1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: scripted as well. 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops for today episode of Reality with the King. 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Listen my girl, Effony K Williams is back at the building. 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 4: Hey, Ebony, Hello, Carlos the King. 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: I have thissed you. I've missed you so much. I'm listened. 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: We conquered the day trial together and with your expert 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: opinion and the fact that you pretty much predicted the outcome. 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: Let's let's get the pop to this gorgeous mark intelligent 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: mother wo man. Okay, yeah, well, thank you, my love. 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: But it was through your dominique done, investigative journalist realness 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 5: that walked us through all the pieces. I mean, it 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 5: really was like Cannie, y'all don't know this, but I 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: was texting Carlos on the side and I was like, 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: did we clock it or did we clock it? Like 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 5: down to the sentencing. I mean, you know, we we 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 5: are waiting, but you know we kind of saw some 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 5: things come to pass. 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean my. 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: And we'll be back officially sent it, so we'll we'll 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: do that again. 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll be back. 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: So today listed it has been the talk of the 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: town when it comes to the particular crime that we 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: are discussing today. So we are discussing the case that's 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: been going on. It hasn't about the trial yet. It's 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: for the crime in the early stage with rapper t 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Hood who got shot top of August. And the reason 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: why this is relevant to reality with the King is 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: because it has to do with Tee Hood dating the 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: daughter of Love and hip hop stars Rasheeda and Kerk 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: Frost and how allegedly. 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Their son Kai Frost is involved. 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: So to update you all what's been going on, Tee Hood, 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: who was born Tavin Hood, an Atlanta rapper thirty three 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: years old, was found dead the top of August due 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: to gunshot wounds. Police said that one person was detained 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: at the scene and it's being interviewed by detectives. 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: His girlfriend is Kelsey. 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: She is the biological daughter of Kirk Frost, so that 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: is her stepmother. 48 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: Kelsey and Tee Hood was dating. 49 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: There's so much that's been going on in terms of 50 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: allegations that she was being abused. The recent footage that 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: came out of Tehood allegedly beating Kelsey while she was 52 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: in her bid. Tee Hood's family is accusing Kelsey of 53 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: getting her brothers to do it. 54 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: And the other recent report is saying that her. 55 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: Brother ky Crost, which is the biological son of both 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Kirk and Mashida, they're saying that he has something involved 57 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: with it, and now they're claiming self defense, not that 58 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: Kye Cross is saying that. That's what the police are 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: trying to figure out in terms of the person of interest. Ebany, 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: based on your research, talk to us about what's going 61 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: on with this particular situation. 62 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: So so much, Carlos, this is you know, during my 63 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: and I want to let the rain jobs know, which 64 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: I think is a really wonderful thing from my lens 65 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 5: throughout us covering this case. 66 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: I actually do not watch love and hip hop, so 67 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: I really will. 68 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: Be able to have a fully objective lens when it 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 5: comes to my legal analysis of this murder or what 70 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: may be a murder actually, so let's start with that. 71 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 2: Rest in peace to Tea Hood. 72 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: I mean, horrible, horrible, horrible, tragic killing. But we don't 73 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: know yet if it will be considered a murder. So 74 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: murder actually, Carlos, is a legal term that requires an 75 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 5: unjustifiable illegal killing of another. The reason I say that 76 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: we don't know if we're gonna end up with a 77 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 5: murder charge. And I think it's very telling that so 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: far Gwynea County police are leaked there there. I can't 79 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: say leaking because they're actually providing it directly. 80 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: They are directly. 81 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 5: Providing certain information and not other information. And when we 82 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: see police departments do this, Carlos, we must pay attention. 83 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 5: For instance, it's very telling that they are telling us 84 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: that they have a primary suspect, Kay Frost, the son 85 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: of Rashida and Kirk. It's also very telling that they're 86 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 5: also volunteering, that they are investigating it as self defense. 