WEBVTT - Unwrapping the Shame 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.600 Good morning, peep Sen. Welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.680 me your girl Danielle Moody recording from the home bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:25.360 I'm having one of those days where I recognize that 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:32.159 everything is just going to ship. You know, in the 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:39.640 news you have Clarence Thomas, who we know his wife 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.199 is an insurrectionist, was a part of the coup to 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:48.320 overthrow the presidency, to overthrow the election for Donald Trump. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.200 She was asked nicely to testify before the January sixth 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:58.800 Committee not under investigation, and lo and behold Clarence Thomas, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.480 the sole justice to block a lower court in Georgia 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:08.040 from forcing Lindsey Graham to testify on why Lindsey Graham 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.960 was on a fucking phone call with people in the 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.680 state of Georgia with regard to overthrowing their election. Mind you, 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.680 this isn't his fucking state, so there was no reason 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.480 for Lindsey Graham to be calling anyone in Georgia except 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.680 if he was doing something illegal or nefarious. But you see, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.960 when you fucking you know, have a corrupt Supreme Court, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.880 then you can do whatever you want. Laws don't matter, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.400 the courts don't matter. Nothing. Actually, fucking matters, and that's 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.960 how I feel today. Then you have Merrick Garland decides 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.320 that he's going to hold a press conference, and of 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.320 course everyone is collectively holding their breath thinking that it's 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.360 going to be an announcement about, oh, I don't know, 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.080 the most corrupt person in America, the most treasonous fucking 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:58.000 person in America, the most dangerous person in America, Donald Trump, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.440 and no, it's to talk about some double agents in China. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:07.720 I'm like, y'all, I'm having one of those days where 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.959 I just, you know, want to head to a beach 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.800 with a picture of liquor and just wait for the 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:19.800 fucking comment to hit. Because two weeks until mid terms, 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.639 I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Does anybody 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.720 have any idea? You know, the polls are going in 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.839 the direction of the Republicans. You know that I don't 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.000 give a fuck about polls. So we'll find out on 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.760 election day or who the fuck knows, maybe a week 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.040 or two weeks after where the balance of power lies. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.240 Does it lie with the fascists or does it lie 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.160 with the people who are trying to, you know, fight 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.600 for democracy the way the fucking horse race that the 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.000 news is portraying this in I can't even turn on 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.160 the television because it makes me sick, and I don't 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.800 want to break my television by throwing a remote at 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.080 it because I paid for it. But that's the fucking 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.800 mood that I'm in when I listened to them pretending 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.720 this is a normal fucking election. It's not. It's America's 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.120 last election. And maybe if you know, the media spoke 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.160 about it in that way, then more people would be 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.800 coming out to vote who the fuck knows, more people 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.000 would be voting Democrat, because you know, they like nice 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:20.200 things like freedom. I just I'm at a loss, and 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.600 there are some days that are worse than others. I 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.040 had a really nice weekend, right like, and I hope 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.200 all of you did too. But I gotta tell you 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.079 that by the time you've reached fucking Tuesday in this 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.480 you know black hole that we call America, it feels 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.840 like you've lived eighty seven days in one, right. The 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.720 exhaustion is real. I posted, you know, several videos on 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.760 TikTok where I addressed them to white America, and then 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.240 I have motherfucker's coming back and telling me, oh, this 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.720 isn't helpful. Do you know what's not helpful? A entire 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.400 expose in the New York Times about how aggrieved white 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.760 people are that they are no longer able to oppress 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.520 as many people as they want, and they align themselves 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.080 with Trump because they feel like they've lost their way. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.120 Why don't you actually do an article New York Times 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.520 about the rise in white supremacy and racism in this 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.440 country and the fact that Donald Trump didn't do anything 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.960 other than reveal America to itself. Right, I don't need 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.880 to have these multiple articles that are trying to do 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.039 what provoke some type of empathy for white people that 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.599 decided not to get an education, that decided not to 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.760 compete because they thought that whiteness was enough of a 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.560 currency for them to stay ahead and keep ahead. Get 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.280 the fuck out of here, Like, I'm tired of the bullshit. Right, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.360 We're in this predicament because motherfuckers think that they don't 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.600 have to work for shit. It's just black and brown people, right, 