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Speaker 1: episode number eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We're

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys football with you guys for an hour. How's

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Speaker 1: everybody feeling this morning? Great? Derekly good? Yeah? How are you?

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Speaker 1: topic for the show is actually today for the show, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, ye asked Dave. Okay, good. Today, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start a series that we're gonna run over the next

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Speaker 1: the positions and we're gonna talk about where the Cowboys sit.

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Speaker 1: We've gone through the period of player acquisition. For the

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Speaker 1: we start the season in September. So we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about where the Cowboys were last year where they Did

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Speaker 1: you read my article yesterday? Yes I did. I did. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I read it, And that gave me an idea for

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Speaker 1: this show. That tells you how much I'm in tune

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Speaker 1: to what's happening on our site, even when it's in Spanish.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, can you read Spanish, because yes,

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Speaker 1: I think that's one position that has had a lot

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Speaker 1: We have to hit one Malie Collins, since the last

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Speaker 1: He was drinking listeners. Don't don't just don't Collins, what's up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: about you know, actually this is gonna be a little

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Speaker 1: can kill it. Personally as a person that likes like

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Speaker 1: a lot better than today. I don't think he's bad.

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Speaker 1: He's better than Kobe Bryant was. He's absolutely he's much

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the second segment of the Break

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Speaker 1: Life from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: football today. Our topic and actually our positions that we're

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Speaker 1: going to focus in on include the secondary safety position

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Speaker 1: and the cornerback position. Let's start that discussion first with

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Speaker 1: looking at all the players that you have in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: and this is both safety he's and cornerbacks. Who's the

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Speaker 1: best at the Cowboys have right now? Oh? Damn nice?

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Speaker 1: I mean I stamped you guys on this one. I

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Speaker 1: didn't expect to stomp you right out of the gate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and we knew it was coming. You didn't

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Speaker 1: know it was coming. We're going off potential or no

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Speaker 1: best players. The best player right now based upon what

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Speaker 1: you've seen so far. Who's up, Haters, It's Jeff Heath.

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Speaker 1: He come at me, Yeah, Jeff tweet me. How did

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Speaker 1: I know that was? Because a football player that plays

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Speaker 1: defensive back right now, he's the best football Does that

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Speaker 1: scare you? No, Jeff Heath's a beast. You gotta have

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Speaker 1: players like that. You don't want you don't want to

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Speaker 1: be your best. Shut No, I'm just saying, though he's

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Speaker 1: a good let's not go overboard with this I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's he's made some places. This

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Speaker 1: is this is the this is the line that I

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Speaker 1: like to use about Jeff Heath, which, well, it's ironic

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Speaker 1: because of what I just said. If Jeff Heath is

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Speaker 1: the far and away best player in your secondary, you're

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Speaker 1: probably in trouble. That's my point. If he's the worst

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Speaker 1: player in your secondary, your secondary is probably pretty damn good,

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Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, so I just said Jeff Jeff Heath

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Speaker 1: is the best player in the secondary. He's the best

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Speaker 1: proven player. Okay, but I think the Cowboys have done

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Speaker 1: an amazing job of surrounding him with talent. I'm changing

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Speaker 1: I don't think that'll be true for very long. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna change it up, so you don't think it'll be

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Speaker 1: true that he's the best. There's a new expansion team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Salt Lake City gets a team whatever,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and you have to protect two the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs from getting picked by the expansion team. It's easy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: pick them. It's gonna be Cheeto Bay and it's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be Jordan Lewis. Yeah. I agree with that, but

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Speaker 1: that's because of potential. It's not because of what they

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Speaker 1: are right now? Yeah, right, two different questions, yep, right,

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Speaker 1: and so who is your best player? M I mean

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Speaker 1: I would go with one of those two guys, either

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Speaker 1: Cheeto or Jordan. They're pretty close to me. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I just can't put them there based on what I like,

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Speaker 1: based on potential. Basically, I can't. I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have seen it a little more than over

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Speaker 1: the last four games. If right now you said, okay,

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Speaker 1: you have to pick a player, like save a player

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Speaker 1: you're keeping him, yeah, for the future, you know everything

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Speaker 1: you pick, you wouldn't choose Jeff and now I think

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Speaker 1: it's god. He could play, he could play safety, he

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Speaker 1: could play corner. He's gonna play corner, I think. But

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Speaker 1: you know he could play that. He's got the body

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Speaker 1: for it. I mean, he's it's fine. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: two different questions, I think Jeff is the best proven

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Speaker 1: player out there right now. If you were doing what

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Speaker 1: Nick is suggesting, like saving guys from an expansion draft,

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Speaker 1: I would maybe make Jeff one of my first available.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want to lose Cheeto Jordan, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to lose Xavier. Right now, I'm actually and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want to lose Byron at this point. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get from him, But I think Jeff

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Speaker 1: Heath is an unappreciated player. I think I have no

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Speaker 1: problems with him being a starting safety on this team. Um,

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Speaker 1: and he's led the defense an interception three years in

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Speaker 1: a row or tied for the lead at least, so

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Speaker 1: so tell me you've got a way better resume than

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Speaker 1: everybody else. Between these two things, which do you think

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Speaker 1: is a bigger concern for the Cowboys this year that

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Speaker 1: arguably they don't have a true free safety? Or two

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Speaker 1: the inexperienced at cornerback? Say seriously, yeah, come on, is

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Speaker 1: this a serious question? It's a serious question. Are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? It's a serious question. Why Why wouldn't it

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Speaker 1: be a serious question. She's just gonna what's worried about cornerback?