87 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 5: The fact that they are kind of starting the investigation 88 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: from that possibility is not common normally, Carlos King. When 89 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: you have a police department or sheriff's department, a law 90 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: enforcement entity, investigating a death, Okay, a death investigation, they're 91 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 5: normally starting from a new like they're starting from a 92 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: place of someone is dead, three things happen. One of 93 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 5: three things happen. This is either a suicide, a homicide, 94 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: or a justifiable case for t who to have been 95 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: shot and killed. August eighth. We are not even two 96 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: full weeks away. 97 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: From that, Carlos. 98 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: Okay, as we record this, this is just not even 99 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 5: two full weeks away from the So this is an 100 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: extremely preluminary investigative. 101 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: Time, okay. 102 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: For them to already be telling the general public that 103 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 5: we are looking at it through a self defense lens 104 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: normally indicates that that might be where they want to 105 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: go with the investigation. To be honest, now I'm not 106 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: shading Gwinne County Police, Carlos, but I need people to 107 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: clock that, to clock that. If they wanted to presume, 108 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: to preserve rather the opportunity to come at it from 109 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: a more conventional murder charge, a more conventional homicide lens, 110 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: they would not be offering us that information. They would 111 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 5: not be telling us that, yes, Kai is the primary 112 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: suspect at this point, and also we are investigating it 113 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: through the lens of a possible self defense. That the 114 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: point I'm making here is ladies and gentlemen, they are 115 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 5: making a choice. They're making a choice to release the 116 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: information with that framework. 117 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Carlos, No, it does make sense. 118 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: So when police elact right because I'm following what you're dropping. 119 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: Because it's a choice, it's a chic. 120 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, when a police department, and in this particular 121 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: case is Gwennette County. It is the state of Georgia. 122 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: It's a red state. So I just want to call 123 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: things out the weighted and Jeannette. 124 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: County is they are they considered a more affluent suburb 125 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 5: or tell me about Gwinnette County, So I don't want 126 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 5: to confuse it with the cob or anything else. 127 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, And that's the thing and the beauty of 128 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: this is I lived in Atlanta for many, many, many, 129 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 3: many many years. I don't know much about Barnet County, Okay, 130 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: So I honestly we're gon. 131 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: We're gonna be learning as we go in terms of 132 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: the political demographics of the county. 133 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: This is that will be very interesting. 134 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: Yes, So what Efony is saying, obviously there's information that's 135 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: being revealed through the Department that they want to come out. 136 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: They want us to do right. 137 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 5: So they want us to be thinking because because I think, 138 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: based off of what we do know from TMZ, reporting 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: from other outlets, reporting from what we certainly know who 140 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: more or less shot uh tea hood, we we kind 141 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 5: of reasonable mind short conclude the who. This is not 142 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: a who done it? This is going to end up 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 5: being a why did they do it? And the why 144 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: did they do it? 145 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Question? 146 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: Carlos is going to answer what charge is brought, if 147 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: indeed a charge, because there is a scenario where they 148 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 5: can do this in investigation, Carlos make their conclusions and 149 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 5: no charges be filed. I've seen it before and it 150 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: normally causes a lot of problems when there's an engaged 151 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 5: family for the victim, you know where it's like you 152 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 5: didn't even put him on trial and let the judge 153 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 5: or jewelry decide if it was self defit. No, they 154 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: could because this is pre like charges have not been filed. 155 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, there is not me charges have not 156 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: been filed at this point, meaning there has been no arrange. 157 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: Arraignment is step one of a legal proceeding of this nature. 158 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: That would be the first thing we would see where Kai, 159 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: presumably the lead suspect right now, would stand in front 160 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 5: of a judge. He would have his charges formally read 161 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 5: to him, sir, you are charged with murder or manslaughter 162 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 5: or second degree whatever it is, right, and then he 163 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: would inter repleat that's what you do in an arraignment, 164 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: guilty or not guilty, and then things would proceed trial, plea, 165 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: what have you. We're not even their rain drops. We 166 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: are not even at that stage. 167 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: Of the game. 168 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: We might not even get. 169 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: To that stage of the game. 170 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm clocking, Carlos. 