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It is Cowboys text line eight 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.000 one seven two nine zero three two nine eight again 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.120 eight one seven two nine zero three two nine eight. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.520 Patrick is monitoring that thing, so he'll let me know 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.760 if there's anything interesting that comes through there. I've already 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.960 got a few questions that I've gotten from some of 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.000 you on Twitter, so we'll get to some of those 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.880 and try to get some some good thoughts from you guys. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.720 Some questions from you guys at our panel here can answer. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:35.040 Uh, So let's jump in. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.560 Let's start first with some injury updates. Got Stephan Gilmour, 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.680 who did not practice was shoulder injury. What are we 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:42.839 hearing about him at this point. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.119 Spoke with Stefan Gidmore yesterday in the locker room, and 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.760 he sounds like he's he's definitely going to be a go. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.200 His comment was whatever it takes, that's his quote. So 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.520 he said that he's played through much worse over the 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.280 course of his illustrious career. He knows exactly what these 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.560 games mean. This is why he's, you know, was looking 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.720 forward to help him put the Cowboys in this position. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.840 So barring a massive setback, I think you see Stefan 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.399 Gilmore on the field. Same goes for Tyler Smith. Tyler 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.320 Smith returned to practice yesterday, albeit in a limited capacity, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.919 but good news, he's on schedule to get back Zach Martin. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.840 He rested yesterday, but the expectation is if he isn't 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.480 back on the field today, it'll be before the end 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.320 of the week he will. They expect that he'll be 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.519 back on the field for the Cowboys as well. Full 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:30.639 complement of offensive lineman there Jonathan Hankins initially pr scats 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.160 just a little bit by putting did not participate next 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.120 to him, but turns out it was a technical error. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.560 He actually was a limited participant in practice yesterday as 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.760 he continues to work through his ankle injury, so he's 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.959 expected to play as well. More positive news Malie Hooker. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.280 The ankle injury that he's been dealing with for weeks 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.680 now cost him the Buffalo game. He's back to full 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.040 participation in practice, so it looks like Malie Hooker is 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.800 back to as close to one hundred percent as you 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.080 can get. Cowboys overall trending in the right direction health wise. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.760 Yeah, you're going to Gilmore's gonna wear a harness on 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.920 his shoulder, and uh, you know my experience with the harnesses, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.560 you're always worried about the range of motion because it's 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.840 done with straps and you know, laces and stuff like 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.720 that to to sent it down to make sure that 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.400 it's okay. And you know, I was talking to some 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.400 people about it. Have we come you know, have we 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:24.200 developed a better one? You know? And the comments were, no, 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.760 we've we've kind of we've we've really found one that 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.120 works really well for our players that doesn't limit the 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.960 range of motion that you have, but it's able to 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.480 protect the shoulder, fits under the pads and it's just 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.400 it it works very easily and they're very comfortable with that, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.840 and so he'll give it a go. And like Patrick 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.880 was saying, you know, talking to him one on one, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.440 you know, he's you don't get many opportunities to play 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.920 in playoff games, and so you got to got to 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.280 do what you can and that's what he's doing. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.000 How cancarn of you guys that Tyler Smith, although he 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.760 appears that he's going to be able to play, will 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.920 still be limited by this planner fashion. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.720 It's it's I think it's I would say this, it 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.840 is it's never good to have an all pro type 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.440 of a player not play and be limited. The thing 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.800 that gives me a little comfort is the fact that 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.719 we've seen TJ. Bass play at a really solid level, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.760 and you know, it's not like sometimes you throw guys 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.839 in there and they just completely fall apart. And every 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.200 time they've asked him to play, he's been up to 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.160 the task and he continues to get more experience. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.080 He continues to. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.560 Work with the oddish and Tyron Smith and others and 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.640 all that. So, yeah, is it do you want to 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.520 you know, Tyler Smith to be out? No, absolutely not. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.000 But if it came down to he just can't go 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.159 or he just can't play at this level. Having TJ 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.000 Bass is that backup that they could put in there 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.200 in the middle of a game and things not completely 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.919 fall apart. Gives you at least some confidence that you 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.000 can go win a game there. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.960 Yeah, that's got to make you feel good knowing that 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.320 there's not this monumental fall off. As far as the 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.680 talent level from Tyler Smith to TJ Bass, are they 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.160 the same player? Absolutely not. Tyler Smith is his Pro 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.040 Bowl caliber all both call pro caliber. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.320 But TJ. Bass he's a gamer. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.240 He's been in there more than once this season and 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.520 he's shown each time that he can he can deliver. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.120 Now that being said, I was watching in the media 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.400 portion of practice yesterday, Tyler Smith was moving quote unquote 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.080 well in his individual drill, So that's promising. Of course, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.640 that's different from you know, taking snaps and trying to 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.320 anchor down and push up against you know, three hundred 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.279 pound guys and two hundred and seventy found pound guys 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.560 coming at you. But it looks like he was moving 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.880 a little. He was moving well. He wasn't favoring that foot, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.040 which is kind of what I was looking for, and 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.919 that wasn't that wasn't present yesterday. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.000 So he looks good, looks on the right track. Again. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.360 It'll be tested though in the game obviously, but if 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.160 for whatever reason he kind of struggles or he has 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.200 a setback during the game, TJ. Bass has shown, like 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.600 Brian said, he can come in and he can get 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:57.600 it done. A. J. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.640 Dillon popped up on the injury report for the Packers. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.000 He did not practice yesterday. How much would that be 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.480 a blow for them if they can't get a J. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:06.120 Dillon ready. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.240 I'm not a huge AJ Dillon fan, really, I'm not, 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.160 and I'm but I am a fan of Jones and 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.839 I think they're a different football team. You could watch 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.160 the Giants game where Jones wasn't a part of it, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.520 and Dylan was, and their offense wasn't as good, you know, 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.760 and I I do, I do worry. I think with Dylan, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.760 I think he's lost that ability. There's no explosiveness to 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.880 his game. It's much like watching and watch him get 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.919 in the game and just completely wreck shot. But it 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.080 was almost like watching Zeke play at the end where 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.880 there wasn't the birth, there wasn't the the you knew 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.320 in that body that there was a time where it 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.320 was that way. But he's not the same player that 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.080 he was. And I the one, like we're talked about yesterday, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.720 Aaron Jones is the one that scares me, you know 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.279 that how how committed will the Packers be to just 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.279 lining up and seeing if Dallas and Dallas has played 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.640 really well since the Buffalo game on run defense, but 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.640 how committed are they to just lining up and running 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.880 the football. Because Aaron Jones has had some really outstanding 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.440 games against Cowboys. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.240 And Aaron Jones definitely he's the one you want to 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.640 worry about. AJ Dillon though if he's not available for 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.920 this game, it does impact what they're going to try 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.280 to do because they try to play complimentary football between 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.600 their two running backs, not completely different from what the 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.360 Cowboys try to do with Pollard and Rico and Dylan 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.520 also does give them at least some ability as a receiver. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.280 Out of the backfield as well. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.120 So I mean, this is a guy who rushed for 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.040 more than six hundred yards, not far behind Aaron Jones 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:42.840 in that capacity. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.320 So I mean, is he Aaron Jones? Absolutely not. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.960 But if he's not able to go, if he's hobbled 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.040 or slowed, it is going to impact one of the 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.560 bigger parts of their scheme, which is they're hoping to 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.720 run the ball early and often against the Cowboys. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.200 Yeah, the way I look at it is it's more 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.520 about touches. Obviously, Aaron Jones is not. You're gonna lie 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.720 up and run thirty five times, right, So you kind 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:03.400 of want that bound. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:04.880 They want that balance between the two. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.720 And if they don't have him, then it becomes like 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.400 who else is going to sure get back that they're 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.800 going to use to spell Jones to still keep their 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.560 running game going. 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Brian, A big picture. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.720 Tell me what this defense does best and where they 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:04.680 are most challenged. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.080 I think they're really the best thing they do is 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.720 actually play is rush the passer. I think when you 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.280 look at it's a three four front. It plays a 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.280 mix of nickel and dime. In the secondary, they'll play 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.400 some four to three front is a change up. They're 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.600 very similar to the Cowboys defense and a lot of 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.040 metrics when it comes to you know, with the with 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.800 playing with pass rush and pressures and things like that, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.600 except Cowboys get far more interceptions. This group doesn't get 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.240 any interceptions at all. It's been they've only got seven, 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.240 which is only one more than Tennessee and that they're 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:39.959 in last place. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:40.920 So but the. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.559 Packers packers there best when they're rushing the passers and 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.000 they're playing past defense. And I mean that in a 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.520 way of of their you know, the way they get 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.080 after the quarterback here. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.800 I mean, yeah, he perfectly noted there. When it comes 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.000 to this particular defense, they're so dependent upon the success 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.440 of their pass rush, and I mean they almost forty 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.640 percent of the time they pressure the opposing quarterback. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:02.760 That's phenomenal. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.120 But then when you break it down and you look 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.880 at how long it takes, and we've mentioned this a 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.760 couple times, it takes them a little bit longer to 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.040 develop their QB pressure then it takes for Dak Prescott 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.120 to comfortably throw the ball So all things considered, if 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.839 Dak Prescott gets his status quo level of protection, he 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.720 should be able to get that ball out quickly and 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.720 get it to his playmakers. And then that secondary for 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.000 the Packers, they're kind of in trouble in that capacity 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.400 when it gets to the red zone. They really struggle 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.200 in the red zone as far as coverage is concerned, 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.440 but not necessarily their pressure. They have eight sacks in 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.960 the red zone, but most of those sacks come on 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.200 that three or four man They don't like to send 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.160 blitzes in the red zone. They don't like to send 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.680 blitzes on second or third downs either. They're primarily first 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.920 down blitz team. So just some things that the Cowboys 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.840 can keep an eye on. So in the red zone, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.400 particularly if the Cowboys going right back to them being 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.560 able to protect Dak Prescott, if they can negate that 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.560 pass rush that has eight sacks, then it's primarily going 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.079 to be zone coverage, and you know, Dak Prescott should 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.840 be able to hit his the guy is fairly easily. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.880 Yeah, they're gonna hunt matchups is what they're going to 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.520 try and do. And I think Rashawn Gary, it's funny. 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.160 I was talking to an advanced scout for another team 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.920 on the way over here, and I said, hey, listen 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.200 to you guys played. You guys played Green Bay. Tell 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.240 me about what your concerns were, you know, going forward. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.439 I go, I'm watching the tape and I think Rashawn 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.840 Gary is their best pass rusher. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.760 And this guy said, absolutely is. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.920 He says, you got to worry about him and Kenny Clark, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.079 and those are the two names. But they've got a 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.080 kind of a good little rotation. Preston Smith's a good player, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.800 Lucas van Ness, who's a rookie, it gets in there. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.000 And there's another guy, Carl Brooks. But Gary and Clark 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.440 are the two that I worry about the most because 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.040 Gary will line up on both sides of the formation. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.199 But this week, We've said it in the weeks past, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.880 I expect this will be the one where Terrence Steele 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.400 will be the majority of the time. We'll probably get 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:57.360 We'll get Rashawn Gary here. Joe Barry, the coordinator for 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.719 the Packers. He's gonna hunt matchups and he's gonna he's 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.800 gonna move Gary around the thing that you know, he's 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.000 the most productive player they have. He's the type of 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.880 player that gives when you watch Steel play, he's the 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.959 type of guy that gives Steel trouble. Elite speed, quickness, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.199 and agility. Those are the things that kind of and 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.440 then steal kind of with sometimes with power. But he's 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.240 able to kind of wash some guys, you know, kind 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.400 of match up that way. But Gary wins a variety 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.520 of different ways. That's what makes him hard because you 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.320 watch him break down blockers. And then because I went back, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.000 they went back and watched all their sacks, and you know, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.120 he's the guy that's kind of the Him and Clark 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.160 are the ones that are just the ones that are 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.120 constantly providing the pressure for you. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.760 And because those guys, Clark and Gary are so good 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.040 at what they do, it helps make the other guys better. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.000 And that presents a defensive front that is good at 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.880 getting pressure at any particular role on the defensive line. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.040 Because I also look at Preston Smith. We know him 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.120 well from being once being one half of the Smith Bros. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.280 With him and Zadarius Smith. But you got him, Kenny 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.200 Clark getting the pressure up the middle. Devonte White, He'll 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.400 get his pressures in his sex as well. So it's 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.760 not entirely unlike the Cowboys defense in the aspect of 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.040 they can generate pressure from any one of those spots 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.600 on the defensive line, primarily because you have to worry 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.480 so much about guys like Gary on the outside and 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.400 a guy like Kenny Clark on the inside. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:24.760 Yeah. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.920 One of the interesting things about this defense, and you've 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.760 been talking about the passing defense, they've only allowed three 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.360 hundred yards plus twice. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.520 In seventeen games. They've done it twice. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.200 Now here's the interesting part though about that they have 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.120 not played a lot of really great teams. I think 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.320 the best, in my opinion, the best of the offense 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.920 is that they've played have been the Rams. You can 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.760 put Detroit in there, but Detroit got over three hundred 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.680 yards passing against them. But the Rams are probably the 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.680 best of the teams that didn't get three hundred yards. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.640 And I don't know if they were at full capacity 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.440 at that point when they didn't. But that being said, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.240 my question for you is, is a lot of what 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.840 we're seeing with the Packers, particularly miss it instance, talking 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.560 about their past defense a result of the teams that 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.200 they've played, and they've done really well against lesser offenses. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.600 When do you think this really translates against a high 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:12.960 powered offense like the Cowboys. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.040 Baker Mayfield tore him up, Yeah, you know, throwing the football. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.520 He absolutely did. And you go back and watch that game. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.240 But JayR Alexander was suspended because he went out to 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.840 the previous week against Carolina and decided he was going 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.000 to call heads wow, and and you know they're like, listen. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.080 That's a bizarre story. Man. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.800 He's from he's from Charlotte and he thought. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.480 You know what, he just decided I'm going He thought 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.400 he was in high school again, and you know, because 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.000 it was a local game that he was going to 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:37.960 be captain that day. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.160 But he wasn't, and so they suspended him. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.040 And what happened when you watched, when you watch the 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.400 Tampa game, they tried to they tried to work around 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.800 him not being in the game, and Carrington Valentine was 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.760 the was the guy that took his place. Played a 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.960 lot of zone coverage in that game. I mean a 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.560 lot of zone coverage. And I mean it's like and 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.520 it's third and five and they're nine yards off and 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.119 they're just kind of working underneath and you're just going, Okay, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.360 you're going to continue to play soft this whole game 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:10.080 at Baker's just. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:10.880 Bump, boom, boom. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.800 There's a couple of times they sacked him. They knocked 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.280 the ball loose out of his hand one time. I 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.400 mean there's pressure that was there. But when it came 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.600 to throwing and playing pass defense, it was like Joe 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.840 Berry went into this like conservative. You know, Oh, I 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.400 don't have Alexander today. I've got to got to protect 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.680 everybody out here. He's got some issues that he's going 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.919 to deal with in this game. And because Dallas will well, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.840 Dallas will stress you at tight end, and they'll stress 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.679 you at and I believe they'll stress. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.200 You at running back. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.959 I think this is a week where you need to 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:48.040 take advantage of Walker and then you know, and also 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.960 to Campbell, the two linebackers. You know, Patrick always talks 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.919 about playing underneath and you know kind of working you know, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:59.640 combinations and stuff like that. Walker is a is a blitzer. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.960 He's not a cover guy. When they put him in coverage, 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.600 it's usually bad. And Campbell's the same way they they 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.919 they I would do and these are linebackers, Yeah, these 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.159 are the two inside linebackers. I would do anything like Okay, 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.879 how do I how do I get Walker to have 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.480 to cover? How do I get Campbell to have to cover? 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.879 They might say, you know, we can't we you know, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.399 And I wonder if Carolina's tight ends had really a 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.520 good day against these guys. You might and watch Carolina 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.240 play and it was because of the linebacker play. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.760 They just these guys aren't very good cover guys. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:33.840 Now. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.720 I can say Walker can blitz, that's the one thing. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.720 He's got a feel for how to do that. But 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.800 if he's in coverage, I think you need to you 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.400 need to find a way to you know. But they're 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.800 gonna they're gonna take Seede Lamb and they're gonna put 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.159 Alexander because Alexander will play both sides and on third 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.919 down and long he'll go down and play in the slot. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.359 So he's they're comfortable doing that. 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.040 Is this a game against c Yeah? 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:58.320 Yeah. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.439 Is this a game where maybe the Calways look at 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.200 it and say, let's do a lot of twelve personnel 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.280 and throw out of it, because then you do create 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.960 scenarios where your linebacker's gonna happen. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:06.440 It very well. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.480 Got two tight ends, absolutely, you're going to have to cover. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.400 Yeah, you're you know, and that's that You're absolutely right 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.480 about that, because because if you also another guy that 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.840 I looked at and I'm watching him play this, Jonathan Owens, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.800 their safety. You know, you look at him in coverage 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.800 like there, and I'm thinking, God, he gives up a 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.119 lot of plays, and then you go look at the 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.639 metrics on him. He's given up the most touchdowns of 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.800 any of the body in the secondary of four. You know, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.840 he's give up four touchdowns off twenty one receptions. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.200 You know, he'll struggle with balance. And I'm like, so. 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.480 The Cowboys, like you said, look for the Cowboys to formation, 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.560 maybe Owens into coverage and then maybe these linebackers in 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.080 the coverage as well, and take advantage of that. 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.320 Their personnel doesn't match up will against what the Cowboys present. 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.359 Their scheme secondary was doesn't match up will with what 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.920 the Cowboys present. And this is one reason why a 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.679 couple of days ago, IAD named Jake Ferguson as the 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.280 possible X factor for the same reason Brian's saying their linebackers. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:19:59.480 Do not cover will. 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.240 They don't want cover, they want to go after and 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.679 get the quarterback. Well, the problem with that against an 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.359 offense lad by Dak Prescott. Is Dak Prescott excels against 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.080 the blitz. So you're kind of damned if you do. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:11.800 Damned if you don't. If you drop back in coverage 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.520 and you're one of the Packers linebackers, you don't cover, well, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.080 he's got you. Okay, you blitz him, He's got you. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.320 And you just took someone out of coverage, which opens 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.439 up the middle of the field for slamp pat inside 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.640 slants and Jake Ferguson and you know, like you said, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.320 maybe run out of a twelve. But they just it's 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.600 a very very bad matchup for this Packers secondary. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:31.160 Very bad. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.520 Now, let's talk about the flip side of that. We 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.720 talked about what they do well and what they don't 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.480 do so well. Appears to be their rush defense. Yeah, 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.520 right now, they are ranked twenty eighth in the NFL. 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.480 They have allowed a two hundred yard day rushing four 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:45.399 times this season. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:46.280 That is a lot. 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.040 But here's the interesting part. Over the last four games, 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.560 they haven't alloted one hundred yards to a team. That 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.399 would be Tampa Bay at Carolina at Minnesota Chicago. 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:55.560 We just talked about the fact. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.000 That same team we worked for here, right, Yeah. 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.000 Yeah, so it's kind of a little bit of both. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.240 My question is, do you think that these last four 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.520 games indicate that maybe they have solved their rushing defense 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.439 type issues or do you think it was just the 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.960 level of competition that they were playing and maybe that's 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:12.840 why those numbers weren't think. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.120 I think they are who they are, and I think 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.200 the Cowboys are who they are as well. I mean 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.400 there's there's they're capable of times playing. They're really similar 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.240 if you look at again, if you go in to 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.760 look at metrics for the two, they're both kind of 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.879 mid pack defenses when are mid pack run defenses. But 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:31.840 you know they've given up the fifth most yards you 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.359 mentioned all those two hundred yard rushers. You know, you 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.360 watch when people run the ball at them. They don't 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.879 get off blocks. They really really don't. And that's it, 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.840 and it's a common it's a common theme. And they 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.240 don't tackle particularly well in the secondary when they have 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:47.960 to when they and that happens, so. 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.920 They give up some big plays that way. 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.960 But I think that if I wish I had confidence 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.399 in Dallas's running game, I really do. I wish I 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.159 had the confidence to say, yeah, Dallas is going to 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:00.840 just line up in the gonna run the football, and 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.080 they're gonna show balance here and they're gonna I think 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.520 Mike's gonna try. I think he's absolutely gonna try. Why not, 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.320 you know, until they prove that you can stop them. 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.159 But a lot of it has to do with I 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:17.080 just think that that when you look at how they play, 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.760 they they don't tackle particularly well, like I said, in 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.840 the secondary, and they don't and they get they get blocked, 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.320 hats on, hats on that front seven when people run 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.399 the ball at them, and that's a that's a problem 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:28.720 for them. 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.400 The funny thing about it is is that the narrative 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.440 is that the Cowboys run defense is poor. And it's 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.720 not poor. You would like it to be more consistent, 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.879 but it's not poor. Packers run defense is poor. And 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:42.919 I mean, for example, because I was breaking it down 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.760 for Science Lab, which dropped this morning shameless plug. They 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.440 allow They have allowed fifty seven runs of ten plus 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.520 yards this season. They're averaging one hundred twenty eight rushing 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.360 yards per game four point four and the list goes 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.520 on and on. They have a tough percentage of only 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.280 nineteen percent. They do not defend the run well favorable 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.400 matchup for a guy like Tony Pollard and Rico Dowd 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.320 or potentially to get going. And if they can get going, 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.159 then that only helps, you know, potentially open up the 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:11.920 passing game more. 