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Speaker 1: Bailey Zimmerman's about to put out a full record, but

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Speaker 1: Bailey stopped by just a few months after signing his

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Speaker 1: record deal. This was the first interview he ever did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and I was just like, I

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Speaker 1: he left. I was like, that was a refreshing interview

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Speaker 1: because he had never done anything. He was just in talking.

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Speaker 1: He signed with Warner back in twenty twenty two. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it was about TikTok at first, but the

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Speaker 1: real TikTok story here isn't a I gained a fan

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Speaker 1: base and then quit. He was like, dang, I got

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Speaker 1: one video that exploded. I'm quitting my job and we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna give it a run. I'm out of here.

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Speaker 1: I can appreciate just that, just that intensity of going

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Speaker 1: I'm putting it all right here. So Bailey Zimmerman, I mean,

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Speaker 1: since then, he's had two number ones, fall in Love

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Speaker 1: and Rock in a Hard Place.

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Speaker 2: All this and between A Rock and Get.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be on the radio show coming up, and

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Speaker 1: we've gotten to know each other a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: I just love this interview. The new album comes out

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Speaker 1: May twelfth, called real justus lay the album. So here

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Speaker 1: he does look back at the first time we met.

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Speaker 1: Get to know a guy that is blowing up here

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Speaker 1: is from back in the day, Bailey Zimmerman, when you

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Speaker 1: were driving in Bailey. The one of the guys that

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Speaker 1: worked here was like, I think he's got like a

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Speaker 1: monster truck. I was gonna bring it, and then it

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Speaker 1: a nice white suv, but I don't see how big

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Speaker 1: is the truck? This this mysterious truck. Uh. The mirror

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Speaker 3: The mirror is probably two or three foot above my head,

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Speaker 2: Probably I mean, it's really tight, So is it?

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Speaker 1: I feel like when he one of those helicopter rope

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been really working on getting steps for it

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Speaker 2: I don't drive it very much because it's oh.

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Speaker 1: You don't now, but you have you climb up, you jump,

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Speaker 1: you use the okay to talk to me because I

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Speaker 1: don't know much about cars. But isn't an old truck?

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Speaker 1: Is it a new truck?

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Speaker 1: New one, yep, and you got it jack that high?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've always wanted to do it, and.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, if you want to do it,

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Speaker 2: You want to drive it.

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Speaker 3: But then when you get home and there's like a

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Speaker 3: I'm not driving this anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's just you have a picture of it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Are those pink wheels?

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Speaker 1: How long did it take to finish? And did you

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Speaker 1: Because I get a patient if I buy a pair

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Speaker 3: But you go through and you get calls like you'll

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Speaker 1: And now people know it's that truck is so known.

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Speaker 2: We did have people follow us to Red Lobster the

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Speaker 1: big shots, not you, but maybe oh look at him

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Speaker 1: driving that. Let's go, let's go hassle on a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Cool manly nobody how much costs to fill up?

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Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred bucks, but it only gets me like

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's good to see you, good to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. I was when I leave the radio station

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Speaker 1: lot that's new? You're killing it, man, really cool? Like uh?

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Speaker 1: And And to be honest with you, I did to

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Speaker 1: my name will get spell bobb. I have a unisex name.

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Speaker 1: They'll think I'm a girl. And I was like Bailey.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever get that?

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Speaker 3: Oh my whole life. I used to hate it so much.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Mom, why did you name me Bailey?

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Speaker 2: So I'm at peace with it now.

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Speaker 3: But oh yeah, I'm a whole lives like daily Lynn too.

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Speaker 3: There's this girl in my hometowns Walmart, and she was

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Speaker 3: So one night we were hanging and he said, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: So that was my first single, Never Coming Home.

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Speaker 3: That night we wrote the first verse and mind just

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Speaker 3: like a week indo hanging with Gavin and we wrote

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Speaker 3: We were laid off at the time and got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you mean? You're just like just

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Speaker 3: So when I got some money, I built my big truck,

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, I couldn't like afford my truck payment.

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Speaker 3: So I thought, man, but I do want people to

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Speaker 3: I know that, Yeah, I'm not always just this sad,

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Speaker 2: You know, I do have fun.

