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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's the almost famous The Ogs podcast. Bob

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Speaker 2: Guiney here joined by my lovely co host, the very

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Speaker 2: godmother of the Bachelor franchise, Trista Sutter, and today we

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Speaker 2: are very excited.

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Speaker 3: We are joined.

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Speaker 2: It's our Special Forces edition episodes, and we are joined

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Speaker 2: by a former Bachelor Nation superstar. I say Ali manno

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Speaker 2: neee Ftatowski in the spirit of how I say Trista

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Speaker 2: Sutter nay Wren.

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Speaker 1: So we are so.

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Speaker 3: Excited to have Ali on.

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Speaker 2: I have personally not seen Ali since we did our

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Speaker 2: Was it US Weekly or People magazine?

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Speaker 3: The Favorite Bachelors of All times? Spread?

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Speaker 1: It was either US Weekly or Life and Style.

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Speaker 3: I think it was US Weekly. Then, yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: I probably I probably could conjure up a copy and

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Speaker 2: I'll pop it up on the screen.

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Speaker 3: But very excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the room that has all of the Bachelor

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Speaker 2: uh propaganda mem mesh that it just might be something

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Speaker 2: I could grab.

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Speaker 3: But we're very excited.

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Speaker 2: Ali came onto Special Forces with a force, no puns intended,

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Speaker 2: and we are very excited to have her on. So

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Speaker 2: let's bring her in ladies and gentlemen, Ali Mano, Nay Fedatowski,

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Speaker 2: Hi Alli.

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Speaker 4: Thcom, Thanks, how are you great?

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Speaker 3: Now to see you.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you. We've been I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, but we've been talking to some of the

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Speaker 1: recruits and we got to talk to Q earlier. This week,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking to Rudy, Bob, I thank you. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can't be there, but Rudy and Billy will

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Speaker 1: be on. So we're trying to get, you know, everybody

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Speaker 1: to come on and talk about the experience because it

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Speaker 1: was you know, very I don't know what would you say,

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Speaker 1: intense and so, but what I want to get to

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Speaker 1: initially is that I, you know, everyone wants to know

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Speaker 1: I feel like and I want you to be able

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Speaker 1: to explain what happened in your experience when you had

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Speaker 1: to leave the show, because you, as with me, as

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Speaker 1: with everything, you only get to see like a teeny

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Speaker 1: tiny part of what actually went down. And so I

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Speaker 1: want you to be able to share your truth and

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Speaker 1: talk about your exit on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you guys have talked about so

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Speaker 4: far on here, but like the it's just so mind

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Speaker 4: boggling and just saying, no, you get this so much,

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Speaker 4: how little like they show and how easy it looks.

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Speaker 5: As a viewer, like totally I remember watching.

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Speaker 4: Not easy, but I remember watching like the first season

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Speaker 4: in the second season and being like, why are they

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Speaker 4: like crying like it's there's not that hard now, And

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Speaker 4: then now that I've done it now, I'm like, oh

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Speaker 4: my gosh, you see nothing right, Like you know, we'll

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Speaker 4: get to the finger thing, but like the bee hive

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Speaker 4: when we were in that pool treading water. The way

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Speaker 4: I described that to like my husband Kevin and my

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Speaker 4: friends when I got home was like, it was so terrifying.

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Speaker 4: It was the scariest moment of my life. I thought

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Speaker 4: I was going to drown. I thought other people were

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Speaker 4: going to drown. It was so physically hard. And when

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Speaker 4: I watched it back, I was like, that looked like

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Speaker 4: nothing and it was so horrible, And so yeah, I

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Speaker 4: want people, I guess like when they're watching, to keep

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Speaker 4: in mind, like you keep seeing people like I noticed

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Speaker 4: on the show, like Landon Donovan. You know a professional

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Speaker 4: soccer player who's like clearly had some very physically grueling

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Speaker 5: The boat to shore. He's like, it's not gonna get

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Speaker 5: harder than that, right, get harder than that?

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Speaker 3: And that was and you know.

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Speaker 5: Minutes we were there. So yeah, I guess everyone watching

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Speaker 5: just like, keep in mind the show is so much

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Speaker 5: harder than it looks. I guess to say.

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Speaker 2: That, but I will say this, I think it looked

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Speaker 2: obviously you know, I don't I don't talk to you

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Speaker 3: We haven't talked in a few years.

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Speaker 2: But I know you, you know, and I feel like I

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Speaker 2: these people go through this stuff, and I'm just like

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Speaker 3: And Ali, you, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you looked like you were gonna literally

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Speaker 2: you could have taken down Cam Newton in a given

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Speaker 3: You look so strong she was.

