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Speaker 7: It is Thursday, January eleventh, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 7: episode number one oh six. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 7: of The Break. We are alive from that WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 7: studios at the stargup. Brian and Patrick here with me.

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Speaker 7: Ambers not in today, but we're going to try to

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get into some.

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Speaker 7: and we'll also get some questions here throughout the show.

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Speaker 7: Patrick is monitoring that thing, so he'll let me know

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Speaker 7: if there's anything interesting that comes through there. I've already

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Speaker 7: got a few questions that I've gotten from some of

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Speaker 7: Some questions from you guys at our panel here can answer.

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Speaker 7: Let's start first with some injury updates. Got Stephan Gilmour,

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Speaker 7: who did not practice was shoulder injury. What are we

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Speaker 8: Spoke with Stefan Gidmore yesterday in the locker room, and

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Speaker 8: he sounds like he's he's definitely going to be a go.

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Speaker 8: His comment was whatever it takes, that's his quote. So

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Speaker 8: he said that he's played through much worse over the

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Speaker 8: course of his illustrious career. He knows exactly what these

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Speaker 8: forward to help him put the Cowboys in this position.

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Speaker 8: So barring a massive setback, I think you see Stefan

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Speaker 8: He rested yesterday, but the expectation is if he isn't

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Speaker 8: complement of offensive lineman there Jonathan Hankins initially pr scats

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Speaker 8: He actually was a limited participant in practice yesterday as

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Speaker 8: The ankle injury that he's been dealing with for weeks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to Gilmore's gonna wear a harness on

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Speaker 7: How cancarn of you guys that Tyler Smith, although he

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Speaker 3: It's it's I think it's I would say this, it

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's got to make you feel good knowing that

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Speaker 9: But TJ. Bass he's a gamer.

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Speaker 8: He's been in there more than once this season and

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Speaker 7: Dillon popped up on the injury report for the Packers.

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Speaker 7: He did not practice yesterday. How much would that be

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Speaker 3: I think they're a different football team. You could watch

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Speaker 8: And Aaron Jones definitely he's the one you want to

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Speaker 8: So I mean, this is a guy who rushed for

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Speaker 9: So I mean, is he Aaron Jones? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 8: But if he's not able to go, if he's hobbled

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the way I look at it is it's more

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Speaker 2: They want that balance between the two.

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Speaker 7: jump into the Green Bay Defense. Brian, A big picture.

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Speaker 7: Tell me what this defense does best and where they

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Speaker 3: I think they're really the best thing they do is

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Speaker 3: look at it's a three four front. It plays a

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Speaker 5: So but the.

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Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, he perfectly noted there. When it comes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna hunt matchups is what they're going to

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Speaker 3: I was talking to an advanced scout for another team

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Speaker 3: I go, I'm watching the tape and I think Rashawn

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Speaker 5: And this guy said, absolutely is.

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Speaker 3: He says, you got to worry about him and Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 3: But this week, We've said it in the weeks past,

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Speaker 8: And because those guys, Clark and Gary are so good

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Speaker 8: And that presents a defensive front that is good at

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Speaker 7: One of the interesting things about this defense, and you've

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Speaker 2: In seventeen games. They've done it twice.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know if they were at full capacity

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield tore him up, Yeah, you know, throwing the football.

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Speaker 5: He's from he's from Charlotte and he thought.

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Speaker 3: You know what, he just decided I'm going He thought

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Speaker 5: But he wasn't, and so they suspended him.

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Speaker 3: And what happened when you watched, when you watch the

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Speaker 5: Bump, boom, boom.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of times they sacked him. They knocked

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Speaker 5: You at running back.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a week where you need to

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Speaker 5: They just these guys aren't very good cover guys.

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Speaker 3: I can say Walker can blitz, that's the one thing.

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Speaker 7: Is this a game where maybe the Calways look at

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Speaker 5: It very well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you know, and that's that You're absolutely right

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Speaker 3: the coverage as well, and take advantage of that.

440
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Speaker 8: Their personnel doesn't match up will against what the Cowboys present.

