1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Canst Playground. Today on the Taken a Walk podcast series, 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: we're in the beautiful town of Brewster, Massachusetts, glorious Cape 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: cod I'm here to meet up with one of the 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: most courageous individuals I'm quite sure I'll ever encounter. Greg 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: O'Brien is an award winning career journalist who continues writing 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: at a time many would give up. He's the author 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: of on Pluto, Inside the Mind of Alzheimer's, which chronicles 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: his journey as an embedded journalist going through this awful disease. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: He's also the subject of the new documentary Have You 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Heard About Greg? I'm honored to meet up with Greg 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: O'Brien for the Taking a Walk podcast series Taking a 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Walk with Buzsnight. Greg O'Brien, It is so nice to 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: meet you. I appreciate you being part of the Taking 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: a Walk podcast. Well, thank you. It's an honor to 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: be here and I appreciate it because this is such 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: an important subject that millions of people need to know 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: more about and also to put things in perspective and 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: disabuse so many other stereotypes about this disease. So the 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: documentary Have You Heard About Greg? The corner pieces of 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: it are really about faith and about hope and humor. Right, 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about faith first. Let's lead off with the 22 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: important corner, by the way, because you'll ask me a 23 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of questions I probably can't answer, which is on 24 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: my journey. Now, anyone who wants to learn more about 25 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: the film, Have you heard about Greg? And where it's playing? 26 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 1: Go to the an acronym for have you heard about Greg? 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: H y h a g dot com. So that's h 28 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: y h a g dot com that will tell you 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: where it's playing and all that great. It's an amazing 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: documentary and a story that is a beautiful story as well. 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: So your faith is growing up Catholic, right, I just 32 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: want to give credit to the people. First of all, 33 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: the genius behind have you heard About Greg is Steve Beckelson. 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: He's a filmmaker in Los Angeles. He grew up in Ryan, 35 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: New York, out of Manhattan, near Manhattan where I grew up, 36 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: and we're in the same class. And his mother and 37 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: my mother were friends. I believe they were cub Scott 38 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: mothers together and both died of Alzheimer's. And so the 39 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: film is it's dedicated to all those men, women, people 40 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: of all backgrounds in it, but it's also privately dedicated 41 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: to our mothers. And you had a serendipitous moment of 42 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: running into Steve after you had not seen him from 43 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: quite a while. Yeah, it was. Steve went back to 44 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Rive for a reunion fifty year reunion at Rye High 45 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: School and one of my best friends, Billy Saint John, 46 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: they were in class together at the high school. He 47 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: saw Steve. I wasn't there at the time, and he 48 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: said to Steve, have you heard about Greg which became 49 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: the title, And Steve said, what are you talking about? 50 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: And then Billy told him about my journey and on Pluto. 51 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: And then Steve called me back on Cape cod where 52 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: I live, and we talked and he talked about his mom, 53 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: and then I gave him a copy. I mailed him 54 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a copy about Pluto, and he heard I was going 55 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: to speak and I've done a lot of speaking around 56 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: the country and I was going to be speaking in 57 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Scottsdale at a big event to five hundred or thousand people. 58 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: I forget what it was. And he said, can I 59 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: come film it? I said sure. Based on that, he said, 60 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to do a documentary, and I said Okay, 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: you're in charge, not me, but I was co producer 62 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: of it and writer and narrator. So Steve, you know, 63 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: he's got the connection obviously because of you know, his 64 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: his you know family members, right right. But boy also 65 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: had out in La Brad Ball, who is a former 66 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: executive with Top executive with Warner Brothers, was involved in 67 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: in marketing, and Scott Kennedy involved in distribution, Amy Printer 68 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: involved with a publicity for it, and a host of others. 69 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember all their names, but I was blessed 70 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: to have that team. So faith throughout your life has 71 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: carried you through difficult times, and it carries you through 72 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: this moment in your life right now? Can you describe, 73 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, your faith and what it means to this journey. Yeah. 74 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: I first of all, I want anyone who's listening and 75 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: the most imperfect irishman they're ever going to meet. I've 76 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: committed every sinner man can commit, but no I have 77 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: but murder and Adultia, and frankly have been tested in both. 78 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: I passed the test. So I'm not an altar boy. 79 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: Although I was being raised Irish Catholic, I'm a little 80 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: more evangelical now. But if someone asked me what my 81 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: denomination is, It's Irish Catholic. That's just how I grew up. 82 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: And and so what happened in my faith is in 83 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: the Catholic school. Went through Catholic school, as you kind 84 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: of food spoon fed stuff. And when I started out 85 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: in journalism after college, I started questioning and and you know, 86 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: I was into the bar scene and all that, and 87 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: on Cape Cod and I remember being at a bar 88 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: called the Beachcomber in Wealthy overlooking a beautiful swath of 89 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: the Atlantic, and I was just bored, which is unusual 90 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: for me in those days in the bar and I'm 91 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: a regular guy, Okay, so people could understand that. And 92 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I was just driven to and the sky was just gorgeous. 