WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Time Flies

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on danboard and thanks for downloading The

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<v Speaker 1>flying right. By addition, as the Bengals look to finish

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<v Speaker 1>the year with a winning record, as they end the

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<v Speaker 1>season against the Cleveland Browns. Coming up, I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Reader about his injury and his status going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look back at the season with the greatest Bengal

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<v Speaker 1>since the Bengals locker room. As another season winds down,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take a moment to thank Bengals players

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches for their cooperation throughout the year. They've joined

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<v Speaker 1>us at Cincinnati area bars and restaurants for our radio shows,

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<v Speaker 1>sat down with me for extended fun facts and podcast interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and answered questions in the locker room after games regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of the outcome. As Dave Lapham likes to say, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have assembled a locker room with a jerk factor

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<v Speaker 1>of zero. Now let's get to my first guest. When

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Reader suffered a torn right quad tendon in Game

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen against the Vikings, it was eerily similar to the

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<v Speaker 1>injury he suffered to his left leg in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ obviously made a full recovery then and vows to

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<v Speaker 1>do it again, but with the uncertainty about where he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be playing next year, I talked to him

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<v Speaker 1>about that this week. Dj, you seem to be in

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<v Speaker 1>very good spirits. Is that the case?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good? I mean as good as it's gonna get.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I generally have pretty pretty good attitude about

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<v Speaker 4>these type of things, So you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going good and moving around around the guys, so he's

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<v Speaker 3>always a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>How does this compare to the previous time he suffered

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<v Speaker 1>a similar.

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<v Speaker 4>Introg We're in the middle of COVID last time, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, you get used to the isolation.

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<v Speaker 3>And you down it's kind of a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>depressive this time. You know, the world's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more open.

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<v Speaker 4>Families around, so it's lie easier to make adjustments, get

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<v Speaker 4>things done. And I kind of like the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>I got to stay here this time. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>place I'm comfortable with coming in, working with the staffs,

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<v Speaker 4>those people, you know what I'm saying. So it's always

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<v Speaker 4>awesome to have like people that you're comfortable with now,

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<v Speaker 4>Like at first year, we're un comfortable with everybody, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I have to go back to send the

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<v Speaker 4>dude the center, third.

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<v Speaker 3>And Blazer Buckley. It's just a lot of moving around.

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<v Speaker 4>Make me feel great at the beginning, So this time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's been it's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that you came back and were as good

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<v Speaker 1>or better than ever, does that give you a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence that you are going to be the same

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<v Speaker 1>player next year.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be better. It'll be better than I was.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's a year the progression that I take mestally anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't have any doubt that I prepare

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, be that from a mental and physical standpoint,

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<v Speaker 4>just Lord will and just how fast that process goes,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. And I'm gonna push it every day

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<v Speaker 4>and do my best to get better every day and

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<v Speaker 4>taking a step to do the right things put myself

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<v Speaker 4>in advantage. But I still think I'll be a better

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<v Speaker 4>player next year.

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<v Speaker 1>For visiting with DJ Reader, I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>stock you put in PFF rankings, but you are the

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<v Speaker 1>bengals highest graded defensive player this year, even a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit ahead of Trey Hendricksonho's obviously had a great season.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like you were playing as well as

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<v Speaker 1>you've played.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I was playing some goodball, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>those games where you feel obviously feel better than others.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like I was doing a really good job,

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<v Speaker 4>and though I didn't not really the numbers I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>pass rust while I feel like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a lot of pressures and won a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>one on.

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<v Speaker 4>One reps especially, so I was pretty excited about just

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<v Speaker 4>what I had done. You know, the numbers they'll come

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<v Speaker 4>and whatever they are, and I just felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>put a good resume on it. It kind of suck

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<v Speaker 4>that we weren't just get on team on defense and

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<v Speaker 4>certain things, and I really take pride in those things.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also know that, you know, there's other people

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<v Speaker 4>out there, and those people have to grow and with

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<v Speaker 4>growth will come more team.

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<v Speaker 3>Success than those type of undy spots. So but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I can do better.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't play things better and do a whole lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff better, So there's so much room for growth

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<v Speaker 4>and improvement in my game. And from a team aspect,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that these young guys are only going to

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<v Speaker 4>get better just.

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<v Speaker 3>Another year in the system.

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<v Speaker 4>We played a lot of year one or two year

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<v Speaker 4>players out there, especially in the back end. Those fits

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<v Speaker 4>will only get better. So I was excited. I felt like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I felt like I was playing goodball and it

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<v Speaker 4>was good to you know, have the room with did

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<v Speaker 4>and just play around the way we deal with the group.