441
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Speaker 8: Their scheme secondary was doesn't match up will with what

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys present. And this is one reason why a

443
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Speaker 8: couple of days ago, IAD named Jake Ferguson as the

444
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Speaker 8: possible X factor for the same reason Brian's saying their linebackers.

445
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Speaker 9: Do not cover will.

446
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Speaker 8: They don't want cover, they want to go after and

447
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Speaker 8: get the quarterback. Well, the problem with that against an

448
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Speaker 8: offense lad by Dak Prescott. Is Dak Prescott excels against

449
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Speaker 8: the blitz. So you're kind of damned if you do.

450
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Speaker 8: Damned if you don't. If you drop back in coverage

451
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Speaker 8: and you're one of the Packers linebackers, you don't cover, well,

452
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Speaker 8: he's got you. Okay, you blitz him, He's got you.

453
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Speaker 8: And you just took someone out of coverage, which opens

454
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Speaker 8: up the middle of the field for slamp pat inside

455
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Speaker 8: slants and Jake Ferguson and you know, like you said,

456
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Speaker 8: maybe run out of a twelve. But they just it's

457
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Speaker 8: a very very bad matchup for this Packers secondary.

458
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Speaker 9: Very bad.

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Speaker 7: Now, let's talk about the flip side of that. We

460
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Speaker 7: talked about what they do well and what they don't

461
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Speaker 7: do so well. Appears to be their rush defense. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 7: right now, they are ranked twenty eighth in the NFL.

463
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Speaker 7: They have allowed a two hundred yard day rushing four

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Speaker 7: times this season.

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Speaker 2: That is a lot.

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Speaker 7: But here's the interesting part. Over the last four games,

467
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Speaker 7: they haven't alloted one hundred yards to a team. That

468
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Speaker 7: would be Tampa Bay at Carolina at Minnesota Chicago.

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Speaker 2: We just talked about the fact.

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Speaker 5: That same team we worked for here, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of a little bit of both.

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Speaker 7: My question is, do you think that these last four

473
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Speaker 7: games indicate that maybe they have solved their rushing defense

474
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Speaker 7: type issues or do you think it was just the

475
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Speaker 7: level of competition that they were playing and maybe that's

476
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Speaker 7: why those numbers weren't think.

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Speaker 3: I think they are who they are, and I think

478
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys are who they are as well. I mean

479
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Speaker 3: there's there's they're capable of times playing. They're really similar

480
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Speaker 3: if you look at again, if you go in to

481
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Speaker 3: look at metrics for the two, they're both kind of

482
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Speaker 3: mid pack defenses when are mid pack run defenses. But

483
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Speaker 3: you know they've given up the fifth most yards you

484
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Speaker 3: mentioned all those two hundred yard rushers. You know, you

485
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Speaker 3: watch when people run the ball at them. They don't

486
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Speaker 3: get off blocks. They really really don't. And that's it,

487
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Speaker 3: and it's a common it's a common theme. And they

488
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Speaker 3: don't tackle particularly well in the secondary when they have

489
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Speaker 3: to when they and that happens, so.

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Speaker 5: They give up some big plays that way.

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Speaker 3: But I think that if I wish I had confidence

492
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Speaker 3: in Dallas's running game, I really do. I wish I

493
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Speaker 3: had the confidence to say, yeah, Dallas is going to

494
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Speaker 3: just line up in the gonna run the football, and

495
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Speaker 3: they're gonna show balance here and they're gonna I think

496
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Speaker 3: Mike's gonna try. I think he's absolutely gonna try. Why not,

497
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Speaker 3: you know, until they prove that you can stop them.

498
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Speaker 3: But a lot of it has to do with I

499
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Speaker 3: just think that that when you look at how they play,

500
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Speaker 3: they they don't tackle particularly well, like I said, in

501
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Speaker 3: the secondary, and they don't and they get they get blocked,

502
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Speaker 3: hats on, hats on that front seven when people run

503
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Speaker 3: the ball at them, and that's a that's a problem

504
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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 8: The funny thing about it is is that the narrative

506
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Speaker 8: is that the Cowboys run defense is poor. And it's

507
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Speaker 8: not poor. You would like it to be more consistent,

508
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Speaker 8: but it's not poor. Packers run defense is poor. And