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Speaker 5: When they sent me home, I was like, who do

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Speaker 5: I need to fight? Like, I don't care how broke

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Speaker 4: I was like, I was like putting me in part

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Speaker 4: of Camp Newon, like that's how I got so first,

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Speaker 4: thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 3: You look so fit.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I wanted to say this too real quick.

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Speaker 2: What a difference between watching and again, we've interviewed him.

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Speaker 2: So I don't mean this in a bad way, but

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Speaker 2: interviewing Stephen Baldwin, you know, in the way that he

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Speaker 2: left the show and then you're like, no, I'm not going,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so I'm so excited to see where

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Speaker 2: they pick up because I don't feel like they've I

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Speaker 2: feel like they teased you leaving.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming you know.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm gone. I mean, that's it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm just gonna say I actually left

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Speaker 4: the morning of the third day. I didn't relieve the

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Speaker 4: night of the second day. So it's a little confusing

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Speaker 4: just probably needed, like you know, to end the show

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Speaker 5: But I did. I did spend two nights there, no.

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Speaker 1: One for sure for me. Yes, no, you can't take

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Speaker 1: away from that for sure. Ye say it, speak it.

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Speaker 5: I said to the producers.

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Speaker 4: I was pretty I was very upset the next morning.

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Speaker 4: I was upset with the medic I was upset with

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Speaker 4: the producers. I was upset all around, right sure when

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Speaker 5: I actually don't know exactly when I hurt my finger.

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Speaker 4: I always up until basically I rewatched the episode last

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Speaker 5: Get myself down? I actually don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just know what happened on that sometime during that

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Speaker 5: And I had a really.

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Speaker 4: I hate gloves kidding, I had some bad luck with

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Speaker 5: The helicopter challenge.

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Speaker 4: They gave me two left hand gloves, so one side

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Speaker 5: My hand clipping.

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Speaker 4: When we got our burgins, my are rucksacks or burgins.

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Speaker 4: the second challenge where everyone had like, Trista, your gloves

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Speaker 4: they were like fitted black gloves.

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Speaker 1: Right, they weren't fitted. I mean, my hands are super small,

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Speaker 4: But everyone said like or most people who I spoke

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Speaker 5: Like new black gloves.

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Speaker 5: So what happened when I come down? You see me

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Speaker 4: And go like this, And that's because all my fingers

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Speaker 4: that's what I thought the thing happened. So the medic

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Speaker 4: so the medic was coming in to check on people.

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Speaker 4: Poor Trista. I mean, you don't see this had a hypothermia.

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Speaker 4: There was some like really scary stuff going on, and

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Speaker 4: he's like, look you, there's a worst case scenario. I'm

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Speaker 5: So I go to bed that night.

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Speaker 4: I'm very upset at the thought of even getting medically withdrawn.

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Speaker 4: But I go to bed that night, you know, have

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Speaker 4: a horrible night's sleep, like we all do. What is

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Speaker 1: Mean, it's totally nothing.

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Speaker 4: And so then they wake us up with like a

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, it's terrifying.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Tristy, we woke up that morning

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Speaker 4: So then at that point they call us we have

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Speaker 5: Was so mad, Like trist Is all like, oh, I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm like, so I punched a steel door

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Speaker 4: I was okay, so my mid was broken. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I was so mad and the producers this is a

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Speaker 5: Five am before.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you were just done, I was.

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Speaker 5: I would like, get me so upset. I was like,

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Speaker 4: The producers to do a redemption season. I want a

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Speaker 5: If they do one and they don't include me, there's

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Speaker 3: Well, you are so scrappy. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Most people would have probably been like, oh, thank god,

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Speaker 4: So I don't want to undermine in any way in

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Speaker 4: It's like my body just isn't what it was when

442
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 4: I was thirty, you know, And I'm sure you will

443
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 4: say to me, my body is what it was when

444
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 4: I was, you know, like you don't know like you're

445
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: there were you know the O g's for a reason.

446
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 5: Like our parts exactly.

447
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's so for me, like I

448
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 4: just I really felt I was at the best shape

449
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 4: of my life. I know from here it's only you know,

450
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 4: going to be harder to get in the shape.

451
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: No, no, keep up your hard work.

452
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 5: I know that's the one thing I did get from

453
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 5: the show.

454
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 4: I will say, like I'm obsessed with like physical fitness now,

455
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: like I love pushing my body to the limit. And

456
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 4: that's just not who I was before. I used to

457
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 4: work out like painstakingly before because like I wanted.

458
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 5: To look good. You know, it was panity.

459
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to I want to look

460
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 4: good at my jeans, so I'm going to do squats.

461
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: Whereas now I'm like, I want to do squats because

462
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 4: I want to see how I want to do a

463
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: thousand squats and you know, ten minutes, can I do it?