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.479 it's just queer people, right, it's just women. Everybody else 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.200 who's been doubling and tripling up on fucking degrees going 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.479 into debt that now where the Republican Party has blocked 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.440 relief in right, because they want people to be suffering 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.520 because they're easier to control that way. Like I am 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:07.600 just tired. And on top of that, we had another 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:15.039 school shooting. We are the only goddamn country where school 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:19.680 shootings are the fucking norm. We're sending your kids to 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.120 school is roughly like rolling the dice hoping that you 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.599 see them again. You have Texas fucking sending out DNA 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.320 kids so that they can do whatever the fuck they 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.240 want with that swab. I don't trust the State of 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.479 Texas with anything, let alone the fucking my fucking DNA, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.240 so that'll end up in somebody's crime scene so that 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.800 they can keep their you know, prison industrial complex rolling on. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:49.600 I just like every goddamn where that you look, everywhere 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.960 you look right now, it is like one thing is 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.839 worse than the next, and the week is not even 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:03.159 halfway over. I know that the name of the game 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.679 here is exhaustion, and I got to tell you today, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.520 I'm exhausted today, I really, you know, I am so 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:15.000 grateful for my upcoming guests Ebony Munn and Doctor Lex 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.920 to talk about, you know, something hopeful, like their new 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:25.400 series Queer Sex Ad, you know, to provide some real 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.200 understanding of sexuality and the body and all of these 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.960 things for young queer kids who basically and not even 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:36.520 young queer kids, let me tell you something, kids in America, gay, straight, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.240 non binary, otherwise do not receive a comprehensive sex education. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:46.880 They just don't, right, It is bullshit. And so what 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.880 this series is trying to do Queer Sex Ad is 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.680 to combat all of the myths so that you know, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:59.000 our kids grow up with a healthy understanding of themselves 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.480 and their bodies, what they want, what they don't want, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.240 what is okay, and what is not. And some of 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.760 the things that you may hear in this conversation may 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:11.600 seem radical to you, but it shouldn't be. You know, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:18.640 I'm just like you know, everyone keeps saying that at 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.760 some point in time, all the bad people will die 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.240 and they'll make way for the new. But folks, we've 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.280 been saying that for centuries, and this shit is cyclical. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.880 And where we are right now in our body politic 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:38.000 is really about ignorance and funding ignorance, right, and the 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.240 fact that we don't teach civics, the fact that we 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.560 don't teach the truth about this country, which is why 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:48.040 a whole population the large swath of white Americans believe 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.160 that they are having something taken away from them that 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.880 they never fucking earned in the first place. Right, But 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.360 if we taught the truth about history, if we taught 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.360 the truth about who were the inventors and the engineers 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.320 and the architects and all of these things, then maybe 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.640 they would have a better sense of fucking self. Maybe 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.080 they would have decided, right in Middle America not to 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.960 just rely on their father's factory and their grandfather's factory 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.080 and their great grandfather's fucking coal mine as a way 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.520 to provide for their families. Maybe they would have been 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.120 told to fucking go to school, get an education, and 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.240 then maybe then, you know, the academic industrial complex wouldn't 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.040 have decided to make school so goddamn expensive, because then 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.680 white people would have gotten up in arms about it. Right, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.480 But the whole point of making school expensive was then 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.960 to loot black and brown people and pour people into 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.280 a fucking cycle of debt that now Republicans want to 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.559 keep up. Because you see, if you are not suffering, 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.360 if you have more choice in your life about where 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.000 you want to live and how you want to work 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.640 and where you want to work, then they don't have 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.960 the same amount of control. Like, that's what all of 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:55.480 this goes back to. And it's so clear to me 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.560 and so frustrating that other people just refuse to see 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.800 it or do not have the same level of intellect 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.520 to be able to cut through the bullshit. I don't 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.640 know what it is, and maybe it's both. You know, 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.360 I don't know why I'm saying that it needs to 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:13.000 be an option, But my god, you know, we have 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.080 kids that are so fucking scared of their own bodies, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.920 of themselves. We have such sexual repression in this country 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.320 that you have people going on full campaigns to stop 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.080 drag queens from being able to read to children. But 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.720 you'll send your kids over to the Catholic priests like 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:35.320 that's okay. Which one of them has been charged with 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:47.080 sexual abuse over decades, not the drag queens, Folks. You know, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:51.680 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.680 know that we have two weeks until the midterm elections. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.280 I know that early voting is starting now in many 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.520 more states. Folks, Grab as many people as you can 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.600 head to the polls. Make sure that you are registered, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.560 make sure you're on the roster, Make sure that you 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.560 are getting at least five other people to vote, or 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.960 to come up with a voting plan, take them to 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.320 the polls, you know, give money, do something, because I 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.320 I feel like we are losing it. I feel like 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.720 we are losing it, and not just our democracy but 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.559 our minds in the process. And I need us so 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.960 desperately to hold it together. But some days, Volks, some 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.280 days like today, I just want to scream out into 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:41.560 the void. What in the entire fuck are people thinking? 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.640 Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation which is much 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.720 more up lifting than this with ebanymun who is the 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.160 director of brand Marketing and content creative at that It 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:57.640 Gets Better Project, and doctor Lex who is a PhD 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:02.320 level sexologist and licensed marriage and family therapist who operates 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:07.040 the Institute for Sexuality and Intimacy. She is featured within 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.800 the series as one of these sex educators of queer 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:17.840 sex ed. That conversation is coming up next, folks, I 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.360 am very excited to welcome to Okay f Daily for 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:27.520 the first time, two wonderful people to discuss where we 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.280 are as it pertains to LGBTQ youth, as it pertains 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:37.160 to how we're actually educating our young people. Ebeny Munn 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.000 is director and brand marketing, brand marketer for and content 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.440 and creative at that It Gets Better Project. Doctor Lex 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.600 is a PhD level sexologist and license marriage and family 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:56.240 therapists who operates the Institute for Sexuality and Intimacy. And 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.599 both are a part of Queer Ed, which is a 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.400 five part long form video series produced by the It 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.000 Gets Better Project. UM. I want to welcome you both, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.880 uh to woke a f and I and I want 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.679 to start out and I'll just you know, open open 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.800 it up and we can just dive into conversation, which 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:20.800 is UM first, you know the It Gets Better Project. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:26.880 For me, I remember back in the early two thousands, Um, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:32.319 you know the rash of suicides that were happening. UM 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.840 LGBTQ youth, some as young as as as eight nine 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:41.120 years old. Uh, we're taking their own lives because of 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.080 being bullied either for actually being queer or just the 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.480 perception that they were different. And I remember that It 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:57.240 Gets Better project coming together with videos from LGBTQ, you know, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.400 adults who wanted to showcase that there is another side 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.400 to this, this this torment, this bullying. UM, what you 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.200 feel like is the end of your life, that there 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.920 is another side that we can that we can get to. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:18.000 And I remember participating, uh in you know, in those videos, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.000 and so I'll do this Evany. I'll start with you, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:27.400 because you're the director of content and brand marketing. How 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:32.200 has the It Gets Better Project shifted and changed from 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.160 those early two thousands with this series of videos? You 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.360 know that was basically an opportunity for for us to 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.960 take care of us absolutely, so the It Gets Better 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.880 Project our mission is to uplift in power and connect 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.640 LGBT you. And so the early stages of kind of 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:56.920 having celebrities, well known LGBT people in that space kind 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.239 of speak directly to you has changed. Now we're actually 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.400 talking to you directly with you and other young people 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.480 who are kind of standing in that gap of creative 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.120 storytelling kind of matching people and saying, hey, this is 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.280 a journey, we are along with you. Here are the 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.120 steps toward that journey. You can ascend up the steps 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.440 you can. You know, we'll meet you where you are 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:23.520 sort of thing and doctor Alex you are a sexologist 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.760 and you know I want you to be able to 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:30.000 a explain exactly what that exactly what your focus and 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:35.600 discipline is. And then why it is important to have 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:42.320 a doctor like yourself participating in conversations with the it 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.920 gets better projects. Thank you so much, great questions. So, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.680 a sexologist is