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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. It is a blustery Monday here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a wendy walk on in here.

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Speaker 3: What it's always a windy walker, but there's wendy everywhere

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Speaker 3: else around here today as well. I don't know what's

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Speaker 3: blowing up from where.

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Speaker 1: But it's just marching in the Burg. I assume it is.

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Speaker 3: Marching into the Burg and we are marching. Well, it's

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Speaker 3: March twenty fourth, so we're getting closer.

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Speaker 1: And closer, thirty days away something like that.

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Speaker 3: Something like that draft is right around the corner, right

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Speaker 3: around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Which means there's this lull before the storm too. A

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Speaker 1: little bit, yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So I did a little research over the weekend and

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Speaker 3: some I did some research as well on in the

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Speaker 3: comment section on YouTube and looking into what we talked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is interesting to me with how difficult.

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Speaker 3: It is to replace a true Hall of Fame franchise

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Speaker 3: legend quarterback, and so I looked up, the guy either

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Speaker 3: has to be in the Hall of Fame already or

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Speaker 3: is going to be in the Hall of Fame. So

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Speaker 3: like Breeze and Brady qualify, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: didn't do like Eli Manning or they didn't get in

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Speaker 3: first try, So it's not a slam dunk, right. I

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Speaker 3: also went two thousand and on basically.

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Speaker 1: Because part Star and Brad John.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I did that because, for example, when the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers moved on from from Joe Montana, they won,

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Speaker 3: it was pre free agency. Yeah, and so Steve Young

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Speaker 3: was on their roster and he wasn't He wasn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: You could sit on Steve Young for five years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to their credit though, they sent a Bucks

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Speaker 1: And you probably couldn't couldn't.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't do that today They'd both be fifty million

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Speaker 1: I would just say free agency might be my line

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Speaker 3: I looked at it that way, and I thought, you know, that's.

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Speaker 1: I forget what year it started.

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Speaker 3: Okay, my first year covering the league was the first

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Speaker 3: the Broncos post John Elway.

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Speaker 3: Elway wouldn't talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Maddox was drafted when matt When Elway retired, Maddox wasn't.

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Speaker 3: There to The replacement was Brian Greasy.

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Speaker 1: how these teams prepared. At least they had the idea

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Speaker 1: And he wasn't. I think he's one of the most

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Speaker 1: underrated players in NFL history, not because of those two,

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Speaker 1: because he went to three with I bet these two

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Speaker 1: on that Lway team. People are like the three Amigos.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Bok, name the three Amigos. They're not three amigos.

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Speaker 1: It was not for Lway, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So six and ten, eleven and five, eight eight.

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Speaker 3: Shanahan was still the head coach section ten, eleven and five,

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Speaker 3: traded beat the Colts in overtime in two thousand. Wow,

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Speaker 3: they haven't won a playoff game since since, right, I

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the Miami freaking Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: The cornerstone right even before Lway, Yeah, before Marina, they.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers post Steve Young. Okay, now I

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Speaker 1: I said, then there's a lot of barren time.

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Speaker 3: Brett Favre in Green Bay. Oh hands to Rogers six

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Speaker 1: Okay, but Rogers was not an instant success. No, he

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, that was that was the part to put

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Speaker 3: And the reason I only did three seasons with these

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Speaker 1: Oh Steelers three years yeaheah, you have three years to.

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Speaker 3: The Broncos post Peyton Manning. I didn't include. I didn't

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Speaker 3: The Patriots post Brady, this is bad. Seven and nine,

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Speaker 3: three years. The last couple of years have been really bad. Really,

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Speaker 3: and you had to and they were really good teams too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that the two thousand and one Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: To They started four different guys at quarterback that year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen touchdown passes, twenty one interceptions, Like I.

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Speaker 1: Urge people to go check out, like the Falcons after

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Speaker 3: And I get it. I mean, you're trying to win

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Yeah, you know, there is no just so happened

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Speaker 3: It actually worked out semi well for them, not in

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Speaker 3: You have the generational talent right right that anyone would

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Speaker 3: That was the two thousand and twelve draft.

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Speaker 1: You may ended up with luck again the next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But so when people talk about the Steelers A having

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and he had it really good for a while.

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Speaker 3: This is what it's like when you don't have that

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just kind of how the world works.