509
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Speaker 8: I mean, for example, because I was breaking it down

510
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Speaker 8: for Science Lab, which dropped this morning shameless plug. They

511
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Speaker 8: allow They have allowed fifty seven runs of ten plus

512
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Speaker 8: yards this season. They're averaging one hundred twenty eight rushing

513
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Speaker 8: yards per game four point four and the list goes

514
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Speaker 8: on and on. They have a tough percentage of only

515
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Speaker 8: nineteen percent. They do not defend the run well favorable

516
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Speaker 8: matchup for a guy like Tony Pollard and Rico Dowd

517
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Speaker 8: or potentially to get going. And if they can get going,

518
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Speaker 8: then that only helps, you know, potentially open up the

519
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Speaker 8: passing game more.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the question.

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Speaker 7: When you have a situation like this where you're facing

522
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Speaker 7: a team that where their weakness is is where you

523
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Speaker 7: would say, of all the things the Cowboys do well

524
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Speaker 7: on offense, it's also matches up with where your weakness.

525
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Speaker 2: Probably is as well.

526
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Speaker 7: Do you force the issue and say this is a

527
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Speaker 7: game where we get right and we get our running

528
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Speaker 7: game going, or do you just say, hey, we're going

529
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Speaker 7: at your strength with our strength and we think we're

530
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Speaker 7: better than you.

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Speaker 8: I view it as their secondary is outside of hire Alexander,

532
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Speaker 8: outside of him, that secondary can be torched.

533
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Speaker 9: It can be torched.

534
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Speaker 8: We just finished talking about how the linebackers are pooring

535
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Speaker 8: coverage outside of Alexander, who himself, I know he's missed

536
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 8: some games so he doesn't have any interceptions.

537
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Speaker 9: They don't take the ball away well.

538
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Speaker 8: In there, I say you are who you are and

539
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Speaker 8: that you are an explosive passing attack, and you are

540
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Speaker 8: more explosive in that aspect. When you're at home home,

541
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Speaker 8: and you're at home, by the way, so take advantage

542
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Speaker 8: of a secondary that will give up chunk yardage and

543
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Speaker 8: then you can play You can use that to play

544
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Speaker 8: into the fact that they can't defend the run either.

545
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Speaker 8: So it's still a game where I say, you attack

546
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Speaker 8: the ball, you attack them in the air, try to

547
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Speaker 8: get up on a fast start, make it a two

548
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Speaker 8: possession game, and then you have the comfort level knowing that, hey,

549
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Speaker 8: Tony Pollin and Rico Dwell could probably sought this game

550
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Speaker 8: away over the course of the next two quarters three quarters.

551
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Speaker 8: However the else it needs to be. But I would

552
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Speaker 8: still attack with the pass first.

553
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Patrick there. The thing that's interesting

554
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Speaker 3: to me is which team is going to be able

555
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Speaker 3: to run the ball the best, you know, because that

556
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Speaker 3: is the thing that both teams have to fear. Is

557
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Speaker 3: though it turns into you're letting the other team rush

558
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Speaker 3: the passer, that that clearly is the Cowboys strength rushing

559
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Speaker 3: the passer, especially at home. The Packers have got to hope, like, hey,

560
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Speaker 3: our best shot of winning this thing is finding a

561
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Speaker 3: way not to let Dak Prescott beat us, because if

562
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Speaker 3: we can't get to him like Patrick talking about he'll

563
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Speaker 3: carve that secondary up.

564
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Speaker 5: So Mike, Mike has done a pretty good job.

565
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Speaker 3: I love you know, the hell if they would have

566
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Speaker 3: run the ball more in the second half of the

567
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Speaker 3: game last year they played, you know, they would have

568
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Speaker 3: won this game. I think that's what I think, that's

569
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Speaker 3: what kind of got Mike soured on m kellen Moore

570
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Speaker 3: a little bit. You know that, you know, dam we're

571
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Speaker 3: up two scorers and we're sitting there throwing the football.

572
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Speaker 3: But to Patrick's point, that's what you do. Get up

573
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Speaker 3: and then don't go into a shell, but find a mix.

