1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on danboard and thanks for downloading The 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. Nah gotta watch the time because it's 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: flying right. By addition, as the Bengals look to finish 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: the year with a winning record, as they end the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: season against the Cleveland Browns. Coming up, I'll talk to 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: DJ Reader about his injury and his status going forward. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I'll look back at the season with the greatest Bengal 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: of them all, Anthony Munio's And in this week's No 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: The Faux Conversation, we'll get the skinny on the Browns 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: with longtime Cleveland reporter Tony Grossi. 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It's the greatest thing 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: since the Bengals locker room. As another season winds down, 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: I want to take a moment to thank Bengals players 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: and coaches for their cooperation throughout the year. They've joined 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: us at Cincinnati area bars and restaurants for our radio shows, 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: sat down with me for extended fun facts and podcast interviews, 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: and answered questions in the locker room after games regardless 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: of the outcome. As Dave Lapham likes to say, the 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Bengals have assembled a locker room with a jerk factor 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: of zero. Now let's get to my first guest. When 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: DJ Reader suffered a torn right quad tendon in Game 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: fourteen against the Vikings, it was eerily similar to the 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: injury he suffered to his left leg in twenty twenty. 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: DJ obviously made a full recovery then and vows to 33 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: do it again, but with the uncertainty about where he's 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: going to be playing next year, I talked to him 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: about that this week. Dj, you seem to be in 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: very good spirits. Is that the case? 37 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: Pretty good? I mean as good as it's gonna get. 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 4: I think I generally have pretty pretty good attitude about 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: these type of things, So you know, it's. 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: Going good and moving around around the guys, so he's 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: always a good time. 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: How does this compare to the previous time he suffered 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: a similar. 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: Introg We're in the middle of COVID last time, so 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, you get used to the isolation. 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: And you down it's kind of a little bit more 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: depressive this time. You know, the world's a little bit 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: more open. 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Families around, so it's lie easier to make adjustments, get 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: things done. And I kind of like the fact that 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: I got to stay here this time. This is the 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 4: place I'm comfortable with coming in, working with the staffs, 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 4: those people, you know what I'm saying. So it's always 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 4: awesome to have like people that you're comfortable with now, 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: Like at first year, we're un comfortable with everybody, so 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: you know, I have to go back to send the 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: dude the center, third. 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: And Blazer Buckley. It's just a lot of moving around. 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: Make me feel great at the beginning, So this time, 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: you know, it's been it's been awesome. 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: The fact that you came back and were as good 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: or better than ever, does that give you a lot 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: of confidence that you are going to be the same 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: player next year. 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: I'll be better. It'll be better than I was. 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: That's that's a year the progression that I take mestally anyway, 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: I don't I don't have any doubt that I prepare 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: and you know, be that from a mental and physical standpoint, 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: just Lord will and just how fast that process goes, 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: I don't know. And I'm gonna push it every day 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: and do my best to get better every day and 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: taking a step to do the right things put myself 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: in advantage. But I still think I'll be a better 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: player next year. 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: For visiting with DJ Reader, I don't know how much 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: stock you put in PFF rankings, but you are the 78 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: bengals highest graded defensive player this year, even a little 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: bit ahead of Trey Hendricksonho's obviously had a great season. 80 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Did you feel like you were playing as well as 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: you've played. 82 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: I feel like I was playing some goodball, you know, Yeah, 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: those games where you feel obviously feel better than others. 84 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: I felt like I was doing a really good job, 85 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: and though I didn't not really the numbers I wanted 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: pass rust while I feel like I. 87 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: Got a lot of pressures and won a lot of 88 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: one on. 89 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: One reps especially, so I was pretty excited about just 90 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: what I had done. You know, the numbers they'll come 91 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: and whatever they are, and I just felt like I 92 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: put a good resume on it. It kind of suck 93 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: that we weren't just get on team on defense and 94 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: certain things, and I really take pride in those things. 95 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: But I also know that, you know, there's other people 96 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: out there, and those people have to grow and with 97 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: growth will come more team. 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: Success than those type of undy spots. So but you know, 99 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: I can do better. 