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Speaker 1: with my main man, Stucky, who we've just been about

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Speaker 1: seven hours talking different playoff scenarios. The NFL playoffs are

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. You can find him on the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. You can find him on the as my

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Speaker 1: mother calls it, the X channel, which formerly known as Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot going on, Stucky, my man, Stucky's

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Speaker 1: fucking red hot. I mean, I don't know when the

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Speaker 1: last time he's lost a game. I mean, Chargers plus

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Speaker 1: eleven and a half. How about that one the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: That's that's stealing money. But we got to move forward

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Speaker 1: because we had a lot going on before we get

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Speaker 1: to the NFL playoffs. We have there's nothing like during

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Speaker 1: the bowl games, especially the bigger Bowl games, when you

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Speaker 1: have these famous coaches and they're getting ready for you know,

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Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, these massive games. But it's like

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Speaker 1: pictures of Saban and Harbaugh and Mickey Mouse. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's the best, you know, It's just it's hard to beat.

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Speaker 1: I've that photo going around this week is as good

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Speaker 1: as it gets. It doesn't You don't get that in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Beside on Super Bowl Week when it's very

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Speaker 1: forced in college, it feels like kind of natural. They're

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Speaker 1: all enjoying themselves even as they're getting ready for just

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably one of the biggest games Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh has ever played. It would definitely be one of

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Speaker 1: his biggest wins of his career. And Saban this is

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Speaker 1: just another year. So let's let's start with the college

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Speaker 1: football playoffs that I guess is Monday, and I saw

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Speaker 1: you know the NFL. I guess they've been doing this.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll record this on Thursday, last Thursday night game

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Speaker 1: of the year. There's no Monday night football. They basically concede.

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Speaker 1: Now part of it is I think ESPN has the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: so the playoffs, those two games get to dominate. Let's

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Speaker 2: I don't think the only thing the only thing that

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Speaker 1: I do think the NFL just, you know, in a

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Speaker 1: And then on that one, they don't try to attack

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Speaker 1: like they've gone after Adam Silver and they've treated them

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Speaker 1: get rid of, and they've annihilated them. Honestly, I've watched basketball,

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Speaker 1: grew up on Michael Jordan. I didn't watch one dribble,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up playing watching basketball. My first sport

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Speaker 2: FA the uh the Sixer. I think the Sixers were on.

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Speaker 1: The Sixers, Yeah, they play, they were, and I was over.

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Speaker 2: My dad's TV didn't change from NFL from start to finish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Eagles were on, but I mean even luckily

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all my friends I grew up with are diehard

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Speaker 1: coaching jobs. Now, mill Row, it depends who you get.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the guy against Georgia who was making

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Speaker 1: like I truly believe this, Like Jim Harba's had a

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Speaker 2: Massively, he's owed six in his last six Bowl games

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Speaker 2: as well. Jesus a little in their head too. So

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how they come out, because they've

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Speaker 2: We're watching like every snap trying to find like a

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Speaker 1: So that how did that work out for him against Georgia? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Not well, So the it's I'm interested because it's definitely

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Speaker 1: So they had the fucking they had the signs. They

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Speaker 1: One curveball always with Alabama in this stretch now that

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Speaker 1: But you never you never know, man. And that's the

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Speaker 2: don't mind your Washington bet. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see fire to the NFL. I guess there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Kyle Kyle said that yesterday. I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to get everyone's attention when you just

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Speaker 2: then you know, beat the Bills and the Bills are

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Speaker 2: the seven and the Ravens are the two, absolute nightmare

430
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Speaker 2: for the Ravens season, then have to play the Bills

431
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Speaker 2: in the So this game again is huge. I'm cure

432
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: two things. I mean, I just can't wait to watch

433
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: this game because now the Dolphins have some injuries. They're

434
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: also coming off a big game. But how will the

435
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: Ravens respond? Just like, are they gonna be a little

436
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: flat emotionally? It's a short week, a huge game. We

437
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: were so disrespected. They talked about a physical game too.

