1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Hey. The Black Market is an initiative created by any 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: five Self Media to highlight, amplify, and showcase leaders, entrepreneurs, 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: and educators from our community. The show tapes monthly at 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: our studio in Atlanta, Georgia. To submit you or your 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: organization for consideration, go to eighty five self show dot 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: com backslash black Market Free. Yeah you already know this 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: is a special one for me, man, you mean special 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: special one for me. Man, hold on, man one drop, 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: lady drop, ladies, keep doing got We don't need to 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: be that man. We got to work front of you off, sweetheart. 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm just making sure you have a little stream. You know, 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: we're getting you straight over, making it right. But like 13 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I said, man, this is a very special one for 14 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: me because you know, as as everybody knows, it's eighty 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: five percenters, I'm going to raising Washington d C. Stop playing. Yes, 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: indeed uptown the big Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: ain't know, but this dude right here is a product 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: of Washington d C. Um. You know, a lot of 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: people are big on activism and and being walking helping 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: black people now, but it's a lot of people that's 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: been doing it before. It was cool, and this brother 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: is one of the man He's from a neighborhood that 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with. I went to high school done 24 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: By High School that's you know, close to this neighborhood. 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: And this dude has always been active, always been a 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: product of trying to stop a lot of the violence 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that go on in 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: our city. And it's being a helping hand to the streets. 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: And it's something that I think needs to be. You know, 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: a spotlight needs to be put on this brother man, 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: a bigger one that already has. Man. So I need 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: everybody that's in here to make some noise from my 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: big home. Tony. Look, it goes without saying, but that's 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: exactly what this platform is for. That is the show 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: love and respect to the people that we love in respect. Man. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: So we'll to the trap. South Chicko holds you very 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: high regards. So you know, um, we'll tell him a 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: little bit about who you are. Background. I'm from the 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Nature's Capital. Um. I've been a a voice, a supportive 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: pill in the community for the last twenty one years. 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm forty, right, So that's that's half my life. The 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: work saved my life. Um. But but my history as 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: relates to Washington. UM, I come from you know, and 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I say this with all you know, so the difference 45 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: in humility and not I'm not somebody to glorify any 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: of that. But I come from a street hand over 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: place that was anonymous of the drug trade, really sort 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: of the first open air drug market, and I see 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: uh and my family members were very responsible for that, 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: right Uh. And my father would would grow to be again. 51 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: You know, somebody who was regarded as a drug kingpin 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: went to prison when I was nine years old on 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the biggest drug conspiracy in the history of our city. Um. 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: You know, I got life without the possibily parole right, 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: been in prison thirty two years. Uh. That was significant 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: for me. Uh, changed the trajectory of my life. My mother, 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Uh pretty much you know, start the battle seven mental 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: illness we're growing up in. And the d C. You know, 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: Crack impacted the whole country, every urban community in the country, 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: but nowhere. Uh it didn't impact anywhere like what he 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: did the d C. Right. Um, you know when we 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: talk about inconsperration rates, addiction, uh, murder rates, UM, infomortality, 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: all of the all of that data speaks to how 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: to crack epidemic. Uh punished us in our generation, right, Um. 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: And so I was able to navigate through something that 66 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: most people wasn't weren't you know what I'm saying. Um, 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: And and being able to become a public servant violence interrupted, 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: being able to become the person that women and women 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: return from inconceerration that I was there along with others 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: obviously right to help get people stayed, able to uh 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: make sure that when those mothers and fathers returned to 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the community, they wouldn't leave again. Um. Somebody who's who 73 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: spoke up you know in the correlation between another thing, 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: DC has become so the gentrification capital or the country right, 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and it is a is a real parallel between being 76 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: the crack capital or in the murder capital through the 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: nineties and now where we're seeing with gentrification. So I've 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: been a bridge, I've been a translator. Um, I've been um, 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: somebody who has ensured that legislation and policy changed in 80 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: order to preserve the protect Yeah, because it's not just 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: about making noise with me, right, ain't just about making noise. 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: It's about being able to deliver solutions and holding people 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: that are in positions to change things accountable for doing that. Um. 84 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: We've in in the age of social media, which is 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: an amazing thing, right, I don't I love it? Right. 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: I think it is is able enabled people to connect, 87 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: which is beautiful. But I think, Um, I come from 88 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: a place where activism is personal. Activism is something you 89 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: do every day. Um. And you gotta have a base, right. 90 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: So if you walk through d C people out, they 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: may never heard of me. But if you walk through 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: d C with me, UM, you know, I'm probably one 93 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: of the most recognizable people because I've helped people, right, 94 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: thousands of people. I've helped them. People from Grandma to 95 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: the kids, to the uncle who just came home from 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: doing thirty years. I've done something for them. UM. And 97 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I say that to say this, UM, is that I 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: take a lot of pride in that, right Um. And 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: sometimes the work and being so attached and connected to 100 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: the to the issues, it's really gotten a way sometimes 101 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: of me being able to do things like this. So 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy, um, and honored to be here. Uh. 103 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: And I really salute and respect what you guys do. UM. 104 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: You said something that stuck out to me. You say 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you're violence interrupt them. Yeah, yeah, before you even go, 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I want to say something to that too. That's the 107 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: point that I was great, make uh. In the city 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: that we come from, d C is a very violent 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: city by nature, you know what I mean. We grow up, 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, very valent. You know what I'm saying. I 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: come out of the streets and was active and lost 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: plenty of family members that you know that I love 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: the whole dear to me that and shed blood in 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: those streets. And what a lot of people don't understand 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: is we have a hard time respected people who don't 116 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: come from where we come from and don't understand the 117 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: things that we go through. No matter where you're from. 118 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: You could be an activist from Atlanta or activists from Chica, 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: but if you don't know the streets of DC and 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: how things operating the d C were not trying to 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: hear that. So him being a person that can say 122 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: he's a valid violence interrupter, it speaks to his character 123 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: because he comes from the streets and he's respected in 124 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: that space. So when he walks into these neighborhoods, people 125 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: look at him as somebody who understands what we're going through. 126 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: And we're dealing with you know what I mean that 127 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: under that it's not just coming in for the photo, 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: coming in and be able to say I was here 129 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: and I did this for a quota. He actually coming 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: in because he understands that what you're going through, I'm 131 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: going through. And if you lose your uncle or your 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: brother and sister, I know what you're gonna feel because 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I felt that pain and that's very rare in our city. 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: So no, yeah, I appreciate that, but that's that's it. Right. 135 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: And so being able to be in a position to 136 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: save lives right or at least attempt right, to have 137 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: that sort of buy in and connectivity where at least 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: somebody would come to the table at least to try 139 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: to squash something right that could lead to somebody losing 140 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: their life, and then growing that to being able to 141 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: influence legislation that would create programming that because so now 142 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: when I walk in the community or there's other people 143 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: that came behind me, being able to have something actually 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: to offer to right, so put put that gun down 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: or pick this up? Right, Having programming as leading to 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: UH family sustaining employment, entrepreneur you opportunities and grants for businesses, 147 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: um housing, support things of that new tech right where 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: it's comprehensive, and because we really