100 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: I can't play things better and do a whole lot 101 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: of stuff better, So there's so much room for growth 102 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: and improvement in my game. And from a team aspect, 103 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: I think that these young guys are only going to 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: get better just. 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: Another year in the system. 106 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: We played a lot of year one or two year 107 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: players out there, especially in the back end. Those fits 108 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: will only get better. So I was excited. I felt like, yeah, 109 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: so I felt like I was playing goodball and it 110 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: was good to you know, have the room with did 111 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: and just play around the way we deal with the group. 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: That I had felt over very fiery and a lot 113 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: of moments. 114 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: For a layman like me, the struggles in the run 115 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: defense are hard to understand because most of the Front 116 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: seven was back. It seemed like this was a group 117 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: that was among the NFL's best last year and yet 118 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: this year, from the very beginning, it was a struggle. 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's also other parts to fit and run 120 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: like it. 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: Teams who run the ball well aren't just gonna let 122 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: you play it with your five seven are You're gonna 123 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: make every player. 124 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: And your team tackle and every player on the team and. 125 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: Just see the fits. You know what I'm saying, and 126 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: you lose what you did. This veteran play just understanding 127 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: of the game and just for our defense acts fits 128 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 4: so little dad, So you gotta figure it out. You're 129 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: thinking a little bit more. And it is what it is. 130 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 4: There's nobody's fault. It's just the growth and growing pains 131 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: of will come with the game. And you couldn't say 132 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: what you want about having it beyond specific guys. 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: We just got to better. We gotta do better up front. 134 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: Front seven has to do better to make it a 135 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: little bit cleaner for these guys in the lifeing. 136 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: But you know, you also just gotta know that's gonna happened. 137 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: People are going to have two struggles when it comes 138 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: to those type of things. And it also it all 139 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: works hand in hand. You can't hard to stop it 140 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: and just be dominant over all the time. If it's 141 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 4: not what m I felt like at the end of 142 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: the season. You know those games probably when I got hurt, 143 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: I felt like we got a couple of games in 144 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: a row. We have really figured out those fits and 145 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: like understood what it takes on. 146 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: You know, that's what happens. 147 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: You have those right spots and then over time you 148 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: make enough of those players you're like, all right, that's 149 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: what it is. 150 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: The timing of your injury was brutal, late in a 151 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: contract here. I know that really bummed out your teammates 152 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: and your coaches. How tough was that for you emotionally? 153 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, it's tough, especially at the beginning of 154 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: the emotional Then you got to kind of like process 155 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: it as it is what it is. You never know 156 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: what happened, how it shakes out, So it's. 157 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: Not really something that's in my control. Now. You know, 158 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: ta put some good film out there. 159 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: Play football, and you always want to be able to 160 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: finish the season healthy and be able to have all 161 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 4: those cards in your hand, but like some still pretty 162 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: good cards and feel really good about where I'm at, 163 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: my chance. 164 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: To recover and be better. Like I said, so. 165 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: You know now to be on me and them and 166 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: to figure it out and or you know, whatever it is, and. 167 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: You know it sucks you miss out on some personal 168 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: things that you may want. 169 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: But you know, other than that, it was just as Minnis, 170 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I come back, I know 171 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: what I'm supposed to do out. 172 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: I'll figure all the other part out. You'll be thirty 173 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 3: in July. 174 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like there's any doubt in your mind 175 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: that you aren't going to be playing in the NFL 176 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: next year and beyond. 177 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not. 178 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: I watching guys play at like thirty four to thirty 179 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: five playing goodball. Shoot, the quarterbacks seem like they're getting 180 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: younger though, order they get these guys out there, especially 181 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: like Stafford. You look at that guy. I'm crazy, but 182 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: you know, you know you got I played a lot 183 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: of good balls. Still feel young, Like you said, I'll 184 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: just just be turning thirty in July, so I still 185 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: got some good time ahead of me. 186 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: You know. I'm just so excited to play. 187 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: I feel like I started out some of my best 188 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: years to leg but you know, only Thomas heard that. 189 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: It was a really strange year. Everybody expected the Bengals 190 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: to be one of the top two or three teams 191 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Joe gets hurt on the second day 192 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: of training camp, and it just seemed like it was 193 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: a scramble to try to get where you wanted to 194 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: be from the very beginning. 