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Speaker 1: chief Now, when the Patriots fell off a cliff, no

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Speaker 1: one's boohooing about that. You know, Like Mahomes he's thirty now, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm good. Probably gonna go bad.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that the Steelers haven't done yet, and

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Speaker 1: We love this dude. We're gonna put all of our

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Speaker 3: They weren't the forty nine ers and said we're going

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Speaker 1: No, and I don't think it'll happen this year. No,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's quarterbacks that they really liked

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Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a lot of that kind of stuff too.

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Speaker 1: The Packers approach is just so weird, like the Colts

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Speaker 1: That's the this year.

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Speaker 3: If you decide, okay, we're gonna try this, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Right, we're gonna try this approach this year. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: I think they're head above the rest of their division

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Speaker 3: Well, it's hard with the way the contracts are now

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Speaker 1: They didn't just let them walk for nothing. But that

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, if Ben had decided, like I want to go

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Speaker 3: If he didn't have the elbow injury, and after the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty season says, well, I want to go play

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. Okay, he's got value, maybe you could trade him.

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Speaker 3: It's to the Jets, right, But coming off that, you know,

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Speaker 3: the elbow injury, you're not going to trade Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 3: for a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right, that doesn't make you better. And he's

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Speaker 1: older and he's expensive, and you know who's trading for

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Speaker 1: a guy come off elbow injury at his age?

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Speaker 3: He won, you know, he won two Super Bowls with

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Speaker 3: the guy. There is some loyalty there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they are human beings. It's not

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Speaker 1: fantasy football, right. And you have a locker room that's

451
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Speaker 1: played with this dude and won a lot, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna give me a third round pick and not him?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what we're going to try to win

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Speaker 1: with us here. Yeah. It's tough, it is tough.

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Speaker 3: It's again, it's it's it's no man's land in football. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: when you don't have the franchise quarterback doesn't mean you

457
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Speaker 3: can't still win, sure, but it is more difficult.

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Speaker 1: I bet if you wasn't even back further. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like obviously, the Steelers past Bradshaw's not much better. It's

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Speaker 1: not better worse. I mean, Steelers post Ben is better

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Speaker 1: than Steelers post Bradshaw. Yeah, I mean clearly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the Steelers post Bradshaw had a plan draft.

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Speaker 3: They drafted Mark Malone in the first round, first.

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Speaker 1: Round, right just around on a super Bowl type team

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Speaker 1: and not do anything.

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Speaker 3: He had the longest touchdown reception wide receiver. Yeah, playing

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Speaker 3: wide receiver because he was at you know, that kind

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Speaker 3: of athlete.

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Speaker 1: I wonder those seventy teams though, like post Well Grease,

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Speaker 1: he kind of went to Marino post Stabler couldn't have

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Speaker 1: been It was actually pretty good. Stabler would have been

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Speaker 1: good because they had Plunket and those guys.

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Speaker 3: You could Yeah, Jim Plunket was the number one overall

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Speaker 3: pick in the in the draft.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is back to the original point.

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Speaker 3: You could stash a guy, and you know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: went to Danny White. Well, Danny White had been on

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Speaker 3: their roster back up and you know, yeah, because you

479
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Speaker 3: just could and the.

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Speaker 1: Key back to the original point though, like mil One's

481
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Speaker 1: taken Art Shell and Gene Upshaw off the Raiders because

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Speaker 1: Stabler retired, right because there's no cap and there's no

483
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Speaker 1: you know, he's still those guy were a great team.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't move, they couldn't go anywhere else, no, right,

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Speaker 3: which is why I didn't even look at that era.

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Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense. I mean, it happens that the

487
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Speaker 1: Steelers lost their super Steelers kind of the same time

488
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Speaker 1: Bradshaw did. But with all respect to Terry, if he hangs,

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Speaker 1: if he gets hurt in seventy eight or seventy nine

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Speaker 1: and you stick somebody else in there, Danny White, they're

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Speaker 1: probably a contentment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're they're are gonna be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be good, right yeah, right, It's not like

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Speaker 1: so there's not a one hundred million dollars Mahomes investment.

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Speaker 3: They one game to right crew check, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, right right, I mean they were gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, let's get at break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back

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Speaker 3: with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back on Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt Pro Football Focus is looking here

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Speaker 3: every team's best trade asset ahead of the time.

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Speaker 1: You get that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some names on there that are sort of interesting.

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Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to roll through this and see. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if there would be anybody that might pick your interest.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's a couple that they're just reaching

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Speaker 1: them really you get on their right, you know.

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Speaker 3: For the Cardinals it's Jonan Williams.

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Speaker 1: I think they could draft their line. He's a free

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Speaker 1: agent after this year too. He doesn't interest me, but

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Speaker 1: some team should. Twenty seven yea, yeah, yeah, for twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Falcons, it's Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to bring up. My vote would

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Speaker 1: be no, don't get me wrong, but there's an obvious

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith connection. He's had injuries. What's weird about Pitts

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Speaker 1: is and Bowers doesn't have this problem. But teams now

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Speaker 1: just look at Pitts like he's a wide receiver, which

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Speaker 1: is what he is. Which is what he is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so whenever they do well eleven personnel, twelve personnel, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be in this formation. They just count him

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Speaker 1: as a wide out and compared to wide outs. He's

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Speaker 1: big and he can run, but he's not just Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna beat you without routes. He's not Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, you have to have

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Speaker 1: some tight end to get the matchups against linebackers and

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Speaker 1: safeties everybody wants. If they just put you know, Patrick

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Speaker 1: Stain on you, well, he's not getting open. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: if they do move him though.

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Speaker 3: For the Ravens it's a Dafeoway see up after this year,

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 1: So, Yeah, that would make some sense. I would think

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Speaker 1: that would be if you draft. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: what he's worth. Yeah, he played pretty well last year.

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Speaker 1: I think he's coming around, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they even moved him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's's twenty six years old. They're going to make

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Speaker 3: a decision on him. They don't have the other dudes

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Speaker 3: are getting a little older.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a potential first round pick for them

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Speaker 1: as an edge guy.

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Speaker 3: Uh. For the Bills, well, they just kind of re

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Speaker 3: upped his contract here, Matt Mulano. They're not going to

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Speaker 3: trade him.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't even know who on that. There must

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Speaker 1: not be any good candidates on that.

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Speaker 3: An offensive lineman or something, or a defensive line you

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Speaker 3: can move. But maybe for the Panthers, it's interior offensive

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Speaker 3: lineman Caid May's.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get a whole lot for Cad May and

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 3: For the Bears, it's Andrew Billings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean a different style defense. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: a nose, it's been around the block. Basically, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot for him. No.

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Speaker 3: For the Bengals, it's obviously Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: You think he goes or not?

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Speaker 3: No, you think they just waited out on him and

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Speaker 3: make a mad and yeah, eventually end up signing him

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Speaker 3: to some.

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Speaker 1: Kind of deal. Yeah, I mean that's the best chance.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any cap space, but no, they don't.

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Speaker 1: But he also does not have any leverage. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's under contract for this year. Yeah, he could sit out.

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Speaker 1: He could, he could.

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Speaker 3: Come back in Week eleven or whatever week it is

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Speaker 3: and play out the string for the Browns. It's Greg

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Speaker 3: Newsome and.

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Speaker 1: He's up after this year, and they just have a

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Speaker 1: lot of future cap issues. If they're not going to

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Speaker 1: resign resign him, I mean, I think he might get

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Speaker 1: something in return. He's been miscast a little bit, forced

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Speaker 1: to play a lot of slot, yeah, because they kind

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Speaker 1: of have three outside dudes. But he's done it well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's good play.

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Speaker 3: He hits a free agent market, he'll make money for

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Michaeh Parsons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it will either. It's just he's gonna want

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Speaker 1: the most money of any of these dudes. He's want

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Speaker 1: more than Chase, more than Garrett, which if I was

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Speaker 1: his agent, I have a really strong case I deserve it. Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how. I hate to say this because

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Speaker 1: every team's different, but they don't seem super interested in

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Speaker 1: winning lately. I mean, they don't they invest in their.

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Speaker 3: Own whether there's no pressure on the GM at all.

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Speaker 1: No, right, because he owns a team and they make

592
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Speaker 1: more money than any team in the league, and why

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Speaker 1: change what they're doing. But they'd be a really frustrating

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Speaker 1: team to root for right now.

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Speaker 3: This next guy would be someone I would be interested

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Speaker 3: in if I were the Steelers. Denver Bronco's John Franklin Myers.

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Speaker 1: Ah quality veteran, knows what he's going to get. They're

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Speaker 1: kind of in it to win it, though. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Denver is in a different place than they

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Speaker 1: were a year ago, like when they were talking about it.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to extend him though.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to extend them. Zach Allen's really good.

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Speaker 1: They'll probably draft. They don't have a ton of needs either.

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Speaker 1: They should draft something in this D line pool. It'd

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Speaker 1: be a good sealer though. Yeah. How old maybe even

606
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Speaker 1: little you see here?

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Speaker 3: Uh he is twenty eight?

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, it'd be useful. I mean rotational piece. Yeah,

609
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Speaker 1: different style, but probably play as many snaps as Ogan

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Speaker 1: Jobi did or something like that. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 3: For the Lions of Meek robertson the cornerback.

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Speaker 1: They've drafted too high and they signed one the signers,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, it's getting pretty crowded.

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Speaker 3: For the Packers, it's Romeo Dobbs I.

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Speaker 1: Think that's legit. Yeah, he's kind of stuck there.

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Speaker 3: Although what could be out The Watson could be out

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Speaker 3: for the year, so you probably don't move.

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Speaker 1: Dobbs and Wicks has been Maybe they trade Wicks he

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Speaker 1: has dropped problems. Yeah. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 3: For the Texans safety Jalen Petree, I don't get that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't either, don't.

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Speaker 1: I know he was injured quite a bit last year,

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Speaker 1: but I thought he was a big fan. I thought

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Speaker 1: they were big fans.

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Speaker 3: They did just trade for C. J. Gardner Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Kind of redundant they are.

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Speaker 1: They are the slot safety, do it all types. I

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Speaker 1: just think if Petri was on the open market, he'd

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Speaker 1: get a lot of money. Yeah, he would get paid.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't get haul into money, but he'd be the

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Speaker 1: next year mow Rig money.

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Speaker 3: Uh. For the Colts wide receiver Alec Pierce, I wonder.

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Speaker 1: If they trade Pittman too, that he makes some money.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the contract details are, but.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting. I mean pitching Pierce and Mitchell were

637
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Speaker 1: kind of redundant. Yeah, Mitchell was forced to do a

638
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Speaker 1: lot of slot stuff, but down the last guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Pittman was really hurt a lot last year too.

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Speaker 1: They do have an extra outside guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the Jaguars running back Travis Atn.

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Speaker 1: I think you can get him cheap. He's been kind

643
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Speaker 1: of been rumored for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and believe it or not, people, Naji Harris has

645
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Speaker 3: been has been a better professional football player than Travis Atm.

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Speaker 3: I got killed Friday for I ripped nausea. I wasn't

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Speaker 3: ripping nause I was making a comment on something he said.

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Speaker 3: He was a good football player for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he was a valued football player. He was the

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Speaker 3: best running back to come out of that draft. And

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Speaker 3: it's not even close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't think he was there after Atn and Williams,

653
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Speaker 1: but they were the top three he had. Don't remember he.

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Speaker 3: Has Like I looked it up, but two months ago

655
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Speaker 3: nag Harris had like twelve hundred more rushing yards than

656
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: any other player in that draft. He has like the

657
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: third most catches or something like his most touchdowns. Like,

658
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't even close. He was the back to take

659
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: in that draft.

660
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: I mean he is. He's near the top of the

661
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: list of rushing yards since he's been in the league. Yeah,

662
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean, including McCaffrey and Henry and a lot of

663
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: it's durability. I made it's a reliable but there was

664
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: an argument. Was it last two years ago when at

665
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: n got off to a hot start? Oh he's the

666
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: better back to nause He can't stay healthy and he can't.

667
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: They don't trust him. I think you can get it

668
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: for a fifth round pick, and they'd be happy just

669
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: to go Bigsby in the third round pick this year.

670
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, uh for the Kansas City.

671
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Cheese also not good in protection right things. People don't

672
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, Nausey doesn't fumble and you.

673
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: Know, cornerback Jalen Watson, Okay.

674
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: I assume he's up after this year. Why they move on?

675
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Not that he's great, but they've had they've had some

676
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: revolving doors at the corner position. They have a lot

677
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: more needs than people think though, Like they're dtackles next

678
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: to Chris Jones are really rough. We know about the

679
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: O line stuff. I would draft the tight end soon.

680
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: If not, you talk about succession plans. You know they

681
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: got a lot of need. I think we trading guys

682
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: away for the Raiders.

683
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: It's tight end. Michael Mayer he's been out there.

684
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think somebody would give you something decent

685
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: for him. I know we've got I would have to know.

686
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: Remember he missed a large chunk of last year for

687
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Shawn personal reasons. I would have to know reasons. Yeah,

688
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: what those personal? I mean, did somebody and his family die?

689
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: If that's the.

