1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're going to talk 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: now with Bob Clifford. He is an attorney who sued 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Boeing over one of the two crashes that happened in 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. You've been following the Boeing saga. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure most recently that door plug blew out of 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the Alaska airplane that was going from Portland to Ontario. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: But if you remember Boeing's problems with these Max jets, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: go back to October twenty eighteen, Max eight crashed an 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: engine in Indonesia. Twenty nineteen in Ethiopia, total killed three 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: hundred and forty six. They grounded all the Max jets 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: and it cost the company more than twenty one billion dollars. 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: And you think that would have been enough to get 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: their production system in order, but apparently it wasn't. Let's 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: get Robert Clifford on the line. He represents the families 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: of thevictims in the second crash, the one that the 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: one in Ethiopia. Robert, how are you. 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: Hey, John, Good afternoon, sir, How are you wonderful? 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm all right. I I'm just fascinated by this because 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: you had two huge crashes and they were fighting to 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: keep the planes in the air anyway, And now all 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: these years later, we've got a run of more Boeing 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: problems with their max jets. They don't learn lessons easily, there, 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: do they No. 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: They don't. And you know, to your point about they 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: fought to keep the planes in the air. You know, 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the first crash in October of twenty eighteen, you could, 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: let's call that an accident or something that came about 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 2: because of negligence. That's not true for the second crash, 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: the second crash March ten, twenty nineteen, in Ethiopia, where 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: I serve as lead counsel for all the families in 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: the federal case pending in Chicago. There, as I told 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: the Attorney General of the United States, are Boeing employees 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: who should have been investigated for criminal conduct because they 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: knew within hours of the first crash that what the 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: cause was, and they did everything they could not to 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: tell their operators about it because they thought they could 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: get ahead of the curve with the fix it was 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: a software fix. They didn't, and then people died so 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: they took they risklized, people died afterwards, and no one's 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: been held accountable for it, which is why on February sixth, 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: next Tuesday, we'll be in federal court in Chicago, asking 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: that the district court judge to set trials for the 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: remaining approximately forty cases that are left of all the 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: cases john that were filed in Chicago under federal law 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: for the second crash, or about forty left the cases 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: have been settling. Families have settled cases, but not all 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: of them. And there are families who deeply believe that 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: they the community, should bear witness about Borring's wrongful conduct. 50 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: And that's what's going on in Chicago. 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: There seems to be something obviously systemic wrong in the 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: Boeing company, in management, in the production, on the factory floor. 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: What have you found. I'm sure you've done a ton 54 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: of investigating and discovery. What's the general consensus. 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: Well, the general consensus is that when Boeing merged with 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: McDonald douglas that it went from being an engineer's company 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: to a company that was driven by the balance sheet 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: and the mass in the nbas the folks who are 59 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: interested in quarterly returns and in company profit and you 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: know the cliche of your sacrificing safety for profits. Now, 61 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: look what happens just today. The Max nine is going 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: back into service, but Boeing's production of that craft is 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: being limited to thirty eight as opposed to fifty. Their 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: stock went up today as in response to that news, 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: and the notion being that they were trying to push 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: out too many airplanes from the factory in order to 67 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: meet their profit expectations and the quarterly calls by the 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: analysts for better performance. And they're going back, hopefully to 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: a company that's going to be focused on quality, and 70 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: that's their chairman says, that's their plan. The FAA is 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: imposing that on them. And you know, a company like Boeing, 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: their stock one up today as a consequence of taking 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: better measures to ensure a safe production. 74 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: I think most normal people listening are saying, if there's 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: one industry that you don't want to put profits over quality, 76 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: it would be airplane manufacturing. 77 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean, and well, that's certainly true, but it's also true. 78 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, look, aviation transportation is very safe. I mean, 79 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: we have been in an unprecedented era of aviation safety, 80 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, but we've also when it goes wrong. You know, look, 81 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: the law of gravity is always in effect and there's 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: there are mass consequences to uh, these mistakes that are 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: being made. So you're right. Uh, it's a company and 84 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: it's an industry where failure is not an option, where 85 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: you must be uh uh, you know, uber diligent about 86 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: the quality of your product. And that's where they slipped 87 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: and failed us all. 