195 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's just the way the ball rover sometimes, 196 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: you know, I think that's just it. And you come 197 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: in with certain expectations and you need adversity, and you 198 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: never know what that adversity is going to be. It's 199 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: just got overcoming and I'm telling you know we are 200 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: already overcoming. Then some things you just can't overcome exactly. 201 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 4: But you know, stuff all like, we give ourself a 202 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: chance play some goodball. Jake came in there and tore 203 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: it up. Dies when your gung guys came in there 204 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: a bigger thing. So you can't look at it as 205 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: a wash. You just look at it as you know, 206 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: we had the opportunity to grow. Season is still good. 207 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: There's only a. 208 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: Certain my team may pops on the body. You always 209 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: want to be nacking, but that's just the way it 210 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: could crumble. 211 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Sometimes, Man, you have been an awesome Bengal, one of 212 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: the best free agents the franchise as has ever signed. 213 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: And from a selfish perspective, I hope there's another Cincinnati 214 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: contract to come. 215 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: Best of luck and rehabit. I appreciate the time, man, 216 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 3: me too, I appreciate it. 217 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: Bro. I'm not alone and hoping that DJ will return 218 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: to the Bengals. Here's defensive coordinator lou Anarumo. 219 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 5: I'd love to have DJ back, you know, love everything 220 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: about him. He's such a big influence in the locker room. 221 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: He's such a big influence on our defense and has 222 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: done so many great things for the city, the community, 223 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 5: and our team. You know, would really like to get 224 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: him back if we can. 225 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned DJ's high grades from Pro Football Focus. His 226 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: overall grade is eighty two point two and for sake 227 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: of comparison, all Pro Chris Jones of the Chiefs is 228 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: at eighty two point eight. 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Sam Hubbard is wrapping up season 235 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: number six in Cincinnati, and he has seen it all. 236 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: He's been on a team that started zero to eleven, 237 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: and he's been on a team that was less than 238 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: two minutes away from winning a Super Bowl. Sam says 239 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: that finishing this season with a winning record is a 240 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: significant goal on Sunday, even if it's not what they 241 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: were shooting for to begin the season. 242 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously we expected to be here playing for seeding, 243 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 6: playing for the playoffs, but that's not how it worked out, 244 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 6: and it's unfortunate. You know, we put in the work, 245 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 6: we fought hard for a long season, and we came 246 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: up short. But we still got one more game left 247 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 6: to finish with the winning season, and that's important to us, 248 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: it's important to the fans. 249 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: So we're gonna go out there and fight hard. 250 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: How about trying to get an AFC North win. 251 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, we want that too. That's huge for us, especially 252 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 6: against arrival like the Browns. So you know, it's a 253 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 6: great opportunity to finish season on the high note. I 254 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 6: know we finished in twenty nineteen with the home win 255 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: against the Browns and we went two and fourteen that year. 256 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 6: But that was really good momentum going in the off season. 257 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: A strange year. 258 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Expectations were so high and from the very beginning it 259 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: just didn't seem like things are going to fall you away. 260 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 261 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 6: It was a difference, was stranger, like you said, from 262 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 6: Joe going down early in training camp, all types of 263 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 6: stuff happening. You know, you just name all the things 264 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 6: that happen. It seems like it's just crazy. But that's 265 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 6: the life in the NFL. That's every year is going 266 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 6: to go, not how you draw it up, how you 267 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 6: expect it, and that's what we signed up for. 268 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Guys always leave at the end of the year, whether 269 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: it's free agency, whatever. Is there a feeling of this 270 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: might be the last time this group of guys gets 271 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: to play together. 272 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 6: I think everyone knows now that it's there's no playoffs, 273 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 6: this last week together, so we're gonna enjoy each other to. 274 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: The locker room. 275 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 6: We have the time we have because no matter what 276 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 6: things are gonna change next year, every year it's a 277 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 6: totally different team. 278 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: That's just how it goes. 279 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 6: So I think guys understand that are gonna, you know, 280 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 6: take this time to enjoy each other and work hard together. 281 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: I think there was a five game stretch where Joe 282 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: was fully healthy beat some of the best teams in 283 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. Do you leave the season feeling okay when 284 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: he's back, this is still one of the NFL's best teams. 