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Speaker 1: Do you not think that inexperience you don't have to wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, do you have a single corner Do you

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Speaker 1: have a single cornerback on this team that you would

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Speaker 1: consider to be experienced? And you're going to be in

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Speaker 1: a division where you're gonna be facing Odell Beckham junior.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be facing facing al Shan Jeffrey. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you really don't you have to face towards the end

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Speaker 1: of the last year to feel confident all my corners. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I feel I agree with her. I mean, which, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta put it to the test. We might be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but they showed some real potential down the final month

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Speaker 1: of the season. They're young, they're athletic, they're confident, they're

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Speaker 1: talented um and so I mean, yeah, well, yeah, would

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Speaker 1: I prefer to have Patrick Peterson and freaking Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: Sure I would, but it's not realistic. So I think

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Speaker 1: they did a good job addressing it. I think they've

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Speaker 1: got four guys who can do the job at a

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Speaker 1: pretty to really good level. And that's all I can

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Speaker 1: ask for. The one thing I would throw back at

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Speaker 1: that I agree with you that, yeah, I like these

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Speaker 1: young cornerbacks. My question is still, do you don't have

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Speaker 1: a single guy that's an experienced cornerback, Like it's one

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Speaker 1: thing if you have, like last year they had Orlando

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Speaker 1: Scandrick and then they had all the young guys right

552
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Speaker 1: to your starter. Anthony Brown just doesn't get any credit.

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Speaker 1: Do you consider him to be an experienced guy that

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Speaker 1: that has the kind of experience that those guys can

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00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: can glean off of. I think he's gotten something like

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Speaker 1: twenty eight starts. I mean, but he's just good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean I get it there, but I mean experience,

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Speaker 1: he's great, But he's experienced. Okay, yeah, kind, I mean

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Speaker 1: I just think at this point, if you're good good,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown is an experienced because he's I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: done it now. For this is his his third year. He's

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Speaker 1: got two years worth of starts. Also, and um, people,

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Speaker 1: he got bench the last year he did? He did,

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Speaker 1: he did, You're right, um, by a better corner like

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Speaker 1: sixth round cornerbacks should get you know, benched by second

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Speaker 1: and third round cornerbacks. The surprising thing too, like and

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00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: you know it changed after the Chargers game. You know,

568
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: they threw guys in there, they started him. The secondary

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00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: looked completely different. Jordan Lewis played in like fifteen of

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Speaker 1: sixteen games, Like I think the opener was the only

571
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: game that he didn't play at all. That he's not like,

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00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: he's absolutely he's not not experienced. Like and not only that,

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Speaker 1: like going back to the confidence thing, that dude doesn't

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Speaker 1: give a f what like he No, I'm not worried

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Speaker 1: about that in the slightest about How about what Christopher

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00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: Shard said about him this weekend. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: really good. You know, he talked a lot about cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: big corners, why they like, you know, length, all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and then he was asked about Jordan Lewis by you well, yeah, yeah.

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00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I kind of put him on

581
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the spot for a second, but he can handle anything.

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00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: That guy's a stud when he's a defensive coordinator here,

583
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: someday that's gonna be awesome. But um, someday whenever that is.

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Speaker 1: But he he was like, well, you know, there's exceptions

585
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Speaker 1: to every rule, and he's an exception. And he talked

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Speaker 1: about just his work ethic and just how competitive he

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Speaker 1: is and how he kind of fights to overcome the

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Speaker 1: you know, lack of size. So I mean I think

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00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: that he really likes him. But you know, he also

590
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: likes Byron Jones. I know we're talking about him, and

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Speaker 1: I mean that's one of the first things he did

592
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: was just moved him over. Yeah, and that's interesting. I

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Speaker 1: want to go to that Chris Rashard talked about how

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Speaker 1: he really likes his size. Is his athleticism? Um, what

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Speaker 1: take me back to two thousand What was this rookie

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00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: of two thousand and fifteen fifteen? Take me back to

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Speaker 1: that season where he did play more corner What did

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00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: what did? What were your recollections of him as a cornerback?

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00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: How how good was he in those games where he

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Speaker 1: had opportunities to Jarvis Landry. That's all I can think of,

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00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: is Jarvis Landry just killing him in that Miami game.

