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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so

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Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com ware with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and

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Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is twos in November

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Speaker 1: twenty third, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. We're live

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Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot we're gonna get into today. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the Vegas offense versus the Dallas defense. Will

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Speaker 1: be joined by Bucky Brooks here in just one second.

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Speaker 1: And then in addition to that, we're gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about some of the guys who were out

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Speaker 1: in this last game, what it meant for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: what they lost by not having them here, and who

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Speaker 1: is most important to get back as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about all that in the second segment. I

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Speaker 1: think we have Bucky Brooks on the line. Bucky are

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Speaker 1: you there, all right, We'll give it a second. He's

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Speaker 1: not quite there, Nick, real quick, give me a sixty

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Speaker 1: seven Russell Maryland. It's good. One Russell number one, number

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Speaker 1: How can you sort of be the number one overall pick?

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Speaker 1: Because in nineteen ninety one, that's the way they did it.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't like the best player. He didn't even make

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Speaker 1: him because he wasn't gonna hold out like the others,

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Speaker 1: so they got him. He was the number one pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: didn't play like I thought to say. Did he really

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Speaker 1: play up to that? Now? He was a pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He's a pro bowler. He made a Pro Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: can't thank another one, honestly. I mean no, I know

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton war sixty seven before he went to sixty one.

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Speaker 1: What we got here? I can't think of anything. I

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Speaker 1: Everett mc iver maybe I don't know. I don't Scissor

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Speaker 1: Gate whoa? I mean, he was a he was an

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Speaker 1: NFL player, Derek, he didn't know was that Scissor Gate? Like,

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Speaker 1: wasn't he the guy that. Okay, yeah he wasn't scissors Gate, wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He just wanted a haircut. Michael Irvin the one that.

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Speaker 1: But he was a part of it. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: on the receiving Yeah he was, Yeah he was. He

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Speaker 1: got a haircut. Oh my god, dere Derek is going

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Speaker 1: after that? Was? I mean? I had a story, right,

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Speaker 1: I covered the press conference and Chan Gailey called it horseplay,

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Speaker 1: just horseplay in the dorms? Is that what he called it.

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Speaker 1: I stayed in those very dorms and nobody getting sliced

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Speaker 1: school there at those dorms. Yea, yeah, I only stayed

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Speaker 1: there for summer camp. Phil Costa, remember him, Phil? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: credit to Nate. There's half a dozen other guys like

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Speaker 1: just don't. It's just nobody's happy about that. Yeah, it's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: David Baktier up in Green Bay, like there are some exceptions,

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Speaker 1: right now from NFL Network. Bucky, Let's talk some Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders offense versus the Dallas defense. Uh, and we're

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Speaker 1: you know, you're not vaccinated, that would be more I mean,

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Speaker 1: he tested a positive, that's that doesn't I mean, I'm

427
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Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't matter, but I mean that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter where youre vaccinated or not at that point.

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Speaker 1: That's the part that if you aren't. Yes, that's the

430
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Speaker 1: part that can become very punitive for any player that's unvaccinated,

431
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Speaker 1: is not vaccinated. Close contact that means what five days

432
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Speaker 1: and you got to get a certain number of negative

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Speaker 1: tests over a certain period of time like Ift Adams

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Speaker 1: maybe wasn't I think that happened to him. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I know it's happened to a couple of guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who they were, but it's happened around

437
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Speaker 1: the league. That's where I get you can get you

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Speaker 1: the player probably has got to be was that Wins

439
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Speaker 1: that went through that? I think Wins had a close contact.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, I think that's the part where where

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Speaker 1: you you want to like as we get into this playoffs,

442
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Speaker 1: when they get to the NFL playoffs, it's gonna get

443
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Speaker 1: real serious because you're, right, some backup third string guy

444
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Speaker 1: that now takes out your starter because your starter was

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Speaker 1: unvaccinated and had close contact. Now you you're in a

446
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Speaker 1: whole different level of of of jeopardy. Yeah, and think

447
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Speaker 1: about it, like this, like Amari and I guess there's

448
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Speaker 1: different science, you know, studies on all this, but probably