93 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: On kip Cod there's some nights where you could see 94 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: the Milky Way and it's like someone took a paint 95 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: press and flecked white paint all throughout. And I was 96 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: just drawn to drive up the beach and sit on 97 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: top of a dune which is about seventy feet above 98 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: the ocean, and I was just looking out and I 99 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: just started asking questions about because I was challenging everything, 100 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: and what's this universe all about and you know, the 101 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: nun soul taught me about God? Is God real? Who's Jesus? 102 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden I found myself. You know, 103 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: I just have to tell you how it happened. And 104 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: people can have their own points of view, and I 105 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: totally respect that, because I think respect is so important 106 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: these days of different points of view. But I found 107 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: myself in a conversation with someone. I knew who it was, 108 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and I wasn't quite sure, and I kept after that, 109 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I was compelled to come back again on another night 110 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: and on another night, and I was asking questions. After 111 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: a while, I thought it was God. I said, are 112 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: you real? You know, it's like knock on the door 113 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: and the door will open. And who's Jesus? And what 114 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: about the Holy Spirit? What's going on here? And what 115 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I felt in my heart was looking out you know, 116 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: I heard in my soul, which is different from your brain, 117 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: which we'll get into later. Greg, do you think all 118 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: this happened by coincidence? Look up at the milky Way? 119 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Do you think it just happened by coincidence? So a 120 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, I'll getting to the end of 121 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: the story. I'm in my twenties and early twenties, and 122 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm running on Nasse Beach in Orleans. Anyone around here 123 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: would know where that are. That is beautiful. September day, 124 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: sky was an asia blue and temperature was just right, 125 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and I felt a peace that I've never felt before. 126 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I was overcome by and I said, Lord, if that 127 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: you let me know. And seconds later I found myself 128 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: crying in the sand, sobbing, and I hurt of my heart. 129 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me, it's because I've been through ups and downs. 130 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: But God, like everyone, but I heard of my heart. 131 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I am real and I'm never going to leave you. 132 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: And from that point on in my early twenties, I'd 133 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: never stopped doubting, committed every sin by the way along 134 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: the way that a man can commit, but murder an adultery. 135 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: But I've never stopped believing, and that's been the focus, 136 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: and that helps me get through. And I don't this 137 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: is just me. I would think it's difficult getting through life, 138 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: or it would be difficult for me without faith, hope 139 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: and humor. So that was the start of it for me. 140 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: And moving from the Baltimore Catechism for all you Catholics 141 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: who might be listening to a personal relationship with the Lord. 142 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: So do you reach a point where you don't have 143 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: any fear, including you know, fear of dying. I mean, no, 144 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: I here's my fear. I don't want to go until 145 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: my wife and my son Connor, daughter Colleen, and Brendan 146 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: are in good stead. And this disease is kicking the 147 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: shit out of me. Right now. Sixty percent of my 148 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: short term memory is And I've done these kind of 149 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: interviews before, so it's kind of like the Catholic learning 150 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: of Rote with the nuns. But again, you Catholics will 151 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: know what road is. There's nobody with a no ruler. 152 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: No one's breaking a rule over my head. But I 153 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: have many concussions, so if that happened again, that ain't 154 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: good for me. Okay, I'm a funny guy, and I 155 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: just forgot where this is real time stuff? Where was 156 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: I well, I mean we were just talking about yeah, 157 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: the open you know, preparation in life. Oh yeah, yeah, 158 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and and so you know, you learn to 159 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: move your focus. And I said before, sixty percent of 160 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: my short term memory and be gone in thirty seconds. 