1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold, Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Of course we are here on Steelers Nation Radio. And 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: as soon you started to showing, get an unknown caller 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: call as usual, somebody from Colo, Iowa. Colo. How about that? 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm never heard that. Yeah, I've never heard of that sound, 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: so I'm sure it doesn't matter. But anyways, Matt, it's 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: it's the list time of year. As you went to 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens mid round, pick Charlie Kohler from Iowa. He maybe, yeah, 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: maybe he's calling you. Uh, but Matt, I found the 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: I found a thing on CBS sports dot Com ranked 13 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the head coaches, uh top thirty two head coaches in 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the league, and so I thought we'd go over that 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: here to start the show today. Uh. That's always interesting. 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: It always gets people talking. And this was by Cody 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Benjamin on on the CBS Sports dot Com ut two 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: to one or one to thirty two, it's thirty two 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: two one. Actually they do it the way we would 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: do it. That's why we do it. Number thirty two 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: on their list. This is kind of rush rough on 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: this guy. The new guys I don't think count here. 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: They have Lovey Smith at thirty two. Oh, that's that's 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: an ouch because he's been around the block. I means 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: seven career record, so he's got a winning career record, 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: he's been to a s's coach the team to a 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. As saying he's been to a Super Bowl 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: can't be. He can't be thirty two. He can't be 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: thirty two. No. I mean, frankly, the guys have never 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: coached in the league before Smith, and they are all 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: incomplete or whatever. Or I would I would drank four 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: coaches or include Josh McDaniels because I've seen him be 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a a coach. But this isn't like college where you 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: watch a quarterback and projecting the pros. If he's never 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: been a head coach before, he can't be ranked. And 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: you also can't just put Lovey Smith at thirty two 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: because you think the Texans are the worst team. It's 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: sold the words out of the mouth. I mean it's 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: not boy, You're not gonna win any games year, so 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you're the worst coach in the league. I do believe 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree with me or not, 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: but I think Lovey Smith is just a placeholder there 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: until Josh McCown is ready or frankly, it looks better 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: in the public eye, you know, to give him a job, 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, with the Rooney role situation and the Lovey 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Smith's just kind of a culture builder, placeholder and really 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: is a defensive coordinator. But he's not a bad coach, No, 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: he's again, He's got a winning career record in twelve. 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: This is his twelve season as a head coach. Right, 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: that's great, you know. I mean, so if Josh McCown 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: becomes the head coach next year, he would kill to 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: have a winning record over twelve years, you know. So 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: the thirty one they have met ebra Flus. I'm sorry. 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: I can't put Matt ever Flus ahead of Lovely Smith. 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I just can't. None of the incomplete guys. I can't 56 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: and I don't understand Lovely at thirty two. But let's 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time, I guess on the new hires. 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Who knows being a defensive coordiners much different than running 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: an organization. At thirty he has Dan Campbell, and I 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: think that's harsh. I mean, he's new, he's but I 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: think that team has done positive things since he's been there. Yeah, 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: But the bottom line he is eight eight twenty and 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: one is as a head coach. So he is. Oh 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: I forgot he was an inter him. Yeah, he was 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: an inter him as well in two thousand fifteen with 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: the Saints. I think. Yeah. At twenty nine is Arthur Smith. 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't a good first year. It was okay. I 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: think they won more games than I thought they would. 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: They won more than their talents suggested. Yeah, I think 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: they were what seven and nine? I think seven and 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: ninten Yeah, yeah, and that of what we think might 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: be the worst roster in the league right now, they will. 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: They will get the seven wins this year. I don't 74 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: think so, But I like the higher at the time. 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a little bit of a credence to that. 