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00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: That's when I thought, right then, okay, oh, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: you thought he was a safety at that when the

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Speaker 1: game Romo came back. Yeah, yeah, that game. Um, Jarvis

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Speaker 1: Landry's was really good. I know, I know he was good.

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Speaker 1: And at the time he he wasn't though. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he wasn't considered what he is

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Speaker 1: now just this catch monster that just catches everything. But

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00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: like he was a good, solid rookie receiver and he

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Speaker 1: was having his you know, viron Jubs was having a

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: tough day. Um, but I think he you know, he

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Speaker 1: had some decent moments there. He was going up against

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Speaker 1: tight ends some and I think he did well against

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Speaker 1: tight ends that rookie year. That's my main memory of

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Speaker 1: that is like they cross trained him all through training

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Speaker 1: camp and then he was just kind of the extra dB,

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Speaker 1: like he was really only out there and nickel and

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00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: dime packages played great against tight ends, like he just

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Speaker 1: he kicked zach Ertz's but at least once or twice,

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Speaker 1: and that he played really well against Gronk, even like

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Speaker 1: Gronk wound up having a really good day anyway, just well,

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00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: the game got away from him. They like it was

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Speaker 1: ten to six in the third quarter and then thirty

624
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: to six was the final score or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't move him outside until late in the

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Speaker 1: season because of injuries, I think, and he didn't handle

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Speaker 1: it well. But again, I mean, you're talking you switched

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Speaker 1: his job on the fly with five or six days notice,

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Speaker 1: which it's the NFL, that type of stuff happens. Can't

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Speaker 1: completely let him off the hook. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's the same as telling him in February that he's

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Speaker 1: going to change jobs and giving him eight months to

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Speaker 1: work at it with a guy who has a pretty

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Speaker 1: good track record of developing corners. So then, and that's

635
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: another part. Having Chris Richard here gives me confidence that

636
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: these cornerbacks are gonna learn a thing or two from him.

637
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: So you know, there are certain guys that I see

638
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: as like robot like mentality, the type of players that

639
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: you give them a task or something and they they're

640
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: gonna do it and they're just gonna focus and get

641
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: it done or whatever. He's one of those. I see

642
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Sean Leys one of those guys. He does his program

643
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: to do certain things Byron Jones. I see him just

644
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: like that type of player, great athlete, and I just

645
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: think he just hasn't had the right coaching. I think

646
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: maybe with the proper coaching, he would really be good

647
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: because he has everything that he's needed and he just

648
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: needs to be taken, like pointed to the right direction

649
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: and giving better instructions to help him. I think you're

650
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: right about that, And maybe what I would say differently

651
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: than what about better coaching, whatever, but just a different

652
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: approach of you are a cornerback, Like he got here

653
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: and he said, this is your position. And I think players,

654
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: I really do. I think their position flex players have

655
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: really been hurt almost as much as they have as

656
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: they have gained. I think Tyrone Crawford is another guy.

657
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: What are you, Kyle wilbur What are you? And it's tough.

658
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: It's tough for them because you know you play and

659
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, you got great value because they use

660
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: you as the extra line back or the extra corner,

661
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: the extra deal. Well, and even Steven said it the

662
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: other day. We could move him back if we need to,

663
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: which I hate that I do too. I mean, like,

664
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: tell the guy what he is. And I thought that

665
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: when Christopher Shard came in here and did that. He

666
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: has a vision for him, right, and that's what's good. Yeah,

667
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I love I love that idea of just putting out

668
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: one place. And I thought, that's a great example Tyron Crawford.

669
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I think Tyron Crawford could have been so much more

670
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: of an impactful player if they would have figured out

671
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: early on, here's a vision we have for the player.

672
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: This is the position, and put him at that position,

673
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: and we're going to keep him there and if we

674
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: have injuries in the season, well just as best we can.

675
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is, as soon as

676
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: we get finished adjusting, we're getting him back to the

677
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: position where he should be right right. And you know,

678
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I thought all along that he would be a three

679
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: technique defensive tackle. That's what I that's what I feel

680
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: like is his best position. Um, but that's what they

681
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: gave him that deal to do, right, I mean, that's

682
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: what the contract was. And and you know, now he

683
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: moves him to end and then everyone goes to the

684
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: same websites look at salaries and then they just rank

685
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: defensive ends and oh my god, look at it. He's

686
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: making this much money. He doesn't have the sacks when

687
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: really he's a defensive tackle out there planing. So that's

688
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: why I think he's slimmed down to the point of

689
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: no more excuses here, I'm a defensive end. Which that's

690
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: funny that you brought up Wilbur because that's exactly what

691
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: Wilbur did. Yeah, last he slimmed down. He was like,

692
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: they can't put me at end even if they want to,

693
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: because I can't do it at this way. And so yeah,

694
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: maybe Tyrone's got a similar idea of this. Yeah, and

695
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: maybe that's the right thing to do. Instead of trying

696
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: to kind of be both, get to a size that

697
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: makes you optimal at one, focus in on one, do

698
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: your best the one I think that gives players better chances.