171 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 5: I think it's very a bit peculiar telling indicative that 172 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 5: when that County Police Department, without the DA even entering 173 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 5: the game at this point publicly at least saying we're investigating, 174 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: we're looking into it, we're talking to witnesses. Because they 175 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: have also told us that Carlos, that both the primary suspect, 176 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 5: Kai Frost, as well as any witnesses of the occurrence 177 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: are all cooperating with this investigation. And they're basically saying, 178 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: we might have all the information we need from Jump 179 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 5: and we might decline to even charge this young man 180 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: based off of the witnesses and the forensic evidence and 181 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: the direct evidence, or they could say madam or mister 182 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 5: or madam prosecutor, because that's going to be the next step. 183 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 5: They are going to have to talk to the prosecution 184 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: office and they're going to have to say, hey, we've 185 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: talked to witnesses, we've interrogated the primary suspect. We have 186 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: this is very important in this kind of case, Carlos, 187 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 5: clock the forensic the shell casing, fingerprints, blood splatter, trajectory, 188 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 5: all of that stuff y'all see when you watch forensic. 189 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: Files or CSI and HONI shit. 190 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: They're looking to make sure that that matches the stories 191 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 5: that they're hearing from the witnesses, including the primary suspect, 192 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 5: but also including we have to think one of the 193 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: main witnesses here is the daughter Kylie. Okay, they're going 194 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: to see that all lines up. 195 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: What's her name? 196 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 5: I get it right, okay, Kelsey. And are you're gonna 197 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: say that lines up or that doesn't line up? And 198 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 5: based on that, mister or miss prosecutor, we recommend, so 199 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: they recommend. So that's another thing I want to explain, Carlos, 200 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: is the law enforcement makes a recommendation, but ultimately it 201 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: is the prosecutor for Gwyneck County that will decide whether 202 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 5: or not charges will be brought. Law enforcement makes a 203 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 5: recommendation based on their investigation. They hand that over the 204 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: whole file, every interview, every video of deposition, all the 205 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 5: stuff they get from the forensic reports, and all the 206 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 5: specialists and everybody, the EMMY, the medical examiner who has 207 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 5: looked at the body. Because I want to get to 208 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 5: how I think there's some reporting that t Hood's mother 209 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: is saying, well, how could it be self defense if 210 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 5: he was shot five times? I'm not sure because I 211 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 5: haven't seen an EMMY report. I want to be clear 212 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 5: with brain drops, but that type of thing will all 213 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 5: be looked at. How many times he was shot, where 214 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: he was shot. Does this possibly give us a scenario 215 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 5: of a justified taking of a life? Or does that 216 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 5: not line up with the physical evidence? And now that's 217 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: when typically calls we would see the prosecutor say this 218 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 5: is uh. This needs to be decided by what we 219 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 5: call a trier of fact. A trier of fact is 220 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: a jury or a judge got it. 221 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: So breaking news, the Gwynneth County released the off top 222 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: of the minutes ago, shut up? 223 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: What what? What y'all this is? 224 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: Come on ye, So to recap what ey is saying. 225 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: So, guys, when t Hood was shot on August Ay, 226 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: his family has topically a cute his girlfriend, Kelsey Frost, 227 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: and her brothers Ky Frost and Kerk Cross Junior of involvement. 228 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: The family is alleging that Kelsey set of Tea Hood 229 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: after a domestic violence incident. The family is alleging that 230 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: Kelsey called her brothers Kay and Kerk Cross Junior to 231 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: confront the rapper they're alleging got This confrontation reportedly resulted 232 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: and Kai allegedly shooting Tea Hood. So the autopsic came 233 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,119 Speaker 3: back today and this is what TMZ has learned. According 234 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: to a Gwinter County's MS report obtained by TMZ, te 235 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: Hood stuffer gunshot wounds to the back, afdomen, buttops and 236 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: lower right and left five. The report said Hood pulled 237 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: a gun during a heated argument with two other people 238 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: and sought his Georgia home, but someone opened fire and 239 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: self defense killing the rapper is unclear as of now. 240 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Who the shooter is. Tea Hood was Russian avalance it's 241 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: pronounced it. 242 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: Investigators were called to the scene on a report of 243 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: a dispute between two people at the house. Police have 244 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: identified ky Frost as the prime suspect, but, like Ebany said, 245 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: no charges have been filed as yet, Last but not 246 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: Leaves and I want Ebony to recap the all. 247 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: Time support and this as well. Okay, Last but not Leaves. 