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Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sen. Welcome to Okay f Daily with

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Speaker 1: me your girl Danielle Moody recording from the home bunker. Folks,

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Speaker 1: I'm having one of those days where I recognize that

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Speaker 1: everything is just going to ship. You know, in the

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Speaker 1: news you have Clarence Thomas, who we know his wife

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Speaker 1: is an insurrectionist, was a part of the coup to

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Speaker 1: overthrow the presidency, to overthrow the election for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: She was asked nicely to testify before the January sixth

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Speaker 1: Committee not under investigation, and lo and behold Clarence Thomas,

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Speaker 1: the sole justice to block a lower court in Georgia

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Speaker 1: from forcing Lindsey Graham to testify on why Lindsey Graham

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia with regard to overthrowing their election. Mind you,

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Speaker 1: this isn't his fucking state, so there was no reason

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Speaker 1: for Lindsey Graham to be calling anyone in Georgia except

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Speaker 1: if he was doing something illegal or nefarious. But you see,

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Speaker 1: when you fucking you know, have a corrupt Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: then you can do whatever you want. Laws don't matter,

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Speaker 1: the courts don't matter. Nothing. Actually, fucking matters, and that's

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Speaker 1: how I feel today. Then you have Merrick Garland decides

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Speaker 1: that he's going to hold a press conference, and of

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Speaker 1: course everyone is collectively holding their breath thinking that it's

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Speaker 1: going to be an announcement about, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the most corrupt person in America, the most treasonous fucking

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Speaker 1: person in America, the most dangerous person in America, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and no, it's to talk about some double agents in China.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, I'm having one of those days where

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Speaker 1: I just, you know, want to head to a beach

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Speaker 1: fucking comment to hit. Because two weeks until mid terms,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Does anybody

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Speaker 1: the direction of the Republicans. You know that I don't

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Speaker 1: election day or who the fuck knows, maybe a week

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Speaker 1: or two weeks after where the balance of power lies.

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Speaker 1: Does it lie with the fascists or does it lie

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Speaker 1: with the people who are trying to, you know, fight

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Speaker 1: for democracy the way the fucking horse race that the

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Speaker 1: news is portraying this in I can't even turn on

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Speaker 1: the television because it makes me sick, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to break my television by throwing a remote at

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Speaker 1: it because I paid for it. But that's the fucking

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Speaker 1: mood that I'm in when I listened to them pretending

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Speaker 1: this is a normal fucking election. It's not. It's America's

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Speaker 1: last election. And maybe if you know, the media spoke

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Speaker 1: would be voting Democrat, because you know, they like nice

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Speaker 1: things like freedom. I just I'm at a loss, and

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Speaker 1: there are some days that are worse than others. I

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Speaker 1: had a really nice weekend, right like, and I hope

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Speaker 1: all of you did too. But I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: that by the time you've reached fucking Tuesday in this

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Speaker 1: you know black hole that we call America, it feels

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Speaker 1: like you've lived eighty seven days in one, right. The

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Speaker 1: exhaustion is real. I posted, you know, several videos on

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Speaker 1: I have motherfucker's coming back and telling me, oh, this

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Speaker 1: isn't helpful. Do you know what's not helpful? A entire

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Speaker 1: expose in the New York Times about how aggrieved white

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Speaker 1: people are that they are no longer able to oppress

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Speaker 1: as many people as they want, and they align themselves

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Speaker 1: Why don't you actually do an article New York Times

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Speaker 1: about the rise in white supremacy and racism in this

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Speaker 1: other than reveal America to itself. Right, I don't need

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Speaker 1: to have these multiple articles that are trying to do

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Speaker 1: what provoke some type of empathy for white people that

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Speaker 1: decided not to get an education, that decided not to

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Speaker 1: currency for them to stay ahead and keep ahead. Get

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Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, Like, I'm tired of the bullshit. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're in this predicament because motherfuckers think that they don't

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Speaker 1: have to work for shit. It's just black and brown people, right,

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Speaker 1: it's just queer people, right, it's just women. Everybody else

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Speaker 1: just tired. And on top of that, we had another

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Speaker 1: school shooting. We are the only goddamn country where school

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Speaker 1: see them again. You have Texas fucking sending out DNA

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Speaker 1: so that'll end up in somebody's crime scene so that

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Speaker 1: I just like every goddamn where that you look, everywhere

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Speaker 1: worse than the next, and the week is not even

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Speaker 1: halfway over. I know that the name of the game

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Speaker 1: here is exhaustion, and I got to tell you today,

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted today, I really, you know, I am so

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Speaker 1: grateful for my upcoming guests Ebony Munn and Doctor Lex

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Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, something hopeful, like their new

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Speaker 1: series Queer Sex Ad, you know, to provide some real

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Speaker 1: understanding of sexuality and the body and all of these

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Speaker 1: things for young queer kids who basically and not even

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Speaker 1: young queer kids, let me tell you something, kids in America, gay, straight,

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Speaker 1: non binary, otherwise do not receive a comprehensive sex education.

