Speaker 1: Here we go. Everybody read it. Bring us in, Mark,
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Speaker 1: Vanessa and Jared and I heart radio podcast. Hello everyone,
Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in on another episode of help
Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating. I'm Dean Anglert joining studio by Jared,
Speaker 1: Mark Easton and Vanessa on the phone, going on Happy
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Speaker 1: you don't care about women's rights, don't vot, or like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you don't care about the climate, don't vote. I
Speaker 1: know Leo made a video this year as well. He's like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the biggest election of our lifetimes. And that's
Speaker 1: the case. It's true. Jared just told me who was
Speaker 1: voting for um before jumping on, And I mean, while
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it, I appreciate his right to
Speaker 1: get to the polls and vote. So I'm voting for Easton. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: Thank you. I really need this right now, exactly. Um,
Speaker 1: I wish Canadian politics with this interesting. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think you do. Have you seen Trudeau's socks? I really
Speaker 1: don't think you want that for yourself. Um. We have
Speaker 1: a topical episode today. We're basically gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: current events. And when I say current events, aside for voting,
Speaker 1: I basically mean celebrity couples. Yeah. I think we should
Speaker 1: start off with Bachelor Nation news. This past week, a
Speaker 1: really tough breakup happened between a very two wonderful people,
Speaker 1: Caitlin and Sean. They got engaged back in two thousand fifteen.
Speaker 1: I think of season eleven of the Bachelorette who's my season.
Speaker 1: Sean ended up winning. They've been engaged for about three
Speaker 1: years and they finally call it quits, which is really
Speaker 1: really crappy. It's just hard seeing a break up anytime.
Speaker 1: Anytime there's a breakup, it's really sad. But I think
Speaker 1: within the public eye and Caitlyn and Sean, I think
Speaker 1: we're a bachelor couple that we can all agree everybody
Speaker 1: kind of idolized a little bit and looked up to.
Speaker 1: For me personally, anytime somebody asked me about the bachelor
Speaker 1: experience and like can it work? Is it real? I
Speaker 1: would point to different couples. In the first couple I
Speaker 1: always point to would be like Caitlyn Sehn. Those two
Speaker 1: are very much in love and very happy. So it's
Speaker 1: definitely a sad day. Well, this is an interesting at
Speaker 1: least tie in that we all have together because you
Speaker 1: were on Caitlyn season, Vanessa, you and Caitlin are friends,
Speaker 1: and I've never been either of them, so I can
Speaker 1: come into this situation on bias and give my opinions
Speaker 1: on what idis But like, i'd love to hear your like, Vanessa,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the whole Caitlyn sewn break up.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to talk about this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff just because I want to respect their privacy
Speaker 1: and I know how hard it is to go through
Speaker 1: a public breakup like that. I mean, mine is on
Speaker 1: a different level because Nick and I were engaged for
Speaker 1: under a year and they've been together for three years,
Speaker 1: so of course the pressure from I guess fast or
Speaker 1: nation and people who have known them naturally the next
Speaker 1: step was for them to get married at least, and
Speaker 1: everyone dies, but you never know what happens behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: and so for me, it's hard to hear people's comments
Speaker 1: on well, Caitlyn wanted to be famous and he wants
Speaker 1: to settle down. It's like stopa with the rumors that
Speaker 1: you think is actually happening, because it's mostly all both
Speaker 1: and you don't actually know the truth. So um, again,
Speaker 1: it's it's their story to tell and them. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into it. But Caitlin is a friend
Speaker 1: of mine, and for some people it might sound weird
Speaker 1: because Caitlyn and I did save the save guy. Um,
Speaker 1: but m an amazing person and has an amazing heart,
Speaker 1: and I only with the most greatest things for her
Speaker 1: in her future. And in her love life and and
Speaker 1: all of that. But um, listen, I think what ends
Speaker 1: up happening is people just you know, sometimes people can
Speaker 1: just fall apart, and relationships take a lot of work,
Speaker 1: and especially coming out of the franchise, it's I guess
Speaker 1: if I'm going to speak on my behalf, Like for
Speaker 1: Nick and I, it wasn't it was an engagement. Did
Speaker 1: it feel like an engagement. No, it felt like two
Speaker 1: people getting to know each other in a very unrealistic
Speaker 1: world living in the real world. So it was hard
Speaker 1: sometimes to compartmentalize, like, Okay, we're engaged, but we're also
Speaker 1: like trying to figure things out and you know. Um,
Speaker 1: so I think it was a smart move for them
Speaker 1: to figure out what they wanted and before moving into
Speaker 1: bigger things like getting married and then not ending up together. So, um,
Speaker 1: it does break my heart because I know how much
Speaker 1: they do love each other, and it breaks my heart
Speaker 1: seeing two amazing people not being together. And um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's really sad because just because they broke
Speaker 1: up doesn't mean that they weren't in love. They were
Speaker 1: madly in love. Vanessa. You saw it. I saw it,
Speaker 1: And it's that's the hard part because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, like you said, state their own opinions
Speaker 1: and judgments on the situation even though they don't know it,
Speaker 1: and they immediately go to, oh, they were just in
Speaker 1: it for fame. I knew they'd break up. I knew
Speaker 1: they'd never last, and it's like, well, I hate to
Speaker 1: break it to you, but that was a very real
Speaker 1: relationship and they're very much and while it ended, that
Speaker 1: doesn't make it any less um real, um, And that's
Speaker 1: why it's sad. And Vanessa brought up an interesting point
Speaker 1: where you talked about how you didn't feel like you're
Speaker 1: engaged to Nick because it felt like you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: everything is kind of crazy in that world and it's
Speaker 1: very overwhelming. But I think even Sean said this after
Speaker 1: we left Caitlin season, where he said, you know, I
Speaker 1: fell in love with her on the show, but we
Speaker 1: really didn't start dating until after the show. And I
Speaker 1: think that happens within a lot of couples, and so um,
Speaker 1: I agree with your point on that one. But Dean,
Speaker 1: as an outside perspective, not knowing Caitlin nor show, I
Speaker 1: don't know either of them, never met either of them.
Speaker 1: I've heard incredible things about Caitlin. Um, she's obviously university liked.
Speaker 1: It seems like in the Bachelor franchise of yet to
Speaker 1: come across anyone that has any ill fate or words
Speaker 1: to say about either of them, Um, just Caitlyn. I
Speaker 1: guess it's just more of the uh well known. But
Speaker 1: between the two of them and people that say that
Speaker 1: they were in it for fame, I think is a
Speaker 1: little ridiculous because if they were in it for fame
Speaker 1: and they didn't actually love each other, they probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have let the relationship in a lot as long as
Speaker 1: three years. I will say that they had like. From
Speaker 1: what I've read and what I've I've kind of gathered
Speaker 1: in is that Sean never wanted to get married in
Speaker 1: the first place. He loved Caitlin but never wanted to
Speaker 1: get married, and Caitlin wanted to get married. So obviously
Speaker 1: we don't know the details of why they split. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that was a point of contention in their relationship
Speaker 1: to the entire time. I don't follow either of them
Speaker 1: on social media, but every once in a while and
Speaker 1: the Discover page Caitlin's picture will pop up with her
Speaker 1: like with her like tongue out like, oh I wish
Speaker 1: Shawn would just marry me already. And it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: are you guys gonna get married? Do you want to
Speaker 1: get married? Why do you get it? Why did you
Speaker 1: propose to her if you're not gonna marry her? And
Speaker 1: now it's like, is that going to be the thing
Speaker 1: that rips the relationship apart? Because it's like I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's one thing to love each other, but then
Speaker 1: it's also another thing to want to give each other
Speaker 1: what the other person wants. But listen, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what you know. I don't
Speaker 1: know the gate that story, but I'm just elaborating on
Speaker 1: what a point that you brought up sing If you're
Speaker 1: going on the show and you're getting engaged, then that's
Speaker 1: the next steps forth getting married, right, and then why
Speaker 1: would you propose to someone? Right? Right? No? I agree,
Speaker 1: I think this begs another question about how long an
Speaker 1: engagement should last. We talked about that on the podcast before,
Speaker 1: but even earlier this year. I remember because I follow
Speaker 1: Caitlin on on Twitter, and I remember somebody was She
Speaker 1: retweeted something about how like somebody was badgering her about
Speaker 1: but not being married yet and like what's taking so long?