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:13.200 Okay, So here's the question. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.600 When you have a situation like this where you're facing 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.760 a team that where their weakness is is where you 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.800 would say, of all the things the Cowboys do well 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.600 on offense, it's also matches up with where your weakness. 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:25.320 Probably is as well. 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:27.720 Do you force the issue and say this is a 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.000 game where we get right and we get our running 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.000 game going, or do you just say, hey, we're going 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:33.840 at your strength with our strength and we think we're 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:34.320 better than you. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:40.399 I view it as their secondary is outside of hire Alexander, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.080 outside of him, that secondary can be torched. 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:44.399 It can be torched. 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.480 We just finished talking about how the linebackers are pooring 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:48.880 coverage outside of Alexander, who himself, I know he's missed 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:50.520 some games so he doesn't have any interceptions. 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:51.800 They don't take the ball away well. 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.359 In there, I say you are who you are and 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.840 that you are an explosive passing attack, and you are 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.200 more explosive in that aspect. When you're at home home, 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.240 and you're at home, by the way, so take advantage 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.640 of a secondary that will give up chunk yardage and 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.680 then you can play You can use that to play 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.520 into the fact that they can't defend the run either. 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.040 So it's still a game where I say, you attack 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.159 the ball, you attack them in the air, try to 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:16.959 get up on a fast start, make it a two 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.720 possession game, and then you have the comfort level knowing that, hey, 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.080 Tony Pollin and Rico Dwell could probably sought this game 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.600 away over the course of the next two quarters three quarters. 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.359 However the else it needs to be. But I would 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:29.760 still attack with the pass first. 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.520 Yeah, I agree with Patrick there. The thing that's interesting 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.600 to me is which team is going to be able 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.080 to run the ball the best, you know, because that 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:42.399 is the thing that both teams have to fear. Is 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.320 though it turns into you're letting the other team rush 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.679 the passer, that that clearly is the Cowboys strength rushing 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.200 the passer, especially at home. The Packers have got to hope, like, hey, 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.119 our best shot of winning this thing is finding a 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.280 way not to let Dak Prescott beat us, because if 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.000 we can't get to him like Patrick talking about he'll 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:02.480 carve that secondary up. 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.160 So Mike, Mike has done a pretty good job. 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.680 I love you know, the hell if they would have 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.480 run the ball more in the second half of the 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.840 game last year they played, you know, they would have 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:15.800 won this game. I think that's what I think, that's 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.240 what kind of got Mike soured on m kellen Moore 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.720 a little bit. You know that, you know, dam we're 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.960 up two scorers and we're sitting there throwing the football. 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.439 But to Patrick's point, that's what you do. Get up 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.879 and then don't go into a shell, but find a mix. 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.359 You know, if you're hey, first down throw, second down runs, 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.400 you know, just kind of just kind of go. 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:35.679 Back and forth with that. 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.600 Don't just sload up on a bunch of like you 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.720 did against Detroit first down runs and all of a 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.280 sudden you're sitting in second in eight all day. Because 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.159 that that could be that could be a problem for 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:45.240 the for the Cowboys. 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.720 Also a great opportunity for the Cowboys. You know, once 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.680 they get into the red zone. Packer's red zone defense, 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.800 as far as the run goos, it's it's not great. 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.639 I mean, they've allowed five more touchdowns than the Cowboys 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.520 have on only five more attempts, so you know they 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.679 don't clamp down. Let the Cowboys do. So the Cowboys 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.000 run defense between the twenties. It can be solid, but 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.080 they'll allow a chunk play here and there. But when 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.000 they get you know, go to go packages, they clamp 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.119 When the Packers getting the gold to go packages, it's 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.119 basically a turnstyle, right. So it's a good opportunity for 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.879 the Cowboys to help build Tony Rico and maybe even 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.399 one hundred Lipkey's confidence when they get down. 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:22.119 There at the end of the day. 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:23.960 I don't think the Cowboys have to have a crazy 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.720 great rushing data when what I think they should have though, 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.080 is I want to look at the end of the 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.720 day and see are your yards per carry four and 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:31.119 a half? 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:32.400 If you get up to five. 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.560 I think that's what you really care more about is 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.600 when they want to run the ball, are they getting 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.080 success out of it. You don't have to change what 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.080 you do offensively because I think right now you do 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:41.840 what got to hear, which is throw the ball, put 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.240 the ball in dack' say in and let him work. 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.480 But I do think if your running game can give 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:46.720 you something, I think that help. 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.320 Is my pro personal friend who I was talking with 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:52.520 on the way. He's like, listen, Green Bay's got a 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.360 good young team. He goes, But that's the problem. 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:55.960 They're young. 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.760 He goes, I don't think they're ready for the stage 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:00.920 about to play on now. 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.879 And we'll see. But that's that's that was his opinion. 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:04.280 He goes. 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.399 They they've got players that you absolutely have to be 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.600 concerned about. He goes, I think the quarterback is going 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.600 to be fine one day. He says, but there is 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.000 a really really young team, and he goes, you just 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.720 he goes, he goes. 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:16.560 I watch your team a lot. 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.920 He goes, You guys got veteran players, you got playmakers. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.920 You make it tough on you people, and so by 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.960 all means, though this is a game you should win. 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:25.639 Yeah, you know. 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.200 And that's the interesting thing about young teams. You gotta 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.520 put them where got You let them start thinking they 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.640 got a shot. You let them start thinking they got 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:34.840 a shot, and they're like, we got a shot, And 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:35.840 young young people. 