1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Herbert from the right hash mctaukee in motion settles in 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: a slot right Herbert looking to throw and now shovel 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: passes has. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Haskins Paskins on his horse, twenty to the ten, to 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: the five, to the end zone Touchstowe Hudgers Posson Haskins 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: with some wolverine magic parking in back to his college 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: days when he rushed for twenty touchdowns. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Under Jim Arbaugh. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Somebody forgot to tell Justin Herbert his ankle's hurt. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 4: That was our friend Matt money Smith and our Friendemy 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 4: Danielle Jeremiah on Ky Sr. Yes, the Chargers with a 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 4: second half comeback. Great performance by Justin Herbert puts it away. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: Thirty four to twenty seven. Welcome to NFL Daily, presented 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: by Uber Eats. We start the show with friends on 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: the radio, and now we welcome one of my friends, 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: one of my favorites in the business, Mina Chimes of 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: the Mina Chimes Show featuring Lenny and many other programs 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: we can get to later. Thank you Mina forgiving me 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: and given the show some good luck, some juice. This 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: Chargers Broncos game. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a good game. I think at one 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 5: point maybe in the first half. Actually, I texted you, 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 5: this is actually fun. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: I guess. 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 5: I don't know why I didn't think it would be, 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 5: you know, I guess coming off of the dud that 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: the Chargers put up last week against Tampa and even 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: though Denver wan it didn't look great against Indianapolis Boeniques 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 5: had a tough performance. So I was a little bit 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: underwhelmed headed into this. But I mean, you know, Stefan voice, 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 5: this game had everything. It even had a free kick, 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: which I feel like we could spend They're all thirty 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: minutes just talking about that. 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: Yes we should, and we will get to that. And 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: as great a topic it was for Blue Sky and 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: just a bizarre moment. It was the first free kick 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: since nineteen seventy six, so most of the people listening 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: and watching were not alive for the last one. 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: It actually was a key moment of the game. 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: Kind of a mistake by Sean Payton gave the Chargers 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: a chance for that free kick, and then a penalty 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: did as well. We'll get into that more, but that 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: was three free points right before halftime. That absolutely made 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: a difference. But I think we just have to start 45 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: with our guy Herbo because we thought he came into 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: this game with an ankle injury. I'm sure he did, 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 4: but his legs were a huge part of the story. 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: Before he took about negative twenty yards during that weird 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: final sequence where they're trying to run out the clock, 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: he had over forty five yards rushing and really key 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 4: moments of the game, and his mobility on some of 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: the throws he made just reminded us of why we 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 4: love Justin Herbert. And not to get too weird about it, 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: but it's like one team had a great quarterback having 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: one of the best games of his season and the 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: other team had a rookie quarterback, and it really did 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: feel like a difference on a night where these two 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: teams look pretty even. 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: Otherwise, Yeah, it impacted how the two coaches approached the game, 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 5: and we can get to the fourth down decision at 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: the end, but overall, was a very conservative game plan 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: for Denver, unsurprisingly that's how they've approached a lot of 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: the season. But so many throws behind the line of 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 5: scrimmage in this one for bo Nicks, whereas with the Chargers, 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: you know, they I think at one point had a 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: play action rate of almost sixty percent, which I love 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: because they kind of it was like Greg Roman was like, wait, 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: I don't have to run the ball. I can just 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: keep calling play action over and over and over. And 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: it was working. But it was also working, Greg, not 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 5: because the linebackers were full. There was a point in 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: this game, not even like pretty early the second half, 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: where the Denver defense was clearly like they were like, oh, 74 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: he's not getting this off. But Herbert was using that 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: mobility you talked about to evade the rush on play action, 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: including on the final touchdown. Like a lot of those 77 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: play action passes were not him in a NIXE and 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: pristine pocket. It was him evading pressure as he so 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: often does and getting off really difficult passes. 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: Yeah thought, I thought his health, his relative mobility ended 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: up being such a huge part of this game because 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: the Broncos ended up only pressuring him on thirty percent 83 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: of their dropbacks. 84 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: They only blitz them. 85 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: According to next Gens, that's twenty seven zero point eight percent, 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: and that's because when they did blitz him, sometimes you're 87 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: playing into his hands, and that happened in their first meeting, 88 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: where it was more long, slow drives. But he's so 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: smart and they're well coached. And he went six for 90 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: six for over one hundred yards against the Blitz and 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: it made Vance Joseph back off for a lot of 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: the game, and I thought the pass protection really hold 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: held up. This was a great game for the Chargers 94 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: offensive line, which to me has been up and down. 95 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: It's been flat out bad in the running game, and 96 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: it wasn't rate tonight, and they didn't try to run 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: that much, but they at least did what they did 98 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: earlier in the season where they popped one big one 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: late with Gus Edwards, and they really protected Herbert well 100 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: when it was four man rushes, and for the most part, 101 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: he did find enough open receivers. We got our guy 102 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 4: lad going crazy. Josh Palmer made a couple of plays 103 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: and they made an eleven point comeback. They were down 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: twenty four to thirteen in this game. That was not 105 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: a game that the Chargers would have won, I think 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: at any other point in the Justin Herbert era. 107 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: The receiving chart for both of these teams is hilarious 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 5: because I think you and I both follow the NFL 109 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 5: pretty closely. You host an NFL daily podcast. There's guys 110 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: I haven't heard of hand up on both these teams, 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: like who we're catching passes, Tucker Fisk anyone the Chargers? 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: Did you know? 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: Was that A I'm not. I just just don't spart 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: by this point, I'm aware of And these are. 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: Guys that we learned in like the last two weeks 116 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: basically where they've had to come up, which is true 117 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: of this team, like on both sides all it's a 118 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: little while. 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, neither side I thought had a real edge in terms. 120 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 5: I mean, Broncos have Courtland Sutton, who's very different style 121 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: of player from lad McConkey. I would maybe put them 122 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 5: have them comparable in terms of like usefulness though obviously 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: very different players. But beyond that it's been flimpickens for 124 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: both of these guys. I do want to go back 125 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: to the Herbert playmaking and mobility thing though, because you know, 126 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 5: I've always really been a huge fan of Herbert's games game. 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: Pardon me, I am a Herbert defender. Even during the 128 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: Great Herbert two Awars of twenty twenty two. 129 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: Not everyone survived. 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: There's some bodies, but even I missed my love for 131 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: his game. While I always believed in him and his 132 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: unbelievable talent and his processing. As you said, watching him 133 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 5: at some point it feels like you're like watching a 134 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: football terminator, going like what four boom boom boom. There 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 5: have been moments and I felt this way at times 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: last year, like where I just wanted him to go 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 5: into fit mode and be a bit more of a 138 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: playmaker because he's such an incredible athlete. He's gigantic and 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 5: he's fast, and that's one thing I really just loved 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: about this performance of his is I feel like this 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: is the Herbert that maybe some of us have been 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: waiting for for a while. 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a good call because the situation of the game, 144 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: how much they needed it, and we can finish with 145 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: all the playoff probabilities, but the Broncos missed the chance 146 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: to clinch their playoffs and they could be sweating out 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: depending on some other results, and the Chargers are now 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: really in the driver's seat. They only need one more 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: win or potentially even could get in this weekend if 150 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: they get a bunch of losses. I totally agree, because 151 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 4: they're trailing in this game and the passing game is okay, 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: but it's a little erratic and it felt a little 153 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: Mahomes that he ran when he absolutely needed to run, 154 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: and they got fortunate. They had a couple penalties, one 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: on a late hit on Herbert, but that was after 156 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: he ran. If I'm I'm right, Yeah, sometimes that happens, 157 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: so he helped force that, and then another on just 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: a horse collar on what would have been a sack, 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: which was a big play in this game. 160 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: But he absolutely went into fit mode. 161 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: Let's actually listen to our friend Matt money Smith again 162 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: on the go ahead touchdown. 