438
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: And how will m how will Mike McDaniel You have

439
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: to m Mike McDaniel vers Mike McDonald matchup. We saw

440
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Speaker 2: how McDonald attacked the Shanahan offense last week. How will

441
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: what will some of the adjustments be? So I'm curious

442
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: to see from a stematic standpoint what McDaniel comes up with,

443
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 2: because it's your playing, you know, to you just saw

444
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 2: this defense go up against an offense. It has a

445
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: lot of similarities to years so from and then I

446
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: want to see what McDonald does to switch up things.

447
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: So I'm really fascinated.

448
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Speaker 1: You know. The cool part about that matchup is McDonald

449
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: is a harball guy, and the McDaniel Shanahan crew, you know,

450
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: is kind of like the smart guys yep, And you

451
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: know the harbor. When you think harballs, you just think

452
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: like fucking heavyweight fighters. They just want to brawl. And

453
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: when you think Shanahan's obviously they like physical players, but

454
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: you know it's about out thinking you, out scheming you. Yeah,

455
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: and the one thing, you know, texting with a buddy

456
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: on the Raven staff, he's like, I he called McDonald

457
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: the boy genius. He's like, the guy is fucking awesome,

458
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: and this guy loved wink. I mean, they they're used

459
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Speaker 1: to having good defensive coordinators there, but his ability to

460
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: use Kyle Hamilton, who was you know, I think a

461
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: lot of teams get scared off with guys like that,

462
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: right because your defensive coordinator better be elite to use

463
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: that guy. Their D line is just fucking massive. I

464
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Speaker 1: mean it's just their D line right now is better

465
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: than the forty nine ers D line. Obviously, they lead

466
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Speaker 1: the league in sacks, but they don't necessarily have like

467
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: a Nick Bosa. They just have a unit that plays

468
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: really well. And then they're two linebackers, I mean make

469
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: it douna tackles and all their DB's hit and I

470
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: my takeaway from that game is like the Niners are

471
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: used to the reason they blow everyone out because they're

472
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: so much more physical, and then they kind of get

473
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: on you and they start kicking you when you're down

474
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: like a UFC fighter. Well, the Ravens are cool with

475
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: getting in the ring, right, and then they kind of

476
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: them and and the Niners, you know, we're kind of

477
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: show shocked a little bit because they're used to just

478
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: when they shove you, you don't usually shove back. And then

479
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: obviously the turnovers and everything snowballed, and then Lamar, let's

480
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: face it. I mean, he's probably gonna win the MVP

481
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: this year, but his numbers, you know, pale in comparison

482
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: to what they were years ago. But he's a way

483
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: better player now. Do you think he's just way more

484
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: under control? I just feel like he's a way more

485
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: like to me, he's I know he was considered a

486
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: star back then, but like this guy. And there's a

487
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: lot of pressure to me on the Ravens that like,

488
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: you should win the AFS, Like this is kind of

489
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: a good year for you to go to the super Bowl.

490
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Speaker 1: You know, the super Bowl is weird. We've seen weird

491
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: games happen, but like there's no excuse to be like

492
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: a one and done team or not make a legit

493
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: run here, which they haven't really done under Lamar.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is it's a huge year for Lamar.

495
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: And it's funny because like it's still one game of

496
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: an oblong ball.

497
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird shit happens, but.

498
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: That's it's gonna be put on him and that's that's

499
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: the name of the game in the NFL. And yeah,

500
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: I love McDonald. I can The one thing that I

501
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: can tell you but that the Ravens more than any

502
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: other team in the league. Whenever I dig into what

503
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: coverages they use when they're blitzing every single week, there

504
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: is it's completely different. So a lot of a lot

505
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 2: of NFL teams have tendencies like you're gonna run now,

506
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: no one runs one coverage. Everyone's mixing in all types

507
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: of zones and man's. But you'll have teams that are,

508
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, man heavy, like the Cowboys. You have teams

509
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: that are really zone heavy, like the Seahawks. The Ravens

510
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: on a week the week basis, depending on the matchup,

511
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: depending on they're playing, might go completely zone heavy, they

512
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: might go completely man heavy. They might use just a

513
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: ton of simulated pressures.