449
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Speaker 1: wouldn't won't get it again, probably not, But okay, he

450
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Speaker 1: still think he's immune or at least period now. But

451
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Speaker 1: what what stops another wide receiver that happened and then

452
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Speaker 1: he's close contact and he's still not vaccinated. So then

453
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Speaker 1: now he goes through it all again, even though he's

454
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Speaker 1: probably not gonna gonna get the virus. The league has

455
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Speaker 1: made it a competitive disadvantage to not be vaccinated. Again,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't I don't care about your opinion about it

457
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Speaker 1: when we or the other it's just it's just the

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Speaker 1: back yeah, yeah, and that will be something that that

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Speaker 1: every team in the NFL that has unvaccinated players will

460
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Speaker 1: have to deal with. Me will say this, this is

461
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Speaker 1: an interesting lesson, I guess in just like keeping perspective

462
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Speaker 1: and like I guess, trying to listen or understand where

463
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Speaker 1: people are coming from, because, like I said way back

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Speaker 1: at training camp, like, I can't believe that this has

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Speaker 1: become a politicized issue. I think it's like with the

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Speaker 1: only country where it is. But go ahead, well, I

467
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Speaker 1: don't let me talk to some people in Europe about that,

468
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Speaker 1: I think, uh whatever, let's not go down all of

469
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Speaker 1: these roads. My point being is, like I am a person.

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Speaker 1: I believe that the reasons to not get vaccinated are microscopic.

471
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Speaker 1: Like they just aren't very many valid reasons to not

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Speaker 1: do it. They're out there, don't get me wrong, They're

473
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Speaker 1: out there, but there aren't that many. And so but

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Speaker 1: it's it's easy to just like cast dispersions and just

475
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Speaker 1: write somebody off as a dumb ass and all this

476
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Speaker 1: type of stuff. Amari Cooper is not a dumb ass.

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Speaker 1: I have a very high opinion of Amari Cooper as

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Speaker 1: a person. I think he's one of the smartest guys

479
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Speaker 1: on this team. So like, when you throw that perspective

480
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Speaker 1: in there, it makes you stop, like, I'm not gonna

481
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Speaker 1: degrade the guy, because again, I respect him tremendously, and

482
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Speaker 1: we'll throw this in there as well. I like him

483
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Speaker 1: as a person too, So it makes you stop and think, like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear where he's coming from, and maybe

485
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Speaker 1: he can shed some sort of insight on this or

486
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Speaker 1: offer a perspective that I hadn't considered, and maybe that

487
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Speaker 1: changes the way you think about it, and so I

488
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Speaker 1: don't think it changes the way that I think about

489
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Speaker 1: this in any grand scheme, but I do it is

490
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Speaker 1: nice and important to maybe stop and think and listen

491
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Speaker 1: before you just vilify anybody and everybody that doesn't agree

492
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Speaker 1: with you. Which even as I say that, I don't

493
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Speaker 1: like it, because again, I think getting vaccinated is overwhelmingly

494
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Speaker 1: a smart and good thing to do. But you know

495
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Speaker 1: what's crazy when I think about it, looking at last

496
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Speaker 1: year when the vaccine wasn't a thing just yet, it

497
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Speaker 1: had not come out, and we went through a whole

498
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Speaker 1: football season, we hardly had anybody tested test positive, like

499
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Speaker 1: within the players here with the Cowboys. I know it

500
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Speaker 1: was around the league and all that, but then you

501
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Speaker 1: look at this year of people being vaccinated, and then

502
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Speaker 1: there are differences. But it's just it surprises me to

503
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Speaker 1: see how many guys have tested positive this year? This year,

504
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Speaker 1: two players or three, No, it's been the Cowboys. You

505
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Speaker 1: how many Amari's got to be six or seven at

506
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Speaker 1: this point. Zach Kean O'Neill had it, Zach Martin had it,

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Speaker 1: Randy had it? Did I already say CD? CD had it?