163 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 6: Edwards in the backfield, Darius Davis in motion Herbert to throw. 164 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 7: Pump fakes s out of the enzode pot touchdown shotgers 165 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 7: sterious Davis a whole shot from justin herbert left sideline 166 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 7: of the episode twenty yards. 167 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: Oh that was so sweet? 168 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: Can you I just want to hear Mina Kaimes Cook 169 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: on that play because that that was kind of the 170 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: play that put this game over the top for him. 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was supposed to be mesh concept. I think 172 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: McConkey was running because they had hit him on the 173 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 5: overs and the crosses a couple of times, and immediate 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 5: pressure forces Herbert off of his spot, so he's rolling left. 175 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 5: And this is so important to emphasize the difficulty, the 176 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: physical difficulty of what he did, going full speed to 177 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: his left with a defender bearing down on him, sort 178 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 5: of half flipping his hips and then hitting that whole shot. 179 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: A tear drop of a throw, a perfect pass over 180 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 5: another defender. That is like a point zero zero zero 181 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 5: five level of difficulty throw. I was so glad they 182 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: showed it from the end zone view immediately after, because 183 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: you kind of you could see that right when it happened, 184 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 5: but you, as with so many Herbert throws, you really 185 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: have to see the end zone view to appreciate how 186 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 5: difficult it is what he does, and it was unbelievable. 187 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 5: That's one of the best throws. I mean, I've seen 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: him make him know, he's made some of the craziest 189 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 5: throws of the last five years, but I would put 190 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: that up there with a lot of his best throws. 191 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, and considering the situation, this has been one of 192 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 4: the best. Yeah, that was one of the I think 193 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: that was the biggest play of the game. I think 194 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: this was the biggest moment of their season thus far. 195 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: To me, as I wouldn't call myself a Chargers fan, 196 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 4: but I went from Philip Rivers to Justin Herbert. I'm 197 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: always kind of pulling for them as kind of one 198 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: of my teams. This felt like a game they wouldn't 199 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: have won in the past, and the first real moment 200 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: where it's like, yeah, it's different. They're building something in 201 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: the Jim Harbot Chargers are just a little different. It's 202 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: only their second win against the winning team, and the 203 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 4: only other one was against Denver. These two teams have 204 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: been scheduled merchants. They were combined two and ten. I 205 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: saw the Amazon graphic against winning teams, which is crazy, 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: and now it's three and eleven, I guess, and two 207 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: of those are against each other, so I know they 208 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: have more to do. But I just think there was 209 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: like a toughness and an intelligence to the play calling 210 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball because you mentioned not 211 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: knowing the receivers and both these offensive coaches are great, 212 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 4: but one of them has Justin Herbert to work with 213 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 4: in the other has a rookie quarterback who's working through it. 214 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: What do you think about bo Nix's performance, because it's funny. 215 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: It's such a perfect example of box score scouting because 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: their lines are very similar. You know, Knicks threw nine 217 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 4: more passes for less yards, twenty nine for forty, but 218 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: he has two touchdowns. Like you know, if you care 219 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: about quarterback rating and completion percentage, he's off the charts 220 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 4: with that tonight. And Herbert was similar, except he's the 221 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 4: one that actually made the one big mistake in the game. 222 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: He had an interception when they were trying to go 223 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: score and it was a great, great defensive play. But 224 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: he ends up with two hundred and eighty four and 225 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,359 Speaker 4: two touchdowns. So I thought Nicks it was a conservative 226 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: game plan, Like, how did you think though he played 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 4: within that game plan and beyond it. 228 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: You know, in the first half there was a point 229 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: where I think when they were up twenty one points, 230 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 5: and I posted this on Bluska, he had something like 231 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: two point one air yards per attempt, right, And I 232 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 5: guess I didn't mean that as Nick Slander. Actually meant 233 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: it as a too complimentary of the Broncos offense, because 234 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: at that point, greg I was feeling like, certainly that 235 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 5: the Broncos were in control, but I also felt like 236 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: Sean Payton was calling a hell of a game. I 237 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 5: mean that first drive, they just ran it down their throats, 238 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 5: which has been a vulnerability for this Chargers defense their 239 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: worst defensive performances. I've been against teams that could run 240 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: the ball well against Tampa recently, Baltimore, two very good 241 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 5: rushing teams come to mind, and Denver's been, you know 242 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: a little bit up and down the run game. But 243 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 5: at that point, I thought, oh, okay, they're kind of 244 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 5: following the formula for that, and I thought mc nicks. 245 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: He didn't make any super high degree of difficulty throws, 246 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: but as he has all year, he made some good 247 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: throws on the move. That's definitely when he's best. Peyton 248 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 5: leans into that. He made good decisions. There were a 249 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: couple times in the first half where he turned down 250 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 5: covered throws and I thought it was the right call, 251 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: and you had checked downs and swing passes that were 252 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 5: going for significant yardage. The Mims swing, I think was 253 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: the one where it was a great play call from 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: Peyton where he came across in motion I think went 255 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 5: for like fifty plus yards or whatever. 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: But fifty four and that was such a like typical sequence. 257 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: They had just picked up a third and long on 258 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: a dump off. Like their third and long's or third 259 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 4: and mediums were so easy for them against this Chargers defense, 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: which is short a number of players. 261 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: And then I think what happened in the second half, 262 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: there was a few things. I do think they kind 263 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: of abandoned the run a little bit at times, particularly 264 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: in the third quarter. I thought Mentor started turning up 265 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 5: the heat, and that's when you kind of saw a 266 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: little bit more of the rookie come out some you know, hesitation, 267 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: a couple of misses here and there, and those are 268 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 5: the moments when a veteran quarterback of certainly one of 269 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: Herbert's caliber, can kind of make the plays rather than 270 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: just executing the offense. And he wasn't able to do that. 271 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: But as we've said, he's a rookie quarterback. 272 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: Now are we being like twenty six percent nicer because 273 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: we're so fearful of Broncos Twitter, I mean, Bronco's blue Sky. 274 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 4: I think they're fine, that they're cool. But yeah, the 275 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: bow Knick's brigade is gonna calm down a little bit 276 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: after the last couple of weeks, just because I think 277 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: last week was his worst game since September, maybe his 278 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: worst game of the season, and tonight he was fine, 279 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: but he just they needed more. And you're absolutely right 280 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: to point out that he's throwing the ball to Lucas 281 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: Kroll and who was Watson? You're right, there were some 282 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: crazy name Nate Atkins, like, yeah, there was. He's not 283 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: playing with a full deck either, So it. 284 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 5: Was like a lot of sure, another Broncos running back. 285 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: They have like five hundred running backs, are sorry Blake Watson? 286 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the guy I was thinking, Blake Watson, 287 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: who was doing a little bit of full back, a 288 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: little bit of running back, and tonight was a reminder 289 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: to me that their offense, while efficient, is not good. 290 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: Enough to. 291 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: Totally expose a beliee Like what is a really banged 292 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: up in Beliaguered Chargers defense, I think is vulnerable and 293 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: you saw that in the first half. They were pretty 294 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: dominant in the first half. I'm I'm pretty shocked that 295 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: they only ended up with twenty seven points in this 296 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: game the way that it started. 297 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if like if they'd, like say, 298 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: they had to run the ball more, and maybe if 299 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: Nick had hit on a couple of throws, I don't 300 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 5: know if the result would have been that different because 301 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 5: justin Herbert just kind of went into terminator mode. 302 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: In the second half, but. 303 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 5: I didn't come out of this just go to your 304 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 5: mo next question, whether I didn't come out of this 305 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: with like a reduced opinion of him. I just kind 306 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 5: of felt like Water is fighting his level a little 307 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: bit in terms of him being a rookie and being 308 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: one who has you know, executed this offense competently. But 309 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: if you're gonna let me put it this way, as 310 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: we sort of turn our eyes towards the playoffs, I 311 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 5: don't have an expectation that he is going to have 312 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: some kind of a linear progression to ascent to new heights. 