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<v Speaker 3>That I had felt over very fiery and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of moments.

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<v Speaker 1>For a layman like me, the struggles in the run

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<v Speaker 1>defense are hard to understand because most of the Front

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<v Speaker 1>seven was back. It seemed like this was a group

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<v Speaker 1>that was among the NFL's best last year and yet

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<v Speaker 1>this year, from the very beginning, it was a struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there's also other parts to fit and run

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<v Speaker 3>like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Teams who run the ball well aren't just gonna let

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<v Speaker 4>you play it with your five seven are You're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>make every player.

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<v Speaker 3>And your team tackle and every player on the team and.

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<v Speaker 4>Just see the fits. You know what I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 4>you lose what you did. This veteran play just understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of the game and just for our defense acts fits

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<v Speaker 4>so little dad, So you gotta figure it out. You're

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<v Speaker 4>thinking a little bit more. And it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's nobody's fault. It's just the growth and growing pains

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<v Speaker 4>of will come with the game. And you couldn't say

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<v Speaker 4>what you want about having it beyond specific guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We just got to better. We gotta do better up front.

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<v Speaker 4>Front seven has to do better to make it a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit cleaner for these guys in the lifeing.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, you also just gotta know that's gonna happened.

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<v Speaker 4>People are going to have two struggles when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to those type of things. And it also it all

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<v Speaker 4>works hand in hand. You can't hard to stop it

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<v Speaker 4>and just be dominant over all the time. If it's

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<v Speaker 4>not what m I felt like at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the season. You know those games probably when I got hurt,

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like we got a couple of games in

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<v Speaker 4>a row. We have really figured out those fits and

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<v Speaker 4>like understood what it takes on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>You have those right spots and then over time you

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<v Speaker 4>make enough of those players you're like, all right, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>The timing of your injury was brutal, late in a

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<v Speaker 1>contract here. I know that really bummed out your teammates

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<v Speaker 1>and your coaches. How tough was that for you emotionally?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you know, it's tough, especially at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>the emotional Then you got to kind of like process

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<v Speaker 4>it as it is what it is. You never know

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<v Speaker 4>what happened, how it shakes out, So it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really something that's in my control. Now. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>ta put some good film out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Play football, and you always want to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>finish the season healthy and be able to have all

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<v Speaker 4>those cards in your hand, but like some still pretty

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<v Speaker 4>good cards and feel really good about where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 4>my chance.

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<v Speaker 3>To recover and be better. Like I said, so.

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<v Speaker 4>You know now to be on me and them and

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<v Speaker 4>to figure it out and or you know, whatever it is, and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it sucks you miss out on some personal

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<v Speaker 3>things that you may want.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, other than that, it was just as Minnis,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you know, I come back, I know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm supposed to do out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll figure all the other part out. You'll be thirty

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<v Speaker 3>in July.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like there's any doubt in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>that you aren't going to be playing in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>next year and beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>I watching guys play at like thirty four to thirty

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<v Speaker 4>five playing goodball. Shoot, the quarterbacks seem like they're getting

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<v Speaker 4>younger though, order they get these guys out there, especially

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<v Speaker 4>like Stafford. You look at that guy. I'm crazy, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you know you got I played a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of good balls. Still feel young, Like you said, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>just just be turning thirty in July, so I still

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<v Speaker 4>got some good time ahead of me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I'm just so excited to play.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I started out some of my best

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<v Speaker 4>years to leg but you know, only Thomas heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really strange year. Everybody expected the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the top two or three teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Joe gets hurt on the second day

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp, and it just seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a scramble to try to get where you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's just the way the ball rover sometimes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think that's just it. And you come

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<v Speaker 4>in with certain expectations and you need adversity, and you

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<v Speaker 4>never know what that adversity is going to be. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just got overcoming and I'm telling you know we are

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<v Speaker 4>already overcoming. Then some things you just can't overcome exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, stuff all like, we give ourself a

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<v Speaker 4>chance play some goodball. Jake came in there and tore

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<v Speaker 4>it up. Dies when your gung guys came in there

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<v Speaker 4>a bigger thing. So you can't look at it as

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<v Speaker 4>a wash. You just look at it as you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we had the opportunity to grow. Season is still good.

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<v Speaker 3>There's only a.