508
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Speaker 1: CD got it before the season even started. Oh yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about games like during the season. No,

510
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Speaker 1: why just means since we've been at training, Yeah, just

511
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Speaker 1: in general compared to last year. And did we have

512
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Speaker 1: some lashna? We had some lash I don't remember, but

513
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Speaker 1: it wasn't it really It did not affect the Cowboys

514
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Speaker 1: where it wasn't like a big deal. Some of that

515
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Speaker 1: might also beat it last year if you remember, the

516
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Speaker 1: protocols were very different. Guys, we're not meeting in person

517
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Speaker 1: as often. They had mask on every time last year,

518
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Speaker 1: while gone back to that protocol where they have to

519
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Speaker 1: wear their mask inside the building. But yeah, that that

520
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Speaker 1: was a very different situation from the standpoint of how

521
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Speaker 1: they were managing uh COVID, you know, crossing the vaccine.

522
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Speaker 1: I would stick to what they were doing last year

523
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Speaker 1: where your I mean, have your meetings and everything, but

524
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Speaker 1: where are your mask and not risk it? Don't risk it.

525
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Speaker 1: Sounds like they will be from here on out, like

526
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Speaker 1: the league is the league changes the protocols like tomorrow,

527
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Speaker 1: I think where like it gets more intense for everybody.

528
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Speaker 1: I assume that's because we're moving into like cold and

529
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Speaker 1: flu seas and maybe I personally thought it was because

530
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Speaker 1: we're getting close to the playoffs. And they're like, we're

531
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Speaker 1: gonna do everything we can to get this through this

532
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Speaker 1: season and get into the playoffs and have a few

533
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Speaker 1: people that come up positive as possible. So that's happening regardless,

534
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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys jump started it. They're into that protocol now.

535
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Speaker 1: So Finny Luck battle decrease well yesterday and McCarthy wearing

536
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Speaker 1: his mask, and I was like, huh, yeah, that's unusual. Yeah,

537
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Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. I get what you're saying, Dave, And

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Speaker 1: I was actually an interesting perspective. I have one of

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Speaker 1: He opted not to do it. I also have a

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543
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544
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546
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547
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548
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Speaker 1: I kind of heard two different perspectives, and I got

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Speaker 1: to your point, Dave, I'm not gonna kill my good

550
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551
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552
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Speaker 1: completely bought in yet. That's his opinion, and he can

553
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Speaker 1: I just think everybody has to make the decision that's

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556
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Speaker 1: there is a cost to that. And the cost is

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635
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Speaker 1: like I can't. Just so the von Erics are out, okay, cool? Um,

636
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: sorry Kevin? Maybe Kevin, I would freak out if Dwayne

637
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Johnson or Steve Austin walked through this building like that.

638
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean as a as an eight to twelve year

639
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: old kid. Those guys were Yeah, that was. I think

640
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: it's already happened for me, honestly because when my one

641
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: of my favorites I mean obviously macho man, but also

642
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Stings and he was here. If I why did I

643
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: not get a photo of the Tian Serious? This is

644
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: a better Sports Center commercial than you could have ever

645
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: had Brian brought us is sitting there watching tap with

646
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: his feet up. See look Winer and Sting and Lastume

647
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: with the makeup on, and the bat is just leaning

648
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: up there pointing stuff out, And I mean like that

649
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: was that was so cool sting, but uh yeah, I

650
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: mean what he said, rock the Rock famous for everybody's

651
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: already been. I mean it proved me wrong. You're like,

652
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: you're like, let's see, can you do it? Yeah? If

653
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: I would, I would be tempted to like cut a

654
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: promo with him or something. I was just you'd walk

655
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: up and be like, I gotta get a picture. I'm

656
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: the Rock. I'm not. I don't. I'm not. I don't

657
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: like to take photos with I'm not that guy. But

658
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the Rock probably meets that qualify that you have to. Yeah,

659
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: I gotta take a photo. Yeah, who's the most famous

660
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: person you ever interviewed? Roger Staubach, Dak Prescott. I don't know.

661
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: It's a football player, that's the fun like football, Jerry

662
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Shack, Sure, yeah, I forgot about Jerry Rice probably

663
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: Amber me Um probably a football I mean outside of here,

664
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't I can think of anybody of the four

665
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: star general that I interviewed. I was gonna say, well,

666
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: maybe not popular, but in the grand scheme of importance,

667
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: I would say that's up there. It was up there.

668
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: It's just funny how we were on the field the

669
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: other day and I'm interviewing him, and you know it's

670
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: a big deal. And then Rob just to interview the Undertaker,

671
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, and like he was probably more nervous for

672
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: that than I was. You know, Rob. Rob is our

673
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: wrestling guy, though, I mean Rob will tell you all

674
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: the all the stuff you need to do. Let's say

675
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: it's too bad for Dave because every time somebody we

676
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: have to interview something or it's like a Rob, I

677
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: don't care it's passed over. It means it means more

678
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: to Rob than it does. We bring in Rock. We

679
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: just heard everybody he might he might have a little

680
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: bit of a problem. Sorry, Rob, you didn't get that interview?

681
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Dave, I mean yeah, you want to be

682
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: included on that at that point. Days, Like, let's just

683
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: have two big interview everybody. I mean that Rock is

684
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: different because in so many ways, I mean wrestling, okay, yeah,

685
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: obviously that's I don't see the business. I mean, people

686
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: are inspired by him in a lot of different with tats,

687
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, all of that's true. And he's he's

688
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: made some great movies. I don't care about any of that.

689
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: I want to hear about like the People's Elbow, the

690
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: rock and Sock connection, like come on which great great, No,

691
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: he's been in a lot of He's been a lot

692
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: of great great. On Gang is my favorite one he

693
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: ever did. The Fast and the Furious movies are great

694
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: for what they are. There's one called the Tooth Fairy.

695
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that one. The Fast and the

696
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: Furious franchise is great for an action franchise, Like, it's

697
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: not supposed to be an Oscar winner. We're not even

698
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: in the ditch anymore. We're like, no, we went beyond

699
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: the ditch and we just ran anyway. And the conversation,

700
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: if the Rock can come over here, Yeah, that's the

701
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: second option, and just bring him the way. Yeah, all right,

702
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: we got you, so we can. He's actually I think

703
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: he's related to the Rock. Actually it's called make up

704
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: really as hair, all greasy and yeah, but that's what

705
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: that's into. Right, Can we do? Can we do? Like

706
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: two minutes of football? Give me some injury updates? We

707
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: got we got guys on this injury report. I want

708
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 1: to find out if they're playing. Talk to me about

709
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith. Where's he he's playing? Okay, yeah, we said

710
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: that last week. We've been more he's saying I said

711
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: this on the fan this morning. We've been wrong more

712
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: this year than we ever have. And you know what

713
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: it is? Yeah, well, what what has changed? What has changed?

714
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: The head coach has changed? Oh, I can't. Everything else

715
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: is basically the same. We know the GM's the same,

716
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: We know most of the it's not like that stuff

717
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: comes through the team. The medical staff is all the same.

718
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: The head coach, I don't know what he's doing, because

719
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: like Jerry is still doing Jerry like he'll still get

720
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: on the radio and give out some tidbits. But like

721
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: a well, Steven at point, like you've got all these

722
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: different messages and they aren't always the same, and so

723
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: you're so confused by the end of the week on

724
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: what really you want to believe mccar officials. McCarthy's running

725
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: some like missdirect or. So I don't know, but it's

726
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: impressive because we've been wrong a lot. I thought Tyron

727
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: was going to play on Sunday, I really did. Didn't

728
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Steven say last week the same thing he said this

729
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: week that he felt good about it, or was that

730
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Jerry the city felt good about him playing. I thought

731
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: one of them said it felt good about him playing,

732
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: because it was Steven and then he said it again.

733
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: He said it again earlier this week he feels good. Yeah,

734
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of a difference. Yeah, I

735
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: think he's a difference though this week than last week.

736
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: Was that the Chiefs game happened again. You know, that's

737
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: another game of you know, not playing, not playing well

738
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: at all, and and and you don't have to worry

739
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: about him getting ready on a short week. I mean

740
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: that is that's a big ask a guy who's fighting

741
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: through an injury, who has missed two games playing a

742
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: very physical team, for all of them are physical, playing

743
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: an NFL game and then having to be ready seventy

744
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: two hours later. So now you can get him on

745
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: a seven day sketch. And if he can get through

746
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: these two games again, he gets that break after the

747
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: Saints game, I think he's gonna play well. A CD.

748
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: What's going on him? Concussion? I get uncomfortable trying to

749
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: speculate about concussions because you don't fight through those, like

750
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: you clear the protocol or you don't. It's not like, well,

751
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: you're still kind of busy. But we think he can play, Yeah,

752
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: like that's the eighties, Yeah, right, I know, I know

753
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: there's not a set time. But usual, oh usually, Well,

754
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've seen a year. There's a lot. Yeah,

755
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like it depends on it depends on the

756
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of concussion you got. I mean how bad the

757
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: concussion is. But I mean I just have to think

758
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he's in meetings and they say it

759
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: as possibility's going to be running around on the field today. Yeah,

760
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: you don't do that. If there's still like he doesn't,

761
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't concussion issues. Seems like it's on the lighter

762
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: side of the yea. And he told Dak on the field,

763
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm fine, Like you can read his lips. Yeah, you

764
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: could see when they were walking up he said, he's good.

765
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: I saw him telling Dak he's good. It's fine. Yeah.

766
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I talked to some of the trainers and they basically said,

767
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: there's there's a couple of things he's got to pass

768
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: right there on the field. Um, and he didn't do that,

769
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, so immediately immediately, so that's take your helmet,

770
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: you're out. But just the way that he was doing

771
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: just going to the plane, they were like, you know,

772
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: we feel good about it. I mean, we feel good

773
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: about where he is, and um, he's just got you

774
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: just gotta pass a lot of things. You got to

775
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: do all these protocols, you gotta pass these benchmarks. You

776
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: gotta get on the field doing stuff. But the fact

777
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: that it's Tuesday and it's looking pretty good. I mean,

778
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: but it's funny, though I agree with you one hundred percent.

779
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: But that's what I've all year. I've been like, there's

780
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: a lot of optimism coming from inside the building and

781
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: then I'm wrong on game day. Um, but it's funny.

782
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Like if you ask a fan, they'll say, like three things.

783
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I heard he was in meetings. I

784
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: heard he was doing pretty good. He maybe could have played,

785
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: and they need him, see like, like that never factors

786
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: in to the to the Cowboys see well, even though

787
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: they do that well that and that's the difference though,

788
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: is like they need Tyran And honestly, at this point

789
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: a month removed from the injury, that probably factors in.

790
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: It's like we need you. If you can get through

791
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: a buddy. You can't do that with a conduction, right,

792
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: you just don't do that. And so I think, like

793
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I said, it's hard to predict. I don't feel comfortable

794
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: trying to predict that. But I'm optimistic based on what

795
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that maybe he can go. He's out, which

796
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: that was weird I get. I think maybe something that

797
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: cropped up when they took a closer look at him,

798
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: because McCarthy came in on Sunday night and Rich Dalrymple,

799
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: the head of PR, always gives an injury update at

800
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: the start of the press conference. He's like, Donovan Wilson

801
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: returned to play, He's fine, and then yesterday Mike was like,

802
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Donovan won't be available Thursday. So I'm not. I think

803
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: maybe they saw something new when they took a closer

804
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: look at him on Monday morning during injury call. Fortunately,

805
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: they actually have safety depth, which is a weirds earlier

806
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: this year when he was out four four I think

807
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: maybe either New England or New York was maybe his

808
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: first game back after miss He played the Tampa game

809
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: and then missed like three or four. This isn't really

810
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: a jab at him. I'm just asking has he made

811
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: a play this year? He made a nice play on Sunday, Yeah, like, um,

812
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes got pressured and threw it towards the sideline on

813
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: an outbreaker, And I mean, was it at him? That

814
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: dove yeah, he was diving. He didn't like get his

815
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: hands on the ball. He cover And I say this

816
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: about safeties because it he goes both ways. I mean,

817
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him make bad play for the other

818
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's not like chasing someone for a touchdown.

819
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a solid player. He's that who

820
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: count on you. He isn't that kind of describes everybody,

821
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: but Curse, like Curse has this long list of nice plays.