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: At twenty eight is Matt Rule. Now, I'm sorry, but 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: Lovely Smith is a better coach than than either one 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: of those two guys. Matt Rule would kill to have 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: a career like Lovely Smith has. I mean, he's teetering 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: on the edge of getting fired. Yeah, he's the far 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: and away the shortest odds in Vegas right now to 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: be the first guy who fired. Yeah, he'st He's ten 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: and twenty three in his first two seasons. Number twenty 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: seven is Robert Sala Mm hmm. Well where it's it's 85 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: it's tough because they they don't have a good roster, 86 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: at least didn't last year. If they don't take a 87 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: night step forward, I mean at least six wins, no 88 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 1: longer a garbage team this year. I'll probably be pretty 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: harsh on Solo. Yeah, I agree, number of times for 90 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: him and his quarterback to take a step forward. Number 91 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: twenty six is Dennis Allen. Super well respected. I think 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: he has a stint as a head coach somewhere. He's 93 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: eight and this is gonna be his fourth year. Three 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: previous times as a head coach he had some of 95 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: that was you know in New Orleans. Some of that 96 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: of course with with the Raiders as well. He's got 97 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: a winning percentage that sounds so great. I mean, by 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: all accounts, he's well respected in the Saints organization. Was 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: an easy hire to bump, you know, go from Peyton 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: to him and people have faith. But you can't dismiss 101 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: that track record. But that's pretty bad. Is Josh McDaniels 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: at first and he's getting eleven and seventeen career record. 103 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I will say this though, that that it 104 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: seems like he's favoring some of the offensive guys over 105 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: the defensive guys. Yeah, I guess you're right. Um, I 106 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: think I would really It isn't probably fair, but I 107 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: would hold it in the positive column for McDaniels. That 108 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: he's turned down some jobs. You know, he's been sought 109 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: after for a while. Doesn't mean he had been good 110 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: at them, but he you know, he's been a hot 111 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: name for a long time. Yeah, he probably should have 112 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: taken that Colt's job. Yeah, he'd be in a much 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: better spot. Yeah. Uh, then he has the new kids 114 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: on the block ahead of all those guys and Eberfluss. So, 115 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how you so he's got Kevin O'Connell 116 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: at twenty four doesn't have much of a track record. 117 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's thirty seven, thirty seven years old, three 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: seasons as a coordinator. I don't know if he can 119 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: coach or not. He even called plays with the Rams, right, 120 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's well respected and was drafted 121 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: by the Patriots in the third or fourth round or whatever. 122 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: But we'll see. Uh, he would be a total incomplete 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: for me. Number twenty three is Nathaniel Hackett. Similar, very similar. 124 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Uh. Number twenty two is Brian Dable. I 125 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a good head coach. I mean, 126 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: never meeting these people. Of course, this is tough, but 127 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: he I think was overqualified to become a head coach 128 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: when he did. But it's still new, right. Twenty one 129 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: is Mike McDaniel and I don't I don't know, man, 130 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I mean, I I've not been impressed. 131 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I've been around him and I'm just not impressed. And 132 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: he may be the smartest guy in the room, and 133 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: that's great, it doesn't always translate into leading a football team. 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he comes across as a very high i 135 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Q guy, But that doesn't mean you're the general with 136 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: fighting the army through the mud, you know what I mean. Like, 137 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting hired and I'm putting its 138 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: positive spin that I can on it. Yeah, I agree. 139 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: But what's odd, though, is those first five or six guys. 140 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Basically the nature of the article is saying these guys 141 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: are terrible coaches because they're below guys. Yeah, right, right, right, right, 142 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: I just know that. Yeah, a little rough on him 143 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: to right, Yeah, Um, I don't know. Okay, So now 144 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: we're into the guys who are kurt who have been 145 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: head coaches before. Okay, I think now it gets kind 146 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: of serious. I mean we're fighting over things below. Number 147 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: twenty has Todd Bowls. Okay. I'm a little biased because 148 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: Todd was our defensive back coach when I was the Browns, 149 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: and I have a lot of faith in him to 150 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: do just fine, especially in the situation that he inherited 151 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, which is phenomenal. I mean, Brady's really 152 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: the leader anyway, but Todd was pretty rough with the Jets. Yeah, 153 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: he had one season with more than five wins in 154 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: five years with the Jets. Yeah, I mean we get 155 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I think he's a decent, pretty good coach. I think 156 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: he got the most out of that Jets roster, and 157 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they have much talent. And I think 158 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: if we're having this conversation next year at this time, 159 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: he'll probably be He'll probably be somewhere in the top 160 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: ten because the Buccaneers will have had a good year 161 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and will be a playoff team suddenly Todd Bowls. Wow, 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: he's really good. Look at what he did with that team. Okay, 163 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: right exactly. I mean I almost feel the same way 164 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: about Robert Sala too, Like being the Jets head coach 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: in that market with a losing environment isn't really the 166 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: best chance of success, No, I get I agree completely. 