285 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 286 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 6: Like like you said, that stretch, we were playing some really, 287 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 6: really good football in the middle of the year, and 288 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 6: you know, it's all about playing the best football at 289 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 6: the right time of the year. This year, we played 290 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 6: it in the middle of the season when we need 291 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 6: to be playing it at the end of the year. 292 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 6: And yeah, we have all the all the confidence in 293 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 6: the world and the guys we have in this locker 294 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: room when we're all together, So getting him back is 295 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 6: obviously key, and he's well on his way. So I 296 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 6: know this year is not. 297 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: What we all drew up. 298 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 6: And for me, this offseason, I'm gonna be thinking I 299 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 6: was trying to get back to where we were the 300 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 6: last two years and finishing the job. So I think 301 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 6: a lot of guys have them mine set too. 302 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: To put the twenty twenty three season in perspective. I 303 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: caught up with the greatest Bengal of all time this week, 304 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Anthony Munos. What do you think they're 305 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: playing for against Cleveland on Sunday. 306 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 7: Well, let's put it this way, interstate rivalry, pride, and 307 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 7: just to have a positive filling in your mouth when 308 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 7: you head into the offseason to get ready. You know, 309 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 7: it's that last game is always the one that's going 310 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 7: to give you a sour taste or say, hey, we 311 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 7: finished on a good note, let's build on it. 312 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: There have been positives this year, and one of the 313 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: biggest is that they know definitively that they have a 314 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: good backup quarterback. And Jake Browning, what did he show 315 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: you in the last month and a half. 316 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 7: He wasn't rattled, you know, And I like that with 317 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 7: the young guy when you come in and you know 318 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 7: you're filling in some big shoes and you just aren't rattled. 319 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 7: And he showed me his smarts and being able to 320 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 7: just play within the system. And that was a good 321 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 7: thing about it. You know, you talk about a backup, 322 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 7: and that's always nice to have, especially when you have 323 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 7: someone the caliber of Joe. You never know what's going 324 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 7: to happen, and you get Jake coming in and he 325 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 7: does pretty well. 326 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: So I was happy to see that. 327 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: So many things have to go right for a team 328 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl, and for this season for 329 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals, the adversity started on day two of training 330 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: camp when Joe Burrow strained his calf. How difficult is 331 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: that for professional football player when you're riding that roller 332 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: coaster all season long. 333 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 7: I think it makes it even more difficult when it's 334 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 7: the most important player on your team. 335 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: You know, Joe Burrow is a man. I'll tell you 336 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: what you know. 337 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 7: And I'm sure when that happened, you know, I talked 338 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 7: about it earlier. 339 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: When that happened, it. 340 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 7: Was kind of like, oh, even though you knew it's 341 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 7: going to be back, you just hate to see that 342 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 7: at the beginning of the season with such high expectations. 343 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 7: And first of all, you know, for me, in my 344 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 7: humble opinion, you know things are going to get started 345 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 7: slowly anyway, because of just the nature of the Beast 346 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 7: not playing any preseason. You have to work your way 347 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 7: into it. Now you have, you know, Joe not there, 348 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 7: that's going to add to it. So you know, it 349 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 7: was sad to see it and then all of a 350 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 7: sudden you see him coming on and things are getting better, 351 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 7: and then you see the thing with the risks. So 352 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 7: you know, it's one of those things you talk about 353 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 7: the last game of the season. Let's let's wipe that out, 354 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 7: let's rehab, and let's get back healthy and get rolling 355 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 7: for twenty twenty four. 356 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: As we take stock of this season and look ahead 357 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four, what are some areas that you 358 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: would like to prioritize for this team to reach its 359 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: potential going forward. 360 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, if we can just talk about 361 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 7: back up again. You know, you talk about Jake Brown, 362 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 7: and let's talk about Chase Brown. I mean the kid, 363 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 7: and I you know, I tell people you can see 364 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 7: somewhat of a guys can do in the preseason, but 365 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 7: the way he played, I thought that was great, not 366 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 7: only for the team, but I thought it was excellent 367 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 7: for Joe Mixon. 368 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: You know, having someone nipping at his heels. They're doing 369 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: pretty well. 370 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 7: So, you know, again, you talk about Jake being a backup, 371 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 7: and I was impressed with Chase Brown. Where you know, 372 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 7: we look look for in the you know, in the offseason, 373 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 7: as far as the team. You know, I think maybe 374 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 7: again it's an area that was overhauled. I think we 375 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 7: still need to continue to work on that offensive line. 376 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 7: I think to really and for me, it's more consistency. 