699
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: And I understand position flex. I'm not trying to presume

700
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I know more than these personnel guys or these coaches,

701
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: and position flex matters in today's NFL where you have

702
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: a limited number of resources for game day and that

703
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But still, all that being said, I

704
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: think there have been so many examples of guys that

705
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't think have reached their full potential, and at

706
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: least part of the reason has to be factored in

707
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: that maybe it's because they're moving around so much. Yeah no,

708
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, sorry, but commit to commit to your idea.

709
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, go get a safety instead of

710
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: trying to switch somebody to safety when you realize that

711
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: it's not working out. And this is definitely not the

712
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: same case and not the same scenario. But for example,

713
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath when Dan Bailey got hurt. Jeff is not

714
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: a kicker, but he went in and kicked the ball.

715
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: And in case of emergency, that's when I when you

716
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: talk about position flex, that's how I see that in

717
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: case of emergency, we need to we need to move

718
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: you here. Let's put you in this position, and you

719
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: can do it. But you're focused on just one area,

720
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: one spot and that's it, so you can be successful

721
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: at it. You know, I've always said this about running backs,

722
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: and I've always said guys like you know, Emmitt Smith

723
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders are two of the best running backs to

724
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: ever play. I always thought Walter Payton was the best

725
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: football player to ever play running back. And I think

726
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: it's just a different mentality. They're breat far to me

727
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: was a better was one of the better football players

728
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: that played quarterback. Um. And I think Jeff Heath going

729
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: back that he's a football player. That's what he is.

730
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's an example of that. You know,

731
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: who can kick well? I can kick, I can return

732
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: upon if I need to, you know, so score well

733
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: in a point pass kick competition. Oh yeah, this probably

734
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: could do a little bit of everything because he's a

735
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: football player. He's play football player, all right. One of

736
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: the questions I have for you guys, what if you

737
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: had to if you had to narrow it down to

738
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: one thing that you could foresee as a big surprise

739
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: that would come out of this unit at the end

740
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: of this season, what would you think that would be?

741
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Start with you, Nick, big surprise. Yeah, there's something something

742
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: that that most people would probably say I would not

743
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: have expected that, but you could foresee it happening. Well, Um,

744
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: maybe like trading for Earl. I mean, if you're gonna

745
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: just hard count me, I'll just go on all sides.

746
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's fair to if anybody saw it definitely

747
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: doesn't see it coming. Um. I don't know if I

748
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: see it as clearly anymore, but I mean I would,

749
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: I would do it. I think there's a need. I mean,

750
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: but I keep saying this, more these days go, there's

751
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: more these OTAs go buy, and you're not doing it.

752
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: You're you're really hamstringing your veteran safety to come in

753
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: here and be a veteran player the guy. If you

754
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: were going to do that, Earl Thomas needed to be

755
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: starting the OTA's and starting the conditioning program and saying, hey,

756
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm a veteran. I've seen it. Because you get leading

757
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: this group, right type thing. Yeah, you get a little

758
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: too late in the game, and it's kind of like,

759
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: you know what, we were running these drills three weeks ago.

760
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: You know you're not that good. You know that kind

761
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I don't know if Cavon is gonna

762
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: be throwing that out there, say that, but hey, you know,

763
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. I mean, these guys,

764
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: you're you're also getting them for their veteran experience in leadership,

765
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: and they need to kind of be here for that

766
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: to do it. But I think I think they'll do

767
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: something at some point. They're gonna get a right in here.

768
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, well, I was hoping he would stick

769
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: with just Earl because then that allows me to be

770
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: more general because I don't think it'll be Earl. But

771
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: I'll say it for the millionth time, I just it

772
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: doesn't fit this team'smo to go to training camp with

773
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: three safeties, two of whom are unproven. It just doesn't.

774
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: And then have I mean, okay, we can move Byron

775
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: or Cheeto back to safety. That doesn't make sense either.

776
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: That compromises your depth at cornerback again, Like I mean,

777
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you would be asking Byron to start all over again

778
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: after making a switch, maybe taking your most or your

779
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: second most impressive corner physically and moving him to a

780
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: new position. I hate that. I don't I don't know

781
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: who it'll be, but I just I think I think

782
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: there will be a safety on this roster that's not

783
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: here now by the time we leave for training camp.

784
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: I have another answer to this, but I want to

785
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: get ambers. I was just gonna say, what would be

786
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: surprising to me is that they do have a successful

787
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: season with the safeties that they have right now, that

788
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: would be surprising to me. According to them, they're, oh,

789
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: they're we're okay, right now, We're I will this. We've

790
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: spent three months bashing the guy. But Xavier Woods looks

791
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: like he's having a pretty nice little off season. Got

792
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: a little peak at his conditioning yesterday or was that

793
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: two days two days ago? He was you want to

794
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: talk about those other two rookies. He's a guy that,

795
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion, when he had opportunities last year, he

796
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: impressed far more than he disappointed. I would not He's good.

797
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: He's good, But is he there yet to be main guy?

798
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that. But but what I do know is,

799
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: and again, that's that seems to be the m of

800
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: this team now, is that they're willing to draft guys

801
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: and they're willing to get him on the field. So

802
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: whether he's all the way there or not, they certainly

803
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: are sewing to take their risk. Yeah, They're willing to

804
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: go out there and get those guys on the field earlier.

805
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I'll take it back because I could have. I thought

806
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: about saying, I'll be surprised if Xavier Woods starts sixteen

807
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: games at safety and play as well, but I wouldn't.

808
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised by that. What would surprise me

809
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: is if he's just handed the job and training camp

810
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: and there isn't some type of real competition for it,

811
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: which is what's going to compete with him. Though whoever

812
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: they bring in, right, you're saying, no, that's it has

813
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: to be another person. There isn't a body on this

814
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: team that makes sense as a competitor for him for

815
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: that job, which is why I think they will add one.

816
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: One guy that I think that is. I don't think

817
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: we've talked about all offseason. I really think could factor

818
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: into this. Duke Thomas at corner. I do. I like

819
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: him a lot. I think he may like him a lot.

820
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: I think he can. I think he I think he

821
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: make this team. I think he was gonna make it

822
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, six corners because as something is one

823
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: of those can or two of us can say Thomas

824
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: plays really well, and now now you have a little

825
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: bit more corners and you don't know what you have

826
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: at safety. That's what it'll get. Cheeto moved, which I

827
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: don't you know at this point. Now, I said it

828
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: last year, and I'm okay with it last year, But

829
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm not okay with moving a corner

830
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: if he's going through the offseason, I don't like moving him.

831
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: I hate the I hate that, like, well, we got

832
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: a few guys who were pretty good at this, so

833
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: let's get rid of one of them. Not get rid

834
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: of him again. You know, coverage skills and if he

835
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: can do that what he did to Marshawn Lynch, I'm

836
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: talking about Cheeto. Yeah, he goes safety. To me, she

837
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: does arguably your best corner. That's the part I don't

838
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: like him back is if you got a guy who

839
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: is one of your top two cornerbacks and you got

840
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: to move him. Now, to me, that diminishes. Now, of

841
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: course you got you feel like you got good talent left.

842
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, what made Darren Woodson

843
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: so good that he could play in this lot? Okay?

844
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: Could he have played corner you think at his size?

845
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he would he would have tried.

846
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have tried it. Yeah, he'd to try it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm That's what I'm talking about though. That

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Speaker 1: He could cover there, he would He had cornerback type skills.

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Speaker 1: But he really was built like a safety, played like

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Speaker 1: a safety, and was smart like a safety. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the line right out of Stephen

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Speaker 1: Jones's mouth from February, which is that it's harder to

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Speaker 1: find a good cornerback than a good safety. I don't

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Speaker 1: mess with a good thing. I disagree with that. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's not well. I know they haven't found a safety

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Speaker 1: since Darren Woodson. So how can you say it's easy

858
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Speaker 1: to find a safety when they can't find one. Have

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Speaker 1: they found a good cornerback? Yeah? This tell me when

860
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Speaker 1: they've had the winds the last time they had a

861
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Speaker 1: great cornerback. It's not an easy thing to find. They've

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Speaker 1: had some good ones, lasting a great one, because that's

863
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about, the safety. Youre talking about a

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Speaker 1: great when you're talking about a guy that's, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame worthy. You haven't found a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame worthy safety. So Terrence hanging, Hall of Fame, worthy

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He's good. He was good. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he was great, do you. Longevity matters, but as

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Speaker 1: far as just his play on the field, I don't

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Speaker 1: think he was a great player for the Cowboys Gate

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Speaker 1: he was between good and great. If the trio of Cheeto,

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Speaker 1: Byron and Jordan is as good as I hope they

873
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Speaker 1: can be, I just feel like you should be able

874
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Speaker 1: to throw somebody back there and it won't be the

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Speaker 1: all those things matter, right of course. You know what

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Speaker 1: that he texted Jordan Lewis and was like, Hey, you

884
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885
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,839
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Speaker 1: It was seriously eight forty five on a Tuesday, and

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888
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Speaker 1: I talked to him. He's like, I'm here every night.

889
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: I just what else am I gonna do? Those those

890
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: three live here. I love it. Let's go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's there's there's a short list. I mean Ryan Switzer

892
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893
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895
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00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,799
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Speaker 1: for young guys, that's absolutely Dr Jordan Lewis on Draft

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Speaker 1: Ye love it. All right, let's take our final break.

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Speaker 1: I got another read here. My friend Earl sent this

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Speaker 1: where's he from? Um? Just that way? Well, actually he's

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Speaker 1: hold on, you're not gonna trade in your old tidy whities. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who wrote this, but no

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Speaker 1: one's no Yeah, I don't an Earl sent it to me,

965
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: but Earl somebody wrote it for no one's trading out

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Speaker 1: the tidy whities. Okay, that that was like nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: No one's doing that, but just you're you're Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 1: Some poor sap out there. Not me. Not. I'm a

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Speaker 1: I don't do. Some people don't do laundry at training

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Speaker 1: That's kind of necessary. Those two things didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: a couple of days there. It's hard to pack. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to pack for a month, like you just kind

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Speaker 1: bet not. Bet you make a list when you go

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Speaker 1: to the grocery store too, Yeah, nerd on your phone? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on my phone? Why not nerves? No, not a stone

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Speaker 1: handle groceries on Sunday. Oh that's marriage. That's how you

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Speaker 1: like the fruit punch, capri sons or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You don't do all that. I don't do all that. Sugar,

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Speaker 1: sugar sound I don't do all this. Wow, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do all that. We get some orange. I'm not good

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Speaker 1: some waking and stuff because I'm just like, oh cheez

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Speaker 1: while fruit roll up school. Yeah, I don't do all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, wheat, bread, vegetables. You are a nerd. Going

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Speaker 1: off script here a little bit. Yeah, you talk about

1013
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Speaker 1: We spent about five minutes on this. I started with

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Speaker 1: Tidy Whitey's question for you guys. With the sudden departure

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Speaker 1: of Jason Witten, who becomes Dak's safety blanket during those

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Speaker 1: third downs to keep the chains moving? Hopefully it's called

1017
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Beasley question. Hopefully nobody. Hopefully he goes to the guy

1018
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Speaker 1: that's open and they catch the ball. When I think

1019
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Speaker 1: it's the guy that's always open. You know what I

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00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: mean about Zeke coming out of backfield, I believe a

1022
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Speaker 1: nice outlet. I believe that when I see it, I know.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we were sold on when he got here,

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Speaker 1: was that he was an accomplished receiver as well as

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Speaker 1: a good running back. And we still haven't seen them music.

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00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: You like, he is an accomplished receiver. They just don't utilize.

1027
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: Might be you are all aboard that train, like he

1028
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: talking about tight ends. Nick's gonna throw Blake Jarwin out

1029
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: there because he saw he saw him line up and

1030
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: he looks good, and plus Garrett and Stephen Jones are

1031
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: all in on him, so he's just riding that train.

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Speaker 1: We do have an all bus kind of team, now,

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Speaker 1: don't we. I mean it's like there are several guys

1034
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Speaker 1: you're like, man, they get off the bus. You're like,

1035
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Speaker 1: that's a that's a team that's gonna be hard to

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Speaker 1: deal with. Yeah, if you were just standing out there

1037
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Speaker 1: and San Francisco, you know, a preseason game, and all

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00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden you just look at like bus four

1039
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and then here comes Rico and Scarborough and

1040
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: they're like, those are skill players. Dang, these guys are big.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't and Cole Beasley got more attention. Cole Beasley

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Speaker 1: got more attention last year, and they didn't handle it

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Speaker 1: very well. But hopefully, with the way that they've diversified

1044
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: this offense, you've got I expect Tavon awesome. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this story that I wrote about

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Speaker 1: Tavon Um. I don't know when we're going to publish

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00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: it yet, but I just did a pretty deep dive

1048
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: and done yeah into what it might look like with him.

1049
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Speaker 1: I expect him to be on the field a lot.

1050
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: I think that can help. I think, you know, having

1051
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Speaker 1: different receivers instead of just everybody focusing on des can help.

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00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Obviously you have Zeke, so I'm I'm hoping Cole Beasley

1053
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: can bounce back this year, and if he does, then

1054
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: that's the guy that I would expect dak to look

1055
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: to on third down. I think the interesting thing there is,

1056
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: if he's going to be that kind of security blanket,

1057
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: they're going to have to do more creative things to

1058
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: get him open because what we saw last year's teams

1059
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: purposefully tried to take him out. And I think there

1060
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: are things that the team could do to get him

1061
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: open if they want to. There are ways they can

1062
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: create rubs and give him some kind of support and

1063
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: getting him open when teams are trying to double him,

1064
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: when teams are trying to do different things and knock

1065
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: him off this route. But they're gonna have to do

1066
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: those things if they want him to be there, if

1067
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: they can count on third downs. There's a lot of

1068
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: fun stuff that this team should be able to do.

1069
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: And I don't mean this as a knock on Jason Witten,

1070
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: but if you don't have a tight end out there

1071
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the time who is necessitating your personnel,

1072
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: then you should be able to do a lot. And

1073
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: I would be I would be surprised and disappointed if

1074
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: they just do the same stuff with new tight ends.

1075
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: I think it's I think this is gonna I mean,

1076
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna look similar, but I think this will be

1077
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: as different as it's looked in a while. And I

1078
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: think that you'll you've already seen that they at least

1079
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: prepare to have some different plays there because Tavon Austin,

1080
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: especially making a trade on draft Day. That's not a

1081
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: type of player and that's not a type of movie

1082
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: we've really seen before. To go out and get that

1083
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: type of player to go east west a lot, I

1084
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: think that, you know, yeah, let's see if Lucky can

1085
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: do this, Let's see if Ryan Switzer can do this.

1086
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: But they said, all right, let's get a guy we

1087
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: know can do this and get to it. Yeah, and

1088
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: I think you've seen a little bit more. I agree

1089
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: with you if they if they just do the same stuff.

1090
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: You know it'll be disappointing, I think. I mean, there's

1091
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: so much potential to run empty ten personnel. Obviously, I

1092
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: mean you're never you're all eleven personnel I would guess

1093
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: is still going to be their favorite. But even then,

1094
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: you mean you can change the personnel. I mean, Blake

1095
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: Jarwin and Jeff Swim are younger, more athletic players than

1096
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Jason Witten was at the tail end of his career.

1097
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I spent I spent a couple hours

1098
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: this week watching what the Rams did with Tavon these

1099
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: last two years, and just even if you're not getting

1100
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: him the ball, the stuff he can add to your

1101
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: offense is just very exciting. I'd say, what's going to

1102
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: be interesting is when he comes around and that you know,

1103
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: in motion for the jet sweep and and you got

1104
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: a shotgun with with Zeke back there, because now you've

1105
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: really got a triple triple option because he's got the ball.

1106
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: Here comes Tavon, You fake it to him, maybe you

1107
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: give it to Zeke, maybe you keep it. I mean

1108
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: the linebackers are going to be looking over here, looking here,

1109
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: and then and then if you don't give it to them.

1110
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: You still have Dak that can do some things and

1111
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: pick up, you know, some tough yards running the ball too,

1112
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of options that are running. Yeah,

1113
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I think because of matchup. Because of matchups. I actually

1114
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: hope that I know you were saying that maybe they

1115
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: stick with eleven still being kind of their predominant thing,

1116
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: especially what they use in two minutes. I actually hope

1117
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: they moved Tim because I think it actually gives them

1118
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: a little more flexibility because now the other team has

1119
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: to put that other cornerback on the field if they

1120
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: want to be able to cover all those wide receivers,

1121
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: and by the way, make sure they account for Zeke

1122
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield. I think it creates more

1123
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: mismatches if you go to ten personnel then if you

1124
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: go to eleven personnel, unless you have a difference making

1125
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: tight end, and right now, I don't know that they

1126
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: have a difference making tight end. I've been saying it

1127
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: since they drafted Switzer, I mean and now especially, I mean,

1128
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: you feel really good about all five spots on your

1129
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 1: offensive line. I want the defense to be as small

1130
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: as possible, right, That's what I want, and make him run. Yeah,

1131
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: they can keep up with every one of them, and

1132
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: let Dak find the guy that's open and try to

1133
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: get into him in space and let him make a play,

1134
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: have him to be as small as possible, and then

1135
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: have Zeke and those five offensive linemen run right at him.

1136
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. Yeah, Well, sticking to

1137
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: that tight end real quick. To the tight end subject,

1138
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: who are you guys expecting to really win the starting

1139
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: job at tight end? Yeah? Swam Swim for real? Who

1140
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: are you laughing? As we can? I change that question

1141
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. Who do you think should win that job? Should?

1142
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: Probably Swim should win that job because the reason I

1143
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: asked that because I thought the reason you guys both

1144
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: said that is because knowing this coaching staff they tend

1145
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: to goat was familiar and Swim is the most familiar

1146
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: of the bunch, and if they like how he works

1147
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, that's the guy that

1148
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: they would say, Okay, he's going to be our starter.

1149
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: But do you think that he's the guy that should

1150
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: be the start? He's also the most experienced and well

1151
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: rounded all around player, and no disrespect to Dalton Schultz,

1152
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: per I don't know enough about his game I know

1153
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: he came from a school where he should be prepared

1154
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: for what they're going to ask of him, but is

1155
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: that good enough? I mean, it would be impressive if

1156
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: he won the starting job as a rookie. I won't

1157
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: rule it out, but Swam has been here for three years.

1158
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: He's started something like fifteen or sixteen games, and he's

1159
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: been a part of this for three years. I mean,

1160
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: I would hope he can win it because he should

1161
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: have a better idea of what he's doing than everybody else.

1162
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: I would expect to see a lot of rotation, wouldn't

1163
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 1: you mean? No, Yeah, and no. I don't expect any

1164
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: of the four of these guys, let's says the team

1165
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: to play. I wouldn't expect him to even come close

1166
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: to hitting what Witten did, which was literally ninety eight

1167
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps. I do think Jarwin's going to

1168
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: have a chance because he's probably the biggest of them all,

1169
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: and he has a chance to maybe be the better blocker.