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: I've been reading stories that people were conditioned not to 89 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: speak up if there were defects on the assembly line 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: in the factories, that everybody's. 91 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: Way, everybody looks the other way, and they cover for themselves. 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned discovery. You know, we took many 93 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: depositions of Boeing employees in Seattle. Uh, there's a protective order. 94 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 2: I can't get into the full detail, but I literally 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: asked a few of them how they slept at night 96 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: given what they did, and they said, oh, we slept fine. 97 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: I did my job. I did my job. Well, how 98 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: about we do our job? And that's the difference. 99 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: That's see, that's really scary. I understand people wanting to 100 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: protect their own jobs, but you know, you're building planes 101 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: here and you're seeing you're seeing things going on in 102 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: the production line that you know is going to lead 103 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: to a problem. Sometime, you can't. You can't cheat your 104 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: way forever. 105 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: Well, in fairness, I cannot say. And I don't know 106 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: of an incident where someone saw something knowingly wrong and 107 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: didn't speak up about it. I don't know anything about that. 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: What I'm specifically referring to, though, is people had their 109 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: head in their stands. It didn't operate as a coordinated 110 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: collaborative company. I'm doing my job in my silo and 111 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't care what the other guy's doing with his 112 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: job in his silo. That's not a way to run 113 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: any manufacturing process. 114 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: So what's the general public supposed to do? People listening 115 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: have flights bucked. See it's a Max eight, it's a 116 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: Max nine. They're hearing all the stories. What are we 117 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: supposed to do? And we're not aviation excerpts and we 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: can't do an inspection of the plane before we lift off. 119 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: No, I genuinely believe. Look, I represent the families and 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: aviation disasters for over forty years. I believe that it 121 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: is safe to fly today in a Max eight. The 122 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: fact is it's probably the safest airplane in the sky. 123 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: Given the scrutiny that has gone through the public should 124 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: not be afraid of flying. I think that all of 125 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: these terrible things that we've heard about in the last weeks, 126 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: in the end will benefit us all. But the fact 127 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: is that we also call it in my circle's graveyard engineering. 128 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: People died to make it safer for us. You know, 129 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: the cars are safer today because people died. You know, 130 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: you're out in California and in the Midwest. You know 131 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: you had the Corvet and the Pinto litigation starting out there. 132 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm driving in a safer Cardiday because the terrible things 133 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: that happened in California to go. The same is true 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: in the aviation industry. All these bad incidents in the 135 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: end make it safer for the next go round. But 136 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: it's a terrible tragedy that occurs to families when the 137 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: first event occurs, and you know, everyone talks about lawsuits 138 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe they're diverdicts are too big, and 139 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: so forth. If there's one thing I've learned is that 140 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: people can endure unending amounts of pain, suffering, sorrow, and 141 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: loss of life provided one thing prevails, and that is 142 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: that it's happening to someone else, I would not hesitate 143 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: to get on a match stake. I don't think anyone should. 144 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: I think the SAA, by the way, is going to 145 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: be better for us all given these incidents, because they've 146 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: been taken too much criticism for being apologists for Boeing, 147 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: and I think they're sick of it as an order 148 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: to say they should have been sick of it long ago, 149 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: and it took these terrible things for it to happen. 150 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: But the FAA is going to require far more scrutiny 151 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: of manufacturer. 152 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 153 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: six forty. 154 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Just talk to Bob Clifford, attorney based in Chicago, who 155 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: is still involved in lawsuits against Boeing dating back to 156 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen crash of a Boeing max A jet 157 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: in Ethiopia. There were two that crashed within months of 158 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: each other, months of each other, one in Indonesia, one 159 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: in Ethiopia, and he still has forty cases outstanding. He 160 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: was quoted, along with a number of others in a 161 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: long Sea at npiece that came out this week. Digging 162 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: came out just yesterday, digging into the hell's been going 163 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: on with Boweing all these years, and it's really simple. 164 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Everything all a lot of detail, but are all boils 165 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: down to money. Ed Pearson is a former Boeing executive. 