464
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 4: Let's see, Like now my mindset has changed, like like

465
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: I have a pull up bar in my bathroom door

466
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 4: and my bedroom or am I bathroom that I had

467
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: there for the show because every time I walk into

468
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: my bathroom, I would like try to do some pull ups,

469
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 4: and I kept it there since the show because now

470
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 4: it's like I just randomly woild jump up on it

471
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: and like work on pull ups and like I love

472
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 4: that that, like love of fitness has stayed with me.

473
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 5: So I'm grateful.

474
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: That's awesome. You know, I think it was crazy, was

475
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: you know.

476
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: Trista had told me she's like, oh my god, wait

477
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: till you see Ali on the show.

478
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: She's ripped, and it was like it was you could

479
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: definitely tell that.

480
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: I mean, even when you guys were standing on parade

481
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: and I don't know why I noticed this, at one point.

482
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: There was like a side like swiping shot.

483
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: I think you guys were outside even maybe and you

484
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: were called to attention. You're all staying there, and you

485
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: were like rigid and like you were in it to

486
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: win it.

487
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: You could tell, you know, I remember that ang like,

488
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: oh my god, Allie's like great to kill somebody out there.

489
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: You were like, you know, I remember the whole sweeping shot,

490
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you know, and it's just

491
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: crara easy because you know, I feel like I know

492
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: everyone on that show, even though I've never met ninety

493
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: percent of them, and you can see that they're tired

494
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: at least maybe in the way that ith you didn't

495
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: even look You didn't even look tired to me, like

496
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: you looked like you were as you're ready to climb

497
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: another mountain. Let's go, you know, I'll do this, I mean,

498
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: And that had to feel so good because you know,

499
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 2: you're being pushed to the brink of your of your

500
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: physical and your mental capabilities.

501
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: It had to feel so good knowing.

502
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: That, Okay, they're not going to get me from the

503
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: physical side of thanks cause I'm doing it right.

504
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you had to feel that confidence.

505
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: I would think, thank you so much for saying that,

506
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 4: for you're welcome, that like means so much to me.

507
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I could, Like when we were in the

508
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 7: water and people were getting hypothermia, like I wasn't even

509
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 7: shivering half the time because I.

510
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 4: Had trained in a thirty three degree coal plunge every

511
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: single day months, Like I was my body.

512
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 5: I can't even explain to you, like what a machine.

513
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 4: And it was at that point in my life, like

514
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm not even close right now to where I was

515
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: then because of how I had trained, and I felt

516
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: so strong, Like you don't see but that that pool

517
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: episode where we're all in the pool doing the beehive,

518
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: everyone but five people went to the edge at some point,

519
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 4: right like because it was so difficult.

520
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: The people that didn't go to the edge was the Olympic.

521
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: Swimmer, the professional surfer Rody Jenner, who's essentially a professional

522
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: surfer like he served time. Christy Romano, which good for her.

523
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 4: She she kicked so hard she kicked a boot off

524
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: one of her book she did I didn't know, Oh

525
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: my gosh, what which I think ended up helping her

526
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 4: because she had one boot off then because those boots

527
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 4: when they can read.

528
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: Ready, Yeah, I guess.

529
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 5: That person was me.

530
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 4: I never left that And I can't even swim. I'm

531
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: a horrible swimmer. Like I just I really, I just

532
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: can't explain to you, like how you're like, thank you

533
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: for what you said.

534
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: And yes, I was in the top of life. I

535
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 5: was at that.

536
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: I was always in the front of the pack when

537
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: we were running. I just I was there. I always

538
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: said like like I joked after, I was like, could

539
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: someone just have Ronnie locked my finger?

540
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know if you know Ronnie Lock.

541
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: Football player who had his finger like cut off mid

542
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: football game.

543
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 5: It's actually my friend's dad.

544
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: Funny enough, no way, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't

545
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 4: know if you know my friend Willa, but Willa her yeah, yeah, yeah,

546
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 4: her husband is Ronnie Luck's son.

547
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that so funny.

548
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 5: But I'm like, why didn't they just Ronnie lock me

549
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 5: just cut it off? I wanted to say, and.

550
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 4: I wanted to be there so bad in the moment,

551
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: I was like willing to sacrifice my finger to say.

552
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 5: Like that's how I felt. Wow, I was like I

553
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: was crazy person.

554
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're crazy.

555
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. I think like Trista says, she

556
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: was driven too. I mean, you guys were just in

557
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 2: a different mind space.

558
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a goal. And when you're there,

559
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: if you truly want to be there, then you want

560
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: to be there. Like it's it's like, you know, you

561
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: want to go until the end. There. You know, there

562
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: are certain people who do this show in the past whatever,

563
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: and I feel like they just they come and they're like, Okay,

564
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: I need to stay for five minutes to collect my

565
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: paycheck and then I'm fine to go. But you know,

566
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: like you clearly clearly had a purpose and a goal

567
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: to get to the end, and to have that taken

568
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: away it's hard.