574
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Speaker 3: You know, if you're hey, first down throw, second down runs,

575
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Speaker 3: you know, just kind of just kind of go.

576
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Speaker 5: Back and forth with that.

577
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Speaker 3: Don't just sload up on a bunch of like you

578
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Speaker 3: did against Detroit first down runs and all of a

579
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: sudden you're sitting in second in eight all day. Because

580
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Speaker 3: that that could be that could be a problem for

581
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Speaker 3: the for the Cowboys.

582
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Speaker 8: Also a great opportunity for the Cowboys. You know, once

583
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 8: they get into the red zone. Packer's red zone defense,

584
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Speaker 8: as far as the run goos, it's it's not great.

585
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Speaker 8: I mean, they've allowed five more touchdowns than the Cowboys

586
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Speaker 8: have on only five more attempts, so you know they

587
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 8: don't clamp down. Let the Cowboys do. So the Cowboys

588
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 8: run defense between the twenties. It can be solid, but

589
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 8: they'll allow a chunk play here and there. But when

590
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 8: they get you know, go to go packages, they clamp

591
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Speaker 8: When the Packers getting the gold to go packages, it's

592
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Speaker 8: basically a turnstyle, right. So it's a good opportunity for

593
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Speaker 8: the Cowboys to help build Tony Rico and maybe even

594
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Speaker 8: one hundred Lipkey's confidence when they get down.

595
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Speaker 2: There at the end of the day.

596
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Speaker 7: I don't think the Cowboys have to have a crazy

597
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 7: great rushing data when what I think they should have though,

598
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Speaker 7: is I want to look at the end of the

599
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Speaker 7: day and see are your yards per carry four and

600
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Speaker 7: a half?

601
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Speaker 2: If you get up to five.

602
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Speaker 7: I think that's what you really care more about is

603
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Speaker 7: when they want to run the ball, are they getting

604
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Speaker 7: success out of it. You don't have to change what

605
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 7: you do offensively because I think right now you do

606
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Speaker 7: what got to hear, which is throw the ball, put

607
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 7: the ball in dack' say in and let him work.

608
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Speaker 7: But I do think if your running game can give

609
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Speaker 7: you something, I think that help.

610
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Speaker 3: Is my pro personal friend who I was talking with

611
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Speaker 3: on the way. He's like, listen, Green Bay's got a

612
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: good young team. He goes, But that's the problem.

613
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Speaker 5: They're young.

614
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Speaker 3: He goes, I don't think they're ready for the stage

615
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Speaker 3: about to play on now.

616
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Speaker 5: And we'll see. But that's that's that was his opinion.

617
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Speaker 5: He goes.

618
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Speaker 3: They they've got players that you absolutely have to be

619
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Speaker 3: concerned about. He goes, I think the quarterback is going

620
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: to be fine one day. He says, but there is

621
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Speaker 3: a really really young team, and he goes, you just

622
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: he goes, he goes.

623
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Speaker 5: I watch your team a lot.

624
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Speaker 3: He goes, You guys got veteran players, you got playmakers.

625
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: You make it tough on you people, and so by

626
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: all means, though this is a game you should win.

627
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

628
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Speaker 7: And that's the interesting thing about young teams. You gotta

629
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Speaker 7: put them where got You let them start thinking they

630
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 7: got a shot. You let them start thinking they got

631
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 7: a shot, and they're like, we got a shot, And

632
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 7: young young people.

633
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Speaker 2: Don't know what they don't know?

634
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Speaker 13: Right.

635
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Speaker 8: I put that exact question to Jordan Lewis in the

636
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 8: locker room yesterday. I said, you know, Jordans, you guys

637
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 8: have the advantage of being the veterans coming into this.

638
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 8: You've got a playoff experience, you know, the magnitude of

639
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 8: the game, So advantage there as far as football IQ

640
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 8: is concerned. However, when you're playing a group of young

641
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 8: guys who don't necessarily grasp how big the stage is,

642
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 8: they get to play more loosely. Isn't that kind of

643
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 8: a challenge in and of itself? He was like, absolute,

644
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 8: those guys are gonna go out there, play fast, play

645
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 8: loose because they know it's a playoff game, but they

646
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 8: don't necessarily feel it like a veteran.