161 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't recognize people I've known all my life. If 162 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: you put me in a room, and I don't expect 163 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: to see him. I don't, I don't know. I just 164 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: saw a good friend of mine and Staples the other day. 165 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: I've known him since good part of my adult life. 166 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I knew it was a person of interest. I had 167 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to ask him who he was. He understood, he gave 168 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: me a hook. And there the rage is intense, the 169 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: depression is intense. I'm not proud of it. There twice 170 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: I flirted with leaving this planet, and I heard from 171 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: the Lord, not your time, and you have no right 172 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: to do it. I see things that aren't there. There's 173 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: loss of place, loss of self. But it's a disease 174 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: that can take twenty to twenty five years to run 175 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: its course. And so the person who says, well, my 176 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: mother was diagnosed and she died six years later, Well 177 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: that statement may be true, and maybe she's an exception 178 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: to the rule, but in likelihood, her mother suffered fifteen 179 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: years silently like my mother did. I lost my maternal grandfather, 180 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: my mother, my father, and my paternal uncle to Alzheimer's 181 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: in other forms of dementia. They were all afraid to 182 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: talk about it, and because of the taboo, the fear 183 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my job. It's the brain. Oh my god. 184 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: You can't remove a brain. But you don't get Alzheimer's 185 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: the day you're diagnosed, just like you don't get cancer 186 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: the day you're diagnosed. And I have advancing prostate cancer now. 187 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: And I was diagnosed two weeks with prostate cancer two 188 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: weeks before I was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. So when you 189 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: were with your mom as she was ready to, you know, 190 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I was the family, my mom and dad. My dad 191 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: was born and raised in the Bronx. My mom on 192 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: the Upper West Side of Manhattan. My dad was director 193 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: of pensions for pan Am in the pan Am building. 194 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Had a great job, but we had ten kids, so, 195 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: you know. But they were able to buy a vacate 196 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: or build a vacation home. First we rented and then 197 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: they built a vacation home on Cape Cod and we 198 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: spent summers down here. But when I ended up, after 199 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: traveling around the country working for newspapers and doing different things, 200 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: ended up coming back to Cape Cod because I wanted 201 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: to raise my kids here and doing most of my 202 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: work then in Boston and New York and just traveling, 203 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: you know. But I want to raise my kids here, 204 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: and my parents after my dad retired, retired here and 205 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: then they started slipping into dementia Alzheimer's, and I became 206 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the family caregiver because the rest of the kids who 207 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: were in New York in different parts of the country. 208 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: So it was an honor, but it took a lot 209 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: out of me. And along the way I had I've 210 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: had I've played a lot of sports in high school 211 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: and college and numerous concussions and I had too serious 212 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: head traumas. One was a bicycle accident without a helmet 213 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: and the other was a car crash where my head 214 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: hit the windshield and cracked it. And now, with a concussion, 215 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: it's not going to cause Alzheimer's or dementia, but if 216 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: you're predisposed to it. Let me look at all the 217 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: concern about kids and sports today, and I'm a big 218 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: sport enthusiast, and with professional sports, there's a concern that 219 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: you take a lot of hits of the head, it 220 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: can move you into a form of dementia. So your 221 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: mom is dying, But at that point you sort of 222 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: made a I think a commitment that you were gonna 223 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: work at telling the story as a journalist telling the story. Yeah, 224 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: well I was there at both their deathbeds and uh, 225 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: and my mom was was in full blown Alzheimer's. My 226 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: dad was he had prostate cancer. He had macular degeneration, 227 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: which I've started on. Uh. Uh, he had a form 228 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: of dementia. He had circulation bypass operations because he didn't 229 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: have feeling, and I mean he was his body was 230 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: just depreciating and he was in a wheelchair. And my 231 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: mother again which which gave me so much courage, she 232 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: was taking care of him, to take care of him 233 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: in Alzheimer's, and they didn't want to go to the 234 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: nursing home. I understand that my dad's parents died when 235 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: he was young in tuberculosis the quick consumption, and he 236 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: was shuffled around to a lot of places. And I 237 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: could see that, and I said, okay, Dad, And so 238 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time up there and we 239 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: had to get help, which we did to twenty four 240 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to seven people in the house. I was still the 241 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: family caregiver, but but my mom during that time was 242 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: sticking forks in sockets and serving my dad coffee grind 243 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: sometimes for dinner. Wow. And and then there were times 244 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: when they would, I wouldn't remember how to put the 245 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: phone back on the handle, you know when you shut 246 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the not shut the yeah, yeah, yeah, you put the 247 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: home you know whatever. I can't think of the word 248 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: people know, and the conversations over you click it down. 249 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: And so there are times like at nine point thirty 250 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: I would call just or nine o'clock I called just 251 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: to check on him, and it would just kept ringing 252 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: and ringing, and I go, oh, my god, are they dead? 253 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Is there a problem? So I would I lived about 254 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: twenty minutes away in Brewster, and they were in East 255 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: Ham on the Cape, and I go up there and 256 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: there they are in the living room watching Johnny Carson 257 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: or something fine, and I'm saying, WTF, And they go, Greg, 258 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing? So I had to come up 259 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: with a story, and I said, I just got out 260 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: of the gym. I wanted to see how you guys 261 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: were doing. But that was my life then, and it 262 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: took and I was in my own way recognizing the 263 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: symptoms of me because of the head injuries. I also 264 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: carry the Alzheimer's genepoe four, and people they don't know 265 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: what that is. They could look that up, but it's 266 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: and it scared me, and I was in denial about it, 267 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: and my mom would which was kind of a mantra 268 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: I took on. She knew she was very bright. So 269 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: the thing is about there's a lot of things about stereotypes. 