1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdic with Ted Cruz, we can review 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you. And here's some big stories that 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: you may have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: First up, the polling numbers are out and we now 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: know a lot more about who voted for communism in 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: New York City. What does it mean for the rest 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: of the country. We'll break it down for you. Also, 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Senator Kennedy joined us to talk about his new book. 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Who did he write it for and what was the goal? 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: And finally, I just got back from Israel with an 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: incredible trip, and we'll give you those highlights. It's the 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: weekend review and it starts right now. All right, So 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: let's break down the election. It was a quote disaster. 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: The media was just thrilled of what happened on election night. 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Mandani is the one though, that I want to really 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: focus on for a second. He is a communist, He's 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: a proud communist. He went back to his core beliefs 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: in his victory speech, basically yelling at Donald Trump and 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: saying we are at communist city. The red apple literally 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: now is red apple of communism. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Breaking this down, this seems to be. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: A point where Democrats are actually almost doubling down on 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: this type of extremism in the party. I think this 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: is actually going to grow between now and the midterms. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: And I want your reaction to what we learned. 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Well, Comrade Mundami is the face of the Democrat Party now. 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: And I got to say the election results this week, 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: they were a disaster, that they were an absolute blowout. 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: What is striking as several things. Number one, turnout was 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: exceptionally high among the left wing base, and that's a 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: real warning sign for next year for the midterms. The 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: left showed up in massive numbers. They're pissed, they hate 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and that anger is dangerous, that anger is motivating. 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: And too many folks on the right, too many kind 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: of in the common sense middle stayed home. And I 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: will tell you if you look historically. All right, let's 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: go back to two thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight, 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: Barack Obama's elected. As a result, a lot of folks 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: on the right, you and me included, were really unhappy. 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: We didn't like Barack Obama's policies. We were pissed off. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: Twenty ten was a massive title wave year. It was 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: the Tea party wave and It was in large part 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: because those on the right were particularly energized and angry. 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: Fast forward to twenty twelve, twenty twelve, Barack Obama's re 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: elected president and the reaction again. Twenty fourteen was another 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: wave election, a huge election. We won nine Senate seats, 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: We retired Harry Reid as majority leader. We won the 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: biggest majority in the House since nineteen twenty eight And 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: it was because, again, those on the right were angry, 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: They were energized, they were contributing money, they volunteered, and 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: those on the left were complacent. By the way. Fast 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: forward to twenty eighteen. Donald Trump had just been elected 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. Twenty eighteen was a very good Democrat year. 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: We lost a bunch of seats. Why because the left 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: was really energized and folks on the right were a 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: little bit placement. This week's election day suggests that we're 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: in real danger of that happening again in twenty twenty 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: six that the left, I'll tell you on fundraising, the 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: left is out raising the right anywhere between three to 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: one and four to one. That is really really dangerous. 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: And the turnout, the turnout in Virginia, the left showed 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: up in much bigger numbers. The turnout in New Jersey, 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: the left showed up in much bigger numbers. The turnout 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: in New York City, the left turned out in much 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: bigger numbers. Now, Ben, I'll tell you one of the 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: most interesting do you know what demographic was dominated by 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: the radical left wing on election day? 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: This is shocking because you and I we geek out 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: on the political stuff and dat after elections, young people 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party were really ready to go vote. 71 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but let me be more precise, young women, and 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: let me give you some stats. In New York City, 73 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: among young women eighteen to twenty nine, eighty one percent, 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: eighty one percent voted for Comrade Mandani. In New Jersey 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty nine, Wow, In New Jersey, among young women, 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: eighty percent voted for Mikey Cheryl the Democrat in New Jersey. 77 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: Of young women in Virginia, seventy eight percent of young 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: women voted for Abigail Spanberger. It was dominant. And by 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: the way, to give you a comparison, because yes, young 80 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: people went left, but there was there was a big 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: gender gap. So young women in New York eighty one 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: percent for Mondamie. Young men sixty four percent for Mondammie, 83 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: so almost a twenty point gender gap. How about New 84 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: Jersey young women eighty percent for Mikey Cheryl fifty four 85 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: percent of young men, so a twenty five twenty six 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: percent gender gap in New Jersey. How about Virginia seventy 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: eight percent for Span Burger of young women, just fifty 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: six percent of young men in Virginia. So we saw 89 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: that this was a race where the single most overwhelming 90 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: demographic was young women, which was so overwhelmingly lopsided that 91 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: it helped drive the results on election day. 92 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: When you think about this, and then it goes back to, Okay, 93 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: what was the messaging that was connecting with young women 94 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: to have them come out in these numbers or was 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: it not so much of a message? And this is 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: part of the breakdown of trying to figure out what 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: you learned from election to make sure before the midterms 98 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: we can either we can course correct it. Or was 99 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: it just that the left and women in the Democratic 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Party were so motivated compared to conservative women. I call 101 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: it the Trump sump. You feel like your party's in power, 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: you feel like they're doing the things that you asked 103 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: them to do. In places Donald Trump is putting in complacency, 104 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: but you feel comfortable because you're like, we just want 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: an election. 