690
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: Case, Okay, I you know, I get it, Sure, Sure

691
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: if it was something beyond that, I don't know.

692
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: The psychological issues. Does he have something? I mean, who knows?

693
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: It could be a thousand different things. Is he I'm

694
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: not trying to spread rumors. No, he might be a

695
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: drug addict. He might be I mean, he could be anything.

696
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: Any number of things. I don't know what they are.

697
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: But I would have to delve into that a lot,

698
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: a lot deeply to know exactly what.

699
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: He lose interest in the game. I don't know. I mean,

700
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm throwing things out there.

701
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 3: Because they drafted Brock Bauers. Sure, I don't know.

702
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know that. I'm sure Dallas Goddard

703
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: is the Eagles one. But those are legit tight ends. Yeah,

704
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: somebody could use, you know, right.

705
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: For the Chargers, it's guard Zion Johnson.

706
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Well, they signed Beckton.

707
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: Now they got They brought in Andre James as well. Yeah,

708
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: they still have Bradley Boseman and Trey Pipkins.

709
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: There was talk that they were going to try to

710
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: make Zion a center this year. Well that's I don't

711
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: know that will happen. Now Bozeman's a center. It's not

712
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: great interior line, but beck Then's going to start, and

713
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it got kind of crowded. Yeah, no,

714
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: it's fifty year option time. Yeah, someone should throw something

715
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: in their way, Cowboys or somebody like that.

716
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: For the Chargers, it's safety Cam Curl.

717
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: He's only been there a year, I think, and some

718
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: of their younger I should know their secondary better. But

719
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: they landed some guys in the late.

720
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: Kinchins round won the third round pick last year.

721
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Some of their later picks hit for defensive backs that

722
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: weren't huge names. Yeah, you can get safeties deeper into

723
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: a draft. Well, I bet they don't want to. They're

724
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna invest in Irwin, They're not going to invest in both.

725
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: For the Dolphins, it's Tyreek Hill.

726
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: That's cool down, but I bet you could pry him away.

727
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: For the Vikings, it's defensive lineman Harrison Phillips.

728
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: He's more of the run stopper than the two guys

729
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: they signed, but they're all like the same age. Yeah,

730
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: that's a little redundant in terms of just team building.

731
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Now, Harrison Phillips is twenty nine.

732
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: Is that much different than Alan or Hargrave though, Harve

733
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: that Yeah, okay, that's pretty decent. Buck on three guys.

734
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would have some interest in here. Yeah.

735
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can still stop the run in old man strength.

736
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. For the Patriots, it is linebacker Juwan Bentley.

737
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, between the tackle thumper.

738
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: They signed Splane. They added Jack Gibbons.

739
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: The new scheme to Belichick. I mean, he's a Belichick guy,

740
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: and he's kind of the Land and Roberts.

741
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 3: They extended Johnnie Ty like okay, yeah, yeah, you're only

742
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: going to keep a certain number there obviously, so of

743
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: an need.

744
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: I wonder how many of these names are actual, like

745
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: June first couple right.

746
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: For the Saints, it's linebacker to Mario Davis.

747
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean you want from those Saints. I mean you

748
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: could get car I don't know if you can get

749
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: a Lave and anyone's been drafted in the last two years.

750
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine anybody's trading for thirty six year

751
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: old to Mario Davis, right.

752
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean to me, that might be like a trade

753
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: deadline deal that Fred Warner gets hurt and we need

754
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: a guy to rent for the rest of the year,

755
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: or something like that.

756
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 3: For the Giants, it's caveon Thibodeau.

757
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Especially if Abdol Carter's sitting there at three and they

758
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: don't go Sanders. I think it's his fifth year option time,

759
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: which it is, I would think they pick up. But

760
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: it's not a slam dunk. He's a good player.

761
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: But he's not what everybody thought he was going to be.

762
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: No, but if you were like the Lions or a contender,

763
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I might throw you a fourth I get it done.

764
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

765
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. For the Jets, it's guard Elijah Vera Tucker.

766
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: That's an odd one too, because they're lying. He just

767
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: hasn't been He's probably their best line hasn't been healthy.

768
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: He can play four positions, but his fifty year option time,

769
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: how about that one. I mean, I'm thinking about Ciamalohu's

770
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: replacement a year from now. I mean, he you wouldn't

771
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: trade for him, not to start him this year, right,

772
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that might make Isaac one of your trade candidates,

773
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: but a lot of that would be my medical staff.