313 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 5: I think that would have to come probably the following season. 314 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: Right, And. 315 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: This performance was a very typical bonnickx perfo Orman's The 316 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: biggest difference between this year's Broncos and last year's Broncos 317 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: Who was it that sent that tweet out? In terms 318 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: of their offensive stats were so similar as last year? 319 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: Who was that? Do you remember? 320 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 8: Oh? 321 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw the post you're talking about Ian Harte? 322 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Ian Hartee. 323 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: I always wanted to give him credit. The offensive numbers 324 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: were so similar. The difference is the defense has been 325 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: fantastic this year, and it just wasn't tonight. 326 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: They weren't consistent enough. 327 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: They they're thinner in the secondary, you know they you 328 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: have certain but without their starting combination, their thinner in 329 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: the secondary, and the Chargers were able to take advantage 330 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: of it. 331 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 9: More. 332 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: Should we talk a little about the free kick, because yeah, 333 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: this is wild stuff. It really reminded me of the 334 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: Doug Flutey drop kick, which I happened to be watching live, 335 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: so I remember it well, but not much of you know, 336 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: America was because it was a week eight seventeen game 337 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: for a Patriots team that wasn't playing for anything because 338 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: they had already clinched everything, and it was late in 339 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter at like a one pm game. This 340 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: was this was prime time and it was the first thing, 341 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: you know, in a meaningful game. It helped swing the game, 342 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: and it was the first time most of us have 343 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 4: ever seen anything like it. 344 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: What was the experience like for you? 345 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: I was shocked when they approach the possibility. I was like, 346 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 5: I can't what, Like, I can't believe this is happening. 347 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 5: Where I want to remember where I was in this 348 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 5: moment to see history being made. I was relieved that 349 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: it was Dicker, who's a really good kicker, right because 350 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: it introduced the possibility to actually make it because it 351 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: was fifty seven yards correct, So it's not a very 352 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 5: difficult kick. 353 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: And you don't practice that as a kicker, so it 354 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: didn'tn't just feel weird that there's no one in front 355 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: of you. I guess I should set up what a 356 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 4: free kick even is, because I had to go back 357 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: to school. 358 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: To it on the you know, when and when someone 359 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: punts the ball, when you call for a fair catch. 360 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: Or if there's a penalty, which was in this case 361 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 4: where they didn't allow you to have the fair catch, 362 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: you have the option to kick the ball, and you 363 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: could drop kick it as well, but you know that's 364 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: not a thing that happens anymore. You have the option 365 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: to kick the ball with no field goal blocking team 366 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: trying to stop you. They have to be ten yards away. Now, 367 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: in theory, you could do that anytime of the game 368 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 4: that you want. You could do it on first down 369 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: early in the game, but it would make no sense. 370 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: So it really only comes up in situations on the 371 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: last play of the half or right at the end 372 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 4: of the half. And the Broncos had some weird play 373 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: calling where they weren't really trying to score at the 374 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: end of the second quarter, and they certainly weren't thinking 375 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: about this scenario. And then they threw and they had 376 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 4: an incomplete and Harbass smartly took a time out to 377 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: possibly set up this punt return. I don't know if 378 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: he was thinking about the free kick, but suddenly the 379 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: Broncos are punting, and even as it's happening, I'm thinking, oh, 380 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: this is a free kick chance, but they're going to 381 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: be way back. It would be like a sixty five 382 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: seventy yard kick. It ends up being a penalty on 383 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: the Broncos. It sets Dicker up. Let's listen once again 384 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: to Matt mndy Smith. 385 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: This is wild right on top of the bolt logo. 386 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: You got to cover it right, So Dicker for three man, 387 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: this kick is up and it is good. 388 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 10: A free kick field goal camp Dicker from fifty seven yards. 389 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 10: All of his teammates rush the field to celebrate. Eight 390 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 10: seconds left on a punt and the Chargers get three 391 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 10: out of it. 392 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: Man, that was good from seventy or so. I mean, 393 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: that was worth there, dude. 394 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 5: I feel like I know he's been He's probably an 395 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 5: All Pro last year. I can't remember who was first 396 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: team in sexteen, but I feel like all his kicks 397 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: are always like split the middle too. He's like very 398 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 5: directionally accurate. He also was I didn't notice this in 399 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: the moment because I was immediately taking to social media. 400 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: He was really chill about it. I'd be losing my mind, 401 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 5: Like that's NFL history as a kicker, do you even 402 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 5: consider that possibility? Does it even something you think might 403 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: happen to you? The other thing, I so while I 404 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: was while this happened, I was on the Wikipedia page 405 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 5: for the very catch row because I just like to 406 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 5: revisit the history of it, and Curly Lambeau looks identical 407 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 5: to lad with Honki. Oh wow, yeah, pull that up. 408 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I love that. 409 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: The record for the longest free kick previously was by 410 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: Paul Horning, which you know, not many people may know 411 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: Paul Horning's name, but he was probably the biggest star 412 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: in the history of the NFL at the time that 413 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: he played. He won the Heisman and was the best 414 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: player in the league. Vincelbardi famously said he's the best 415 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 4: player ever. He would have been the equivalent of if 416 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: Tim Tebow actually was the best player in the NFL. 417 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 4: That was Paul Hornig. I mean, what a guy that 418 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: he kicked a fifty two yard field go back then, 419 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 4: I mean, adjusting for inflation, that's like seventy five. That's outrageous. 420 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: And he was leading the league in touchdowns at the 421 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: time too. But for for it to happen, it really 422 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: touched like a football dork bone for a lot of us. 423 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: And you could hear it with DJ Daniel Jeremiah was 424 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: just laughing with absolute glee. 425 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: That's how I felt too. 426 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: Yeah I didn't. I didn't know it was a kicker. 427 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: I didn't. 428 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was what made him crazy, Like he 429 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: would lead the league in points every year because he 430 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: was a badass kicker and would score all their touchdowns 431 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: even if he had like a vaguely disappointing career, even 432 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: though he was a Hall of Famer. It was like 433 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 4: one of those where like people thought he'd be the 434 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: gress anyway. So I will absolutely shut up. Now, what 435 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 4: do you think about the Chargers moving forward? They finished 436 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: with a couple easy games on paper. They're in Foxborough, 437 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: not a total gimme, but you know they should win that, 438 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: and then they're in Las Vegas for the last game. 439 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: They only need to win one of those two games 440 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: to make the playoffs, and because of the tiebreaker, now 441 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: they're in a good position to possibly be ahead of 442 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: Denver for the sixth seed, which we have to see 443 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: how it all plays out. But that might mean you 444 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: avoid Buffalo. That would be you know nice, I think 445 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: you would want to play for that. Do you think 446 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: they have like enough because you talked about not knowing 447 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: some of the pass catchers, what about this secondary? Like, 448 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: what about this defense? It's pretty wild who they're putting 449 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: out there right now. 450 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: I really don't like them against teams that can run 451 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: the football like Buffalo at Baltimore can. But when you 452 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 5: throw those out, you're looking at a lot of teams. 453 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: I mean, the Kansasy is an efficient running game, if 454 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 5: you know at that point. But Denver JA saw Pittsburgh, Houston. 455 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 5: I think he shot in all three of those games. 456 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 5: I mean that, you know, just structurally, think like, again, 457 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: you're this game reminded you like, if you have one 458 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 5: of those dudes, you can win any game. That sounds 459 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: like such a simplistic reduction of what we just saw 460 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 5: so much happen, But it's true. 461 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: So it's true. It is true. 462 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: Happened, and a good coaching staff because he has been 463 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 4: that dude before and he's not always been healthy. 