WEBVTT - The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Figuring Out Russia's Endgame with Rebekah Koffler

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot to cover on this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. There's this bombshell report that the CIA and

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<v Speaker 1>the intelligence community asked foreign spy agencies to surveil twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six associates of Donald Trump heading into the twenty sixteen election.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did they do that? What does that mean? And

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<v Speaker 1>then we also have what's going on in Europe right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the war in Ukraine. We've got the Deputy Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>Russia Security Council warning about the possibility of an accidental

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear war.

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<v Speaker 2>How would that happen? What do you need to know

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<v Speaker 2>about that?

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the House Intelligence Committee chair warning about a

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<v Speaker 1>serious national security threat. And then you've got FedEx's founder

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Smith talking on Fox News about how Russia, along

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<v Speaker 1>with a brick alliance, is working to dethrone the dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does all of this mean?

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<v Speaker 1>What should you know about what is really happening in

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and how it impacts us in the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. We're gonna have Rebecca Koffler on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had her on before. She always brings a unique

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<v Speaker 1>and interesting perspective to the show. She's a former da

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence officer and author of Putin's playbook. She's also the

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<v Speaker 1>managing editor of Cuttothnews dot com, and she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>break all of this down for you in a very

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<v Speaker 1>in depth way. Trust me, this is a fascinating interview.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna learn a lot. I know I did stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Rebecca. It's great to have you back on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's safe to say that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to cover, so I'm looking forward to hearing your

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<v Speaker 1>insight on a bunch of different topics today.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to be with you, Lisa, you and your audience today.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to start out on you know, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to what's going on in Ukraine, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get to this bombshell report that the CIA and the

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence community asked foreign spy agencies to surveil twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>associates of Donald Trump's heading into the twenty sixteen election.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that normal and what do you make of that report?

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<v Speaker 3>It should not be normal, Lisa. In fact, it is illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately, in the past several years, the intelligence community

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<v Speaker 3>has become so politicized that I am not surprised at all. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're the one who concocted the whole Trump

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<v Speaker 3>Russia collusion conspiracy theory that effectively destabilized our government for years.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because they wanted to remove Trump from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from ballot and then from his presidency. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>what happened as a result of this. You know, Russia's

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<v Speaker 3>threat has been brewing for years, and these people, instead

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<v Speaker 3>of targeting the real foreign threats, they decided to target

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<v Speaker 3>American citizens. They prioritize resources for the wrong thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>now we are in the conundrum with the world being

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<v Speaker 3>on fire because nobody bothered to a identify these threats

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<v Speaker 3>properly and be developed counter measures to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it also begs the question is our intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>community working for us or against us?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, clearly right now there's and I want to make

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<v Speaker 3>it clear that many, many good people in the intelligence community,

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated honest intelligence officers with whom I had the privilege

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<v Speaker 3>to work with. But I also encountered just like political

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<v Speaker 3>hacks that who were careers and also they were working

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<v Speaker 3>exactly like you said, against us. And that's what this

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<v Speaker 3>whole deep state is about. And you probably know from

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<v Speaker 3>my book that I myself experienced those hacks. They were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to you know, silence my book to censor, the

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<v Speaker 3>attempt to silence and censor my book put his playbook

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<v Speaker 3>in which I want about Putent's invasion of Ukraine that

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<v Speaker 3>was coming, but nobody wanted to do a thinker because

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<v Speaker 3>they were busy, you know, chasing hoaxes and targeting twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six US citizens Trump associates.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this what they have been doing or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this was more specific to Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well it is more specific to Donald Trump. Before that,

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<v Speaker 3>I never experienced this sort of situation. Yes, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a counterintelligence program within the intelligence community, obviously, because the

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<v Speaker 3>concern is always that foreign intelligence agencies would try to

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<v Speaker 3>infiltrate their own spies, their operatives, and so we're constantly

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<v Speaker 3>on the lookout to identify those. But this particular thing

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<v Speaker 3>was an a normal and now it has become normalized.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did it happen is because a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly in the CIA, particularly on the analytics side, left

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<v Speaker 3>us and the operational guys, the ones who actually go

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<v Speaker 3>in the field, they tend to be, you know, more conservative.