106 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, things are great. Donald Trump's doing what he said 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: he was going to do. 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: So when you look at it, was it issue base 109 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: based on data that we've seen, or was it more 110 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: just the other side was so angry that Donald Trump 111 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: won and they wanted to win so badly to send 112 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: a middle finger to the president that they showed up 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: in these record numbers and they voted for their candidate. 114 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have that data yet. There will be 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: time to break that out, but we don't have it 116 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: right now. But I'll give you another aspect. In New 117 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: York City, so there was a massive difference based on 118 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: whether you were a longtime New Yorker or you were 119 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: new to the city. So if you're a New York 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: voter and you had been in New York City, you 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: lived in New York City less than five years, what 122 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: percent of the people who lived in New York City 123 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: less than five years do you think voted for Comrade 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Mundani got to be overwhelmingly high, eighty three percent. All right, 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: how about five to ten years, what do you think 126 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: five to ten years. 127 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: I would say it's probably still fairly high, but not 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: as high as that first. 129 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: Group seventy six percent. Okay, let's go ten years or more, 130 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: but not born in New York City. What do you 131 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: think the percentage. 132 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: Is above fifty percent? 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Fifty four? So it drops from seventy six five to 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: ten years to fifty four. How about I was born 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: in New York City, which, by the way, is forty 136 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: seven percent of the voters were born in New York City. 137 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: What do you think what percent of the vote do 138 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: you think Mondanni got a people born in New York City. 139 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess below fifty percent, thirty four percent. 140 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: Couloma got forty five percent. So Cuomo beat Mondanni by 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: eleven points among people born in New York, but among 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: people who lived in New York less than five years, 143 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: Mondanni beat him eighty three percent to fifteen percent, So 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: it is overwhelmingly Look, yeah, h clear was. 145 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: A cuil rowling cry from Mandanni, and he did this 146 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: in his campaigning. He did it, by the way, in 147 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: his victory speech. He said that New York City is 148 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: a city of immigrants. In other words, if you came 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: here recently, I'm your guy. That the establishment, the old school, 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the American citizen, You're not a priority in New York 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: City anymore. This reminds me an awful lot of what 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: we were talking about ten years ago in major cities 153 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: in the UK. We are seeing a lot of those 154 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: same type of results now in New York City. 155 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, there's also a significant educational differential. 156 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: All right, So if you're in New York and you 157 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: had an advanced degree, what percent of the vote do 158 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: you think Mandani. 159 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Got advanced degree? I would say maybe around fifty percent 160 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: or below. 161 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: Fifty seven percent. Advanced degree fifty seven percent. How about 162 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: bachelor's degree? 163 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm going to go maybe even lower. 164 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: Fifty seven percent. So advanced in bachelor's both tied a 165 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 3: fifty seven. How about associates degree? 166 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: I would say I would say. 167 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: Higher forty five percent. By the way, Cuomo got forty 168 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: eight So if you had an associates to degree, Mandanni lost. 169 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: How about some college so you don't have an associate's. 170 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: Degree, Mandannie, I would my gut is it way to 171 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: go even higher? But you're saying I'm wrong. 172 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: You're wrong some college Mandanni forty percent. Cuomo forty eight percent. 173 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: How about high school graduate. 174 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: See I would have thought high school graduated seventy plus 175 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: percent for Mondanni. 176 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: Nope, you're telling me that's wrong. 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: This is Mandanni. 178 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: This is breaking the normal model game of. 179 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: High school graduates. Mandanni got thirty nine percent, Cuoma got 180 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: forty seven percent, and finally no high school degree, so 181 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: didn't even graduate high school. 182 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean clearly based on the trend. 183 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: Now, the majority vote against Mandani that didn't have a 184 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: high school degree. 185 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: So no high school degree forty percent voted from Mandani, 186 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: forty nine percent for Cuoma. So Cuomo beat Mandanni by 187 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: nine points. So who elected comrade Mandani. It is the 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: smarty pants, college educated advanced degrees. It is the rich 189 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: who elected Mondani. By the way, working class, look, if 190 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: you got a ged, if you've got a high school degree, 191 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: They're like, we don't want a socialist. These people are nuts. 192 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: And it is the rich New Yorkers who Look, I'm 193 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: not an armchair psychologist. 