464 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: But I think that's held him back. 465 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 4: And even though the Chargers defense is on a downward 466 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: slope and we had a disagreement before the season, we 467 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: put it on the line of whether they would finish 468 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: top twenty in DVOA, they will fall further. They are 469 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: about ninth going into this game. They'll they'll fall down 470 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: to like eleventh or whatever. But they're fine, but they're 471 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: they're getting worse. There was a point in this game 472 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: where they had a dime package out there with First 473 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: of all, Tony Tony Jefferson is is like a stone 474 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: cold starter at this point. 475 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 9: Now. 476 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 4: He was out of football last year. He was in 477 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: the Ravens scouting department. Marcus May just joined the team 478 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, and then they lost him. 479 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: During this game, I'm here thinking, man, they really miss 480 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: Elijah Molden, who was good for them. But it's like 481 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: when you're really missing him, they miss Alohi Gilman, and 482 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 4: they were playing a guy named Kendall Williamson at safety. 483 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: They're just playing players that have barely played at the 484 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 4: NFL level. 485 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: Who was the other one? Leonard DeAndre Leonard? 486 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 5: Who Yane Leonard? He was he really struggled last year. 487 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: Four. 488 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 5: Well, he's been and he's bounced around the league for 489 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 5: a while. 490 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: But right so it's it's kind of a ragtag group. 491 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: And then I'm being a little bit of a homer 492 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: here in terms of like getting more frustrated with the 493 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: Chargers than I maybe would another team. 494 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: But Joey Bosa. 495 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: Has not been healthy apparently all year and has not 496 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: helped them, although in this game he did make a 497 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: few plays. 498 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: Give him credit for that. 499 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 4: But Bosa and Mack have not been great towards the 500 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: end of the year. They've been running right at Khalil 501 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: Mack last couple of weeks. 502 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a rag tag unit for sure. I didn't 503 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 5: know Marcus May was on the Chargers. That's why I 504 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 5: was like, Marcus May when you mentioned that he ran 505 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 5: in He says he was cleaned off waivers on November 506 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 5: twenty seventh. 507 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: I think he got a game ball in his first 508 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: game as a as a Charger because he got you 509 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: gotta pick in that game. 510 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: It's great, super quick twenty second Marcus May story. I 511 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 5: said next to him on a plane once I was 512 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: across country flight, talked a lot of ball. He was 513 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: really awesome, and he was back on the jets at 514 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 5: the time because he was like a third round pick, right, heerarquically. 515 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: He was usually hi and oh thirty ninth overall, okay, 516 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 5: sickon round and Well, while we're on the plane, an 517 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 5: elderly woman who went to Florida was singing in front 518 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: of us and passed him a note. We just saw 519 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 5: like a hand come through the seat and had a 520 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: piece of paper and when he opened it, he looked 521 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 5: so profoundly uncomfortable. 522 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: And he looked at me. 523 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: He was like, I don't know what to do with this. Anyways, 524 00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: I think about that every time. 525 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: Well, I want to know, but did you ask what 526 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: was in the note? 527 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: I think it was solicitous. 528 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: That is awesome. I mean, that is a wild story. 529 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: I'm so glad Marcus May came up on this podcast 530 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 4: just so you could tell that story. 531 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: Did you know that? Did he know who you were? 532 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 5: I came up in our conversation because I think I 533 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 5: was going to actually ESPN, and he was like, oh, 534 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 5: you were at ESPN, And we started talking about a 535 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 5: couple of stuff. 536 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: He was great, that's awesome. 537 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 4: The Broncos, by the way, just like stepping back a minute, 538 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 4: have a much more realistic scenario that the percentages would 539 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: say they're pretty safe to make the playoffs. And yet 540 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: when it comes to this stuff, I think how I 541 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: would think as a fan, and I would suddenly be worried. 542 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the next gen stats. They're back to 543 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: the seven seed. They're at eighty five percent. That sounds great, 544 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: but if they lose out, If they lose out, they 545 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: have They have the Bengals next week, and I am 546 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: definitely trusting the Brons over the Bengals. But it's in Cincinnati. 547 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: It's Joe Burrow in a big spot. Like, the Bengals 548 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: are watching this game and they're loving this. If they 549 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 4: can beat the Browns this week and then they beat 550 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: the Broncos, if nothing else, they get to Week eighteen 551 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: playing meaningful football, which I think as a Bengals fan, 552 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 4: that's a win. The Broncos are playing the Chiefs in 553 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: Week eighteen. The Chiefs could very well be playing for 554 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: the number one seed. They could not either, depending on 555 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: what happens in between against the Texans and the Ravens, 556 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: and then you could see Denver fall the way out. 557 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: And perhaps the most annoying scenario for the Bengals would 558 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: be they actually do win out, and it's not going 559 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 4: to be easy for them. They play Pittsburgh final week, 560 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 4: It's going to be pretty tough for the Bengals to 561 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 4: get through. But they could win out and actually it'd 562 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: be the Colts who sneak in at nine to eight. 563 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: I've done all the scenarios. If the Colts tie there, 564 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: the Colts would actually be the one who get in 565 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: over the Broncos. And the Colts have the easiest schedule 566 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: possible over the last three weeks. So I do think 567 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: this result kind of opened it up just a little bit, 568 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: and the Dolphins are also happy. 569 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 5: Just I guess the tricky thing with the Bills and 570 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: the Chiefs is if the Chiefs win sixteen seventeen, they 571 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 5: have nothing to play for in week eighteen, so then Bronco. Yeah, 572 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 5: so that would be tough for the Bengals. 573 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: There's a lot though, as you know, I'm not trying 574 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: to just be a company man, but usually this time 575 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: of year it's not just about me loving Justin Herbert. 576 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: I do want the games like I wanted the Colts 577 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: to win last week too, because whatever can give us 578 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: the most meaningful games so that the games aren't dead 579 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: down the stretch, all right, I meana before we let 580 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: you go, Look, it's been a long day. When I 581 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: was driving in at Sofi Stadium earlier today, the Broncos 582 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: buses were right in front of me with the police escort. 583 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: And we actually have some sound from some other gentlemen 584 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: still in so Fi Stadium's listen, all right. 585 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 11: I'm here with the voice of the Chargers, Matt body Smith, 586 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 11: Greg Mina. Hope you guys are well money. 587 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 9: Big takeaway from the game. 588 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 6: Big takeaway is the first time they faced adversity and 589 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 6: we wanted to see him answer the bell. A lot 590 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 6: of people saying they couldn't win a big game. They 591 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 6: had only been teams with losing wrecords. They come out 592 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 6: in the second half, shut out the Broncos offense, and 593 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 6: justin Herbert goes to town. 594 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 9: Yeah. 595 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 11: I thought, Herbert, you know, just kind of took the 596 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 11: game over. I wrote it down. The run he had 597 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 11: in the third quarter, it could have slid, stays up, 598 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 11: gets the first down. Then you have him extending plays 599 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 11: to Darius Davis for a touchdown, extending plays on the 600 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 11: little flip to Hassan Haskins and then the run he 601 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 11: had on third down with third and eleven or something like. 602 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: That, and he takes off and gets first down as well. 603 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 6: Ten different receivers. Darius Davis first career touchdown, Hassan Haskins 604 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 6: first career rushing receiving touchdown, Hayden Hurst hadn't played since 605 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 6: November tenth, and he gets a huge third down touch. 606 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: He just spread it around. He did what Justin Herbert does, 607 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 6: you know, he just he finds the open man and 608 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 6: it worked. 609 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, sometimes you have to have someone carry the load. 610 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: Mina, you know what I'm talking about. Uh, it's it's 611 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: just what you gotta do. 612 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 11: You got to step up and you got to cover 613 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 11: up some of the sins of the others that may 614 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 11: be sitting next to you. 615 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: And that's you me. 616 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 11: No, no, no, that's just Mena with Gray. 617 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 9: No. 618 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 6: No, we're no, I took, I took. 619 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 11: We're on a different thing. 620 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 12: This is more of an equal level. 