167 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Number nineteen. This is rough. Ron Rivera, that's rough. That 168 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: poor guy has had to be like owner, GM, psychologist, 169 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: head coach, play caller. You know, they put a lot 170 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: of things on his plate in Washington, in one of 171 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: the most dysfunctional environments in the league, and he's made 172 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: it respectable. I mean, it's better now than when he 173 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: got there. But he's one of my first hires. I 174 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: don't think so. But boy, he's dealing with a disastrous 175 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: situation pretty absolutely. I agree Number eighteen. I do kind 176 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: of agree with this one. Mike McCarthy, That's about what 177 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: i'd happened too. Yeah, I mean, if you want to 178 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: talk about you know, people will get on Mike Tomlin. Well, 179 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: look at his playoff record. That Mike McCarthy's ten and 180 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: nine in the playoffs. He had Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, for 181 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: all those years, and I'm not exactly sure what his 182 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: forte is too, Like he came up as quarterback, whisperer, 183 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: offensive play caller, but now he doesn't even do that 184 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 1: in Dallas, you know, I mean that is what's his 185 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: face more. I haven't seen innovative or new things from 186 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: McCarthy in a long time, you know, and maybe ever 187 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: maybe ever, right, I'm not quite sure. I don't quite 188 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: get it. This one I agree with as well. This 189 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: This is actually a good ranking for this guy. Seventeen 190 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: is Brandon Staley. Yeah, you hope the arrow is pointing 191 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: up if you're the Chargers. But if I can only 192 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: go after what I know to you know, as from 193 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: what I saw last year, absolutely right, right, and boy, 194 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna be somewhere different this time next year. 195 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: The Chargers missed the playoffs, I don't care. If they're 196 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: you know one, you know, the fifth tiebreaker away and 197 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: they don't go to the postseason, he's going to be 198 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: lower on this list. But if they're converting fourth downs 199 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: and are winning the the West while then he's gonna 200 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: be the new Whisk in the FC Championship. Everybody, We'll 201 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: look at this is this is how you do it. 202 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: Brandon's Daley didn't but the year before it didn't work great. 203 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: It's sixteen, is Nick Sirianni have a strong feel for 204 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: him to be on I don't. I don't either, although 205 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: I will give him credit for coming up with an 206 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: offense that fits Jalen Hurts. That's not easy to do. 207 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: She switched on the fly. Like if we were covering 208 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles all pre season, we would have been talking 209 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: about we wouldn't have been talking about a run central team. 210 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean he did that a month or so into 211 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: the year. Around his personnel, I just feel like he 212 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: kind of fell into an environment that was already set 213 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: for him and he's paddling the ship just fine. But 214 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: that is a good point, yea. That goes back to 215 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: the old you know, Mike Tomlin or Bill Cower one 216 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: with the previous coaches players. Every coach does coaches right, Yeah, 217 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: uh fifteen. I can't argue with this one either. Zacher 218 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: I maybe even be lower. I don't know if he's 219 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: a good coach or not. Pre Borrow I think he'd 220 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: be thirty Yeah, I mean he was basically if he 221 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: had been with another franchise he probably got fired. Yeah, 222 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: in after the first two seasons. I agree with that, Yes, 223 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: because they were just off. You know, his second season 224 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: they earned the first overall pick, his first in his 225 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: first season there, his first season there, they weren't much 226 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: better and he didn't take over a franchise. I mean, 227 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: they had been around a five team with Marvin Lewis 228 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: a head coach. No, they weren't as downtrotten as people 229 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: like to remember, and they were really bad for a while. Yeah, 230 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take a lot for him to 231 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: be considered the whiz kid, you know, I don't think 232 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I think people kind of see through what's going on 233 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: there at fourth team is Cliff Kingsbury, he'd be lower 234 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: from me. Yeah. If you remember when we did this 235 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, that was on Pro Football Focus, correct, 236 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: there is a Football Siders that and they had him 237 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: second right. That was ridiculous, ridiculous. It's funny. I heard 238 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: the Mike Combardi's podcast after that and they asked him 239 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: that direct question and he almost like spit his water 240 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: out on the air, like, oh my gosh, you know, 241 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: like he's closer to being fired than he is being 242 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: second in the League. Since he's second nobody, nobody, I 243 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: can't I can't argue with this from the next one either. 