377 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 7: I think we have individuals that are capable of doing it, 378 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 7: but I think it's it's consistency, you know, and someone 379 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 7: that gets a little frustrated at times with kind of 380 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 7: the state of what's going on. I'm thinking, you got 381 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 7: a three hundred and forty pounds left tackle, you got 382 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 7: a big old man at left guard. There's got to 383 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 7: be a way just to get under center and just 384 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 7: come off the football at times. But I understand that 385 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 7: the pass is big now in the NFL, and I 386 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 7: understand the pass is big with our Cincinnati Bengals, But 387 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 7: you still look at teams that you know, win championships, 388 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 7: win football games. They're not in a two point stance 389 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 7: all the time, and they're they're getting after it. You know, 390 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 7: if it's putting two guys behind the quarterback and getting 391 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 7: ten guys pushing your quarterback on third and one or 392 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 7: fourth to one, you know that the Eagles that brought 393 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 7: the surface do that. But I'd have to say that's 394 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 7: probably one of the areas that I would love to 395 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 7: see more consistency and come along with is yeah, let's 396 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 7: keep throwing the football, but when it's time to run 397 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 7: the football, let's be physical and make the defense pay 398 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 7: for it. 399 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Let me follow up on that big left tackle Orlando 400 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Brown Junior, because you two had a memorable zoom chat 401 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: prior to the season, and I know he considers it 402 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: an honor to play your former position. What did you 403 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: think of Orlando in his first year in a Bengals uniform. 404 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: I enjoyed watching them, you know. 405 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 7: If there's and I always looking, I love to give 406 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 7: all the positives, so I love watching. If there's just 407 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 7: one area where I would say, you know, again as 408 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 7: an offensive line, is just pad level a little lower 409 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 7: for big You know, he's a big man, and I 410 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 7: understand when you're six ' eight it's tougher to get 411 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 7: low compared to a guy that's sixty three six four 412 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 7: sixty five. 413 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: But if there's. 414 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: Anything that I would say, is just pad level a 415 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 7: little lower. But I enjoyed watching them, you know, I 416 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 7: thought the enthusiasm he played with was contagious. I love 417 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 7: what we have up front is just again, I can't 418 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 7: say it enough. The word that stuck is stuck in 419 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 7: my mind right now is consistency. Not overhauled the whole thing, 420 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 7: but just getting a little more consistent. 421 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: So, Anthony, the season ends against the Cleveland Browns. The 422 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: Bengals are zero to five against the AFC North. They're 423 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: eight and three against everybody else. They didn't have a 424 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: healthy Joe Burrow for four quarters in any of those 425 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: AFC North games. Is it that simple or were there 426 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: other things about the games against Cleveland, Baltimore and Pittsburgh 427 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: that stood out to you? 428 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of it. 429 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 7: But again, I'm going to get back to the physicality 430 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 7: of football games. I really believe when we played those games, 431 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 7: it appeared that those teams are a little more physical 432 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 7: than we were. They might have not necessarily, wasn't a fact, 433 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 7: but it appeared watching that they might wanted it a 434 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 7: little more. 435 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: And I think it's apparent. 436 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 7: And this is one of the parts of the games 437 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 7: that I do not like, and being a former offensive 438 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 7: football player, it appears that happens more on defense. 439 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: I'm not profiling or I'm. 440 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 7: Not generalized, but there's a little shove now and then 441 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 7: after plays, and it comes more from the defense. I 442 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 7: think there was a little more of that, and I 443 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 7: think you have to put a stop to that, not 444 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 7: to get a penalty, because as we know, the second 445 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 7: guy's always caught, but you can't allow a team to 446 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 7: do that. To me, it appears that those three divisional 447 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 7: teams have a tendency to do that and we got 448 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 7: to be on the other end of that. And I 449 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 7: think maybe there was just maybe a little more quickness 450 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 7: to the ball, maybe a little more physical but that's, 451 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 7: you know, that's a fine line, and that's to me, 452 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 7: that is something that can be resurrect I mean rectified. 453 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 7: It's not something like, oh my goodness, we can't. We 454 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: can't compete with these guys. We can't and I know 455 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 7: we can't. 456 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: So beginning next week, everybody's attention is going to turn 457 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: to the draft and free agency. Is there something at 458 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the top of the wish list the dynamic tight end, 459 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: somebody on the offensive or defensive line. Is there a 460 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: position group or something along those lines that you would 461 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: love to see them address? 