569
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 5: I would have given then my paycheck. I literally would

570
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: have been like, take all the money you're paying me

571
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: to be here and let me say. Wow, I love

572
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 5: that it was about.

573
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: Something that's saying something. Yeah, No, I totally get that.

574
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: What was the hardest moment, Well, never mind, we already

575
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: answered that what the hardest moment was maybe take away

576
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: the the finger in your exit. Prior to that, what

577
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: was the hardest moment for you?

578
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: It was the living conditions? Ah yeah, what I also

579
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 5: don't think people.

580
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: I think we, out of all the seasons, got completely

581
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 4: screwed with living quarters.

582
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: Our everything once smelled like manure.

583
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: Everything, Like I remember being in like the cars and

584
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 4: smelling my fleece and it just being manure.

585
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 5: Did you smell the manure? Twists up? Because Golden Tage

586
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 5: told me he didn't smell the manure. I'm like, that's

587
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 5: all I smelled.

588
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit. But I really truly think

589
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: that this is because you're smelling it, because it was

590
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: put in your mind, because didn't a producer tell you,

591
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: like right before that our room had been full of

592
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: two feet of manure, like two weeks before me after

593
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm like, well, maybe it was in your

594
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: head because it was planted there.

595
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: Maybe I have a good sense of smell because it

596
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: was like I remember pulling up to the place and

597
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: smelling the.

598
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: Fields around it just be like, oh my gosh, it's

599
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 5: so bad. And then like I remember just smelling it

600
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: all over my clothes.

601
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, the living quarters we lived in, the producers

602
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: told me when we left it had had pun piled

603
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: high two.

604
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 5: Feet from animals living in there two weeks ago.

605
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

606
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 5: I believe somebody didn't go home with some sort of like.

607
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: Bacterial I agree, Yeah, I agree.

608
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: And like when we got home from that Navy seal training,

609
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: which looked like it was fifteen minutes on the show,

610
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: but it was literally like two plus hours of intense

611
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: training basically waterboarding is what it felt like when they

612
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: put us.

613
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: Back in that water. They After that, we go back.

614
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: And I was the first one to shower, and I

615
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: remember thinking, like, yay, I get to be the first

616
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: one to shower, but I so badly wish I was

617
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: the last, because what happened is I get in there

618
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: and everyone wants to get in. So I think I

619
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: had thirty seconds I came out, I still had clumps

620
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: of sand all in my hair.

621
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: Oh no, barely coming out. I didn't even get to

622
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: rinse off.

623
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: Really, I was so covered, like, and what I didn't

624
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: realize is that people were jumping in the pig trough

625
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: to rinse off first and so there's like a pig

626
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: trough there which smells and is disgusting, where they had

627
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: everybody jump in with their manure boots and then you're

628
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: supposed to jump in after them to wash off.

629
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it was Bob's face.

630
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: In the toilets.

631
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, the toilets. We have to talk about those,

632
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: so I always, oh, they're porta potties. Yeah, they're gross.

633
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: That sucks that, like people are watching you pooh and

634
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: pee and like whatever, and not that anyone even can

635
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: go poop on the show. I mean it's I definitely

636
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: didn't in the days I was there, but I've heard

637
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: that people don't the whole ten days because it's just

638
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: so horrible.

639
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 5: But the seats were like splintered wood. It wasn't even

640
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 5: like nice wood.

641
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: It was like it was plywood plywood.

642
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 5: It was all splintered.

643
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: Like I remember being like, I can't even hit on

644
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: this with sand all over it and dirt, and I.

645
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: Think they must have had like the farmers that owned

646
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: the farm.

647
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: We were on using them for like a month before

648
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: we got there, because they were.

649
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: Very very hute. That first day, weren't they dressed up?

650
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not it was not like, you know,

651
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: it's not the fantasy world a Bachelor and Bachelorette.

652
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: Those porta potties made a ported potty on July fourth

653
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: in the middle of Times Square look like a five

654
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: star bath.

655
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: I was literally just gonna say, a porta potty is

656
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: way better, Like, you know, those were Yeah, they left

657
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: something to be desired, that's for sure.

658
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: I love that they've been like using them before you

659
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: guys even got there.

660
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean, because this was like a working farm.

661
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember looking at it and being like, where

662
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: did all this poop and pecome from? Like what?

663
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: It was? No kidding, God forbid they dig a fresh

664
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: hole of you guys.

665
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, it is forbid.

666
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: Even when there's like downtime, people are talking for two seconds.