244 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Thirteen is Kevin Stefanski agreed it's funny. We had a 245 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: conversation my podcast today of who are some teams that 246 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: look like good teams that could have an utter collapse? 247 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: And the Browns with the obvious answer, But I mentioned 248 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Dallas and a couple of teams that I'm not super 249 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: high on the coach. And I just think Stefanski Coach 250 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: of the Year two years ago, and he probably would 251 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: have got my vote that year or you know, runner 252 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: up or so. But I don't know that he's gonna 253 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: handle the rough waters, and the waters are rough. The 254 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: waters are very rough. Absolutely at twelve is Frank Reich. 255 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I think he leaves a little to be desired. I mean, 256 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: like if he got fired to get picked up next week, 257 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think he's probably over the 258 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: hump where he's probably a head coach as long as 259 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: he wants to be at this point. But everyone just 260 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: wants to blame Wentz for them missing the playoffs. Unna 261 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: blame one, Yeah, right. Riich is one and two in 262 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: his four first four seasons. In the playoffs, so he's 263 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: only gotten them there twice. Yeah, pretty good teams with 264 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: with a pretty good you know, a pretty good roster. Yeah. 265 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I think their GM in front of office is strong. 266 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: The one thing about that team that's crazy though, they 267 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: have a new quarterback every year. Every year. Yeah, they've 268 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: now become the Broncos. Yeah, right, I mean as soon 269 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: as Luck retired, it's been every year. Eleven is Doug 270 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: Peterson probably, I mean everyone calls them the professional in 271 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: the room. He's got a super Bowl title, didn't have 272 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: an overwhelming resume when he got hired by the Eagles, 273 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: but seems like a stabilizing force, typical lifetime backup quarterback. Like, right, 274 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: is there any difference between Doug Peterson and Lovey Smith. No, 275 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I think they're kind of 276 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: the same guy. Like, Okay, they were pretty good coordinators. Uh, 277 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, they they're if you're they're your head coach, 278 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: you're okay, right, they know what they know what they're doing. 279 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: You know, they've both been in Super Bowls and you know, okay, 280 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: but hired love Be would say, well, he's been around 281 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: the block. He's gonna establish culture, you know, good stuff, 282 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: but he's not probably the long term. Yeah, it goes back. 283 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: I think he was pretty rough on Lovey Smith. Number ten. 284 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: This one would probably get a lot of push back 285 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of places. But when you look at 286 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: the playoff record, it's not that great. Mike Frabel, I 287 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: mean you sucking top ten. I don't know that anyone 288 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: should be offended. No, but I've seen a fan. I've 289 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: seen a lot of people have him much higher on 290 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: their list. He's forty one and twenty four in his career, 291 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: which six thirty one. That's not that's pretty good. Playoff 292 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: records two and three and they were the one seed 293 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: last year in a bad division. That division has been 294 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars and Texans over the last few 295 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: free years have been bad. You're close to guaranteed four 296 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: wins a year. There's not many teams in the league 297 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: that can stay say that. Um I mentioned you know 298 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: teams that might crater this year. I could see Tennessee 299 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: crater ring this year too. Yeah, I mean that that 300 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: roster is getting a little thin. Yeah yeah, Clive Tannehill 301 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: and Henry both look old, and Burks isn't ready and 302 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Woods is fighting an injury like I could get bad. 303 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: This number nine is another one that I might actually 304 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: have lower. The guy's in a sixth season as a 305 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: head coach. He's got a thirty nine and forty two 306 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: career record. Kyle Shanahan. I think Kyle Shanahan is very 307 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: good as a coordinator. Yeah, I don't know that he's 308 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: a good head coach. I don't either. I don't think 309 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: he's a good GM slash team builder. And he's the 310 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: biggest stick in that building that's not Lynch. I mean, 311 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: he has the power. I think if you would ask 312 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: all thirty two head coaches who's the best offensive mind 313 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: in the who's the guy? He probably be him. Yeah, 314 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: Who's the guy you don't want to scheme your defense 315 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: against him? Him? Yeah. But I don't know he's a 316 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: good head coach either. And multiple sources have told me 317 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: that part of it's because he's so high in himself 318 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: and sort of rightfully so. But he thinks he can 319 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: do it with any player, and he kind of treats 320 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: them all like robots. And I don't think that flies. Yeah, 321 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. Number eight is Pete Carroll. 322 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: I was wonder when his name would come up because 323 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm starting to believe that he's I don't say lost it. 324 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: That's not respectful enough for some of these guys, but 325 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: he is not. Really Remember the end of the Chuck Olire, 326 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: you know, the game's passed him by, or the end 327 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: the Landry Year. You hear these things, I'm starting to wonder. 328 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you gotta throw the ball a little 329 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: bit more. You can't just run fifty plays a game. 330 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't two thousand or nineteen, and you 331 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: do have to change a little bit with the times. Yeah. Uh, 332 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Number seven Matt Lafleur tremendous. I see it regular season, 333 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: two and three in the playoffs, Yeah, I'm not gonna 334 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: kill him for two and three. You know, Rogers has 335 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: not been great in the playoffs. They've had they've lost 336 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: games their favorite and I get it. But we also 337 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: talked about how hard it is to win the playoffs. 338 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: It's only five games. You want two of them. His 339 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: record is remarkable, you know, and he's respected. I had 340 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: a hard time giving him credit, but I don't know 341 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: that anyone we mentioned i'd have over him. Yeah. Yeah, 342 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: Number six Sean McDermott, I agree, Yeah, I think he's 343 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: a pretty good coach, I do. Yeah, back to McDermott 344 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: real quick. And this is actually a Flores thing is 345 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: when they were quote tanking, like the year they got 346 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: rid of Robert Woods before Josh Allen was there, dumping 347 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins and you know, inherited an awful cap situation. 348 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: They made the playoffs. They had no business getting in there. 349 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: But I mean that was one of the problems with 350 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: Flora's was he won too many games with my aunt. Yeah, right, 351 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: couldn't take it off the owners, right right? That gets 352 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: that gets us into our top five. Okay, which we 353 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: probably can figure out. But yeah, number five. John Harbaugh Strong, 354 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Fame. I mean, you've 355 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: sat in those Hall of Fame rooms. Do you think 356 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: he gets in? Um? I think eventually. I think there's 357 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: it's still a little bit more work to do. Um. 358 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: But I mean he's won thirty seven and eight his 359 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: his career record. Uh, this is your fifth team for him, um, 360 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: so not quite ten games per season, he's just under that. 361 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: He's eleven and eight in the playoffs, which is very good, 362 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: very good. A super Bowl again, eleven and eight. That's 363 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: the thing. People don't understand an eleven and eight record 364 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: for a head coach in the playoffs is remarkable? Is outstanding, right, 365 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean there's two facets of that. First off, you 366 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: played nineteen playoff games, which is pretty awesome, and you 367 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: won more than you lost. I mean, if you win 368 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: more than you lost in a sample size more than 369 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: five or six, wow, that's impressive stuff. Yeah. Anything or 370 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: round five hundred for a head coach in the playoffs 371 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: is really good. And the call of Famer guys. Yeah, 372 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Number four Mike Tomlin good. I think that's just um. 373 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: I would put Tomlins slightly over Harrorball, but I think 374 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: they should always kind of be linked or they're always 375 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: gonna be linked together. Yeah, how do their records compare? 376 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Tomlin has one five and two, so he's got a 377 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: sixty three winning percentage. Hardball is six o nine. Wow. 378 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: I thought they'd be a little closer. And of course 379 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: Tomlin eight and nine in the playoffs, one on one 380 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: in Super Bowls, which again isn't as bad as it sounds. 381 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: I mean, five hundred if you've played years seventeen eighteen 382 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: games in the playoffs is pretty darn good. Number three, 383 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: this was gonna shock you, Bill Belichick. Is he losing 384 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: a little off the fastball too? I don't know. I mean, 385 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: some of these dorky spreadsheets I've been looking at lately 386 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: are pretty impressive for the Patriots. Like their offensive numbers, 387 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: yards per play um, percentage of turning drives into points 388 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: are near the top of the league. And they didn't 389 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: have any playmakers, and they're always awesome on special teams. 390 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: They win in the margins, they don't lose games. And 391 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: I go back to two years ago or even last year. 392 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a playoff roster, and they weren't 393 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: a good playoff team. But he got him in the 394 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: year before Brady left and won the Super Bowl in Tampa, 395 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: and all the Patriots, you know, hung it up because 396 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: of COVID. They all rested the year and he won 397 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: seven out of six teams. But we're talking about top 398 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: five here. Mean, so you're kind of splitting hairs right, right, right, 399 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: And I think everyone just puts him in. You know, 400 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: any other coach goes essentially sixteen and sixteen the last 401 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: two seasons, which is basically what the Patriots have done. 402 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: They've been a five team the last two years. You'd 403 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: probably say, okay, that that coach you know, probably not done. 404 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: It's probably not done his best job, right, I mean 405 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: separating GM Belichick and coach Belichick I think is different stuff. Yeah, 406 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: J Belichick because I think bad now, which is hard 407 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: to say. Number two, Sean McVeigh, I get it. I mean, 408 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Pace just won the Super Bowl, He's 409 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: won a lot of games. What's his wedding percentage? He's 410 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: and twenty six. That's a six seventy nine, seven and 411 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: three in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I think it's 412 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: long enough stretched to say that's not fluky. Yeah. Now 413 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: he's solid, and that leaves us Andy Reid number one. 414 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Is Andy read your number one head coach? Now? Now 415 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: people need to remember, before Andy Reid got Patrick Mahomes, 416 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: Andy Reid had a losing record post in the postseason. 417 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me he's now nineteen and sixteen, one 418 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: and two in Super Bowls, a couple of Andy Reid things, though. 419 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: He got the most out of Alex Smith before my 420 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: Homes took over. I'm sure they don't mention this, but 421 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: I bet I can almost guarantee it's either him or 422 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: Belichick has the best record. Verse Division foes. I mean, 423 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: he just I'm not sure if it goes back with 424 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: Eagles days, so maybe I stand corrected. But since he's 425 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: been the Chiefs head coach, they lose like one game 426 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: a year in the division. And yeah, this is now 427 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: his tenth season in Kansas City. Uman, he's like eight 428 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: losses in the AC West. Really, you really almost have 429 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: to look at Reid's career record is two different entities. Yeah, 430 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because let's all forget what people thought of 431 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: him in Philly too. Was boy, great offensive mind, really likable, 432 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: eats a bunch of steaks, but can't manage the clock 433 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: to save his life. Yeah, you know, like that was 434 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: his reputation. If you had one guy to game plan offensively, 435 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: we're you're taking Andy Reid. Are you taking Kyle Shanahan 436 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Shanahan Okay, yeah, I mean they're both up there. People 437 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: rape about Sean Payton too, which you know that he's 438 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: one of the guys everyone studies every year. Yeah, I 439 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: think I'm taking Shanahan, especially if I have a Mac 440 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: Jones like quarterback, you know what I mean, I just 441 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: have a guy there or picking her Tramisky year, you know, 442 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody That'm not sure about. I think the 443 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: foundation of Shanahan's running game is really strong base to 444 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: go off of. Yeah, I can't disagree with that. Kind 445 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: of a pivotal year for Reid though. I mean, they're 446 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna change how they're play on offense this year and 447 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll see how that how where that takes them right right, 448 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: that is going to do it. For a first segment, 449 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk. I know we're done, but one last 450 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: read note. I meant to say this about his Eagle days. 451 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: He won a lot of games with Kevin Cobb that 452 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: you know, guys that aren't good. You know now, he 453 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: certainly did that. But we're gonna take a break. He 454 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're listening to 455 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back 456 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: with more right after this