774
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good player, have to check it out.

775
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: As you mentioned. For the Eagles, it was Dallas Goddard.

776
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: For the Steelers, it's George Pickens. Yeah, I can't imagine

777
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: him doing that at this point.

778
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: I'd lean towards no as well, but he would be

779
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: the name. I mean, if you got to put someone

780
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: out there, I don't know who else would even qualify.

781
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 3: For the forty nine Ers, it's Brandon Ayuk, which makes

782
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: no sense whatsoever since they just gave him money.

783
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: It is, I think his injury is pretty substantial.

784
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: Well, if that's the case, then you can't trade him.

785
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing. He's been rumored to the Browns, which

786
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how they would pull that off, but

787
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: I think they're taking a step back and they're going

788
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: to go Pierce all and Johnson who they like, Jennings

789
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: or Johnson Jennings Jennings Yeah, yeah, yeah, And but that's

790
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: so goofy.

791
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: That would be the dumbest thing ever. You just gave

792
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: him a huge signing bonet, all right, You.

793
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Probably could have got a first round pick a year ago.

794
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Now you get a third. Yeah, I mean at most.

795
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: And you got to eat the contract, the signing bonus. Mean, yeah,

796
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: it's nuts. I mean, if you were to move pickings,

797
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: I'd consider trading for Ayuk. But what what's his hell? Yeah?

798
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

799
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: What the hell situation is he toward the Aco in

800
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: week seven?

801
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: Contractually? The new team's in pretty good shape with him. Yeah,

802
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: the old team's in really bad sha.

803
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: For the Seahawks, it's boy A mafe Hm.

804
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: I guess he's getting to that contract time. Wasn't drafted

805
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: by this group. It's a good player though, Yeah, I

806
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: had a good year. He's starting to come into his own.

807
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: For the Buccaneers, it's for shab White.

808
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get him for a song and a dance. Yeah,

809
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: he's cheaper than ATM. They love the other guy, Irving,

810
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: and you could draft in the mid rounds and be fine.

811
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: For the Titans, it's safety of money, hooker.

812
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's more on that list.

813
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: Oh there's more for this Titans list for sure.

814
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: Could you price Simmons away, you know, like real dude, Yeah,

815
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't think of the I mean you could get

816
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: like Trailon Burks for a bag of football's, but I

817
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: mean the rest of the offense, you can't be trading

818
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: because you're trying to build the warden nest. You can't

819
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: get Ridley.

820
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: But I wonder if you get Simmons for the Commanders.

821
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: Is Brian Robinson Jr.

822
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I think he's just a guy. Yeah, I'd rather draft

823
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: past him, you know, without a doubt. Yeah, I mean

824
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Eckler doesn't really matter in that equation, but you can

825
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: get something for Robinson.

826
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: Sure, that's the list interesting guys.

827
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: There's twenty other names that are going to get camped

828
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: that are you know, that are floating around out there.

829
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: So if you're real into this, folks, just go to

830
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: every team I guess it's on spot track or over

831
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: the cap, just who are expiring contracts, and especially after

832
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: the draft when they draft someone at that position, you

833
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: can I get that he might.

834
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: Be right right, absolutely, Let's get to another break. He

835
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

836
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt

837
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: and I'll be back with more right after this least.

838
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

839
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

840
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

841
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the

842
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt we could be headed for a showdown.

843
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: Showdown is a showdown. Regular listener to the show Joey

844
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: Bag of Donuts.

845
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's a big time contributor. Yes, and we

846
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: appreciate Joey does a good job on the saw this

847
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: I need to click on it, but okay, coach me

848
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: up on this please. All right. So every he's a

849
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: regular occurrent.

850
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 3: Every March, he does his his Pittsburgh media madness.

851
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. The bracket, right, the bracket.

852
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so in the three Rivers Stadium bracket.

853
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: There's four quadrants like this.

854
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are in the I believe the South Hills

855
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: three of our stadium bracket. Yeah, all right, you're the

856
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: You're the fore seed. He goes by Twitter followers. However

857
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: many followers you have on the x Twitter?

858
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Really?

859
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Okay? For your seeding purposes, I got you? Is there

860
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: really sixty four names on this thing total? Yeah? Wow? Okay,

861
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: four seed among sixty four let's go pretty strong.

862
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: You're the four seed. On the five seed in the

863
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: same bracket.