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<v Speaker 3>And the truth is that we're not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>partisan at all. We take like a form of an

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<v Speaker 3>oath when we join the intelligence community that we're supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to speak truth to power, how we see it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how the threat presents itself, how we're identifying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the key indicators. That's how we're supposed to report it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what happens is that some of the elements, and

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<v Speaker 3>especially those who are in charge, and we know their names, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's uh, it's James, call me, John Brennan and James Clapper.

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<v Speaker 3>They are the architects of the collusion hoaks and they

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<v Speaker 3>spent you know, a lot of resources on this. And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're Trump haters.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I guess it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Chuck Schumer did say that the you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence agencies have six ways from Sunday of getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to you, are getting back at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, went.

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<v Speaker 1>Directed at Donald Trump of saying that you know, basically

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<v Speaker 1>they'll get the revenge, and oh, exactly they have exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I want I want to nuanced a little bit something

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<v Speaker 3>of what I said. It's not just I said just

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, it's anybody who would be their political opponent. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that they targeted Taker carlst This is why

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<v Speaker 3>for three years, you know, he wasn't able to get

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<v Speaker 3>an interview with the Russian President Ladmir Putin. They actually

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<v Speaker 3>were surveying him twenty four seven. You know his communications,

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<v Speaker 3>Tucker causons. So it's other US citizens who are not

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<v Speaker 3>with the party line, who are not with the program

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<v Speaker 3>for independent thinkers, and who are actually trying to bring

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<v Speaker 3>the truth to the American people. So I wouldn't be surprised, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 3>you're quite you know, you always speak the truth to

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<v Speaker 3>your audience, so I wouldn't be surprised if you became

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<v Speaker 3>a target.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's not, let's not put that off. Leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, I know, I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>live my life.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's kind of a joke.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you hed about it, to think about it

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<v Speaker 4>as the Russians like to say, there's a joke in

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<v Speaker 4>every joke, meaning that usually jokes are based on Now

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<v Speaker 4>I'm true.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Tucker did finally, you know, he did get

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<v Speaker 1>that interview with Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you make of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And why do you think there was so much effort

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<v Speaker 1>to try to prevent that from happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I answered the second question first. The reason why,

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<v Speaker 3>especially the US government tried to prevent Tucker from doing

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<v Speaker 3>it is because Tucker, again, like I said, talker is

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<v Speaker 3>an independent thinker. He's not down with the party line.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to really get down to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>who Putin is because remember, Russia is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>top annissaries of the United States, just like China. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is actually what the intelligence community should be doing,

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to get inside Pulu's brain, and instead they

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to get inside Tuckers and Trump associates networks

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<v Speaker 3>and their brains. Right. So that's and they didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>the American people to hear what Putin has to say

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<v Speaker 3>because the Russia Ukraine issues really not simple. It's very

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<v Speaker 3>very complex, and the deep state tried to simplify it

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<v Speaker 3>Russia bad, Ukraine good. No, Putin is not a saint,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely not, but neither is z Lensky. Lensky authorizes his

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence services to interrogate Ukraine's Christian Orthodox priests. He also

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<v Speaker 3>authorizes his spy opera to grab our military age Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 3>men off the street to go serve in the military

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<v Speaker 3>because he's running of out of resources right now, right

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<v Speaker 3>And so this interview, which was by the way, two hours,

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<v Speaker 3>seven minutes and eighteen seconds, and I listened to the

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<v Speaker 3>entire thing in both languages, in Russian and in English,

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<v Speaker 3>and it reveals Putin's thinking. And Putin made a case.

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<v Speaker 3>Putin is an attorney, right, He's a trained attorney, and

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<v Speaker 3>he wants everything to at least appeal legal, and if

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<v Speaker 3>something that he wants to do is illegal, then he

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<v Speaker 3>modifies the law like he did, you know, modify the

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<v Speaker 3>Russian constitution to allow himself to continue running for presidency.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he revealed in his monologue why Russia has

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<v Speaker 3>claims on some of the lands that are now part

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<v Speaker 3>of Ukraine. Again, it's complicated, and if American people hear us,

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<v Speaker 3>that would make them think, oh, Putin actually has a

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<v Speaker 3>point on some of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to take a quick commercial break. More with

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Kaufler on the other side, do you think from

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<v Speaker 1>listening to it, because obviously the argument of sending money

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<v Speaker 1>to Ukraine and being involved in, you know, helping Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>defend itself against Russia is that, well, if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>help Ukraine, Russia is going to expand beyond those borders.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get the sense from this interview is that

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<v Speaker 1>what Putin has on his mind, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what was your sense about where Putin views this war

