WEBVTT - BA Q&A: I'm Drowning In Debt!

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<v Speaker 2>That's some respect on our names.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. So we're gonna answer some money questions this week.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. First one's from Shana.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my husband and I had My husband had a

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<v Speaker 1>stint of medical issues in twenty twenty one. He's better,

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<v Speaker 1>we are grateful for that, and has insurance to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the time he had no insurance. We are

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<v Speaker 1>now drowning in medical bills. His credit score has gone

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<v Speaker 1>from good to fair. Do you have any recommendations on

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle them. Well, we don't have enough cash

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<v Speaker 1>flow to pay them all, right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so tough. And I mean the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>like it sounds like his medical condition, his medical issues

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<v Speaker 2>happened before he had insurance. And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>just like yay America, just putting our citizens into debt

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<v Speaker 2>by no fault of their own. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that medical debt, especially when it's from a hospital, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say before anything, just be aware of your rights

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<v Speaker 2>and be aware of your options. I have had family

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<v Speaker 2>members successfully get on the phone with their hospital and

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<v Speaker 2>be put through. If they're super low income, they have

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<v Speaker 2>like charity care options for potentially you may have some

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<v Speaker 2>of your debt forgiven or if not all, or be

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<v Speaker 2>reduced or be put on a payment plan. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the worst thing you can do is just ignore

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<v Speaker 2>it and let it accrue and then you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're drowning. But actually, like contact the hospital and say,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the situation. I do not have the cash flow,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot afford these payments. What can I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, Like there's as specifically if they have a

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<v Speaker 1>financial assistance policy. I know for a fact I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what is in other states, but I know because

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine used this back when we were

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<v Speaker 1>in college in New Jersey. They call it charity care.

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<v Speaker 1>To Mandy's point, so ask they might have that even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not eligible, people, can you can still negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>your bills that I did this, so I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know I was aglergic a black hair dyed.

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<v Speaker 3>But now I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And my face blew up like the movie The Mask,

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<v Speaker 1>Google the Mask movie, not with Jim Carrey, like the

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<v Speaker 1>one would share, and my face literally all this liquid

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<v Speaker 1>formed underneath my skin, and it was it was scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. So I luckily lived down the

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<v Speaker 1>street from the hospital. I actually was born on Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's in Newark. And I walked up the street. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom was like, go to the emergency room, and I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and because I had no money, so I was scared

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, so you'd rather just pass away in your sleep? Okay, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>So I walked up the street. They basically it was

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<v Speaker 1>an alluxury action. They gave me the equivalent equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>benadrill in liquid form and then sent me to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the pharmacy with a subscription a prescription in Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>it was literally for benajul Off the shelf. I was

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<v Speaker 1>pissed because that prescription cost me a couple hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>So all together it was like I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I owed like maybe twelve hundred dollars in that one visit,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was like freaked out about. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any money, so I called them and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got it down to eight hundred dollars, which

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have, but I was able to at least

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<v Speaker 1>start paying on it. So I say all that to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the truth is I probably did qualify for

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<v Speaker 1>charity Care, but I didn't know at the time to

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<v Speaker 1>apply for him. I just called the hospital directly that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it, can you help me? And they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, well, we can do this, and I said, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Key is like using that phrase charity care.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>There was this like viral TikTok. I remember at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the I keep saying the recession, the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>there was this TikToker I think his name was Jared something,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was going viral because he himself had gone

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot of medical issues and had so many

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<v Speaker 2>bills and now it's his whole mission, Like he has

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<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit or he started one helping people, helping advocate

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<v Speaker 2>for patients to apply for charity care and actually help

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<v Speaker 2>them apply and that there sometimes is an application, and

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<v Speaker 2>like how to navigate that process. And so I quickly

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<v Speaker 2>found his website that he started. It's called dollar four

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<v Speaker 2>like the word dollar and then for and right on

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<v Speaker 2>his site, you know, we crush medical bills. You can

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<v Speaker 2>click get help and go through the little tool the

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<v Speaker 2>last where the bill came from. It's not a bad

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<v Speaker 2>place to start, you know, but at least knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>your options may be. And you know, if you're truly financial,

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<v Speaker 2>this is I mean, bank medical debt is like the

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<v Speaker 2>cause of the majority of bankruptcies personal bankruptcies in the US, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a shame because you may not have to

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<v Speaker 2>let it get to that point if you have these

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<v Speaker 2>other options out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for one thing, don't do, Shane, Please don't put

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<v Speaker 1>it on your credit card because then it goes from

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<v Speaker 1>medical debt to credit card debt.

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<v Speaker 3>So just keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody who's listening, but Shane especially and remember that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as urgent as of your other bills. And to

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy's point, there's nonprofit help, so there's also a dollar four.