a person who studies sexuality. In the 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.120 short run, the issue is that most people only get 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.120 the first three letters. They say sex, and they only 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.840 think intercourse. They don't think identity and body esteem and 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.960 intimate relationships and power dynamics within all of sexuality, which 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:09.240 every single person has from womb to tomb, every single person, right, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.920 and it may come in different aspects for ace folks, 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.760 that may come for all sorts of things and results 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.040 of trauma. But sexuality is an entire being. It's not 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.720 just something that people do with their genitals. And so, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.960 as a PhD sexologist and a license of marriage family 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.560 therapist coming to this project with an honor a and 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.640 then be wanting to make sure that sexuality is something 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.120 that can be talked about from multiple lenses. Right. We 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.040 always hear don't go out and get pregnant, don't get 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.160 an STI. But that's all we hear about. We don't 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.360 talk about identity development, or it's shamed or it's written 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.200 off as oh, it's just a phase, and so I 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.359 wanted to bring that No, there are dynamics to sexuality 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:57.200 that are identity making, that involve a socio emotional response, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.400 and that are completely valid in their existence, no matter 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:06.080 how they come. What a novel concept to actually teach 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:11.760 about entire identity as opposed to what I believe the 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.280 far right has done, which is to make everything be 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:20.200 about generals, everything be about sex as opposed to who 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.920 we are as entire people. To talk to us ebony 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:31.080 about this series and why this series is so important 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.160 and what you're hoping people get from it totally. So 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.320 I am the creative mind behind Course Sex It that 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.800 kind of pairs sex educators with LGBT friend groups for 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.600 open and honest conversations that range from how you first 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:53.080 experience some pleasure, how you set boundaries over time, and 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.840 just sex and the disability community. And the concept came 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.400 from I remember when I was young, I didn't have 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.720 those conversations with my parents, with anyone. It was kind 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.600 of taboo. It was hush hush, But I did have 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.040 those conversations with my friend groups, and there were a 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:16.639 lot of conversations. Some of that information was very accurate 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.639 other parts of that conversation not so much. We needed 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.280 a second opinion. And so bringing this uh, you know, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.720 sex d series and focusing on friend groups, also allowing 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.520 sex educators to kind of come in and debunk myths, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.159 talk about you know, what their changes are going on 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.399 with your body, how you learned or relearned, pleasure, you 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.160 know what you're looking forward to, just made so much 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.280 sense because you know, queer kids are already having these conversations, 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.679 and why not filling that gap? Hey, I'm David plots 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:56.639 a slice Political Gapfest. 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If you like what 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.000 you hear, be sure to subscribe so you never miss 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:24.840 a new episode. You know, there is just something that 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:31.640 becomes so taboo when we talk about young people and pleasure, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:37.280 when we talk about, you know, the idea of understanding 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:42.040 our bodies, our identities, and how we want to be 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.880 in relationship and if we want to be in relationship 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:50.520 with others, but more importantly, how we engage in relationship 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:55.760 intimate relationship with ourselves. And so doctor lex I, you know, 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:02.080 my work is around politics and equity and justice right 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:07.080 and elevating conversations to the forefront that mainstream media is 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.159 too chicken shit to be fair to have to have 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:15.080 a real conversation about. Right, So I do want to 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:20.080 how do you push back against the rhetoric that would 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.720 say that by virtue of this series, by virtue of 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.719 the work that you do, you are sexualizing children that 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:35.280 in for for us to want to create healthy connections 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:40.680 with self, body, identity, heart and with others. That this 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.040 is what as as Marjorie Taylor Green, where a representative 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.480 and I use that in air quotes, has said that 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:53.320 we are sexualizing children, We are grooming children. We are 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.080 the ones that are pedophiles and need to be looked after. 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.200 So talk to me about how doctor Lex you push 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:10.120 back against that type of misguided and dangerous rhetoric. So 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.119 that is basically my entire platform. Right, So, I believe 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.680 in raising sex positive kids, which shame pree sex it 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.679 and people will see like sex positive. And remember I 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.439 told you people get caught up on just amitals. We 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:27.080 teach children to betray their bodies very early. We'll finish 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.960 all the food on your plate. You only took two bites, 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.280 You're still hungry, And that kid is like, no, I'm good. 