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:36.359 Don't know what they don't know? 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:36.600 Right. 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.560 I put that exact question to Jordan Lewis in the 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.720 locker room yesterday. I said, you know, Jordans, you guys 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.480 have the advantage of being the veterans coming into this. 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.639 You've got a playoff experience, you know, the magnitude of 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.160 the game, So advantage there as far as football IQ 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.440 is concerned. However, when you're playing a group of young 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.879 guys who don't necessarily grasp how big the stage is, 0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.159 they get to play more loosely. Isn't that kind of 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.000 a challenge in and of itself? He was like, absolute, 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.040 those guys are gonna go out there, play fast, play 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.239 loose because they know it's a playoff game, but they 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.320 don't necessarily feel it like a veteran. 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:07.520 Yeah, they're playing house money. 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:08.200 Yeah exactly. 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.920 And you know the veterans, especially those guys that really 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.840 long too, like how many more chances am I going 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.080 to get this? So it really becomes a lot more 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:16.959 pressure than when you're in your first, second, third year 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.919 in the NFL and you're just like, hey, we're here already, 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.000 all right, let's see what we can do. 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.000 You know, I think I saw I saw a graphic. 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.560 I think I had this right. Half their team is 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.959 gone from last year when this to these two teams met. Yeah, half, 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.400 well their team is gone. That's crazy, And I mean, 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.080 it's just that's that's the turnover that they've had from 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.320 the time the Cowboys played them last year in the 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.120 Rego season to where we are today. 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.840 And for to that point, there are a lot of 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.240 people asking if there's any familiarity that McCarthy can kind 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.600 of use. Not really, there are only five people on 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.600 that roster. One back Tor he's on ir Yeah, Aaron 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.640 Jones is the only notable guy that's still on that 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.360 roster that has that played under McCarthy. 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Visit thestardistrict dot com for the full directory. 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.440 Welcome Back, final segment of the break Life in SWBC 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.240 Mortgage Studios at the Star. 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.520 Have you guys looked at the weather report for Sunday? 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.240 Yeah, looks a little interesting there, dune it It's gonna 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.040 be interesting. I might I might be calling on you, Brian, 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.680 because I know you look at those things as a challenge. 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.239 So may be like, hey, Brian, can you come out 0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.520 and scoop me? Because I don't want that challenge of driving. 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.360 If there's gonna be ice on the road, it's called 0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:56.960 fetza string. 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.080 Yes, I know I'm gonna be like, Brian, I need 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:00.960 you to come get me cause I don't want to get. 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:01.240 Out in that. 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.360 But yeah, but the problem is, though I have to 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:04.600 be at the game three hours. 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.280 I'll go with you with me. I go three hours 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:06.680 early too. 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.000 I tried to convince the guys to do the broadcast outside. 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.960 Oh he's just ladies and gentleman. 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.520 Is Brian broad It is like, that's that's how he 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.560 looks at You're playing the past challenge. 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:24.200 Yeah, it's your home field advantage. So you wouldn't have 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:24.960 to be out. 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.280 Anything to do with features strength all about Well. 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.920 Let's just say this. I'm guessing your your co hosts 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:32.840 were like, hell. 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:39.920 No, Sam Radio Booth, Yeah, coming this weekend, I said, 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.120 I said, just give me the give me the wireless mike. 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:43.160 I'll stand outside. 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.320 And you would too, I absolutely would. 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:46.640 I would. 0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.360 All right, let's jump back in. We got some questions 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.600 from you guys, really good questions we got today. 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.400 So, by the way, real quick, is today the ninth 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.680 anniversary of dead Bryant the catch? 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:57.600 Okay? 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.920 Because I saw clips of that. We were all standing 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:01.880 on the side slideline. 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.600 We were at lambeau Field and it wasn't a miserable day. 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.760 I was twenty degrees degrees was way. 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.240 I was way over drives and you I watched the 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:11.400 whole game from the sideline. 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.480 I remember that you were the first one to say, Oh, 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.080 he's not gonna Oh, that's not gonna be a catch. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.400 Helmet with a helmet helmet. Because we were all standing, 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.160 I choked helman. I grabbed him like and I I heard. 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.840 Someone say, oh, it's not going to be a catch, 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.440 and I was like, well, because at first I was like, oh, 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.600 my god, that was the greatest catch I've ever seen. 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.840 And then it's like what huh? And then it all 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.600 starts unveiling. 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.200 Only only challenge Mike McCarthy won the whole year. Yeah, 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.400 was that one? The only one? And I remember like 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.880 being bundled up because I watched the whole game from 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.160 the sideline, so I was way too bundled up for 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.239 the game. But like I remember turning the helmet and 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.000 grabbing like his coat like it. 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.880 He goes, oh, that's not going to. 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.720 Be a catch, And I grabbed his lapel and I go, 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:58.440 what are you saying? He goes, it's not gonna be 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:02.200 a catch, dude. I'm like, oh, what did I just do? 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.080 That's Helman though. 0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.600 Helman always will interject what you don't want anybody to 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.759 say at the moment, and it's like, you know he's right, 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.080 but you're like what you have to say? 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.640 It like went and and it it was that uh, 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.480 it was that official guy. It was it was a 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.600 guy with the index card, the official. 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.919 Oh yeah, I know you're talking about. That was the Yeah, 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.080 he was the ref that day as well. 