194 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: But that is the elect This is the Sorouses. 195 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: It is the Sorosys. By the way, the same comrade 196 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: Mondonne who said we should have no billionaires also happily 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: tweeted out a picture. Actually, Alex Soros tweeted out a 198 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: picture so proud to be a New Yorker. The American 199 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: dream continues. Congrats Mayor with a picture of the two 200 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: of them together. This is the same guy who said 201 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: no billionaire as well, except for the billionaires that funded 202 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: the communist takeover of New York City. 203 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 204 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 205 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. I 206 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: know you got to run center soon, but I want 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: to ask you one other thing you want, And it 208 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: goes back to the book. When you write this book 209 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: and you sit down to do it, who did you 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: envision reading it? Is there some bigger purpose where you're like, 211 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: I want to write this for the future generation? 212 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: Was part of it? 213 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Just I wanted to just tell my story and how 214 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: I got to where I am today. 215 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: What was it? 216 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 4: Here's what I did. I sat down with a handheld 217 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: dictaphone at my kitchen table, and I started dictating, and 218 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: I dictated. I dictated I don't know how many hours, 219 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: hundreds of hours, and then I had it transcribed, and 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: then I put it together and then I had an 221 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: editor come in who looked at it and rearranged it, 222 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: and then I just started editing. And I was speaking 223 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 4: to the same person that Ted and I both speak 224 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 4: to when we do interviews, the average America. And I 225 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: tried to speak plainly. I don't try to muddy the 226 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 4: water to make it look deep. The American people don't 227 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: have time for that. And I wanted him to understand 228 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: that if you get mad, I can't help it. I 229 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: have the right to remain silent, but God did not 230 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 4: give me the ability. And some people are gonna like 231 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: it and some don't. But that's what the American people 232 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: expect from their politicians today. And it's one of the 233 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 4: reasons that that Senator Schumer, who Ted and I both know, 234 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: he's right now. He's got thirty percent approval rating, he's 235 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: got a sixty percent disapproval rating. The other ten percent 236 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: won't pause their video game to answer the poster's call. 237 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: And Chuck is polling, he's pulling right up there with 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: clubbing baby Seals. That's what I mean. 239 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: But to be fair, he's still above chlamydia. 240 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 4: He's still he's still both. It's large, it's close, but 241 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: because Chuck's been here so long. Ted, you know he's 242 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 4: been here so long. He sounds like Washington. 243 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: So I will say, it's interesting you and I have 244 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: a very similar process. It sounds like for writing a book, 245 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: because that's that's very much the books I've written, and 246 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: some of it is it maybe being a lawyer and 247 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 3: having written briefs that that that process of recording and 248 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: telling stories. In my books, I just try to tell 249 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: stories because that's how people came. 250 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: I've read a couple of books. There's a differ between 251 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: you and me, though I've written one book. Ted's written 252 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: about a squillion. Okay, but but it's hard. I mean, 253 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: it is a painful process. 254 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: You know, all right, you're a kid. When does the 255 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: idea of being a lawyer? What was it that made 256 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: you say, hey, I can do that. I want to 257 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: do that. 258 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: My dad was from a depression family in Oklahoma. He 259 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: got a degree, works the way through college and patrol 260 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: im engineering came to losing end of the work in 261 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: the wall fields married my mom. I have three brothers. 262 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: From day one, they drilled into us education education, education, 263 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 4: and it wasn't where you're going to go to college 264 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: or when you're going to go to college was where right, 265 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: and that was drilled in from day one. And I 266 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: enjoyed college. But I started thinking about law school then. 267 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: But but I stalled and restalled it as long as 268 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: I could. I mean, I spent four years in college, 269 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: and then I went three years in law school, and 270 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: then a clerk for a federal judge. And I tried 271 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: to get a Supreme Court clerkship. I didn't, you did, 272 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: uh uh? And then I said, well, I'm not ready 273 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: for the real world. I'm going back to school. I 274 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: went back and got another law of grid ye. And 275 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: then finally I had, you know, I had to. I 276 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: was out of money, you know, and I wanted to 277 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: eat and live indoors, so I didn't want to live 278 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: in a refrigerator box behind an outback. So I had 279 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: to go to work for a living. 280 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: And Ben, I know something that I know you don't know. 281 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: I know the name of his old law partner. 282 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: Who is that? 283 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: Who's that? 284 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: So he would practice his name obviously as John Kennedy 285 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: and his partner with Jose Kenseko, and he'd walk in it. 286 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: He'd be John Kennedy and Jose Story. That's they would double. 