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<v Speaker 4>Certain my team may pops on the body. You always

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<v Speaker 4>want to be nacking, but that's just the way it

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<v Speaker 4>could crumble.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, Man, you have been an awesome Bengal, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best free agents the franchise as has ever signed.

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<v Speaker 1>And from a selfish perspective, I hope there's another Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>contract to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Best of luck and rehabit. I appreciate the time, man,

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<v Speaker 3>me too, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro. I'm not alone and hoping that DJ will return

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bengals. Here's defensive coordinator lou Anarumo.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd love to have DJ back, you know, love everything

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<v Speaker 5>about him. He's such a big influence in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 5>He's such a big influence on our defense and has

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<v Speaker 5>done so many great things for the city, the community,

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<v Speaker 5>and our team. You know, would really like to get

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<v Speaker 5>him back if we can.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned DJ's high grades from Pro Football Focus. His

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<v Speaker 1>overall grade is eighty two point two and for sake

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<v Speaker 1>of comparison, all Pro Chris Jones of the Chiefs is

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<v Speaker 1>for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>provider of the Bengals. Sam Hubbard is wrapping up season

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<v Speaker 1>number six in Cincinnati, and he has seen it all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been on a team that started zero to eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been on a team that was less than

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes away from winning a Super Bowl. Sam says

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<v Speaker 1>that finishing this season with a winning record is a

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<v Speaker 1>significant goal on Sunday, even if it's not what they

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<v Speaker 1>were shooting for to begin the season.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, obviously we expected to be here playing for seeding,

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<v Speaker 6>playing for the playoffs, but that's not how it worked out,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's unfortunate. You know, we put in the work,

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<v Speaker 6>we fought hard for a long season, and we came

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<v Speaker 6>up short. But we still got one more game left

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<v Speaker 6>to finish with the winning season, and that's important to us,

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<v Speaker 6>it's important to the fans.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna go out there and fight hard.

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<v Speaker 1>How about trying to get an AFC North win.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we want that too. That's huge for us, especially

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<v Speaker 6>against arrival like the Browns. So you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>great opportunity to finish season on the high note. I

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<v Speaker 6>know we finished in twenty nineteen with the home win

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<v Speaker 6>against the Browns and we went two and fourteen that year.

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<v Speaker 6>But that was really good momentum going in the off season.

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<v Speaker 3>A strange year.

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<v Speaker 1>Expectations were so high and from the very beginning it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't seem like things are going to fall you away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a difference, was stranger, like you said, from

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<v Speaker 6>Joe going down early in training camp, all types of

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<v Speaker 6>stuff happening. You know, you just name all the things

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<v Speaker 6>that happen. It seems like it's just crazy. But that's

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<v Speaker 6>the life in the NFL. That's every year is going

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<v Speaker 6>to go, not how you draw it up, how you

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<v Speaker 6>expect it, and that's what we signed up for.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys always leave at the end of the year, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's free agency, whatever. Is there a feeling of this

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<v Speaker 1>might be the last time this group of guys gets

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<v Speaker 1>to play together.

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<v Speaker 6>I think everyone knows now that it's there's no playoffs,

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<v Speaker 6>this last week together, so we're gonna enjoy each other to.

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<v Speaker 3>The locker room.

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<v Speaker 6>We have the time we have because no matter what

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<v Speaker 6>things are gonna change next year, every year it's a

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<v Speaker 6>totally different team.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just how it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think guys understand that are gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>take this time to enjoy each other and work hard together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a five game stretch where Joe

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<v Speaker 1>was fully healthy beat some of the best teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Do you leave the season feeling okay when

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<v Speaker 1>he's back, this is still one of the NFL's best teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 6>Like like you said, that stretch, we were playing some really,

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<v Speaker 6>really good football in the middle of the year, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's all about playing the best football at

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<v Speaker 6>the right time of the year. This year, we played

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<v Speaker 6>it in the middle of the season when we need

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<v Speaker 6>to be playing it at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, we have all the all the confidence in

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<v Speaker 6>the world and the guys we have in this locker

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<v Speaker 6>room when we're all together, So getting him back is

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<v Speaker 6>obviously key, and he's well on his way. So I

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<v Speaker 6>know this year is not.

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<v Speaker 3>What we all drew up.

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<v Speaker 6>And for me, this offseason, I'm gonna be thinking I

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<v Speaker 6>was trying to get back to where we were the

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<v Speaker 6>last two years and finishing the job. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of guys have them mine set too.