270 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: They think, well, all of a sudden, you have Bolzheimer's 271 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: and you're taking dumb pills. That's not true. There's something 272 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: everyone's different. The doctors will tell you there are no 273 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: two forms of this disease alike, like snowflakes. But my mom, 274 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: like me and my father, they were high intellect people. 275 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: And I was blessed by the Lord with a with 276 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: a smart brain. And it's something called cognitive reserve, which 277 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: is it's like an extra fuel tank of IQ when 278 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: the brain starts to fail and and one gets that. 279 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: And this gets back to brain health and the brain guide, 280 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: which I want you to ask me about because I'll 281 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: forget it. It's an example of someone who has developed 282 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: their brain and exercised their brain and their body all 283 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: their life, and sometimes that can help you go deeper 284 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: into the woods. And that has helped me and helped 285 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: my mom and my dad, and so even as my 286 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: mom was getting further in the woods, there was a 287 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: side of her that knew what was going on, and 288 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: her mantra was, greg I can't get sick. I can't 289 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: get sick. I can't get sick. Well, she was sick, 290 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and that's been my mantra. I'm not going to give in. 291 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: Screw this, I'm not going to give in. But sometimes 292 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: it just takes you out and then you have to 293 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: just give yourself a break at that point. Yeah, I 294 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: tell people, and I'll show you here because this is 295 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: radio or podcast. But I'm holding up my cell phone 296 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: and my iPhone and I'm saying my brain is is 297 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: like an iPhone. It's still a sophisticated device. It has 298 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: a short term battery and gets lost very easily, and 299 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: so it But but what's so important are strategies. And 300 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's important to anyone's listening that 301 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: they want to take away. I'm not an expert on medicine. 302 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: I cut up a frog in high school, but I 303 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: am a no I did, and I I mangled it, 304 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: partly because I think I wanted to don't make judgments 305 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: about me. But I was a wise guy in high school. 306 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: It was Archbishop Stepanich High School in White plains and 307 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: it was a creepy thing to cut a frog up. 308 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: So but I serve now on the board of US 309 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Against Alzheimer's in Washington, d C. And you could google 310 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: Us against Alzheimer's and look up something called brain Guide. 311 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: It's right there on their website, and that will give 312 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: you good research into because a lot of people on 313 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: this journey don't recognize it, and because they don't want 314 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: to until it's too late. There is so much strategy, 315 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: so much help out there to get you through these years. 316 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: For the average person exceptions to everything, it can be 317 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: a twenty to twenty five year course here getting through it, 318 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I could have, sadly, which I don't want another eight 319 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: to ten years on this because I'm freaking done now. 320 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Uh and and and and you'll learn all about US 321 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: against Alzheimer's. And then also I do a lot of 322 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: advocacy work for the Cure Alzheimer's FUN of Boston. And 323 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: and look up doctor Rudy Tansey t A n z 324 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: y r u d y t A n z y uh. 325 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: He's the chief researcher for a world expert in Alzheimer's 326 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: for the Cure Alzheimer's FUN he's with Mass General. He's 327 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: at Harvard, and he has something called shield s H 328 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: I E. L. D. And I can't remember what it 329 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: stands for. But if you what what it is is 330 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: it gives you each letter s for good example, talks 331 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: about ample sleep, and and and and it goes all 332 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: through all about how how one can maneuver through this. 333 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: And that's why early detection is so important. Clinical trials 334 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: are so important because, uh, it will tell the doctors, 335 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: will tell the doctors if you're on this path. And 336 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: if you're on this path, now there's things you can 337 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: do to slow the progression and help you through it. 338 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: And some people will say, well, I don't want to know, 339 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, so the great bugs Bunny, he was 340 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: paraphrasing someone else. Don't take life too seriously because no 341 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: one gets out alive. My pastor, Doug Scalice, who's in 342 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: the film Have you heard about Greg? He cracked me 343 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: up in a recent sermon. He said, you know, mortality 344 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: is still hovering around one hundred percent, So get help. 345 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: There's help out there. A strategy. There's a strategy and 346 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: that I use as a writer, written all my life, newspapers, magazines, books, scripts, 347 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: and I use my laptop as my portable brain. When 348 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: I got the diagnosis, uh, and my wife was with me, 349 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: I started writing down everything I was afraid i'd forget. 