287 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: Take one of my best friends. I was in a 288 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: for Louisiana, a big offer six trading halliers, and one 289 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: of my good friends was jose Knseka And we'd go 290 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: to meetings. I'd say, I'm John Kenny, this is jose Kensekh. 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: We're here to see so and so, and they said, 292 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: they would say, you're here to see securities. 293 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: Story. 294 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: All right, So when did you get when did you 295 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: get the idea in your head you wanted to run 296 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: for office? Was this something like as a kid, you 297 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: always want to live. 298 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 4: I always thought about it, but I was practicing all 299 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: earning a good living. Louisiana politics was rough, I mean 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: it was rough. He was under Governor Edwin the Edwards. 301 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't part of his clique. 302 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: Who has my favorite political bumper sticker? 303 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: Ever? Yep? 304 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: And you know exactly where I'm going? 305 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: Do you know? 306 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: Do you know this? Ben? I don't know. 307 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: If you know this, I do not. 308 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: So Edwin Edwards is running for governor against David Duke. Now, 309 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: David Duke was the former Grand Grand Wizard of the KKK. 310 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah grand words. 311 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: But Edwin Edwards was as corrupt, He was as crooked 312 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: as the dog's hind legs. See, I'm trying to do 313 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: this to keep up with John pretty good ted and 314 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: and everyone knew he was corrupt, and so Edwin Edwards 315 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: bumper sticker said vote for the crook, it matters. And 316 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: if you're running against a kleansman, that was a winning slogan. 317 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: And then you know what, he was indicted and convicted 318 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: of embezzlement or fraud. 319 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: When the economy was doing well, Abusian, I mean, this 320 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: was having a colorful governor was all fun and games. 321 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: He was. He was a big he's very promiscuous. He 322 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: used to say, uh, I give they make How did 323 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: he put it? When I give blood? They usually to 324 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: make Viagara? That was at I always thought that was 325 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: a pretty good and and there's a bump that's. 326 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: The line they would have used about strom Thurmon too. 327 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: You and I didn't serve with strom Thurman, but by 328 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: all accounts, that would have described him accurately. 329 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: And he was running for governor. I think it's the 330 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: third time, and he was way ahead of the polls. 331 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 4: He was running against incumbent and the press asking us, 332 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: they said, you're gonna win this race, and he said, well, 333 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: I put it this way. The only way I could 334 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 4: lose this race, and the last week is if I'm 335 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: caught in bed with a live girl or a dead boy. 336 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: And I thought that was pretty clever. But eventually his 337 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: past caught up to him and we elected a reform 338 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: governor named Buddy Romer, and I'd supported him. He asked 339 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: me to leave my practice come to Baton Rouge, and 340 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: I liked it. I was his legal counsel and I stayed. 341 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: And then I ran for office and got elected, and 342 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: I ran for the Senate three times. Took me three 343 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 4: times to get here, and I thought they left me 344 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: for dead for a few times. Politically, I switched parties 345 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: because the Democrat I couldn't. I just couldn't be a 346 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: Democrat anymore. And they all got mad at me, and 347 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: they tried to hurt me. But the mistake they made, 348 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna let me live. They never should have letting 349 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: me live it. So I wanted on the third time, 350 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: and here we are. We're having fun, all right. 351 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: Biggest surprises when you get to the Senate. Biggest surprise 352 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: upside and biggest surprise downside. 353 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: Biggest surprise upside. You probably saw this. I came in 354 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: wanting to gallop you can't gallop in the Senate. You 355 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 4: have to inch along, and at first that frustrated me. 356 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 4: It still does, but it's not altogether bad because after 357 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: a while you realize the senator's job is not just 358 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: to advance good ideas, it's to kill bad ideas, and 359 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: sometimes killing the bad ideas is more important than advancing 360 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: the good ideas. That has been my biggest transformation in 361 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: the Senate. But it's frustrating Senator McConnell, who's your friend 362 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: and mine. But Mitch was the arding leader, and I 363 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: wouldn't used to taking orders from another politician. And Mitch 364 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: and I butted heads a few times. She butted heads 365 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 4: with you. Oh, Mitch liked to run it from the 366 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: top down, and I thought, I remember you and I talked. 367 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 4: When we passed President Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. 368 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: We passed it through reconciliation, and Ted was an advocate 369 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: of doing a second bill, yep, And it just took 370 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: a majority vote no Democrats, and I'm backed him and 371 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: Mitch wouldn't do it, and we left so much good 372 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 4: policy on the take. 373 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: It remains the most politically indefensible decision I've ever. 374 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: Seen, and I hope we don't do it under Trump's 375 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: second term. 376 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: Actually, John brought that up at lunch today, made that argument, 377 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: and it's clearly. Look, it is our best avenue to 378 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: win victories, and we should be focused on winning the 379 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: Now that man said, we got a lot done in 380 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: that one big bore. 381 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: Sure, but we get a second bite. 382 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: At the act exactly, and a third if we want. 383 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: It, and why not take it? Ye, why not take it? 384 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 4: And we don't have to get we don't have to 385 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: get Democratic votes. Yep, Because I'm I'm I'm you know, 386 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: I think I want to think the best of people, 387 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 4: but I just think it's gonna be hard to negotiate 388 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: anything with the Democrats from here on now. 389 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: They just hate Trump. They're they're so extreme right now. 390 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm just blinded by by their their passion. 