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.439 Yeah, but anyway, so he and like he went back 0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.040 to the spot where the ball was I'll never forget 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.799 that is one of the greatest throws and greatest catch 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.880 because the ball was coming right at us and I 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.200 looked down. I looked up and saw because I saw 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.160 Cole Beasley dragging it. I'm thinking, he's gonna hit Beasley, 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:39.600 and you're just gonna keep going. We're gonna get the 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.640 first down, fourth down, We're gonna keep going, going, going, 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:42.839 and then try and just. 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.399 Bleed this thing. No, Romo, just take a shot. 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.160 Takes the shot. I remember looking at the ball and 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.200 then looking down at Dez and Sam Shields was in 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.760 such bad shape on the on the route and Dez 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.440 went up and he is over the and Sam shield 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.839 is just crumpled, you know, and it's to this day 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.759 it's one of the greatest catchers I've ever seen in 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.360 my life. But yeah, we were all down there on 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:06.040 the field for that. 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.960 And I remember it was after that game. Was in 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:13.160 the locker room. It was the most bar none. It 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.359 was the most dejected locker room I've ever I saw 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.920 in that game. After that game, Yeah, Jason Witten was 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.799 was not happy and he is there was a moment 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:24.080 when he was trying to get through it, and you 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:25.399 got to know in locker rooms. 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:26.080 It's really tight. 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:27.560 Yeah's locker rooms. 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.439 And I got a lot of media and Jason's trying 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.279 to get through and using. Jason is as nice a 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:32.680 guy you ever want to meet, and he's just kind 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.480 of like, excuse me, guys. I kind of thing that 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.920 day is like guys out of the way. Like he 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.560 was very like everybody in that locker room was pissed. 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:44.319 Well, you know why because earlier in the year, we 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.239 went to Seattle, because that game, if you know, you 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.719 win the Green Bay game, you're going to Seattle. We 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.440 went to Seattle and just smashed them, the mark them 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.920 where they couldn't stop. Remember the running game, and it 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.360 was just like it was the Legion of Boom and 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.480 all this that, and and we just went of Seattle 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.960 and just and you're sitting here thinking, like we go 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.040 play at Seattle, We're gonna beat Okay, We're okay with this. 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.200 We could we could beat these guys that that Murray fumbled. 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:10.120 I'll never ye. 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.239 That's what lost the game, Not not the controversial catch 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:18.279 versus non case. It's a lot you had nothing but 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.480 green in front of you, and you let Julius Peppers 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.640 reach out and just knock that ball down. And of 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.680 course considering that Murray had already had fumbles as an 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.400 issue that season, So for me, that's the villain of 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:28.719 that game. 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.319 But had the broken Hanland right then, he had the broken. 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:32.359 Hand at that point. 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.280 Yeah, I thought that was the broken hand situation. 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.319 That ball away, and he liked that, he liked the 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.520 bread loaf that ball. Tuck that ball away, you go down, 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.680 you get that touchdown, and you're up multiple positions, and 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:43.799 that's an entirely different game from there on. I think 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.280 that would have been the one that demoralized them completely 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.960 for the rest of the game, the Packers. But yeah, Rogers, Yeah, 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.680 and with the calf injury, Like if that happen right 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.520 in front of us, I just I'll never. 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.920 I have the mental image. I still see it very clearly. 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.439 I see the ball, I see the ball coming right 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.920 at us, and I remember, like I said, looking at 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.439 Dez and I'm thinking, he's going to get this ball. 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.480 He's going to get this ball, you know, Romo through 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.520 a boy through in a beautiful spot. It was, and 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.480 the official, the official to that side marked it as 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:13.920 a catch. 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:18.080 Right, that gentleman was right. Everybody else was wrong. He 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:18.640 was right. 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.160 Yeah, at the NFL did a job. 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.640 I did a job tough for some revenge. 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.080 Yeah, all right, let's get some person. We got a 0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.520 good No, that's good. We got a question from Jakara Williams. 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.640 He says, do y'all think Fowler needs more playing times? 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:31.440 Heck, yes, I know. 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.720 It's been your guy put him out there I talked about. 0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.960 I think I think he's got this David Irving vibe 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.399 to him. Sixteen plays, three sacks. He's one of those guys. 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:42.360 Yeah, you know David. 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.960 Irving packer game in Atlambo, he played, he made NFC 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.920 Player of the Week and he had he played like 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.160 eighteen plays and it was one of the greatest stat 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:50.959 lines ever seen. 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:52.680 That's what Fowler does. 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.520 You play him and all of a sudden he's he 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.880 knows how to break guys down, he knows how to 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.080 get to the ball, he knows how to work game. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:01.880 Yes, more Fouler, please. 0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:03.399 I agree one hundred percent. 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.400 And I know that Quinn and the Cowboys want to 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.319 try to work in Sam Williams because he also is 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.239 crazy good, also crazy talented. But what Fowler does is 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:17.680 it's a super efficient, it's super efficient, limited snaps, but impact, 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.920 impact snaps when he's out there, and then you look 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.160 at what he did against the Commanders is a perfect example. 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.680 You're not going to see him take thirty thirty snaps 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.280 that game, but when he's out there, he is something 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.279 to be reckoned with. 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.000 He plays, he plays eight snaps and you and you 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.920 watching go the silence. His sleeves are ripped because somebody 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.359 is like trying like hell to keep him from Yeah, 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.719 somebody is trying to keep him from sacking literally eight 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.680 snaps and his sleeves are ripped already, and you're like going, 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.040 that guy's getting somewhere because they're having to rip his 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.719 clothes off him to keep him from getting it. 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.320 Is it a possibility that he's one of those guys 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.480 and we know these guys happen exists, He's one of 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.719 those guys that that's where you're gonna get the most 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:57.080 out of him. 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.200 It's have those limited snaps putting him out there more. 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.799 You may be you may actually that may be more 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.480 than he's really giving great plays with. 