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Speaker 1: They just don't, right, It is bullshit. And so what

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Speaker 1: this series is trying to do Queer Sex Ad is

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Speaker 1: to combat all of the myths so that you know,

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Speaker 1: our kids grow up with a healthy understanding of themselves

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Speaker 1: and their bodies, what they want, what they don't want,

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Speaker 1: the things that you may hear in this conversation may

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Speaker 1: seem radical to you, but it shouldn't be. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like you know, everyone keeps saying that at

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Speaker 1: some point in time, all the bad people will die

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Speaker 1: and they'll make way for the new. But folks, we've

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Speaker 1: been saying that for centuries, and this shit is cyclical.

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Speaker 1: And where we are right now in our body politic

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Speaker 1: is really about ignorance and funding ignorance, right, and the

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Speaker 1: fact that we don't teach civics, the fact that we

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Speaker 1: don't teach the truth about this country, which is why

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Speaker 1: a whole population the large swath of white Americans believe

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Speaker 1: they never fucking earned in the first place. Right, But

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Speaker 1: if we taught the truth about history, if we taught

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Speaker 1: But the whole point of making school expensive was then

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Speaker 1: keep up. Because you see, if you are not suffering,

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Speaker 1: if you have more choice in your life about where

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Speaker 1: and so frustrating that other people just refuse to see

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Which one of them has been charged with

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Speaker 1: sexual abuse over decades, not the drag queens, Folks. You know,

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation which is much

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Speaker 1: and so I'll do this Evany. I'll start with you,

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Speaker 1: there's a level of I don't want people to treat

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Speaker 1: you as poorly as I treat these people. You know.

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Speaker 1: What's really interesting too that I find is that I

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Speaker 1: often talk about the far right right and it's not

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Speaker 1: it's just the entirety of the Republican Party that is

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Speaker 1: a debt operates not only from a place of fear,

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Speaker 1: but from a place of scarcity, right, Because you can't

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Speaker 1: do what they are doing if you are if you

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Speaker 1: are coming from a place of abundance, right, like, you

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Speaker 1: would not seek to, you know, marginalize and section off

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Speaker 1: and oppress people if you were coming from a place

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Speaker 1: that says that you were enough. Right. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's how do we in this climate? And this is

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Speaker 1: you know, I wrote about this recently at The Daily Beast.

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Speaker 1: When I'm you know, I'm asking, you know, are the

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Speaker 1: kids okay? Because I don't think that they are. Because

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Speaker 1: I think that when we look at the number of

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Speaker 1: young people who are being prescribed antidepressants and anti anxiety medication,

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Speaker 1: when we look at the fact that LGBTQ youth have

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Speaker 1: always had higher than the average attempts at suicide, how

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Speaker 1: were we to create this level of comfort and esteem

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Speaker 1: in this climate? Like, what does that really look like, right,

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Speaker 1: because you're doing an entire series that wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to air in the state of Texas, in the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida, in the state of Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee. Right. Like, So,

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Speaker 1: if the idea here is that we need to get

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Speaker 1: information out in order to keep these kids safe, but

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Speaker 1: what the what Republicans have said is that if education

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Speaker 1: and information is a problem, then how do we help

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Speaker 1: young people navigate and feel seen again at a time

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Speaker 1: when they're being pushed back into the shadows? And I'll

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Speaker 1: let either one of you just jump in. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Ebany is doing with this creative vision. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: as a person who's pan sexual who is also a

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Speaker 1: recovering Baptist from the South, all right, we've always found

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Speaker 1: each other. Queer folks have always found each other and

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Speaker 1: built community because queerness has been since before colonization, right,

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Speaker 1: and has been globally in existence before colonization, and every

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Speaker 1: culture there has been queerness, and that got a race

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Speaker 1: with colonization because of that shame and level of discomfort. Right.

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Speaker 1: So I think by putting it out there, people will

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Speaker 1: share things on their phones, people like, girl, did you

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Speaker 1: see this clip, watch this TikTok, watch this Instagram real,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. So as long as we put it

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Speaker 1: out there for it to be found, I am trusting

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Speaker 1: that the people searching for it will find it and

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Speaker 1: then they will share it amongst their communities because it

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Speaker 1: says we're not alone, right, And I will say our

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Speaker 1: young folks are some of the most mobilized. As young people.

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Speaker 1: People always talk about them not being able to socialize.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're talking a hundred people a day. Hundreds

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Speaker 1: of people get their messages a day, right, I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: O'll tap out after two conversations, I'll talk to nobody else.