462 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 7: You know what, I think it's something that uh and 463 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 7: I know we have some pretty good tight end, but 464 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 7: I want a dominant guy that that you have to 465 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 7: be able to say, Okay, we're concerned about this stud 466 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 7: tight end. He's a factor in this game. And I 467 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 7: think when you look at teams that have that impactful 468 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 7: tight end, it gives the other guys an opportunity, you know, 469 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 7: to go one on one or to pick your poison 470 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 7: who you're going to double team. So I think if 471 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 7: there's that tight end that we can say, man, this 472 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 7: is a guy that we can bring in and you 473 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 7: know he's going to be a pretty good blocker, but 474 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 7: he occupies the big area, that middle of the football field. 475 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 7: I think that's one area that maybe I would say, 476 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 7: I think i'd look there. 477 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: You've got your Hall of Fame sweatshirt on. Bengals fans 478 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: are thrilled this past offseason when Ken Riley joined you 479 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: in Canton. Now, Willy Anderson is a semi finalist for 480 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: the third year in a row. What do you think 481 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: of Big Willy's chances of becoming a Hall of Famer. 482 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 7: I think it's an excellent chance, especially with the percentages 483 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 7: when you've become a finalist, and I know he's been 484 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 7: a finalist, so I'm just I'm playing for more Bengal strifes. 485 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 7: Willie Anderson, Kenny Anderson, you know, because I want to 486 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 7: buy more. 487 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: You know. 488 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 7: One of the first things I did, I got my 489 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 7: Kenny Riley hat. I got my Kenny Riley shirt. I 490 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 7: want to get my seventy one jersey. I want to 491 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 7: get my fourteen Well I already have my fourteen jersey, 492 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 7: just put. 493 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: It back on. But I think he's got an excellent 494 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: chance of going in. 495 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 7: I look at the list, the career he had, and 496 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: again the percentages of those that have been finalists. 497 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: Of going in. I think he has an excellent chance. 498 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 7: So maybe we have another bust or two it up 499 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 7: to Canton and August this summer. 500 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: That would obviously be awesome. Last thing for Anthony Munoz. 501 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: Last year, Joe Burrow famously said the Super Bowl window 502 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: is my entire career, and now he's signed with the 503 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: Bengals through twenty twenty nine at least hopefully many years 504 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: beyond that. In your mind, do they go right back 505 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: to being one of the top Super Bowl contenders next 506 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: year when Joe's healthy? 507 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: I think so. I think. 508 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 7: You know, again, I've not looked closely on the free 509 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 7: agents or who they are going to might lose, but 510 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 7: what they have on the roster. I really believe they're 511 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 7: very talented and I think that they still are one 512 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 7: of the contenders. I think he comes back healthy, they 513 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 7: get rolling, things go well in the offseason. I can't 514 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 7: believe that they wouldn't be with who they have on 515 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 7: their roster. So, in my humble opinion, not only because 516 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 7: I'm a former Cincinnati Bengals football player, because I watch 517 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 7: the teams, I think they are one of the top 518 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 7: top teams in the league. 519 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: Always great to pick your brain. Happy New Year, thanks 520 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: for joining us. 521 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 7: Hey, Dan, always a pleasure to be with you. Happy 522 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 7: New Year, and August will come quickly. 523 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Finally, it's time for this week's Know the Faux segment. 524 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns opened the season with a twenty four 525 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: to three win over the Bengals on a rainy day 526 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: in Cleveland that saw Cincinnati finish with one hundred and 527 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: forty two yards of offense and a total of six 528 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: first downs. I said after that game that the Browns 529 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: defense was so good that if Cleveland got decent quarterback play, 530 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: the Browns would be a contender in the AFC. Well, 531 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: I was right, but little did I realize that thirty 532 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: eight year old Joe Flacco would turn out to be 533 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback. The Bengals won't see Flacco on Sunday. Kevin 534 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Stefanski is resting as many starters as possible since Cleveland 535 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: is locked in as the number five playoff seed in 536 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: the AFC. For more on the eleven to five Browns, 537 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: longtime Cleveland reporter Tony Grossi joined Dave laphaman me on 538 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals Game Plan Show. Here's my question for you. 539 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: How long have you covered the Browns and is this 540 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: the most remarkable season you have witnessed in that time? 541 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I have covered him, I think before Dave Lapham 542 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 8: was even drafted that long. Interviewed him at the combine. Yes, yes, yes, Yeah, 543 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 8: it's been a blast because it's it's been uh you know, 544 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 8: kind of the drama has been on the field this 545 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 8: year as opposed to off the field, and and they've 546 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 8: gotten better with every piece of adversity. And now that 547 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 8: Joe Flackup's story is just unbelievable. What's going on. So yeah, 548 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 8: it's been it's been a blast. And finally Browns are 549 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 8: in and the Bengals are the team that is playing 550 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 8: out the strength. 551 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 9: Tony, This this is nuts to me that the Browns 552 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 9: have thirty five giveaways, dead last in the NFL. Yeah, 553 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 9: twenty more giveaways in the Bengals. The Bengals have fifteen giveaways, 554 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 9: tied for third fewest. The Browns have had six return 555 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 9: touchdowns against them, most in the NFL. Four pick sixes, 556 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 9: tied to most. 557 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: In the NFL. 558 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 9: How the hell did they have eleven wins. You'd think 559 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 9: they'd be five and eleven instead of eleven and five. 560 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 8: I know, I mean, this is one for the This 561 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 8: season is defying all analytics that keep harping about, you know, turnovers, 562 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 8: and they keep on turning it over and they keep 563 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 8: on winning. Right, and Placo in five games has thrown 564 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 8: those two pick sixes. He hasn't had an interception free 565 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 8: games yet, and yet he looks like he's, you know, 566 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 8: in the prime of his career. He's gunning the ball 567 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 8: down the field. I don't know how to explain any 568 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 8: of it. I mean, their defense is excellent. It's kind 569 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 8: of played out of a any slump and it's playing 570 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 8: it's humming pretty well. They're well coached, and they've gotten 571 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 8: I think they hidden reason. It's a small reason, but 572 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 8: their special teams are so much better. They don't lose 573 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 8: games on special teams. I mean, they're a complete team 574 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 8: for the first time in a long time. 575 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: So Kevin Stefanski has made it abundantly clear he's going 576 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: to try to rest as many key players as he can, 577 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: understandably going into the postseason. Here's my question, though, why 578 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Jeff Driscoll and not PJ. Walker. 579 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 8: I think he might have been nailed down Coach of 580 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 8: the Year by winning a game with a fifth That's 581 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 8: only been done as far as we can tell, in 582 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 8: the strike season of nineteen eighty seven. But New England 583 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 8: won with five quarterbacks, one with Doug Flutey who crossed 584 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 8: the ticket line to get a cheap win. Another one 585 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 8: was one of their strike replacement players. I think what 586 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 8: it is is it's an opportunity for them to see 587 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 8: if he's better than PJ. Walker. They're a little uncomfortable 588 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 8: with PJ. Walker as the backup. He was a turnover machine. 589 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 8: He did win two games miraculously. I think Van Pelt 590 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 8: has some exposure that Driscoll, and he's the first quarterback 591 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 8: to start for both teams in the Battle of Ohio. 592 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 8: Knew that. I'm sure that's crazy I was, I was 593 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 8: shocked by his announcement today. It was we knew, you know, 594 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 8: he's going to rest a lot of guys, but Driscoll 595 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 8: just joined them last week and they needed a third 596 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 8: quarterback because their rookie During Thompson Robinson is on injured reserve, 597 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 8: uh with with an injury. So I guess it's a 598 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 8: it's a cheap way of seeing you know what he 599 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 8: can drink is he's not going to get much practice 600 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 8: time once they go into playoff mode. 601 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 9: Right, Okay, so the injury report comes out, seventeen players 602 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 9: are on it. Eight offense, seven defense, and both your kickers, 603 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 9: your place kicker and here punter. Foreshadowing you know what's 604 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 9: going to be coming. How many people do you think 605 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 9: they're going to elevate from the practice squad? Do you 606 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 9: think that anybody will get a couple of series before 607 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 9: they're yanked or what do you think is going to happen? 608 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, the punter will be back, Beharcas 609 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 8: he had a quad injury, missed the Jets game, but 610 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 8: they cut the practice squad punter, So I talked to Corey. 611 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: He'll be back. 612 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: Okay. 613 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 8: The kicker is still not ready so they one elevation 614 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 8: will go to the to the practice squad. Kicker Riley Patterson, 615 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 8: he's going to have to kick. I think now Skofanski 616 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 8: would not specify who's playing and who's not, other than 617 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 8: we know Flacco's not playing. But I think he's going 618 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 8: to clear the decks to the most of the familiar names. Yeah, 619 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 8: it's not like pre season. We have ninety players and 620 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 8: you could you could start all your second at third string, right, 621 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 8: you can't do that. But I think anybody who's on 622 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 8: that list with an injury, even though they didn't practice, 623 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 8: they'll be okay for the playoffs. So we're going to 624 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 8: see a lot of backups in this game. But there 625 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 8: are certain position groups where you know, running back Karimont 626 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 8: might not play. But but you only got two of 627 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 8: the guys there. You know, of Jerome Ford they're leading rusher, 628 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 8: and Pierre Strong who's got a lot of playtime. So 629 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 8: there will be some position groups will they'll be familiar names. 630 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: Tony Grossi is our guest. Both of these franchises, Tony 631 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: have quarterbacks who have among the biggest contracts in the NFL. 632 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: When does the Deshaun Watson deal make it difficult for 633 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: the Browns from a cap perspective. 