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<v Speaker 1>To put the twenty twenty three season in perspective. I

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<v Speaker 1>caught up with the greatest Bengal of all time this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer Anthony Munos. What do you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing for against Cleveland on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, let's put it this way, interstate rivalry, pride, and

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<v Speaker 7>just to have a positive filling in your mouth when

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<v Speaker 7>you head into the offseason to get ready. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's that last game is always the one that's going

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<v Speaker 7>to give you a sour taste or say, hey, we

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<v Speaker 7>finished on a good note, let's build on it.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been positives this year, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest is that they know definitively that they have a

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<v Speaker 1>good backup quarterback. And Jake Browning, what did he show

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<v Speaker 1>you in the last month and a half.

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<v Speaker 7>He wasn't rattled, you know, And I like that with

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<v Speaker 7>the young guy when you come in and you know

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<v Speaker 7>you're filling in some big shoes and you just aren't rattled.

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<v Speaker 7>And he showed me his smarts and being able to

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<v Speaker 7>just play within the system. And that was a good

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<v Speaker 7>thing about it. You know, you talk about a backup,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's always nice to have, especially when you have

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<v Speaker 7>someone the caliber of Joe. You never know what's going

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<v Speaker 7>to happen, and you get Jake coming in and he

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<v Speaker 7>does pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was happy to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>So many things have to go right for a team

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<v Speaker 1>to win a Super Bowl, and for this season for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, the adversity started on day two of training

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<v Speaker 1>camp when Joe Burrow strained his calf. How difficult is

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<v Speaker 1>that for professional football player when you're riding that roller

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<v Speaker 1>coaster all season long.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it makes it even more difficult when it's

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<v Speaker 7>the most important player on your team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Joe Burrow is a man. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm sure when that happened, you know, I talked

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<v Speaker 7>about it earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>When that happened, it.

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<v Speaker 7>Was kind of like, oh, even though you knew it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be back, you just hate to see that

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<v Speaker 7>at the beginning of the season with such high expectations.

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<v Speaker 7>And first of all, you know, for me, in my

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<v Speaker 7>humble opinion, you know things are going to get started

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<v Speaker 7>slowly anyway, because of just the nature of the Beast

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<v Speaker 7>not playing any preseason. You have to work your way

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<v Speaker 7>into it. Now you have, you know, Joe not there,

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<v Speaker 7>that's going to add to it. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 7>was sad to see it and then all of a

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<v Speaker 7>sudden you see him coming on and things are getting better,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you see the thing with the risks. So

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's one of those things you talk about

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<v Speaker 7>the last game of the season. Let's let's wipe that out,

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<v Speaker 7>let's rehab, and let's get back healthy and get rolling

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<v Speaker 7>for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>As we take stock of this season and look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty four, what are some areas that you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to prioritize for this team to reach its

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<v Speaker 1>potential going forward.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first of all, if we can just talk about

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<v Speaker 7>back up again. You know, you talk about Jake Brown,

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<v Speaker 7>and let's talk about Chase Brown. I mean the kid,

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<v Speaker 7>and I you know, I tell people you can see

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<v Speaker 7>somewhat of a guys can do in the preseason, but

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<v Speaker 7>the way he played, I thought that was great, not

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<v Speaker 7>only for the team, but I thought it was excellent

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<v Speaker 7>for Joe Mixon.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, having someone nipping at his heels. They're doing

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well.

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<v Speaker 7>So, you know, again, you talk about Jake being a backup,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was impressed with Chase Brown. Where you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we look look for in the you know, in the offseason,

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<v Speaker 7>as far as the team. You know, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 7>again it's an area that was overhauled. I think we

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<v Speaker 7>still need to continue to work on that offensive line.

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<v Speaker 7>I think to really and for me, it's more consistency.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we have individuals that are capable of doing it,

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<v Speaker 7>but I think it's it's consistency, you know, and someone

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<v Speaker 7>that gets a little frustrated at times with kind of

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<v Speaker 7>the state of what's going on. I'm thinking, you got

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<v Speaker 7>a three hundred and forty pounds left tackle, you got

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<v Speaker 7>a big old man at left guard. There's got to

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<v Speaker 7>be a way just to get under center and just

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<v Speaker 7>come off the football at times. But I understand that

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<v Speaker 7>the pass is big now in the NFL, and I

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<v Speaker 7>understand the pass is big with our Cincinnati Bengals, But

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<v Speaker 7>you still look at teams that you know, win championships,

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<v Speaker 7>win football games. They're not in a two point stance

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<v Speaker 7>all the time, and they're they're getting after it. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>if it's putting two guys behind the quarterback and getting