350 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: I ended up with close to two thousand pages of 351 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: notes and research, and from that I wrote on Pluto 352 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: with the help of my good friend Lisa Genova, who 353 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: wrote Stella Alice and other New York Times best selling 354 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: authors for encouragement, William Martin and Leclair and others who 355 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: gave me encouragement. And that's how I did it. And 356 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: I met Mary Catherine, your wife, as I was coming 357 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: here for for the the interview, right, I didn't detect 358 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: that she's the warden, but I believe, Well, it's a 359 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: love term. I know, I love that. I also I 360 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: also because you have you have no filter in this disease, 361 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: and and so you end up taking things out on 362 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: those that you love. And so sometimes we're out in 363 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: public and I'll introduce her as my first wife. Now 364 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: that's not cool, but she knows I'm just kidding. He knows. 365 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's an Irish thing. It's a term of endearment. Yeah, 366 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: and any of you Irish people out there would know 367 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: that it's a term of endearment. Are you still writing? Yeah? 368 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: It takes me much longer now, But that's a good 369 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: question because it leads into something else, which I think 370 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: is so important in my journey and through my mother. 371 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: My mother taught me how to fight this disease. That's 372 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: why she's a hero. I love my dad, a typical 373 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: father son relationship, but my mom turned out to be 374 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: the hero of my life and taught me in her 375 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: own Alzheimer's how to maneuver through this mother's son. And 376 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: she taught me that when the brain starts to fail, 377 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: search for the heart. And again this is just me 378 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: speaking my mom speaking to the heart. Is I believe 379 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: the soul, and the soul never dies. It's the part 380 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: of us. It's who we are at the end of 381 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: our lives. Our brain fails, but that's not our essence. 382 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: Our essence is the heart, the soul. I was in 383 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: church yesterday and a good friend of mine has als 384 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: and another friend of mine, like me, has advancing prostate cancer, 385 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: and so I started praying for them and saying, God, 386 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't want them to die. I don't you know, 387 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: because I'm really concerned about both, particularly my friend with als. 388 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: It's really getting bad. And I heard in my heart, 389 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: not my brain. This is an old saying. The brain 390 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: may not be all it's cracked up to be. Greg 391 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: No one dies, the soul survives. And you good Heaven, 392 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: your friend Paul, I'm gonna give you his last name, 393 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: isn't going to die. His body is going to go, 394 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: his mind will go, but that's not the essence of 395 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: who he is. And my mother taught me how to 396 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: search for the heart and for that place of the soul. 397 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: And imperfect guys I am. I've learned over time, with 398 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: a lot of scriptural reading and things like that, how 399 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: to begin the process of searching for your soul. And 400 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: I would encourage anyone who feels that that's something they 401 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: might want to do. And my writing, even though it's 402 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: taking longer now, has improved dramatically because it's become more lyrical. 403 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: And I've had good friends of mine who are accomplished 404 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: writers who have said, on this journey your writings, and 405 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: I was always a good writer, your writing has become 406 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: much better. And one of my buddies from New York City, 407 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: and by the way, you're less of an asshole now. 408 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: I was thrilled when he said that. Of course I 409 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: was thrilled when he said that. But a good example 410 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: of strategies is and it applies. Strategies apply to different 411 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: people depending on what you're doing. But in writing, if 412 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: there's a concept that I'm looking for, it happens all 413 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: the time. Now, that's why the writing takes longer, and 414 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: I can't find it in my brain. I'm looking from 415 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: my heart. I'm looking, and so I play charades with 416 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Google sounds like, looks like, and all these things pop up, 417 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: and then it's a process of following up on what 418 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: comes up on the screen, and it might take me 419 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: twenty minutes to find the name of a concept I'm 420 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: looking for, which is frustrating. But when I find it, 421 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: I feel good and I feel like I can look 422 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: the demon in the eye and say, you didn't get 423 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: me today. And is the writing just you know, about 424 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: things of the heart at that moment. Yeah. Well, the 425 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: good example in Pluto. I couldn't write on Pluto today, okay. 426 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: And there were times when I was searching the soul 427 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: and I was writing and it was coming out lyrically, 428 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: and I was writing and I'm just going to tell 429 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: people because I don't deserve credit for anything, God, the universe, 430 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: however you want it. I'm just I get my audiences. 431 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: Your audience here is probably outside of Boston. But you know, 432 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I think God's like coach Belichick, just do your job. 433 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: And so I'm just trying to do my job. But 434 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: there are times when I was writing and I would 435 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: look up at the screen here and I'd say, where 436 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: did that come from? I'm not that good? Where did 437 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: that come from? And I realized that I was writing 438 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: from my heart, my soul. And it's gratifying though when 439 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: you oh, it's but it, but it more, it's humbling. Yeah, 440 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: does that make sense to you? It's humbling, you know, 441 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: because you know it's not you, so you don't take 442 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: the credit for it. You're in awe of the process. 443 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of as as someone like you said that 444 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: now I'd like to take credit for not being as 445 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: much of an asshole now, I want I want credit 446 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: for that. But on the other stuff, I don't know 447 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: you could own that. But it sounds like to a degree, 448 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, as as someone who's a fan of sports 449 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: right said, it sounds in its own regard the writing 450 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: piece a little bit like you know the notion of 451 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: being in the zone. Yeah, it's exactly. That's exactly it 452 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: in the zone. Yes, I'm glad you brought that up. 453 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: It's getting into the heart zone of writing, just like 454 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: athletes get into the zone. And and I remember, because 455 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: I'm someone to asked me the question before. I remember 456 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's personal hero of mine, and there was I 457 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: was watching the game on TV many many men years ago. 458 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: He couldn't every everything he shot you, and and and 459 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: the and the the guys on his team were just 460 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: going nuts. They're going, oh my god. All of a sudden, 461 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: he runs by and he puts his hands up like, 462 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where that's coming from. And and and 463 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: he was in the He just he gave a shrug, 464 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: he goes, I don't get it, but but he was 465 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: in the zone. And and I think the focus, I mean, 466 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: everyone has to find their own focus. But trying to 467 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: learn what I've learned in this is and is to 468 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: try to get into the zone of life. And I've 469 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: tried through the zone of writing, but it goes goes 470 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: beyond that. But it's it's a humble journey because you 471 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: know how imperfect you are, and you know that there's God, 472 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: the universe, whatever you want to call it. There's something 473 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: far more powerful than you out there, and you're just 474 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: trying to track catch you know, connect with it well. 475 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: And you know we're in beautiful you know Cape Cod uh. 476 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: And it's also so you know, the same as the 477 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: mindfulness of a moment where you hear the birds chirping. Yeah, 478 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: you'd see the you know, the beautiful you know, ocean 479 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: front or whatever. Just you know, I couldn't be in 480 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: a living in a better place with the stress and 481 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: fear of Alzheimer's. Yeah, it's it's peaceful. Yeah, you don't 482 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: have to think about what When I was talking and 483 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I wrote about it in on Pluto Inside the Mind 484 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: of Alzheimer's, I wrote about what I call the magic 485 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: of the bridges. And I remember this when I was 486 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: a kid coming over from the mainland over the two 487 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: bridges on kipe Cod, Sagamore and the Boorn. We would 488 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: come over the Sagamore and when I get to the 489 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: top of the bridge, it was an incredible peaceful feeling 490 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: that I was in a good place. Yeah, yeah, I 491 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: felt that way myself, you know, hitting the bridge, Yeah, 492 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: you almost take a deep breath and you go, Okay, 493 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: this is good. Yeah, you know there's something about it. Yeah, 494 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: it's a moment and it's never gone away from me. 495 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: And I first started coming to Cape Cod, of course, 496 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: I was not on my own. I was four years 497 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: old at the time, in nineteen fifty four seventy two. 498 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Was born in nineteen fifty and been here on and 499 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: off the rest of my life. Was your mom funny? Yeah, 500 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: she was funny. My dad was funny. They had well there. 501 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: My dad and mom were second generation Irish. We have 502 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: forty eight branches of the family tree, and forty seven 503 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: go directly back to Ireland. My dad was from County 504 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: Clare O'Brien's. My mom her maiden name was Brown, and 505 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: she was from the Wexford area south of Dublin. So 506 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: they had to probably have a sense of humor too. Well, 507 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: you had to have a sense of humor to raise 508 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: ten kids. Yeah, I mean really yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 509 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: And and they did now and they had strong faith, 510 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: and I learned faith, hope and humor from them. So 511 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: the hope aspect is really about trying to be at 512 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: peace with something really at a moment too, right, Yeah, 513 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: the hope aspect. In fact, it's interesting my pastor gave 514 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: a sermon on hope in the Book of Romans, and 515 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: hope is believing in something you can't see, and hope 516 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: is the hope of God, knowing that even though in 517 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: life they're good things and bad things, but there's paradise 518 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: at the end, and this is just a waiting room, 519 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: and so that's it's okay to get into. And I 520 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: have so it's okay to get into a pity party. 