621 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 6: Partner, Okay, perfect, not what's going on with so I 622 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 6: look a little taller. 623 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 9: There we go. 624 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 12: That's better, all right, all. 625 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 11: Right, let's lean up the booth. We don't want Maurice 626 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 11: to get mad at it. 627 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, exactly. 628 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, Hey see you guys. 629 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: Thank you to Daniel, Jeremiah and Matt money Smith. 630 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 4: Yes, you gotta, you gotta check out the show on 631 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: YouTube so you can just see how young all that 632 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: surfing at five am every morning is keeping Matt money Smith. 633 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: I don't know how he doesn't. 634 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: I don't know why they wasted so much time, you know, 635 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: until the point where Jeremiah took a shot at me, 636 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: it just all felt like, you know, four player or 637 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: something like that. 638 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 5: Oh man, I feel like, yeah, we they kind of 639 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 5: sae takeaways as us, which makes me feel good. 640 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 4: Yes, Mina, you've been very kind to join us tonight. 641 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: It is Mina Kime season. I know you don't want 642 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: me to talk too nice about you, but you were 643 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 4: on the Simpsons outcast, which changed the game in my house. 644 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: Walker's watching Simpsons all the time now that the allcast 645 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: actually got him more onto the Simpsons. 646 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: He loved it. 647 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: And obviously you got the Mina Time show featuring Lenny. 648 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 4: It's almost annoying. You're getting better and better as a 649 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: podcaster or not that you weren't always great, but I'm 650 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 4: always thinking like, damn, she's always improving. And then NFL 651 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 4: Live and then you're going to be on Netflix, which 652 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: is really cool on Christmas, Like, how excited are you 653 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: about that? And you're coming on this show and like 654 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: a million other Friends shows this week. You can say, no, Mina, 655 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: but you are that kind of friend. I appreciate that I. 656 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 5: Sell Chargers Broncos on the schedule, and I thought that's 657 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 5: the game for me. Interesting brought me on before the 658 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 5: Seahawks game, by the way, which might be it might 659 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 5: be kind of over by then, but uh yeah, no, 660 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 5: I'm excited for Christmas, the Christmas games, especially now that 661 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: you know Mahomes is healthy. It's really fascinating because they're 662 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 5: they're flipping right there. They're playing on Saturday and they're 663 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 5: just flipping opponents, which I love as an analyst, just 664 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 5: because it makes my life a lot easier. Last the 665 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: two games and you get, you know, a few days 666 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 5: to think about it, but I'm really pumped. I mean, 667 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 5: that's it is like a legitimately great slate of games 668 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 5: with Raven Sextans and Chief Dealers. So I'm looking forward 669 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 5: to it. 670 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: And it's cool. I think it's a cool opportunity because. 671 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: I came up thinking in this business, like what it 672 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: would be great to have some non players up there 673 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: just as analysts. We basically only see non players as 674 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: reporters or as play by play guys or whatever. And 675 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: I think it's awesome that in a spot like a 676 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 4: freaking Christmas Day game, which those will be, you know, 677 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: among the most watched games of the year, that ner 678 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: that you're don't be nervous. It's not about that like 679 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: you've already done it, you've already done all the work, 680 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: but that you're you're out here repin. You're out here 681 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: reppin for the analysts, and you're you're gonna be awesome 682 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 4: because you do such a good job. 683 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it. I hope people enjoy NBS much. 684 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. 685 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: Mina chimes before we're quite done with the recap, and yeah, 686 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: I should have mentioned this. This show is going to 687 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: be a little different. I'm really excited. We have an 688 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 4: interview with Rams running back Kyron Williams after the break. 689 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 4: We taped it a little earlier in the week with 690 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 4: Jordan Rodrieg of the Athletic It's a really great interview, 691 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: so so stay for that. But before the game, we 692 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: pulled some fans. We were outside Sofi Stadium to find 693 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: out who would have a big game tonight. In this 694 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 4: edition of Who Will Deliver presented by Uber Eats, where 695 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: you can get the best deals on game day food 696 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: all season long. 697 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: Let's see if the fans were right. 698 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: River's gonna have a good connection with Ladd McConkey tonight. 699 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 12: I think the scores twenty seven twenty Chargers come out 700 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 12: on top of all the. 701 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 7: Khlil Mack two sacks today and I got Lad mcconkee. 702 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: For one TD in the third quarter. 703 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 7: Broncos are gonna be on the thirty five and hit 704 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 7: a d ball to Marvin Mims sixty five yard touchdown. 705 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 12: Lad McConkie tim reception is for one P thirty two. 706 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: Bone Nicks going for three passing touchdown. Man, I think 707 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: that bone Knicks is coming in hot, dude. He has 708 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 3: what it takes, has the poise today against Denver, Herbert's 709 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: gonna shine like amazing. 710 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 11: He's coming back for the finish and we're gonna be 711 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 11: cheering him on the whole freaking game. 712 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: So everybody what do you think chargers? 713 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: All right, that was Who Will Deliver, presented by Uber Eats, 714 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. 715 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 8: Order. 716 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 4: Now will be back on the other side with Kyron Williams. 717 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: All right, I'm so excited to be welcoming in pro 718 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 4: bowler kyn Williams, the running back of the Los Angeles Rams, 719 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: also the Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee of 720 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Rams. But it's not just Kyron Williams. 721 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: A little peek behind the curtain. If you're listening to 722 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: the podcast version of this, I got Kyron and Jordan 723 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 4: rod Rieg of The Athletic with me. Of course, my 724 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: co hosts' NFL Daily, and we were going to do 725 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: it in three different windows, but the RAMS like sound. 726 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 3: You know, the room that Kyroen was in wasn't that great. 727 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: So now Kyroen's on Jordan's computer and we're just doing 728 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 4: this all together because we're a non traditional podcast. You know, Kyroen, 729 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 4: you came late in the draft. You know, you're a 730 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 4: non traditional superstar running back. So hopefully it feels comfortable 731 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: to you. Welcome to NFL Daily. Appreciate you coming. 732 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 12: On appreciate you guys for having me. 733 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm used to uncomfortable, uncomfortable situations, so this is 734 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 13: all normal. 735 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 4: I want to go more on that, like this is 736 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: John McVay a coach that puts you guys in uncomfortable situations? 737 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 4: Or are you talking more about Sundays and the games 738 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 4: you're playing? 739 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 12: Well, just I think there's the way that I kind 740 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 12: of approach life. 741 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 13: You know, you know you expect comfort, but you know, 742 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 13: in thosecomfortable positions is where you really learn who you are, 743 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 13: what you're about, and like the things that you're made of, 744 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 13: and so you know, little things like you know, God's 745 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 13: gonna throw you curveballs every single day and you just 746 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 13: got to expect to hit them and you know, roll 747 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 13: with the punches. So me, it's whatever. I'm always ready 748 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 13: for whatever. 749 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 9: It is. 750 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 8: One of the things that I think watching you kind 751 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 8: of grow into your career over the last couple of years, 752 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 8: is you seek those situations out like you go looking 753 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 8: for them to the point where sometimes your coaches have 754 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 8: to pull you back or pull you away, almost protecting 755 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 8: you from yourself because you put so much into everything. 756 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 5: How have how has that balance gone for you this year? 757 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 8: Because you want you want everything all the time. 758 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's kind of like I 759 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 12: take it as a complement. 760 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 13: But also that I you know, as I'm further go 761 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 13: on my career, I realized that I got to be 762 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 13: more careful and be more you know, aware of what 763 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 13: you know I do to my body and. 764 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 12: Just what I do physically. 765 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 13: But for me, like you said, I've always grown up 766 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 13: to just you know, accept those uncomfortable, uncomfortable situations, you know, 767 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 13: whether that's in life, football or you know, even school 768 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 13: when I was in school, And so. 769 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 12: For me, it's it's all normal. But you know, you 770 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 12: being able to learn, You're able to learn from those things. 771 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 12: And I learned this year. You know, I learned that 772 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 12: you know, I don't have to go hard all the time. 773 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 12: You know, I can slow down, take a step back, 774 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 12: take care of. 775 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 13: My body, listen to my body, and it just that 776 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 13: just allows me to be able to be set up 777 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 13: and you know, where at the position position I'm at 778 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 13: today where you know, I feel like I'm I'm only 779 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 13: getting a stronger as a season going. 