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<v Speaker 7>ten guys pushing your quarterback on third and one or

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<v Speaker 7>fourth to one, you know that the Eagles that brought

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<v Speaker 7>the surface do that. But I'd have to say that's

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<v Speaker 7>probably one of the areas that I would love to

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<v Speaker 7>see more consistency and come along with is yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 7>keep throwing the football, but when it's time to run

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<v Speaker 7>the football, let's be physical and make the defense pay

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<v Speaker 7>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me follow up on that big left tackle Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Junior, because you two had a memorable zoom chat

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<v Speaker 1>prior to the season, and I know he considers it

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<v Speaker 1>an honor to play your former position. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>think of Orlando in his first year in a Bengals uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed watching them, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>If there's and I always looking, I love to give

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<v Speaker 7>all the positives, so I love watching. If there's just

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<v Speaker 7>one area where I would say, you know, again as

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<v Speaker 7>an offensive line, is just pad level a little lower

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<v Speaker 7>for big You know, he's a big man, and I

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<v Speaker 7>understand when you're six ' eight it's tougher to get

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<v Speaker 7>low compared to a guy that's sixty three six four

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<v Speaker 7>sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>But if there's.

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<v Speaker 7>Anything that I would say, is just pad level a

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<v Speaker 7>little lower. But I enjoyed watching them, you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>thought the enthusiasm he played with was contagious. I love

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<v Speaker 7>what we have up front is just again, I can't

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<v Speaker 7>say it enough. The word that stuck is stuck in

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<v Speaker 7>my mind right now is consistency. Not overhauled the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 7>but just getting a little more consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Anthony, the season ends against the Cleveland Browns. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are zero to five against the AFC North. They're

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<v Speaker 1>eight and three against everybody else. They didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy Joe Burrow for four quarters in any of those

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<v Speaker 1>AFC North games. Is it that simple or were there

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<v Speaker 1>other things about the games against Cleveland, Baltimore and Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 7>But again, I'm going to get back to the physicality

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<v Speaker 7>of football games. I really believe when we played those games,

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<v Speaker 7>it appeared that those teams are a little more physical

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<v Speaker 7>than we were. They might have not necessarily, wasn't a fact,

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<v Speaker 7>but it appeared watching that they might wanted it a

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<v Speaker 7>little more.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's apparent.

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<v Speaker 7>And this is one of the parts of the games

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<v Speaker 7>that I do not like, and being a former offensive

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<v Speaker 7>football player, it appears that happens more on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not profiling or I'm.

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<v Speaker 7>Not generalized, but there's a little shove now and then

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<v Speaker 7>after plays, and it comes more from the defense. I

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<v Speaker 7>think there was a little more of that, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think you have to put a stop to that, not

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<v Speaker 7>to get a penalty, because as we know, the second

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<v Speaker 7>guy's always caught, but you can't allow a team to

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<v Speaker 7>do that. To me, it appears that those three divisional

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<v Speaker 7>teams have a tendency to do that and we got

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<v Speaker 7>to be on the other end of that. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think maybe there was just maybe a little more quickness

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<v Speaker 7>to the ball, maybe a little more physical but that's,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, that's a fine line, and that's to me,

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<v Speaker 7>that is something that can be resurrect I mean rectified.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not something like, oh my goodness, we can't. We

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<v Speaker 7>can't compete with these guys. We can't and I know

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<v Speaker 7>we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>So beginning next week, everybody's attention is going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>to the draft and free agency. Is there something at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the wish list the dynamic tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on the offensive or defensive line. Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>position group or something along those lines that you would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see them address?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what, I think it's something that uh and

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<v Speaker 7>I know we have some pretty good tight end, but

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<v Speaker 7>I want a dominant guy that that you have to

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<v Speaker 7>be able to say, Okay, we're concerned about this stud

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<v Speaker 7>tight end. He's a factor in this game. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think when you look at teams that have that impactful

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<v Speaker 7>tight end, it gives the other guys an opportunity, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>to go one on one or to pick your poison

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<v Speaker 7>who you're going to double team. So I think if

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<v Speaker 7>there's that tight end that we can say, man, this

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<v Speaker 7>is a guy that we can bring in and you

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<v Speaker 7>know he's going to be a pretty good blocker, but

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<v Speaker 7>he occupies the big area, that middle of the football field.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's one area that maybe I would say,

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<v Speaker 7>I think i'd look there.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got your Hall of Fame sweatshirt on. Bengals fans

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<v Speaker 1>are thrilled this past offseason when Ken Riley joined you

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<v Speaker 1>in Canton. Now, Willy Anderson is a semi finalist for

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<v Speaker 1>the third year in a row. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of Big Willy's chances of becoming a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's an excellent chance, especially with the percentages

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<v Speaker 7>when you've become a finalist, and I know he's been

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<v Speaker 7>a finalist, so I'm just I'm playing for more Bengal strifes.