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<v Speaker 1>with Ukraine, his standing in the world, and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>what his broader ambitions currently are.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, while this interview just confirmed my previous and these analysis,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is no, Putin does not have any designs

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<v Speaker 3>on the Baltics, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, on Poland, god forbid.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh here's why not Only like Tucker said, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>need those lands. He has enough trouble on his hands

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<v Speaker 3>managing Russia. But also from the strategic uh standpoint, those countries,

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<v Speaker 3>Poland and the Baltics are part of NATO. Putin is

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<v Speaker 3>not an idiot, nor he's suicidal. Attacking one of those

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<v Speaker 3>countries would trigger Article five collective defense and NATO is

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<v Speaker 3>conventionally superior than Russia. What does it mean that when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to the kinetic conflict, Russia couldnot possibly win

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<v Speaker 3>if it had a direct confrontation or war with the

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<v Speaker 3>United States unless it takes the war into the nuclear realm.

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<v Speaker 3>Putin does not want to do that because that would

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<v Speaker 3>be effectively, you know, world War three, the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the world. And again, he's a rational human being, and

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<v Speaker 3>so now and those people who claim, like Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 3>and all of those, you know, professional liars who want

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<v Speaker 3>to gine up additional billions for Ukraine so that those

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<v Speaker 3>of Ukraine and all doxk are not spend it on

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<v Speaker 3>buying their larger yards and whatever and bigger mentions. Those

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<v Speaker 3>people are illogical because on the one hand they've been

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<v Speaker 3>marking the Russian military about its incompetent performance. On the

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<v Speaker 3>other hand, they claim that is going to go after

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<v Speaker 3>a NATO country, Well, what is it? It can be both, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So they speak out of both sides of their mouth

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<v Speaker 3>because there's they just have ulterior motives when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what what do you make of House Intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>Committee Chair Mike Turner has been talking about a serious

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<v Speaker 1>national security threat?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 1>And and why do you think he's putting that out there?

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<v Speaker 3>I was stunned, Lisa, when I heard this, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>basically dominating the airwaves, and my phone was ringing off

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<v Speaker 3>the hook. You know, people were asking what do you

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<v Speaker 3>make of it? What do you make of it? First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, it is irresponsible for him to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. It was also curious why he decided

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about this type of situation, and I'll give

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<v Speaker 3>you and your listeners my fresh of the process, so

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<v Speaker 3>to speak, intelligence analysis on what is exactly the threat

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<v Speaker 3>that Journey is talking about. And my intelligence reveals to

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<v Speaker 3>me that it's about the recent launch of a hypersonic

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<v Speaker 3>cruise missile called Tirkon. Tirquon was developed specifically on Pun's orders.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hypersonic missile that serves as a counter to

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<v Speaker 3>US ballistic missile defense because the United States exited the

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<v Speaker 3>A b M Treaty and now that the two countries

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<v Speaker 3>are in a proxy war over the control of Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 3>which Russia perceives as it's part of its strategic security

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<v Speaker 3>parameter kind of part of the It's similar to US

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<v Speaker 3>Monroe doctrine. I mean, we wouldn't allow Russia China to

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<v Speaker 3>get as close as Mexico or Canada, and so of

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<v Speaker 3>course Pool, you know, Ukraine is a red line for him,

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<v Speaker 3>and so these weapons were being built for a few

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<v Speaker 3>years now. And I'm actually one of the people who

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<v Speaker 3>did brief Mike Turner's staff when I was at the

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<v Speaker 3>Defense Intelligence Agency on hypersonics. And interestingly, you know, nobody

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do anything about it. And in fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, our own pentergon, has yet to field our

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<v Speaker 3>own capability, even though China and Russia are way ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of us. And so all of a sudden turner decided

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<v Speaker 3>to reveal this, which really really smells specially to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what he's trying to do is basically gin

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<v Speaker 3>up additional billions for Ukraine. And now that you know

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<v Speaker 3>Senate has passed the bill, you know, uh, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to continue or they're trying to continue milking the I

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<v Speaker 3>as taxpayer for more foreign aid, as though this additional

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<v Speaker 3>billions can do something that two hundred billions haven't done already.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's what is to me, it's all about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's again, it's a shameful politicization of intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the danger of hypersonic weapons.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the danger. Hypersonic weapons are very fast and they

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<v Speaker 3>are highly maneuverable, and what that means is that our

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<v Speaker 3>missile defenses protecting the United States from missile strikes would

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<v Speaker 3>have a really hard time intercepting those. In fact, Putin

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<v Speaker 3>has said many many times that so Gone is capable

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<v Speaker 3>of penetrating BMD that Putin will never authorize an attack

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<v Speaker 3>on the United States, either kinetic, whether it's with hypersonic

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<v Speaker 3>weapons or with nuclear weapons, unless and this is the

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<v Speaker 3>very important point, unless the Russian intelligence detects the United

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<v Speaker 3>States either has launched or is about to launch, either

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<v Speaker 3>a kinetic strike on Russia or non kinetic but crippling

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<v Speaker 3>strike on Russia, or in some other way crossed the

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<v Speaker 3>red line. For example, something like retaking or an attempt

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<v Speaker 3>to retake Crimea that Russia views as Russian having an exit,

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<v Speaker 3>or retaking some part of Ukraine that the Russian forces

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<v Speaker 3>currently control. Only in that case would authorize something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>But again, it wouldn't be a bolt out of the

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<v Speaker 3>blue sky. That will be what we call an intelligence

0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 3>community escalation ladder. And this is what I Putin has

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<v Speaker 3>been telegraphing to us by via cyber attacks, via all

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<v Speaker 3>of these warnings. This is the red line. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a red line. Don't do it, don't send weaponry to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>So we would have plenty of time to think about

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<v Speaker 3>the problem is, Lisa, is that it seems like our

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence and security operon us, and more importantly, our president

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<v Speaker 3>as simply incapable of realistically assessing our adverstories and their mindset,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as our own resources. We have depleted our

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<v Speaker 3>own weapons, arsenal. We are depleting our own treasury by

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<v Speaker 3>throwing good money after bed, good weaponry after bed to

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine for nothing. And so now we could be defenseless

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<v Speaker 3>because of the idiotic decisions that the Biden administration has made.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one other thing that you know concerned me

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<v Speaker 1>is something that FedEx's founder of Fred Smith said the

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<v Speaker 1>other day on Fox about how Russia is working to

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<v Speaker 1>dethrone the dollar, using the Brick Alliance to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Brick is you know, Brazil, Russia, India, and China as

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<v Speaker 1>well as South Africa. I believe there's other countries like

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt to Ethiopia, Rod, Saudi Arabia and the Amaraates as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what should people know about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that seems like it should be getting more

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<v Speaker 1>attention than it has been.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yes, and then fact I wrote a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>months ago a piece on New York Post about that,

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<v Speaker 3>about the bricks and basically the de dollarization trend. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>the crux of the match, Lisa, is that our own

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the so called expert right, the Washington establishment

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<v Speaker 3>have sort of driven our advisors into to this point

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<v Speaker 3>to start de dollarizing by using our fiat currency, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the US, the mighty US dollar, as a weapon, by

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<v Speaker 3>placing sanctions on, you know, on foreign countries. Yes, Putain

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<v Speaker 3>could be you know, a bad you know, human being,

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible human being. You know whoever chopped up the

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<v Speaker 3>Russian post uh journalist, the SHORGI Uh, those people are

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<v Speaker 3>also you know, terrible people. But if you are trying

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, chop the branch of the tree on

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<v Speaker 3>which you're sitting, I think it might be a Russian program.

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<v Speaker 3>There is such a thing in English. By digging your

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<v Speaker 3>own hole, then you only have yourself to blame. And

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<v Speaker 3>sanctions never worked. I mean right now, the Russian economy

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<v Speaker 3>is doing very well because it was propped up by

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<v Speaker 3>the defense industrial complex. Because Russian actually, unlike NATO and

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<v Speaker 3>like the United States, transitioned. Oh a, what I'm putting

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 3>years before the invasion. And I actually briefed also the

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<v Speaker 3>White House, Congress, the Pentagon, NATO about that. There's something

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<v Speaker 3>called the special period that triggers the transition of the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the sanctions never worked, So why did we

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<v Speaker 3>do that? And so the third order consequence. That's another

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<v Speaker 3>term we're using the intelligence business, is that by using

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<v Speaker 3>dollar as a weapon, we are uh diminishing our own

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<v Speaker 3>economy and basically eliminating the breast of the future for our

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 3>own country. Because people are not stupid right right now,

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<v Speaker 3>even India is kind of reluctant to use the US dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly China and Russia they have been de dollarizing the

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<v Speaker 3>economy and that will have very severe consequences in a

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<v Speaker 3>few years for the United States. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and of those consequences, Fred Smith said that if

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<v Speaker 1>bricks is successful in this deliberate course to dethrone the dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>if that happens, we can't sell our bonds. I can

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<v Speaker 1>assure you the living standards that we all enjoy today

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be a thing of the past, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty damning and scary thing to say. Quick

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<v Speaker 1>break more in Russia, Deputy Secretary of Russia's Security Council

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<v Speaker 1>told a Russian newspaper recently that the risk of quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote accidental nuclear war breaking out has risen sharply. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the factors mentioned were the health of Defense Sectory

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Austin, as well as Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you read that? Do they want that out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean anything?

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<v Speaker 3>And okay, it does, it definitely does. Here's what Putin

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<v Speaker 3>means and just again, or rather patrushev right, So it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that Putin is getting ready to launch a nuke,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in the United States. The only reason, like I

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 3>said earlier, that would happen. So we talked about hyperstonics.

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<v Speaker 3>Now when it comes to nukes, the Russian doctrine calls

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<v Speaker 3>for the use of tactical nukes in the event let's

0:24:55.560 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 3>say that Putin word to lose Ukraine or like we

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 3>were to try to retake Crimea. That's the that's the

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 3>case scenario. But what Patrusha likely meant was this, As

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 3>everybody is already aware, Iran is in a shadow war

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 3>against our country. I mean, they've launched close to two

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 3>hundred attacks right now on US forces, causing brain damage

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 3>to our personnel. And so why and yet the Biden

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 3>administration has conducted only pinprick attacks, not even on Iran,

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<v Speaker 3>that is the center of gravity for all of that mainness,

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<v Speaker 3>but only on Iranian process the who sings. So Biden

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<v Speaker 3>has not established what we call escalation control dominance. None

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<v Speaker 3>of our strikes have really deterred Iranians. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>The reason in my intelligence assessment is this around is

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<v Speaker 3>dangerously close to operationalizing their nuclear capability. How Uh well,

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<v Speaker 3>there there are various schools of godenness. One of the assessments, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>a very credible assessment says that it's within It was

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<v Speaker 3>like several weeks ago. It was within a week. So

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<v Speaker 3>for all intents and purposes, I do not rely the

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<v Speaker 3>possibility that they do have already a viable nuclear weapon

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<v Speaker 3>and within a month they will be capable of producing

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<v Speaker 3>I believe. Let me see if I can remember this

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<v Speaker 3>six warheads, right, I think they have sufficient weapons grade

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<v Speaker 3>uranium to both six warheads and then in five months twelve. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>compared to Russia, which has six thousand nuclear weapons, it's nothing.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 3>But you only need a couple to read have a

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 3>right and once And on top of that, the Iranians

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 3>just launched a satellite called Soraya that went into the

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 3>highest orbit ever. Right, and this is what the capability

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 3>that they use. You have to have a heavy leaf

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 3>capability in order to launch in a CBM and intercontinental missile. Right,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 3>So they're developing those capabilities rapidly. And on top of that,

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:52.479
<v Speaker 3>Iran and Russia are now allied, and Russia is the

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:57.719
<v Speaker 3>world's leader in space launch. Russia is the world's leader

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 3>in nuclear nohow, Russia's nuclear arsenal even beats ours, especially

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to tactical nukes. And so, uh, this

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 3>is why Iran is very arrogant right now. And and

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 3>once it does have nuclear weapons, it's going to be

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 3>almost impossible to compel them to stop this low grade

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 3>uh destabilization and shadow war on our country.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know you previously have said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Russia is not suicidal when it comes to nuclear weapons,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>is iron.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Iran is a different character, uh, Lisa, Russia is not

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 3>driven by ideology. Putin is is a realist. Uh, He's

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 3>a rational human being. He just simply wants to make

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 3>sure that Russia has its strategic security perima because with

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 3>the collapse of the same that union, the distance between

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 3>NATO and Russia has reduced from one thousand miles to

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>one hundred miles. Right as I said before, no say

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Mility commander would allow this type of proximity to risk.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>So Pudines is not amendment but the Ayad told us

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 3>they are driven by completely different ideology. They are fanatics,

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and if you read any of the writings, you know

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 3>they've said it many, many, many times that the United

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<v Speaker 3>States is anathema. It's basically the devil. We are the

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 3>big devil in Israel as the little devil in quotes,

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>and they would stop at nothing to drive the United

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 3>States out of the Middle East. But even more frighteningly, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 3>than nukes is the fact that our audience have been developing,

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 3>according to US intelligence assessment, networks within US homeland. Okay,

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 3>why do you think we pay millions of dollars and

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>provide security to might compare on some of his former

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Trump administration staff who were working against Iran. It's because

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 3>they are being targeted. And now that our border is

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>completely wide open, Iran, as well as Russia and China

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>have been flowing thousands of intelligence operatives into the country

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>so that the sleeper cells when the time comes, they

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 3>can activate them. And that is the most frightening thing

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 3>to me. The nukes, yes, it is frightening, But if

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 3>our missile defense system cannot protect us from twelve nukes,

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 3>you know that around will will have in five months,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 3>let's just say then, what good it is? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>then we might as well just pack up and go home,

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 3>right because Russia has six thousand. So I would be

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>more concerned right now about the internal threat. And this

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>is why Christopher Ray, the f VI director, recently basically

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>suggested that it's not a matter of if, but when

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 3>there will be another terrorist attack.

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sad because you know, we did it to

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>ourselves with open borders, and it didn't have to be

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that way, and it wasn't that way before. And you know,

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden his administration shows this path that they've now

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>put us on, and you know, there'll probably be repercussions

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>as you just painted the picture for us, We've got

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to go to commercial sit tight. How incahoots are Iran,

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Russia in China? You know, obviously they're each looking to

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>destabilize different regions of the world and to you know,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>conquer more territory or at least you know, attack enemies

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>like Iran has been doing with Israel v uh their proxies.

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<v Speaker 1>How much coordination do you think is going behind the

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>scenes with those countries.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I'll address the Russia China relationship. First, it is

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>not a true strategic alliance the way that Putin and

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>GMP one of portray uh their partners. But they're more

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like of a marriage of convenience. What drives them is

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 3>they're like a lot of marriages, so so they are.

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<v Speaker 3>What unites them is their hostility towards the United States

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 3>and the perception that the United States is their threat

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<v Speaker 3>number one, but in reality Russia perceives China as threat

0:32:55.200 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 3>number two? Why is that? And alluded to that although

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 3>you kind of had to be uh, have to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to read between the lines when he said what

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 3>he talked and talk about it was very interesting to me. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Putin dominated the most of the discussion, and he was

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>very relaxed and and very kind of full of himself.

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 3>But the one question that Putin visibly got really not angry,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 3>but I could tell like his entire demeanor has changed

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 3>and he got kind out close to Taka's space is

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 3>when the question that asked was about China, and Putin

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>UH basically said, China is has been developing economically and

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<v Speaker 3>nearly tarily by leaps and bands and I'm paraphrasing. He

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 3>didn't use that specific words, but and so China is

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 3>even a bigger threat to the United States than Russia.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 3>And there are two schools of that are not an

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 3>intelligence community. But that is the reason uh why Putin,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 3>as he told Tuka for years, try to uh be friends,

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 3>if you will, with NATO and with the West. To

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 3>the point ways well Clinton, whether Russia could join NATO,

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>it is because they wanted to offset the China threat.

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Russia has a huge border with China. The Chinese are

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 3>acutely aware that uh the economy trump Russia's economy, and

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 3>they've been infiltrating uh their population uh to the far

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 3>eastern border to Russia. Right, because Russia has a lot

0:34:55.640 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 3>of natural resources and and China doesn't, or China that

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 3>has different resources. Right. So in that sense, they don't

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 3>have a specific very tight coordination. But if let's say,

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 3>uh they want to challenge the US and the two

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 3>theater war, they could coordinate that, right Uh. China attacks Taiwan,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Russia is writing up the ante in Ukraine. We're already

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>spread out. Then you know that they could do. But

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 3>it's not like their bodies and they share intelligence and

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 3>they trust each other. Iran is a different story with Russia.

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>And Russia right now is flowing assistance both from China

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 3>and from Iran to help them prosecute the campaign UH

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine. And so again they don't coordinate tightly with Iran,

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 3>but if they can stage something that would challenge the

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>United States spread our resources even and unbalanced Washington, that

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 3>they could do. And clearly, all of these foreign annastories,

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 3>they're acutely aware of President Biden's cognitive and mental decline,

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 3>and that could embolden somebody like Aroan to pop a

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 3>nuke in order to discorient us even further.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of articles recently about how Ukraine is

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>struggling to counter Russia's advances on the battlefield on land,

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>but they're having success at sea with things like naval drones.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean for the broader war in Ukraine

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and where does that stand today?