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Speaker 3: And so I thought, man, I'll build this huge truck

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I'm kind of an awe of the story.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard all the stories. I've never heard one

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Speaker 1: quite like this. This is really cool. And you're you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. So you live with your mom at

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Speaker 1: it's not that you didn't want to, you just didn't

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Speaker 3: I was living in an eight hundred person town. You know,

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Speaker 3: nobody ever makes it out of there. So I thought,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in competition with a billion people that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three towns that I don't even know where they are,

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Speaker 1: So if very like the bottom little tip thing there, yep.

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Speaker 3: So if you go up to Champagne or Peoria, we're like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Because minor league teams in Pori. Okay, so you go.

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Speaker 1: You guys, graduate high school?

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Speaker 2: Yep, graduated high school.

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Speaker 1: You finish high school? What kind of student were you?

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Speaker 2: Terrible? Hated school, a failed, math failed, there's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of Yeah, if you're talking about I'm not gonna be like, okay, Belle,

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Speaker 1: Yeah that sucks.

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Speaker 1: So okay, you graduated high school. And does your truck

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Speaker 1: fascination just generally come from your dad?

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Speaker 3: You think it comes from a dude in my town

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Speaker 1: You dad, The truck driver was the truck driver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he hauled cars and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, working on motors. So it all started really with

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Speaker 2: Whatever they could build, if they could like work on.

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Speaker 1: Aren't they in your yard something was being worked on

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Speaker 1: That's the early fascination to me, even if you don't

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Speaker 1: know you're fascinating it. You're learning sometimes just because you're

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Speaker 1: and you're like, I know how to do this, but

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Speaker 2: I wanted to so bad, I really did.

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Speaker 3: I love, you know, racing outdoors, and I always did

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Speaker 3: love it. But kind of the same thing that's even

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Speaker 1: I hear you saying that, Honest to god, I do

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Speaker 1: I know, I respect that, but what you're doing right

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Speaker 1: you're kneeling it. You can be a astronaut, Just go do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I tell people that from the last two years,

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Speaker 2: You can do anything. I just wasn't very fast on

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Speaker 1: Is this still weird to you? What's happening to you

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Speaker 2: Every day?

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Speaker 3: Every I wake up and I called my mom and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, Bobby Bones just asked me to come

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Speaker 1: I'm blown away that you're so normal. I'll be honest

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Speaker 1: You're just a dude. It's awesome, it's so refreshing. You're

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Speaker 1: and how crazy it is, and you're still going full

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you gotta think, man, Like a year

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Speaker 3: I know how it feels to have nothing and feel

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Speaker 3: First what she's always just like, no freaking way, that's crazy,

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Speaker 3: talking to her about things. She has no clue what's

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Speaker 3: going on, as you know, just as much as I do.

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Speaker 2: And I'll just.

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Speaker 3: Be like, yo, I think I'm like flying on a

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Speaker 3: Like how crazy is that? Man?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I just can't just like I just sit back and

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Speaker 1: Have you done a lot of interviews?

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Speaker 3: No, you're one of the very first I've not. I

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Speaker 1: Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: I've never done anything like this.

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Speaker 1: Don't change, and it's gonna be hard for you not

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Speaker 1: to change because you get so jaded. And also you'll

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Speaker 1: get your label people and they'll do a good job.

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Speaker 1: For the most part. You're in a good place. You're

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Speaker 1: a good place. You're worn, right, Yeah, you're worn. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a good It's a good group. And so you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just talking to you.

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Speaker 1: They never changed. Yeah, So you're freaking out, your mom's

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Speaker 1: freaking out everything. But I want to go back to you.

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Speaker 1: Load the video up, you singing, you wake up, You

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Speaker 1: got a couple million views. You decide you're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: the union you're not coming back. So but then what

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Speaker 1: do you do next? Do you go? All right? So

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Speaker 1: I'm singing on TikTok?

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Speaker 3: So literally what I did next was so I called

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00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 3: at the union quit and they're like, wait, you just

439
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,200
Speaker 3: like you just want to like get off the list.

440
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, cut my card up, I'm done. And

441
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,359
Speaker 3: they were like, what are you gonna do? And I'm like,

442
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to be a country singer because I

443
00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,320
Speaker 3: might as well try, you know. And so I called

444
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,000
Speaker 3: Gavin because I called him at two am, and I said, hey,

445
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,240
Speaker 3: do you care if I post this video? And he

446
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,479
Speaker 3: said no, man, hell if it gets some views, why

447
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,439
Speaker 3: don't we try to cut it or however you do that.

