WEBVTT - #55 We All Have Our Flaws 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.240 Here we go. Everybody read it. Bring us in, Mark, 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:06.280 Let's do it. Hell I Suck at Dating with Dean, 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:12.400 Vanessa and Jared and I heart radio podcast. Hello everyone, 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.760 thank you for tuning in on another episode of help 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.880 I Suck at Dating. I'm Dean Anglert joining studio by Jared, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:22.680 Mark Easton and Vanessa on the phone, going on Happy 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.040 election week everyone, How the heck are we We're great, 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.200 We're wonderfully Can it be a big week? Are you 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.080 voting tomorrow? I am voting tomorrow? And if you're listening 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.080 to this tonight on Monday night and you're not rich, well, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.720 I guess it's kind of tilgiter not in every state 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.760 you can regiter at the polls. About half a dozen states. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.040 There you go. Thank you Mark for being our stage 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.159 word at all times. Registered to vote and get out 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.240 there and vote. Remember that, Remember that p Diddy uh campaign, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.440 like maybe a decade ago, Vote or Die. We need 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.279 something like that to come back. I remember the oh 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.080 eight one where it was like all those celebrities that 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.800 came out and one montage was like Dicaprion George clue 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.000 A talking about like well you know, if you if 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.600 you don't care about women's rights, don't vot, or like, oh, 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.600 if you don't care about the climate, don't vote. I 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.039 know Leo made a video this year as well. He's like, listen, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.520 this is the biggest election of our lifetimes. And that's 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.320 the case. It's true. Jared just told me who was 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.440 voting for um before jumping on, And I mean, while 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.640 I don't agree with it, I appreciate his right to 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.679 get to the polls and vote. So I'm voting for Easton. Yes, exactly, 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.759 Thank you. I really need this right now, exactly. Um, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.720 I wish Canadian politics with this interesting. Well, I don't 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:32.399 think you do. Have you seen Trudeau's socks? I really 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.200 don't think you want that for yourself. Um. We have 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.039 a topical episode today. We're basically gonna be talking about 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.360 current events. And when I say current events, aside for voting, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.720 I basically mean celebrity couples. Yeah. I think we should 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.280 start off with Bachelor Nation news. This past week, a 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.280 really tough breakup happened between a very two wonderful people, 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.200 Caitlin and Sean. They got engaged back in two thousand fifteen. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.000 I think of season eleven of the Bachelorette who's my season. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.400 Sean ended up winning. They've been engaged for about three 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.520 years and they finally call it quits, which is really 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.720 really crappy. It's just hard seeing a break up anytime. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.200 Anytime there's a breakup, it's really sad. But I think 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:10.920 within the public eye and Caitlyn and Sean, I think 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:12.960 we're a bachelor couple that we can all agree everybody 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.800 kind of idolized a little bit and looked up to. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.920 For me personally, anytime somebody asked me about the bachelor 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.280 experience and like can it work? Is it real? I 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.560 would point to different couples. In the first couple I 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.840 always point to would be like Caitlyn Sehn. Those two 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.160 are very much in love and very happy. So it's 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.800 definitely a sad day. Well, this is an interesting at 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.080 least tie in that we all have together because you 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.440 were on Caitlyn season, Vanessa, you and Caitlin are friends, 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.840 and I've never been either of them, so I can 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.919 come into this situation on bias and give my opinions 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.680 on what idis But like, i'd love to hear your like, Vanessa, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.720 what do you think about the whole Caitlyn sewn break up. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.480 So it's hard for me to talk about this kind 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.799 of stuff just because I want to respect their privacy 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.799 and I know how hard it is to go through 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.720 a public breakup like that. I mean, mine is on 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.239 a different level because Nick and I were engaged for 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.760 under a year and they've been together for three years, 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:05.239 so of course the pressure from I guess fast or 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.600 nation and people who have known them naturally the next 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.799 step was for them to get married at least, and 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.920 everyone dies, but you never know what happens behind closed doors, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.359 and so for me, it's hard to hear people's comments 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.040 on well, Caitlyn wanted to be famous and he wants 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.240 to settle down. It's like stopa with the rumors that 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.760 you think is actually happening, because it's mostly all both 