514
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Speaker 1: When you say the best defensive coordinators fangio wink, you

515
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: just go around the league. Todd Bowles all have a

516
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: calling card that they usually kind of Mike Zimmer forever, like,

517
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: they do the same shit over and over.

518
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: They just master it, which is why part of the

519
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: reason why I liked the Ravens last week against the

520
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: forty nine ers because they and they were able to

521
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: confuse party into a pick or two. Because you give Shanahan,

522
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, the best offensive schemer, and you say, Okay,

523
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: here's the defense you're gonna play. He's gonna come up

524
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: with plays to beat that defense and put your quarterback

525
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: in good positions. But you don't know what you're gonna

526
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: expect from the Ravens on a week the week basis.

527
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: It's the Belichick yep, exactly. So that's what makes this

528
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: raven there's Ravens defense. If you look like, you know,

529
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: Hamilton's the stars probably be an All Pro Roquan Spit's

530
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: one of the best linebackers in NFL, But he's not

531
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: like a Hall of Famer. If you look at the

532
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: Raids defense just there, you know, and I love Humphrey,

533
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: it's not like, oh my god, look at all these stars.

534
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: But it's the unit. Yeah, it's the some of the parts.

535
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: They all play together. They're all in and then it's

536
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: the it's the play calling, the game planning, and the preparation.

537
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: So I would love to see a rematch to see

538
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: what Shanahan was Obviously that came just slipped away pretty

539
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: out a bad game, but uh it's I hope we

540
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: see a rematch in the super Bowl because I do

541
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: think those of the two best teams.

542
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Speaker 1: Well, I would imagine you don't want McDonald to leave

543
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: in one place. You know that loves defense in Chicago.

544
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna interview for sure this offseason, but

545
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: he just with defensive coaches. You never quite know. Falcons

546
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: the Bears. You know, there's been a lot of momentum,

547
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: Like Ebra flu is gonna keep his job. They're not

548
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna keep rolling with Justin Fields like no.

549
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: I think Ibra Flues has probably done and did Justin Fields.

550
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna draft a quarterback. But who you like in

551
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: this game?

552
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like the Falcons plus three. I talked about

553
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: this last week. The Falcons not an Art Smith guy,

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 2: but they were. I still think they're undervalue, even though

555
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: they beat the shit out of the Colts last week.

556
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: Heinig's a big upgrade. I think Henig's fifteenth in EPA

557
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: per play across the NFL winners like thirty first and

558
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: would literally just give games away. And despite that talked

559
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: about this last week, they were one in five in

560
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: games decided by five or last, with four losses in

561
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: the final minute over the past two months. So they

562
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: easily could have nine ten wins. And then the Bears. Look,

563
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: they've been playing better. Adding sweat was big to their

564
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: pass rush. But this is a team that here are

565
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: their wins. They have six wins. They beat the Vikings

566
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: with Josh Dobbs, the Raiders with Brian Hoyer, the Commanders,

567
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, the Panthers, and the Lions without outdoor pumpkin

568
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: golf in the wind. That's it. So like I think

569
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: we're at the peak of the market on the Bears.

570
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Look and the Falcons run dye number one and rush EPA.

571
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: You can't run on them. You have to throw it. Well,

572
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: here's the problem, Mooney concussion comet didn't practice today. He's

573
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: her DJ Moore dealing with an ankle injury, a couple

574
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: offensive line injuries, so their offense is banged up. Falcons

575
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: might finally get all five offensive linemen back Heineke is

576
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: an upgrade. I think the Falcons are still a bit

577
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: undervalued in the market, and you know, with a spread

578
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: of three r s in the this Bears team all

579
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: of a sudden is a favorite to win by margin.

580
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: And this isn't the Cardinals, this isn't the Panthers. So yeah,

581
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: I like the Falcons here. I think it's a team

582
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: that despite last week, it's still they're still undervalued. And

583
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: for what it's this is just a crazy one off

584
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: stat all. This will be the sixteenth Falcons game. All

585
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: sixteen have had a spread of three and a half

586
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: or least. Never happened in NFL history.

587
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: Jesus, Okay, you kind of went the other way on

588
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: the Bills last week and you fucking nailed it. Took

589
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers and all the points. This week they're getting

590
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: even more points. Obviously, it's at home playing the Patriots,

591
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: coming off a pretty massive win where for the most

592
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: part they punked Denver. Then the game got weird toward

593
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: the end, Bills getting almost you know, two touchdowns minus thirteen.

594
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: You like the Bills big this weekend?

595
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: I do. I've been in two of the Bills this

596
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: year when the bet and when the knots, hopefully that

597
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: continues the so last week, the Bills they go. I

598
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: just love the spot for the charter. It was a

599
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: classics like they had three huge games in a row,

600
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: short week out west. You're playing a team that just

601
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: fired its coach, got embarrassed, had extended rest. You were

602
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: going to get the and you saw it early. I knew.

603
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: I knew right away and I think you'll now in

604
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: the first two minutes you saw the defenses flying around.

605
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: The Bills were a little flat, and I said that.

606
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Then I got started worry because I have a Bills future.

607
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, they could lose this game, and luckily they

608
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: pulled it out at the end. But now you have,

609
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, get extra day of rest and prep. You're

610
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: coming back home refocused spot. You're playing a Patriots team

611
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: that you lost to earlier this season at home front

612
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: of a raucous crowd. I think what happens here is

613
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: you get focused, but Bills effort early and by the way,

614
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 2: Patriots have you want to you want to look at

615
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: an injury report. I mean both their safeties might not play.

616
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Their linebackers are hurt, a couple offensive linemen are probably

617
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: gonna be out. They just put Romandre Stevenson on IR,

618
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: a couple of receivers their tight end. I mean, this

619
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: is a mash unit this week. Zappi played better last week,

620
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: but he's still thirty eighth or forty and epa per

621
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: play among quarterbacks, still prone to mistakes. What happened? What

622
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: I think happens here? Bills come out, They unleash Alan

623
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: a little bit. She still can't really run on the Patriots,

624
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: but now with their secondary injuries, I think allen Bills

625
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: come out on fire, get a lead. What does that

626
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: lead to? That makes Zappi, you know, especially because you

627
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: don't have Seat Stevenson, you're running with, you know, the

628
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: ghost of Zeke. So you're gonna rely on Zappi to

629
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: drop back in front of this raucous crowd. Mistakes and

630
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: then I think it just snowballs on the Patriots. And

631
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: day Kwon Jones talked about this with the Bills earlier,

632
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: huge loss that defensive tackle, and they just haven't been

633
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: the same up front, full participant in practice, back off,

634
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I r I expect him to be back. That's messive.

635
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: I think Michael Hyde might be back at safety. So

636
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: this Bill's defense added Rausseul Douglas to replace Trey White.

637
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna get Daikwon Jones back. Trending up. The only

638
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: piece you're still missing is Matt Malana. But some of

639
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: the other linebackers have stepped up, so this team's coming

640
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: together right at the right time. But I think Bill's

641
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: refocused spot with revenge over. The Patriots come out, get

642
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: a lead, force sappy to throw, will make some mistakes

643
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: and then it just snowballs from there and Patriots just

644
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: aren't built for the most part to come back in

645
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: games from behind on a game script. So yeah, I

646
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: like the Bills to win this game big. Usually when

647
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 2: they win against bad teams, they come out focus, they

648
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: win big, and I think this is a good focus

649
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: spot for the Bills. So I like the minus thirteen.