1170
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: So if he can, if he cannot, if he can

1171
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: show that he can catch the ball and be you know,

1172
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: get open and you know occasionally, I think that he

1173
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: has a chance to be your starting tight end just

1174
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: because of what they like to do running the football.

1175
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: So I would imagine he would be a better blocker

1176
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: than Swain. He should be. He's bigger. And you guys

1177
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: believe that that come opening day, Rico's your starter. No,

1178
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I'm not prepared. Well, we started

1179
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: talking about titand I seriously literally and I wrote up

1180
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: on him yesterday. His name didn't come to mind. Do

1181
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: you think that he will have a role. I'm not

1182
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: prepared to put him on the fifty three. Wow. Okay,

1183
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: And again, like you know, and this is this is

1184
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: the most contentious thing between writer and fan. I feel

1185
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: like is is that the thought of Rico gathers and

1186
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: for the tenth time, I'm this isn't me trying to

1187
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: give you my opinion. This is what information that I'm

1188
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: presenting you based on being in the building and having

1189
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: conversations with people who know that, yeah, they need to

1190
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: figure that out. That this is I think Rico is

1191
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: a product of people that just don't agree with the

1192
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: assessment of him. I think there's people in the building

1193
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: that really like him, like his promise and see they

1194
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: catches two touchdowns to the preseason. There's people that think,

1195
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's a basketball players. He's not picking

1196
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: it up quickly. He's lost out there. There's people that

1197
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: don't like his attitude and they think that's a big

1198
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: deal because he comes in and he's got a lot

1199
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: of swag to him. And you know, I don't know

1200
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: that the diagnosis of it, but he got a concussion

1201
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: in a pre in training camp and he missed the

1202
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: whole season and now he's back. So I just think

1203
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: there there's a lot more to it, and I don't

1204
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: know what it is, and it's hard to figure out.

1205
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: So it's hard to say, yeah, he's gonna make the

1206
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: team when I think he's got a lot of things

1207
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: going against them. Yeah. I think the thing about it, though,

1208
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: is I think what fans are seeing more than anything else,

1209
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: as they saw him in the preseason game. And we

1210
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: all know we've seen guys that show up in the

1211
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: preseason look great and then they get lost. When you

1212
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: get to a regular season, you don't hear from him again,

1213
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: and that happens. We know that happens every single year.

1214
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: But he never got a chance to for anybody to

1215
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: see what he could do in the regular season. All

1216
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: you saw was the preseason, and what he showed you

1217
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: in the preseason made you at least go, huh, maybe

1218
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: there's something there. And you look at the history of

1219
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: the tight end position over the last ten years, and

1220
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: where you find a lot of really great tight ends

1221
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: has been guys that are former basketball players that have

1222
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: that kind of athleticism and that ability to go up

1223
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: and get the ball. So all those things combined is

1224
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: why I think people are kind of like, man, there's

1225
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: gotta be something. Maybe there's something there. Why are we

1226
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: not Why are the Cowboys not pursuing more as far

1227
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: as what he could possibly become. If I was making decisions,

1228
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: I would throw him out there and be like, even

1229
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: if all you are as a red zone threat, we'll

1230
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: put you out there. Maybe we'll even take you off

1231
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: the line. Alledg you don't do anything but catch the

1232
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: ball high up in the air, and that's good enough.

1233
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: But does that sound like this coaching staff? Literally? I

1234
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: mean it does not. Jay. I mean how many you know,

1235
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: over the last two weeks since Jason went and retired,

1236
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: how many times have we heard about like the standard

1237
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: that he's set and he's just as reliable blocking as

1238
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: he is catching and knowing his assignments and knowing the

1239
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: ins and outs of the position and think about how

1240
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: this team wants to run the ball, and I mean

1241
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: you think about it. You know, at a deep enough level,

1242
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: if you put a guy out there who's got no

1243
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: idea how to do anything but high point the ball,

1244
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: you're kind of telegraphing what you want to do, and

1245
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: so in red zone networks, but it doesn't work when

1246
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: you're in the rest which field. And again this isn't

1247
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: my opinion. I'm just saying it doesn't sound like this

1248
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff to trust a guy who's that one dimensional.

1249
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: And so I think I think he's got he's got

1250
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: a long road to walk between now and when they

1251
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: cut this roster down before I'm comfortable saying I think

1252
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the team. And that's Fans are well

1253
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: within their right to be frustrated by that, because he

1254
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: certainly is an intriguing athlete. But that's what's working against him,

1255
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: and that's what he's going to have to battle against.

1256
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: He's going into his third year. Yeah, all right, Well,

1257
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys joining us. That's a rap for today.

1258
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back next Wednesday, will have more talk for

1259
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: you guys till then, Nick Eatn Thursday, Sorry Nick Thursay, Yes,

1260
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we'll be Nick Thursday, will not be Winsay,

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Speaker 1: will be Thursday. Check the website. We'll have the full

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Speaker 1: schedule up there for all of the shows nixt week

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Speaker 1: till then for Nick Eatn, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I'm

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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