248 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: TMD also obtained another police report from March of this year, 249 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: where Kelsey called nine to one one and said Tee 250 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: Hood had made off with her Mercedes, sins and black 251 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: Mac Minnie following an argument after a night out at 252 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: the club. So Abony he got shot five times. 253 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: At least at least geez. 254 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 5: Well, now this this definitely complicates things in the sense 255 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 5: that now I think it will be very unlikely and unadvisable, 256 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: ill advised for this to not go to a jury 257 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: or a judge, like I think, I think any preluminary 258 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: conclusion Carlos that this law enforcement office of Gwinne County 259 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: makes that says, despite the fact that this young man 260 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 5: was shot five times at least in all of these 261 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: different areas, including his back, which tends to not so 262 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: closely correlate with defense posture any movement on them by 263 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 5: saying we've seen enough here and we're going to conclude 264 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: as a matter of a law and order that there's 265 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: nothing to see here and this was just self defense 266 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 5: slash defense of others, which I'll get to that in 267 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: a minute, and case closed. I think that would be 268 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: a mistake. I think that would be a tactical era 269 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 5: and I don't foresee that. I think with this report 270 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: coming out now indicating this level of gunfire and the 271 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 5: locations as to where they are, I think this now 272 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 5: has to move forward in a more traditional way. I 273 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 5: think this now has to be considered by a try 274 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: or of fact and a judge or jury, and only 275 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 5: a judge or jury Carlos would be able to evaluate 276 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 5: all of this evidence here from all of these witnesses, 277 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: look at all of this autopsy, hear from the medical 278 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 5: examiner himself here potentially from you know, defense witnesses, and 279 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: make a legal conclusion that would feel like justice. 280 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: So then, yeah, so based on this evidence, I want 281 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: to talk to you about this. 282 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: Okay, not to make this a rain thing, but in 283 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: most black households, if. 284 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: I I'm sisters, yeah, if your sister calls you and 285 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: says that my boyfriend allegedly put hands on me. And 286 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: I think. 287 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: Most brothers would definitely go to protect their sister, right, 288 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: So would that being said, would this be a. 289 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: If you were a part of Kai and Kirk's Frost 290 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: Junior's legal team. Yes, and they're allegedly. 291 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: Saying to you, our sister called us, this man was 292 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: putting hands on her. 293 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: We confronted him. 294 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 3: He pulled out a gun first, and we put out 295 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: a gun second, and then the rest is history is 296 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: that of good case for self defense? 297 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's back it up. First of all, let's talk. 298 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 5: So some people are gonna hear self defense, Carlos, and 299 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 5: they're gonna take it literally. So they're gonna say, even 300 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: if he was putting his hands on the sister, what 301 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 5: that's got to. 302 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: Do with you. 303 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 5: You took yourself over there per her request or urging 304 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 5: or invitation, whatever we want to say, right, and you 305 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 5: inserted yourself into the matter. 306 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: I want to clear this up just. 307 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: For anybody that it's confused when they hear self defense 308 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 5: and think what te Hood wasn't beating his ass, you know, 309 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 5: the brothers, So how is that illegal defense? 310 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Mechanism. 311 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 5: It's under the theory of defense of others. Okay, So 312 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 5: in Georgia, as in most states, the same level of 313 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 5: defense you could apply to yourself you get to reasonably 314 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: apply to others. So that is I just want to 315 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: lay out, Carlos, the legal mechanism that would allow a 316 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 5: successful legal defense to be mounted by the brother in 317 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 5: this case Kai that says he gets to protect his 318 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 5: sister or frankly, even a stranger. There doesn't need to 319 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 5: be a relationship between the person and the person they're protecting. 320 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: That's important to cite as well. If you or I 321 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: didn't know each other from a can of paint and 322 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: we happened to be at McDonald's and you saw a 323 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: man or beating me, you could use force, even deadly forced, 324 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 5: to protect me a woman you don't even know, because 325 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: that is what defense of self or defense of others 326 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: legally affords you. 327 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: That's clear. 