Speaker 1: And she answered it back and saying that they were
Speaker 1: going on their own time. But I think that's why
Speaker 1: when to speak personally. When actually and I got engaged,
Speaker 1: we knew that like within the next couple of months,
Speaker 1: we really wanted to start planning a wedding and figure
Speaker 1: out our next stop in a life. And and that's
Speaker 1: not for everybody. But having said that, I agree with
Speaker 1: you guys where if you get engaged, you know at
Speaker 1: some point you have to start planning for a wedding.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Sean wanted to get married or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Caitlin wanted to get married. I
Speaker 1: don't know the inn workings of that relationship, but um
Speaker 1: yeah it did. It's it's sad when the announcement happened
Speaker 1: because I think everybody can kind of see it coming.
Speaker 1: There wasn't even an article written a few months ago
Speaker 1: about how Caitlin addressed it on our podcast of why
Speaker 1: they weren't posting together were they still together? Um, so
Speaker 1: it's you that makes me so sad. It makes me
Speaker 1: so sad that being and I get it. We're on
Speaker 1: a show we were known to uh, we're known because
Speaker 1: of the dating world that we're in and all that,
Speaker 1: but it also makes me so sad that there's a
Speaker 1: lack of privacy when it comes to like our our
Speaker 1: romantic life. And so if you're having a down, you know,
Speaker 1: if your relationship is not as great as it used
Speaker 1: to be maybe a month ago, because relationships go to
Speaker 1: her ups and downs, just like you have to prove
Speaker 1: yourself to the world and be like you have to
Speaker 1: explain yourself. I will say that's kind of our own fault.
Speaker 1: Though not only do we sign it for the show,
Speaker 1: because it all depends. There have been people on the
Speaker 1: show that have kept their relationship in in romantic life
Speaker 1: private and there have been very prominent figures on the
Speaker 1: show who have gone and gone in relationships that a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about. It was just you know,
Speaker 1: like us with the podcast, we talk a lot about
Speaker 1: our dating life. Obviously, Caitlin hosts a podcast and Sean
Speaker 1: does his his physical training um that he very much
Speaker 1: promotes in social media and is something that I need
Speaker 1: to get into because I really need to start going
Speaker 1: back to the gym. That's a different topic altogether. But
Speaker 1: it's definitely sad because I think with Caitlin and Sean,
Speaker 1: it was just a very rootable couple that everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to see together, and besides any bachelor couple that has kids,
Speaker 1: I think it might be the most heartbreaking breakup. So
Speaker 1: then what's next for both of them? Because you saw
Speaker 1: Caitlin's bachelor at They've been engaged for three years, and
Speaker 1: now what do they do to get to move on?
Speaker 1: You know, it's like Caitlin going to just continue trying
Speaker 1: to date new people. Is she gonna go back? I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be. I don't think it'll be hard
Speaker 1: for Caitlyn could get anyone. She's like a well rounded
Speaker 1: individual and like, but that's it's not hard for you
Speaker 1: to get anyone, but here you are single. So I
Speaker 1: think for me it's different though. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: think at one point I was just like I was
Speaker 1: making the wrong decisions when it came to the people
Speaker 1: I was dating. Um, But I haven't, like, no worry
Speaker 1: about Caitlin's dating life. I mean, I don't haven't worried
Speaker 1: about Sean either, But I'm not saying I'm worried about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what is what are the logistical next
Speaker 1: steps for them? Like they's gonna have a three year engagement?
Speaker 1: Are we going to see Caitlin posting a picture with
Speaker 1: a guy in six months? Is Sean going to jump
Speaker 1: back in? Is he going to live the bachelor life
Speaker 1: for a while? If I was to assume, and obviously
Speaker 1: we all make an ass out of you and me
Speaker 1: whenever you do that, But if I had to guess,
Speaker 1: I would say Sean would probably um. From an outside perspective,
Speaker 1: I could see Sean dating someone quicker than Caitlin. I
Speaker 1: could see Caitlin taking a little while break being on
Speaker 1: our own single um, But that's just a complete gut instinct.
Speaker 1: Who the hell knows? I almost kind of disagree with you.
Speaker 1: And again this is based on no knowledge of the
Speaker 1: two of them personally. But Sean seems like he's so
Speaker 1: caught up in his job that he doesn't have the
Speaker 1: time to Okay, And I'm going to stop you. I'm
Speaker 1: going to stop you because whatever you see on social
Speaker 1: media is not real life. Guys like you don't know
Speaker 1: the story. You just don't know. And I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about Stan, I'm just talking about like in life
Speaker 1: in general, you don't know what is actually happening in
Speaker 1: someone's heart, in someone's life, like in someone's head. You
Speaker 1: just don't know. So yes, I'm sure he's very much
Speaker 1: devoted to this, to his new his new business and
Speaker 1: all of that, but like I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just like overprotective about this breakup through it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went through it, and I understand like people in
Speaker 1: midticking and like trying to just like understand and then
Speaker 1: and try to figure out why it happened or how whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: but you just don't know the story, right, Just all
Speaker 1: I'm doing is telling the story for myself with the
Speaker 1: information that I've been given. And I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: seems like if in this scenario that she would be
Speaker 1: have the ability to move on faster because he seems
Speaker 1: very uh, work obsessed, which is not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying any I'm not taking anything away
Speaker 1: from She's really dedicated to her podcast too, though. That's great, right,
Speaker 1: Sure they're both like working really hard towards alright. Well,
Speaker 1: so are either of them ever going to date in
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation? Again? Absolutely not. There's no way Caitlin goes
Speaker 1: back enough franchise and I I could never see Sean
Speaker 1: going back in there too. Sean struggled through our She's
Speaker 1: in Bachelor, Yeah, it was. It was just hard for him.
Speaker 1: You know. He was very madly in love with Caitlin
Speaker 1: and he was seeing her date all these different guys
Speaker 1: and he felt like he was the one from very
Speaker 1: early on, and I think she did too. But you
Speaker 1: have to go through the process and figure it out,
Speaker 1: and so I think that really took a toll on
Speaker 1: him as to I don't I don't just don't get
Speaker 1: why it can't be just us, And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Sean opened up a little bit on the bach Chorette
Speaker 1: about his his parents and family life, and I think
Speaker 1: he was just very much I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: dating a girl who's also dating other guys at the
Speaker 1: same time. Having said that, that's what you signed up
Speaker 1: because we listen, we all can we all agree that
Speaker 1: we all sign up for the show for the experience
Speaker 1: and then hope something great front Consummer, but we certainly
Speaker 1: don't expect it, Like did any Vanessa, did you really
Speaker 1: go on next season? In the batch? I think you're
Speaker 1: going to get engaged to Nick file I didn't think
Speaker 1: I was going to get engaged, but I definitely was
Speaker 1: hoping for a connection for sure, but having of course.
Speaker 1: But I also never saw any of the previous seasons.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what the show was about other
Speaker 1: than handing out roses. I had no idea what I
Speaker 1: was getting myself into. But for sure I was walking
Speaker 1: in because I'm a hope was romantic. You've never seen
Speaker 1: a single episode of the show before going on the show,
Speaker 1: and yet you decided to blindly sign up for it
Speaker 1: and just trust the magical producers. That be bad preparations people.
Speaker 1: I'm sure people who have watched seasons at the show
Speaker 1: had no idea what they were getting themselves into two
Speaker 1: and they thought that they could have you know, they
Speaker 1: thought they probably knew that what they were doing throughout
Speaker 1: their season, but no, they didn't. I can only speak
Speaker 1: for myself and on the show. I fully never expected
Speaker 1: to make it that far. And then when we were
Speaker 1: there filming, that's when I started investing in getting feelings
Speaker 1: for this girl. And that's when I was like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: I am actually getting jealous of other guys and this sucks.
Speaker 1: So but I didn't nearly have the connection that Sean
Speaker 1: and Heard did, so I can only imagine that level
Speaker 1: of it. I will say I saw a couple episodes
Speaker 1: of Caitlin season. I remember. I remember seeing Sean and
Speaker 1: I was like, he kind of looks like a poor
Speaker 1: man's around gosling and I was watching it with my buddy.
Speaker 1: He looks he does. He walked in and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this night's over. I'm gonna be honest, I don't remember
Speaker 1: you in that season. I remember a little bit of
Speaker 1: Nick and his in his ruffy little afro. Ha. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's my first kind of experience the whole Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 1: I obviously it sucks, as we've kind of beat the
Speaker 1: dead horse with this already. It sucks to see a
Speaker 1: couple's breakup. Um. I would imagine they probably have been
Speaker 1: broken up for a while and they just decided finally
Speaker 1: announce it publicly. Um, because that seems to be the
Speaker 1: obviously that the way to go about it. And now
Speaker 1: logistically like that, I know that they live in Nashville.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're both going to stay in Nashville.
Speaker 1: One's gonna go, you know, wherever they go. So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that kind of all unfolds.