650
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: You know, obviously one of the stories of I would

651
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: say December, I saw ten touchdowns, one pick has been

652
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and just playing really good football. And I

653
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: before we hopped on, I pull up Draftking sportsbook. I

654
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: see that, you know, the line was two and a

655
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: half some players I have three. I was like, how's

656
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Tampa not favored by like four or five? Right? The

657
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: Saints have been pretty bad. This is to win the division.

658
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: To me, the line was an immediate red flag. And listen,

659
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't I have no confidence in this division. I

660
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: have no confidence in any of these teams. I wouldn't

661
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: even feel comfortable betting this game because I think everyone

662
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: is out Tampa's gonna win. Well, then you look at

663
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: the line, You're like, well, it's not. Now. Historically, a

664
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: lot of these players there's still a lot of carryover

665
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: from some of the Sean Payton guys who are comfortable

666
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: playing in this game, to guys that you know played

667
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: with Brady, because I mean, let's face a lot of

668
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: those guys are still there, right Mike Evans vide Vea,

669
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: the linebacker who's been controversial with his injury situation of

670
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: the DBS. So, I don't know, I mean, I have

671
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: a hard time. I guess the logic guy would have

672
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: even taking the points with the Saints would be Derek

673
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Carr in a big spot, even more than Dennis Allen.

674
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: Like Derek in a big spot, and he has just

675
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: been he just doesn't want to get hit anymore. And

676
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: that much is he'd been like that for a while,

677
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: but he really looks like that now. And you know, Russell,

678
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about him because it's obviously one

679
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: of the worst contracts of all time. He's gonna get cut.

680
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: But Derek's contract, the next tier below, if they lose

681
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: this game, missed the playoffs and they're kind of stuck

682
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: with them, has a chance to be a pretty shitty contract.

683
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: This is a massive game for Derek Carr.

684
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible contract, especially when you consider I know they

685
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: do their their ridiculous math every year and make it work,

686
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: but the Saints.

687
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Contract always push the money back.

688
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the salary cap situation, Like this is a team

689
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: and they're old, their oldest ship, so that their depth

690
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: is hurt. This is a team that just needs to

691
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: be blown up. Like you didn't need to give car

692
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: all that money. You you had, You already had Winston

693
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: right in a bad division, you could win the You

694
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: could have won the division with Winston and what you

695
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: need is and then if it went south, great, you

696
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: have all you know, you got to start fixing your sacco.

697
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: You got a draft, you have to find a young quarterback,

698
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: and then you got to start rebuilding this roster. It's

699
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: just the Saints are like there's just this zombie that eventually,

700
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, is gonna get shot in the head and

701
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: fall over. And if they lose this game, that might

702
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: be the breaking point. But I just look the Bucks.

703
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: I will say Baker Mayfield's played better, but he has

704
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: been pretty lucky. I mean, he has twenty six touchdowns,

705
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: eight interceptions. You go buy some advanced mesters. He has

706
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: twenty one big time throws, twenty turnover worthy plays, so

707
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: he has some mistakes coming.

708
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: Bucks.

709
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: We do these Action Network, we do these luck rankings,

710
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: and it basically just looks at, okay, what teams are

711
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: and what they should be and the Bucks, you know,

712
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: based on expected score Petagron wins, the Bucks should be

713
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: six and nine. They're the second luckiest team in the

714
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: NFL this year. The Saints are the thirty first. They've

715
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: been the second unluckiest. Whenever there's a gap, there's a

716
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: thirty percent gap between them and luck in week thirteen

717
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: or later. We've been doing this for seven years, twenty

718
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: eight seven and two against the spread. If you bet

719
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: the unlucky team, that's eighty percent. Why have the Bucks

720
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: been lucky? Well, a number of reasons. Mayfield's gotten away

721
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: with some throws their red zone d is way overperformed.