667
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: It's like two seconds, so you're getting information and then

668
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: you're filling up your water bottle, and then you're making

669
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: sure your bergen's packed, and then you're switching at your

670
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: gear and making your stuff.

671
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: It was just never a moment, right, Yeah, yeah.

672
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: It was crazy, but I want to do it again.

673
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: I want to do it again. So this experience, obviously,

674
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I know, being in Bachelor Bachelorette, like having the world

675
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: of social media. You know, people are not always nice,

676
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: and I know that in times. You talked recently on

677
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: Caitlyn's podcast about your experience with Ellen and feeling like

678
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: she was laughing at you instead of laughing with you,

679
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: and kind of that she made you feel stupid. And

680
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: then after this show, I'm wondering, like, I know, you know,

681
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: Ellen's not on anymore and you're not we're not necessarily

682
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: doing like those big talk show interviews. But how has

683
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: the response been. I mean, you can talk talk about

684
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Ellen and that experience too, if you want to elaborate out.

685
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: Of proportion too, by the way, like the media picks

686
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: that and like, you know, I saw an article like

687
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: Ellen doesn't plan to apologize to Allie, which was like,

688
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: so stop, really it was some random article that some

689
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure some random person like told that story.

690
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 5: Ellen hasn't Ellen doesn't care about me, like this is

691
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: not on her radar, Like yeah, yeah.

692
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: Ellen, Ellen's I feel horrible that I even re brought

693
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: up that like drama for her, because she's been through

694
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: enough in my opinion, Like I feel for Ellen, actually,

695
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: but yes, I didn't have the best time, but I

696
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: didn't know making that like one comment was.

697
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Gonna like blow right.

698
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry because I

699
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes on the meat with the media

700
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: stuff and you know the Tressan Bob you too, like

701
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: things can just be blown out of proportion or like

702
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: people can be dragged through the mud and it's it's horrible.

703
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: It causes you stress at home, and.

704
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, and that blew up.

705
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: I was like, I really hope Ellen doesn't know about this,

706
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: because I don't want to be another person causing her.

707
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: Pain, you know what I mean, So like, yeah, that

708
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: that happened.

709
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: But but yeah, I mean with this, honestly, everything's been

710
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: pretty positive. I mean I try to avoid Reddit, like

711
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: the plague. I'm sure there's negative stuff on there, but

712
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: I don't go on there. I accidentally went on there

713
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: a while back, Like I someone asked me for like

714
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: my Instagram like Instagram website URL, and so I'm like, oh,

715
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: I know my handles ali dot mano, but let me

716
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: go look like let me couid. I didn't know if

717
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: it was like http dot w yeah, copy and paste

718
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: my Instagram. So I typed in Ali mano and I

719
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: was going to type in Instagram, So it just like

720
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: went to my Instagram on the computer, so I copy

721
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: and paste my URL.

722
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 5: And email it to somebody. And when I did that,

723
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: like Alimano weight loss.

724
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 4: Popped up, because that was like a thing because people

725
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: are like, how did you lose all this weight? Because

726
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: they didn't know I was training for Special Forces, So

727
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: there was all these like whatever, and so I like

728
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: clicked on it because I was curious. I was like, oh,

729
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: this is like one of the top things people are

730
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: searching about me. And then like these Reddit threads come

731
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: up and I clicked on one, and I will never

732
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 4: do it again. I will never ever ever credit thread

733
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: about me ever again. That the hate on Reddit is

734
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: so just horrendous, Like I feel one horrible for anyone

735
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: who's there's a thread about on there because they're like

736
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: almost all negative.

737
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 5: I would I mean maybe not, yes, one's about me.

738
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: Us.

739
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just you. It's definitely not like

740
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: the I.

741
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: Mean, it's just it's just such a negative spot of

742
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: the internet. So I'm avoiding that. I assume that there's

743
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: a lot of and I actually think when I tapped

744
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: on that thread, there was like one comment that said

745
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: something like oh, yeah, she's I know she's doing Special Forces,

746
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: because it was like people knew before you know, yeah,

747
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: we're on it, and someone's like, oh, I bet she

748
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: goes home injured, and I at that point had already

749
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: known I went home injured.

750
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 5: So I was like, like.

751
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: Like I made me feel sad about myself and then

752
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 4: I was so unhealthy, like I will never ever ever

753
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: go on read a thread about me ever again. Yeah,

754
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 4: because it just it hurts your soul. And I know

755
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 4: I'm a good person. I actually think that I got

756
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: a really good edit. I'm Special Forces.

757
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 7: Good.

758
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: I feel like like I was worried that they were

759
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: only going to show me like crying about falling off

760
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: the bridge when I was upset about that, like such

761
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: a whim.

762
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: I was so strong and people see that.