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<v Speaker 7>Willie Anderson, Kenny Anderson, you know, because I want to

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<v Speaker 7>buy more.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>One of the first things I did, I got my

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<v Speaker 7>Kenny Riley hat. I got my Kenny Riley shirt. I

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<v Speaker 7>want to get my seventy one jersey. I want to

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<v Speaker 7>get my fourteen Well I already have my fourteen jersey,

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<v Speaker 7>just put.

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<v Speaker 2>It back on. But I think he's got an excellent

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<v Speaker 2>chance of going in.

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<v Speaker 7>I look at the list, the career he had, and

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<v Speaker 7>again the percentages of those that have been finalists.

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<v Speaker 2>Of going in. I think he has an excellent chance.

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<v Speaker 7>So maybe we have another bust or two it up

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<v Speaker 7>to Canton and August this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>That would obviously be awesome. Last thing for Anthony Munoz.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, Joe Burrow famously said the Super Bowl window

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<v Speaker 1>is my entire career, and now he's signed with the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals through twenty twenty nine at least hopefully many years

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that. In your mind, do they go right back

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<v Speaker 1>to being one of the top Super Bowl contenders next

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<v Speaker 1>year when Joe's healthy?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, again, I've not looked closely on the free

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<v Speaker 7>agents or who they are going to might lose, but

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<v Speaker 7>what they have on the roster. I really believe they're

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<v Speaker 7>very talented and I think that they still are one

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<v Speaker 7>of the contenders. I think he comes back healthy, they

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<v Speaker 7>get rolling, things go well in the offseason. I can't

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<v Speaker 7>believe that they wouldn't be with who they have on

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<v Speaker 7>their roster. So, in my humble opinion, not only because

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a former Cincinnati Bengals football player, because I watch

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<v Speaker 7>the teams, I think they are one of the top

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<v Speaker 7>top teams in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Always great to pick your brain. Happy New Year, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Dan, always a pleasure to be with you. Happy

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<v Speaker 7>New Year, and August will come quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, it's time for this week's Know the Faux segment.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cleveland Browns opened the season with a twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to three win over the Bengals on a rainy day

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland that saw Cincinnati finish with one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty two yards of offense and a total of six

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<v Speaker 1>first downs. I said after that game that the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>defense was so good that if Cleveland got decent quarterback play,

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns would be a contender in the AFC. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was right, but little did I realize that thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight year old Joe Flacco would turn out to be

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. The Bengals won't see Flacco on Sunday. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Stefanski is resting as many starters as possible since Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>is locked in as the number five playoff seed in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC. For more on the eleven to five Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>longtime Cleveland reporter Tony Grossi joined Dave laphaman me on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Game Plan Show. Here's my question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you covered the Browns and is this

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<v Speaker 1>the most remarkable season you have witnessed in that time?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I have covered him, I think before Dave Lapham

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<v Speaker 8>was even drafted that long. Interviewed him at the combine. Yes, yes, yes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>it's been a blast because it's it's been uh you know,

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<v Speaker 8>kind of the drama has been on the field this

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<v Speaker 8>year as opposed to off the field, and and they've

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<v Speaker 8>gotten better with every piece of adversity. And now that

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<v Speaker 8>Joe Flackup's story is just unbelievable. What's going on. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>it's been it's been a blast. And finally Browns are

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<v Speaker 8>in and the Bengals are the team that is playing

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<v Speaker 8>out the strength.

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<v Speaker 9>Tony, This this is nuts to me that the Browns

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<v Speaker 9>have thirty five giveaways, dead last in the NFL. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>twenty more giveaways in the Bengals. The Bengals have fifteen giveaways,

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<v Speaker 9>tied for third fewest. The Browns have had six return

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<v Speaker 9>touchdowns against them, most in the NFL. Four pick sixes,

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<v Speaker 9>tied to most.

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<v Speaker 3>In the NFL.

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<v Speaker 9>How the hell did they have eleven wins. You'd think

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<v Speaker 9>they'd be five and eleven instead of eleven and five.