780 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 12: You know, it's week sixteen and I just peaked in 781 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 12: the weight room today. So it's like stuff. 782 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 13: Stuff like that, you know, allows me to be able, 783 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 13: Like you don't got to go hard all the time, 784 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 13: just be smart and you know, do what you gotta 785 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 13: do when the time is you know necessary. 786 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: Well, you peaked in the weight room today. What are 787 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 3: we talking about here? 788 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 12: You know in the force force play jumps? 789 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 13: You know do we do those every every Wednesday when 790 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 13: we work out, and so today we just you know, 791 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 13: you had your hands on your hips and it was 792 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 13: a vertical jump. 793 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 8: You know. 794 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 13: You know there's a trend that's among going like this, 795 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 13: and so I beat last week's jumping, you know, So 796 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 13: I just credit so you know, the work that I'm 797 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 13: putting in, the smart work that I'm putting in after practice, 798 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 13: and you know, the things in the weight room that 799 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 13: I'm doing. 800 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 3: I'm jealous. 801 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 4: We get to holiday season and I'm like, my body's 802 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 4: falling apart at this time of year. 803 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I used to watch all these coaches. 804 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 4: They come into training camp and they're always in great shape, 805 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 4: and then by December that was like the old NFL. 806 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 3: Now now all your coaches are are in great shape. 807 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: I gotta admit, Like Sean and everything, I wanted to 808 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 4: ask you a question so I was thinking, what's a 809 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: signature Kyron Williams run I have? I kind of had 810 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: my own answer. I gave it as a like kind 811 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: of a thought experiment to myself. But I'd rather hear 812 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: you answer it first and then I'll give you my take, like, 813 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 4: what's the signature Kyroene run Man? 814 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 13: Honestly, I wanted to say I like it all, honestly, 815 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 13: But you know, this past three two years, three years 816 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 13: i've been here with the Rams. We've been really honing 817 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 13: it on the twelve duo and whatever that is, you know, 818 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 13: actually thirteen to twelve whatever, but you know, having those 819 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 13: double team blocks and be able to press the line 820 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 13: of scrimmage and you know, make those linebackers pick where 821 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 13: they want to go, and being able to jump cut 822 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 13: from a gap or from c to sea, from sea 823 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 13: gap to sea gap, you know, either way. And so 824 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 13: for me, that's kind of what we've been you know, 825 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 13: what we've been known as here at the RAMS. But 826 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 13: you know, I really feel like any run as a 827 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 13: Karen Williams ran, I just got to get the opportunities. 828 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, especially if it comes with your favorite the doom 829 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 8: block or the blast block in front of it, and 830 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 8: that's something that the RAMS and particularly behind you Kiren, 831 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 8: have been working to install an overhaul over the past 832 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 8: couple of years, with you being very much the heartbeat 833 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 8: of that. 834 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 5: What's that been like for you? 835 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, you were a big deal in college, 836 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 8: but to have after the starts your career, I know 837 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 8: you hit some adversity, but then coming in the last 838 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 8: two years and this is built around you, It's built 839 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 8: for what you do. Well, what has that been like 840 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 8: for you? 841 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 11: Man? 842 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 12: It's a blessing, you know, because I've always wanted to 843 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 12: be in this position. 844 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 13: I've always wanted to be right where I'm at playing 845 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 13: professional football at the highest level and being being successful 846 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 13: at that. And like you said, I you know, I 847 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 13: ran into a diversity, but like that's what that was 848 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,479 Speaker 13: my test, that was my calling, that was my really 849 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 13: like are you ready for the NFL? 850 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 12: Do you want to be? 851 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 13: And so when I went through that stuff like that's 852 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 13: just like the we talked about earlier, the uncomfortable positions 853 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 13: or situations that you know, I was able to be 854 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 13: in at the early stage of my career that allows 855 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 13: me to be able to set up to where I'm 856 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 13: at now. But just being able to have all, like 857 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 13: like you said, offense kind of you know, run game 858 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 13: built around who I am and what I do best. 859 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 13: It's a blessing because you know, I love this game. 860 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 13: I love being able to play football, and like you said, 861 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 13: I want everything. So whenever i'm when coach McVay is 862 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 13: thinking about me in the run game, that's just all. 863 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 13: That's all I've ever wanted, you know, while playing football. 864 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gave me a very x's and o's answer, 865 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 4: which I appreciate. It's pretty close to what what I 866 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 4: thought about too, although Jordan picked up on more of 867 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 4: it than I could. 868 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: Because that's why I have her onside. I can't. I 869 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 3: can't do an interview by myself. 870 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 12: Oh that's you're a good teacher. 871 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 8: You know. 872 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 4: I just can't do it by myself. I gotta have 873 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 4: her sit. And you guys are cracking me up watching this. 874 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 4: People should check this out. 875 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 8: I told Kyen, he's too young for this. But this 876 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 8: is like a Collinsworth slide situation, like I should split 877 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 8: into the frame like this. 878 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: It's true, and so what I was thinking, like signature runs, 879 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 4: because like Derrick Henry a signature one of his runs, 880 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 4: you know, it's going to have a stiff arm minute. 881 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 4: My favorite running back of all time, Frank Or If 882 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm thinking of what a signature run would be, it'd 883 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 4: be him being so patient behind the hole that you 884 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: can't even believe, and then he hits something so hard 885 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: before it even opens, and you're like, how did you 886 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 4: know that was going to open? 887 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: When? When it opens? And and for you it would 888 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: be a little bit of that. It'd be what you 889 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 3: said it would. 890 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: It be a run that would have great vision, that 891 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: would have great footwork, where just the lateral agility, and that, 892 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: to me is what separates you and and a lot 893 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: of great running backs over there, the lateral agility to 894 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 4: hit that hole and know when to hit it. But 895 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 4: the one thing you didn't say is that, to me, 896 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 4: a signature Kyen run would be get low at the 897 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: end of it and you'd run someone over because I 898 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 4: think the physicality that that you bring at your size 899 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 4: and everything that like, I didn't know about that until 900 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 4: I saw it in your second year. Are you still 901 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: surprising defenders with that? And do you think I picked 902 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 4: a good signature around? 903 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, but you know I like to be physical. 904 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 13: I just like that nature of you know, people that 905 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 13: expecting me to come and really hit you or come 906 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 13: and really trying to run you over. And so like 907 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 13: being able to have that in the bag, it creates 908 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 13: a lot of opportunities for me to be able to 909 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 13: also find that safety make them, you know, line them 910 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 13: up and beat them one on one. 911 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 12: So that's kind of like when I. 912 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 13: Say when you say signature, yes, you know, being patient 913 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 13: hitting that hoole one and when he's not even there. 914 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 13: But I also want to get into being able to 915 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 13: make that safety mission, you know, create those big because 916 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 13: and then I'm still working for those and I'm still 917 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 13: gonna I'm gonna get those they coming soon, I promise 918 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 13: you that, because uh, that's just what I see. 919 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 12: But like being able to have that ability to when 920 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 12: people know that you. 921 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 13: Weren't scared to lowerer Lowerer had and to run them over, 922 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 13: because that was the talk of me coming to the NFL. 923 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 12: He's not big enough or he's too small, Like, who's 924 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 12: too small? I'll run you over. I'll be putting DMS 925 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 12: on there. 926 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 13: But it's all doesn't matter. That's that's out of the 927 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 13: story now. And so you know, being able to you know, 928 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 13: set that early on in my NFL career. That was 929 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 13: huge for me, and like you said, seeing that in 930 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 13: the second year, many people didn't know that. 931 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 8: And I think one last thing on the signature run 932 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 8: we have to finish it with a flourish right, whether 933 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 8: you get hit or not. And whenever you do get 934 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 8: hit before you're ready to go down, right, he gets 935 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 8: up and you will like stomp your feet and you 936 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 8: will you have that emotion and you can see you're 937 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 8: often facing you know, the end zone, and you can't 938 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 8: see your linemen running behind you. The lineman they feel 939 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 8: that and they come running up to you and they 940 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 8: reset the line and you're ready to go again. 