heard of k S I was 519 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: it J Paul or Logan Paul for four years ago? 520 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: The brother Yeah, he was on the last show. Sorry, 521 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: I know I've heard of him, Yes, yeah, and his 522 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: brother they're they're big in the influence of the world obviously, 523 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: and they're now big in the boxing becoming bigger in 524 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the boxing world and influence side of it anyway. But yeah, 525 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: there's I've got another influence to show this Saturday at 526 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: some the Sheffield Arena, so it's another another big venue, 527 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: another big arena that they're they're going to be packing out. 528 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: And I know there's some some big influencier events boxing 529 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: events coming up in Dubai in November. Sadly we won't 530 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: be going over for them, but that they're happening sort 531 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: of worldwide now. So to be honest, Brad, If I 532 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: am honest, the actually infressory events are putting a bit 533 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: of a mockery on the sport. But these events are 534 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: not going away. They're they're they're happening and they're getting bigger, 535 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: they're growing. So you know, it is what it is. 536 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: It's it's the world in which we live in now. 537 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: It is you know, as as I said earlier, with 538 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: people like me and other qualified referees referee these events, 539 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: were referee them in exactly the same way as we 540 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: would any other event. We're keeping them safe and we're 541 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: applying the rules in the in the correct an appropriate way, 542 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: So you know it's it can't all be bad exactly, 543 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and it can't be all that bad, agreed, because you're 544 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: involved and you aren't gonna take any guff. Like you know, 545 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: it's a sport. There's a rule of engagement, there's a 546 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: there's a code of conduct, and you're gonna make sure 547 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: it's adhered to. You're gonna make sure you can. You know, 548 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: when you're grabbing gloves when someone gets dazed and confused 549 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, are you good to go? Are you 550 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: good to go? What are you looking for? In that 551 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: fighter right then? And they're like they gotta like look 552 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: at you, Like when Tyson Fury got up and he 553 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: just all of a a suden popped up and he's like, 554 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm good, Like is that all you need? Like are 555 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: you just like are you good? What are you looking 556 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: in the eyes? What is it? Well, it's even when 557 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: we're giving boxes account range, you know, they whether they've 558 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: gone down or not, or we're giving them a standing 559 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: account as a result of a heavy blow or a 560 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: series heavy blows, you know, they haven't had to have 561 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: gone down to get account in amateur balting, and during 562 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: that account we're actually looking in their eyes. We're checking 563 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: their their state. We're sticking at checking their pupils. We're 564 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: checking the state, the condition where at the end of 565 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: the eight count we'll we'll talk to them with your 566 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: gloves up, come towards me. We're checking their responses and 567 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: if there's any any doubt in our in our eyes whatsoever, 568 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: we'll just wave it off, you know, purely for you know, 569 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: our primary concern, our primary role in the ring is 570 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: a referee, is the boxer's health, safety or welfare, regardless 571 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: of what they may think. They may think they're all right, 572 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: but they're looking at a totally different eyes that we're 573 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: looking into. So you know, we're there too for their 574 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, we're their best mates in the ring. We're 575 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: their best friends. Were not their enemy. We're the best friends. 576 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: And we want them to leave leave the ring in 577 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: the same state they get in. We don't want them 578 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: to leave the ring on a stretcher, we don't want 579 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: to leave the venue in an ambulance, and we certainly 580 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: don't want them to end up in the hospital bed 581 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: that night. So you know, if we wave it off, 582 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: we waved it off for a genuine reason, and that's 583 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: their health, safety and welfare, and that's our primary role. 584 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: I've seen you in action and again it's super professional 585 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: to watch you and to be around your your whole 586 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: charismatic referee and away. I mean, honestly, you know, I 587 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: just think that's you fit the are well Okay, let 588 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: me just put it that way, and uh, you know, 589 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm super happy to have had you. Yeah, you know, 590 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know what else 591 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: you could be doing. Yeah, you're just referee and you're 592 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: just constantly, you know, chasing it. And I would say, 593 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, as long as you're involved in these big 594 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: matches that are building up with all this momentum, as 595 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: long as it's Jack Goodwin doing it and qualified officials, 596 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: I think that it should be a positive thing for 597 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: the sport if some people can start boxing. You know, 598 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: sometimes I see these influencers step in the ring and 599 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, they must be working out, because they're 600 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: getting tight on their body. You know, they're throwing weight 601 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: at the bag. You know, they're actually trying to build 602 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: up themselves. Uh. You know, as much as some people 603 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: want to laugh at them, you know, their physiques are 604 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, I'm not coming, you know for 605 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: cardio shape. It's not like there's just it's not it's 606 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: not that's not the mockery, right, it's just kind of 607 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: the the money is the marquery that's huge, five hundred 608 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: million dollars to fight you for a sport, which is like, 609 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's people who can