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<v Speaker 8>I know, I mean, this is one for the This

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<v Speaker 8>season is defying all analytics that keep harping about, you know, turnovers,

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<v Speaker 8>and they keep on turning it over and they keep

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<v Speaker 8>on winning. Right, and Placo in five games has thrown

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<v Speaker 8>those two pick sixes. He hasn't had an interception free

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<v Speaker 8>games yet, and yet he looks like he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>in the prime of his career. He's gunning the ball

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<v Speaker 8>down the field. I don't know how to explain any

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<v Speaker 8>of it. I mean, their defense is excellent. It's kind

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<v Speaker 8>of played out of a any slump and it's playing

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<v Speaker 8>it's humming pretty well. They're well coached, and they've gotten

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<v Speaker 8>I think they hidden reason. It's a small reason, but

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<v Speaker 8>their special teams are so much better. They don't lose

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<v Speaker 8>games on special teams. I mean, they're a complete team

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<v Speaker 8>for the first time in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kevin Stefanski has made it abundantly clear he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to rest as many key players as he can,

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<v Speaker 1>understandably going into the postseason. Here's my question, though, why

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Driscoll and not PJ. Walker.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he might have been nailed down Coach of

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<v Speaker 8>the Year by winning a game with a fifth That's

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<v Speaker 8>only been done as far as we can tell, in

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<v Speaker 8>the strike season of nineteen eighty seven. But New England

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<v Speaker 8>won with five quarterbacks, one with Doug Flutey who crossed

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<v Speaker 8>the ticket line to get a cheap win. Another one

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<v Speaker 8>was one of their strike replacement players. I think what

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<v Speaker 8>it is is it's an opportunity for them to see

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<v Speaker 8>if he's better than PJ. Walker. They're a little uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 8>with PJ. Walker as the backup. He was a turnover machine.

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<v Speaker 8>He did win two games miraculously. I think Van Pelt

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<v Speaker 8>has some exposure that Driscoll, and he's the first quarterback

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<v Speaker 8>to start for both teams in the Battle of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 8>Knew that. I'm sure that's crazy I was, I was

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<v Speaker 8>shocked by his announcement today. It was we knew, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>he's going to rest a lot of guys, but Driscoll

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<v Speaker 8>just joined them last week and they needed a third

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<v Speaker 8>quarterback because their rookie During Thompson Robinson is on injured reserve,

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<v Speaker 8>uh with with an injury. So I guess it's a

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<v Speaker 8>it's a cheap way of seeing you know what he

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<v Speaker 8>can drink is he's not going to get much practice

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<v Speaker 8>time once they go into playoff mode.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, Okay, so the injury report comes out, seventeen players

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<v Speaker 9>are on it. Eight offense, seven defense, and both your kickers,

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<v Speaker 9>your place kicker and here punter. Foreshadowing you know what's

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<v Speaker 9>going to be coming. How many people do you think

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<v Speaker 9>they're going to elevate from the practice squad? Do you

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<v Speaker 9>think that anybody will get a couple of series before

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<v Speaker 9>they're yanked or what do you think is going to happen?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, first of all, the punter will be back, Beharcas

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<v Speaker 8>he had a quad injury, missed the Jets game, but

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<v Speaker 8>they cut the practice squad punter, So I talked to Corey.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>The kicker is still not ready so they one elevation

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<v Speaker 8>will go to the to the practice squad. Kicker Riley Patterson,

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<v Speaker 8>he's going to have to kick. I think now Skofanski

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<v Speaker 8>would not specify who's playing and who's not, other than

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<v Speaker 8>we know Flacco's not playing. But I think he's going

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<v Speaker 8>to clear the decks to the most of the familiar names. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>it's not like pre season. We have ninety players and

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<v Speaker 8>you could you could start all your second at third string, right,

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<v Speaker 8>you can't do that. But I think anybody who's on

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<v Speaker 8>that list with an injury, even though they didn't practice,

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<v Speaker 8>they'll be okay for the playoffs. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>see a lot of backups in this game. But there

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<v Speaker 8>are certain position groups where you know, running back Karimont

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<v Speaker 8>might not play. But but you only got two of

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 8>the guys there. You know, of Jerome Ford they're leading rusher,

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<v Speaker 8>and Pierre Strong who's got a lot of playtime. So

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<v Speaker 8>there will be some position groups will they'll be familiar names.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Grossi is our guest. Both of these franchises, Tony

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<v Speaker 1>have quarterbacks who have among the biggest contracts in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>When does the Deshaun Watson deal make it difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns from a cap perspective.