391 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 392 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Senator, I'm gonna. I'm afraid of hitman from Louisiana. Your 393 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: staff's telling me we're supposed to wrap with you a 394 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: few minutes ago. So I want to hold up the 395 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: book again. 396 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: Sons, all right, so let me tell everyone again. Book 397 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: is How to Test Negative for Stupid and Why Washington 398 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: Never Will It is by John Kennedy, not John F. Kennedy, 399 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: But John Kennedy, the great United States Senator. The book 400 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: is funny, it is interesting. It gives you stories behind 401 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 3: the scenes of what's going on in the US Senate 402 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: John Kenny he rats out all his colleagues. He makes 403 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: them embarrassed. He makes them curl up, curl up. Chuck 404 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: Schumer curled up in a ball in the closet and 405 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: cried like a little girl. When when when John Kennedy 406 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: wrote this book. So you need to go to Amazon 407 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: and buy it. And I will say as I said before, 408 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: John Kennedy is easily one of my favorite colleagues. He 409 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: is by monny as hell, and he is smart as hell. 410 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize this man is dangerous 411 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: and has you know he's an Oxford educated lawyer and 412 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: and with a Southern accent, particularly Yankees, underestimated and be like, 413 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: all right, he's got a Southern accent. He can't be 414 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: all that bright. 415 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: You can't accuse me of being self aware, not being 416 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: self aware. I'm fully aware that my voice scares small children, 417 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: it sets off carl arms. But it's my voice. But 418 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: thank you for having me ed, Thank you, Ben, And. 419 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna close. I'm gonna close with my favorite kennedyism, 420 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: which was in a Judiciary committee hearing. John Kennedy leaned 421 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: forward into the microphone and he said, Christmas tree ornaments 422 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: and Jeffrey Epstein, two things you know didn't hang themselves. 423 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: I love it. 424 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: I was sitting there going, wait, this is at an 425 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: open hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Did he really 426 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: say that it was? 427 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 4: I did? It was true. I'd read that joke somewhere. 428 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: It seemed like a good idea at the time. 429 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: As before, If you want to hear the rest of 430 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 431 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 432 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 433 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: story number three of the week. 434 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: You may have missed. 435 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: So, Ben, have you been to Israel before? Is this 436 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: first trip? 437 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: This is my pilgrimage very first time ever. 438 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: Well, it is amazing. I've been a number of times 439 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: to Israel and it is a breathtaking place. It is 440 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 3: a place all of history converges on. It is the 441 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: birthplace of Christianity, is the birthplace of Judaism. In Israel 442 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: and Jerusalem, you walk down roads the city of David, 443 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: which is this underground archaeological excavation under Jerusalem. You walk 444 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: down the road from from the Pool of Shiloh to 445 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: the old Temple where Jesus most certainly walked, and you 446 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 3: walk along it and there are platforms that a street 447 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: preacher and itinerant preacher would stand and preach on it. 448 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: And you stand. I've stood on those platforms, and it 449 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: takes your breath away that Jesus Christ almost certainly stood 450 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: on this particular piece of stone addressing the crowd of 451 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: the Israelites who were there in Jerusalem. The Sea of Galilee. 452 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: You look at you imagine Jesus walking up to Peter, 453 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: walking up to fishermen and saying, follow me, and let 454 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: me make you fishers of men and not just fishermen. 455 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: And it is. It's a beautiful place. It is a 456 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: profound place. So tell me when did you arrive and 457 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: what have you done on the ground at Israel. 458 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: So arrived on on Monday after delayed flight missed missed 459 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: a flight because of actually the shutdown is what we're 460 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: told with And then we had a time out with 461 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: with with the with the air traffic controllers and also 462 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: the crew on the plane. So we sat on the 463 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: tarmac for about five hours in Houston and then they 464 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: said you got to goetut the plane. 465 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: We've lost our crew because of the rules. Uh. 466 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: And this is a TSA And it was at the 467 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: very beginning of kind of the bread part of a broader. 468 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: Group or like what what's the reason for going to Israel. 469 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was asked to come over from the 470 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Israeli government and also came with the CEO of i 471 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: f c J, the International Fellowship of Christian Jews. 472 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 473 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: There is a a Christian leadership conference happening here as 474 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: well at the same time that is UH. It is 475 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: one that's been postponed because of the war. And so 476 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: I was asked to speak at that. 477 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 478 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: This is a conference where BB is speaking, where you 479 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: have the Mayor of Jerusalem is speaking, you have the 480 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: US ambassador Mi Kacabee as well, and it is bringing 481 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: Christians together. 