328 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 5: Yes, now I want to talk about your comment, which 329 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 5: you made off the cuff, but it's very important because 330 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: we don't know what this jury potentially could look like 331 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 5: if this goes the way I think it's gonna go 332 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: based off of what I'm already seeing. 333 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 2: Just this little bit. 334 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: This is probably gonna go to trial. Okay. 335 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: And you said not to make it a black thing. 336 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 5: But if somebody, I'm a brother, if somebody beats to myself. 337 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: You've seen The Godfather, I presume. 338 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: The film, so clock White Clock, Italian team, Baby Clock, 339 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: White Folks team. 340 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Okay. 341 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 5: I think that is a very effective defense argument regardless 342 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: of race. Ninety nine point of any culture is going 343 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 5: and if you have it, I wouldn't be above playing 344 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 5: the clip in my closing argument. If I'm representing Kyle 345 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: Frost on defence. 346 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 4: Let's let's remind American jurors of our values around family 347 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: and protection? 348 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: Am I am I good? Am I good? 349 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: Or am I good? But not not? 350 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: You left the frame, Carlos, You're great frame. But you 351 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: see what I'm saying. That's how you connect that. And 352 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 5: you say, ever since the Dawn of Americana, brothers protect 353 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 5: their sisters. 354 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: And again I'm not this is impersonal. 355 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: I'm not saying this is how he should go, but 356 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: I'm saying this is how the argument is made. 357 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: And for those rings know what we're referring to. 358 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: In the first Godfather film, one of the oldest brothers, Sonny, 359 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: his sister is being beaten like a rag doll by 360 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 5: her husband, and she calls her brother. 361 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: Sonny, Oh my god, he's beating my ass. 362 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 5: Bye bye bah, And he's literally beating her as she's 363 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: calling Sonny runs his ass over there, and ultimately, and 364 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 5: let's clock this piece, it was a setup. 365 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: It actually was a setup in the godfather. 366 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: To get money out of the house and get him 367 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 5: somewhere else so they could kill Sonny. So this is 368 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 5: now where it's complicated. So there's the basic premise of 369 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 5: brothers protect sisters by any means, you know, But then 370 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 5: there's also, well, is there also an argument on the 371 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 5: other side, on the tea hood side, the victim side, 372 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: the prosecutor side, that says, well, how do we know 373 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 5: this isn't a broad manipulation by the Frost family if 374 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 5: you will to say yes, she is a victim of 375 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 5: domestic violence, because we already know videos are already starting 376 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 5: to come out and show them, like you said, in 377 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: police reports now on one calls going back at least 378 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: to twenty twenty four, maybe before. So that is going 379 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 5: to be laid in trial that there was a pattern 380 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: likely of domestic abuse by the hands of tea hood 381 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 5: to Kylie. 382 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 4: But then they're going to say, but. 383 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 5: How do we eliminate the possibility that, due to that 384 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: pattern of abuse, Kylie didn't say enough is enough? 385 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 4: And I'm going to. 386 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 5: What's the word construe and create a scenario in which 387 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 5: deadly force. 388 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: Will be used against my abuser. 389 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: But here's the thing about that, and this goes back 390 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 5: to the origin of the battered woman's defense, which didn't 391 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: used to exist in a big way until the Betty 392 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 5: Broadery trial. 393 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite trials. 394 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 5: So if you ever want to do true crime with 395 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: Carlos King the archives, baby call me. 396 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: They had a TV special two years ago two. 397 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yeah, Dirty John season two anyway, yes, yes, yes. 398 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 5: But here's the thing about the battered woman's defense, Carlos King. 399 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: It must be used in the moment, meaning it is 400 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 5: not legally justifiable to go. Essentially, what the law would 401 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: say is retaliate, so to kill or harm after the fact. 402 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 5: So so so a man or woman could be meeting 403 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: someone else for years, actually beating them, actually harming them, 404 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: causing them harm, great physical harm, almost debt right. And 405 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 5: the law does not recognize a legal right, a justifiable 406 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: legal right to come after the abuser unless it is 407 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 5: in real time what we called the heat of the moment. 408 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 5: If it's any time other than that, that is non 409 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: justifiable assault or homicide or whatever it is. So what 410 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: I'm framing is that there is an argument that will 411 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: be considered, I'm sure. And this is what t Hood's 412 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 5: family is already suggesting, right, is that Okay, you know 413 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: she let's say, you know, she's this alleged victim, and 414 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 5: because she decided she was tired of being a victim, 415 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: she orchestrated. That's the allegation from the family, right, is 416 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 5: that this is now an orchestrated effort to set our 417 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 5: son t Hood up to be murdered, to be dealt with, 418 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 5: to in the abuse cycle in this particular way. The 419 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 5: only problem is it is still murder if he wasn't 420 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 5: if this was not all authentic, if this wasn't a 421 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 5: genuine attack, she was being genuinely abused in real time 422 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 5: and the brothers were called in a real authentic way. 423 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: If there's any discovery that there was any setup or 424 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 5: planning or we're gonna do, that undermines the whole defense. 425 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: That's actually very fascinating and I want to read this 426 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 3: to you and the rain drops. 427 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: Ebony just face on. 428 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 3: In August twelfth report from Gwyneth County that spells out 429 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: what happened that fad of night. So, according to Greneth County, 430 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: the shooter remain unseen at the time of the incident, 431 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: and both the shooter and witnesses continued to cooperate with investigators. 432 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: Preliminary information indicates that a domestic disturbance occurred of the residence, 433 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: resulting in a female victim sustaining physical injuries. Okay, So 434 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: what Ebany is saying to you guys, which this is, 435 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: which this is corroborating, is. 436 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: Like actual beating was happening in real time exactly. 437 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: So the victim sustained physical injuries at the time of 438 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: the shooting, and that the shooter remained on the seeing 439 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 3: of the crime, cooperating with investigat with with the with 440 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: the police, the shooter and they're not naming people. 441 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: The shooter who arrived at the residence after mm hm 442 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 6: the physical altercation had taken place, separated himself from the 443 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 6: residence before the shooting occurred. 444 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: I saw that. 445 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 5: I thought that was very interesting. So then I was like, 446 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 5: so did he come back. Yeah, yes, so that needs 447 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: to be explained. That's a whole. That's what we call 448 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: a hole in the story, right what you just pointed out, Carlos, 449 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 5: let you separate yours that you left, but then obviously 450 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 5: you must have come back and then completed the shooting, 451 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 5: and then you stayed on site to cooperate, almost as 452 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: if you knew you had questions to account for. And 453 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: almost one could argue as if you knew you had 454 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: good facts to justify the shooting. Who all speculative, but 455 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 5: could either to play out. I want to talk about 456 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 5: what would be required for ky Frost, who is the 457 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 5: named lead suspect, to be successful in the self defense 458 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 5: slash defense of others effort. It doesn't require that she 459 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: was about to die, because a lot of people think 460 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 5: that they think well. 461 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: In order for him to justifiably use deadly force. 462 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: Against t Hood, certainly t Hood must have been trying 463 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: to kill his sister. 464 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: That is not required. 465 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: That is not required. 466 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 5: In the state of Georgia. You can use force up 467 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: to deadly force, which is what we're talking about. This 468 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 5: is a deadly force case if you believe reasonably. That's 469 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: a very important word. Carlos, reasonably believe that yourself or 470 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 5: the other in this case, Kylie was under threat or 471 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: force that would cause significant harm is a high enough threshold. 472 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 5: She doesn't have to be almost killed. You don't have 473 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: to believe that she's going to be killed. You just 474 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 5: have to believe that she's going to continue to be 475 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: significantly harmed. But the law does require something called proportionality, 476 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: that the force you use, even up to force, is 477 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: proportionate to the harm that you reasonably believed was being 478 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: out executed or possible. So let's say you're the prosecutor. Okay, 479 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: now you want to say, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 480 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: you may very well believe and empathize with the defendant 481 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: because some of you are fathers, some of you are brothers, 482 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 5: some of you are mama bear mothers who believe that 483 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 5: if you saw your daughter being jumped on, beat down, 484 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: you too would do what we're saying mister Kai did. 485 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 5: But in what world does that require you to stop 486 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 5: the harm the deceased allegedly did? In what world does 487 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 5: that require. 488 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: A bullet in the back, a bullet in the butt, 489 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: a bullet in the leg. 490 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: And see what I'm saying, so, now. 491 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: We're cracking the proportionality piece of the defense argument that, Okay, 492 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 5: we can understand somebody wanting to put a stop to 493 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: their sister being harmed, but we're now saying that the 494 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 5: proportionality of the force used, even if it was even 495 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 5: if we could say, hey, if he shot him once 496 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 5: or twice, I guess, but he didn't shoot him once 497 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: or twice. 498 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. 499 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: This is what you call overkill. 500 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: This is what you call h of. It's a word 501 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: not revenge. This is vigilante killing. 502 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: This is a brother seeking revenge vigilante style, over months 503 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: and months and months, if not years and years and 504 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 5: years of physical and emotional abuse suffered at the hands 505 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: of his sister. And while we can emotionally understand the 506 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: desire to do that, this state's laws do not recognize 507 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 5: vigilante justice. And on that basis, you must find this 508 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 5: defendant guilty of second Now, it's not gonna be first 509 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 5: degree murder. I can tell you that right now. 510 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: I don't. 511 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't And what explained first 512 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: degree murder to and why it would it be that? 513 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 5: Yes, so first degree murder requires the highest level of 514 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 5: intent Carlos and has no mitigators, So that would be 515 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 5: I'm coming here for no other reason than to cause 516 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 5: your death. The mere fact that the brother was responsive, 517 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: for all the facts that we're hearing right, was responsive 518 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: to a domestic dispute kind of takes that all the 519 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: way off the table. 520 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: Okay, Now there's second degree murder, which may be on 521 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: the table, which. 522 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 5: Says that there might have been some mitigators, but ultimately 523 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 5: you intended to cause the death of another. You had 524 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 5: that intention, and there was not enough to justify it. Okay, 525 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 5: so maybe you went to break it up, but at 526 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 5: some point that intention switched to no, I'm gonna kill you. 527 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 5: That would a second degree. And then we've got what, 528 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: just looking at this real quick with what we know, 529 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 5: I think is more appropriate, probably an imperfect self defense model, 530 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 5: which says there was probably some real self defense or 531 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: defense of others intentionality here, but you overdid it. You 532 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 5: overdid it, You did too much, It was out of proportion. 533 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: Or even if you believe you needed to shoot him 534 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: five times to get him off your sister, that wasn't reasonable. 535 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: You might have really believed that, but. 536 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 5: A reasonable person would not have acted in that way. 537 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 5: So thus that would be an imperfect self. 538 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: Defense makes sense, makes sense, and that is what Teahood's 539 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: family is pretty much suggesting that if there was self 540 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: defense at the shopper five times so ebony is active 541 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: in terms of the sort of like world. 542 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: It was the family saying that that could be the case. 543 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 3: One thing I want to address to before I let 544 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 3: you go, Ebony is, according to TMZ, tee Hood had 545 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: a brush with death months before the fatal shooting. Tea 546 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: Hood was struck by gunfire just months before he was shot, 547 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: did in his home. TMZ obtained a police support in 548 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: Georgia that stays tee Hood showed up to a hospital 549 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: in late April with gunshot wounds. Now, this is from 550 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: the Calb County Police Department. The report says that the 551 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: police department in the calv County was called to a 552 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 3: shell gas station for a report of a shooting. Cops 553 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: say they encountered a woman with a gun shot injury 554 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: to her leg and approximately ten bullet hill hay sinks 555 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: in the parking lot and roadway. Police say about twenty 556 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 3: five minutes after the report of the shooting came in, 557 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 3: they were advised a man later identified as Tea Hood 558 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: showed up at a nearby hospital with guns shot wounds. 559 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 2: This report is from April twenty eight. 560 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: A few days later, Tea Hood posted images on social 561 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: media of himself in the hospital. Did there are reports 562 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: that are alleging they're alleging that Tea Hood has had 563 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 3: passed past behavior allegedly abusing women. That's what people are alleging. 564 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 5: And again, that's gonna come if this goes to trial, 565 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 5: as I expect it will, unless he takes a plea, 566 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 5: which they may. 567 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: That's another story for We'll get to that in the 568 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: future episode. 569 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 5: But like what a plea could look like, right, and 570 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 5: why a prosecutor's office might be incentivized to go that 571 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 5: route if it goes to trial. All that's coming in 572 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 5: Carlos I mean not not saying it's going to come 573 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 5: into evidence, but they will, meaning the defense will try 574 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 5: to bring that because that helps their argument that the 575 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 5: deceased he Hood is just a problem, that he is 576 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 5: just a problem. He is a threat to public safety, 577 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 5: he is a threat to the safety of others. Essentially, 578 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 5: it's a he had it coming defense, which we've seen before. 579 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 4: He had it coming if. 580 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 5: It wasn't going to be the defendant defending his sister 581 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 5: from a beating. It was gonna be somebody's husband, somebody's daddy, 582 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 5: somebody at some point was going to put this bad 583 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 5: actor down. 584 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: That becomes the defense. 585 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: This is interesting as hell, Carlos, I gotta tell. 586 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 2: You, these are I'm serious. 587 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 5: These are some interesting facts because this involves family, loyalty 588 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 5: and protection. This involves celebrity because te Hood is a 589 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 5: reper in his own right. Obviously the Frost are an entity, 590 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 5: you know, So this is that wealth and celebrity. This 591 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 5: is also the politics local politics. That's why I'm gonna 592 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: do some investigation between now in our next episode, the 593 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 5: distinctions of Gyne County Decalb County, you know, because all 594 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: of these things play apart. You know, I've in with 595 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 5: with my former practice. I've had clients I'm representing that 596 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 5: maybe they cat cases. My case is in Durham, but 597 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: they got another case in Orange County, they got something 598 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 5: in Wait County. So I got to get on the 599 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 5: phone and we gotta we got to manage all the 600 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 5: politics of that as a part of the defense strategy, 601 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 5: because I can't do my job effectively if I don't 602 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 5: know how all of these political elements are landing. 603 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: This is deep, This is very deep. 604 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: It is it is. It is obviously our hearts go 605 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 3: out to Tee Hood's family who obviously you know, loss 606 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: of loss of brother, loss of son. Yeah, yeah, so 607 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: Ahar goes out to them and all her goles out 608 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: to healthy who you know was the victim. Allegend, I'll 609 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: just tell a leegend for the sake of it, do 610 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 3: message of you. So harges out to the Frost family, 611 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 3: to the family. 612 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: Harlow's put on social media that for her she still 613 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: lost the love of her life. Her words, not ours, That's. 614 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: What she say that she is. 615 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 5: And so it would be interesting if this does go 616 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 5: to trial, if she takes the stand, and if that 617 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 5: is beneficial to the brother's case, if it goes that way, 618 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 5: or she sounds like right now she would serve to 619 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 5: humanize Tea Hood. Actually, so this is all very fascinating. 620 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 3: Yes, And in our next episode the rain drops, this 621 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: will be a sory similar to the Diddy trial that 622 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: Evan I did recently. Obviously, this has not gone to trial, 623 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 3: no charges having fouled, no arrested and made officially, But 624 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: what I will say is in our next episode. I 625 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 3: do want to, like Evan he said, break down the 626 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: politics regarding the counties, but I also. 627 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: Want to break down which was a great cliffhanger. 628 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: Kelthy writing a note stating that this was the love 629 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: of her life and what that means for this case? 630 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: Is it a case of Stockholm syndrome? Does that? Does 631 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: that hurt her brother's case if he is involved allegedly. 632 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: So there's there's much more to dive into this, which 633 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: is why she and I will be making this a 634 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: series as we track down every case, every situation because 635 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: as of today, the autopic came out, and trust me, 636 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: by the time of the next recording, there's going to 637 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 3: be more information. 638 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is just getting started. So this 639 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 5: is a perfect time rain Drops to clock in as 640 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 5: we cover this. You know, Gavel to Gavel as we. 641 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 3: Say yes, Emika, well, thank you so much, give baby 642 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: Liberty my. 643 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 5: Love and I'll see you in the next Love you darling, 644 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 5: see you soon, Bye rain Drops. 645 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: Bye bye. 646 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 647 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership. 648 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: With the Lack of Effect Network. 649 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 650 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore