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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and it's a lovely Friday as we close in

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Speaker 1: on the start of training camp. Effect. Matt, I believe,

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Speaker 1: if I'm right about this, I believe the first practice

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Speaker 1: at training camp that has opened to fans is two

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Speaker 1: weeks from today.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah, if Thursday is the first practice,

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Speaker 2: and they will be the acclimation period as people probably know,

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Speaker 2: and then Friday, day two of practice is open to

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Speaker 2: anyone would listen, So stop by and get up.

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Speaker 1: There, you know, absolutely absolutely, and you'll get to see. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've been going over this past week here the voting

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Speaker 1: that has been done on ESPN that you're a methola

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Speaker 1: put together right, talking to a league executive, coaches, scouts

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Speaker 1: ranking the top ten players at each position. And today, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we have height ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Let's dig in because there should be a.

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Speaker 1: Stealer involved, you would think, so looking at this list,

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Speaker 1: there's again a lot of tight ends are among but

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Speaker 1: they got a lot of different guys got votes on

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Speaker 1: this list.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, as you're saying, and the others, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: considering some teams have two great edg rushers or two

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Speaker 2: or even three great receivers. Not I don't know any

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Speaker 2: team has two great tight ends, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that there so many votes is kind

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Speaker 2: of interesting to me. Yeah look at the first time.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to dissect into it.

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Speaker 1: The others receiving votes, Mike GESICKI, Gerald Everett, zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: Logan Thomas he doesn't even play football anymore, Juwan Johnson,

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Speaker 2: Josh Oliver has no business being on there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know he's a good blocker, and some old school

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Speaker 2: executive in the league is probably like what he's important

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Speaker 2: on third and one and come on, you're right. Logan Thomas,

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Speaker 2: to me has no business being on there. Even on

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Speaker 2: his best day. He's probably not a top ten guy,

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Speaker 2: and his best day was five years ago. I have

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Speaker 2: a problem with Gasecki too, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: I mean I would put Gerald Everett. I put Everett

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Speaker 2: or Juwan Johnson over Gasecki as like smaller move big

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Speaker 1: Yeah nothing, Yeah right, I'm with you. The guys who

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Speaker 1: got honorable mentions Dalton Schultz, David and Joku no Fant,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee, Hunter, Henry and Cole Komett.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I really don't have any objections.

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Speaker 2: The Djokho might have made my top ten. He's my

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Speaker 2: favorite of the just missed guys. But he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: No, I mean there's just not a lot there that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had a good year last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was really his first good year exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: So no, I'm cool with that. I do think he's

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Speaker 2: a little bit on the rise, But so what you know, at.

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Speaker 1: Number ten, let's see if you would put him on

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Speaker 1: there over any of these guys. Number ten is Dawson Knox.

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Speaker 1: His highest ranking was five. Wow. His lowest ranking was unranked.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. Last year he was number

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Speaker 2: I prefering to joke Uden Knox. I think he's a

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Speaker 2: think it is noteworthy and they mentioned it here that

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Speaker 2: are telling you we don't want to do that anymore,

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Speaker 2: you know, we want to get more back to the mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right right.

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Speaker 2: Teams tell you stuff.

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Speaker 1: Teams do tell you stuff. At number nine, highest ranking,

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Speaker 1: Last year he had he was an honorable mention guy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the fact that he was an honorable

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, the one NFL coordinator said, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: All nine of fire Moose's touchdowns have come in the

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Speaker 1: the past two seasons. A veteran AFC scout said he's

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Speaker 1: Don't think he's a overrated No, and B I don't

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that. I mean, maybe it helps

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Speaker 2: But I mean I get the Heathish vibes. You know,

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Speaker 1: They've done that since Heath Miller retired. It didn't matter

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Speaker 2: That, right, because it's fun. I don't know the overrated thing.

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Speaker 2: It's skill position, players. I think you can translate to

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Speaker 2: six eighth tight end off the board in fantasy right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's properly rated, not over or under,

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Speaker 1: I would one hundred percent take him over. The guy

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Speaker 1: ranked number eight on this list, highest ranking, five, lowest ranking, unranked.

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Speaker 1: Last year he was unranked, and that's Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 2: I think I like Ingram more than you do, but

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Speaker 2: I would have Pat Fryarmouth ahead of him for sure,

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Speaker 1: I think he's more consistent. I mean, you know, ye, yes,

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Speaker 2: Right right, right right. And I thought he was very

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Speaker 2: Kansas City does this with Kelsey all the time. That

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Speaker 2: not gonna block anybody.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not gonna block anybody. And he was a

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Speaker 1: tremendous athlete coming out of college. Yes, the thing that

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Speaker 1: he has struggled with is consistent, consistently catching the football.

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Speaker 2: as that twenty seven year old neighborhood you know, as

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Speaker 2: tight ends take a little while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, number seven, highest ranking, number two, lowest ranking, unranked

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Speaker 1: That's Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where to put him.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea either, right, I'd love.

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Speaker 2: To have him on my team and hated having him

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Speaker 2: he was, like, I don't know what the numbers were,

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Speaker 2: but accurate balls thrown his way were at a league low.

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Speaker 2: But you know, expectations are high, and hasn't scored all

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Speaker 2: I'm enamored with him, but I don't know where i'd

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Speaker 1: It's really difficult. And of course he and Firemuth were

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pits for Pat Friremouth, he would absolutely do it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but fire move has been the more consistent player to

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Speaker 2: No doubt. That's well said. I agree with one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the league would covet Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 2: and almost every situation he would put up better numbers

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping his book is very very far from written,

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Speaker 1: Well, he's only twenty two years old. I know he

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Speaker 2: Might boggle your mind, but like in the Dynasty community,

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Speaker 2: he's right there with Andrews as the tight end one

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, right, And it's you know, you

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Speaker 2: have to invest a lot to get them. But he

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Speaker 2: he might just never quite click.

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Speaker 1: Who knows number six on this list his highest ranking

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Speaker 1: number seven, twenty five years old. TJ. Hawkinson. I don't

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Speaker 2: No. I was sitting there thinking that too. I'm like

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Speaker 2: six is a little low. But if one voter didn't

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Speaker 2: even rank him in the top ten, I mean, when

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Speaker 2: we get the receivers, maybe they'll be Monday or whatever,

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Speaker 2: have aj Brown in the top ten. Well, its top

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Speaker 2: ten's loaded with great players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tight end. You've saw the list of

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Speaker 1: the others receiving votes.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, come out Aston knocks. He's not even close.

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Speaker 2: Who's number ten, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: He really tore it up with the Bikes too after

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Speaker 2: they traded for him.

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Speaker 1: You could make it if he does this season what

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Speaker 1: he did after joining the Vikings last year, and he

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Speaker 1: does that over the course of an entire season, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be number two next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I would just say top three, but I think

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Speaker 2: two is not insane.

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Speaker 1: He was on a pace for you know, one hundred

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that the fire models tries, the

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Speaker 1: The only problem that I have with George Kittle are

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Speaker 1: do that when we come back. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale. Lallie. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio.