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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by

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Speaker 1: Bett MGM. This is the group of five Deep Dive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mike Caliberys joined by Mike Ianello and Stucky. We

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Speaker 1: are breaking down the mac The Mid American is here

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Speaker 1: a conference that for the first time is divisionless, So

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into how that impacts who were

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Speaker 1: picking here to be in the title game. But when

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Speaker 1: it comes to continuity the rest of the way, it's

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Speaker 1: been the same team since twenty sixteen once they kicked

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Speaker 1: out UMass, so we like that level of continuity. Also,

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Speaker 1: eleven of the twelve head coaches back. There's tons of

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Speaker 1: roster turnover. As we've gone through all these G five previews,

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Speaker 1: so many teams get decimated, so when there is a

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Speaker 1: decent amount of top twenty five production returning. We like

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Speaker 1: to highlight that the MAC, though, has been basically the

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Speaker 1: same in terms of their postseason play for years fourteen

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Speaker 1: and fifteen, in the past five years in Bowl season,

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Speaker 1: But that's not why we love them. We love them

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Speaker 1: because of those Tuesdays and Wednesday nights, the maction, the

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Speaker 1: wild play within these this conference, the rivalries that have

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Speaker 1: built up over the years. So before we get into it,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put this to you first, Ianello. The

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Speaker 1: fact is we've lost a little bit of the coaching luster.

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Speaker 1: This used to be a springboard to bigger jobs in

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Speaker 1: the Power conferences. You had Brian Kelly going from Central,

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Speaker 1: get it. At least at the time, it seems like

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Speaker 1: his career. He stalled out a bit at Minnesota, Lance

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Speaker 1: Leepold going to Kansas having great success there, at least

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Speaker 1: by Kansas standards. Are you surprised a little bit that

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Speaker 1: the coaching carousel has slowed down to the MAC or

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Speaker 1: you just appreciate the fact that we have continuity at

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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised because I feel like in general, the

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Speaker 4: MAC has kind of slid further and further down the

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Speaker 4: I feel like the talent level in the MAC is

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Speaker 2: What day of the week you play? So yeah, the

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Speaker 2: I think perfectly illustrates that the talent that they've lost.

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Speaker 2: What a couple of years ago, this team was on

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Speaker 2: mostly Power four teams. Look no further than Curtis or

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Speaker 2: if their quarterback who went to Indiana, like anyone who

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Speaker 2: to see the MAC fall more and more behind. Just overall, however,

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Speaker 2: So the pods are Acro in Buffalo and Kent state

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Speaker 2: But I grew with I know a conference as a

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Speaker 2: Action will always be a special part of my heart.

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Speaker 1: Are you serious? Get out to love it? So Over

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Speaker 1: the years, I've hosted many podcasts, a lot in the

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Speaker 1: tech space, and I was lucky enough to host one.

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Speaker 1: It was called Sideline Data. It was a partnership with

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Speaker 1: the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York City and

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Speaker 1: outs of the Adrian Peterson reconstructive surgery doctor Riley Williams

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Speaker 1: in the same light. If you're looking for expertise, there

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Speaker 1: is no one. And I've scoured the internet. I've talked

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Speaker 1: to lots of people, I've made lots of bets on

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Speaker 1: the MAC that knows more about the MAC than Sucky.

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Speaker 1: So there's two things that you need to know. First,

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Speaker 1: the MAC Manifesto comes down in the preseason, which he

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Speaker 1: writes every single year. That's the bible, and then it

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Speaker 1: gets updated. When do you usually drop that during the season?

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Speaker 2: Stuck mid season, right before the conference play starts, so

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Speaker 2: I could talk about all these teams for forever. We

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Speaker 2: these ahead of time. And if you're watching the YouTube,

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Speaker 2: make sure that's subscribbling. You haven't welcome to the new channel.

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Speaker 2: But with the MAC specifically, like I won't lock in

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Speaker 2: more pertinent now what's always been a problem in the

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Speaker 2: to play just horrendous non commits and then they're just

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Speaker 2: There's a good chance of injuries in those games. Western Michigan,

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Speaker 2: They start at Wisconsin out Ohio State. So those are

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Speaker 2: Max's always been my first love.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the defending MAC champs, the Miami Ohio

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Speaker 1: RedHawks eleven and three last year, seven and one in

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Speaker 1: through last year. They win their fourth MAC title in

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Speaker 1: for eighth nationally. Special teams were special. Graham Nicholson won

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Speaker 1: He also has been a quarterback that when he's on

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Speaker 1: What happens again when he plays The offense is good,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned the start of the schedule too, with Northwestern,

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Speaker 4: to go because they're not. There's no easing with an

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Speaker 4: you cashed a nice eight fifty ticket, So hopefully you

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Speaker 4: guys listen to that. You mentioned the key pieces they lost,

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Speaker 4: Amos Larva, Dane Caden Willard on the defense. I mean,

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Speaker 4: no loss bigger than gambling Heisman finalist Graham Nicholson. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bill Conley from ESPN likes to point out that Martin

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Speaker 3: And your journey into the MAC Championship emotionally, what are

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Speaker 1: Brought him every question me.

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Speaker 2: You will rarely ever see me buy the favorite in

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Bowling Green seven and six last year,

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Speaker 2: it for the first time in nine years.

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00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you Calbury's this is who I had

431
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 4: written down as my pick to win the conference in

432
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 4: my future. There are seven ones out there which I like. Yeah, well,

433
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 4: I'm not over the moon with Bezlac. This is a

434
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 4: guy who's this is a sixth season starting after three

435
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: in the SEC one in the Big Ten, and his

436
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 4: big issue was just turnovers, and you saw he was

437
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: able to cut down the turnovers last season twelve touchdowns,

438
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 4: just seven interceptions. But he threw just one interception over

439
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 4: the last six games. They really came early on. You

440
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 4: mentioned Camden North got time. He's also back, so that

441
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 4: does provide depth, something that the MAC always needs. I'm

442
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 4: not sure when the last time a Matt quarterback started

443
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 4: twelve games. They do lose their top two receivers, but

444
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 4: they bring in transfers from Kent State and Auburn to

445
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: fill those holes, so I'm not super worried about that.

446
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 4: And yeah, the defense was twelfth in the country in

447
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 4: past defense last year. They returned six starters, including cornerback

448
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 4: Jordan Oladokun safety Darius Lorefils, so those are two really

449
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 4: key pieces back on the defense. The entire defensive line

450
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: is back. Demetrius Hardiman is back at linebacker after he

451
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 4: missed most of the season with an injury, and Basil,

452
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 4: like himself, was playing through an injury for most of

453
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: the year, so we saw him kind of get into

454
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: a different zone halfway through the through the season. Yes,

455
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 4: the competition wasn't great, but they finished five to one

456
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: with a They had a one point loss to Toledo.

457
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 4: They were right there in that game. Yeah, this is

458
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: a guy with forty college starts under his belt. I

459
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: just think Bezla's the best quarterback of the bunch. Last

460
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: season was their highest scoring season for Bowling Green since

461
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, so I like what they'd bring back. They

462
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 4: started the year at Fordham. Yes, then they'll get fed

463
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: to Penn State and A and M, but the max

464
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: slate's pretty manageable after that. If I'm looking to fade

465
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 4: Miami Ohio, I'm gonna take Bowling Green to do it.

466
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 2: They also get to play Drew Aller week two, so

467
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: that should be good to build confidence for that defense.

468
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't even believe that.

469
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: I thought this shifts twel Ridge.

470
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: That can't be down. I can't so that go overran

471
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: All said, I don't know. So I we're sharing a

472
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: lot of love the Bowling Green. I will say they.

473
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: I just said that that cluster teams you want to

474
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: focus on Western Michigan, Northern Illinois, bul and Green. Bowling

475
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: Green hosts both, so that could be a big topper.

476
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: But back end of the defense. Look, you lose Anders,

477
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: you lose Ferguson at Nickel, who I loved, You lose

478
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: Husky at corner, Aludicon returns he's a stud. You do

479
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: add Brown from Northern Illinois. I like their safety, but

480
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: there's some more questions in the back end and can

481
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: they keep up that you know, turnover generating ways. I

482
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: know that's like their style and they're going to go

483
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: after the quarterback tackles for loss create havoc. The wide

484
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: receiver definitely is a concern of mine. You know, you

485
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: mentioned the transfers that they brought in after losing their

486
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: top three receivers. They have twelve career starts, so there's

487
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: definitely some questions there, and I think Tron Keith is

488
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: a look starts, a stud and Keith did a great

489
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: job coming in losing Keith's big on like he was.

490
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: He was great out of the backfield on like third

491
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: downs and did so much from them on just key downs,

492
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: catching the ball well, keeping the sticks moving. So running

493
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: back death was Stork coming back from an injury, and

494
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, not having Keith there on third downs that's

495
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: definitely a concern of min But wide receiver, linebacker, you know,

496
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: one of the corner spots. Just the back end, the

497
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: defense in general is something I'm worried about and not

498
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: you know, there definitely are some special teams questions too.

499
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't fault anyone for taking you know, Bowling

500
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: Green seven to one of many of those three teams.

501
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: If you want to make a case for I don't hate.

502
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: The Ohio Bobcats went ten and three last year, six

503
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: and two in conference. They win over Georgia Southern and

504
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: the Myrtle Beach Bowl. Their win total set at six

505
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: and a half twelve to one to win the MAC

506
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten to one to make the College

507
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: Ball Playoff. In my opinion, last year was their shot.

508
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: They won ten games, but they finished six and two

509
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: in the conference. As I mentioned, they lost by ten

510
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: at Northern Illinois and fourteen at home against Miami Ohio.

511
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: They don't get to the title game. Now they lose

512
00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: without exaggeration, everyone negative twelve and then that that is

513
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: dead last in the entire country. One starter back on

514
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: each side of the ball, Spence Newinsky left of it

515
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: become the defensive coordinator at Memphis.

516
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Like that higher for Memphis by I don't know if

517
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: that's a.

518
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: Great hire for them. Yeah, that's an interesting one that

519
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: we're going to come back to, because if the Memphis

520
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: defense makes a jump, like hold on to your hat,

521
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: that team could be you know, top fifteen by the

522
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: end of the season. Unfortunately, and this is a crazy

523
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: thing to say, you win ten games in the MAC

524
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: and then it's a year zero. I think this is

525
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: a year zero situation at Syracuse, South Alabama at home,

526
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Akinunkie early Like, these are question marks for me, and

527
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: luckily we have the MAC expert to walk me through it,

528
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: because at this point there's just so many new faces.

529
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: And yes there's coaching continuity at the head coaching level,

530
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: but with one coordinator gone, like I just I don't

531
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: know how to handicap this team. I will not be

532
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: playing them early on because they have so many new pieces.

533
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: So just help me out a bit here, Stuck, How

534
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: do you start with a team breaking in twenty new.

535
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: Starters for this particular I mean it's it's all depends

536
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: on the team. But for this particular case, you bet

537
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: the under under six and a half minus one. You

538
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: can if I'm under six and a half minus one,

539
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: forty out there, fine, my favorite win total in the conference.

540
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if they got to seven wins. Maybe

541
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: you know, ball stayed at home finished the season. Maybe

542
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: that's to get Bowl eligible. But I wouldn't be shocked.

543
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: This team finished four and eight. You know, it's an

544
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: easy schedule, so there's win a lot of winnable games

545
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: on here. Morgan State acron at home, Buffalo at home

546
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: at Kent State, Eastern Michigan at home, Ball stayed at home. Right,

547
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: So like theoretically can win six seven games. But everything

548
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: that they're losing where I haven't power rated. They go

549
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: seven and zero in those games. Tapped it to them.

550
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, they lose everything. They lose their stud quarterback,

551
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: they're running back, their top six receivers, three offensive linemen,

552
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: promoted the new offensive coordinator in the spring. You know

553
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: you mentioned the defensive coordinator change in the spring. Guess

554
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: how many starts to have the wide receiver and tight

555
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: end position FBS level two two two starts. They were,

556
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, just absolutely crushed by the portal. They lost

557
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: nine of their top twelve tacklers. There's there's not much

558
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: to go on here. And then here's the thing that

559
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: they they're the team I think in the offseason is

560
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: going to drop the furthest and suffer the most from

561
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: the new landscape of college football, and some teams are

562
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: able to overcome that. I don't think Ohio is I

563
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: mean maybe the future I'm talking about for this year,

564
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: I don't think, like you look at who they brought in,

565
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: you look at who they're relying on the talent level

566
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: where they're bringing the guys from. There's just not a

567
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: lot here. Then you have some coaching changes. It's a mess.

568
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: The special teams also was horrendous last year, so you

569
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: know they're going to be in some some coin flip games.

570
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: A lot of those games that I mentioned, they'll be

571
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, small dogs or under a touchdown favorite. So yeah,

572
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: I love the under on this team. I think that

573
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of downside. There's not much upside, Like

574
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: how many more wins than seven? So like that's probably

575
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: their ceiling to me. But yeah, like I said, three

576
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: or four wins, I wouldn't be surprised. Uh it's it's

577
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: it's bleak for Ohio. I feel bad because they couple

578
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: of years ago. This is a team that I thought

579
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: was finally going to get that elusive Mac title and

580
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 2: now it might be a while. So yeah, I mean

581
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: even even at linebacker. I mean the strength of their

582
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: team last year was there was Houston and Thompson a

583
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: linebacker too. I think they were both first team All Mac.

584
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: They're gone. Your secondary is depleted, and you look at

585
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: so like, let's look at their defensive line. You lose

586
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: everyone on the defensive line too. And by the way,

587
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: you lose two of the guys you were going to

588
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: count on in the portal after the spring on the

589
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: defensive line. That hurts too. And you lost row It,

590
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, cornerback, cocks. You we're gonna rely on, Like

591
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: these are guys that left in the spring, like they

592
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: just were crushed in the spring. He gets six All

593
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: MAC players last year, they're all gone in the defensive line.

594
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: It's like, all right here you bringing in. It's like

595
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: some SCS transfers Nevada, North Dakota. There's just there's just

596
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: not not many, not much juice. So yeah, this is uh,

597
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a long season for Ohio. But they

598
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: get the ball. I was pretty sure Eastern Michigan was

599
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: an absolute circus last year. That team was so bad

600
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: and they got to a bowl and then obviously lost

601
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: by one hundred and forty four. So yeah, they could

602
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: get It's still the MAC. They could win six games

603
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: and get to a bowl. Like but uh, I don't

604
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: see any upside with Ohio not worth even considering for

605
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: a long shot and under under six and a half

606
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: even yea, eat some juice.

607
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: Eastern making a bowl game. They made Lopez look like

608
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and then Lopez followed up that bowl game

609
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: by going over thirteen at spring in the spring game.

610
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: So yea. So your point is very very well Takenello.

611
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: First worst team I've ever had power right him that

612
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: madea ble was used to miss the mess.

613
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here? Ianello on the bobs, Yeah,

614
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: you guys said it all.

615
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to pile on too much. I do

616
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: just want to add that you guys fail to mention

617
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: that the loan starter on offense who is returning is

618
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 4: legendary center Parker Titsworth. So shout out to mister Tittsworth,

619
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: get to have you back in the squad. This is

620
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: also the first season Ohio will not have a Rourke

621
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: under center since twenty sixteen, so it's definitely a new era.

622
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: Parker Navarro, Yeah, I mean, whatever looks solid. And the

623
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: one nice thing I'll say about Ohio fans who want

624
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: to kill themselves right now, Ricky Hunt was awesome. In

625
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: that bowl game, he had five total touchdowns, so he

626
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: should be the best player on this team. He'll be

627
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: fun to watch if the offensive line can kind of

628
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: not get him killed. So Ricky Hunt is kind of

629
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: your your your Ohio Bobcat to watch. But yeah, Stuck,

630
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: you mentioned the guys they plugged in, you know you

631
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: got more. I'm looking three Power five guys. You have

632
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: a receiver from Illinois and receiver from Michigan who aren't

633
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: even projected to start on this team. So who cares

634
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: running back from Northwestern who should be the backup if

635
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: not the third strength. So yeah, none of them. They

636
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: didn't really bring in any pieces to fix it. Let

637
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: me start one in three. I really liked Tim Alban,

638
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: but yeah, seven wins is a big, big ask.

639
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Speaker 5: New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia,

644
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 5: and Wyoming. Terms and conditions apply must be twenty one

645
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Speaker 5: plus gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler.

646
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's speed through another cellar dweller here in

647
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: the MAC. The Kent State Golden Flashes one and eleven

648
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: zero to eight in conference. Last year, the Winter Will

649
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: said at two and a half odds to win the

650
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: MAC one hundred and twenty to one at college football playoff,

651
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: come on, three hundred to one should be one thousand

652
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: to one, ten thousand to one. Year zero is over.

653
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: It was really rough. The offense never got out of

654
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: neutral one hundred and thirtieth in scoring just a touch

655
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: over fourteen points per game. Defense gave up nearly thirty

656
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: five per game. Kenny Burns team went winless against FBS opponents.

657
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: That's all you really need to know. They lost their

658
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: MAC games by an average of nineteen points per game,

659
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: So is there any reason for optimism? They did score

660
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: a little bit down the stretch. I'll give them that.

661
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Twenty seven against Akron nineteen, which is five points higher

662
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: than their scoring average against Bowling Green twenty seven against

663
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. Tommy Yulatowski Ulatowski had his moments four total

664
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: touchdowns against Akron two hundred and eighty four yards against

665
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Bowling Green. They really couldn't run the ball at all.

666
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: But they do have some starters back on the line.

667
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: Will they improve to be determined. Their best position group

668
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: comes with their upgrades in the secondary Xavier Cochlee and

669
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: from James Madison, Dallas Branch and from San Diego State. Winnables.

670
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: You could argue there's three winnables on the schedule. You

671
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: get Saint Francis, PA coming in, Akron and Ohio all at.

672
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Home, so Ball State too. Ball State's winnable. The craze

673
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: why you should like this team. Their wide receiver Kashan mccraye,

674
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: one of my favorite players to watch. You just pulled

675
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: me to the side and said, give me one over

676
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: to bet the mac, don't you say it? Ken stayed over?

677
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Ken stayed over.

678
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: Look.

679
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: We I just talked about Ohio. How much of a

680
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: dumpsterfy I think they're gonna be? They get them at home.

681
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: Revenge against Akron at home for the wagon Wheel game

682
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: will be electric as always. Saint Francis at home, they

683
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: get to play Drew Aller. You can't tell me that's

684
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: not winnable.

685
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm a mron.

686
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the other ones, the other ones are winnable.

687
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: I mean they have four or five winnable games on

688
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: this schedule. You have to remember. I mean, look, could

689
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: you argue they have five? It's you gonna remember still

690
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: the MAC. I would argue they have five winnable home

691
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: games Saint Francis, EMU, Ball State, Ohio, and Akron and

692
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: then at Buffalo. But I would argue that those games

693
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: are winable. Last year was a year zero first by

694
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: far for Kenny Burns. They had five returning starts on

695
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: the offensive line. Last year they started two true freshmen

696
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, three freshmen in total, got all

697
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: five starters back. You have to expect a bump there.

698
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: So I think that they're just going to be significantly

699
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: better than last year. They're still going to be a

700
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: horrendous team. But I think some of these other teams

701
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the MAC and in the middle

702
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: got worse. So yeah, I think they get to three

703
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: or four wins. Call me crazy, but I do like

704
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: some of the additions that you mentioned in the secondary.

705
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: They also have. Their punting is terrible, but the Glass

706
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: is a reliable kicker, feels like he's been around forever and.

707
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: First team All MAC and also, by the way, the

708
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: very first week we did the G five deep dive,

709
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: Glass was a big part of us hitting at least

710
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: I think it was like a six or seven leg parlay.

711
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: He missed all those field goals late against A and

712
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: M he hit both uprates got to you gotta do over.

713
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: So Glass is always in my heart. I love that kid,

714
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: and I love the trajectory going from someone screwing up

715
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: in a hilarious way and making me money to now

716
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: being All Conference. I hope the kid makes the NFL.

717
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, destal questions like you're going to pitt Tennessee and

718
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: Penn State through your first four, like can you survive?

719
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: But like the teams that I'm highest on in this conference,

720
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, Miami, Ohio, Bowling, Green Western Michigan, Toledo, Northern Illinois.

721
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: I think those are the clear top five. They avoid Toledo,

722
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois and then minam of Ohio, Bowling, Green, Western Michigan.

723
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: Not going to beat those three teams anywhow they're on

724
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: the road. So I think the schedule broke right for them,

725
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: and yeah, I project like three point three, So give

726
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: me the over on Ken State. You always need every

727
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: you need a fun, fun mac bet.

728
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we always make our fun mac bet is akron

729
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: over never fun. So I hope this one pans out

730
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: for you a lot better than the Zips did for us.

731
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: All Right, it comes down to the to the wagon

732
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: wheel game against Accer. Listen, don't lose to Saint Francis

733
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: otherwise this bet becomes very not fun very quick.

734
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 4: Arguing with Stucky about the Mac is like telling Ronald

735
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: McDonald how to make a cheeseburger. So I'm not gonna

736
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 4: say much here. I'm just gonna say I don't agree

737
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: this offense was horrific last year. Sure, maybe they've turned

738
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: three or four games into coin flip games, winnable games,

739
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 4: as you guys have been putting it, you need them

740
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: to win all I don't see it, not Rydan with

741
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: Stucky on that one.

742
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance that the ad of

743
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: Kent State just googled are there any flash based nicknames

744
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: in FBS or FCS football, and then found Saint Francis

745
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: and was like, they're gonna be our opener. We're getting

746
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: this dub in the Flash Bowl. In the opener, I

747
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: agree with Stuck that it's a must win. Game one

748
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: is a must win, particular if you have the over all. Right,

749
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: let's turn to another team that lost a lot of

750
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: games last year. I like them a little bit better.

751
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo three and nine, three and five in conference. Their

752
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: win total is two higher than Kent State at four

753
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: and a half forty two to one to win the

754
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: MAC three hundred to one to make the College Foo

755
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Ball Playoff. Linguist left left them in the lurch. The

756
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: head coach leaves to be the co DC at Alabama.

757
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: He is the only head coach in the conference who

758
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: is not returning. New head coach Pete Lembo has plenty

759
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: of MAC experience. He won nineteen games over a two

760
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: year stretch at ball State back in the day. He

761
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: also coached at Lehigh here in Pennsylvania. He's had his

762
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: moments as a head coach. He certainly isn't somebody who's

763
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: coming in who's going to be over his head running

764
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: an entire program, but he came in late in the process.

765
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: He'll be working with a new QB running back and

766
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Room. Offensive line is in good shape with

767
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: four returning starters. Offensive coordinator Dave Pannod likes to identify

768
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: a bellcal back in his previous stops at Temple Coastal

769
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: in Georgia Tech, so keep that in mind. One name

770
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on out of springball. Nick McMillan.

771
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: Big spring game at wide receiver, so I like him

772
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: a lot Now of the good stuff. In my opinion,

773
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: the defense could be really good. Sean Dolak putting his

774
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: name in the portal then pulling it back out and

775
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: deciding to come back is huge. He's a tackling machine.

776
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: Two years ago, before he got hurt, he was I

777
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: believe the either leader or second leader in the MAC

778
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: in terms of overall tackles. CJ. Bazil is a great

779
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Marcus Fuqua, a former third team All American,

780
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: returns at safety. Let's get to the schedule a little bit.

781
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: We're looking at four and a half. What are we

782
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: looking at? Winnables Lafayette, UMass, Western Kent's all at home,

783
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: plus Akron on the road, upsets at Yukon at Ohio,

784
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: ball State at home at Eastern. That seems to me

785
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of opportunities. You're never drawing dead with

786
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: this schedule to be able to put together two or

787
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: three wins at the time an upset or two. I

788
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: think that they're going to get over this number. I

789
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: think they'll flirt with Bowl eligibility because the defense can

790
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: be really good. Was I in Lewens to touch by

791
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: their recent video from their social team where they recreated

792
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: the entire opening scene for Major League and he had

793
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: all the guys coming in, one guy on a motorcycle,

794
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: DOLC coming in with his golf clubs. I loved it.

795
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 4: Here's Jay Orlando.

796
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: Is he still playing?

797
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's from Buffalo. Now he's transferred back.

798
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: John, I thought we didn't have any high priced talent

799
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 5: around here.

800
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: That's Sean Dolex. He let the nation and tackles two

801
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: years ago, but then last year he got hurt.

802
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 5: It's Mike kind of team, John, my kind of team.

803
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: I think they at least understand who they are. They

804
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 1: need to rebuild and you need to have some fun

805
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: with it. I think they are much better than what

806
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: they were last year at three and nine. This defense

807
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: I think could be top four in the MAC. And

808
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: if you were a top four defense in your conference,

809
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: a G five conference, particularly one that plays as many grimy,

810
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: low scoring, sloppy weather games in November. I like having

811
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: a good defense. We'll see if they can get this done.

812
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a shot here in the winter.

813
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: We'll go over four and a half. I'll throw it

814
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: to you first, I what are your thoughts on the

815
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: Bulls potentially having two stars at two different levels of

816
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: their defense.

817
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm trying to figure out what

818
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: list you're going off for this order, because normally you

819
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 4: go like top to bottom, and I'm.

820
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: Like, us, this is all over the place.

821
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: I keep having to foot in my notes. I'm like,

822
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 4: how the hell do we get the Kent State already?

823
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

824
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: I over a baby, that's what Ken State on the

825
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: rise got to hit them early.

826
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: It's it's not all that complicated. It's the old East

827
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: West uh divisions because I can't let them go in

828
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: my heart. But yes, that's the way we're going, as

829
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: opposed to leaving three or four dregs to talk about

830
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: all at once.

831
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned the loss of linguist, and you know,

832
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 4: I know, hiring a special teams coordinator gets stucky, all

833
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: hot and bothered. So I'm sure he's itching to talk

834
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: about that, but you know cj Agbana, he's more of

835
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: a run first quarterback, so there's kind of unknowns with that.

836
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: He had three rushing scores last year. Running backs they

837
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: are gone. They're their top leading receiver back at thirteen

838
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: catches last year. I know you said he bawled out

839
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 4: in the spring game, but still pretty inexperienced. Offense. They

840
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: do have four off its of lineman backs. I think

841
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: they'll lie have you on the run game. The defense,

842
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: it was weird where they they were twenty first against

843
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: the pass last year. You mentioned bringing back Phu Kuh

844
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: and the but they did you know there were one

845
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 4: hundred and twelve against the runs, so that was bad. Obviously,

846
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: do loc back, you know he I don't even know

847
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 4: if I always know what the transport like he transferred

848
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: to you tough stay like did he go there?

849
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: Do?

850
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: Was he on campus? And I never know how that happen.

851
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a Michael Scott situation where just yelling

852
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: I declared bankruptcy just because you say I'm going to

853
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: this place that everybody reports it like it's real news,

854
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: but like you got to be in the provost office,

855
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: you got to get your classes, you have to get

856
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: the financial lead or whatever. There's some signature required for

857
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: you to fully be at that school. So him going

858
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: out and coming back in I think is the biggest

859
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: off season story for Buffalo because he can really help

860
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: a run defense that couldn't stop anybody.

861
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know if they like it was like

862
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: the Simpsons gift where he like had one practice and

863
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 4: then change his mind. But they do lose Devin Grant

864
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 4: who transferred to s Syracuse. That was a big loss. Yeah,

865
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: I just don't really know to back Lembo has a

866
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: bunch of coaching experience, but I'll be honest, I think

867
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: this offense might be really bad. So to your point,

868
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: you do need the defense be really good. The schedule

869
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 4: is mannable manageable. So to your point, if they are

870
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: decent and the off the defense is good and Ogbona

871
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: works in this system, they could they could win five

872
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: six games. But I definitely think there's a chance. There's

873
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 4: also a chance for the worst team in the conference.

874
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: Like I think the bottom I think the floor of

875
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: this team down there. I think the floor of this

876
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: team is is low. So I think you need a

877
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 4: lot to go right, and I think there's a chance

878
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: that goes very badly, So I'm staying away.

879
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get there on the over. I mean

880
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: four and a half. You find a four and a

881
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: half heavy juice to the over, maybe you could see that.

882
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 2: I project like five two five. Who's the I mean,

883
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: who's the quarterback? I was reading something about Jack Shields

884
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: from Old Dominion. They were like, yeah, he led, He

885
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: led the monarch to because he has the only FBS

886
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: starting experience on the roster. He led. I don't know

887
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: if bon actually started the game. I don't think he

888
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: ever did. But he can't throw the ball. He can't

889
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: throw the ball. He just snaps it and runs power

890
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: Power Quarterback suite or power quarterback died? And who are

891
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: they throwing through the wide or sever bleak. But I

892
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: read somewhere it was someone like Jack Shields who led

893
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Old Dominion to a big win over Texas A and

894
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: m Commerce. They won that game ten to nine. When like,

895
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: can we slow the role on the Jack Shields? It

896
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: might be the guy I want to see Gunnard Gray,

897
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: just for his name win the job. I think he's so.

898
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: I don't know it's good. I think it's going to

899
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: be ug bonnat to start. I don't know, they might right,

900
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: but this is going to be like you're by what

901
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: looks like maybe a service Academy offense. So I mean limbo.

902
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 2: He he's been in the MAC before. He went thirty

903
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 2: three and twenty nine and five years at Ball State,

904
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: so he knows how to just take like a middling

905
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: team and get to like a bowl, which is what

906
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: you're looking here for you. But they're a hundre twentieth

907
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 2: and experience outside the top. On returning production, they lost

908
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean the defensive line too, I'm worried about.

909
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, the schedules with the joke, I mean they're

910
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: non conn they U MESSD Yukon and Lafayette and then

911
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: you also have Accron and Kent State on your schedule.

912
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: Not the Kent State's a free win this year. So

913
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: a lot of coin flips. I do think. I do

914
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: like the limbo higher. I wasn't a linguist guy, and

915
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: who would have known that linguist would fall victim to

916
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: the the dominoes that fell after Saban retired because he

917
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: got coached by Debor to coach the secondaries, which I

918
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: think he's better stuited for. But yeah, I like the

919
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: limbo higher he who I think have been more organized

920
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: and he knows special teams. Buffalo special teams have been disastrous,

921
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: and I just said, there's gonna be a lot of

922
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: coin flips, like, don't be disastrous on kickoffs, on coverage

923
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: units and all that. So maybe he can steal a

924
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: winner two just from special teams because over their last

925
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean man, over their last eight games. Yeah, definitely

926
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: their last six. I have them all within a touchdown spread.

927
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: A couple that are just you know, true coin flip.

928
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot of close games here.

929
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: They're going to try to huggle it up and make

930
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: these games shorter. So special teams lembo fixing their special

931
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: teams and making sure they're buttoned up there. We've seen

932
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan win games in this conference with less talented

933
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: teams under Chris Creighton, who just don't we don't get penalized,

934
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: Our special teams are always good, we don't turn the

935
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: ball over, and we're just buttoned up. So he can

936
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: do that, then, yeah, I like this bet, so it

937
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: would be over or nothing for me. But it's just

938
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: tough for me to put my money behind this team

939
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: with the quarterback and wide receiver situation, and it's the

940
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: only team in the conference dealing with the coaching can't change,

941
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: but it could be for the better.

942
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: We close out this little mini run of teams with

943
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: very low win totals. The Akron Zips two and ten

944
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: last year, one in seven in MAC Play. Their win

945
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: total identical to Kent State at two and a half.

946
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: Is the Zips the Mac sixty five to one to win.

947
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: If you're feeling crazy, three hundred to one. Like I said,

948
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: do not bet any of these markets. They are they

949
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: like cap them for some reason, Like it's just so

950
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: lazy for some reason. It makes me quite angry. But

951
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: these should all be like three thousand to one to

952
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: make it. We're still trying to win games with Jomo

953
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: here at Akron hasn't been going well. The defense gave

954
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: up twenty eight per game last year, but was surprisingly

955
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: good in terms of yardage allowed. They finished thirty second

956
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: in total defense in twenty second against the pass. Tim

957
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: Debsser is I mean, he's proven to be a pretty

958
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: good DC and he's back with most of his front

959
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: seven returning, so it's the same question, which is can

960
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: anything work at quarterback? But let's focus more on the

961
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: defense for a second. The secondary is the issue with

962
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: four starters needing, you know, to return in their back

963
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 1: five David Demon or Demon Dave excuse me? A foreign

964
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Blue Ship recruit from Oregon comes in safety Darien Lewis

965
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: returns in the slot at corner. This offense, like I tried,

966
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: I tried so hard in the last two years to

967
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: watch these games to finally like, will them over the

968
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: top with these incredibly low win totals. We have to

969
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: go back and check the tape. I think it was

970
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: like one and a half two for the win totals.

971
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: They lost three overtime games last year at Indiana twenty

972
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: nine to twenty seven, score at Buffalo thirteen to ten,

973
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Eastern thirty to twenty seven. So they got a new

974
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: quarterback in Ben Finley, a former NC State cal QB

975
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: comes in. Alex Adams returns at wide receiver. But the

976
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: line once again work in progress. Not great for Jomo

977
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: offense to not have continuity up front. We want to

978
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: get into it. I don't because I do not want

979
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: to go on this ride again this year. But Colgate

980
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: at Ohio Eastern at home Buffalo at home at Kent.

981
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: That is one, two, three, four, five games they I

982
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: guess potentially could win. So I'll go to you first, Dianello.

983
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Are you doing Joe Moo one more year the Penn

984
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: State love shining through? Or was your heart just broken

985
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: into a thousand pieces with those three overtime losses last year?

986
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've now reached the Ilo Glazes former Penn State

987
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: assistant portion of the podcast, which we do at every show.

988
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: I'm with you, I'm less enthusiastic as I happened in

989
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: the past. I'm doing it one more year. Ackron got

990
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: Joe mo to stick around after NFL teams are sniffing

991
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: around looking for, you know, an offensive assistant, and they

992
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: got him is to stay. And they've they just they've

993
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 4: had bad injury luck the last few years. Dj Irons

994
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: got hurt. Last year they bringing Ben Finley to give

995
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: him some stability at quarterback. We've mentioned, you know, at

996
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: the top of the show, how these these teams can't

997
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: are having trouble bringing down the Power five talent. Somehow

998
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: Akron seems to be able to do it. And I'm

999
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: not saying any of these guys are necessarily good. But

1000
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 4: you know they bring in Jordan Simmons from Michigan State

1001
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: at running back. You mentioned Alex Adams back. He's a

1002
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: former LSU transfer. He was hurt all last year, but

1003
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: he was All Conference in twenty two, so he's he's

1004
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: really talented. The defense got much better as the season

1005
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: went on. They actually finished twenty first in the country

1006
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: in passing success on defense. Yes, I know they don't

1007
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: play any good quarterbacks, but they're not going to again,

1008
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: and they bring back nearly all their best players on defense. CJ.

1009
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 4: Newley on the defensive line, and Tavius Fish and Brian

1010
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: McCoy returned that linebacker. You mentioned Lewis in the at

1011
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: corner and David coming in from Oregon and he's a

1012
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: former four star recruit. I'm concerned about the offensive tackles,

1013
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: and I'm concerned about the lack of game changing weapons

1014
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: on offense really outside of Adams. But you know, kind

1015
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: of what I was saying about Kent State, where they

1016
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: didn't look close last year. You mentioned it as almost

1017
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: a negative, which I kind of see your point, But

1018
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 4: they lost five games last year by one score or less,

1019
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 4: so to me, They're not that far off from taking

1020
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: a step forward. And yeah, the non cons brutal Ohio State, Rutgers,

1021
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: South Carolina, but colgiate Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo all

1022
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: at home, they're probably favorite, you know, four or five games,

1023
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: So to me, like you need Kent State to win

1024
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 4: three or four games as coin flip, probably underdogs, Actor

1025
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: should be favored in like four games, so then you

1026
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: get a one or two coin flip. I'm gonna do

1027
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: it one more time. Call it penns date bias. I

1028
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: think this team's more talented than their results have been.

1029
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: And I still like Joe Moore as a coach, so

1030
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over for three and a half. I'm

1031
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: doing one more time with my guy.

1032
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Jomo as someone who always watches these games stuck like

1033
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: was their defense smoking mirrors? Was it just crappy quarterback

1034
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: play or did you see some real quality and some

1035
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: high end coaching that got them into the top thirty,

1036
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: top twenty five and some of these defensive metrics.

1037
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think lot some of their past defense metrics

1038
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: were a little a little overinflated for who they played.

1039
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: But I actually like their rundy and they they now

1040
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: have like adequate size in the front seven. So I

1041
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: think the run dy is you know for a MAC

1042
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: team is legit and it is going to be legit again.

1043
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: You know you did it lose Thomas, but you mentioned

1044
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: McCoy fish. They bring three back on the defensive line.

1045
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: I like some of the pieces that they added, and

1046
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: they just finally have size now. So the question is

1047
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: this defense could be sneaky underrated if the transfer is

1048
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: hitting the secondary so big if but you know that's

1049
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 2: the question on the defense to me is a secondary.

1050
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: But you look at the schedule like who scares you

1051
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: throwing the ball? Like, let's throw out. There're no losses

1052
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, Rutgers in South Ghina. They played Colgate,

1053
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: Ohio Bowling, Green, Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, Northern Illinois,

1054
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: Kent State, Toledo. Stop me, when there was a quarterback

1055
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: there that you were afraid of. There's not, so they

1056
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: might be able to get away with it. He said.

1057
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: The wind totals two and a half. Thought three and

1058
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: a half. I think that's the right number. But it's

1059
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: over nothing. I'm telling you. The back this year, these

1060
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: middle teams have come down a bunch, So yeah, I

1061
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: am worried about I'm still worried about the offensive line.

1062
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: That's the one piece that they haven't been able to

1063
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: figure out. And then you know, presumably if you're going

1064
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: with Finley, who's ahead of Bullock right now, like he's

1065
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: not a mobile guy, it's it's gonna be ugly. So

1066
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: that's what I would worry about. But uh, yeah, it's

1067
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: over nothing with Ackron. But I think brain half is

1068
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: close to right. But if you can get plus money,

1069
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: why not have some vote?

1070
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: All right, we've gone through some of the bottom teams.

1071
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: It's signed for a bit of a treat. Let's go

1072
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: back to at least the way that the conference used

1073
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: to be laid out in the West. Let's look at

1074
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: Toledo Guy Ruckets in flight. They win eleven games last

1075
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: year ago eleven and three, eight and zero. They lose

1076
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: to Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl. Their wintil this year

1077
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: said at eight and a half plus three twenty to

1078
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: win the MAC thirty to one to make the collet

1079
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: who All playoff. You're not going to believe it, but

1080
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Jason Kandall blew it with an opportunity to perhaps leap

1081
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: over Liberty at the eleventh hour by winning the MAC

1082
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: title game, at least giving the committee something to think about.

1083
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: They go ahead and lose that game. They also lost

1084
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: a game to Illinois, blowing at twelve point second half lead.

1085
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: These fucking assholes.

1086
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: Just fuck these fucking ass holes. The fuck is that problem?

1087
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: Man?

1088
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: This is fucking tyfficult bullshit.

1089
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: So I mean, where's the falloff here? Because the entire

1090
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: offensive line is gone to Kwan Finn is gone, Penny

1091
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Boone is gone. Tucker Gleason has experience, He's thrown for

1092
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: over a thousand career yards and twelve touchdowns. He can

1093
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: run a little bit, but he's gonna have to be

1094
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: a bigger part of this offense, probably than Finn was.

1095
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: Because of what they lost at running back and on

1096
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: the O line. The defense obviously loses Quinyon Mitchell and

1097
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: All Mac Corner Chris McDonald. They're still going to be good.

1098
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Many publications have six Rockets on first or second team

1099
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: All Mac defense, And when you look at the trajectory

1100
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: of basically this defensive turnaround in nineteen, they were horrific.

1101
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: They were one hundred and twenty first in defensive s

1102
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: and P plus ranking. Then in twenty twenty one, they

1103
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: hired Vince Carris from Mount Union. He was a head

1104
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: coach there and won national titles. He was one of

1105
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: those rising stars. They were able to get him, and

1106
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: what does he do immediately? They bump up into the

1107
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: top eighty twenty twenty two sixty seventh, and then last

1108
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: year they were thirty second in S and P plus

1109
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: ranking on the defensive side of the ball. First two

1110
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: games are cake early and could include an upset of

1111
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: a rebuilding Misssippi State on the road. Crazier things have

1112
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: happened at Western Kentucky is tricky. They host Miami on

1113
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: October fifth and Bowling Green on October twenty sixth. So

1114
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: let's start here. You've been critical many times of kandal Sucky.

1115
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: Last year clearly was the team. They had so much

1116
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: more talent than everybody else they played in the conference.

1117
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: They had competent quarterback play, They had an NFL first

1118
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: round pick at corner and another All Mac corner on

1119
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: the other side. They should have gotten it done. That

1120
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: should have been a historic season for the Rockets. Do

1121
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: you see a big ole letdown headed up around the

1122
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: bend because this win total winning in a Kate, Yes.

1123
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 5: Got some unfinished business here in Toledo.

1124
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's the MAC. There's still

1125
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: gona be one of the more talented teams. They always have.

1126
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: They're always recruiting, well, they're the they're the elite recruiters

1127
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: from in the MAC. So they're getting like the most

1128
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: talent year in and year out. But they lost a

1129
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: ton and last year was the year they had to

1130
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: win it last year, especially with Gavert hurt, and they didn't.

1131
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: But look look who they lost. I mean you mentioned

1132
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: Finn and Boone. They lose everything on the offensive line.

1133
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: I mean they have zero returning FBS starts on the

1134
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 2: offensive line. That is my biggest question. Stort takes over

1135
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: at running back. It is a good returner. We'll see

1136
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: if you can handle the load. I like their receivers,

1137
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: that's the strength of the Their pass catchers are the

1138
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: strength of the offense. But Police, and you know at

1139
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: least does have some experience. Still a little erratic for me.

1140
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: We'll see if you know, with him having the job

1141
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: in a full off season of work, you can take

1142
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: that next step. But a brand new offensive line, it's

1143
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: that's it's gonna be tough, and the defense like the interior.

1144
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: They're big in the interior, so they're gonna that's gonna

1145
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: help them against around. I like their safeties, they're still

1146
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: fine there, but everything else they have to replace. I

1147
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: mean there's a defense that is a mac team that

1148
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: lost four to the NFL, including one in the first round.

1149
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: At the corner and you lose your other stud corner.

1150
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: And this is a defense similar to Miami Ohio in

1151
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: that they're gonna run four two five sometimes three two six,

1152
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: and they're not They don't blitz a lot. It's you know,

1153
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: not a lot of bells and whistles. But everyone last

1154
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 2: year very well schooled in the back end. Everyone's always

1155
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: in the right place. You also have more flexibility with

1156
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: where everyone's gonna have two dominant corners. Like can that

1157
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: will that defense take a step back? I think yes. Uh,

1158
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: this is a team's outside the top one hundred and

1159
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: twenty in returning production, so they lose a lot. Guy

1160
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: like Perkins who transferred from Florida, he's gonna be really important.

1161
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: He left like after week one last year on the Gators.

1162
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: He's got to hit a corner. I think for them,

1163
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: depth there back there is also shaky. So yeah, I

1164
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: mean it is a pretty easy schedule. You know, Duke

1165
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 2: Caine and UMass to start. That helps you kind of

1166
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: get hit the ground running with all of this change

1167
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: and figure some things out. You do host my Ohio,

1168
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: you host my Bile, you host Bowling Green, and then

1169
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: you go to Northern Illinois. Speaking of the other top

1170
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: for the the other four of the five top teams

1171
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: in the MAC, your league road games, Buffalo aforementioned, n I, U, E, MU,

1172
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: and Akron. It's pretty easy. So the schedule worked right

1173
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: for them in a year where there's a lot of

1174
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: change on the roster. So yeah, I project eight what

1175
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: do I project seven point nine to five? So the

1176
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: eight and a half is heavily juiced to the under

1177
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: some close to market be under or nothing. But it's

1178
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: like I think that I have them powered as a

1179
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: second second best team in the MAC. But the gap

1180
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: between them and then the second tier of teams is

1181
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: a Bowling Green, Northern Illinois and Western Michigan. It's not

1182
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: as big as it's been. That gap is much smaller

1183
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: than it was last year. So no interest in them.

1184
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: From a future perspective, I still think EG and I

1185
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: U WMU. That's where you gotta look.

1186
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying a big premium for the name brands.

1187
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact the matter is they're half the

1188
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: price of a bowling Green at seven to one. Did

1189
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: that surprise you I and l O Or is that

1190
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: just in line with you know, basically moving away from

1191
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: betting someone with such short odds to win this conference.

1192
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it did surprise me. Actually, I think you said

1193
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 4: you're paying for the brand and the name, and you know,

1194
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: not only they lost so many players, but they lost

1195
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: seven first team All MAC players Like these weren't just

1196
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: play these were dominant, elite, top of the conference type pieces.

1197
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: You know. Gleason and Stewart We've seen plenty, so I'm

1198
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 4: not super worried about those two. The off the line

1199
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 4: is a massive question, Sack. You mentioned the receivers Jrewan, Newen, Junior, Vandross.

1200
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: They bring back tighten Anthony trus They're going to have

1201
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 4: the best receiving room in the conference. So that's at

1202
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 4: least one big positive. It's just a matter of the

1203
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: offensive line holding up and how does Gleason do with

1204
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 4: a full season of work, And the defense has been

1205
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: nasty so you know they do have decent pieces safety

1206
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: Max and hook is back, Darius Alexander up front. But

1207
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't think we can emphasize enough how big a

1208
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: loss Qlingion Mitchell is for this defense because he basically,

1209
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 4: you know, it was the Sauce Gardner, you know, old

1210
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 4: Durell Reeves treatment where he took away half the field

1211
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: for opponents. They were you know, it got to the

1212
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 4: point last year where they were not even throwing it

1213
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 4: to his side of the field. Such a big loss.

1214
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: So and you couldn't even pick on the other corner

1215
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: though at all either like that it was couldn't do

1216
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: anything throwing against them.

1217
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: When you did this last year with Toledo, every team

1218
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: playing Toledo, you just go lost, lost loss. Where now

1219
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 4: they're coin flips. Now Bowling Greens a coin flip. Now

1220
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 4: Northern Illinois a coin flip. It's for me, they should

1221
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: be good still, but I think they take a take

1222
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: a step back and they kind of come back to

1223
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 4: the pack. So like you said, I'm not paying that

1224
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: three twenty. They should be in that six to one

1225
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: range with the rest of them.

1226
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: I think this inflates the value on the next team.

1227
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about because you can get them

1228
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: at close to eight to one to win the MAC.

1229
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: That's the Northern Illinois Huskies seven and six last year,

1230
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: five and three in conference, a win over a surging

1231
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Arkansas State team in the CHAMELLEA Bowle eighty to one

1232
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: to make the College Football Playoff. They got four starters

1233
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: back on this offensive line, which is their bread and butter,

1234
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: Andtario Brown is in line for a big season. Trayvon

1235
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: Rudolph can help either Ethan Hampton or my pick. If

1236
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: he can win this job, I think he'll have a

1237
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: bigger impact on their offense. Arkansas Pine Bluff transfer Jalen

1238
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: chance Making at quarterback. I want Making for two reasons.

1239
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: He can run. We saw it in the spring, and

1240
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: he's huge. He's six five, two hundred and thirty pounds.

1241
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: If you're going to replace a quarterback like Rocky Lombardi

1242
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: that you know you're able to rely on in so

1243
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: many big, close games, big moments, I would love a

1244
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: huge guy that you can run basically like a little

1245
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: wildcat with you can certainly run QB sneaks. He could

1246
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: be interesting if he wins the job. That's going to

1247
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: go into Faul Camp. They won six of their last

1248
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: eight because the defense took over against lousy teams as

1249
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: well as holding Arkansas State, who was an offense that

1250
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: was putting it together just nineteen points in that bowl game.

1251
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: That's a great sign. Three DB's are back from the

1252
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: sixth ranked pass defense in America. This is a potentially

1253
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: elite secondary and the schedule so just for sorry is

1254
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw some money here on them and

1255
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: to win the conference. I think they're priced in away

1256
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: at eight to one plus seven to fifty. It would

1257
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: be my floor. That interests me. But then when you

1258
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: look at their win total, let's talk wins Western, Illinois,

1259
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: Buffalo UMAs. Akron will call Central a win at home

1260
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: as well. They get all those at home toss ups

1261
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: at Bowling Green, at ball State, at Western, and then

1262
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: the clear losses at Notre Dame, at NC State, at

1263
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio home against Toledo. I think the schedule

1264
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: breaks in a really nice way for them at home

1265
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: where you can start stacking wins. So I'm also confident

1266
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: over on this win total. I just think that this

1267
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: matches the scheme, the kind of football they want to play.

1268
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: The defense is going to be good, really good on

1269
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: the back end, and this running game should be able

1270
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: to physically overpower teams. I love Brown. I think he

1271
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: could have the kind of offensive player of the year

1272
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: kind of season here in the MAC. What do you

1273
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: think about this stuck?

1274
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the the defense might be a

1275
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: tad over rated. I hear a lot of people talking

1276
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: about the back there, which I do like. But here

1277
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks they faced last year, they played Boston College,

1278
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: they faced Morehead, they played SIUFCS team, they played at

1279
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: Harburg with Nebraska, who put up thirty five. Your boy

1280
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: Cardile Williams, I know, put up twenty two on them.

1281
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: Finn put up thirty five with Toledo. Then they played

1282
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: Akron when Bullocks started, you know Emu Smith of Warrn

1283
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: like absolutely warrant quarterback play. They played Bauer at Central

1284
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: Michigan to put up thirty seven on them. Kilef Kelly

1285
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: has moved to defense now in ball State, you know,

1286
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: they played Western Michigan's backup, they played Ken State's backup.

1287
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: But they played a ton of backups and horrendous passing

1288
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: offenses last year. I will say though that they you know,

1289
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: the offense made it they made a coordinator change after

1290
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: week four, and they went from averaging fifty sixteen points

1291
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: per game of the first four games to twenty nine

1292
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: over last nine, almost double. Still twenty four points per game,

1293
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: even if you removed the games against ACROD and Kent State.

1294
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 2: So I like some of the changes they made schematically

1295
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: on offense, you know. And they finished the year six

1296
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: and three with three one possession losses after that offensive

1297
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: scheme change, and they're going to play a lot of

1298
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: a lot of bad passing offenses again this year, you know.

1299
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: Not there name in NC State the exception. They're not

1300
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: winning those games anyway on the road. The others Western Illinois, Buffalo, UMass.

1301
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: You know. Ianella said he liked Bowling Green. I don't

1302
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: hate that. I'm waiting all my future. But I think,

1303
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: whoever eight to one, if that's out there, like if

1304
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois eight to one, these teams are seven to one,

1305
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: like they're all in the same bunch, I'm probably going

1306
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: to take NIU depending on how the quarterback battleace. So

1307
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: this is one of my three teams that's in the

1308
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: mix for sure. And they have five really easy home games,

1309
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: which is the floor. I projects six point sixty five,

1310
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: so pretty close to the win total. But they're in

1311
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: the mix for a future very very senior laden team

1312
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 2: similar to Bowling Green Bowling Green Ton of seniors, but

1313
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: their top twenty five ish in the country in overall

1314
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 2: experience for the second year in a row. They also

1315
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: have the best depth they've had in a while, So

1316
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, this is a team that definitely has the

1317
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: potential to win the MAC.

1318
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Northern Illinois, they finally lose Rocking Lombardi

1319
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: to the fifty five in hour over community. I was

1320
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: hoping he'd be back for one more year. And the

1321
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: interesting thing about Jalen Macon coming in is they also

1322
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: brought in his top receiver from Arkansas Pine Bluff, So

1323
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 4: if Macon does win the job, having that continuity will

1324
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: be nice. Off withsive line has all seen playing time,

1325
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: should be a good unit. My only issue what kind

1326
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: of led me away from Northern Illinois and to Bowling

1327
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: Green is just I feel like over the last like

1328
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: how many how many years is Haamic been the coach?

1329
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 4: This is fourth I feel like this team just does

1330
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 4: dumb shit, Like they're super inconsistent, they play up and down.

1331
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: You kind of don't know what you're gonna I mean,

1332
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 4: look at last year's perfect example. They start the season

1333
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 4: meeting Boston College on the road and then lose to

1334
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: Southern Illinois the following week. I have trouble trusting this team,

1335
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 4: so I like them overall. I don't hate your pick Breeze,

1336
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 4: but that's just kind of what made me go Bowling

1337
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: Green instead of them.

1338
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: Now, when we look at the directional schools in Michigan,

1339
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: it breaks down for win total six and a half,

1340
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: five and a half, four and a half. Let's start

1341
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: at the top of that. Western Michigan four and eight

1342
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: last year three and five in conference win totals six

1343
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: and a half plus six fifty to win the MAC

1344
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty to one to make the college Football Playoff.

1345
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: All right, their schedule early on, can they survive? But

1346
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin at Ohio State at Marshall the martial part

1347
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: obviously being far less daunting. Then they get a huge

1348
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: break of avoiding both Miami of Ohio and Toledo, a

1349
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: pair of teams that beat him by thirty one points

1350
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: in total last year. The overall the tough forty in

1351
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: returning production, which, as we beat the drum over and

1352
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: over again in G five land very rare. But Hayden

1353
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: Wolf is back at quarterback and he does not move

1354
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: the needle for me. Mister wolf pack Wolf in the shotgun.

1355
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: He's got him asking you shall receive my friend from

1356
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: Hayden Wolf.

1357
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: Wolf Bang the wolf Bang.

1358
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: He's a C plus starter after posting just two starts

1359
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: with qbrs over fifty five last year. But he's a

1360
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: game manager and they have the rest of the pieces

1361
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: for that to be okay, be one thousand yard rusher

1362
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Buckley's back four starters on the offensive line, they

1363
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: were one of four G five offensive lines in the

1364
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: entire country to be top thirty five in both run

1365
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: and pass block grade by Pro Football Focus. And then

1366
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: when you get into the defense, the defensive line could

1367
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: be a real strength if Louisville transfer pop By Williams

1368
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: is a big pass rushing threat, two back at linebacker,

1369
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: two back at corner off a serviceable defense, and when

1370
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: you get into Scott Power their DC, he does a

1371
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: great job with both pass defense and forcing turnovers. In

1372
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two at LA Tech, his defense forced twenty

1373
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: two turnovers in twelve games. That was top twenty five

1374
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: in the country. Western. Also, when you pair it with

1375
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: the way that Western plays football, they do a really

1376
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: good job of protecting the football. They were top twenty

1377
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: in giveaways. So if you are more disruptive and you

1378
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: take chances and you take the ball away, that's going

1379
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: to basically sum up to a healthy turnover margin. And

1380
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: that's one of the quickest direct lines to winning more

1381
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: games being plus in the turnover margin. Like I said,

1382
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: if they survive, they come out healthy against Wisconsin and

1383
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State early. I like them to be feisty down

1384
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: the stretch. This could be a team that goes from

1385
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: one to three to seven and five wouldn't shock me

1386
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: at all. Akron, Kent State, Bethune, Cookman, Eastern all at home.

1387
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: I think that gives them a lot of cushy, easy

1388
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: wins to kind of pad this and to get in

1389
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: line to go over this win total stuck. You've been

1390
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: teasing it the whole show. Is this a team that

1391
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: you're bullishan to maybe make a run from the outside

1392
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: and challenge one of the top teams in the conference.

1393
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: On one of our first college football prepots, like I

1394
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: teased my mac manifesto and said Western Michigan plus nine fifty.

1395
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: It's who I'm targeting. But I'm afraid of Walt Bell,

1396
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: and I didn't go out and bet it. I wait

1397
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: for the MAC manifesto and for our podcasts, and that

1398
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 2: little worm Colin I think went out and was telling

1399
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 2: people to bet it because now it's down the plus

1400
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,879
Speaker 2: like six six fifty six to one a lot of places.

1401
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I liked them a lot better at plus

1402
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: nine to fifty. I like Wolf. I think that I

1403
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: don't love him, but I think he's fine. I think

1404
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: he's the best option that they had last year by far.

1405
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: They also added Nixon from Oklahoma State today or the

1406
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: other day, a running back who's a rent, like a

1407
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: thousand yards for them, little speedy guy to go along

1408
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 2: with Buckley, and so I really like their back that.

1409
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: I really like their offensive line. You know, you lose

1410
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: your best defensive linemen to the NFL, but I still

1411
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 2: like that group, and you have some experience at linebacker.

1412
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: They need to improve, but you at least have some

1413
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: experience there, and you have experience on the back end

1414
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: as well. Special teams need to be better. They've been

1415
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: one of the worst for the last three years in

1416
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: FBS and at least you got a new punter and kicker,

1417
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: so maybe there's some upside. There can't be any worse

1418
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: than they've been. And this is the team that last

1419
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: year it's like they had two returning starters and a

1420
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: new coach. It was like a year zero situation. Now

1421
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: they're top twenty five in experienced, top fifteen in returning production.

1422
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like some of the additions from the

1423
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: power for level, and they have a lot of experience,

1424
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 2: not things that I'm used to saying. You even heard

1425
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: a say on this podcast. So I have them favored

1426
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: an eight. I project them at right around six and half,

1427
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 2: so I don't see a ton of value on the

1428
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: wind total, but they're a team. They're one of the

1429
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: three that I'm looking at from a future's perspective. I

1430
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: hate that the price got bet down like the way

1431
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: that the schedule breaks, assuming as you said, that they

1432
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: can just survive and stay healthy over those first two

1433
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were definitely going to be my future

1434
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 2: at ten, close to ten to one, but price matters,

1435
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: So now getting down to six to one, it's getting

1436
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: a little dicer. That's a big jump for a team

1437
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: that finished four and eight last year. You can make

1438
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: these big jumps in the back, but they were also

1439
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: blown out in a lot of games. They only went

1440
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: they went only one in one possession games. That's all

1441
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: they played was one to one possession games, and they

1442
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: finished plus four turner margin. So I like some of

1443
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 2: the things, but then again, they also have two new coordinators.

1444
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not the biggest Walt Bell fan. That was

1445
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: one of the things I told call and I said,

1446
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: Western Michigan bought Walt Bell, so they're under consideration. I

1447
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: think they're one of the three teams in the second

1448
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: tier that you should consider for a future, but prices

1449
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: definitely come down, making it a little less appealing.

1450
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 4: They had a weird year last year. They started three

1451
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 4: different qbs throughout the year. They kept kind of rotating

1452
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 4: him Trayson Borge and Jack Selipick both at the portal.

1453
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 4: So now Hayden Wolf seemingly is the guy. He probably

1454
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 4: was the best of the group. Stocky said he's concerned

1455
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 4: about Walt Bell. I'm concerned about Scott Power. They lose

1456
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 4: leues Posito to Memphis and they replaced him with Scott Power,

1457
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 4: who was just fired from law Tech, who had maybe

1458
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: the worst defense in the country.

1459
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: So personally, I'm just saying this. I liked Scott Power

1460
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: before when he had personnel. I'm circling that twenty twenty

1461
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: two season. It's he's somebody who's gonna roll the dice.

1462
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: We've talked about lo Tech on this podcast. That program

1463
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: is poverty. That program is going to get sunny Comby

1464
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: fired because there are no dudes in that locker room whatsoever.

1465
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: So I'm just throwing that out there. I'm gonna have

1466
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: a little human shield in front of Power for this conversation.

1467
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: If I got to break the tie, I would be

1468
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: I would side with Einell here. I'm not the biggest

1469
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: Scott Power. So the two new coordinators, and I'm not

1470
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: like wowed by either one.

1471
01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 4: So he's also the third coordinator. Like this spring, like

1472
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 4: Esposito got poached in like March, and then they hired

1473
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 4: someone else to replace him, who then got poached like

1474
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: two weeks later, So it was kind of a roller

1475
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 4: coaster throughout the spring. I'm less bullish on them in

1476
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 4: terms of conference future with like with the price coming

1477
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 4: down now, just because I don't know that I see

1478
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 4: the upside potential with Hayden Wolf, who is you know?

1479
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 4: To me, just the guy and Scott Power in my opinion,

1480
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: holding the defense back from reaching its full potential. But

1481
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 4: then you mentioned the schedule. I think after they lose

1482
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 4: to it Alisconsin at Ohio State, but then their schedules

1483
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: at Cakewalk, they don't play Miami, they don't play Toledo.

1484
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 4: They start conference play with Ball State, Akron, Buffalo Kent State,

1485
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 4: who are, based on odds wise, the four worst teams

1486
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 4: in the MAC. So they realistically could rattle off six

1487
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 4: straight wins heading into November, and then you would just

1488
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 4: need one of their final four coin flip games to.

1489
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 2: Go over this win total.

1490
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 4: So I'm not as bullish on the upside of a

1491
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: MAC cham chip, but based on this schedule, I actually

1492
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 4: do like them to go over six and a half.

1493
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: They should be favored in like eight to nine games,

1494
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: so I'll take them over six and a half.

1495
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: All right. If Westerns at six and a half, we

1496
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: moved down one win to Central Michigan five and seven

1497
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: last year three and five in the MAC, their win

1498
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: t will set at five and a half, twelve to

1499
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: one to win the conference, three hundred to one to

1500
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: make the playoff Fire Up Chips Baby year six of

1501
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: Jim mcawain on.

1502
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 4: Tap Fire Up Chips, he's.

1503
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: One or tied for first place in the West on

1504
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: two occasions. He won eight games in year one and

1505
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: won nine games in year three, and then since then.

1506
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: They've been MAC mid pretty much ever since. Nine to

1507
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: fifteen overall, six and eleven in conference play in twenty

1508
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty three. But there are reasons

1509
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: for excitement. Burt Emanuel Junior can be a star. Obviously,

1510
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: he was banged up last year. He still managed a

1511
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: four touchdown game and a thrilling win over New Hampshire

1512
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: that was one of the best fcs G five games

1513
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: from an entertainment standpoint last year. In twenty twenty two,

1514
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: we averaged seven point four yards per carry, including an

1515
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: all timer MAC performance against Buffalo where he ran for

1516
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety three yards and three scores. He

1517
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: gets Mary and Luke's and all his receivers back. The

1518
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,959
Speaker 1: offensive line is green, but they do return both tackles,

1519
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: so we'll see what they can do in the middle

1520
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: of that O line. If he isn't an effective passer,

1521
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: which is possible, or if he gets hurt, which is

1522
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: certainly possible. Joe Lavis is in from Iowa, a former

1523
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: three star kid, gives them some decent depth. No offensive

1524
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: coordinator though, which is interesting. This is mcloayan's show. We'll

1525
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: see if he's calling plays the whole season, if he

1526
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: elevates somebody from his staff, just something to monitor.

1527
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: This tea just made a bunch of staffa. They just

1528
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: shook up their offensive staff yesterday. They've like ac wired

1529
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: the offensive. The quarterbacks coach, they moved all he's got.

1530
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: They moved some guys from like assistant to I didn't

1531
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 2: want to chance the review it fully.

1532
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically all I was looking for there was it'sordin. Yeah, exactly.

1533
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: He hasn't so I think it's just his show. Coach

1534
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: Mack just doing everything. Basically, he's the cameraman. He's in

1535
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: the kitchen, open it up, he's doing social promotion for

1536
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: the show. He's everything to the Chips this year on offense.

1537
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: Then we get to the defense. The defense's main problem

1538
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: was simple. They couldn't take the ball away at all.

1539
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: Last season. They were the third lowest in terms of

1540
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: takeaways in the entire country. They have decent starters back

1541
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: at all three levels of the defense, and they added

1542
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: power for transfers like Notre Dames Nolan Ziegler at linebacker.

1543
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: Biggest challenge in my opinion, is there two non con games.

1544
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: Michigan State and Notre Dame last year have been replaced

1545
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: with Illinois and San Diego State. So this is like

1546
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: an opportunity for them to get a few more wins,

1547
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: to maybe come out of the non con healthier than

1548
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,919
Speaker 1: they did last year. If Emmanuel gives them pop on offense.

1549
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: This is stretch, but I'll say there's potentially six or

1550
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: seven winnable games here. We got Central Connecticut State at FIU,

1551
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: Ball State at home, San Diego State, and year one

1552
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: new offense as tech fast, all that great stuff. We'll

1553
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: see what they look like Ohio at home at Eastern

1554
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: and versus Western Michigan late in the season. Five of

1555
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: those seven are at home, so I think this number

1556
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: is just about right. They're a team. I'm more intrigued

1557
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: to see what the offense looks like with noh Ci

1558
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: and a quarterback who gets banged up if he doesn't,

1559
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: could the running game really pop and is that enough

1560
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: to have an identity to be a bowl team. In

1561
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: the mac absolutely, can they do anything more on defense,

1562
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: We'll see it's gonna be wait and see time. For me,

1563
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: it's a pass purely on the win total. Not interested

1564
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: in them stealing a conference championship or going to the

1565
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: playoff or anything crazy like that. What do you think?

1566
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: I know?

1567
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think I thought they'd be much

1568
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 4: better last year, and they were five and seven, and

1569
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 4: even the five wins weren't convincing. They needed a game

1570
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 4: winning field go as time expired to beat New Hampshire,

1571
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, discovered thirteen seconds left to beat South Alabama,

1572
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: scored late to be Eastern Michigan by three, beat Akrom

1573
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 4: by seven, beating Northern by six despite being out gained

1574
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 4: like they didn't have a single good win where you're like,

1575
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 4: they look good.

1576
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: Obviously fiven seven record five and one and one possession games.

1577
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously. Burr Emanuel is an electric factory

1578
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 4: and when he's healthy, he's awesome. He played just six

1579
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 4: games last year, was only really healthy for two of them.

1580
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 4: He got hurt against the Hampshire in this the second

1581
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 4: game of the year, and then tried to gut it

1582
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 4: out and just couldn't do it. You mentioned I think

1583
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 4: it's a big loss that they lose jays Bauer over

1584
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: to Sam Houston, who Colin thanks as going to the playoffs,

1585
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 4: so obviously you know, not having that backup. And then yeah,

1586
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 4: they bringing Joey Labs from Iowa. Okay, Iowa was playing

1587
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 4: a defensive tackle like quarterback instead of this kid, so

1588
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 4: they were down to like you know, clearly they didn't

1589
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 4: want to put him on the field. So if he's

1590
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: worse than that guy, I'm certainly not banking on him.

1591
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 4: You mentioned Mary Luke's back, which obviously is big. Their

1592
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 4: top three leading receivers are back. They do bring back

1593
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: two offensive tackles, but the whole interior of the line

1594
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 4: will be new, which is concerning given Emmanuel's health. And

1595
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 4: then you said it just the defense can't first Forrest

1596
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 4: tharn of ours, they just they're so bad at it.

1597
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 4: Dante Kent is back, he's the best player in this defense,

1598
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 4: but the defense really really really needs to be better.

1599
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 4: And to me, this is almost just this is such

1600
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: a hard team to bet because I think they have

1601
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 4: the highest range of outcomes in the conference. Because if

1602
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 4: Bert Emanuel plays like he did against Buffalo, he's Lamar

1603
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 4: Jackson and then they can win the MAC. If he's

1604
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 4: hurt again, they could lose every game. So I also

1605
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 4: think the schedules did not do them any favors. They

1606
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 4: don't play Kent State, they don't play Accord, they don't

1607
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: play Buffalo. They end the year with the projected five

1608
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 4: best teams in the conference all in a row, so

1609
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 4: and again is a manual playing in those games. So

1610
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 4: they just have such a wide range of outcomes that

1611
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 4: to me, they're so hard to bet. I think if

1612
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 4: I had to, i'd lean under. But I don't want to.

1613
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 4: But there's the team I'm excited to watch Berta Manuel

1614
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 4: when he's on the field suck.

1615
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1616
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I projected a five point three s Actually, numerically

1617
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: I would lean under. They have the hardest schedule, the MAC,

1618
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: the only team to face the project the top six.

1619
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: Don con is manageable to start at least, so that's nice.

1620
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, if they had a reliable quarterback

1621
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: that you could count on, there's some potential With the offense.

1622
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: They have a lot of size on the offensive line.

1623
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: They actually might move their left tackle the left guard,

1624
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: which which would mean that there's a left tackle question.

1625
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 2: But you know, were top four receivers are back, your

1626
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: top two backs, you have a big offensive line. The

1627
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: problem is Emmanuel just can't throw it like that was

1628
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: the upside that I considered last year. But he's just

1629
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: not a consistent enough throwers. He can just load the

1630
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: box against them and you can turn their offense into mush.

1631
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: They did have a ton of injuries last year, but

1632
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 2: again they went five and one in one games despite

1633
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: the three of eleven when field goals beyond thirty yards,

1634
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: which is definitely a question. So yeah, you get no

1635
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: Acron kenn or Buffalo and you have to face the

1636
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: top six. You don't get the bottom three. That's tough.

1637
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I with his stash shakeups on offense, that's

1638
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 2: not a good sign. So reading some of the tea

1639
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: leaves not great. I'm not sure a low much longer?

1640
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: How much longes mack Goin want to do this?

1641
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, it sounds like he just wants

1642
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: more jobs. He's just picking up more jobs within the

1643
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: athletic department, just putting new titles on his door. The

1644
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: one thing I'll say about Emmanuel real quick is I agree.

1645
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, watching him pass it's not just purely his mechanic,

1646
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: it's it's everything in the passing game. But he did

1647
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: have that injury to his throwing shoulders, So I would

1648
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: love to know. We're not going to get clarity on this.

1649
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: Is he one hundred percent? What was the problem last year?

1650
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: And is he going to come out of fall camp

1651
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: a renewed, refreshed passer because if it can be even

1652
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: a little bit better just to keep teams honest, I agree,

1653
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: that's a huge ripple effect to benefiting their run game.

1654
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: But we just don't know what this time.

1655
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might go, I'm going to take a roachri

1656
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 2: about the mount pleasant and watch them. So I don't know.

1657
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: I'm just not there yet right now.

1658
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: How beautiful is mation? Beautiful is maction?

1659
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh man? Just when we thought we had.

1660
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 3: Peak maction all right?

1661
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: In the Conference USA preview, we all aligns, all three

1662
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: co hosts on and under hoping we can do the

1663
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: same thing here. Eastern Michigan six and seven last year

1664
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: four and feign conference. They lose to South Alabama in

1665
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: the sixty eight Ventures Bowl to get waxed win totals

1666
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: at four and a half thirty one to one to

1667
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 1: win the Mac three into to one to make the playoff.

1668
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: Cole Snyder in a quarter back, just one returning starter

1669
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. This whole roster decimated negative twelve

1670
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 1: and then that Tarpa thanks to Colin for putting that together.

1671
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: Tied for dead last nationally. And let's look even closer

1672
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: at last year, not just the bowl game that was embarrassing.

1673
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: Six wins right Howard by ten, UMass by two, they

1674
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: beat Kent State, they beat Akron in double overtime, and

1675
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: they lose the bowl game. As I mentioned, they get

1676
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: Wax by forty nine points. I am out on these guys.

1677
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: No Samson Evans at running back to make it work.

1678
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: The back seven of their defense has far too many

1679
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: new faces at Washington Jacksonville State early the wins Saint Francis.

1680
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: I guess Saint Francis is just really interested in becoming

1681
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: a MAC member. They'll go ahead and play the Red Flashes.

1682
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: Give them a win there at Kent's Winnabowl. Sure at

1683
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: Akron winnable. Sure, that's it. I am going under on them.

1684
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: This is my favorite under in the conference. I am

1685
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 1: out on them, which is where.

1686
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 2: Ken that's at Kent's a lost baby.

1687
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and oh I like chs K. I like Chris

1688
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: Crayon a lot. East turns water into wine many times

1689
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: over in Ipsilany not an easy place to win. Plenty

1690
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: of respect. This is not the roster. This is a

1691
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: year zero roster. Good thing. He's built up all this

1692
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: goodwill with the administration. He can go two and ten.

1693
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: No one's gonna blink. He'll be back next year. We

1694
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: can talk about him next year in a positive light.

1695
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: Cole Snyder not the guy to come in and save

1696
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: this offense. They needed a savior in the portal to

1697
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: be able to put the whole offense on their back.

1698
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: They should have swung for the fences with a JUCO kid,

1699
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: with an FCS kid moving up trying to make a

1700
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: name for himself. They did not. I am out on

1701
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: EMU stuck. Are you with me on this? Yeah?

1702
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 2: It's under nothing. All right, there we got they were

1703
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: so bad last year. I gotta do my. Saint Francis

1704
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: was decent last year.

1705
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: They were.

1706
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: I gotta do my. I haven't done ANYFCS work yet

1707
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: outside of just like all right, I gotta find out

1708
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: what range this team is for.

1709
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: Sinate Francis athletic department was so strong they scared the

1710
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: other Saint Francis in New York just out of college

1711
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: basketball altogether. So yeah, maybe Saint Francis is more of

1712
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: a power than I thought.

1713
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 2: Now I gotta dig into them. But yeah, I'm I'm

1714
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: not Kole Snyder guy. We used to take Buffalo unders

1715
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: when he was there. So now, Brannett, that offense and

1716
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: quarterback play last year was detestable. I mean, it was

1717
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: jazz beyond offensive. So it can't get much worse. But

1718
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: this team doesn't have much. I have questions about quarterback,

1719
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:24,440
Speaker 2: running back, wide receiver, offensive line, their defensive line, linebacker.

1720
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 2: I like their secondary. I like this kid White, who's

1721
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: I think is good. They're gonna move him from nickel

1722
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: to corner. He was an absolute stud last years, a

1723
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: true freshman. Some of the numbers that he allowed, you know,

1724
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: yards per completion, yards per rout run. I mean, they

1725
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: were absolutely elite on a national level. He's going to

1726
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: move to cornerback. I like some of some of their

1727
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: safeties and some of their auditions there, so I think

1728
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: the secondary could be at decent. I mean, I'm reaching here.

1729
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: The only thing I will say is that they did

1730
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: have really bad injury look specifically on defense last year,

1731
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: which really hurt them. And he always being rebuilt, like

1732
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: they are close to bottom fifteen or definitely bottom twenty,

1733
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 2: returning production outside the top under an offense and defense.

1734
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 2: The offense is rebuilding, but the offense was what was

1735
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: the offense last year? It was harrass So how much

1736
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 2: worse can it be? The run Dey's got to get better.

1737
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: The rundee is so bad and you can just run

1738
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,959
Speaker 2: all over them. That's probably part of the the secondary

1739
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: numbers is you could just run all over them whenever

1740
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: you wanted the undersized up front. I don't think Snyder's

1741
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: the answer at quarterback. The only thing I will say though,

1742
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: is that you know, if I look at the schedule,

1743
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: this is one of the ten easiest schedules in the country.

1744
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: They have three winnable non con games, which you know

1745
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: you're taking an under four and a half with a

1746
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: MAC team, and they have three winnable non coome games.

1747
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: Like part of me just wants to bet UMass in

1748
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Week one against them, which I might do. They face

1749
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: they face kent Acker and Buffalo, so they face the

1750
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: bottom three. It's a very nice road slate and then

1751
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: I mentioned Creighton before, is that they're not gonna get

1752
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: They're not gonna beat themselves with penalties. Their special teams

1753
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 2: are going to be solid, They're going to be buttoned up,

1754
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 2: so like they can steal a couple of games. So

1755
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: that's the only that concerns me, is like they won't

1756
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,839
Speaker 2: beat themselves and they'll probably steal a couple of bullshit

1757
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: games like just what Crayton does. They're well coached, like

1758
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: just from a disciplined special teams perspective. But yeah, I mean,

1759
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: I can't believe this team made a Bowl last year.

1760
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: They were so bad and they have a lot of

1761
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: work to do. It's it's it's uh, I don't hate

1762
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: your under.

1763
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan is take it off. Can make it a

1764
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: clean sweep? Please?

1765
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: No, I can't.

1766
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 4: You guys have said three times throughout this show that

1767
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 4: Chris Creighton dragged the dog shit team to a bowl.

1768
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 4: That's just what he does. Look, I have nothing, by

1769
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 4: the way, I'm.

1770
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 2: Not betting the under, so we can't make this consensus.

1771
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 4: I'm not bending over for sure, but I'm not betting.

1772
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 4: I'm not betting it under on a Chris Crane team

1773
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 4: because we've mentioned it the whole show. Yes, they sucked.

1774
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 4: They don't have a quarterback. Coale Snyders ask their quarterback

1775
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 4: last year, was asked, they don't have any like it.

1776
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 4: I have nothing positive written about them.

1777
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: You can bet under Chris crayon On when his wind

1778
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: totals like six and a half.

1779
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 4: They play We soon said it. They played Kent State, Akron, Ohio, Buffalo.

1780
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 4: You math, Saint Francis. That is six winnable games. And

1781
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 4: I blindly trust Chris Crayon to win winnable games. It's

1782
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 4: what he does. It's what he's always done. He showed

1783
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 4: it last year with a bad team. Again, I'm not

1784
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 4: betting him to do it, but I'm certainly not gonna

1785
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 4: bet him against him. You know, maybe Max Crosby, you know,

1786
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 4: he donated a million dollars to redo the stadium. Maybe

1787
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 4: he should have thrown a few bones to get a

1788
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 4: quarterback instead of you know, keep the track and just

1789
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 4: get a quarterback. But no, I'm not fading Chris Crayon.

1790
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: You're out of your mind. Yeah, this team stinks, but

1791
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 4: he's gonna find a way to win five games because

1792
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 4: that's what he's always done.

1793
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have Samson Evans anymore. Look at the

1794
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: box scores for the games that they want. They win

1795
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: against UMS by two. He's got eighty nine yards. He's

1796
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: the whole offense. They beat Akron in double overtime. He

1797
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: has three touchdowns. The dude's not there anymore. They have nothing, no.

1798
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: One stopping, No one's stopping you, No one's stopping.

1799
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: They got they got JB. Smooth Mitchell.

1800
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: Like, for example, I kind of like U Mass what

1801
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: is this line sitting? I kind of like U Mass.

1802
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: Week one, there was a pick. I think I think

1803
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: they might have been plus one of their mind as well. Now,

1804
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: UMass's special teams this year are horrendous. They are undisciplined,

1805
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 2: they're not well coached. The kickoffs alone, like the kickoff

1806
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 2: coverage alone could lose in that game. That petrifies me.

1807
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: So like that game could be flipped just based on

1808
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: special teams performance against you Mass. So like those are

1809
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: the games that just scare me on the MU. But

1810
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 2: I digress that just self holds them back.

1811
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: We'll close out with the Ball State Cardinals four and

1812
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: eight last year, three and five in conference play. Win

1813
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: total set at four and a half thirty seven to

1814
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: one to win the Mac three hundred to one to

1815
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 1: make the College Well playoff. One starter back from a

1816
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: defense that finished fourteenth against the run, seventeenth in total yards,

1817
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: that kept the roof from cavan in on them. Their DC,

1818
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Tyler Stockton, did an amazing job. He is now a

1819
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: co DC at Boise. That's one of the reasons I'm

1820
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: so high on the Broncos this year. Take a big

1821
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: step forward defensively. Kevin Lynch also out as offensive coordinator.

1822
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Mike new will have a new quarterback, likely freshman Caden

1823
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: and Simonza. He played a little bit last year. It

1824
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: looked pretty good, especially against Kentucky, but that was with

1825
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: better weapons at tight end and receiver that are no longer.

1826
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: They are new faces across the board in terms of

1827
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: skill positions, and there's three new starters on the offensive line.

1828
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: They play both Miamis the Ohio and Florida versions at

1829
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: James Madison at Vandy. They do avoid Toledo when you

1830
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: look at the wins here with the win total of

1831
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: four and a half Missouri State and then a lot

1832
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 1: of their winnable games. They're on the road at Buffalo

1833
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: at Ohio. You can't slip up there if you want

1834
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 1: to go over this number, because then they're going to

1835
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: need to win some games that are likely they're going

1836
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: to be an underdog again, so you need some outright upsets.

1837
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: I lean under here. I used up all my Mac

1838
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: under passion for Eastern Michigan, so I'm going to basically

1839
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: pass on an under here. But I do not love

1840
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: what this team brings back offensively, and the heartbeat of

1841
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: it was their defense that I trust. They lose personnel,

1842
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: they lose the mastermind behind it, a multiple Broils nominee

1843
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: in Stockton their DC. So I and LA, what are

1844
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: your thoughts on.

1845
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 4: Well, First, I just want to give a shout out

1846
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 4: to Stocky. I know you mentioned the all powerful Mac

1847
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 4: Manifesto both the preseason and the mid season. I remember

1848
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 4: stuck the writing in his Mac mid season Mac Manifesto

1849
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 4: last year, calling Ball State a bye team in the

1850
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 4: mid season when they switched to Kyle Kelly at quarterback. Well,

1851
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 4: they finished the season losing by a touchdown in Toledo,

1852
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: beating Central Michigan, losing to Bowling Green by three on

1853
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 4: a missed game dying field goal, beating Northern Illinois, smoking

1854
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 4: Kent State and then losing to Miami, Ohio on a

1855
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 4: blocked game winning field goal. So they did really turn

1856
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 4: it around at the end of the year, covering machines

1857
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 4: I memory they covered. Yeah, that's what they covered all

1858
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: those games. I bet them every single Tuesday night. They

1859
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 4: covered like six games to end the year. Now you know,

1860
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 4: Kelly went in the portal. Then he decided to return

1861
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 4: the ball State. But now he's listened as a cornerback,

1862
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 4: which I'm not sure why. He's also going to be

1863
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 4: their primary kick returner. They said they're going to have

1864
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 4: package packages for him on offense. Don't be surprised if

1865
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 4: he starts a game this year because he was pretty

1866
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 4: good when he came in. He ment Simonza. He started

1867
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 4: three games last year before being benched for Kelly. So

1868
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 4: now you have the guy he was benched for is

1869
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 4: on the roster that I don't know how that's gonna work.

1870
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 4: But he was also rotating with like four other quarterbacks

1871
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 4: during the spring, so who really knows what who's gonna

1872
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 4: end up winning that job. Tannerkoisiole decided to return at

1873
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 4: tight end, so that's it. That's a huge get back

1874
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 4: they do lose Marcus Cooper. But this team, you know,

1875
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 4: they pretty much run the ball. That's all he really

1876
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 4: did was run the ball. So the defense was good,

1877
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 4: but they re turned just one starter, so that is

1878
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 4: a concern. I have a bunch of questions about this

1879
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 4: front seven, so I'm with you. I have no idea

1880
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 4: who the quarterback is. They have no explosive this. I

1881
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 4: have a ton of questions about the defense. So it

1882
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 4: is a pass for me. But I just wanted to

1883
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 4: kind of give Stucky a shout out for get me

1884
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 4: all those ball State covers read his mac manifesto. It

1885
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 4: is the Holy Grail.

1886
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they can't do with that. The reason I

1887
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 2: was buying them is that, you know, I like the defense.

1888
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: They got some guys back from injury, Kelly taken over

1889
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: means that they were just going to run the ball

1890
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: lean on that defense, and that's what they did. And

1891
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: Kelly couldn't really throw it. I think he had more

1892
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 2: rushing yards than passing yards last year. But that's they

1893
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: would just grind games down to a halt rely on

1894
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: that defense, which I really like. They can't do that

1895
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: now because their defense is going to be bad. They

1896
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: lose everybody. They lose their good DC. They might be

1897
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 2: starting like a couple of D two guys on the

1898
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 2: defensive line defense, but if not the if not dead last,

1899
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 2: they're one of three or four teams in returning dead

1900
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: lesson close to bottom on returning production on defense. They

1901
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: want to go to a more pass heavy offense. I'm

1902
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: not sure guy like Simones is the answer there. So yeah,

1903
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: it's rough. There's not much to like here. New play

1904
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: caller on offense, not a quarterback I love. Yeah, I

1905
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: like the tight end, but everywhere else in the roster

1906
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: there's not much to really like here. Their special teams

1907
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 2: lest year were also horrendous. I don't see that really changing.

1908
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 2: Their coverage units were so bad, and their return units

1909
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: as well for that matter. So from a scheduled perspective, tough,

1910
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: non con you know at JMU at Miami, you know,

1911
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: they had to do with some winnable road games, but

1912
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 2: I hate the way that their schedule sets up. They

1913
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: don't get Achron and then they have three straight road

1914
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 2: games just you know after Missouri State too late buys

1915
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 2: with all this change, so don't like that. I project

1916
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 2: right around four and a half, but it could get ugly.

1917
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: If I had a bet, it would probably be under,

1918
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: but I'm not actually at four point four, so not

1919
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 2: a consideration. No thanks on ball State. Mike new will

1920
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 2: always have a special place in my heart, but might

1921
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: be the last year for him at this Go South.

1922
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: Double points to make before we get out of here.

1923
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: Number one, just in terms of your overall opinion on

1924
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: the MAC, don't make the mistake that most people do,

1925
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: which is in September, they get their head caved in.

1926
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: They play all these paycheck games, they lose by one

1927
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: hundred points. Care about how they play and defeat and

1928
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: if they're healthy, and just do not get over influenced

1929
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: by those non conference games. That's September, because to Dianello

1930
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: and Stuck's point, these teams can really turn a corner

1931
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: when they start to get back to the way they

1932
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: want to play football against opponents with similar talent. So

1933
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: that's just that's step one. So if you are listening

1934
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: out there in the audience or you're watching us on YouTube,

1935
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: thank you so much for going on the journey with us.

1936
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: We're going to be back before you know it. With

1937
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: a week zero action, we get some G five teams

1938
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: in action. There Bronco Mendenhall making his debut Hawaii trying

1939
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 1: to cover a monster spread against Delaware State. Can't wait

1940
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to deliver that for you guys. All right, before we

1941
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 1: ends here, let's go around rapid fire Conference title matchup.

1942
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Who do you have when? And it's stuck? You can

1943
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 1: go first?

1944
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: This is where are you? Subject to change? Because I've

1945
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 2: still have worked. You've got to see quarterback battles depth.

1946
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: But as of right now, the longest sids are on NIU,

1947
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 2: and I think that you want to take from a

1948
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 2: future just value perspective, you want to take either and

1949
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: I you you want to focus on that second tier

1950
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 2: and I you Bowling Green Western Michigan longestids right now

1951
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 2: our NIU subject to change, but I'll go NIU over

1952
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:07,799
Speaker 2: Miami Ohio.

1953
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 4: I'm going to the net t here. I'm going to

1954
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 4: go with Bowling Green beating Miami Ohio and their backup quarterback.

1955
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: I think this is the year the step back for

1956
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: the top teams. I know we're living in the year chalk.

1957
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: It's just chalk, chalk, chalk across all of sports. But

1958
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Bowling Green beating NIU in the

1959
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: title game. Division list football here in the MAC for

1960
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: the first time, seeing what that matchup looks like for

1961
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: Stuckey and Mike Ianello on Mike Calbery's That's been the

1962
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1963
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1971
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1972
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1973
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1974
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1975
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1976
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1977
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1978
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1979
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1980
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