763
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: And I actually think that people did see how strong

764
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: I felt and like I take care of others, and

765
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: like I was happy that that part was shown.

766
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I think it definitely was.

767
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: I was upset that, like I felt that I didn't.

768
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 4: I was upset that your struggle wasn't shown in the

769
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: way that, like I felt.

770
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 5: That deserved to be shown, because thank you.

771
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: There was such a vulnerability that you showed on the show,

772
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: and it like those conversations I had with you. I

773
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: remember being in the warming room and talking to you,

774
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: and you were really beating yourself up in those like

775
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 4: you really and I remember them when the DS came

776
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: in and they were worried about you, Like I said

777
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: to him, like, see, like they care about you. And

778
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: then you know, and like I just thought that vulnerability

779
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 4: you had and you were opening up about how you felt,

780
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 4: like I thought that that would resonate with so many people,

781
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: and I was.

782
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: So upset that they didn't show that.

783
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: And you know, they can't show up everything, but like,

784
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: how do you feel about your journey?

785
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: It's hard because you know you saw me that day

786
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: when we both left, when we were doing like our

787
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: exit interviews. I was so at peace, like I truly

788
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: was just a piece came over me that morning. And

789
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: I've told people this that before we went on, the

790
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: night before I saw the number four four four, and

791
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: I love angel numbers, and I looked that up, like

792
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: what does four four four mean for angel numbers? And

793
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: it was like your guardian angels are watching over you.

794
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: And I went into it thinking, Okay, they're with me.

795
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: They're going to let me know, like you know, when

796
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: it's time or whatever. And I woke up that morning

797
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: and I just had this piece over me after being

798
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: able to have the mirror room interview, you know, and

799
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: kind of getting to that point and connecting with them

800
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: more on like a human level and sharing like who

801
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I am really and knowing that they saw that I

802
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: was trying my hardest meant so much to me. So

803
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: when I went to bed that night for the two

804
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: or three hours that we slept, I was kind of like, Okay,

805
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm just going to see how it goes in the morning,

806
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: like we're going to see what I wake up to.

807
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: And we woke up to explosions, and I was like, Okay,

808
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: I think I've learned, you know, enough from this. I've

809
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: gotten enough out of this experience. Yeah, exactly. It was

810
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: a sign. It was literally like, Okay, I think it's

811
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: time to get back to family. You have pushed your

812
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: body to the extreme and you survived and maybe the

813
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: next time you wouldn't, and so I think it's time.

814
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: So thank you for asking, because I do like I don't.

815
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: They didn't show me off the bridge, they didn't show

816
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: me like jumping to the helicopter. They didn't show a

817
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: lot of me, But that's not why I did the show,

818
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: you know. I did it because I wanted to challenge

819
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: myself have this once in a lifetime opportunity meet everybody

820
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: who did it with us.

821
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: It's also like not about other people you do it,

822
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: like yeah, for me at least, like I needed to

823
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: see me jump off the bridge, I needed to see

824
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: me jump to Like for me, I wanted to see

825
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 4: what I went through, Like I I was so upset

826
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: when I wasn't seeing you. I remember thinking about you,

827
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: like we talked about this on the phone. I was

828
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: like I thought that like.

829
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: You were not even going to see me.

830
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: But I was so grateful that I got to see

831
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: some of my stuff for my own healing process and

832
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: to know I didn't.

833
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: Like I want that raw footage.

834
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: For you, like I want, like te me, I want,

835
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: I want to just have that to see and I

836
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: think it's part of the healing process and like the

837
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: journey is like to see it back of what you did.

838
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: You know, so I think that's got to be hard

839
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 5: for you, like.

840
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Not yeah, yeah, I would love that. I would love

841
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: the raw footage just for closure, just to be able

842
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: to show like I really did do this, like to

843
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: remind myself, I really did do that and I and

844
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I did pretty well. I felt like in those moments,

845
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, you said in the Beehive that you guys

846
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: were the five or whatever, and I literally went to

847
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: the wall like seconds before I think it was like

848
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: three four five seconds before they ended. So I really

849
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: surprised myself in that the bungee jump. I never thought

850
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I would ever bungee jump, just because of my back problems,

851
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: and I did that and almost passed except for my

852
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: stupid grunt that I made, you know, so like, yeah,

853
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: I really would love to see their off footage, but

854
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And you know, like I

855
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: told you at you know, when you were having a

856
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: hard time after the exit, was there's a reason. Like

857
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: we don't know the reason now and maybe we'll never know,

858
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: but I feel like there were reasons that our journeys

859
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: were what they were on this show, and I know

860
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: you feel the same way. I feel so grateful for

861
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: just the opportunity to have done it, you know.

862
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely one hundred percent grateful for the opportunity.