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.720 and you don't actually know the truth. So um, again, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.200 it's it's their story to tell and them. I don't 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.200 want to get into it. But Caitlin is a friend 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.680 of mine, and for some people it might sound weird 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.920 because Caitlyn and I did save the save guy. Um, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.760 but m an amazing person and has an amazing heart, 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:51.280 and I only with the most greatest things for her 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.160 in her future. And in her love life and and 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.600 all of that. But um, listen, I think what ends 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:03.640 up happening is people just you know, sometimes people can 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.600 just fall apart, and relationships take a lot of work, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:13.160 and especially coming out of the franchise, it's I guess 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.320 if I'm going to speak on my behalf, Like for 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.200 Nick and I, it wasn't it was an engagement. Did 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.080 it feel like an engagement. No, it felt like two 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.800 people getting to know each other in a very unrealistic 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.920 world living in the real world. So it was hard 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.799 sometimes to compartmentalize, like, Okay, we're engaged, but we're also 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.159 like trying to figure things out and you know. Um, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.200 so I think it was a smart move for them 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:43.039 to figure out what they wanted and before moving into 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:48.600 bigger things like getting married and then not ending up together. So, um, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.480 it does break my heart because I know how much 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.120 they do love each other, and it breaks my heart 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:59.599 seeing two amazing people not being together. And um, yeah, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.760 I guess it's really sad because just because they broke 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.200 up doesn't mean that they weren't in love. They were 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.600 madly in love. Vanessa. You saw it. I saw it, 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.000 And it's that's the hard part because I think a 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.960 lot of people, like you said, state their own opinions 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.240 and judgments on the situation even though they don't know it, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.159 and they immediately go to, oh, they were just in 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.280 it for fame. I knew they'd break up. I knew 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.800 they'd never last, and it's like, well, I hate to 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.080 break it to you, but that was a very real 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.760 relationship and they're very much and while it ended, that 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:29.520 doesn't make it any less um real, um, And that's 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.280 why it's sad. And Vanessa brought up an interesting point 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.920 where you talked about how you didn't feel like you're 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.159 engaged to Nick because it felt like you guys, you know, 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.800 everything is kind of crazy in that world and it's 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.000 very overwhelming. But I think even Sean said this after 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.960 we left Caitlin season, where he said, you know, I 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.720 fell in love with her on the show, but we 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.920 really didn't start dating until after the show. And I 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.560 think that happens within a lot of couples, and so um, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.240 I agree with your point on that one. But Dean, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.200 as an outside perspective, not knowing Caitlin nor show, I 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.000 don't know either of them, never met either of them. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.880 I've heard incredible things about Caitlin. Um, she's obviously university liked. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.960 It seems like in the Bachelor franchise of yet to 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.400 come across anyone that has any ill fate or words 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.719 to say about either of them, Um, just Caitlyn. I 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.400 guess it's just more of the uh well known. But 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.120 between the two of them and people that say that 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:19.280 they were in it for fame, I think is a 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.680 little ridiculous because if they were in it for fame 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.680 and they didn't actually love each other, they probably wouldn't 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.240 have let the relationship in a lot as long as 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:30.680 three years. I will say that they had like. From 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.960 what I've read and what I've I've kind of gathered 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.360 in is that Sean never wanted to get married in 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:35.960 the first place. He loved Caitlin but never wanted to 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.719 get married, and Caitlin wanted to get married. So obviously 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.800 we don't know the details of why they split. I'm 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.600 sure that was a point of contention in their relationship 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.440 to the entire time. I don't follow either of them 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:45.840 on social media, but every once in a while and 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.080 the Discover page Caitlin's picture will pop up with her 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.440 like with her like tongue out like, oh I wish 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.159 Shawn would just marry me already. And it's like, okay, well, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.000 are you guys gonna get married? Do you want to 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.240 get married? Why do you get it? Why did you 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.919 propose to her if you're not gonna marry her? And 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.680 now it's like, is that going to be the thing 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.159 that rips the relationship apart? Because it's like I said, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.000 it's it's one thing to love each other, but then 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.039 it's also another thing to want to give each other 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.720 what the other person wants. But listen, it's I mean, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.560 I don't I don't know what you know. I don't 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.560 know the gate that story, but I'm just elaborating on 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.760 what a point that you brought up sing If you're 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.560 going on the show and you're getting engaged, then that's 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.720 the next steps forth getting married, right, and then why 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.600 would you propose to someone? Right? Right? No? I agree, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.440 I think this begs another question about how long an 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.040 engagement should last. We talked about that on the podcast before, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.920 but even earlier this year. I remember because I follow 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.760 Caitlin on on Twitter, and I remember somebody was She 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.640 retweeted something about how like somebody was badgering her about 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.600 but not being married yet and like what's taking so long? 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.040 And she answered it back and saying that they were 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.080 going on their own time. But I think that's why 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.640 when to speak personally. When actually and I got engaged, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.360 we knew that like within the next couple of months, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.120 we really wanted to start planning a wedding and figure 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.280 out our next stop in a life. And and that's 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.400 not for everybody. But having said that, I agree with 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.600 you guys where if you get engaged, you know at 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.120 some point you have to start planning for a wedding. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.160 I don't know if Sean wanted to get married or not. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.880 I don't know if Caitlin wanted to get married. I 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.560 don't know the inn workings of that relationship, but um 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.720 yeah it did. It's it's sad when the announcement happened 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.000 because I think everybody can kind of see it coming. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.560 There wasn't even an article written a few months ago 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.760 about how Caitlin addressed it on our podcast of why 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.280 they weren't posting together were they still together? Um, so 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.240 it's you that makes me so sad. It makes me 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.080 so sad that being and I get it. We're on 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.400 a show we were known to uh, we're known because 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.240 of the dating world that we're in and all that, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.800 but it also makes me so sad that there's a 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.560 lack of privacy when it comes to like our our 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:54.200 romantic life. And so if you're having a down, you know, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.840 if your relationship is not as great as it used 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.040 to be maybe a month ago, because relationships go to 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.000 her ups and downs, just like you have to prove 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.599 yourself to the world and be like you have to 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.160 explain yourself. I will say that's kind of our own fault. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.079 Though not only do we sign it for the show, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.080 because it all depends. There have been people on the 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.240 show that have kept their relationship in in romantic life 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.760 private and there have been very prominent figures on the 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.079 show who have gone and gone in relationships that a 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.960 lot of people don't know about. It was just you know, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.240 like us with the podcast, we talk a lot about 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.400 our dating life. Obviously, Caitlin hosts a podcast and Sean 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.719 does his his physical training um that he very much 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.800 promotes in social media and is something that I need 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.160 to get into because I really need to start going 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.319 back to the gym. That's a different topic altogether. But 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.760 it's definitely sad because I think with Caitlin and Sean, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.880 it was just a very rootable couple that everybody wanted 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.680 to see together, and besides any bachelor couple that has kids, 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.040 I think it might be the most heartbreaking breakup. So 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.760 then what's next for both of them? Because you saw 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.640 Caitlin's bachelor at They've been engaged for three years, and 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.080 now what do they do to get to move on? 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.160 You know, it's like Caitlin going to just continue trying 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.160 to date new people. Is she gonna go back? I 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.160 don't think it'll be. I don't think it'll be hard 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.640 for Caitlyn could get anyone. She's like a well rounded 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.040 individual and like, but that's it's not hard for you 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.080 to get anyone, but here you are single. So I 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.880 think for me it's different though. I mean, and I 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.840 think at one point I was just like I was 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.720 making the wrong decisions when it came to the people 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:23.240 I was dating. Um, But I haven't, like, no worry 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.280 about Caitlin's dating life. I mean, I don't haven't worried 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.920 about Sean either, But I'm not saying I'm worried about that. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.320 I'm just saying what is what are the logistical next 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.920 steps for them? Like they's gonna have a three year engagement? 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.280 Are we going to see Caitlin posting a picture with 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.199 a guy in six months? Is Sean going to jump 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.240 back in? Is he going to live the bachelor life 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.640 for a while? If I was to assume, and obviously 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:44.880 we all make an ass out of you and me 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.760 whenever you do that, But if I had to guess, 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.280 I would say Sean would probably um. From an outside perspective, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.480 I could see Sean dating someone quicker than Caitlin. I 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.240 could see Caitlin taking a little while break being on 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:59.160 our own single um, But that's just a complete gut instinct. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.760 Who the hell knows? I almost kind of disagree with you. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.839 And again this is based on no knowledge of the 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.480 two of them personally. But Sean seems like he's so 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.600 caught up in his job that he doesn't have the 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.240 time to Okay, And I'm going to stop you. I'm 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.680 going to stop you because whatever you see on social 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.280 media is not real life. Guys like you don't know 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.880 the story. You just don't know. And I'm not even 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.560 talking about Stan, I'm just talking about like in life 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:26.160 in general, you don't know what is actually happening in 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.959 someone's heart, in someone's life, like in someone's head. You 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.160 just don't know. So yes, I'm sure he's very much 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.160 devoted to this, to his new his new business and 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.800 all of that, but like I just I don't know. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.560 Maybe I'm just like overprotective about this breakup through it. Yeah, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.599 I went through it, and I understand like people in 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.200 midticking and like trying to just like understand and then 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:53.320 and try to figure out why it happened or how whatever. Um, 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.680 but you just don't know the story, right, Just all 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.680 I'm doing is telling the story for myself with the 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.240 information that I've been given. And I'm just saying it 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.800 seems like if in this scenario that she would be 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.360 have the ability to move on faster because he seems 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.840 very uh, work obsessed, which is not a bad thing. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.720 So I'm not saying any I'm not taking anything away 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:19.400 from She's really dedicated to her podcast too, though. That's great, right, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:25.080 Sure they're both like working really hard towards alright. Well, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.680 so are either of them ever going to date in 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.920 Bachelor Nation? Again? Absolutely not. There's no way Caitlin goes 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.800 back enough franchise and I I could never see Sean 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.640 going back in there too. Sean struggled through our She's 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.679 in Bachelor, Yeah, it was. It was just hard for him. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.800 You know. He was very madly in love with Caitlin 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.959 and he was seeing her date all these different guys 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.120 and he felt like he was the one from very 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.600 early on, and I think she did too. But you 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.320 have to go through the process and figure it out, 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:49.760 and so I think that really took a toll on 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.520 him as to I don't I don't just don't get 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.920 why it can't be just us, And I think, you know, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.880 Sean opened up a little bit on the bach Chorette 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.240 about his his parents and family life, and I think 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.880 he was just very much I didn't want to be 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.880 dating a girl who's also dating other guys at the 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.600 same time. Having said that, that's what you signed up 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.120 because we listen, we all can we all agree that 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:10.760 we all sign up for the show for the experience 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.720 and then hope something great front Consummer, but we certainly 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.160 don't expect it, Like did any Vanessa, did you really 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.560 go on next season? In the batch? I think you're 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.880 going to get engaged to Nick file I didn't think 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.920 I was going to get engaged, but I definitely was 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.559 hoping for a connection for sure, but having of course. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.360 But I also never saw any of the previous seasons. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.200 I had no idea what the show was about other 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.880 than handing out roses. I had no idea what I 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.000 was getting myself into. But for sure I was walking 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.040 in because I'm a hope was romantic. You've never seen 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.200 a single episode of the show before going on the show, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.040 and yet you decided to blindly sign up for it 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:48.199 and just trust the magical producers. That be bad preparations people. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.360 I'm sure people who have watched seasons at the show 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.360 had no idea what they were getting themselves into two 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.040 and they thought that they could have you know, they 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.200 thought they probably knew that what they were doing throughout 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.720 their season, but no, they didn't. I can only speak 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.720 for myself and on the show. I fully never expected 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.559 to make it that far. And then when we were 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.080 there filming, that's when I started investing in getting feelings 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.760 for this girl. And that's when I was like, holy crap, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.320 I am actually getting jealous of other guys and this sucks. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.240 So but I didn't nearly have the connection that Sean 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.000 and Heard did, so I can only imagine that level 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.840 of it. I will say I saw a couple episodes 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.640 of Caitlin season. I remember. I remember seeing Sean and 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:24.600 I was like, he kind of looks like a poor 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.240 man's around gosling and I was watching it with my buddy. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.080 He looks he does. He walked in and I was like, well, 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.200 this night's over. I'm gonna be honest, I don't remember 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:32.560 you in that season. I remember a little bit of 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:37.240 Nick and his in his ruffy little afro. Ha. Yeah. Um. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.520 So that's my first kind of experience the whole Bachelor franchise. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.960 I obviously it sucks, as we've kind of beat the 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.560 dead horse with this already. It sucks to see a 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.960 couple's breakup. Um. I would imagine they probably have been 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.120 broken up for a while and they just decided finally 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.040 announce it publicly. Um, because that seems to be the 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.360 obviously that the way to go about it. And now 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.320 logistically like that, I know that they live in Nashville. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:57.840 I wonder if they're both going to stay in Nashville. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.480 One's gonna go, you know, wherever they go. So it'll 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.080 be interesting to see how that kind of all unfolds. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.320 But obviously we wish nothing but the best, totally two 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.680 incredible people. So there's I'd be lying if a little 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.560 part of me hope this, hopes that they find each 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.760 other once again. What if? What if Caitlin goes back 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.200 to Nick. I mean he got second, he got second 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:22.440 on her season. We're moving, There's no way. I don't 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.680 think they're just so there's such different people. Yeah, even 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.680 back then, opposite the tract they do, they don't. Nick 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.280 and I were complete opposite. Are you and Caitlin the 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:41.160 same person? Caitlin and Yeah, Calan. I love Caitlin. I 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.840 love hanging out with her. I mean I love hanging 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.520 out Jared. But I wouldn't necessarily say that we're the 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.000 same person. No, but yeah, we love hanging out. I'm 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.680 not saying. I'm not saying Caitlin and I are the 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.240 same person. I think we just like. I'm just saying, 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.840 I love this is a story of it. I love 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.560 giving love a second chance when it doesn't work out. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.840 Maybe she could go and revise her pick and maybe 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.800 make the decision to I think that ship is said 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.040 so second to first, second to first, Now he's anyway, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.920 and well Fix Times a show. So you guys know 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.040 I'm in Toronto. I don't know if you guys follow 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:17.560 me on Instagram. I'm so I'm here with While we 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:23.000 were here for the sixth Foundation, it was me, Danna, Jayson, Blake, Um, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:28.040 Alexis and who else came into town and not forgetting 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.600 someone Ascid and Kevin Um. So we're all here for 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.560 the sixth Foundation and Um. First of all, I didn't 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.440 want to highlight before I talked about what I want 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.320 to talk about. The women that were throwing themselves at 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:47.520 Jason and Blake in sanity shock you. Well, it's talking 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.960 because as a woman coming out of the franchise, guys 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.000 don't throw themselves at us. So I've never really and pressed. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.840 When I was with Nick, women wouldn't throw themselves at 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.920 him because he would engage to me, so because I'm 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.040 not to me, but he was just games. So I've 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.159 never really experienced it. But wow, it was overwhelming. I 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.280 don't know how you guys handle that now. Those two 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:08.760 are a Jason and Blake are two of the most 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.880 eligible bachelors in the country, you know, and in Canada. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.560 It was yeah, yeah, I was gonna. 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