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<v Speaker 3>So the war is right now in a deadlog basically,

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 3>and my analysis has always been and it remains that

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 3>there's no military path to victory for Ukraine. It is

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 3>simply mathematically impossible. And the reason being is Russian military.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Despite all the propaganda that you hear from the Washington

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>establishment and the legacy media, Russia is considered by the

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Pentagon as a near peer competitor. It has the second

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 3>best military in the world, right and so they also

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 3>have the population three times more than Ukraine. The Russians

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 3>have about between one hundred and forty three and one

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 3>fifty right now million. Ukrainians have forty three million. Right.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 3>So the war of attrition is what Putin is waging

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 3>right now, and you can fight until the last Ukrainian

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 3>And right now the average age of Ukrainian soldier is

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 3>forty three and its rising. And the health of Ukrainian

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 3>men is very different than than Americans, let's say. And

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 3>so Ukrainians are almost out of AMMO there rationing AMMAL

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 3>right now, the front lines have not really changed like

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 3>in the past year. I think less than maybe five

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 3>miles or so, I need to double check has changed hands.

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's just the killing is continuing. The Ukrainian land

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 3>is now devastated. Ukraine is ceasing to exist as a

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>viable country because we are providing not only weaponry, but

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 3>also we're providing salaries to their civilian personnel, to the

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 3>entire government, right tensions, et cetera. And so after we

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>cut off our aid, if the aid is not approved.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Ukraine is basically on the verge of collapse. Its critical

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 3>infrastructure is destroyed, it's agricultural base is demolished, and the

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 3>country is depopulated a quarter of a million, almost a

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 3>quarter of a million. It's approaching the number of dead

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 3>or severely wounded Ukrainian man is the casualty toll. And

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I think Joe Biden has the Ukrainians blood on his

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 3>hands by just prolonging, prolonging this war. And it's the

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 3>biggest tragedy.

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's obviously a funding fight on Capitol Hill

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>about money going to Ukraine. Well, more money and weapons

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>changed the outcome for Ukraine, because you know, that's the

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 1>argument that a lot of people are making right now.

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not. I mean, look, we have already provided or

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>committed to provide on the of two hundred billion. What

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 3>do you think another sixty or however many billion will

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 3>do that two hundred didn't do. And on top of that,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>we don't have the production capacity to continue pumping out

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 3>military hardware to supply to Ukraine, right, and neither do

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the Europeans and so But put on the other hand,

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 3>like I said, he transitioned to his economy on the

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 3>what I'm putting in about twenty fifteen, and they have

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 3>no problem producing these kinetic military hardware that is required.

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 3>And now, what he also demonstrated with the recent launch

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 3>this kaypersonic missile is that Ukrainians air defenses are going

0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 3>to have a very hard time with the wistard corn

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 3>And basically putting his signaling right now is that it's

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 3>time to come to the negotiating table because for all

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 3>intents and purposes, this war is already done. It's ended.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Ukraine has lost, Russia has won by virtue of having

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 3>a different definition of victory. Put in, his definition of victory

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 3>was redline of Ukraine being part of NATO. He has

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 3>achieved that because as long as Ukraine is divided, there's

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>no Turtle integrity and there's an ongoing military operations, it

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 3>is not eligible. And so no matter how long, and

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 3>he can sustain this war for a long time because

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 3>he just increased his defense budget seventy percent from twenty

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>twenty three to twenty twenty four. He also is mobelizing

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and seventy additional true to the maximum total

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 3>of about a million point seven and so he has

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 3>tremendous industrial militia economic capacity to continue, and Ukraine is

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 3>on the verge of collapse, and so no additional billions, unfortunately,

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>are not gonna help Ukraine.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised that Ukraine's been able to hang on

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>this long? Is this longer than you anticipated?