634 00:29:54,280 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 8: Every year, because what's unique about his deal being totally guaranteed, 635 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 8: there are no shortcuts like Mahomes, you know. I think 636 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: Burrow has certain years where you can where you can 637 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 8: allocate resources differently. That's not the case with this one. 638 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 8: They've redid them this year, which means they push money forward. 639 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 8: So he's got a sixty eight million dollar cap hit 640 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 8: next year. I don't know if they could support that 641 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 8: whole thing. They're going to have to push that forward 642 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 8: at some point in the five year deal, and he's 643 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 8: been with them two years. They're gonna have to suck 644 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 8: it up and take his full cap charge. Whether it's 645 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 8: next year or the year after, I don't know, but 646 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 8: you can't keep moving it in. They'll be paying on 647 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 8: him till, you know, to the cows come home if 648 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 8: they do that. So it's going to take effect. There's 649 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 8: a couple of players that is going to be tricky, 650 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 8: whether they can bring them back or not. As a 651 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 8: result of. 652 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 9: It, Tony Jim Schwartz has just done an unbelievable job. 653 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 9: I mean, the defenses is just suffocating him. I mean 654 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 9: they are playing at such a high level. 655 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, is he Is. 656 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 9: There any buzz about him in the loop for a 657 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 9: head coaching opportunity? They say there's going to be potentially 658 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 9: you know, half a dozen, seven or eight. 659 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 8: Well, the day they hired him, I said he'd have 660 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 8: the most impact of any new face in the building. 661 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 8: And he made me look good because he has. He 662 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 8: has done that. He transformed their culture on defense. I 663 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 8: don't know, you know, he's in our age group a 664 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 8: little bit there. Yees over fifty and the trend still 665 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 8: looks like it's going to be offensive coaches. Who knows 666 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 8: if he gets you know, if they get a long 667 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 8: ride into the playoffs, he might get a look. There 668 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 8: was a recent older defensive coach fired recently. I'm trying 669 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 8: to recall his name, so, I mean, it's not out 670 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 8: of the realm that he would, but I'm not getting 671 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 8: that vibe right now. But if they you know, one 672 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 8: or two years in the Age championship picture, and he's 673 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 8: gonna get a look, I would think. 674 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 9: And final question, and thanks for your time. As always, 675 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 9: you're always gracious and we appreciate that. Kevin Stefanski, is 676 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 9: he Coach of the Year, and is Jim Schwartz assistant Coach. 677 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: Of the Year. 678 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 8: Well, the second question, you know, the secret to this 679 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 8: team is Bill Callahan. There's no doubt about it. I mean, 680 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 8: on their third left tackled or the third right tackle, 681 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 8: there's second left tackle. They've had to play with another center. 682 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 8: They the only one who hasn't miss the game that 683 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 8: is the right guard, Wyatt Teller, And they haven't missed 684 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 8: the beat. So I don't want to be remiss in 685 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 8: not mentioning him now coach of the Year. Uh, it's 686 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 8: got to be between him and Dan Campbell. Now Dan Campbell, 687 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 8: I mean they he's listed the Titanic out of Lake Michigan. 688 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: I went in that. 689 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 8: Division for the first time in thirty years. I don't 690 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 8: want you know that's not a small accomplishment. They should 691 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 8: have an AFC and an NFC Coach of the Year. 692 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 8: But I'll tell you if I were voting, I would 693 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 8: vote for Stefante because I lived through this thing. He 694 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 8: won games with p J Walker, DeShawn Watson, Dori and 695 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 8: Thompson Robinson in the rookie one might have been the 696 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 8: biggest game when they played Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh, because you 697 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 8: know what those division games mean and they needed that game, 698 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 8: and they just just outlasted Pittsburgh, you know. And Thenny 699 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 8: Benn Placo is just one four in a row. I 700 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 8: tell you, if he went with Riscal, how can you 701 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 8: deny it? 702 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 703 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: There's an excellent point about Bill Callahan though, and I 704 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: do think Bill needs to spend more time with his 705 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: son and his grandkids. 706 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 7: You know. 707 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's been awesome. I mean that line has been 708 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 8: a secret to everything, you know, and even mentioned they 709 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 8: haven't had Nick Chubb since week two, so and yet 710 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 8: they reached what everyone you know, even the most optimistic prognosticators, 711 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 8: maybe since I think they could get to eleven wins, 712 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 8: I didn't, but that considering what they've gone through, it's 713 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 8: remarkable and it's made them stronger. It's one of those 714 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 8: things that you couldn't predict. 715 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: All right, thanks to Tony Grossi and that's going to 716 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, 717 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: brought to you by pay Core, Proud to be the 718 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Bengals official HR software provider by Alta Fiber future proof 719 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business and community 720 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: to a new level, and by kettering health the best 721 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: care for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official 722 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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