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<v Speaker 1>And also consider it's called the National Foundation for Credit Counseling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nonprofit and you can share with them what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through and they can help you navigate that

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<v Speaker 1>process as well. And these are nonprofits, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>by yourself. This is a really good question. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know we've ever answered a medical that question. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you asked it, Shane, And so we wish you well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're glad that your husband is better now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to make sure your finances are better now too.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to mention really quick too? You mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>credit or just like putting it on credit, But medical

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<v Speaker 2>debt it's not that in terms of like, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she mentions her husband's credit how it's gone from good

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<v Speaker 2>to fair. But haven't there been some recent changes to

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<v Speaker 2>how credit scores are calculated that medical debt or unpaid

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<v Speaker 2>medical debt or paid off medical debt is not as

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<v Speaker 2>big of a factor in your credit score anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, according to c NBC as of July first of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, your medical debt may no longer hurt your

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<v Speaker 1>credit score anymore. So it's not unpaid medical debt, because

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<v Speaker 1>certainly if you're behind, you will have to pay, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you've paid off medical debt, that was sometimes weighing

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<v Speaker 1>down your score. So if you've paid off medical debt,

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<v Speaker 1>the three largest credit briuros, TransUnion, Equifax, and Experience are

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<v Speaker 1>removing cleared medical debt from consumer credit reports beginning July first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. So we've passed that time, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which is good news.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I mean, you know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Paid it off, which is great. But yeah, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you you'll have more time before. Unpaid medical debt also

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<v Speaker 1>is reported on your credit report, so typically it's increased

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<v Speaker 1>from let me see, what does it say, unpaid medical

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<v Speaker 1>debt that is currently in collections for one year were reported,

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<v Speaker 1>so before it used to be six months, like twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>the law was six months. You know it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be reported now they're going to give you a whole

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<v Speaker 1>year to be behind. So that's actually really good too,

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<v Speaker 1>because they understand that medical debt is not as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of you being financially irresponsible. Yeah, and then starting

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three, according to CNBC Equifax Experience, TransUnion

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<v Speaker 1>will also no longer include medical debt and collections under

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars on your credit report.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's good too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say that this is definitely those things

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<v Speaker 2>where you should be on top of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know that you have paid off some debt

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<v Speaker 2>and it's still like, check your credit reports once a year,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of which isrobody check mine. I haven't done in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, But check your credit reports and if you

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<v Speaker 2>still have medical debt there, then I would say, get

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<v Speaker 2>some records and keep the records of it, like ask

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<v Speaker 2>your hospital or whoever the debt collector whatever the age

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<v Speaker 2>and see is get that letter that says that it's

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<v Speaker 2>been settled or paid off or whatnot. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>show that to the credit reporting agencies and see if

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<v Speaker 2>they can expedite or you know, if they haven't actually

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<v Speaker 2>taken it off your records yet, be like, hey, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a CNBC article and you're supposed to do this, here's

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<v Speaker 2>my proof what's happening. Because I think that's some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sometimes what happens is like the there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>lag between when something should be happening and when it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually happening. Definitely be on top of that, and Shana

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<v Speaker 2>please keep us, you know, updated on what happens, what

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<v Speaker 2>you guys decide to do. Feel free to send us

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast on Instagram. Take a quick break, yeah, and come

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<v Speaker 2>right back with a question from a listener who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to know about private student loan debt. Let's do it

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<v Speaker 2>all right, va fan, We are back with another one

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<v Speaker 2>of your questions. This question comes from listener Kim, who

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<v Speaker 2>hit us up on ig. Kim says, Hey, Mandy and Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a new listener to your podcast. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>all you do. Your podcast is everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>My dilemma is with Navian shake my head. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>paying five hundred and twenty five dollars a month on

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty one thousand dollars loan from two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>seven that is now has a current balance of thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand dollars. My balance isn't going anywhere. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>guys recommend a great company that I can refinance my

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<v Speaker 2>private loans with? When she said private, it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I was like, well, she said refinance, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, we don't recommend around these parts.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About ruh, no, no, no, we don't recommend over around

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<v Speaker 4>here refinancing your federal student loans, especially you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>that moratorium save plenty of lives.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you have federal loans.