Speaker 1: But obviously we wish nothing but the best, totally two
Speaker 1: incredible people. So there's I'd be lying if a little
Speaker 1: part of me hope this, hopes that they find each
Speaker 1: other once again. What if? What if Caitlin goes back
Speaker 1: to Nick. I mean he got second, he got second
Speaker 1: on her season. We're moving, There's no way. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're just so there's such different people. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: back then, opposite the tract they do, they don't. Nick
Speaker 1: and I were complete opposite. Are you and Caitlin the
Speaker 1: same person? Caitlin and Yeah, Calan. I love Caitlin. I
Speaker 1: love hanging out with her. I mean I love hanging
Speaker 1: out Jared. But I wouldn't necessarily say that we're the
Speaker 1: same person. No, but yeah, we love hanging out. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. I'm not saying Caitlin and I are the
Speaker 1: same person. I think we just like. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I love this is a story of it. I love
Speaker 1: giving love a second chance when it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: Maybe she could go and revise her pick and maybe
Speaker 1: make the decision to I think that ship is said
Speaker 1: so second to first, second to first, Now he's anyway,
Speaker 1: and well Fix Times a show. So you guys know
Speaker 1: I'm in Toronto. I don't know if you guys follow
Speaker 1: me on Instagram. I'm so I'm here with While we
Speaker 1: were here for the sixth Foundation, it was me, Danna, Jayson, Blake, Um,
Speaker 1: Alexis and who else came into town and not forgetting
Speaker 1: someone Ascid and Kevin Um. So we're all here for
Speaker 1: the sixth Foundation and Um. First of all, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to highlight before I talked about what I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. The women that were throwing themselves at
Speaker 1: Jason and Blake in sanity shock you. Well, it's talking
Speaker 1: because as a woman coming out of the franchise, guys
Speaker 1: don't throw themselves at us. So I've never really and pressed.
Speaker 1: When I was with Nick, women wouldn't throw themselves at
Speaker 1: him because he would engage to me, so because I'm
Speaker 1: not to me, but he was just games. So I've
Speaker 1: never really experienced it. But wow, it was overwhelming. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you guys handle that now. Those two
Speaker 1: are a Jason and Blake are two of the most
Speaker 1: eligible bachelors in the country, you know, and in Canada.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, I was gonna. I was getting
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Speaker 1: to day. So I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about a man name Frankie Grande Dean. Do you know
Speaker 1: who Frankie Grande is? And who Ariana Grande is? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because you guys, do you guys know this brother? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait. We keep saying Frankie Grande. I
Speaker 1: thought you were referring to like like you were saying
Speaker 1: like Peter Grande, like like that's a that's a couple name.
Speaker 1: I thought Arianna was dating a guy named Frankie. I
Speaker 1: didn't know we were referring to Pete Davidson as Peter.
Speaker 1: That's news to me too. Okay, okay, get off your
Speaker 1: high horse. Uh well, Grande's Ariana Grande's brother, Vanessa. Do
Speaker 1: you know who he is? Yeah? Okay, I knew that
Speaker 1: I knew he was on TV at some place. I
Speaker 1: sat next to him at the Jurassic World premiere humble
Speaker 1: brag right there. That was able to go to that.
Speaker 1: The only reason I was able to go was Ashley though.
Speaker 1: Let's be let's pretty real. Um so. But apparently there
Speaker 1: was news come out that Frankie Grande is in something
Speaker 1: called a throuble. Do you know what a throuble is?
Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the podcast before. A three
Speaker 1: way couple of my it is a three it's a
Speaker 1: three relationship. That's how they're saying. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to pronounce it a three relationship. It's it's three people
Speaker 1: in in in one relationship. So is it him and
Speaker 1: another guy and a girl with him and two girls?
Speaker 1: Three guys? So he is in a throuble with a
Speaker 1: gay couple. Okay, I didn't know that was really a thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Is the thing to the extent of
Speaker 1: there is its own term. I think it only would
Speaker 1: have well obviously not only, but I think it is
Speaker 1: easier when it's same sex. I would assume, you know, well,
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Let's hear it, Dan, and let's hear this.
Speaker 1: It just makes more sense. It's it's a third share
Speaker 1: of each person versus if it's two guys and a girl,
Speaker 1: then those two guys get a fifty fifty share unless
Speaker 1: they're bi sex. And if there's two girls and it's share.
Speaker 1: But if it's three girls, one third, one third one third,
Speaker 1: its three guys one third one third to the third.
Speaker 1: If it's two girls, one guy, one half, one half
Speaker 1: of the girls get the full guy. So it's just
Speaker 1: from a perspective, you can couple off in three separate
Speaker 1: ways without any hurt feelings or anything. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: check your math on that one. Yeah, I know you're right.
Speaker 1: It's like a Blake Lively Savage situation. You know, she's
Speaker 1: got the one guy who fulfills her physical needs and
Speaker 1: the other guy that fulfills her emotional needs. For those
Speaker 1: who don't know, Savage As was a movie with Blake
Speaker 1: Alive and Mel Hurst one of my favorite actors. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jared. Um. Okay, well, so how was sitting
Speaker 1: next to you at the movie premiere? It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Who's very energetic, very outgoing. I'm not you know. When
Speaker 1: I heard the news, I was like, yeah, that makes sense. Um,
Speaker 1: I could see him and like, so, how was this news?
Speaker 1: How did this become news? He revealed it on a
Speaker 1: red carpet to US magazine. He's open to talking about it.
Speaker 1: They asked him how his dating life was going, and
Speaker 1: he said, oh, well, I've got two boyfriends. Well, I
Speaker 1: think people are just intrigued by the idea of a
Speaker 1: throuble and what exactly that means and how it's becoming
Speaker 1: a thing now today. I'm a little intrigued to there's
Speaker 1: actually so I was watching a show one time that
Speaker 1: was about a throuble and it was so apparently it
Speaker 1: was this guy and this girl, and he was like,
Speaker 1: there's a there's somebody in charge of the throuble. Apparently
Speaker 1: there's like one alpha and there's two betas. Apparently that's
Speaker 1: about how this guy was describing I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's accurate or not, but he was saying that he
Speaker 1: was in a he was in a relationship with one girl.
Speaker 1: They both agreed that they wanted another girl to enter
Speaker 1: the relationship, but apparently they needed to meet the third
Speaker 1: girl at the same time. One they could not like.
Speaker 1: For example, she had a friend who was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'd love for her to join this throuble. He was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the relationship would have been further apparently, and
Speaker 1: would have been more further involved than the other. And
Speaker 1: that's where jealousy and insecurity comes in. He was saying
Speaker 1: that if two people are committed relationship and they want
Speaker 1: to add somebody else, it should be a stranger that
Speaker 1: neither one of them knows, and they should both be
Speaker 1: introduced to this stranger at the same time for a
Speaker 1: throuble or just for a night. Really a relationship, a
Speaker 1: relationship within three people. But that this man was saying,
Speaker 1: I kind of disagree that because the fast forward a month.
Speaker 1: Obviously that person that was just introduced is going to
Speaker 1: feel more strongly about one or the other, you know,
Speaker 1: So it's like, either way that person is gonna develop
Speaker 1: stronger feelings. Well that's why I was thinking someone else. Well,
Speaker 1: that's where this guy was saying that there's like um
Speaker 1: dominance comes in exactly, so like the alpha kind of
Speaker 1: controls like the beta's. It's I don't know this is
Speaker 1: how this gentleman was explaining it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is how this is relationship working, but there is
Speaker 1: It is interesting to me. To see how that dynamic
Speaker 1: would work within jealousy and like if you're spending more
Speaker 1: time with one person than the other. Uh, I'm curious
Speaker 1: about that. I'm curious if Frankie was in a relationship
Speaker 1: and then added a third guy, if the three came
Speaker 1: together at once, like it was like kind of a
Speaker 1: Pokemon getting like an evolution stone or whatever. Moving on
Speaker 1: to Wow, that's great. Yeah, he's involved with a married couple.
Speaker 1: They're already married. This is his quote. He says, Mike
Speaker 1: and Daniel are both extraordinary people, and I think the
Speaker 1: world of them. Each of them complete me in different ways,
Speaker 1: and I'm honored to be in this very special, very
Speaker 1: fun relationship. It does seem that like Frankie is the beta,
Speaker 1: like right, because if they were already married and then
Speaker 1: he's joining them, maybe they were two betas that needed
Speaker 1: enough with to come in. Maybe that's a good point.
Speaker 1: And think about the Vanessa, you have any thoughts about
Speaker 1: this throufle Vanessa? The question is are we all sort
Speaker 1: of hmm on it because it's not many people do it,
Speaker 1: Like if everybody was doing this, would we be like,
Speaker 1: of course? I think for me, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: married to theself if you're getting married or getting married
Speaker 1: for one person. But then again, last week was the
Speaker 1: last week it was talking about being open to the
Speaker 1: idea of a freesom. I wouldn't necessarily invite someone into
Speaker 1: my emotional space in my relationship. I would just invite
Speaker 1: them into the space. But what if they offered you
Speaker 1: the same commitment that your other partner did in terms
Speaker 1: of like emotional security and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be able to uh divide
Speaker 1: my attention in that kind of way. I'm a very
Speaker 1: and we're all wired very differently. I'm wired to love
Speaker 1: one person at a time. If you're not required to
Speaker 1: do anything, but you are allowed to receive more things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What if what if the
Speaker 1: obligation doesn't fall on you to them babysit to relationships
Speaker 1: that then allows you to be open to receiving two
Speaker 1: new relationships. No, because I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone kind of needs to be on the same page
Speaker 1: whenever you invite someone into your personal romantic space. There
Speaker 1: needs to be so many rules and already relationships well, no,
Speaker 1: I mean there needs to be rules in the shad
Speaker 1: that everyone kind of needs to agree to what happens,
Speaker 1: right of course, especially you've got to all communicate, and
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: This is how it's going to go down. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So if I'm getting, if I'm getting
Speaker 1: emotionally the attention, or if I'm receiving something, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to agree that that person that's coming into my relationships,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to understand that I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to give it to them either. I'm just exhausted
Speaker 1: from being in a relationship with one person. Well, I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being in a relationship with two other people.
Speaker 1: Especially Actually I'm sure that's a ghasting but it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta you want to keep up your
Speaker 1: game having double the effort. Of my question is what
Speaker 1: if Frankie hooks up with another guy that's not part
Speaker 1: of the throuble. Is that considered cheating? I would imagine,
Speaker 1: So a throuble is a committed relationship. You're in a
Speaker 1: committed relationship with two other people. But that was my question.
Speaker 1: Do they see, like, do all three of the people
Speaker 1: in the throuble not just for kis by any uh
Speaker 1: do they see each other as soulmates? Is it like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have one soulmate, have two and that's where
Speaker 1: we're all in this relationship together. Or is it just
Speaker 1: like I don't believe in dating one person, which is
Speaker 1: why I'm dating multiple people once. That would be the
Speaker 1: interesting question. I would have to be like, do you
Speaker 1: guys see each other as soulmates? Or is this more
Speaker 1: like I don't believe in soulmates, which is why I'm
Speaker 1: in a trouble. Back to Dean's point that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have feeling stronger for one than the other. There's a
Speaker 1: quote that says, if you love two people at the
Speaker 1: same time, choose the second one because if you really
Speaker 1: love the first one, you wouldn't have fallen for the
Speaker 1: second one. Or that's a movie or something is supposedly
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp said that. I don't know where, but is
Speaker 1: there anything to do you agree with that? Um? It's funny.
Speaker 1: So I I read this thing about soul much the
Speaker 1: other day that says something along the lines of, if
Speaker 1: you believe in soulmates, you're more inherently lazy than someone
Speaker 1: who doesn't believe in soulmates, and you're less willing to
Speaker 1: work on a relationship because if things are going awry
Speaker 1: or poorly in a relationship, and you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're just not my soulmates, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: try and fix this relationship. So maybe there's just a
Speaker 1: movement of people that are saying we don't believe in
Speaker 1: soulmates and because of that, we are open to exploring
Speaker 1: different types of relationships. Might be a threatle I don't
Speaker 1: know that's it's just it's a weird tiest obviously, because
Speaker 1: it's hard to even grasp the concept of it, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so foreign that I don't know if I could
Speaker 1: ever put myself in those shoes. Back to that quot
Speaker 1: though about soulmates, I do think I think that just
Speaker 1: might be an indictment on people, not so much on
Speaker 1: people believing in soulmates. I think that's just more lazy
Speaker 1: people being lazy in relationship and not willing to work
Speaker 1: through difficult times. And if they blame it on this
Speaker 1: person is not my soul mate, I think that's just stupidity,
Speaker 1: not what you believe. Do you believe in soulmate? You know?
Speaker 1: I used to say yes, but I think i'm I'm
Speaker 1: slowly to during the opposite direction. I was the same
Speaker 1: way until I started day Nashley, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: and I'm a hope of traumatic and everyone knows that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I believe in the idea of
Speaker 1: a soul mate like that'd be so sad form a
Speaker 1: single until their later years and to say that they've
Speaker 1: never found their soulmate. I think there's multiple people that
Speaker 1: were meant to be with at different stages in our life,
Speaker 1: and you could be happy with either one of those options. Well,
Speaker 1: so are are either these people Frankie SOULMATEE? Then is
Speaker 1: the question or vice versa? Or either did these people
Speaker 1: find their soul mate? Mary? He married his husband and
Speaker 1: then he was like, oh wait, actually we just found
Speaker 1: our second soul mate. What happens if the married couple,
Speaker 1: if one of them starts going on more dates with
Speaker 1: Frankie and then the husband kinda just gets becomes an afterthought.
Speaker 1: But you see what I mean, there's like, it's just
Speaker 1: so chaoic. How do you how do you you need
Speaker 1: a monitor so equal time is spent with each person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of it, doesn't It doesn't sound easy.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a logistical nightmare. It sounds stressful. There's
Speaker 1: like some religions where people were the man can marry
Speaker 1: multiple women. Yeah, you can date as many people as
Speaker 1: you want. You know, a guy can have seven wives.
Speaker 1: He has one in the living room, one in the bedroom,
Speaker 1: when in the guest bedroom, in the office. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: there was there was whoa easy um But there there
Speaker 1: was a TV show based on this and the women
Speaker 1: were actually like all that, but they were all living
Speaker 1: in different homes and the guy would go that their
Speaker 1: husbands would go to each of their homes and like
Speaker 1: spend equal amount of time with each of them. And
Speaker 1: it just worked for that. You know, whatever floats your boat. Really,
Speaker 1: it's a fun word to say, isn't it. Polygamy. It's
Speaker 1: not the word. It's just a fun word to say. Really.
Speaker 1: I do want to say something about soulmates that had
Speaker 1: me thinking, like, my interpretation of soulmate might be different
Speaker 1: than your guys. I don't believe soulmate is just one person.
Speaker 1: I do believe that there are people in this world though,
Speaker 1: that you can spend the rest of your life with.
Speaker 1: They're compatible enough to join them on this journey called life.
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily mean that that there's only one
Speaker 1: person out there. But I do think that there are
Speaker 1: characteristics and personalities and people out there that, for example, Dean,
Speaker 1: you can spend the rest of your life with. Now
Speaker 1: there might be multiple I have I have a fun
Speaker 1: sex in the city. Are the girls carries soulmate or
Speaker 1: is big that becomes it's not. I think it's both.
Speaker 1: I think it's aiden, but that's just me own soul mate.
Speaker 1: Of course you can absolutely well. Wait, since you brought
Speaker 1: up the word compatibility, I have a question for you, guys,
Speaker 1: so I have with having this power with a friend
Speaker 1: of mine. Do you think you're compatible with someone or
Speaker 1: do you think you can even be compatible with someone
Speaker 1: until you start fighting with them? Because you know how
Speaker 1: everyone's on their best behavior when you're not arguing, But
Speaker 1: then the minute you don't have, the minute you don't
Speaker 1: get something you want, you get to see the worst
Speaker 1: side of a person, and then once you argue. For me,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is um repair. And if someone is
Speaker 1: not able to repair an argument the same way as
Speaker 1: I as I do, then I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: even compatible. No, I agree, I think you have to learn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes perfecent. You have to learn, excuse me, how
Speaker 1: each other fight? You know, because it is you. You're
Speaker 1: in that romantic you're in that infatuated state really on,
Speaker 1: and so I agree that you need to really you
Speaker 1: need to have an argument and learn how each other fight.
Speaker 1: Really to designate. Okay, well, how is this relationship going
Speaker 1: to go? Because within any relationship, you're gonna fight. But
Speaker 1: have you, guys ever thought like, have you ever thought
Speaker 1: about passaways to sue you've had and why they worked
Speaker 1: out or why they did it? Does it have to
Speaker 1: do with I don't really get people. It's funny because
Speaker 1: all like like, well, I disagree with just about everything.