really fight. It is 610 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: a is a bit bizarre and I mean, you know, 611 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: the influencer the world is totally unknown and new to me. 612 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: But it's just it's just that we find it a 613 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: little bit strange or unusual that the money that these 614 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: events and these influences are generating and packing out these 615 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: major ruins in England. It's just it's just I say 616 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: that I use the word obscene, but it's just, you know, 617 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: it's bizarre. It's that they get they're getting more in 618 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: these major arenas than pro boxes are and that's it 619 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: just seems a little bit, you know, out of the 620 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: ordinary to us. I think Floyd Mayweather, loosely quoting him, 621 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: said why would I go back to doing anything else 622 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: when I can go into one of these and make 623 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: a hund a million dollars exactly. So it's all about 624 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: the money runs it's that's you know, it's all about 625 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: making money and generating money. And that's that's the world 626 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: we live in now. It's it's all about money, isn't it? 627 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Even the pro game now it's all about the money. Yeah, 628 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: you know it is it is. I can see that, 629 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, because he is an Olympian, you know Mayweather, 630 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: and he is a professional boxer too. But he's like, 631 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. A hundre million dollars to 632 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: fight me for what a couple of your Instagram clicks? 633 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: You want Instagram clicks? Hundremillion dollars. It's like, I want 634 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: some Instagram clicks exactly. It's complete no brainer for him really, 635 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: and then you you can't. Most of them are just 636 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: young kids threads. But you can't blame him. They've they've 637 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: lapsed onto something that the Internet and social media is generated. 638 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: You can't blame from lasting onto something. It's gonna make 639 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: him a lot of money, no, And I think you know, 640 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: if somebody makes it and they've come from nothing and 641 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: they've got something, then you know, then they've done it, 642 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: did what you did at the beginning. They went after it, 643 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: persevered for it, chased it, and now these guys are 644 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: making these huge events, and they've learned from behind the 645 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: scenes that some but he's the promoter, somebody runs the venue. 646 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: Somebody puts a TV ad out, and somebody puts a 647 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: post out. Two people get together and they fight. They 648 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: figured out the mechanics of the game, and so they're 649 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: just going to exploit itam especially when they can, when 650 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: they can afford to employ people like Mike Michael Buffer 651 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: to him see them, you know, yeah, really that's right, 652 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, And and yeah, because he's he's not cheat, 653 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: he knows, you know. They want Michael Buffer, who doesn't 654 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: the love of the game? Man, I think that I 655 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: you're not You're priceless. Don't you ever say that. Now 656 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: there's the love of the game. I love it. I 657 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: love it. You're great, bro. I think that you're awesome, Jack, 658 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: And I think that my listener and it should walk 659 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: away from this conversation knowing that you know that positivity 660 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: can win, and perseverance and chasing your dreams because here 661 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: I am representing soft rep on this podcast, and you 662 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: can do the same thing if you just chase your dreams. 663 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: You know, Jack's chasing his dreams. We're always just pursuing things. 664 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, we don't stop and and I can't stop. 665 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: I have to dedicate every day, every hour of my 666 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: day to something. Now I'm getting up early, Jack, I 667 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: didn't used to get up early. Now I'm getting up 668 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: like a five fifteen in the morning, just naturally. And 669 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm just going through the day. Yeah, we can't we don't, 670 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: which we shouldn't stop right There's there's there's nothing to 671 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: stop for. We've got to keep we can't keep physically active. 672 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: We've gotta keep my mind's active. We just we just 673 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: got to you know, like life, living is to be enjoyed. 674 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: So I've got to keep going. There's no reason to 675 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: stop at all, man, No, none at all, None at all, 676 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: note at all. Now listen. Well, I have had you 677 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: for a while, Jack. I know you've got a lot 678 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: going on. I know it's the evening over there in 679 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: England for you. You probably got some supper or dinner 680 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: ready for you. And I just want to say thank 681 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: you for coming onto the show and talking about you know, 682 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: just some background and who you are. And you know, 683 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: I miss you and I hope to see you soon 684 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: and I want to come over and when I see 685 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: it and if there's another boxing match, a big old 686 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: hug and you know, and it cheers for sure, and 687 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: to your wife and to everybody over in England though 688 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: I love it to you right, good to see you again, 689 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: good to chat to here. And I say, hopefully we'll 690 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: well it's not gonna happen this year, but maybe next 691 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: year there maybe a rumble as long as the world 692 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: stays a is uh a little you know, it's a 693 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: little bit. It's got a little bit more stable now, 694 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: so hopefully it stays out way and we might get 695 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: another one next year. Who knows, Maybe we can make 696 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: an influencer veterans rumble. Maybe we can tie it in somehow, boom, 697 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars for veterans. Seriously, we think about that. 698 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: I know, I know, right, I know. Well, my friend, 699 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: thank you for being on this episode of software Radio. 700 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: You've been listening to self red Radio M