482 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: Back to the Holy Land. 483 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: But then what also has happens They've set up these 484 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: incredible moments and tours where I've been able to meet 485 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: with some of the victims of the war and go 486 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: and see where the war is hanging placed. So yesterday 487 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: We actually went to the border with Syria and with 488 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: Lebanon and went literally to where we could see Hesblah 489 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: looking at us. 490 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: And we met with the parents of the kids who 491 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: were killed on the soccer field. Tell us about that. 492 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so last night I have and I will try 493 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: not to get emotional, but it's hard not to. I 494 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: was asked to come and to meet with the families, 495 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: some of the families who children. There was twelve children 496 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: that were killed while playing soccer on a soccer field. 497 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: It made international news. We covered it on this show. 498 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: And they asked me if I would meet with the 499 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: families and hear the family stories. And I was there 500 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: and the parents were talking of This was one of 501 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: the little girls you can see who died, and her 502 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: mother was the first one to speak, and she was 503 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: the age of the kids wanted to tell the story. 504 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: They were all different ages. They were very young to 505 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a seventeen year old if I remember correctly. Some of 506 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: it was through translation, but you can kind of see 507 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: the different ages here. Some of them are obviously most 508 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: were younger, but you can see there someone's a little 509 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: bit older and junior high. You can see that's one 510 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: of the oldest kids there and and that was you know, 511 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: it's it's incredible. But we sat there and we were 512 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: hearing their stories, these kids, and at the very end, 513 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: they said they'd like to present me with things. I 514 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: didn't know they were going to do this, and I 515 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: put the picture of on social media, but the mother 516 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: of this young girl said that they wanted to give 517 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: me something. And I didn't see the ball before they 518 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: brought it out. But these pictures on this ball, so 519 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: people understand their stickers, they're handmade. And they said they 520 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you for standing up for their 521 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: kids and for telling their story to the world, because 522 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: they they want people to understand what it's like to 523 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: live in Israel and and what was taken from them. 524 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: Uh from By the way, these were children that were 525 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: doing nothing. They were they were playing on a soccer field. 526 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: There were being kids and suddenly Hesbala rocket came over 527 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: and killed them all. 528 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and it was a the way that they 529 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: described it was they didn't care who they killed. There 530 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: was there was a lot of media spend that well, 531 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: this this soccer field maybe wasn't directly target Hesbla doesn't 532 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: care who they killed. 533 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: They just want to kill Jews. 534 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: Northern Israel, Southern Israel. Where the where's the kvotes You went. 535 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: To tip the tip of northern on the opposite side 536 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: of where the attack happened. The initial attack hap in 537 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: October the Okay border with Lebedon and and Hesbelah. So 538 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the map, this would be in 539 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: Syria Hesbla at the at the northern point. And they 540 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: started us there because they said they wanted us to 541 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: understand that. 542 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: The goal, by the way, for folks from both sides. 543 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: For folks at home to understand. So Israel is a 544 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: very small nation. It's about the size of the state 545 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: of New Jersey. Where October seventh happened was in the 546 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: southern part of Israel. It's right by the Gaza Strip. 547 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: The Gaza Strip is along the Mediterranean in the southern part, 548 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: and Hamas, which is the terrorist major terrorist organization in 549 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: the Gaza Strip, entered into southern Israel and murdered over 550 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: twelve hundred Israelis, raped women and little girls, took over 551 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 3: two hundred Israelis hostage. It was also one of the 552 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: worst American terrorist attacks ever, as we saw dozens of 553 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: Americans murdered, dozens of Americans taken hostage. Now northern Israel, 554 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: which is up by Lebanon and Syria, what you have 555 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: up there is hesbel A. Hesbel As a different terrorist organization. 556 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: Both Hesbela and Hamas their patron is Iran, and Iran 557 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: funds over ninety percent of Hamasa's budget. Iran funds over 558 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: ninety percent of Hesbela's budget. When October seventh first erupted, 559 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: Israel quite rightly declared we are going to utterly destroy Hamas. 560 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: There was an interesting period that extended for weeks and 561 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: then even a couple of months where it wasn't clear 562 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: if Hamas would be or rather Hesbela would be drawn 563 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 3: into this. Hamas was the restaurant on October seventh, and 564 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: Hesbela had the opportunity just to shut up and not engage, 565 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: and then Hesbela pretty quickly decided, nope, we want to 566 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: raise our hand, we want to engage, and began just 567 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: just firing rockets, a massive barrage of rockston in northern Israel, 568 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: thousands and the kids percent. 