166 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: Now he's the executive director of the Foundation for Aviation Safety. 167 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: So he told CNN that leadership is more concerned with 168 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: getting the planes out the door than quality. He said, 169 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: planes are still being produced today with flaws not being caught. 170 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: And here's some history behind Boeing. Do you know before 171 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union collapsed, there were fifty one major American 172 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: defense and aerospace contractors. Those of you who've been in 173 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Southern California a long time, no, how, Southern California was 174 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: the center of the world for aerospace. And then the 175 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Soviet Union collapsed and suddenly there was no not that 176 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: great a need for the product that they had been building. Here, 177 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: fifty one contractors shrunk to five. One of them was Boweing. 178 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Bulling then merged with McDonald douglas, and according to CNN, 179 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: while Boeing bought McDonald douglas, many of the executives were 180 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: McDonald douglas veterans. Most of them had financial backgrounds, not 181 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: engineering backgrounds. Boeing had been known as the engineering company, 182 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: so you had financial guys and then you had outsiders 183 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: from General Electric and at GE cost cutting efficiency. It 184 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: was like a cult. There makes you a lot of money. 185 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: But again we're talking planes here. They got a guy 186 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: from GE named Jim McNerney. He started at Procter and Gamble. 187 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Don't they produce toothpaste and shampoo? He was CEO of 188 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: three m h I think they mixed Scotch tape. I 189 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: know they do everything. I'm just being snarky. Then he 190 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: was told well, then he got the job to on Boeing, 191 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: but it became all about profits. Quality went out the door. 192 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Main competition is Airbus, and according to Richard ab Alethia, 193 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: he's an analyst of aerospace companies, one company says we're 194 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: going to build a lot of jets. That was Airbus. 195 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: The other is saying we're going to lobby of the 196 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: Pentagon in Congress for defense dollars. And then Boeing became 197 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: more dependent on their suppliers to build more and more 198 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: of its planes. We've talked about that. Other companies factories 199 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: all over the country, and after the pandemic and the 200 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: economic recession, a lot of senior workers were offered buyouts, 201 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: so they've lost a lot of expertise. None of this 202 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: is good news. There's not one thing in this story 203 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: that makes you feel good about the direction Boeing has 204 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: been going in for, you know, for years and years now. 205 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Now going back to Ed Pearson, former executive at Boeing, 206 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: he testified to Congress five years ago that there was 207 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: evidence that the seven thirty seven Max was having production 208 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: quality issues, planes being delivered to airlines that had faulty 209 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: hardware or other malfunctions, Planes that had more than a 210 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: dozen safety issues, which he said were serious. He said 211 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: the boss, in fact, he recommended a hat production of 212 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: the seven thirty seven Max and was told by a boss, 213 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: we can't do that. I can't do that. That's what 214 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: you know. I'm wondering about the chain of command. Everybody 215 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: knew that there were problems, and everybody said, well, you 216 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: can't do that because that would impact the profits for 217 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: the quarter. And there's an irony in that that I'll 218 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: get to it a minute. So then you had the 219 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: crash in Indonesia October twenty eighteen, the crash in Ethiopia 220 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. You know, like I mentioned before, that 221 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: cost Boeing twenty one billion dollars. So there's your profits 222 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: down the shore, twenty one billion dollars. Between payouts to 223 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: the victims and families the planes being grounded, you lost 224 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: all that income having to pay for a massive redesign. 225 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: After the first crash, Boeing pushed to keep the planes 226 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: in the air. They won that argument. After the second crash, 227 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: they still tried to keep them in the air, but 228 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: the FA finally put its foot down on it, and 229 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: Pearson says it was obvious after the second crash that 230 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Boeing executives were more concerned with continued production rather than 231 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: finding the cause of the crash and fixing it. They 232 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't even want to look. They didn't even want to look. 233 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: They want to fix it, just want to get the 234 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: planes back up there. And one employee they found some 235 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: internal memos employees writing to each other during the seven 236 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven max grounding should One employee described the jet 237 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: as you'll like this debor designed by clowns, who in 238 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: turn are supervised by monkeys. 239 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: That's insane. 240 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Please come on board. That's a guy on the inside 241 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: who works there. 242 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: We probably do a better job Yeah, that's pretty scary. 243 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'll take on any clown or monkey designed 244 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: by clowns supervised by monkeys. By the way, as far 245 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: as profits are concerned, air Bus is going to report 246 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: four point seven billion dollars in profit for twenty twenty three. 247 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Boeing is going to report a loss of three point 248 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: six billion dollars. So all this work for profits and 249 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: they're losing billions of dollars. That's on top of the 250 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: twenty one billion they already lost. You know what, that's 251 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: just stupid. That's not putting profits over safety. That's just 252 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: being a clown and a monkey. We're coming up. Oh, 253 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: what do we got coming next? I know we got something. Oh, oh, 254 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: this is important. Oh geez. Proposition one's going to be 255 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: on the ballot. This is going to borrow six billion 256 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: dollars for mental health care for all the homeless people. 257 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: And there's a you know, we've spent billions right here 258 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: in La La City and County, billions of dollars on 259 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: these propositions, and everything got worse. And Shannon Grove is 260 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: a Republican state senator and she's usually on the right 261 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: side of things, and she is for Proposition one. There's 262 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans joining Newsom in the Democrats to 263 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: promote this proposition, which is on the ballot in March. 264 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: Why should we trust this? Well, I'm going to ask 265 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: Shannon Grove that when we come back, you're. 266 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: Listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am six 267 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: forty on the radio one until four. 268 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: Then after four o'clock it's John Cobelt Show on demand 269 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app. You could listen to what you 270 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: missed and moistline. There's vacancy's eighty seven seven moist eighty 271 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: six eight seven seven Moist eighty six. We're going to 272 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: talk with State Senator Shannon Grove on Republican and Shannon 273 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: we've talked with a number of times, and and she 274 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: she had she actually won a big victory a while 275 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: back to intensify the penalties for child sex trafficking in 276 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: this state. She ran into a roadblock with the public 277 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: safety committees in the legislature, and she she really created 278 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: a storm of public pressure and and got that pass. 279 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: So now, uh, these these andies will carry some real 280 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: prison time with them. Let's talk to Shannon though about 281 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: something entirely different. Gavin Newsom has a proposition on the 282 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: ballot called Proposition one, and this is going to spend 283 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: We're going to borrow billions of dollars and strengthen all 284 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the mental health programs and the drug abuse programs to 285 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: treat a lot of the homeless people that are all 286 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: over the streets. And I want to talk to her 287 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: about this because she and Gavin Newsom are not natural allies, 288 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: and I'm really skeptical of Proposition one. And I'll explain that. 289 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: Let's get Shannon on here. Welcome. How are you day? 290 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Im good? 291 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: How are you? What happened to your counterparts? 292 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: Ken? Ken went off into the wilderness. He decided to retire. 293 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: So what are we going to call this show? Is 294 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 5: it going to be the John and John Show? 295 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: It's just well, I don't want to call it the 296 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: John Show because it makes it sound like a toilet, 297 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: that John Cobalt show. That's so I got somebody has 298 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: a better idea. I'll take it. Shannon. Now you got 299 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot of credibility because I thought what you did 300 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: was brilliant and getting the sex Trafficking Bill to strengthen 301 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: the penalties last year on those felonies. 302 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 5: You know you gave me a lot of credit. You 303 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: gave me a lot of credit for that right now, 304 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: and I appreciate that. But if it wasn't for the media, 305 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 5: if it wasn't for the media, it wasn't for Ashley, 306 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: if it wasn't for you guys, if it wasn't for 307 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 5: the media, that Bill would have died a very slow 308 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: and quiet, fast, quiet death. But you guys pushed that out. 309 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: The people of the state of California got outraged that 310 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 5: selling children for six in California was not considered a 311 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 5: serious felony and people would get sentenced to twelve years 312 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 5: and get out in three. I mean, you guys did that, 313 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: and we could not do these things without you. 314 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. So I'm turning to you to explain 315 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: to me this. Now. You know, you're a Bakersfield Republican 316 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: and Newsom and you probably don't overlap on too many issues. 317 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: And this Proposition one is going to spend a lot 318 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: of money. And here's where I'm coming from. We've seen 319 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: here in La La City and County, we had two 320 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: propositions a few years back, Proposition H and HH, billions 321 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: of dollars spent on homeless. Everything got worse it helped 322 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: fund a massive homeless industrial complex where these nonprofits are 323 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: paying their executives six figure salaries and nothing is getting 324 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: better on the streets. So my first reaction to this 325 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: is this going to be a state version of all 326 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: the failed programs that are in La City and County. 327 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: So it better not be. The bottom line is that 328 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 5: the counties have not some counties have not done a 329 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: good job. And if you look at that statement that 330 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: I made in the La Times, the quote is he 331 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: he meaning Gavin Newsom has wasted a lot of money, 332 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: But he has and I called him out. I said 333 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: that on the floor, and I've said that publicly. He 334 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 5: has wasted a lot of money. But I drive down 335 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: Twelfth Street and there are literally people naked in the 336 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 5: streets or with a hospital gown with no clothes on. 337 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: It's thirty two degrees. They're talking to the sky. Those 338 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: people don't even know they are on the street. Then 339 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 5: you run across the United States military veterans that have 340 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: put their hand in the air just to defend this country, 341 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 5: and they are on the streets and they're living in 342 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: a makeshift tent or some kind of veteran compound. You know, 343 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: put together in a park where veterans are sticking together, 344 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 5: and this this I don't want to say lastish effort, 345 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 5: but this actual proposition is supposed to give a billion 346 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: dollars to United States military veterans, and I want a 347 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 5: seat at the table so I can hold them accountable 348 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: of what they're spending the money on and be a 349 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 5: part of the solution to get veterans and those they're 350 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 5: chronically ill off the street. I don't condone the waste 351 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: of money they had. I know there's been problems that 352 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 5: the bottom line is is that this allows us to 353 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: move money, build beds, get people inside that need to 354 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 5: be inside. I'm not talking about the people who stand 355 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: on the corner and bed that should go out and 356 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: get a job because they're totally capable. I'm talking about 357 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 5: the chronically mentally ill United States Military veterans that we 358 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 5: deserve to deserve a better treatment from this state than 359 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: what they're being treated. Yeah, that's why I'm involved in this. 360 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: Right the al Time says there should be ten thousand 361 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: new treatment beds for people with drug addictions mental health issues. 362 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: We're borrowing six billion dollars here. On the surface, I 363 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: think if people read the title and summary, they probably 364 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: vote for this. I think polling shows that it gets 365 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: a favorable reaction from people. But you know, I don't 366 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: automatically look at these things and say, oh, that's worded 367 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: so beautifully. Sure, I've seen one happens. I mean, you 368 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: look at like the high speed rail boondoggle, the two 369 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: propositions here in La County, the way Prop forty seven 370 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: was sold, and I personally don't want to be snookered again. 371 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: And I just feel like I don't know what it 372 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: would take to convince me that we can trust this 373 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: crowd that they're going to take the six billion dollars 374 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: and we're going to see these people helped. 375 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: So just I mean, so to my knowledge, none of 376 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: us have been at the table on the previous spond 377 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 5: measures and the allocation that's gone. Out my knowledge, we 378 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 5: weren't able to participate in who got contracts or whatever 379 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 5: the case may be, and have and I don't know 380 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: that we'll have that this time. I'm just telling you 381 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 5: that we have a seat at the table. It makes 382 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: me sick to my stomach. This is the great state 383 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: of California, and we look like a third world country 384 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 5: in some of these homeless encampments and what's going on. 385 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: Again. 386 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 5: Being the first female veteran that's ever been involved in 387 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: the ever been elected to the state legislature, I want 388 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 5: to stand up for United States military veterans. And when 389 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: I saw billion dollars on the table and I visited 390 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 5: that veterans camp that was down there across from the 391 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 5: Veterans Facility, this is completely unacceptable and I'm going to 392 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: do everything I can to secure that billion dollars for 393 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: good housing for veterans that have served our country. 394 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: So if we borrow this money, spend this money, how 395 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: long will it take before people are getting treated? Because 396 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: do they have to build mental health centers? They have 397 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: to build you know, drug abuse clinics, and what do 398 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: you do for the people who really are crazy, really 399 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: addicted to drugs and they don't want to go inside. 400 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of details that have to 401 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 5: be worked out, but again, you want to be at 402 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 5: the table when they're working out these details. It's some 403 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 5: of that money from counties will be reallocated to this program, 404 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: so it's not a total bond for six point four 405 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: billion dollars. So there's already bond approved moneys from previous 406 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 5: bond measures that are going to be reallocated because it's 407 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 5: not working. The money that is spent right now is 408 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 5: not working. And my goal is to be a voice 409 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 5: of you know, to be a voi of common sense 410 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 5: and reality and bring up new things that maybe they 411 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 5: haven't talked about, like why aren't we partnering with organizations 412 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying this organization, I'm just saying organizations 413 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 5: for our veterans, similar to like tunnel the Towers or 414 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: other organizations that know how to build veterans housing at 415 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 5: a low cost and making sure that there's wrap around 416 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 5: services for these veterans. Why do we have to reinvent 417 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: the wheel. Why can't we partner with organizations that already 418 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 5: do this very well. My concern on this, and when 419 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 5: the governor came out and allocated a billion dollars of 420 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 5: this money to go to veterans, was to fight like 421 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: a rabid dog for that billion dollars to go to 422 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: veterans that are on the street. Get them off the street, 423 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 5: get them the mental health services, maybe get them jobs 424 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: and get them into productive to be more productive members 425 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: of society instead of what's happening to what's happening to 426 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 5: them on the streets. That's my game in this That's 427 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 5: what I'm going to stand up and do, and I 428 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: will fight tooth and nail to make sure we get 429 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: every dime that we can for those veterans to get 430 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: them off the street. 431 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: All right, Shannon, I got to do the news. I'll 432 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: tell you this. If this passes, and I think it 433 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: probably will, would you come on and tell us if 434 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: you're running into roadblocks and that the money isn't getting 435 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: where it should go, or the programs aren't actually working 436 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: and or come on and tell us that that things 437 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: are working out and here's why it's better. 438 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 5: My hope, yeah, my hope is it will work out. 439 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 5: My hope is to stand up in the room and 440 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 5: shout out as loud as I can that you can't 441 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: give millions of dollars like the pilot program in San 442 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 5: Francisco that helped four people. You can't pay these nonprofits 443 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: in these organizations you know, fix figure incomes and nothing's 444 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 5: getting delivery direct care to services. My goal is to 445 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: make sure number one, I focused on the United States 446 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: military veterans and then the people that are on the street. 447 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 5: I went to Costco the other day by ARII little 448 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 5: lady an African American and hospital gown, nothing on underneath, 449 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 5: standing in the parking lot, turning circles. She doesn't even 450 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: know she's on the street. Yeah, and it's cool. That 451 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 5: is cruel and we are California and we need to 452 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 5: do something about it. Aren't the avenue we have to do. 453 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 5: We're going to fight. 454 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: It's a deal. I want you to come on the 455 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: show and tell us what you see, what you know, 456 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: and if things aren't working, this is your megaphone. All right, 457 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. 458 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: You got it. 459 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 460 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: six forty. 461 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: One of the strong candidates for LA County District Attorney 462 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: is John McKinney. He's a Deputy DA and we've talked 463 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: with him a number of times and he got some 464 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: good news. And if you're planning to vote, this is 465 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: relevant information. The LA County Assistant District Attorneys did their 466 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: own poll. They three hundred and fifty five of the 467 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: Assistant das voted in this. You know, it's like a 468 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: straw poll, and sixty four percent said John McKinney be 469 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: the next district attorney. So these are all prosecutors and 470 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: they were asked basically, uh, choose your next boss. Who 471 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: would you want? And sixty four percent said John McKinney. 472 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk to John about that, coming 473 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: up after three o'clock, all right. So it was just 474 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: is Eric ready on the line? Anybody is Eric coming on? Yes? Okay. 475 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: Eric Sklarr is our technical director. And it was just 476 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that Ray Lopez was out 477 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: for a while because he got RSV, that respiratory virus, 478 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: and he said it was worse than COVID. And Ray 479 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: should know he's had COVID three times. Now are our 480 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: technical director, Eric Sklarr? He got he got the COVID 481 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: and it's amazing. How many times have you had COVID? Now? 482 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Is this twice? Hey? 483 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 6: This is my second time. Yeah, this is my second. 484 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Time, So between you and five times? 485 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 6: Yes, Yes. I was at a I was at a 486 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 6: wedding over the weekend and someone decided to show up 487 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 6: after testing positive on Tuesday last week. The wedding was Saturday, 488 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 6: and I had the lucky draw of sitting next to 489 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 6: the person who decided to show up after testing positive 490 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 6: on Tuesday. 491 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh, she didn't mention it to you during dinner, did she? 492 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: Well? 493 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: No, So I was at the welcome party Friday night. Yeah, 494 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 6: and I saw my fraternity brother and I was like, Oh, 495 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 6: where's your girlfriend? And he was like, Oh, she's home sick. 496 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 6: She's had COVID all week, blah blah blah. Hopefully she's 497 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 6: feeling better and can come tomorrow. She wakes up Saturday, 498 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 6: the morning of the wedding, she's feeling fine and decides 499 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 6: to come to the wedding. And now I'm probably one 500 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 6: of I think ten plus people that have gotten sick. 501 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: A super spreader event from one woman, a big time 502 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: super spreader event. 503 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: Were you hugging her? Eric, I mean, were you that close? 504 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: Well, I have the love of sitting. 505 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 6: I had the lucky jobs sitting next to them during 506 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 6: the ceremony, and yeah, of course I was talking with that. 507 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: I said hug and I gave her up. 508 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, I gave her a hug. 509 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Did you dance with her? 510 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: No? No, I'm not going to dance with my friend's girlfriend. 511 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: Well, Eric, I'm being selfish for asking that, because yesterday 512 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: you came in and handed me John's life reads and 513 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: we Okay, how long were you with that woman? 514 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: Now hold on a second, which one of us went 515 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: on a plane knowing that they had COVID? 516 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: People talk about that I wore, I wore a mass. 517 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: I uh. I just can't believe how many times collectively 518 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: everybody's gotten this and the R S V and John. 519 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, you've never had COVID. 520 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: Never tested ray not one. 521 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I never. I never got sick, so 522 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: if I had it, I might have been a symptomatic. 523 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: They say ninety seven percent of people got it, but 524 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people had no symptoms, and I'm guessing 525 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: them in that category. Yeah. 526 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 6: I mean, luckily, my symptoms haven't been too bad. Yesterday 527 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 6: I had a fever of one hundred and one point two, 528 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 6: but I haven't had a fever at all today, so 529 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 6: that's good. 530 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: So how long are you going to be out? 531 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 6: At least till Monday Tuesday? My doctor said I need 532 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 6: to quarantine till Tuesday at least, But if I'm feeling 533 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 6: better by Sunday, then I don't know. 534 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. 535 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've relaxed the rules on that. I just noticed 536 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: the other day. 537 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well that's exactly why. 538 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 7: Anywhere it was like you were it goes all your fault, 539 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 7: like you're like you're a dirty person, like you have 540 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 7: a like you got the clap or something right, well 541 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 7: for you maybe. 542 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I mean the CBC says five days now, 543 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 8: and I guess Tuesday to Saturday, five days. But she 544 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 8: was still able to spread it to a bunch of people. 545 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, look, I'm just gonna I don't care 546 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: what day you come back. I'm just gonna stay away. 547 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're lucky then, So no more Instagram Live. 548 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: I guess. 549 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I was thinking about. How many 550 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: times you came in on Monday to set up the 551 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: iPad for the Instagram Live shoots. Oh no, it's like, yeah, 552 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: that's how I'm going to get it and die because 553 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: of Instagram Live. That's great, all right, Eric, will help 554 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: you feel better better. 555 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 8: I feel better, Thank you, guys, Thank you, all right. 556 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Eric Sklar, technical director on the Disabled List. I and 557 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: Ray I don't think we've all all of us have 558 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: been together this first month of the year for more 559 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: than a couple of days. I know. 560 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Ken had it right by doing the 561 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 7: show from home for two years yeah, I know three 562 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 7: three and a half. No, he left in March twenty twenty. 563 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 7: It never came back. Still asn't come back. When we 564 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 7: come back. 565 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: John McKinney assisted deputy, I'm sorry, what do they call them? 566 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 6: As? 567 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Assistant District attorney? And three hundred and fifty five prosecutors 568 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: voted on who they would like their new boss to be, 569 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: and sixty four percent picked John McKinney, one point seven 570 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: percent picked George Gascone. There are six people in the 571 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: La County Prosecutor's office that pick gascon. Tell you about 572 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: that when we come back, or we're talking to John McKinney. Hey, 573 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 574 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 575 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 576 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.