448
00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,159
Speaker 3: I don't even know how that works, you know. So

449
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,719
Speaker 3: I called him, and I said, dude, have you seen TikTok?

450
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 3: And he's like no, and I'm like, yeah, dude, go

451
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,160
Speaker 3: look at TikTok And he looked and he's like, dude,

452
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,639
Speaker 3: so what do we do now? And I'm like, well,

453
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,680
Speaker 3: we got to figure out how to record it. We

454
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,480
Speaker 3: got to figure out how that works, like I don't

455
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,280
Speaker 3: know how it works. And he said and he said, uh,

456
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 3: all right, man, I'll I'll take off work today. You

457
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 3: take off too. And I said, nah, did I already quit?

458
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 3: And he's like, you quit your job? And I'm like, dude, no,

459
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,639
Speaker 3: I'm for real, Gavin, like, I'm coming over to your

460
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 3: apartment in the next year. You're gonna quit your job.

461
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I already quit my job. So you're gonna

462
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,480
Speaker 3: quit your job. You're gonna be a writer. I'm gonna

463
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 3: be an artist. We're gonna do this. So we got

464
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 3: over there and we searched up recording studios because I

465
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 3: always thought you had to have a per personal studio

466
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,240
Speaker 3: to start off music well.

467
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like on TV anyway, is

468
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 1: that they have to go into a building in a

469
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,159
Speaker 1: room where all the big board is the microphone I

470
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 1: thought the same thing. But then you quickly learn what that.

471
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 3: It's just a lot of home studios, And I thought,

472
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 3: you legit. I had to go buy speakers, I had

473
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,679
Speaker 3: to go buy all this gear. I had to like

474
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 3: produce my own stuff. So when I learned that you

475
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 3: didn't have to do that, I was like, Okay, this

476
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 3: is way easier. This is a lot easier than I

477
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,160
Speaker 3: think it is. So we went to Nashville. Cut the song.

478
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: What's the drive to Nashville?

479
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 2: Four hours?

480
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so not that bad.

481
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 2: We were doing it like two or three times a week.

482
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Speaker 1: Men, gav when you cut a salt, you drove to Nashville,

483
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: Did you find somebody here with a home studio or

484
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 1: did yes?

485
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 3: Sean Rodgers had a home studio, and I randomly, it's

486
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: the weirdest thing.

487
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 2: I randomly got hooked up with him from a dude

488
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 2: that I hadn't.

489
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 3: This dude in my hometown of eight hundred people randomly

490
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 3: knew that I was looking for a producer. And I

491
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 3: had not told anybody about this. I had not talked

492
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 3: to anybody.

493
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: But my mom.

494
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 1: Wait, how would he know? Then?

495
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: No clue, Still to this day, have no clue.

496
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 3: How any of it got he just randomly called me

497
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: and said, hey, man, my name's Richie and for some reason,

498
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 3: I've I just got your number from somebody.

499
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 2: Do you need a producer? And I was like, why

500
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 2: do you know that? I've literally not told anybody.

501
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 3: He was like, I don't know, but I feel I

502
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 3: just I just got your number and I like, I

503
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: just knew to call you, and I was like, yeah,

504
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: I need a producer, and he was like, well, Sean

505
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 3: Rodgers does an artist from back home named Dolan Wolf.

506
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 3: He produces him and would you want to would you

507
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 3: want to go produce Him'm like, I'll take whatever I

508
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: can right now, you know.

509
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 2: So it was really wild.

510
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: I had like fifteen hundred bucks me and gave through

511
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred and fifteen hundred to get the song produced.

512
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 3: And we were like, man, do you think we'll make

513
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: our money back?

514
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: Like I don't have no more money, and so.

515
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: So you take the song though? Do you load it

516
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: up on the digital DSPs? Though thistro kid Okay, so

517
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: you put it there and then it goes up. Now

518
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: that's a song you did on TikTok at first, So

519
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: then how did you get back on TikTok and go

520
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: we just loaded it up? Or did you like, how

521
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: do you let that crew? Because how many followers do

522
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: you have now at this point because of that song?