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 3>It is longer that I anticipated. But what I didn't

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 3>anticipate is that the United States would provide this level

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 3>of weaponry to Ukraine, because I could have never anticipated

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 3>that we would deplete our own reference arsenal to dangerous

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 3>levels like that, because right now, the production the timeline

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>for replant sing for some of these weapons systems javelins,

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 3>for example, is between eight and seventeen years. So no,

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I would never anticipate that we would do such a thing,

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 3>And that is the only reason Ukraine was able to prevail,

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, in addition to the fact that they've been really,

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>really valiant fighters, and Zelenski did not capitulate in the

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 3>very beginning, as Putin anticipated. So many people, including Pudin

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 3>and many intelligence analysts, were surprised by how good Ukraine

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 3>was able to hold on.

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.720
<v Speaker 1>So does that mean that they could surprise US further

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and be able to expel Russia.

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe. So they simply don't have the manpower.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no like I said, said the average

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 3>age is forty three now and Ukrainian intelligence services are

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 3>hunting for people. They literally grab people off the street.

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Talking about democracy. That's another you know hoax that the

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 3>media and the deep state propagated here is saying that

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Ukraine is a democracy. Nothing can be further from the truth.

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 3>But so, no, they don't have the main power, they

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 3>don't have the required Notary Hidhware, Biden never provided. He

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 3>just provided enough weaponry for to Ukraine to virtues signal

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 3>that he's doing something. But he never provided a sufficient

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.240
<v Speaker 3>amount for Ukraine to win. And there's a very specific

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 3>reason for that. If he did provide, that Putin would

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 3>bring war home to the United States, right, So Biden

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 3>knew that. Again, Biden was briefed on all of that,

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, Russian world writing strategy prudence, how Putin is

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 3>holding US homeland at risk, whether it's cyber, whether it's hypersonics,

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 3>space weapons, you name it, and a lot of other

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 3>like non kinetic means. And so Biden knew that Ukraine

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 3>could never win. The reason, the real reason, Lisa, why

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 3>the Europeans and the Washington establishment continue or wanted to

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 3>provide a weaponry is to weaken Russia's military potential because

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.399
<v Speaker 3>because the Europeans never provided for their own defense. Think

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 3>about this, Only eleven countries right now, eleven NATAL members

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 3>out of thirty one pay or even on track to

0:45:56.120 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>pay two percent of their gross domestic product towards the defense.

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 3>So they basically have been freeloading on us. And then

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 3>they decided that they're just going to use Ukrainians as

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 3>me to throw in Putin's meat grind. This is why

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Boris Johnson went to Kiev right several months after the

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 3>invasion and talked Zelenski out of negotiating with Russia. It's

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>because both the United States and Needle wanted to weaken

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:40.760
<v Speaker 3>the Russian capability. But that is deeply, deeply, you know, immoral,

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 3>because as I said, quarto over million of Ukrainian men

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 3>are are now out of commission.

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 2>Before we go.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of end deal and the war deal do

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you think Putin would be amenable to or would actually

0:46:59.320 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>agreed to.

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Point yes, So here's my analysis on that. So Putin

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 3>clearly wants to negotiate. It's very clear from Tekkausm's interviews,

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:14.400
<v Speaker 3>but it's not going to be a cake walk for us.

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 3>In the beginning of this war, or like a few

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 3>months into it, my assessment was that Wudn't could just

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 3>be happy with the twenty percent that that that he

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 3>got right, and but now he feels emboldened. My analysis

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 3>is that he wants to settle on his terms, which

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 3>would be Primeer will remain Russian, and he would want

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 3>the West to recognize premiers Russian. The twenty percent that

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 3>of the Dombas, the bar he uh annexed, they want

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:02.359
<v Speaker 3>that too, but they also want to RECOGNI. They want

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 3>the West to recognize them legally, like legally bound agreement

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 3>not to allow Ukraine to be part of Natal. So

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 3>he wants those guarantees and probably the removal of the sanctions.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 3>My assessment is that none of it is acceptable to

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Washington or to Brussels, and so therefore the war will

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 3>likely continue.

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's.

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Sad to hear. Rebecca Coefler. Appreciate you taking the time

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to come on the show and bring all this insight

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to us. Always fascinating stuff. I always learned so much

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>from you. I really appreciate you making the time for us.

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, Lisa. And if I may mention

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<v Speaker 1>Well there you go, guys, go sign up for that. Rebecca,

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you making the time. Really do you always learn

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<v Speaker 1>so much?

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you Lisa. That was Rebecca Koffler.

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate her taking the time to bring her insight and

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>her background to talk about all this stuff. Obviously a

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>lot going on in the world, so always good to

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.959
<v Speaker 1>hear someone's insight who has an expertise in the matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Until next time,