647
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing house money.

648
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 9: Yeah exactly.

649
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 7: And you know the veterans, especially those guys that really

650
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 7: long too, like how many more chances am I going

651
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 7: to get this? So it really becomes a lot more

652
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 7: pressure than when you're in your first, second, third year

653
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 7: in the NFL and you're just like, hey, we're here already,

654
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 7: all right, let's see what we can do.

655
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Speaker 3: You know, I think I saw I saw a graphic.

656
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Speaker 3: I think I had this right. Half their team is

657
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Speaker 3: gone from last year when this to these two teams met. Yeah, half,

658
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: well their team is gone. That's crazy, And I mean,

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Speaker 8: And for to that point, there are a lot of

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Speaker 7: Welcome Back, final segment of the break Life in SWBC

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Speaker 2: Have you guys looked at the weather report for Sunday?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, looks a little interesting there, dune it It's gonna

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Speaker 14: be interesting. I might I might be calling on you, Brian,

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Speaker 14: because I know you look at those things as a challenge.

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Speaker 14: So may be like, hey, Brian, can you come out

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know I'm gonna be like, Brian, I need

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Speaker 2: you to come get me cause I don't want to get.

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Speaker 11: Out in that.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but the problem is, though I have to

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Speaker 5: be at the game three hours.

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Speaker 2: I'll go with you with me. I go three hours

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Speaker 2: early too.

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Speaker 5: I tried to convince the guys to do the broadcast outside.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's just ladies and gentleman.

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Speaker 7: Is Brian broad It is like, that's that's how he

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Speaker 7: looks at You're playing the past challenge.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's your home field advantage. So you wouldn't have

742
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Speaker 9: to be out.

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Speaker 5: Anything to do with features strength all about Well.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say this. I'm guessing your your co hosts

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Speaker 2: were like, hell.

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Speaker 3: No, Sam Radio Booth, Yeah, coming this weekend, I said,

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Speaker 3: I said, just give me the give me the wireless mike.

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Speaker 5: I'll stand outside.

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Speaker 2: And you would too, I absolutely would.

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Speaker 5: I would.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump back in. We got some questions

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Speaker 2: from you guys, really good questions we got today.

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Speaker 3: So, by the way, real quick, is today the ninth

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Speaker 3: anniversary of dead Bryant the catch?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Because I saw clips of that. We were all standing

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Speaker 3: on the side slideline.

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Speaker 5: We were at lambeau Field and it wasn't a miserable day.

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Speaker 2: I was twenty degrees degrees was way.

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Speaker 3: I was way over drives and you I watched the

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Speaker 3: whole game from the sideline.

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Speaker 7: I remember that you were the first one to say, Oh,

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Speaker 7: he's not gonna Oh, that's not gonna be a catch.

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Speaker 5: Helmet with a helmet helmet. Because we were all standing,

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Speaker 5: I choked helman. I grabbed him like and I I heard.

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Speaker 7: Someone say, oh, it's not going to be a catch,

767
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Speaker 7: and I was like, well, because at first I was like, oh,

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Speaker 7: my god, that was the greatest catch I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: And then it's like what huh? And then it all

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Speaker 2: starts unveiling.

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Speaker 3: Only only challenge Mike McCarthy won the whole year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: was that one? The only one? And I remember like

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Speaker 3: being bundled up because I watched the whole game from

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Speaker 3: the sideline, so I was way too bundled up for

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Speaker 3: the game. But like I remember turning the helmet and

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Speaker 3: grabbing like his coat like it.

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Speaker 5: He goes, oh, that's not going to.

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Speaker 15: Be a catch, And I grabbed his lapel and I go,

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Speaker 15: what are you saying? He goes, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 15: a catch, dude. I'm like, oh, what did I just do?

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Speaker 2: That's Helman though.

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Speaker 7: Helman always will interject what you don't want anybody to

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Speaker 7: say at the moment, and it's like, you know he's right,

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Speaker 7: but you're like what you have to say?

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Speaker 3: It like went and and it it was that uh,

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Speaker 3: it was that official guy. It was it was a

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Speaker 3: guy with the index card, the official.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I know you're talking about. That was the Yeah,

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Speaker 7: he was the ref that day as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, so he and like he went back

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Speaker 3: to the spot where the ball was I'll never forget

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Speaker 3: that is one of the greatest throws and greatest catch

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Speaker 3: because the ball was coming right at us and I

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Speaker 3: looked down. I looked up and saw because I saw

795
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Speaker 3: Cole Beasley dragging it. I'm thinking, he's gonna hit Beasley,

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Speaker 3: and you're just gonna keep going. We're gonna get the

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Speaker 3: first down, fourth down, We're gonna keep going, going, going,

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Speaker 3: and then try and just.

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Speaker 5: Bleed this thing. No, Romo, just take a shot.

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Speaker 3: Takes the shot. I remember looking at the ball and

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Speaker 3: then looking down at Dez and Sam Shields was in

802
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Speaker 3: such bad shape on the on the route and Dez

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Speaker 3: went up and he is over the and Sam shield

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Speaker 3: is just crumpled, you know, and it's to this day

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Speaker 3: it's one of the greatest catchers I've ever seen in

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Speaker 3: my life. But yeah, we were all down there on

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Speaker 3: the field for that.

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Speaker 7: And I remember it was after that game. Was in

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Speaker 7: the locker room. It was the most bar none. It

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Speaker 7: was the most dejected locker room I've ever I saw

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Speaker 7: in that game. After that game, Yeah, Jason Witten was

812
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Speaker 7: was not happy and he is there was a moment

813
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Speaker 7: when he was trying to get through it, and you

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Speaker 7: got to know in locker rooms.

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Speaker 2: It's really tight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah's locker rooms.

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Speaker 7: And I got a lot of media and Jason's trying

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Speaker 7: to get through and using. Jason is as nice a

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Speaker 7: guy you ever want to meet, and he's just kind

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Speaker 7: of like, excuse me, guys. I kind of thing that

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Speaker 7: day is like guys out of the way. Like he

822
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Speaker 7: was very like everybody in that locker room was pissed.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know why because earlier in the year, we

824
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Speaker 3: went to Seattle, because that game, if you know, you

825
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Speaker 3: win the Green Bay game, you're going to Seattle. We

826
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Speaker 3: went to Seattle and just smashed them, the mark them

827
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Speaker 3: where they couldn't stop. Remember the running game, and it

828
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Speaker 3: was just like it was the Legion of Boom and

829
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Speaker 3: all this that, and and we just went of Seattle

830
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Speaker 3: and just and you're sitting here thinking, like we go

831
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Speaker 3: play at Seattle, We're gonna beat Okay, We're okay with this.

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Speaker 5: We could we could beat these guys that that Murray fumbled.

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Speaker 2: I'll never ye.

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Speaker 8: That's what lost the game, Not not the controversial catch

835
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Speaker 8: versus non case. It's a lot you had nothing but

836
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Speaker 8: green in front of you, and you let Julius Peppers

837
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Speaker 8: reach out and just knock that ball down. And of

838
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Speaker 8: course considering that Murray had already had fumbles as an

839
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Speaker 8: issue that season, So for me, that's the villain of

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Speaker 8: that game.

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Speaker 5: But had the broken Hanland right then, he had the broken.

842
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: Hand at that point.

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00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was the broken hand situation.

844
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Speaker 8: That ball away, and he liked that, he liked the

845
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 8: bread loaf that ball. Tuck that ball away, you go down,

846
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 8: you get that touchdown, and you're up multiple positions, and

847
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 8: that's an entirely different game from there on. I think

848
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 8: that would have been the one that demoralized them completely

849
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 8: for the rest of the game, the Packers. But yeah, Rogers, Yeah,

850
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 8: and with the calf injury, Like if that happen right

851
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 8: in front of us, I just I'll never.

852
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: I have the mental image. I still see it very clearly.

853
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 3: I see the ball, I see the ball coming right

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00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: at us, and I remember, like I said, looking at

855
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 3: Dez and I'm thinking, he's going to get this ball.

