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Speaker 1: Hello, my husband and I had My husband had a

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Speaker 1: we are grateful for that, and has insurance to them,

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Speaker 1: but at the time he had no insurance. We are

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Speaker 1: now drowning in medical bills. His credit score has gone

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Speaker 1: from good to fair. Do you have any recommendations on

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Speaker 1: how to handle them. Well, we don't have enough cash

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Speaker 2: of your questions. This question comes from listener Kim, who

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Speaker 2: guys recommend a great company that I can refinance my

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Speaker 4: here refinancing your federal student loans, especially you know, like

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Speaker 4: that moratorium save plenty of lives.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you have federal loans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean so, yes, refinancing is probably going

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Speaker 2: I'm Kim's realtor, and on August fifteenth, you gave some

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Speaker 1: So just be mindful of that because sometimes people don't think.

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