569 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: I was told yesterday by the US government about sixty 570 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: percent of all the rockets on hand that Hesbla had 571 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: in their Arsenal were shot during this war. 572 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: Repeat that, that's a powerful statement. 573 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: Sixty percent. 574 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: And as we had our briefing from the Israeli government, 575 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: we actually went to this neighborhood, this kibbutz, and in 576 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: this neighborhood, their sin for being targeted by Hesbla was 577 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: it that they farm pink lady apples that we eat 578 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: in the United States of America. 579 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, much of northern Israel was evacuated 580 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: because the rocket attacks were so intense that the Israelis 581 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: couldn't live there anymore, because you couldn't go into your 582 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: own home without risk of rock blowing it up. And 583 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: so the amazing thing is Hesbela literally volunteered and said, hey, 584 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: we want to be part of this. And then the 585 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: Israelis carried out the Pager Attack, which remains one of 586 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: the most extraordinardaried military and intelligence operations I think the 587 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: world has ever seen. Where I mean, I've joked, but 588 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: this is not a joke. If you wrote the Pager 589 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: Attack as a script to a movie, nobody in Hollywood 590 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: would buy it. If you wrote it as a Jason 591 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: Bourne movie, they said, this is ridiculous. You're telling me 592 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: Israel creates a shell company in Hong Kong, builds pass 593 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: years in advance, makes them heavy duty, kind of serious, 594 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: hardcore pagers and in beds where the battery would be 595 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: a tiny little explosive. Then gets this shell company in 596 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: Hong Kong to sell the pagers to Hesbela, Like, how 597 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 3: the hell do you do that? I don't know how 598 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: you sell pagers to Hesbela, but the Masad does. Israel does, 599 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: sells them to Hesbela, and then this remains the single 600 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: most targeted military and intelligence attack I think in history, 601 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: because it was Hesbela leadership that decided, Okay, who is 602 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: it that gets these pagers? I'm going to give it 603 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 3: to every crazy ass terrorist we have in lemanon the 604 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: people that I want to be able to page and say, hey, 605 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: would you go blow up a bus, would you go 606 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: blow up at a mall? Would you go murder children? 607 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: Take this pager? And then Israel, in a simultaneous moment, 608 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: detonated all the pagers and took out every person that 609 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: was injured, every person that was killed, with very minor 610 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: exceptions of someone who was really close to a terrorist. 611 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: They were personally selected by the leaders of Hesbela. Hesbela 612 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: decided which terrorists died. And by the way, within a 613 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: day or two there was a second operation where Hesbela 614 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: was using walkie talkies. 615 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: Those blew up and I say traded yeah as well. Yeah. 616 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: By the end of it, I think every Hesbela terrorists, 617 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: every Hamas terrorists, every Iran ir GC terrorists, like every 618 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 3: time a phone rang, they jumped. It was extraordinary and 619 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: it was a response to so what Hesbela literally volunteered 620 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: and said, we want to be decimated as bad as 621 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: as Hamas, and Israel said, well, happy to oblige. 622 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go back to this neighborhood. And as 623 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: we went into this neighborhood which the people have a 624 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: lot of them have still not returned. Some of the 625 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: farmers are coming there to farm. But Hesbela knew the 626 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: houses that they were blowing up in this neighborhood were farmers. 627 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: They knew that they were families, and what they did 628 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: was to justify their attacks. Early on was when the 629 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: people had fled, the Israeli military would take back in 630 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: to the husband of the home to go get some 631 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: of their belongings before they would flee again. And they 632 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: justified the military walking in the house is the reason 633 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: to blow the house up. And so I met with 634 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: a farmer who had three children the exact same age 635 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: as my kids. Wow, and he was showing us his neighborhood, 636 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: and he was talking about how I had to come 637 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: back to tend the fields because this is my home. 638 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: And I was literally under rocket barrage and would come 639 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: to work knowing that Hesbelah was targeting the houses. And 640 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: so finally after a few days that the homeowners said 641 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: to the military, don't go back into my house, because 642 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 1: as soon as you go in there, they blow up 643 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: my home and everything is destroy We went into a home. 644 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: The books of the children were still there, the stove 645 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: was still there the way it was at that morning. 646 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: The one of the homeowners offered me a piece of 647 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: a broken pot of their home and a burner of 648 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: the stove and said take it back, and a piece 649 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: of their tile in their children's bathroom. I'll put it 650 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: on my desk for the rest of my life. But 651 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: to hear them talk about the brutality of Hesbla, knowing 652 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: that you're blowing up a farmer's home who has never 653 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: bothered you in your entire life for sport. It was 654 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: just for sport at that point. It was even killing 655 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: a person they knew that they were Yeah, just pure 656 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: sport and hatred, Like we're going to blow up your 657 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: neighborhood because you are Jewish. We know you're not there, 658 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: we know you have fled, but we want you to 659 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: come back to destruction in ruins. 