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Speaker 1: But they're talking to somebody and they're mobilizing. They're like,

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Speaker 1: what if we have the algorithm and get all the

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Speaker 1: tickets to this event so when they show up it's

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Speaker 1: empty or they have to cancel it. Like they are

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Speaker 1: mobilized and able to do this and they're finding so

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Speaker 1: much more information. Yeah, ebany I totally agree. And just

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Speaker 1: to piggyback, we do it. We produce this series in

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Speaker 1: spite of, in spite of the rogue blocks, in spite of,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the naysayers. We are going to get

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Speaker 1: this content to gen Z and all of the young

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Speaker 1: Adels who needed. My last question for you both is this,

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Speaker 1: I am a person as people who know who listen

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Speaker 1: to will gay up. I am ye of little faith, right,

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Speaker 1: I try to carry around a mustard seed of hope,

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Speaker 1: right Um? That that that I you know that I

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Speaker 1: want to believe that even though the work that I

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Speaker 1: am doing and others are doing, and you all are doing,

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Speaker 1: we may not see the benefits of this right like

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Speaker 1: what we are pushing for because we are being pushed

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Speaker 1: back um, and that we're being pushed back into you know,

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Speaker 1: archaic times, right. And so I want to know what

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Speaker 1: keeps each of you hopeful? Right? Um? How do you

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Speaker 1: remain hopeful in the work that you are doing at

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Speaker 1: a time when it feels like our backs are literally

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Speaker 1: being pushed back up against the wall and that we're

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Speaker 1: fighting for our lives. I think what keeps me hopeful

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Speaker 1: is knowing that it's not just about me. For my

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Speaker 1: generation creating content, storytelling that speaks directly to gen Z,

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Speaker 1: it's bigger than me. This is passien Z. This is

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Speaker 1: the newer generation of someone thought enough of my generation

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Speaker 1: to do something to stand in the gap of what

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Speaker 1: I didn't learn as a kid or in school. And

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Speaker 1: so what I think is, you know, that's our job.

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Speaker 1: That is our job to educate, empower and uplift the

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Speaker 1: next generation so that they have a foundation, a secure

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Speaker 1: foundation to follow off. I love that of me, and

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Speaker 1: so I think for me, it's one I'm passing it

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Speaker 1: forward in my own seed. Right. I selfishly decided to

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Speaker 1: have kids, and my kids directors caused my kids, the

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Speaker 1: sex educators of the classroom. Right, So they're like, mom

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Speaker 1: was pregnant. They're like, oh, you having a brother or sister.

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Speaker 1: And my middle child goes, well, they haven't told us yet.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, and I'm yes, amazing, right, and the

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Speaker 1: oldest one does it has a paenis, Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what else you need to know? It has a penis, right,

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Speaker 1: And so we're pushing it forward that way, but also

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Speaker 1: knowing that we've always been here, right, Yes, with the suicide, Yes,

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Speaker 1: with the depression, Yes, with the anxiety, which since the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: mental health needs to have skyrocketed. But they're also being met.

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Speaker 1: People are actually reaching out to other queer therapists like myself,

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Speaker 1: right to other networks as well. But We've always been here,

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Speaker 1: We've always survived, and we're still doing that and we're

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Speaker 1: still leading. Right, Black trans women are leading movements, Black

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Speaker 1: queer women are leading movements that I'm gonna stop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love that that we've always been here and we're

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Speaker 1: always going to be here. Lastly, I could, I could, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it could talk to the both of you for another

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Speaker 1: half hour. I'm so appreciative of the work that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm so appreciative of the spirit that you bring to

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Speaker 1: the work that you're doing. And for those that want

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Speaker 1: to get in connection, to get in contact to watch

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Speaker 1: the series, please tell them how they can follow you

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Speaker 1: and find Queer Ed. Of course, Queer sex Ed premieres

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Speaker 1: on October nineteenth. You'll find it on gets Better dot

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Speaker 1: org also our YouTube channels. Just type it it gets Better.

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Speaker 1: We're on all the social networks that it gets Better

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Speaker 1: and doctor Lex how would folks? Can you mentioned the TikTok?

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, so tell us what it is? Oh

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Speaker 1: so yeah, So I am Lex Ellie x x s

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Speaker 1: x DC across all platforms as well, and I will

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Speaker 1: be sharing out about it gets Better because I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud and chiefly honored to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the work and the conversations and also the little

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Speaker 1: factoids that I think everybody should know. So Lex sex

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Speaker 1: doc across our platforms and lexx dot dot com amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both doctor Lex and Ebony Mon from making

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Speaker 1: the time to join woke f and drop some knowledge

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Speaker 1: and hope for us. I really appreciate you both. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on woke F.

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Speaker 1: As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power,

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Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.