863
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 5: I do think there's a chance if I had stayed.

864
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: That I would have permanently damaged my hand, like the

865
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: fact that they were by being that night.

866
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: And that's what the medic, you know, basically said. He

867
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 5: wrote me this letter.

868
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: And the letter said, well, it was a letter for

869
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: my doctor in Nashville because I went to a hand

870
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 4: surgeon when.

871
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 5: I got back here.

872
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: But it basically said, like my fear for you, if

873
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: you had stayed and punched someone with that hand, you

874
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: would lose permanent function of your hand, like.

875
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: Nerve damage or whatever.

876
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

877
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: Like and to this day like this, So this is

878
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: the finger that I happened to and I can't put

879
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: my ring over this finger anymore. So like my knuckle, Yeah,

880
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: it's something's messed up in my finger. If I if

881
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 4: I push on this knuckle, it hurts. So it is

882
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: there is permanent damage. It's not like anything to worry

883
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: about it. I can still I have function in my hand.

884
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 5: I'm fine. But there, you.

885
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: Know, I understand now why the medic did what he did.

886
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wish I had the rights.

887
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: The short end of the stick. With all the glove issues, man,

888
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: it can be a.

889
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: Glove endorsement.

890
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: Brims, so it can be like tired of gloves not

891
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: fitting well.

892
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Try on these.

893
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 5: I'm tired of.

894
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Try on these alley gloves made of real dealer.

895
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: So I have a question for you.

896
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: So I was reading about someone you just you just

897
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: told a story recently.

898
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: We were laughing earlier.

899
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: I was laughing earlier about how my son, my six

900
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: year old son, reacts to people knowing me from The Bachelor,

901
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: Like he has no idea what The Bachelor is, he's

902
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: never watched it. But like, we'll be at McDonald's playland

903
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: and trist I think I told you the story, but like,

904
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: I'll order, you know, two happy meals for him and

905
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: his little brother, and the little fourteen year old girl

906
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: will come over to deliver the tray and he'll be like,

907
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 2: he's the Bachelor.

908
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: He'll sign it for you. What do you want? Yeah,

909
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: he'll get a picture.

910
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's in the playland, like he's yelling from

911
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: the top of the playland.

912
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: I saw a.

913
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: Really funny story about you and your son with respect

914
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: to him talking to Alexa.

915
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: Can you share that with us?

916
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 4: Yeah? So well, I posted this on TikTok a while back.

917
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: It's like my one TikTok that's going viral. I'm too

918
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 4: old to understand the talk. Same ye in my son Riley,

919
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: he's six, I think he was five at the time.

920
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: Maybe he went over to Alexa and he's like, let's say,

921
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 4: show me a picture of mommy.

922
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 5: You know, nothing comes up. Alexa, show me a picture

923
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 5: of Ali man Ou nothing comes up.

924
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 4: And then I think Molly, my daughter said something like

925
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: say Ali the bachelorette. And because my daughter's eight, she

926
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: knows that I was a bachelorette. She understands now. So

927
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: he's like Ali the becherette, and this picture of like

928
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 4: me and Roberto pops up, like right off the engage.

929
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: He's like, what's that.

930
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: It's like when your six year old son discovers your

931
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: on reality Oh my gosh, oh yeah, but now they

932
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: so and then the funny bar in the clip. My

933
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: husband Kevin then goes up to Alexa and goes and

934
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: plugs in and it's like, all right, kids, say bye

935
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: to Alexa. And the funny thing is now my kids

936
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: know that like oaking Lee, that that like affects him,

937
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: like my husband doesn't really care like I right right,

938
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: Roberto could be sitting right next to me chatting right now,

939
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: and my husband want to care. But my kids now

940
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: love to go up to Alexa and try to get

941
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 4: that picture to pop back up.

942
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 5: So they're like Ellie the best, right, Alli and Roberto like.

943
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: They're like, Alexa, show me a picture of Allian Roberto cute?

944
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 5: They like my husband by hearing that to him now.

945
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Love it.

946
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: Trista reverse hazes me.

947
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: Not too long ago, we were in Tahoe together and

948
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: her son Max was there, and you know, I've never

949
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: heard Trista say anything like this before, so caught me

950
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: way off guard. But Max was like busy on his phone,

951
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: He's not really paying attention to us. You know, he's

952
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: like sixteen or fifteen at the time. And Trista goes, oh, Max,

953
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: do you remember you know Bob And he's like you know,

954
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: he's like okay, and she goes my ex boyfriend and

955
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, like.

956
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 4: Whoa hold on, dude.

957
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: You know, it's like a really funny moment. She starts laughing,

958
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: walks away, and I'm all stressed up.

959
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Oh they don't care, Yeah, they don't care.

960
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: Max still doesn't care. Max. He run into me on

961
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: the street and be like, who's this guy? I have

962
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: no idea?

963
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally isn't care.

964
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 5: Well speaking and stuff like that.

965
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: My daughter and I have a have to have a

966
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: lot of conversations about what it means, like what thing

967
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: means right. Like she's at this age now where she's like, Mom,

968
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: are you famous? And I'm like, well, no, honey, I'm like,

969
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: I was on a show one so people know who

970
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: I am, Like I had a level of fame at

971
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 4: one point in my life. Yes, I have my five

972
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: minutes like I was like, but no, And she's like, well,

973
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: what does it mean to be famous? And I'm like, okay, well,

974
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: usually famous people are like on TV or in movies.

975
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 4: She's like, you were on TV, you were in movies

976
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: because I did one movie. But I'm like okay, well normally,

977
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: you know, famous people are like doing red carpets and

978
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: people ask for their picture and she's like, we.

979
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 5: Went to Taylor Swift.

980
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: She's like what she was like counting how many people

981
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: came up and asked for a picture and she's like

982
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: seventeen people.

983
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 5: Mom, you're famous.

984
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, no, it's like this, and then she

985
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: goes no one talks about it, and I'm like, it's.

986
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 5: This weird conversation. Right now, I'm having with her.

987
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: But the reason I'm up is because then this did

988
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 4: not help my cause because then she's like, I'm like, moll,

989
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: you can't talk to kids about that and not, you know,

990
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: let's not talk about fame and it doesn't matter. Then

991
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 4: the special Forces errors, okay, and it's like sixteen celebrities take.

992
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: On, did I just got past this?

993
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: I know, I'm like, all this worked to try, And

994
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: then she looks at me and she goes, so you're

995
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: not a celebrity.

996
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: And smarty pants. No, I feel like you need to

997
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: just face the music. You were a celebrity ally just

998
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna share that. And and I know that it's hard

999
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: because your kids are, you know, at younger, but you know,

1000
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: just continue to have those honest conversations with them. And

1001
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: do you know she's gonna call you out. She knows

1002
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: how it is. She's smart, Riley smart. They're smart, they

1003
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: know what's up. So I think, just doing what you're doing,

1004
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: you're a great parent.

1005
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: And at least you can just be ali with her.

1006
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: My son thinks that I'm Bob the Builder or basketball

1007
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: you can't figure out which one. Yeah, no, yes, it's

1008
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: so cute, Bob.

1009
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: I mean, i'd take that one for sure, six.

1010
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 5: Year old eyes. That is a celebrity.

1011
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: So congratulating totally exactly. I have got to get going.

1012
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: We could, of course talk for hours and hours, and

1013
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: we will. We'll have you back on the show, not

1014
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: to talk about Special Forces, but just to chat about life,

1015
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: and but I would really I just want to thank

1016
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: you again for taking care of me. I'm so glad

1017
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: you were there, that we had each other. You were

1018
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: the like, the only familiar face I had, even though

1019
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: I had met I think Denise once before. But it

1020
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: was so good to have you there with me and

1021
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: like and like we were talking before because we've found

1022
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: out we could share this story later because I don't

1023
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: know that we have time for it, but we found

1024
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: Alie found out that I was on the show, like

1025
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: when we were in sequester basically waiting to go film.

1026
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: And I knew before because she was sharing on Instagram

1027
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: how hard she was working out. And I saw her

1028
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: working out with her military boots one day and I

1029
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that's it. I know she's doing it.

1030
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: I wore them with dresses two events I was wearing.

1031
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: I never took them off.

1032
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: It's so amazing.

1033
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: I literally have a video of me wearing them with

1034
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: a dress because I refuse to put on heels.

1035
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: I need to break in these boots. But anyway, that's

1036
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 5: so good.

1037
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, good for you. That's another training tip that

1038
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Hannah gave me. Actually, But anyway, so I knew going

1039
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: in that we would have each other and that definitely

1040
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: gave me a little bit more confidence. So thank you,

1041
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: thank you for being there.

1042
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: Thank you, And I feel like it brought us closer,

1043
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: Like obviously we're in the Fashion worm together and stuff,

1044
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: but now I feel like I have like this different

1045
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: way to connect with you now, and I'm grateful for that.

1046
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: And I feel the same way. I was so happy

1047
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: you were there and now we can talk about it

1048
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: together and I don't know redemption season.

1049
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: That's right, But thank you so much for being here

1050
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: to talk with Bob and I on the almost famous

1051
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: o G podcast. We would love for everybody go give

1052
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: Ali a follow on Instagram. It's at Ali Mano Ali.

1053
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1054
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, thank you, thank you, thank you everybody for listening.

1055
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: So good to check.

1056
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 5: Nice