722
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: This isn't an elite defense and even one of the

723
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: best red zone dees. They fumbled it I think twenty times,

724
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: I've only lost five. They've been really bad on early

725
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: downs because they can't run the ball. I think they're

726
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: twenty third and EPA per play on early downs, twelfth

727
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: on late downs, which are less predictive and harder to sustain,

728
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: and so they've been like turnovers fourth downs. They've been

729
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: extremely fortunate. And so this team has been running really well.

730
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a good time to sell them. They

731
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: won four straight, but who do they beat? Right? Like,

732
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: you gotta remember this team just went one in six

733
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: a month ago, they finished a one and six stretch,

734
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: and now they won four in a row, and the

735
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: narrative has changed, Like make Mayfield's back. They beat the

736
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Panthers by three at home, they beat the Falcons on

737
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: the last second touchdown, They beat the jag the corpse

738
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: of the Jags, and then the Packers, whose defense is

739
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: just in free fall mode? So like, am I really

740
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: that impressed with those four wins? Now?

741
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: So if you're doing look ahead lines, who would Dallas

742
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: rather face in a playoff game on the road. Uh,

743
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: obviously they killed Tampa last year. You know, with Tom

744
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: I would say, is it fair to say I think

745
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: have a tough, tougher road environment.

746
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they might rather play I mean you could

747
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: just like with with Mayfield, there's more variants, like he

748
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: can get the ball down field, you have better receivers, like.

749
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: Have more offensive firepower.

750
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Feels like, yeah, so Bowls is a good defensive game planner.

751
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: So I think they would rather it's not as But

752
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: then you get the yeah, because I think I would

753
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: rather play the Saints. You also get to play indoors

754
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: if you're the Cowboys, yea, with their speed. So but

755
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: I ultimately think there's just not much difference between the Saints,

756
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: Falcons and Bucks. You're giving me for you're giving me

757
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: three you give me a field goal you need three years,

758
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: so you're shopping around. I wouldn't bet two and a half.

759
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: I think this is these two teams aren't that different.

760
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Bucks have been pretty lucky, which is mirroring some issues.

761
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: Saints have issues too. These are all like seven and

762
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: nine seven and so.

763
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: What what are the Falcons need the same to win?

764
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: And then they beat the Saints. The last week of

765
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: the season.

766
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: So no, all the the Bucks are in great position.

767
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: But if the Bucks win this week, they clinched the division.

768
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: If they lose, all they need to do is beat

769
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: the Panthers, but they play at Carolina. So if the

770
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Falcons win this week and then the Falcons beat the

771
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: Saints and then the Saints beat the Bucks, they need

772
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: the Bucks with the Panthers, and I will tell you,

773
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: and I actually have a bet on the Falcons to

774
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: win the division, which is pretty dead, but I will

775
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: say that if that situation sets up with the Falcons

776
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: beat the Bears and then they're underdogs and the Saints

777
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: beat the Bucks, then I will say Week eighteen. Every

778
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: single year, we'll talk about this next week. Teams that

779
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: need to win against teams that are way out of it,

780
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: especially in division. There's one to two that get upset

781
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: every single season in the NFL. Lines usually inflated too,

782
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't be shocked if the Panthers won that game.

783
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: So it things could still get weird in the NFC South,

784
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: but I just think these two teams aren't that different.

785
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: I'll take the extended rest too for the Saints, which

786
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: later in the year is more important, especially for an

787
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: older team because they're like Cam Jordan looks like he's

788
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: like sixty years old out there, so just getting a

789
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: couple extra days helps. This is this game probably right

790
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: down in the wire, but the Bucks do have a

791
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: lot of aggression coming, Like it wouldn't be shocked if

792
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: they don't convert on a fourth down. Mayfield throws two picks.

793
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 2: You know, the Saints convert their red zone trips, so

794
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: I like the three here.

795
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Okay, sucky, Merry Christmas, have a good New Year's weekend,

796
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games, and let's ship keep rolling.

797
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to everyone, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, and yeah,

798
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: enjoy the games this weekend. Great weekend of football across

799
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: the board, so hopefully we can bring some winners home.

800
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: Let's go baby.

801
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: The volume