941 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 5: How do you transfer that energy? That's part of your 942 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 5: signature too. 943 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 8: Is that energy that you transfer. 944 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 13: Among that I think that's part of the biggest thing. Honestly, 945 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 13: what I bring to this game is I'm able to 946 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 13: put I'm able to bring the people around me with me. 947 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 13: And that's just by my play play style and who 948 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 13: I am as a person. Tell you I love his game. 949 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 12: I love this game. 950 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 13: I have so much joy going out there and being 951 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 13: able to play this game, and you know, be around 952 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 13: these with these professional athletes who you know, I once 953 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 13: slipped up to and now I'm with them and you know, 954 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 13: practicing with them and going to war with them, Like 955 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 13: that's to me, that's just what it's all about. And 956 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 13: so when I'm out there having fun, everybody can feel 957 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 13: it's affectionists and it's not anything that I try to do. 958 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 12: That's who's who I am. 959 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 13: Like, I remember when I was younger, That's how my 960 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 13: dad was like when he was coaching us, and literally 961 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 13: he was always the hype man. 962 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 12: He was always screaming. He's always you know, getting us 963 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 12: rowdy to go, and I just feel like that's how 964 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 12: the game of football's played. And the other thing too. 965 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 12: In high school. 966 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 13: I remember my freshman year I got I was a 967 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 13: freshman playing varsity and I got hit super hard on 968 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 13: the sideline. 969 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 12: I caught the ball, got smack, and everybody was like, woa, wow, 970 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 12: he's got hit. 971 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 13: But my one thing, my coach said is you know, 972 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 13: you bounced up so fast that it made the defender 973 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 13: feel like he didn't even do anything. And so you'll 974 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 13: see me now like I'll be the first one ab 975 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 13: off the ground like I'm not staying on the ground 976 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 13: because you didn't do anything to me. You didn't affect 977 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 13: me that that hit. I didn't feel that and so 978 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 13: that's another mental cycle thing that you know, I tried 979 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 13: to bring to the game that allows you know, me 980 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 13: to have the edge over the fenders and allows me 981 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 13: to have that energy, you know, for my team. 982 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 4: So we're talking to you before you head to the 983 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 4: East Coast Jets this week, big game, first time all season. 984 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 4: You guys are now tied for first place, and I'll 985 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 4: be I'll be real with you. You know, we're we're 986 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 4: unbiased here at NFL Daily. But I've been living in 987 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 4: La now a little bis. I've been here for eleven 988 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 4: years now, and I didn't know what my daughter was 989 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 4: gonna decide to do as a football fan, or even 990 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: if she would become a football fan. But she went 991 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 4: out to the coliseum when the Rams were playing the 992 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 4: Cowboys in the playoffs. You know what was that six 993 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 4: years ago now with Jared Goffet, you know, in his 994 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 4: second year, and. 995 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 3: She became a Ram fan. 996 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 4: So she's you know, early on this season, she's a 997 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 4: huge Kyraen Williams tin Early on this season, you guys 998 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 4: are struggling there at one and four, and I'm like, 999 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Ellis, you know, I know it's disappointed. She 1000 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 4: spends her whole Sunday building around I'm just like, this 1001 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 4: might not be the year and just like, oh no. 1002 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 3: They'll be there at the end. Like that's what they do. 1003 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: They improve as it goes. 1004 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, but you know, Stafford's getting 1005 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 4: a little older and there's a lot of injuries and 1006 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 4: all that. 1007 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 3: She's like, oh no, they'll be there at the end. 1008 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: That's what they do. And it is what you guys do. 1009 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 4: Like what is it about this Rams team, including when 1010 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 4: you've been there, especially these last two years that it's 1011 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 4: it does seem like you guys are peaking at this 1012 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 4: time of the year and just kind of what are 1013 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 4: you looking forward to the rest of the season. 1014 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't tell you a pinpoint example 1015 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 13: or a situation that you know happened to us. I 1016 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 13: honestly think coach mcvaigh he's a great coach and he's 1017 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 13: able to verbalize. I don't think many coaches are able 1018 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 13: to verbalize what we need to do, and he was 1019 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 13: able to do that. He sat us down and he 1020 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 13: told us that we needed a sense of urgency. We 1021 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 13: told us that we need to really you know, come 1022 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 13: together as a group to go compete our bus off 1023 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 13: because sitting at one and four, we knew we weren't 1024 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 13: that type of team. 1025 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 12: You know, we were better than what we were putting 1026 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 12: out there on the field and when we're not there 1027 00:46:59,640 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 12: on tape. 1028 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 13: And so did him be having that realization of him 1029 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 13: being able to be real with us and show us 1030 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 13: with the reality of the situation was. And like you said, 1031 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 13: we did have injuries, we weren't we didn't have Cooper Cup, 1032 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 13: we didn't have Coooker, we didn't have Steve, we didn't 1033 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 13: have you know, the people that we needed to you know, 1034 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 13: have to also be the. 1035 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 12: You know, the explosive offense that we always werere to be. 1036 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 13: And so, you know, just being him being able to 1037 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 13: you know, be real with us but still put that 1038 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 13: confidence in us, still be able to move us and 1039 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 13: motivate us to be in the right direction. I feel 1040 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 13: like that's what the biggest, you know, turning point for 1041 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 13: this team was because he sat us down and told 1042 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 13: us that we had thirty six days left together. And 1043 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 13: when you think about it, thirty six days is a 1044 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 13: lot and when you think about it, you know, you 1045 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 13: don't want to lose in those thirty six days. You 1046 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 13: don't want to come in December playing losing football, Like 1047 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 13: that's just no. 1048 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 12: Fun in the NFL. And so you know, having that, 1049 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 12: having him do that, and in the creator the response 1050 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 12: that he, you know, he created on his team is 1051 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 12: you know, it's hats off to him, and then you know, 1052 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 12: hats off to you know, what he's about, what he's 1053 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 12: what he's doing. But you know, I just feel like 1054 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 12: right now, like you said, we're here at the right time, 1055 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 12: and we just got to continue to stay tight, stay focused, and. 1056 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 13: Not worry about who's in front of us. You know, 1057 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 13: I always tell everybody, anybody who plays faceless and nameless, like. 1058 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 12: It don't matter who it is. 1059 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 13: Every Sunday, we know that we got a game, but 1060 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 13: it don't matter who. So this weekend it happens to 1061 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 13: be the Jets, but it doesn't change anything that we 1062 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 13: do as offense, defense, and special teams continue to keep, 1063 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 13: you know, focusing on us and what we do to 1064 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 13: make us who we are. 1065 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 8: I think the thing that's so crazy when you talk 1066 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 8: to elite competitors such as yourself and players across the league, 1067 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 8: is that switch that you flip for opponents. Right then 1068 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 8: you flip another switch when you get into the community. Yeah, 1069 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 8: and it is so personal to you. I mean, this 1070 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 8: Walter Payton Man of the Year nomination, I know is 1071 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 8: so deeply personal to you for a number of reasons. 1072 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 5: Inclusive to how you found out about it. 1073 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 8: Can you kind of remind us and take. 1074 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 13: Us through that moment, I mean the whole story, honestly. 1075 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 13: So growing up in Saint Louis, you know, I've always 1076 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 13: you know, my my parent, my dad was a football player, 1077 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 13: My uncles were football players, and so that's football was 1078 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 13: something that I love to do. And my mom she 1079 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 13: wouldn't let me play because she's always nervous about me 1080 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 13: getting hurt. 1081 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 12: So I had to wait. I had to play flag football. 1082 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 12: I had to do that first. 1083 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 13: But like I said, football is my love and my passion, 1084 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 13: and so being able, you know, to have the Saint 1085 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 13: Louis Rams in Saint Louis and have a professional team 1086 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 13: to be able to look up to, that's all I 1087 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 13: wanted to be. And so in eighth grade, I was 1088 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 13: blessed to be able to have friends who whose parents 1089 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 13: were able to take me to games, take me to 1090 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 13: the Edwards Jones domes and be able to you know, 1091 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 13: really put eyes to what it was to you know, 1092 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 13: live out that dream. And so one day my grandma, 1093 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 13: my mem and she she had tickets to like the 1094 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 13: Stephen Jackson Foundation of thirty nine Wishes, where I was 1095 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 13: able to, you know, go to the stadium, be on 1096 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 13: the field and meet every single player on the RAMS 1097 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 13: just like you just walk up to the table and 1098 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 13: they signed autographs. And so when I got to Stephen Jackson, 1099 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 13: I knew who Stephen Jackson was from just being you know, 1100 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 13: loving football so much and watching the Rams so much, 1101 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 13: and so when I got to Stephen Jackson, it was 1102 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 13: like it was just a real moment, like me putting 1103 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 13: the real eyes to somebody who I wanted to be. 1104 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 13: That's what, you know, changed my life. Honestly, I was 1105 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 13: able to picture and I remember going home and telling 1106 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 13: my mom, like, I'm gonna be an NFL player, Like 1107 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 13: this is what I want to be. And ever since 1108 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 13: that moment, you know, I fell deeply in level of football, 1109 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 13: and you know, I was still at every Rams game 1110 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 13: and I was still just just wanting to be that 1111 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 13: person that you know, I saw that one time when 1112 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 13: I was eight years old, you know, with Steven Jackson 1113 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 13: and so, and I was always at the games. So 1114 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 13: when Stephen Jackson he came to the you know, our 1115 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 13: team meeting, I was like, oh, wow, Stephen Jackson's here. 1116 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 12: What's what's he gonna tell us about? Like I had, 1117 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 12: I had no idea. And then the picture popped up. 1118 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 13: Of you know, the picture of me and him when 1119 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 13: I was him and I when I was little, and 1120 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 13: I was like, Okay, maybe he's just showing like the connection. 1121 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 12: That we had, Like you know, I met Stephen Jackson before, like. 1122 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 13: Nothing no, nothing about Walston Payton man there nothing, and 1123 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 13: then he, you know, he told me what he told me, like, 1124 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 13: you know, he told me like, oh, your buddy here, 1125 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 13: he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee. And 1126 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 13: I was shocked because I thought what I was doing 1127 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 13: was something I was supposed to do, like that's what 1128 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 13: put me in his position to be to be able 1129 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 13: to be a blessing to a blessing, you know. And 1130 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 13: so I know how it feels to be impacted. I 1131 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 13: know how it feels to be inspired. I know how 1132 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 13: it feels to really put eyes to the person that 1133 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 13: you want to be. And so that's that's just my 1134 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 13: main focus, like my main focus to inspire the youth 1135 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 13: because what Steven Jackson did for me little did he know, 1136 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 13: allowed me to be where I'm at, allowed me to 1137 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 13: be able to him again in the position that I 1138 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 13: am as an NFL running back, and you know, he 1139 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 13: gave that kid a dream that was no reality. He 1140 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 13: told me to dream big, and I dreamed the biggest, 1141 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 13: and you know, so just being able to have that 1142 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 13: and being able to know who I am and how 1143 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 13: I got to where I'm at, it's only right that I, 1144 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 13: you know, I continue to inspire the youth because you 1145 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 13: never know who who was going to take that and 1146 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 13: run with it. And so that's kind of why, like 1147 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 13: I'm always if I see a kid and they see 1148 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 13: me and they know who I am, I'm always like yes, yes, yes, yes, 1149 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 13: yes to anything. That's why I throw the ball before 1150 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 13: games because you just never know who you're going to 1151 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 13: touch on them, who you're gonna impact, because you know, 1152 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 13: Stephen Jackson didn't and I'm blessed enough to be right 1153 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 13: here because of what he did. 1154 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 4: Now, have you watched the video back, y'all? Okay, because 1155 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 4: we had it already now you talked it through. 1156 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 3: Let's put it on. 1157 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it on for our listeners just to 1158 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 4: check it out. And this was that moment where he 1159 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 4: introduces you. 1160 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 9: This guy right here, I had a chance to meet 1161 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 9: him in this year. At that time I met this 1162 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 9: young man. No, I did not know he would become 1163 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 9: a Ram and all his ways to being a great. 1164 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 9: So when you leave it all on the field, you 1165 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 9: help people forget and you getting them inspiration. And that's 1166 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 9: why I'm here this morning because one of our brothers 1167 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 9: here have done that. Our buddy here is a Walter 1168 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 9: Payton Rams nomin knee for this season. 1169 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 4: And it goes on from there. Very cool moment. And yeah, 1170 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 4: all the work that you do in the community, people 1171 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 4: should check it out. But you served as a captain 1172 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 4: for the United Way of the Greater LA's Walk United 1173 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 4: LA to help raise over a million dollars to fight 1174 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 4: cycles of poverty. It's a long list. It's amazing all 1175 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 4: the different things that you've been a part of. Met 1176 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 4: with members of the La Rams wheelchair football team. You're 1177 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 4: involved in the school district out here. We work at 1178 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 4: Inglewood too, at the at Sofi Stadium, and you're you're 1179 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 4: involved in the l a USD, the school district trying 1180 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 4: trying to help kids there, and in the Inglewood school 1181 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 4: system and in different local children battling life threatening medical conditions, 1182 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 4: all these different events and it goes on, and Yeah, 1183 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 4: what what it made me think reading all this stuff is, yeah, 1184 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 4: you must be saying yes to every opportunity. And the 1185 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 4: thing that stands out to me, not knowing you, Kyrien, 1186 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 4: was just I watch how this Man of the Year 1187 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 4: stuff goes, and it's always almost like a thing that 1188 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 4: they reward veterans that have been around a long time 1189 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 4: for because it's such a hard honor to get that, 1190 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 4: you have to wait. Steven Jackson talked about it too. 1191 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 4: He got in twenty twelve, and I'm thinking, yeah, that's 1192 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 4: that's at the end of his that's towards the end 1193 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 4: of his RAMS tenure. So for you to get that 1194 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 4: as such a young player in your third season, I 1195 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 4: think that that says a. 1196 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 13: Lot about you, No for sure, And like you said, 1197 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 13: I just it's a blessing to be where I'm at 1198 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 13: and I know how I got to here, so it's 1199 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 13: I'm gonna be a blessing to other people, you know, 1200 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 13: to make sure that whatever it is that they're going through, 1201 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 13: they know that it's gonna be okay, you know, because. 1202 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 12: And everybody, you know, we're all human. Everybody's going through something, 1203 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 12: and so you know, I just try to be a 1204 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 12: blessing to for a blessing for sure. 1205 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: But you're blessing to NFL Daily. We appreciate you. 1206 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 4: And you're blessing to my friend Jordan rod Rieg here, 1207 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 4: you know, sharing the screen with her, and hopefully we 1208 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 4: helped you out too. 1209 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 8: I am though, I'm just here. He's the one who's 1210 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 8: on the screen. Yeah, and thank you, Kyen, because we 1211 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 8: know we hit a sudden change at you here with 1212 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 8: the location and everything. 1213 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 12: So thank you so much for you got to stand. 1214 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 12: You never know what's going to happen. You gotta be 1215 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 12: ready for whatever. 1216 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it, And uh it's cool. 1217 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 4: Maybe do like an honor of Stephen Jackson this week 1218 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 4: and like do one of those Stephen Jackson runs just 1219 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 4: running through. 1220 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 3: That guy was a beast. You West loved him growing up. 1221 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, I got you. I wish he had a I 1222 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 12: wish he had a signature celebration that I could do. Yeah, thanks, 1223 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 12: I hear that. 1224 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 4: He was one of my favorites, one of the most physical, 1225 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 4: exciting running back. So you've been rammed for life, ram 1226 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 4: back in Saint Louis and now ram now. Appreciate you, Kyroen, 1227 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 4: Thank you Jordan. We'll catch you next time. 1228 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 12: Thank you so much. 1229 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 4: Appreciation all right, Thanks again to Kyrone Williams of the Rams. 1230 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 4: Thanks to Jordan rod Riege of The Athletic Fun Show, 1231 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 4: star studded Show. 1232 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 3: Thanks to Mina Chimes for joining and. 1233 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 4: Talking about a Chargers team that just feels a little 1234 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 4: bit different when it fit time games with good coaching. 1235 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 3: In December, Man. 1236 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 4: Only one more TNF game left. When that's true, you 1237 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 4: know football is back. We'll see you Friday with Cynthia 1238 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 4: in the pic show