521 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: But pity party really is a party of one, and 522 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: so it's okay to feel bad for a while, but 523 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: I urge people to get up when they can. Another 524 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: analogy here is lying down and wrestling as a position 525 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: of defeat and walk in hope, because regardless of when 526 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: things in life are going to turn, generally nothing goes 527 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: perfectly for everyone. There's the finish line at the end, 528 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: and that's where the hope comes in. And there can 529 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: be miracles along the way too, but miracles don't happen 530 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: to everyone. And so in the big press conference in 531 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: the sky at the end after Judgment Day, I get 532 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: a few questions, I'm going to have my hand out. Yeah, 533 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: you might just be silent. No, no, no, no, But 534 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: it's funny. I and I've talked about this the other day. 535 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: In my relationship with God, I see the Lord as 536 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: a combination with me in dealing with me as lurch 537 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: in the Adams family, just groaning and and uh Telly 538 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: savalas the lollipop icon and Kojak who loves your baby? 539 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: And so I I see God is and I see 540 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: God as a sense of humor. Uh. And I've written 541 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: about this too, not too long ago. I had a 542 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: w TF talk with God. People can figure out the 543 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: anacronym w t F. I don't know that that's the 544 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: word you want your audience to hear, but it's okay, 545 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: they've heard heard worse. But fuck it? Right, Yeah, sorry, 546 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: there I go again. Perfect. Sorry Larry David, who's a 547 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: hero of mine. Oh, I love Larry David. And all right, 548 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: so where was I going here? Smart? Well, you know 549 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: what you were you First of all, you gave a 550 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: great depiction of the word you'd have with Oh yeah, 551 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: thank you. All right, Yeah, that's what I was doing. 552 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: So and by the way, sorry, I'm glad that uh 553 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: you didn't add a dash of of curly Joe Besser 554 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: representing no no, no, but I, but I, but I, 555 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: but I love them. Yeah yeah, another hero, another hero. 556 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I I had I had a 557 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: shot because there are times in my office and this 558 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: is just how the disease works, and my family have 559 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: seen it where you go into rage. You're going to 560 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: rage sometimes when the brain shuts down or you or 561 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: you can't do what you and you start yelling and screaming. 562 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: And I've done that, and I've taken the Lord's name 563 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: so many I've sought help from pastors and priests and stuff, 564 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: and they said God has big shoulders where I get 565 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: mad at God and and so I I I had 566 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: this WTF And I said WTF with the real words. 567 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: God's got broad shoulders, is you know? I said, what's 568 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: going on? You got? You know who? I am trying 569 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: to do the best I can, but you you gave 570 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: me all the time as you gave me cancer. Recently, 571 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: I had because the body breaks down in Alzheimer's. I 572 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: had a spine replacement surgery knowing the Baptist a year ago, 573 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: where they cut my back from the bottom of my 574 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: neck to the top of my butt, put steel rod's 575 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: plate screws. I still you know how to have a 576 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, I still have no feeling from the 577 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: middle of my back to the top of my butt 578 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: and over time because it's neuropathy, but signals aren't going 579 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: down complicated from the brain and little feeling from my 580 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: knees to my feet. And I and I've lost probably 581 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: thirty percent of my site, maybe more. I go WT. 582 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do the best I can do. You 583 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: have a clue who I am? And I believe that 584 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: God speaks to you in terms and uses words that 585 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: you use all the time, so you know when God 586 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: is speaking. And God has a sense of humor. And 587 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: I say, and I want a God with a sense 588 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: of humor. And I want a God like a coach 589 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: Belichick do your job. And I said, do you have 590 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: a clue who I am? And immediately I heard a 591 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: word that I use all the time. God, you have 592 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: a clue who I am? Yes, dumb ass. I made 593 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: you and I have you right where I want you. 594 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: And I started laughing. I almost started crying, and I said, okay, 595 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: I just needed to know you were there. Let's move on. 596 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: But God called me dumb ass. I love that now. 597 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: There are people who would say, oh, you can't know, 598 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: we're all different. I want God to call me dumb 599 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: ass and said you could do better. Pick it up. 600 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: And I made me love God more because he called 601 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: me a dumb ass. And I love that. Now. I 602 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: know people who listening and go, go, we've got to 603 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: understand we're all different and when we respond to the 604 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: Lord in different ways. But hope you also are on 605 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: this mission of where on Pluto is about and about 606 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: where the documentary is about two you know, draw attention 607 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: to something that needs to be out of the darkness. 