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<v Speaker 1>That means when things happen with the economy at large

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Potentially can have assistance. It's an aid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll know by August thirty first whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not there's going to be an erasure of some student

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<v Speaker 1>loan private I mean federal student loan debt by the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. So there are protections that are in place

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<v Speaker 1>for federal student loans, and you cannot refinance with the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. So if you were finance a federal student loan,

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<v Speaker 1>you were financed out of federal protection into a private loan.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what's happening here. Like this is great,

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<v Speaker 1>So we just want to make sure that like you're

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<v Speaker 1>under Like what advice for giving to Kim is because

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<v Speaker 1>she's going from private to private, not private to federal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and let's be clear too, people who have private loans,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether that's credit card debt or a personal loan

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<v Speaker 2>that's not being or an unsecure loan that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>fixed it doesn't have a fixed rate, or a private

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<v Speaker 2>student loan, you know you're susceptible to those variable interest rates.

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<v Speaker 2>And with the Fed increasing rates, debt is getting so

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<v Speaker 2>much more expensive. So I think this question is really timely, Kim,

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<v Speaker 2>because if people out there you have private student loan

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<v Speaker 2>debt and you haven't refinanced it yet because rates are increasing,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, check your rate and see how much more

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and then definitely shopping around to see if

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<v Speaker 2>you are eligible to refinance. So just in a nutshell,

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<v Speaker 2>when you refinance, you are basically getting another lender to

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<v Speaker 2>cut you a check for the debt that you owe,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you owe a new debt to that lender.

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea is that you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>lower interest rate, so it's going to be less expensive

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<v Speaker 2>debt than what you had before. Sometimes you can negotiate

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<v Speaker 2>other terms like maybe if the term of your loan

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<v Speaker 2>you to have it paid back and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years, maybe you can refinance it and they'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you twenty years, which will make your payments smaller. That

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<v Speaker 2>being said, when it comes to student loan refinancing, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the important thing is to understand you can shop

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<v Speaker 2>around and compare rates, So, just like any other kind

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<v Speaker 2>of loan, that's my first thing. I would recommend you

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<v Speaker 2>can go to a website called student loan Hero. There's

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<v Speaker 2>also credible dot com. These are two student loan marketplaces.

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<v Speaker 2>Full disclosure, I used to work for I managed the

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<v Speaker 2>content team behind student loan Hero. But they are one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best. Okay, But they have a marketplace where

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<v Speaker 2>you can search for especially lenders that'll let you get

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<v Speaker 2>pre approved or pre qualify, which means they'll do like

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<v Speaker 2>a soft pull which won't go on your credit report,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll give you like an example of a

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<v Speaker 2>rate that you may get that could help you Just

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<v Speaker 2>shop and compare different lenders and just make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you know exactly what you're getting into.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean so, yes, refinancing is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be I don't know what Navviance interest rate is. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one rule with refinancing is make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>get a lower interest rate, but make sure it also

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I would also compare because Naviant should have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of statement that says, this is how much

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<v Speaker 1>you end up paying in the end if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you continue to pay whatever your minimum payment is. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would also compare, like how much more because Samanda's point,

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<v Speaker 1>you might go from twelve years to thirty years, but

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean you're going to attack on another ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars on your loan? So first and foremost, can

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<v Speaker 1>you get a lower interest rate, but then what it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to cost you overall, and then you just decide

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it's worth the cost and then mosey

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<v Speaker 1>on over Also too, make sure you're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a house or a car anytime soon, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be your hard pull when you finally

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<v Speaker 1>decide to move forward with whatever. So make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any other need for your credit in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few months, like major need like a house. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't want to you know, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>you're I don't want your realtor cussing us out, like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>The hell, that's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they excuse me. My name is Becky,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kim's realtor, and on August fifteenth, you gave some

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<v Speaker 2>shitty advice.

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<v Speaker 1>So just be mindful of that because sometimes people don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Because oftentimes people are trying to get their student loans

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<v Speaker 1>together because they want to purchase like a home or something,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great. So if you're six months to a

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<v Speaker 1>year out or whatever, fine, But if it's in a

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<v Speaker 1>few months or a few days, not fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So just keep that in mind too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to think what else she should look

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<v Speaker 2>out for. You know, be clear on whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>you want to fixed rate or a variable rate. Variable

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<v Speaker 2>means that can go up and down. Right now, fix

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the way to go because of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the FED is continuing to raise rates or it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like they may. What else, you know, starting I

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<v Speaker 2>know that right now you're feeling like thirty seven thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this balance is not going anywhere. If you can,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can get to a place where you can start,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, contributing more to the loan, looking for additional

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<v Speaker 2>sources of income. I mean that's the way to chip

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<v Speaker 2>away at a much faster I know it feels overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 2>but increasing income or finding additional streams of income, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like the real That and being able

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<v Speaker 2>to reduce your your rate obviously, those are the two

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<v Speaker 2>best ways to tackle that student loan debt, the private

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<v Speaker 2>student loan debt as soon as possible. But you're not alone,

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<v Speaker 2>miss Kim, and thank you so much for sending your

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