856
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: He's going to get this ball, you know, Romo through

857
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: a boy through in a beautiful spot. It was, and

858
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: the official, the official to that side marked it as

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Speaker 3: a catch.

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Speaker 5: Right, that gentleman was right. Everybody else was wrong. He

861
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Speaker 5: was right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the NFL did a job.

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Speaker 9: I did a job tough for some revenge.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, let's get some person. We got a

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Speaker 7: good No, that's good. We got a question from Jakara Williams.

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Speaker 7: He says, do y'all think Fowler needs more playing times?

867
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Speaker 5: Heck, yes, I know.

868
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: It's been your guy put him out there I talked about.

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Speaker 3: I think I think he's got this David Irving vibe

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Speaker 3: to him. Sixteen plays, three sacks. He's one of those guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know David.

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Speaker 3: Irving packer game in Atlambo, he played, he made NFC

873
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Speaker 3: Player of the Week and he had he played like

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Speaker 3: eighteen plays and it was one of the greatest stat

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Speaker 3: lines ever seen.

876
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: That's what Fowler does.

877
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: You play him and all of a sudden he's he

878
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: knows how to break guys down, he knows how to

879
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: get to the ball, he knows how to work game.

880
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: Yes, more Fouler, please.

881
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 9: I agree one hundred percent.

882
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 8: And I know that Quinn and the Cowboys want to

883
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 8: try to work in Sam Williams because he also is

884
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 8: crazy good, also crazy talented. But what Fowler does is

885
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 8: it's a super efficient, it's super efficient, limited snaps, but impact,

886
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 8: impact snaps when he's out there, and then you look

887
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 8: at what he did against the Commanders is a perfect example.

888
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 8: You're not going to see him take thirty thirty snaps

889
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 8: that game, but when he's out there, he is something

890
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 8: to be reckoned with.

891
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: He plays, he plays eight snaps and you and you

892
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: watching go the silence. His sleeves are ripped because somebody

893
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: is like trying like hell to keep him from Yeah,

894
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: somebody is trying to keep him from sacking literally eight

895
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: snaps and his sleeves are ripped already, and you're like going,

896
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: that guy's getting somewhere because they're having to rip his

897
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: clothes off him to keep him from getting it.

898
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 7: Is it a possibility that he's one of those guys

899
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 7: and we know these guys happen exists, He's one of

900
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 7: those guys that that's where you're gonna get the most

901
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 7: out of him.

902
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: It's have those limited snaps putting him out there more.

903
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 7: You may be you may actually that may be more

904
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 7: than he's really giving great plays with.

905
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 9: Probably it's possible.

906
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 8: You'd have to go back and look at his uh,

907
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 8: his first stint with Coin in Atlanta to see what

908
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 8: his rep counts are and his production at that point.

909
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 8: But I mean it's it's always possible that he excels

910
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 8: because he's in a limited capacity. And if that's the case,

911
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 8: then yeah, keep him in the capacities and dan Quinn

912
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 8: has the formula.

913
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 9: It's working, but he's you still like this staff a

914
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 9: little bit.

915
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, this staff knows how to use it.

916
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they needed maybe maybe about just a tad want

917
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: to be about six more players, and that's out there

918
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 3: the whole game, but.

919
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 5: Plays might be right.

920
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: They they kind of have these guys that they plug

921
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: him in and we got to get some more questions,

922
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: but they plug him in and they they know for

923
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: four or five plays they've got to do their absolute

924
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: best because somebody else is about to come in. And

925
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: he he fully understands his role and.

926
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 8: Knock on wood Fowler. He's also gotten better with eliminating

927
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 8: the penalties the mental area.

928
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 9: So yeah, absolutely.

929
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 7: Jake Row asked the question, what are the odds we

930
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 7: see Damian Wilson get some time this week or throughout

931
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 7: the postseason, barring injury, just him getting worked in. I

932
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 7: think you're hard pressed to get Damien out there barren injury.

933
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 9: If these guys are still healthy.

934
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 8: Uh, and Donald continues to play at his level that

935
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 8: he's at right now, especially in run support things like that.

936
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 9: I don't I don't see it.