608 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: So ultimately there's more attention put to Alzheimer's in terms 609 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: of funding and that you know, something good comes out. 610 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: It's yes, you're where you're part of your hope, right, yeah, 611 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: it's it's funding, but it's also given people hope when 612 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: they walk through this with all the strategies that are 613 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: in place so people don't despair, and and and to 614 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: increase the number of people who were talking about it. 615 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: What I want to see with Alzheimer's is just to 616 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: use the cliche to get bring people out of the 617 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: closet talk about it. You know, we had years ago 618 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: didn't talk about cancer was a big seed. Didn't talk 619 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: about AIDS heart disease. We kind of, uh, you know, 620 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: tripped our way through, and but we moved on with 621 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: those and now we need to build a critical mass. 622 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: So that's a prime purpose on Pluto inside the mind 623 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: of Alzheimer's in the film have you heard about Greg? 624 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: The other side of it is the walk toward the 625 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: end and trying to do some good things on the 626 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: way out. And I write from perspective of a baby boomer, 627 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: where we first played by the rules, we broke the rules, 628 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: we made new rules. Then a lot of us went 629 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: on to do more establishment things, and now in the 630 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: last laps of our life, we're trying to say, Okay, 631 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: what are some good things I could do on the 632 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: way out? And bugs, Bunny, don't take life too seriously 633 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: because no one gets out alive, So how can we 634 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: all prepare for paradise? The work that you're doing is 635 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: just well, I'm not doing the work. I'm just the 636 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: dumb ass. The God is the dumbass work that doan 637 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: you on God's behalf right, Yeah, is absolutely beautiful, inspiring. 638 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 1: It's so important, and I hope everybody who's listening here 639 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: worldwide either picks up. I know on Pluto has been 640 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: published in different different languages. Yeah, right, So I hope 641 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: it was also published in Mandarin. And I have a 642 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: funny thing. I have people in the office and I 643 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: give them a copy and I said, can you check 644 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: this to see if there are any typos? So I 645 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: hope people pick up on Pluto. I hope people say 646 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: the documentary have you heard right? And if you're looking 647 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: for places, have you heard about Greg? It's h y 648 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 1: h a g dot com and you'll find out. And 649 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: also I heard today that the film will be showing 650 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: and hopefully I'm pronouncing right, and cons and the film 651 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: festival and in France. Great someone told me that today. 652 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: And let's reaffirm. Also some of the particular Alzheimer's organizations 653 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: that you want to chare. It's so Google us against 654 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: Alzheimer's and and look on through that for the Brain Guide. 655 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: But there's all sorts of information about Alzheimer's in it. 656 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: The Cure Alzheimer's Fund of Boston and doctor Rudy are 657 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: you d y tanzy t a n z Y Mass 658 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: General Harvard chief researcher at the Cure Alzheimer's Fund close 659 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: friend of mine absolute brainiac and he has. If you 660 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: google him with the letters S H I E l D, 661 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: you're going to come up with a whole list of 662 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: things that you can do in this journey to maybe 663 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: push off symptoms for a longer period of time. And 664 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: that's what it gets back to getting involved in clinical 665 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: trials now and early diagnosis. I ended up getting an 666 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: early diagnosis ten years before I would have because I 667 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: had the serious head traumas that both of which the 668 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: doctors that you probably shouldn't have survived, and that caused 669 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: me to get an early diagnosis because I couldn't do 670 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: my job as a reporter. So I might now about 671 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: ten years into this, I could have another ten years 672 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: or longer, which I'm not happy about, but I need 673 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: to just do my job, dumb ass that I am. 674 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: So I ended up getting a diagnosis earlier. But what 675 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: that has helped me to do, because we all have 676 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,479 Speaker 1: things in life to do, is help me to write 677 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: about it while I can. And I couldn't write on 678 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: Pluto today, but I could then. And so I guess, 679 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: if you want to call it, that's a blessing and 680 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: it's sharing your vulnerability, and it's brave and I appreciate 681 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: the time on the Taking a Walk podcast well, God 682 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: bless it, it's an honor to be on this. Take 683 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 1: care and thank you for listening anyone. Taking a Walk 684 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 685 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. M