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different. But it's funny because
Speaker 1: I'll date people or I'll even have friends. Then they're
Speaker 1: always like, do you ever get mad? Like I can
Speaker 1: never picture you getting mad, And that's very true. It's
Speaker 1: like I'll have a little disagreements and things, and and
Speaker 1: as I've mentioned before, like I'm sarcastic to the point
Speaker 1: where people can maybe perceive it as me arguing or
Speaker 1: something that's actually had this conversation the other day. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm never really arguing anything, Like I don't really
Speaker 1: hair strongly enough about anything to argue anything. But I
Speaker 1: will debate this out of anything that you say, whether
Speaker 1: or not I believe it's true or not, and that
Speaker 1: can lead to that can lead to It's just fun
Speaker 1: Devil's advocates. I enjoyed a Devil's advocate. It's fun to
Speaker 1: press someone on an idea that they have to see
Speaker 1: how firmly they believe it and how much they don't
Speaker 1: know about it. Oh. Yeah's exhausting to date me. That's
Speaker 1: not that's not news. I'm well aware of this, and
Speaker 1: I thought you were too. No, well, we've discussed to
Speaker 1: the point of Naja on this podcast that necessary to
Speaker 1: rethink whether she wants to date you anymore. Dan. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I wonder if a DNA test can tell you who
Speaker 1: your soul mate is. I mean, it's got to be possible,
Speaker 1: right If they can tell you whether you have detached
Speaker 1: ear lobes, or your left hand or your left handed,
Speaker 1: they should be able to tell you if and who
Speaker 1: your soul mate is. I would imagine it's going to
Speaker 1: have anyways three in me. Maybe I might not be
Speaker 1: able to tell you who your soul mate is, but
Speaker 1: they will be able to provide you some amazing DNA
Speaker 1: results that will tell you so much about your history
Speaker 1: before that you didn't even know about before. So their
Speaker 1: service provides you with over seventy five genetic reports about
Speaker 1: your health like lactose and taller and sleep movement, trades,
Speaker 1: your eye color, hair curl, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And all you have to do is spit into the
Speaker 1: two provided and mail it back to the lab. Did
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Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. Spit by twenty three and Me
Speaker 1: rolling in his grave, And I do want to point
Speaker 1: out one quick thing about last week that I was
Speaker 1: miss informed on. I thought that I knew what I
Speaker 1: was talking about. Turns out I only knew a little bit.
Speaker 1: We had a who was it? He was a genealogist
Speaker 1: or something like that. He emailed the podcast and he said,
Speaker 1: I was. I was talking about the chromosomes that we
Speaker 1: have twenty three X and then twenty three pairs of
Speaker 1: exs and then the male will have an X Y pair.
Speaker 1: He says, the way chromosomes work, and that's what I said.
Speaker 1: Let me let me so how it works. We all
Speaker 1: have chromosomes named one through two. Downsinsim for example, is
Speaker 1: called trisan me twenty one because as an extra third
Speaker 1: copy of chromosome one. But we only have one pair
Speaker 1: of what we are called the sex or what are
Speaker 1: called the sex chromosomes X and Y. Women are X
Speaker 1: X men or X y UM. So I was wrong
Speaker 1: on that statement. I wanted to clear the air on
Speaker 1: that because I don't want were you wrong about so?
Speaker 1: I said that women have twenty three pairs of xx
Speaker 1: chromosomes and men have twenty two pairs of x X
Speaker 1: and one pair of x Y chromosome, which isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: the case. I remember that's when I talked about how
Speaker 1: the mail gender could be completely a ball in a
Speaker 1: thousand generations from now or no, no, no no. I
Speaker 1: was like, right, thank you, thank you very much. You
Speaker 1: guys are so kind, say Nicole sent that. Even by
Speaker 1: the way, if I if I was if I wrote
Speaker 1: that on a mid term exam, I probably would have
Speaker 1: gotten like a B minus. I feel like that should
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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. UM, it's awesome. It's super informative. You'll
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Speaker 1: they can offer you some pretty interesting insight into your past. So, Vanessa,
Speaker 1: single and very much ready for vingal, did you just
Speaker 1: rehard yourself in the third person? I did. I just
Speaker 1: didn't want to gloss over that I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: think about first of all, I wanted to say when
Speaker 1: I was in Toronto this weekend, I went to two events.
Speaker 1: One was for the Kevin's Events and the other one
Speaker 1: was at the Husson's Bay, And the amount of people
Speaker 1: that came up to me and just spoke about the
Speaker 1: podcast was it was so touching, And I just wanted
Speaker 1: to let you guys know that there's so many people
Speaker 1: that do listen to us and people that are listening
Speaker 1: to us. Thank you so much. UM, I love whenever
Speaker 1: you come up to me and and say how much
Speaker 1: you love our podcast. So I was talking to a
Speaker 1: friend of mine and she's going on a date and
Speaker 1: she's like, I wonder if I should ask just about
Speaker 1: his flaws and I'm Michael, why would you want to
Speaker 1: bring something negative up about this person? It's just like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to know if he's self aware of whether
Speaker 1: or not he has like the flaws that I would
Speaker 1: think he would have or whatever. So do you think
Speaker 1: it's a good idea to ask when you're dating someone
Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the relationship, to ask each
Speaker 1: other what each other's flaws are? It sounds like it's
Speaker 1: really getting to know each other. It sounds like a
Speaker 1: job or to you where like you're sitting down someone's like, okay,
Speaker 1: name your granny strength. Okay, now you name your grainy
Speaker 1: s weakness. Um, God, I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Dean? I would say, no, why
Speaker 1: is it? Why? No? Well, what to ask somebody is
Speaker 1: about their flaws in the first date seems a little aggressive.
Speaker 1: Well not the first date. I'm saying at the beginning
Speaker 1: states before you really get to know each other. What
Speaker 1: I've started doing is I'm just just put it all
Speaker 1: out there, most all the bad and whatever good. There
Speaker 1: is no exactly being only talk about himself exactly, because
Speaker 1: that way you do, you're getting yourself into before you
Speaker 1: even have to commit too much time to it. No,
Speaker 1: but you need to work on loving the parts of
Speaker 1: yourself that you think aren't lovable. Yeah, but Dean downplays
Speaker 1: himself so you can exceed expectations. But who actually really
Speaker 1: knows their flaws? Like, I'm gonna ask each of you
Speaker 1: right now, what are your flaws? Oh, I'm impulsive that yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm indecisive when pulsive is good and pulsivity is good. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not because I'm either black or white
Speaker 1: and we spoke about this, Damia, I'm either I don't
Speaker 1: know how to how to whom in the areas of
Speaker 1: great and that's the terrible thing when you're dating someone
Speaker 1: because there's all great areas. So I'm I'm I'm aware
Speaker 1: of that. And is it something that I should highlight
Speaker 1: to the person that I'm interested in like it? Or
Speaker 1: is that a warning sign? Like this's just crazy? Whenever?
Speaker 1: I will say this though, if if I were to
Speaker 1: ask somebody about their flaws early on and they gave
Speaker 1: me some kind of like bs, like you know, I
Speaker 1: just I love pleasing people, So you work too hard?
Speaker 1: Work too hard? It's no, I want to know a
Speaker 1: real flaw, So Amy I will agree with you. They're like,
Speaker 1: do people really explain their flaws like something they're actually
Speaker 1: insecure about? Would they ever admit that? Because I don't know, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think you should. I'm not saying they would so well, Vanessa,
Speaker 1: I think also the question pertains on the circumstance. How
Speaker 1: early on is this? Is it a date in? Is
Speaker 1: it a month in? That's the question I would have.
Speaker 1: I don't know upon meeting that person, just start unloading.
Speaker 1: I don't mind this as a first date question. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like the
Speaker 1: reason it's in a job and if he was the
Speaker 1: same reason to be on the first The reason it's
Speaker 1: a bad question on the first date is because if
Speaker 1: they're not answering that question without you asking it, then
Speaker 1: it's not going to be answered truthfully and honestly. And
Speaker 1: a law, guys, is only a flaw if it's something
Speaker 1: that is difficult for the other person to deal with.
Speaker 1: So my flaw with someone is very different than the
Speaker 1: same thing with someone else. And nobody really knows their
Speaker 1: own flaw alas you guys, until you're in the relationship
Speaker 1: and it becomes a thing. So yeah, I would agree
Speaker 1: with that because it's only a good luck to everybody.
Speaker 1: You're all screwed. I guess I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 1: If guys like I'm a cuter, then yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: red flags for like anyone. That's unless you guys want
Speaker 1: to have have an open relationship. If you would never say
Speaker 1: that though, trouble committing to one person? Okay, check please.