822
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: Casey had a pick in week two, but other than that,

823
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: I can't just been and Hooker has been in and out,

824
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: which they did play more too high with Malie Cooker

825
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: last week. I felt smart about that, even as as

826
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: the rest of my predictions burned down around me. I

827
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but they're they're playing too high. You

828
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: would have taken that all day nineteen nineteen points chief,

829
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: she'd been like, wow, oh yeah, that's what we would

830
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: have thought. It would have been a blowout, but maybe

831
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: not a blowout but a comfortable thirty one nineteen Yeah,

832
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: like it's eight to ten point win. Yeah, all right,

833
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: real quick, DeMarcus Lawrence, he's I think he's going to

834
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: get on the field this week. Nice practice. He is

835
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: not playing against the Raiders. I know that for a

836
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: certainty he's not playing Thursday. There are chance for SNS.

837
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. I'm not ready to say

838
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: a good chance. That's just that's a long layoff, even

839
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: for a guy of his caliber. I just wanted out

840
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: there in a couple of plays, Like, even if he

841
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: doesn't play the whole game, put him out on a

842
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: couple of pass rushes, I'll see what happened. I think

843
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: there's a chance he plays in New Orleans. No, and

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't play in New Orleans, I would put

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Speaker 1: twenty bucks on him being ready for the trip to

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Speaker 1: Washington after that, a whole twenty Hey, you know what

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Speaker 1: I make that's no. But I'm saying, like that's a

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Speaker 1: month from now. That was kind of a big bucks.

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Speaker 1: That's one time, one one way, go ahead, a lot

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Speaker 1: of story go ahead. Well no, but but the thing

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Speaker 1: is no. Um, but it's like, Okay, that's so not

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Speaker 1: this game. And then in a week and then he

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Speaker 1: got ten more days. I mean, what day is that.

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Speaker 1: That's December the twelfth, right, Yeah, for the Giants for

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Speaker 1: the next game. That's why I'm saying, if they start

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Speaker 1: his window today, or tomorrow, and he practices next week

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Speaker 1: but doesn't play, and then you've got the mini buy

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Speaker 1: by the time he by the time they're practicing for Washington,

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Speaker 1: it's almost three weeks since they've activated him. That's why

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he doesn't play against New Orleans, I

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Speaker 1: would feel very very confident. He plays against Washington, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna win twenty bucks. Years This was when Danny McCrae

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Speaker 1: was still on the team. We were getting off we

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Speaker 1: were coming back from a preseason game. We were getting

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Speaker 1: off the bus in Oxnard. McCrae and Scandrick are arguing

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Speaker 1: about LSU football. These guys argue about everything and bet

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Speaker 1: on everything. That's just what football players do. And they're

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Speaker 1: arguing about like how good LSU is gonna be, and

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Speaker 1: mccray's like, I don't, like, we'll be better than that,

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Speaker 1: We'll be better than that. Scandrick is being scannery. He's like,

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Speaker 1: y'all suck, y'all are gonna lose this mini games, blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. And McCray saw me and was like, dave

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Speaker 1: you hear this, like blah blah blah, And I'm like

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Speaker 1: that's dumb, dude, Like I'm not saying we're gonna win

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Speaker 1: the national title, but we'll definitely we'll win more games

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Speaker 1: than what you're saying we're gonna win scandricks. Like bet

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Speaker 1: on it then, and I'm like, how much we talking?

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Speaker 1: He's like five hundred and like the hell do you think?

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Speaker 1: I am a man? That's a month, bro. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking like I was thinking, like maybe twenty forty fifty.

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Speaker 1: They're like, that's no, Why would I Why would I

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Speaker 1: bother with that? I was like, yeah, we're just like

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Speaker 1: we're in two different worlds, dude. For you, He's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a I don't have any bills that small.

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Speaker 1: I need to be able to get groceries next month.

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Speaker 1: I ain't betting nothing until all right, guys, that's a rap.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys offense versus a Vegas defense. Get you

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Speaker 1: guys ready for Cowboys versus Ragers. Still then for Nick Keatman,

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Speaker 1: Dave hellmant amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This has

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