660 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: And so you've been in northern Israel, in Tel Aviv? 661 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: Have you been in Jerusalem? Where else have you been 662 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: been in? 663 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: So? 664 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Been in Tel Aviv as well, which is an incredible city. 665 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much it's like New York. 666 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: City or a maze. Yeah, it's a very modern nightlife city. 667 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: But one other thing I want to mention about this 668 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: trip so far is I met with the mother of 669 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: one of the hostages that was taken that became unfortunately, 670 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: she became famous. If you remember the videos that came out, 671 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: there is a girl that's been separated from her boyfriend. 672 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: She is in between two terrafts on a motorcycle and 673 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: she's reaching out and screaming for her boyfriend who is 674 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: being held with his arms and minds back by two 675 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: terrats and they're separating them and that video just went 676 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: viral early on in the moments after he was held 677 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: underground for two years without seeing sunlight and was starved. 678 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: He was returned. They just re reunited. You may have 679 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: seen that video of them in the hospital finally getting 680 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: to see each other again and hugging and falling backwards 681 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: as a hug on the hospital bed, and the mother 682 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: was telling the story of her son and the trauma, 683 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: the way that they were mentally tortured and lied to, 684 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: that there was destruction of all of Israel been destroyed, 685 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: that the that there were told that their loved ones 686 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: had been killed, their family members had been murdered, that 687 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: no one had survived, that they were going to die, 688 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: that they were going to dig their own grapes. Some 689 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: of them did to to see the torment. And I 690 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things I will forever remember 691 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: from this trip, and I'm grateful for it. Is when 692 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: we talk about what this is like, the psychological warfare 693 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: center and the evil of Hamas and Hezbelah has no ends, 694 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: whether it's blowing up farmers' homes for sport, whether it 695 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: is killing children, is that the soccer ball and seeing 696 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: these kids who were their only crime was being Jewish 697 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: and playing sports. 698 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: That's it look soci chill. 699 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: Civilians are the embodiment of evil, and sadly we live 700 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 3: in a world where evil is plentiful. 701 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 702 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: So today I'm going to be leaving with the government 703 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: and going down to the side of the attack at 704 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: the festival, and I'm going to be meeting with some 705 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: of the hostages there. I'm going to hopefully tell those 706 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: stories as well in one of our next episodes, because 707 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: it's just telling their stories and letting people understand what 708 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: happened that day, and going to go to the kibbutz 709 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: that were attacked there and tour the homes of the 710 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: children that were murdered in their cribs. I'm going to 711 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: meet with the families of the elderly that were killed, 712 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: including Holocaust survivors. I met with some Holocaust survivors that 713 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: we had to are homeless in essence and had to 714 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: move to Jerusalem to survive the war. I met with 715 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: them as well. Incredible stories. So we'll have more of that, 716 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: I promise you coming up in other episodes. But I 717 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: want to say to everyone that is listening, if you 718 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: are a person of faith, the pilgrimage to come here 719 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: and to see, I think the hope of our faith 720 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: in Christianity, to walk where Jesus walked, to walk where 721 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: he carried the cross. 722 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 2: I did that the first day I was here. Uh. 723 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: And to be able to just see the Sea of 724 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: Galilee and witness where so much of our biblical eighty 725 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: percent of the biblical history. 726 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: Uh. 727 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: And in the in the Bible with Jesus, I got 728 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: to witness from sending him one. 729 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 3: Place one It's amazing to see. 730 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: And it spread to the war. 731 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: Where they believe Jesus was crucified, where they believe it 732 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: was buried, and and and and where he rose again 733 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 3: in heaven. 734 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 2: I got to go to the tom Yeah. 735 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean standing in the tomb, I look as 736 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: a believer, it takes your breath away. 737 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: The the the as I described it to family in 738 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: a text, I said, the level of feeling, I would 739 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: say the Holy Spirit in these places is something I've 740 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: never felt before. 741 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: Uh. 742 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: The second closest I've ever spelt to that type of 743 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: spiritual gathering of Christians was honestly, at Charlie Kirk's memorial 744 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: and and. 745 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: And it was incredible. 746 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: Two of the biggest spiritual moments in my life have 747 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 1: happened in the last sixty days, both in a weird 748 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: way around tragedy, which also is why I think it's 749 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: incredible when you're a Christian that you know that. 750 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: God is still a God of hope. 751 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: Amen as always, thank you for listening to Verdict with 752 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with you don't forget to 753 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: deal with my podcast, and you can listen to my 754 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: podcast every other day you're not listening to Verdict or 755 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: each day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love 756 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: to have you as a listener to again the Ben 757 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: Ferguson podcasts, and we will see you back here on 758 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: Monday morning.