Speaker 1: I actually dated someone that said I may or may
Speaker 1: not have a hard time being loyal, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I will say, you know what, give a person credit
Speaker 1: though they were honest. Absolutely, yep they were, and I'm
Speaker 1: guessing still single. Probably you know, it's a flaw that
Speaker 1: they got overcome, but at least they were like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if I could be
Speaker 1: in a committed relationship, and if we are, I could
Speaker 1: cheat on you. So it's up to you whether you
Speaker 1: want to take this endeavor or not. But I'm just
Speaker 1: forewarning you, by the way, speaking of flaws, and none
Speaker 1: of you have to deal with this yet, but just
Speaker 1: looking into the future, you know you can we all
Speaker 1: have our flaws, and you can live a full, productive
Speaker 1: life with the flaws. You can have a full relationship
Speaker 1: with those flaws and then you have kids, and when
Speaker 1: you have kids, your flaws are reflected back to you
Speaker 1: and you shine the giant spotlight on your flaws and
Speaker 1: it's the worst. I'm having kids. It's great being a dad,
Speaker 1: but boy, you see it really clearly everything that's wrong
Speaker 1: with you because you see them doing it and realize
Speaker 1: where they got it, and it's so uncomfortable. What have
Speaker 1: you experienced your kids projecting back to you what you
Speaker 1: put onto Look, I don't know that I could have
Speaker 1: been this open when I before I had kids. But
Speaker 1: I can be a sarcastic jerk and I have a temper,
Speaker 1: and I see him in both of my kids. I
Speaker 1: see that in both of them, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: we really mess up our kids without even realizing that
Speaker 1: we're doing it. When I see it reflected back, I'm like, Matt,
Speaker 1: I have to be a better person. And it's made
Speaker 1: me a better person because you start to see it
Speaker 1: and you start to see how they see you, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, it's life. Never you never stopped
Speaker 1: the self improvement in life that makes me have kids
Speaker 1: to see objectively what's wrong with me. I mean, I
Speaker 1: have ideas. I know what's wrong with that until I
Speaker 1: see it firsthand what I have, You're gonna look at
Speaker 1: your kids and be like, that is the most beautiful
Speaker 1: kid in my entire life. It's funny because I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this yesterday because I definitely do have like
Speaker 1: these self worth issues, even though like on the other sides,
Speaker 1: like okay, like i know, like I'm pretty good looking,
Speaker 1: I know I'm pretty smart, I know I'm pretty funny,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty kind of all this kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, I still kind of suck though.
Speaker 1: I think we have all those Yeah. Yeah, anyways, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think I think it's a fair question
Speaker 1: to ask. I just again, I don't think that if
Speaker 1: you're asking that question, you're not going to get the
Speaker 1: answer that you want, because they should be they should
Speaker 1: just be like forward with that information anyways, And if
Speaker 1: they're not willing to be bored with it, then you're
Speaker 1: probably not going to get the answer that you want
Speaker 1: to out of asking that question. Does that make sense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense. I wanted to transition for a
Speaker 1: quick sation. Andybody watch the Kardashians in here, Yes, every week,
Speaker 1: every week, I keep up with them. You're lying to
Speaker 1: me well, I had a question. Ashley's obviously a big
Speaker 1: Kardashian fans, so I was watching the episode, and you know,
Speaker 1: I always blame it on Ashley. UM, I don't like
Speaker 1: watching her anything. The Lord Dissack is my favorite. Um
Speaker 1: so last night He's the best. Last Night was an
Speaker 1: episode where it got aired. Remember that story about Tristan
Speaker 1: Thompson cheating on Clode Kardashian came out, So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinions about that little topic because
Speaker 1: it came out. It was a little bit more in
Speaker 1: depth about the whole situation where Tristan was at the
Speaker 1: club he had the video taken of him making out
Speaker 1: with another girl while Chloe is days away from giving birth,
Speaker 1: and it just got me thinking, Vanessa. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: cheating is horrible, but it got me thinking about like
Speaker 1: the different levels of cheating and if if if you
Speaker 1: were in a relationship and a guy made out with
Speaker 1: another girl, would it be would you immediately come out
Speaker 1: of me? I would be I'd be terrified of Vanessa.
Speaker 1: I feel like Vanessa just punch that guy square in
Speaker 1: the face and knock him out. And the thing is, um,
Speaker 1: when ever someone gets seated on. I think our eagles like, well,
Speaker 1: that person cheated on me with my man, you know,
Speaker 1: like they knew I was in a relationship. It's not
Speaker 1: the other woman or the other man. It's the person
Speaker 1: that you're dating. Be to the asphalt, not the person
Speaker 1: that was involved. Um, I mean, listen, we don't know
Speaker 1: the level of what the relationship was. Like, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: having a baby together, were they? I don't know what
Speaker 1: the level of the relationship was. They were having a
Speaker 1: baby together, they were living together in Cleveland. What do
Speaker 1: you mean we don't know the level of the relationships.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't keep up with the Kardashian So
Speaker 1: I don't know what's the level. Okay, so you don't
Speaker 1: know what the level of relationship was we as fans
Speaker 1: of the Kardashians, and what the level of relationship was.
Speaker 1: They were living together and pregnant with a child. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson was. It doesn't get more together than that,
Speaker 1: other than having a ring on her finger, which you
Speaker 1: might as well have had at that point. Okay, why
Speaker 1: are you yelling? Because I'm I'm invested in this relationship,
Speaker 1: is very invested in this relationship right now? Well, it
Speaker 1: got me a question because there was actually scenario a
Speaker 1: few years ago that occurred, UM where it was a
Speaker 1: friend of mine was in a relationship, a very loving
Speaker 1: relationship with this girl who was wonderful. Um, but it
Speaker 1: was it was the senior year of college. She was out,
Speaker 1: there's drinks had with a couple of her guy friends.
Speaker 1: One thing led to another and they ended up she
Speaker 1: ended up kissing one of the guy friends and it
Speaker 1: was like a kiss that lasted like five seconds. She
Speaker 1: felt horrible about it. She went back to her boyfriend
Speaker 1: like later that week, you know, told him everything, was
Speaker 1: very upfront and honest about everything. They were probably about
Speaker 1: a year within their relationship at this point. So like
Speaker 1: for me that it's kind of like a gray area,
Speaker 1: right because I'm like, well, that is cheating, but man,
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, that's my question. Yeah, Vanessa, as a girl, say,
Speaker 1: a guy went out, he was very loyal, very good boyfriend,
Speaker 1: but one night just got a little drunk and kissed
Speaker 1: a girl and was like, holy, what the hell did
Speaker 1: I do? So I've never been cheated on, or at
Speaker 1: least I don't think I've ever been cheated on, So
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do because I don't
Speaker 1: have an insecurity when it comes to being someone being
Speaker 1: faithful and loyal with me. I thought I have other
Speaker 1: insecurities and relationships. Um so, I it's never really crossed
Speaker 1: my mind. But of course, like I said, because I'm
Speaker 1: so black and white, I don't know if I'd be
Speaker 1: able to ever look at that person the same way.
Speaker 1: Um again, and I think I think I would emotionally
Speaker 1: kind of be out and I wouldn't want to do
Speaker 1: with them. So that's the question that's a deal breaker
Speaker 1: and what's not it? Because we all can agree what's
Speaker 1: cheating with not cheating? What's a relationship ender? And what
Speaker 1: if something you can work through? It depends on on
Speaker 1: the relationship you are. If you love the person, it
Speaker 1: takes a lot more to end their relationship when if
Speaker 1: you're kind of party for down in the first place.
Speaker 1: To the reason I asked this questions because Chloe is
Speaker 1: obviously still with Tristan together. Of course they're still together exactly,
Speaker 1: so for the kids, that is a different level. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing he plays in the NBA. All of
Speaker 1: those guys are gone out and making out checks on
Speaker 1: a regular basis. Okay, yes, we're gonna make the generalization,
Speaker 1: making the generation all NBA players go out every time
Speaker 1: they're in your city and make out with girls at
Speaker 1: the club that they have a bottle at. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that. I don't believe that you're living out live
Speaker 1: then you're living with what you're living with, blinders on Vanessa.
Speaker 1: I think they have a bad reputation, absolutely, But to
Speaker 1: say that every NBA play or in every NFL player
Speaker 1: or any whatever, AFL, whatever, that's a great sport. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my favorite every Thursday night and whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: know every single person, but I was generally speaking, most
Speaker 1: of those guys go out. But so are you saying
Speaker 1: if you start dating a professional athlete, your expectations of
Speaker 1: of one different in terms of fidelity. Without question, I
Speaker 1: think it has to be at least in your mind.
Speaker 1: I think it's a real factor. Like look at what
Speaker 1: happened Danny Avendola, Danny Mandola and Olivia Coppo. They were
Speaker 1: in a relationship date so so they were dating for
Speaker 1: a while, they broke up, and then it looked like
Speaker 1: the past couple of months they started dating again. They
Speaker 1: were on each other's Instagram, but apparently then he was
Speaker 1: spotted with another girl down in Miami, like last week
Speaker 1: on the beach. On the beach, somebody that kind of
Speaker 1: looks like Olivia Cobo, but it wasn't her, and they
Speaker 1: were like kind of touchy feely, and so apparently the
Speaker 1: story is that like Danny and Olivia were like dating
Speaker 1: but like not committed and like he he. The story
Speaker 1: goes that, like Olivia was like his one chick and
Speaker 1: this girl was like her his number two chick, and
Speaker 1: she was she didn't know about it. So it's like,
Speaker 1: but I gotta say, it does feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of athletes within the sporting world, there's more story about.
Speaker 1: These guys are heroes in their hometowns that they play in.
Speaker 1: They have millions of dollars. Of course, there are incredible people.
Speaker 1: I would imagine like a Steph Curry is incredibly faithful
Speaker 1: to his wife, and you see these very successful and
Speaker 1: happy marriages. But I would imagine majority, if not nine
Speaker 1: plus percent, of these guys are going out because they're
Speaker 1: going to new cities every week every day. That's something.
Speaker 1: They're always on the road. They're always on the road.
Speaker 1: Is there also a city element, like if you're dating
Speaker 1: somebody in l a Manhattan is a different expectation than
Speaker 1: dating somebody in Omahana, Braska. Yes, without question. What's with
Speaker 1: all these tea ball of questions? You guys freaking talking.
Speaker 1: They're all so clear cut, right and wrong, not right
Speaker 1: and wrong. But you're dating someone in l A. I'm
Speaker 1: not passionate. I'm just a little cranky. He was on
Speaker 1: a red eye from Hawaii this morning. I agree, there
Speaker 1: is dating someone in l A is different than dating
Speaker 1: someone and you know, oh yeah, I agree. I just
Speaker 1: had this conversation this morning with a friend of mine
Speaker 1: and he was living in New York and in l A.
Speaker 1: And she's happily marriage is like, yeah, it was just
Speaker 1: like I was the worst beating experience being in l
Speaker 1: A and being in New York. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: get it. I'm back in one three all now. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I always, especially when girls and and guys for instance,
Speaker 1: are looking to settle down, it's much more challenging to
Speaker 1: settle down. Granted you have a lot more people to meet,
Speaker 1: but because of that, I think it makes it much
Speaker 1: more challenging to meet the right person. I agree, there's
Speaker 1: just so many shiny things in cities like New York
Speaker 1: and l a there's you know, your eyes are always
Speaker 1: going over the place, which is why you should just
Speaker 1: probably be in a throttle and being a couple, you
Speaker 1: know more than one person. All Right, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: before we do the spot which we got are doing,
Speaker 1: Gonna make a controversial statement and then we can discuss
Speaker 1: it after the spot. Okay, I think that when I
Speaker 1: do believe this, I think that when a woman cheats
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Speaker 1: face world. Train going anyway? Okay, So let me give
Speaker 1: you my feelings on this and then you can give
Speaker 1: your counterpoint. I think that it's more forgivable when women
Speaker 1: cheat that when men cheat, and here's why, because they
Speaker 1: cheat for different reasons. Men cheat because of physical urge
Speaker 1: of physical attractiveness. Men see something and they just decide,
Speaker 1: I'm going to act on this, where the part of
Speaker 1: the relationship is the agreement that I'm not going to
Speaker 1: act on these feelings. So they see someone and they
Speaker 1: act on those feelings and they destroy the whole idea
Speaker 1: of the relationship. Now, when women cheat, I do believe
Speaker 1: it's because they are not getting what they need from
Speaker 1: their partner. So I think there's a lot more blamed
Speaker 1: to be placed on the guy in the relationship when
Speaker 1: the woman cheats, because if he was doing everything he
Speaker 1: needs to do for her. And I'm not saying in
Speaker 1: the bedroom, I'm saying in light all around, around the clock,
Speaker 1: it's always the guy's fault. What you're saying, if the
Speaker 1: girls cheats, the guys fall. I know it does sound
Speaker 1: like it's such a cop out to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I cheated, but it was his fault. He just doesn't
Speaker 1: do it for me because of the reasons why. I
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I hate this. I hate this. I
Speaker 1: also know plenty of women that just find their person
Speaker 1: I would actually annoying. That's not a reason to cheat.
Speaker 1: To your point, So a man cheats because of physical urges, right,
Speaker 1: a woman would cheat because of an emotion emotional needs.
Speaker 1: That I actually agree with you, but I don't agree
Speaker 1: with the fact that it makes it any better. Okay.
Speaker 1: I agree that with your assessment that maybe women cheat
Speaker 1: more often because of those reasons rather than guys just
Speaker 1: doing it instinctually. Having said that it's still for me
Speaker 1: doesn't make it okay. I'm not saying it's okay. I'm
Speaker 1: saying I'm saying like, if my wife cheated on me,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know that I have failed her in some
Speaker 1: way and we need to work on that. And if
Speaker 1: it would be haven't inherent need to experience a new
Speaker 1: physical whatever reason I chose, the relationship would end at
Speaker 1: that point. So what if a guy was in a
Speaker 1: relationship with the girl, maybe the intimacy was slacking in
Speaker 1: that department for a little while, so he was out
Speaker 1: one night and saw a girl and instinctually was like
Speaker 1: I need that does it? And then he goes back
Speaker 1: pure physical and he's like, I did this, but it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, you're you're not fulfilling my needs in
Speaker 1: that department is that somehow I'm the girl now because
Speaker 1: if you conversely say that with the guy with like
Speaker 1: the girl being like, you're not giving me the romance
Speaker 1: or the you know, both situations, they should be communicating
Speaker 1: with the other person if you're not getting what they
Speaker 1: need physically or emotionally. I agree. That's why I agree
Speaker 1: with the idea that girls cheat more often, probably because
Speaker 1: of the emotional side of it. Having said that, I
Speaker 1: just don't agree that like it's eating more easily to forgive.
Speaker 1: Cheating emotionally is much worse than, my opinion, cheating physically,
Speaker 1: and they'll define that. I think if a guy grant,
Speaker 1: neither of them are good. But if a guy is
Speaker 1: dating someone goes out as a one night stand, comes back,
Speaker 1: communicates that clearly to his girlfriend whatever, that's not as
Speaker 1: bad as if a guy and a girl are dating,
Speaker 1: and a girl then emotionally latches onto someone else while
Speaker 1: she's has a boyfriend and continues to profsue a relationship
Speaker 1: emotionally with someone else. That's worse in my opinion, because
Speaker 1: then you're investing time, you're investing feelings, you're investing emotions,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. So you would rather have somebody just
Speaker 1: cheat the one night physical part of it, rather than
Speaker 1: like have a two month long emotional connection with somebody
Speaker 1: and being like, I'm really second guessing my relationship a
Speaker 1: thousand percent. Yes, Okay, I gotta feelings on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess so much talk. I'm just gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and like observe what you guys are saying. I don't, okay,
Speaker 1: I understand everyone is saying. I agree that if a
Speaker 1: woman is cheating, it's because there's something in the relationship
Speaker 1: that UM is not being met to her needs. At
Speaker 1: that point, I think they thin she should communicate what
Speaker 1: her needs are. I don't think anyone should ever go
Speaker 1: to um lasting on onto someone else, either physically or
Speaker 1: mostly to find those needs. But I do like DNA thing.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't much rather be speeded on physically because that's
Speaker 1: like a one nice thing, just like the most of
Speaker 1: attached to it. Then if my boyfriend was mostly invested
Speaker 1: in another girl, I don't know, because then I couldn't
Speaker 1: get the picture. Like if I have a girl cheating
Speaker 1: on me, I don't know if I'd get over the
Speaker 1: image of her physically being with somebody. That would be
Speaker 1: very difficult. For me, like anytime I'm even next to
Speaker 1: her being like somebody else was. Yeah, but if you
Speaker 1: have to choose, if you have to choose, you'd rather
Speaker 1: her have an emotional connection, because women like when we
Speaker 1: like you like people hard. You'd rather her have someone
Speaker 1: that she cares for deeply, as opposed to someone I
Speaker 1: says like I just needed to bank someone tonight. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a tough question, but I might actually prefer the
Speaker 1: emotional one for the simple fact that, like, if they
Speaker 1: go out and cheat and actually have sex with somebody else,
Speaker 1: I think the relationships over at that point. Anyway. That's
Speaker 1: another male female distinction there, I think, because men that
Speaker 1: have put sex it's such a bigger deal to us
Speaker 1: for them to physically boost someone else. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think men put more of
Speaker 1: a premium on sex than females. I think, so cranky,
Speaker 1: do you know that? I don't know. It's just some
Speaker 1: guys are just hard, hard wired to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: to just cheek to just hook up with girls. I
Speaker 1: guess well. I mean, as long as you're self aware
Speaker 1: about it and not in committed relationships, then you're okay
Speaker 1: doing it, right, I guess I think I think that
Speaker 1: men and women at a certain point need to get
Speaker 1: it out of their system. I agree with that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I know I'm a cat. I know I could be.
Speaker 1: I know I will be a great mother, I know
Speaker 1: I'll be a great wife. But I think for the
Speaker 1: guys that I dated, for them, it's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to be with someone who is a cat
Speaker 1: because I just want to go out and have fun
Speaker 1: and and so it hasn't worked out with people, with
Speaker 1: the people that I've dated because they weren't ready to
Speaker 1: commit to that level. You can't be a catch if
Speaker 1: you're not willing to be caught, right, But I am
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Speaker 1: Caitlin just posted a video. Okay, we're talking about that
Speaker 1: all I just wanted. So when we were on air
Speaker 1: Case and Caitlin Bristow, we were talking about her breakup
Speaker 1: with Sean earlier, how sad it is. She posted an
Speaker 1: Instagram story with her punching a punchy bag to whatever
Speaker 1: doesn't kill you makes you stronger, What doesn't kill you
Speaker 1: makes you stronger? I think that's a song, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it was you that was singing it. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll say it. It's Does it not seem like it's
Speaker 1: directed towards a million percent Sean? I've thrown a lot
Speaker 1: of percents today. They've all been north a ten thousand.
Speaker 1: What is Sean known for his gym? Oh? Well, I
Speaker 1: didn't put it together together like that either. I think
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's going through public breaks up and then
Speaker 1: and things like this kind of allow for more support
Speaker 1: from outside people, which is great, Like what doesn't kill
Speaker 1: you makes you stronger. Obviously she's saying like, Okay, look
Speaker 1: I'm gonna grow from this. I'm gonna be stronger from it.
Speaker 1: And she's gonna have people like supporting her and be like, look, girl,
Speaker 1: you got this. You're absolutely right, And that's that's exactly
Speaker 1: what she needs. If that's what she needs, that's what
Speaker 1: she should be doing, you know, totally. But it definitely
Speaker 1: directed at the breakup. Like I don't know if the
Speaker 1: punching the bag, Like Sean's not the punching bag. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying punching bag. It's just interesting that his whole
Speaker 1: thing is you know, physical just because just because he's
Speaker 1: a fitness instructor means that Caitlin can't go to the gym. Now.
Speaker 1: No one's saying that. It's like saying, it's very interesting
Speaker 1: that you would post a video to that. It makes
Speaker 1: me think song which is obviously about the breakup. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's really second guessing that. It makes
Speaker 1: me think of for getting Sarah Marshall when Jason Segal
Speaker 1: goes to Hawaii. Oh I can't go to Hawaii because
Speaker 1: Sarah Marshall's heard of Hawaii. Oh I can't go to
Speaker 1: the gym now because my ex fiance owns a gym.
Speaker 1: You also understand that, like, alright, fine, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about it more. But I just think that if
Speaker 1: you post something that's obviously a day after the breakup,
Speaker 1: everybody's going to take it as the breakup, and the
Speaker 1: more it could have been anything could have been her
Speaker 1: driving if after like Christine and I ended things and
Speaker 1: I went to get my teeth cleaned and I posted
Speaker 1: my teeth getting clean because she used to be a
Speaker 1: denial higgenist with that song over it, then maybe it'd
Speaker 1: be like a little bit telling of what doesn't care
Speaker 1: it makes me stronger. But the fact that she's at
Speaker 1: the gym doing like what you do at the gym,
Speaker 1: it just like I think it's appropriate, you know. But yeah, everything, Christina,
Speaker 1: we put Blake on the spot about this, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember if we've already asked you about this. Did
Speaker 1: that weird you out that they like hung out or
Speaker 1: talked or whatever? You see? Yeah? So, actually I was
Speaker 1: in Denver, I think at the same time as them,
Speaker 1: the first time they hung out, and people kept coming
Speaker 1: up to me at the bars and they're like, they're like, Dean, Dean,
Speaker 1: Christina is here. I was like, oh, cool, that's great.
Speaker 1: Uh and they're like, yeah, she's with Blake. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about I was like, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: happy for them. And this was before we went to
Speaker 1: Vegas altogether. And so I texted Blake because we're all
Speaker 1: in group chat together. I got some fun number and
Speaker 1: I texted him. I was like, Hey, I've heard some
Speaker 1: rumors that you and Christina are talking. Whatever it is,
Speaker 1: I just won't let you know, Like, I don't want
Speaker 1: it to be weird between us. If you make her
Speaker 1: happy and she makes you happy, I'm incredibly happy. For
Speaker 1: both of you, and I can't wait to meet you
Speaker 1: in Vegas. Met him in Vegas and we like talks
Speaker 1: about a little bit. Um. It doesn't weird me at
Speaker 1: at all. Like I've hung out with like a few
Speaker 1: times now. He seems like a great guy, so it's
Speaker 1: not like it really weirds me out. But what's funny too, is, um,
Speaker 1: I guess Leslie is in a new relationship as well,
Speaker 1: which is obviously great for her. I like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I like, I'm not gonna sit here and be like,
Speaker 1: oh I I want the worst for them. Like if
Speaker 1: Christina is happy that with Blake, fantastic, that makes me
Speaker 1: incredibly happy. If Leslie's happy with this new guy that
Speaker 1: she's dating, incredible, that makes me just as happy as
Speaker 1: if I was able to make out of the mate,
Speaker 1: which maybe necessarily wasn't the case. But it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's pretty funny, especially like Blake Blake
Speaker 1: in response to that message that I sent him after
Speaker 1: um the pre Vegas when he was like thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Like obviously he's grateful because it would have
Speaker 1: been kind of weird, you know, Like obviously Christine and
Speaker 1: I had a pass um, but there's no bad blood there.
Speaker 1: There's no bad blood in my opinion, between Leslie and I.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Leslie. I don't know. There was like
Speaker 1: some article and I posted about it on the help
Speaker 1: us Out, a dating Facebook group. Yeah. Well, since I'm
Speaker 1: a narcissist, I have Google alerts that every time my
Speaker 1: name gets mentioned in an article, I get an email. Well,
Speaker 1: of course I'm what people are saying about me. She
Speaker 1: mentioned my name in an interview where they interviewed her
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we saw you post a
Speaker 1: picture of a guy's legs, and she was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she kind of like talks about me for
Speaker 1: a second. You don't have an alert for your name, Vanessa,
Speaker 1: and you don't for your name Jared. No, I don't have.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to set that up. I
Speaker 1: will say it's student about a month ago. It's either
Speaker 1: going to Google Google alerts. I have one for my
Speaker 1: last name. My uncle Rick is the head of public
Speaker 1: works in Wallsaw, Wisconsin. He's the only thing that's ever
Speaker 1: come up. Are you serious your name you gotta put
Speaker 1: in as well? Will you do one for Vanessa Jared?
Speaker 1: And so that when they get pressed, we know, and
Speaker 1: then we can harass them about it right here on
Speaker 1: the shower. No one cares about me anymore, so there's
Speaker 1: not going to be anything about my life. That's probably true.
Speaker 1: Oh that is not true. Just kidding. Um. Anyways, do
Speaker 1: we want to take an email before we wrap up?
Speaker 1: Or now? No? Okay, perfect, there we go. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you said that because I really need to use the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone else is able to get out there too.
Speaker 1: You are you gonna vote? Everyone already did three weeks
Speaker 1: ago by mail? See, I kind of I want to
Speaker 1: go to this to the polling stations just so I
Speaker 1: get the sticker. You know a lot of people say that,
Speaker 1: and I respect it. However you want to do it
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Speaker 1: got a Sports Center up date. The sticker comes to
Speaker 1: the absent TV yet, But I want to be able
Speaker 1: to put it on my chest and walk out of
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Speaker 1: I will say this is the first time I've ever
Speaker 1: voted in my life. I'm a little embarrassed to say,
Speaker 1: but I'm willing to come out right out and say it. Yeah,
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