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.120 Probably it's possible. 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.000 You'd have to go back and look at his uh, 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.520 his first stint with Coin in Atlanta to see what 0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:12.840 his rep counts are and his production at that point. 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.279 But I mean it's it's always possible that he excels 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:20.000 because he's in a limited capacity. And if that's the case, 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.960 then yeah, keep him in the capacities and dan Quinn 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:23.680 has the formula. 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.040 It's working, but he's you still like this staff a 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:27.400 little bit. 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:29.000 Yeah, this staff knows how to use it. 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.480 Yeah, they needed maybe maybe about just a tad want 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:36.520 to be about six more players, and that's out there 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:37.439 the whole game, but. 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:40.400 Plays might be right. 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.239 They they kind of have these guys that they plug 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.680 him in and we got to get some more questions, 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.279 but they plug him in and they they know for 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.960 four or five plays they've got to do their absolute 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.480 best because somebody else is about to come in. And 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.759 he he fully understands his role and. 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:58.440 Knock on wood Fowler. He's also gotten better with eliminating 0:39:58.480 --> 0:39:59.920 the penalties the mental area. 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:01.280 So yeah, absolutely. 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.080 Jake Row asked the question, what are the odds we 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.440 see Damian Wilson get some time this week or throughout 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:11.080 the postseason, barring injury, just him getting worked in. I 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:14.600 think you're hard pressed to get Damien out there barren injury. 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.440 If these guys are still healthy. 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.640 Uh, and Donald continues to play at his level that 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.000 he's at right now, especially in run support things like that. 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:24.120 I don't I don't see it. 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.520 It's a different conversation with Lyle Collins because maybe you 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.359 activate Lyle and start working in the Hope package if 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.640 you can get past the Packers like we expect that 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:35.720 you should maybe against in the divisional round. But Damian Wilson, 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.800 I really think he's just pure insurance at the position. 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:39.520 Yeah. 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.719 I agree on anything to kick Clark the same on 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.719 the path that he was from the Commander's game. If 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.560 he can, if he could just keep playing like he 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.319 did in the Commander's game, that would be a huge 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.160 plus for this team. 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.360 Question from Albert, he says, it's hunterd Lifty's still in 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.400 the doghouse as far as carries are concerned, And I'll 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.080 actually send the question too. Should he be or should 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.400 the Cowboys kind of restart that because it seemed like 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:01.920 in that game they had a plan that they were 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.399 going to use him and we haven't really seen that since. 0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.440 Should they look back at that and maybe consider using 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:08.680 him in the playoffs a little bit more? 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.200 I think he was in the doghouse, and rightfully so, 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.480 I also think that if he's still in the doghouse 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.239 as we have this conversation, it's time to move on. 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.560 It's time to move on because on that particular in 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.200 that particular game, on that particular drive, he helped you 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:27.240 move the chains on the occasion. And yes, his mental 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.880 error was a big one. Uh and it cost you points. 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.880 It took points off the board. But you have to 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.400 assume that that's not going to be a consistent issue 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.879 with Hunter Lipkey. So I say, going into this game, 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.759 make him, make him another somebody else that the that 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:42.800 the Packers have to defend. 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.480 Yeah, hearr Lipkey has done He's done a nice job 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.359 as a blocker. Oh so keep keep you know, if 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.719 you know he's he's showing he's putting things behind him 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.360 and moving forward. That's unfortunate what happened to him. I 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.399 still hand him the ball. The guy finds a way 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.640 to get he needs one, he gets three. You know, 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:00.839 he's he's that kind of a. 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.840 It was a really good and productive running back and. 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.840 Catches the ball well too. You know, I mean that 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.239 could be an X factor player against a team that 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:09.440 struggles at linebacker. 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.279 You know, It's interesting to me, Brian, you were the 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.400 one that was mentioning this about Chuma Idoga when he 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.320 had that game where he had those mental breakdowns, and 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.160 you were like, coaches just don't like, they'll deal with 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.439 you getting overpowered much more than they will deal with 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.440 the mental mistakes. And it makes me wonder if in 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.040 the same way, after the Chuma Agdoga game, like what 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.080 do we find out a little bit later that hey, 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:32.640 they're going to go. 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:33.840 Out and look at Liol Collins. 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.360 It makes me wonder if if a similar thing with 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.319 lip Key, where it's just kind of like, hey, the 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.560 mental mistakes is what pulled them back, and I don't 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.120 know that they're going to recover right now at a 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.520 time when the stakes are really really high to be 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.879 able to give that to allow him enough times has 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.520 occurred that allows him now that trust to be rebuilt. 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.680 Well, it's also possible that in going against this Packers 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:58.160 run defense, you may not need Hunter Lipkey because you 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.719 should be able to get in every strong yard for 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.359 carry from Tony Pollard and Rico Daldo, and that goes 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.080 to short yarded situations as well. So I don't know 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.960 that this is necessarily a situation in this particular matchup 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.960 where they have to hand the ball off the hunter 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.239 lypken try to test that. But that said again, if 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.680 he's steal in the doghouse, let him out. It's all 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.600 hands are on deck at this point to try all 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.879 of your playmakers. Anyone who can positively affect the game 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:23.480 needs to be given a shot to do so. 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.440 All right, appreciate you guys, Jumps. We're back tomorrow. We're 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.080 gonna wrap this thing up. We'll get you ready for 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:31.000 that final. Our final thoughts on Cowboys versus Packers first 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.399 round the playoffs until tomorrow. For Patrick Walker and Brian 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.120 brought us. I'm Derek Eagleton. 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