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.480 We're not trusting that kid We're not teaching that kid 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:39.000 to trust their bodies. I'm also raising a five, four 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.359 and three month old right now in the world, and 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.800 my kids know what evolva is. My five year old 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.600 came out to me as a girl, even though she 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.520 was forcibly assigned girl. We went through some pronoun changes 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.199 because she was still figuring out who she was, and 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.280 we rolled with it. And so to those like super conservatives, 0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.920 which I've had run ins right when answering questions, I 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.040 thought a TikTok or something I want them to expand 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.480 the thing that people don't realize is the same innocence 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.880 quote unquote that they're trying to protect, is the same 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:14.440 innocence that minor attracted people are attracted to. And innocence 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.680 never equals ignorant. Say that, right, So you can have 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.840 knowledge and still be innocent. And because my kids have 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.040 knowledge of their bodies, they know a vulva as a vulva, 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.159 a penis as a penis. When somebody says, hey, let 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.960 me share my penis, my kid be like, why I 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:32.960 don't want to see your penis. I don't consent to 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:38.080 that versus this is interesting. If somebody walks up and says, 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:39.800 I can make your body feel good. My kid is like, 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.879 I can make my body feel good. Why would I 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.560 need you to do that for me? This is strange. 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.280 I'm going to go talk to somebody about it. You 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.879 can't shame my children with knowledge like, well, you're not 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:51.760 supposed to say that word. Well, my mom says, there 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.040 are no dirty words. There only words, right, So we're 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.080 teaching them by disarming those who might try and enact 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.840 power over that. You can't shame my kids into a 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.399 behavior because my kids know this thing, and they know 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.680 if you're trying to have them keep a secret, then 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.360 I'm gonna tell on you because we don't keep secrets 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.480 in my house. We only do surprises. And this doesn't 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.800 feel like a surprise because I trust myself to know 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.960 that this doesn't feel good, because I've learned from an 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.200 early age what feels good and what doesn't. And it's 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:26.879 not just about genitals. M doctor LUs my goodness. Okay, 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.840 So you're gonna be busy because we don't need to 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.560 drop you in every state, in every school district, in 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.160 every classroom, you know, in and out of systems. Because 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:44.720 that was a mouthful. I want to pick I want 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:51.640 to go back to innocence versus ignorance. I want to 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:55.639 go back to this idea that what I what I 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:59.879 hear from conservatives, right, and I don't even really like 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:05.639 to use the word conservative. What I hear from people 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:11.520 who are anti education is that the more that we 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:15.040 are disconnected from ourselves, the easier we are to control. 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.200 The more you know that we are disconnected from ourselves 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.600 and wrapped up in shame, as you have said, the 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:27.879 easier that we are to become submissive to their will. 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:33.879 And so, you know, I want to and Ebony, I 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.359 want to bring you in as well. I want to 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:41.160 dig into this idea that LGBTQ kids should be ashamed 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:45.639 of themselves, should be embarrassed. We are now living in 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.760 a climate that says that you can't even utter the 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.960 word gay. You just said, doctor lex there are no 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.439 dirty words, there are just words. Well, the whole state 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.960 of Florida, the whole state of Texas, the whole you know, 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.119 and we can run through these red state governors that 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.840 have not only said that the word gay is a 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:09.560 bad word, right and so should not be uttered, but 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:13.879 that we should be criminalized. So how do you balance 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.640 what you just articulated as something that I see as 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:22.159 so beautiful and so honest and so real, because I 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.400 remember being young that my mother said the same thing. 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.560 She's a registered nurse, and said, I don't want you 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.880 and your sister to learn the baby words of your 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:37.200 body because if somebody is touching you and we need 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:42.560 to deal with that via police courts, via whatever, then 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:47.760 I don't want there to be any misinterpretation. Right. And 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:52.320 so how do we continue to want to create this 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:57.320 kind of safe environment that is raising young people to 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:02.120 be proud of who they are when we have entire states, 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:07.040 leaders of entire political parties that are saying the opposite ebone, 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.880