937
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 8: It's a different conversation with Lyle Collins because maybe you

938
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 8: activate Lyle and start working in the Hope package if

939
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 8: you can get past the Packers like we expect that

940
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 8: you should maybe against in the divisional round. But Damian Wilson,

941
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 8: I really think he's just pure insurance at the position.

942
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

943
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: I agree on anything to kick Clark the same on

944
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: the path that he was from the Commander's game. If

945
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: he can, if he could just keep playing like he

946
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: did in the Commander's game, that would be a huge

947
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: plus for this team.

948
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 7: Question from Albert, he says, it's hunterd Lifty's still in

949
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 7: the doghouse as far as carries are concerned, And I'll

950
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 7: actually send the question too. Should he be or should

951
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 7: the Cowboys kind of restart that because it seemed like

952
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 7: in that game they had a plan that they were

953
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 7: going to use him and we haven't really seen that since.

954
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 7: Should they look back at that and maybe consider using

955
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: him in the playoffs a little bit more?

956
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 8: I think he was in the doghouse, and rightfully so,

957
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 8: I also think that if he's still in the doghouse

958
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 8: as we have this conversation, it's time to move on.

959
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 8: It's time to move on because on that particular in

960
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 8: that particular game, on that particular drive, he helped you

961
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 8: move the chains on the occasion. And yes, his mental

962
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 8: error was a big one. Uh and it cost you points.

963
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 8: It took points off the board. But you have to

964
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 8: assume that that's not going to be a consistent issue

965
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 8: with Hunter Lipkey. So I say, going into this game,

966
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 8: make him, make him another somebody else that the that

967
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 8: the Packers have to defend.

968
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, hearr Lipkey has done He's done a nice job

969
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: as a blocker. Oh so keep keep you know, if

970
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: you know he's he's showing he's putting things behind him

971
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: and moving forward. That's unfortunate what happened to him. I

972
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: still hand him the ball. The guy finds a way

973
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: to get he needs one, he gets three. You know,

974
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: he's he's that kind of a.

975
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: It was a really good and productive running back and.

976
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: Catches the ball well too. You know, I mean that

977
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: could be an X factor player against a team that

978
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: struggles at linebacker.

979
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Speaker 7: You know, It's interesting to me, Brian, you were the

980
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 7: one that was mentioning this about Chuma Idoga when he

981
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 7: had that game where he had those mental breakdowns, and

982
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 7: you were like, coaches just don't like, they'll deal with

983
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 7: you getting overpowered much more than they will deal with

984
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 7: the mental mistakes. And it makes me wonder if in

985
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 7: the same way, after the Chuma Agdoga game, like what

986
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 7: do we find out a little bit later that hey,

987
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 7: they're going to go.

988
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: Out and look at Liol Collins.

989
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 7: It makes me wonder if if a similar thing with

990
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 7: lip Key, where it's just kind of like, hey, the

991
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 7: mental mistakes is what pulled them back, and I don't

992
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 7: know that they're going to recover right now at a

993
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 7: time when the stakes are really really high to be

994
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 7: able to give that to allow him enough times has

995
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 7: occurred that allows him now that trust to be rebuilt.

996
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: Well, it's also possible that in going against this Packers

997
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 8: run defense, you may not need Hunter Lipkey because you

998
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 8: should be able to get in every strong yard for

999
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 8: carry from Tony Pollard and Rico Daldo, and that goes

1000
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 8: to short yarded situations as well. So I don't know

1001
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 8: that this is necessarily a situation in this particular matchup

1002
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 8: where they have to hand the ball off the hunter

1003
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 8: lypken try to test that. But that said again, if

1004
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 8: he's steal in the doghouse, let him out. It's all

1005
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 8: hands are on deck at this point to try all

1006
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 8: of your playmakers. Anyone who can positively affect the game

1007
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 8: needs to be given a shot to do so.

1008
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 7: All right, appreciate you guys, Jumps. We're back tomorrow. We're

1009
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Speaker 7: gonna wrap this thing up. We'll get you ready for

1010
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 7: that final. Our final thoughts on Cowboys versus Packers first

1011
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 7: round the playoffs until tomorrow. For Patrick Walker and Brian

1012
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