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<v Speaker 8>Every year, because what's unique about his deal being totally guaranteed,

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<v Speaker 8>there are no shortcuts like Mahomes, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 8>Burrow has certain years where you can where you can

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<v Speaker 8>allocate resources differently. That's not the case with this one.

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<v Speaker 8>They've redid them this year, which means they push money forward.

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<v Speaker 8>So he's got a sixty eight million dollar cap hit

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<v Speaker 8>next year. I don't know if they could support that

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<v Speaker 8>whole thing. They're going to have to push that forward

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<v Speaker 8>at some point in the five year deal, and he's

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<v Speaker 8>been with them two years. They're gonna have to suck

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<v Speaker 8>it up and take his full cap charge. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 8>next year or the year after, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 8>you can't keep moving it in. They'll be paying on

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<v Speaker 8>him till, you know, to the cows come home if

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<v Speaker 8>they do that. So it's going to take effect. There's

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<v Speaker 8>a couple of players that is going to be tricky,

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<v Speaker 8>whether they can bring them back or not. As a

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<v Speaker 8>result of.

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<v Speaker 9>It, Tony Jim Schwartz has just done an unbelievable job.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, the defenses is just suffocating him. I mean

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<v Speaker 9>they are playing at such a high level.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is he Is.

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<v Speaker 9>There any buzz about him in the loop for a

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<v Speaker 9>head coaching opportunity? They say there's going to be potentially

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<v Speaker 9>you know, half a dozen, seven or eight.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the day they hired him, I said he'd have

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<v Speaker 8>the most impact of any new face in the building.

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<v Speaker 8>And he made me look good because he has. He

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<v Speaker 8>has done that. He transformed their culture on defense. I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know, you know, he's in our age group a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit there. Yees over fifty and the trend still

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<v Speaker 8>looks like it's going to be offensive coaches. Who knows

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 8>if he gets you know, if they get a long

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<v Speaker 8>ride into the playoffs, he might get a look. There

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<v Speaker 8>was a recent older defensive coach fired recently. I'm trying

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 8>to recall his name, so, I mean, it's not out

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 8>of the realm that he would, but I'm not getting

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 8>that vibe right now. But if they you know, one

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 8>or two years in the Age championship picture, and he's

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<v Speaker 8>gonna get a look, I would think.

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<v Speaker 9>And final question, and thanks for your time. As always,

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 9>you're always gracious and we appreciate that. Kevin Stefanski, is

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<v Speaker 9>he Coach of the Year, and is Jim Schwartz assistant Coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the Year.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the second question, you know, the secret to this

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 8>team is Bill Callahan. There's no doubt about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>on their third left tackled or the third right tackle,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 8>there's second left tackle. They've had to play with another center.

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<v Speaker 8>They the only one who hasn't miss the game that

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<v Speaker 8>is the right guard, Wyatt Teller, And they haven't missed

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<v Speaker 8>the beat. So I don't want to be remiss in

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<v Speaker 8>not mentioning him now coach of the Year. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 8>got to be between him and Dan Campbell. Now Dan Campbell,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean they he's listed the Titanic out of Lake Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in that.

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<v Speaker 8>Division for the first time in thirty years. I don't

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 8>want you know that's not a small accomplishment. They should

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<v Speaker 8>have an AFC and an NFC Coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'll tell you if I were voting, I would

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<v Speaker 8>vote for Stefante because I lived through this thing. He

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<v Speaker 8>won games with p J Walker, DeShawn Watson, Dori and

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<v Speaker 8>Thompson Robinson in the rookie one might have been the

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<v Speaker 8>biggest game when they played Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh, because you

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<v Speaker 8>know what those division games mean and they needed that game,

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<v Speaker 8>and they just just outlasted Pittsburgh, you know. And Thenny

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<v Speaker 8>Benn Placo is just one four in a row. I

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<v Speaker 8>tell you, if he went with Riscal, how can you

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<v Speaker 8>deny it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an excellent point about Bill Callahan though, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do think Bill needs to spend more time with his

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<v Speaker 1>son and his grandkids.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's been awesome. I mean that line has been

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<v Speaker 8>a secret to everything, you know, and even mentioned they

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<v Speaker 8>haven't had Nick Chubb since week two, so and yet

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<v Speaker 8>they reached what everyone you know, even the most optimistic prognosticators,

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<v Speaker 8>maybe since I think they could get to eleven wins,

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't, but that considering what they've gone through, it's

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<v Speaker 8>remarkable and it's made them stronger. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 8>things that you couldn't predict.

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