864
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: They should not put us in the same bracket. So

865
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: right now we are du toward a meeting in the

866
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: around the thirty two here, okay, with one of us

867
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed to make the Sweet sixteen. Wow, that's pretty cool.

868
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: I think I lost to Missy Matthews last year.

869
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: It's all about who you get in the in the matchups.

870
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: You're right, right, It's all about the matchups too. Yeah,

871
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: I had no chance against Missy. I mean, leow me

872
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: out of the water. Yeah, who do we gotta beat

873
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: to get there?

874
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: So right, you're you are matched up against Dan ken

875
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 3: Gerski right now, I'm not familiar.

876
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: With this, but I hope I'm favored. I mean, maybe

877
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: he's a swell dude.

878
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: I mean it's a four to thirteen game.

879
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: You should be I should win that game, right right.

880
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: You're barely holding on though right now he.

881
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Might have to spread the word use a Twitter follower

882
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: point to.

883
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: Forty seven point nine percent. It's a tight match up here.

884
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: Joey tagged me again. I need to spread the word.

885
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: I can't lose it to a thirteen seed. I'm sure

886
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: Dan's a swell dude, but I gotta win that game.

887
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the media battlin.

888
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: I'm in the five to twelve game here against Mike Buckevin, okay,

889
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: and I'm up a sixty six point five percent to

890
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: thirty three point five percent.

891
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: What's the rest of our bracket look like? Well?

892
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Who are the teams to beat? In the eh, we

893
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: get the for thee. If you get into the sweet sixteen,

894
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: you get the one seed.

895
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: How does that work?

896
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: What do you mean to get through your breat That

897
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: means we knocked off the twos and threes and no

898
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: they're in the them part.

899
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I see four or five? Gotcha?

900
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: Madden's the number one seed in our bracket.

901
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: That's a problem. I assume he's got a ton of followers.

902
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's certainly on the air fair amounth.

903
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: He is beating the pants off of Cale Burger.

904
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Okay, now, poor Cale had ran into a buzz.

905
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the sixteen seed. He is the Robert Morris

906
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: of the bracket.

907
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: There's some folks that aren't real keen on double m

908
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: though there are There might be. It might might be

909
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: like the most recent political election, people might just vote

910
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: against somebody.

911
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: That can happen that does happen in this in this

912
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: particular bracket.

913
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: It's a possibility at least if I go against Mark,

914
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: that's going to be my campaign. Soogan vote for anyone

915
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: but Mark, right right, right right? And then the eight

916
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: nine game in our bracket is between Chris Carter and

917
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Rich Walsh. Quality competition, Okay, who are the who else

918
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: is in our bracket? Just total? Uh?

919
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: That's in our our little quadrant of the Yeah. Yeah,

920
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: so I don't know where our games are being placed.

921
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: I think we're in the South Hills.

922
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: That's my home. It's your home, my neck of the woods.

923
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: Your home. I'm south of the South Hills. Yeah, it's

924
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: not too far road trip though your fans travel. So

925
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: just looking at the open wonder who like who are

926
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: the other one seeds? And Kolby Armstrong in the Hinz

927
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: field is a one seed? Is a one seed? He

928
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: must have a big following on social media. Former player

929
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: he and j Coffield going, oh that's battand I would think, yeah,

930
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 3: I like Coffield doing that. One Joe Block versus Adam

931
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Crowley is the eight to nine game. Missy Matthews versus

932
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: Kevin Gorman. Well Gorman has he stands no chance miss

933
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: is gonna blow him away. Then you get the five

934
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: to twelve game. There is Joe Starkey versus Jerry De Paula. Okay,

935
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: h the two seed is Josh Joey versus Dan Potash.

936
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: That's a two fifteen. It's another one that's kind of

937
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: hits home.

938
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 3: Mike pursuit of the seventh seed against Paul stagger Wall.

939
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: The ten seed. Trip is only a seventh seed.

940
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: Wow, gotta work harder on his media. Uh, the ten

941
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: seed is Paul Staggerwall. I mentioned that. I said Jerry

942
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: Dulac the three seed against Pat Bostick, the fourteen seed.

943
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: Jerry's a stalwart.

944
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: And then you've got the five seed or the sixth seed.

945
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: I should say Greg Brown versus Hailey Hunter. Okay, I

946
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: am not familiar with Hailey Hunter.

947
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: No names you mentioned. I don't know what his.

948
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: First sports Net reporter says justin Okay, I'll take your

949
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: word for that.

950
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: Uh.

951
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 3: Bob Pompiani the one seed in the PNC Park bracket.

952
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Pretty lovable fella. It's gonna be hard to knock off.

953
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: Buddy's squaring off against Ashley li otis the sixteen seed.

954
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with Ashley either Ashley, I don't know

955
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: if they work for the same stuff. Mhm, but yeah, uh,

956
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: you got Dorin Dickerson and Alan Saunders the eight nine,

957
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: Max Starks versus Josh Rowntree. So Max coming in as

958
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: a four seed is well.

959
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Not a local guy though he's only only flies in

960
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: for games. I use that against him in the campaign.

961
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: Ray fil Apaluldo against Jeff Hathorne. In the five to

962
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 3: twelve game. You got Michelle Krazechio is the two seed. Again,

963
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: not familiar with her.

964
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: She must do hockey, You must do something well, right.

965
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, against Wes Yuler seed Jesse Marshall versus Josh gets Off,

966
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 3: Arthur Motes versus Cassidy would and Seth Roerba versus Mike

967
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: the Fabo and you got the PPG paints. You got

968
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: day On Kovokovic is the one seed against Rob King

969
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: the sixteen.

970
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: Rob's a sixteen King, Here's a sixteen You talk about

971
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Cinderella's story, dude.

972
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: He must not be very active on social media.

973
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a fact. Yeah, because I even remember

974
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: when the Steelers would tag us for those.

975
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: I had to search to find Rob's Twitter hand.

976
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: Anyway, it was just and Rob King not even like

977
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: he has a I know he does, Yeah, he does,

978
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: but it's he's not real active claimed author though. Yes

979
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: he is.

980
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: Sword and Stone or Jordan Stone, Jenna Harner versus Andrew Stocky,

981
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: Jason Mackie versus Mike Asty, Chris Mueller versus Brian Batco,

982
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Philippony versus Joe brand, Bill Hillgrove versus Matt Vensel,

983
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: Rob Rossey versus.

984
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: And Bill's not super involved on Twitter. He is not,

985
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: but he's a sleeper and he's strong. I mean, wh's

986
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: voting against him?

987
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a seventh seed, like strong seventh seed. I say,

988
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: any sixteen seed is a pretty strong, strong sixteen. I

989
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: think he's actually whopping a day On's butt right now. Wow,

990
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: it's an easy battle either. I mean Rob Rossy versus

991
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Shelby Casssi and Dave Malnery versus Phil Bork.

992
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Well, they match some of the hockey guys together. I

993
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: mean the Drive team could be going at one another.

994
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: One on one. Me and you brother in the bottom

995
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: part of our bracket. We've gone through the top part

996
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: of the bracket.

997
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: Probably beat me by less than one point. Like the

998
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: Fantasy League.

999
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: Caboli versus Austin Beck told familiar with Taylor Haas versus

1000
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: Chris Adamski, Bob Labriola versus Joe Rudder Old school Battle.

1001
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: How about Labs is a three seed, He's a social

1002
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: social He could end up in the bottom part of

1003
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: that bracket. The six to eleven game is Tim Bens

1004
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: versus Donnie I'm not gonna see. Is what they call

1005
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: him on that show, Donnie. I can't think of his

1006
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: last name now, uh, well, they call him Donny Football,

1007
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: but that's Chedrick, gotcha. Yeah, he actually went to college

1008
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: with my son. Could be Benzi and Labs in the

1009
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: there you go, yeah, yeah, and ask Labs about that

1010
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: on Wednesday. I guarantee he knows nothing about it.

1011
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: As I say, some of the heaviest hitters aren't real

1012
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: busy on Twitter. Some dudes weren't closest with Rob.

1013
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: I saw it this morning when I got up. I

1014
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: had some things to do this morning, and we're definitely

1015
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: bring us up. I'm sitting around and I'm like, oh.

1016
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: Interesting, I did see that, and I meant to click

1017
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: on it and didn't. But anyways, I guess I'm not

1018
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: faring very well in Ron. Joey bagg of Donuts a

1019
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: follower of the show. We appreciate Joey and you can

1020
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: check that out on his his feed, which is I

1021
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: believe just that Joey Bagga Donuts. I think so. Yeah,

1022
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: he sends in a bunch of questions. He's great.

1023
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the best feeds in Pittsburgh and check

1024
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 3: that out. But let's get to a break. He is

1025
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

1026
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That's going

1027
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: to do it for our number one, Matt, and I'll

1028
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: be back with our number two right after this.