523
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 3: I so I went from sixty seven thousand that night

524
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: and then when I woke up the next morning, I

525
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: had one hundred and forty thousand.

526
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: So you went from the truck fan the people that

527
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 1: were fans of your work and trucks, and you doubled

528
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: up in one night. And so now you have all

529
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: these music folks too like your music? Yeah, so how

530
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: do you let them know?

531
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: I just I just started doing tiktoks. I was just like, hey, y'all,

532
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: thank you so much further support.

533
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: On this song.

534
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get it out. I really don't

535
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 3: know how we do that yet, but I'm trying to

536
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: figure it out, so just bear with me. And I

537
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: was super just transparent with him, and I just told

538
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: them how it how I was learning how songs were

539
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: made and this and that, and then I just told them, hey,

540
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: I uploaded it and now it's going to be released

541
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 3: this day.

542
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 2: You guys can stream it this day.

543
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: And were you surprised, relieved?

544
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: What?

545
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: Which? When it started to really get some traction in

546
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: that space. Then on the you know, getting streams.

547
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: So when it started like streaming really well, we hit

548
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: a million on Apple and I called I called Gavin

549
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: Mom into the room and I'm like, is this good?

550
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: Like is a million?

551
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: I think it was a million streams first week on Apple?

552
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: And I was like, is this good? How do I

553
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 3: gauge this?

554
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: Like?

555
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: Are we doing good? Is it not making enough money?

556
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: I had no idea. I had no idea what anything was.

557
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: I thought my management before I signed with him, was

558
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: a label.

559
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a common that's common. Yeah, yeah, same thing,

560
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: I label management agents. All that got to me when

561
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: I started too, I was like, wait, I thought, what

562
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: do you do?

563
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're telling me I can have a manager and

564
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: a label at the same time.

565
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: And you're telling me I got to pay a manager

566
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: and an agent. But I feel like it's the same crap. Yes, yes,

567
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: same thing. So you are when did you get managed?

568
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: When did they come to the picture? Do they message

569
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: you from seeing you blow up online?

570
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

571
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: So Scott Frasier hit me on on Instagram and for

572
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: some reason I responded. I would have never responded because

573
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: there's this long, huge message with this weird looking guy

574
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: with a bow tie on and this profile picture, and

575
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 3: I just thought, man, this guy looks like a weirdo.

576
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: But something is telling me I need to like talk

577
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: to him. So I called him and I'm running through

578
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 3: the airport and we just had the best conversation. And

579
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: he introduced me to Chief Chief Saruk and Simon Tickman

580
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: of the Core Entertainment and that was I had already

581
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: had a meeting with Warner with Chris Lacey, and I

582
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: didn't know even what it was. I didn't know what

583
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: I was. I was at this building just talking to

584
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: a bunch of random people about music. And then a

585
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 3: month later I told him all about it and they

586
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: were like, wait a second, You've been talking to Chris

587
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: and you've been doing this and I'm like yeah, and

588
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: they're like, we need to manage you. So they like

589
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: sign me. And then about that was two months after

590
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: Never Coming Home came out, and then I think I

591
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 3: signed my deals, like a month and a half after

592
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: that or two months.

593
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: Mike, can you place someone? And Never Coming Home? And

594
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I got you.

595
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: Blowing up my phone alone that on me and I

596
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: haven't coming home?

597
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, Never Coming Home.

598
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: I'll say good about So what is the label When

599
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: they meet with you and they say, hey, we'd love

600
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: to have you, I love to sign you. What's their

601
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: pitch to you as to why they'd be the right one.

602
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: So when I got with.

603
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: Warren, when I met with Warner for the first time,

604
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't they The first question was do you know

605
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: why you're here?

606
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, no clue. I'm gonna be fully

607
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 2: transparent with you all.

608
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: I have no idea who you are, who you are,

609
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what this building is. And they were like, well,

610
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: we're Warner Nashville, w We're a record label, this and that,

611
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: and I was like okay, And then honestly, it was

612
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 3: just a really good conversation. I just really got to

613
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: know Chris. I really got to know Rohan.

614
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: How did you get down there though? How who told

615
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: you to come to that building and what they told

616
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: you was going to happen there.

617
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: Rohan Kohli is an A and R from Warner and

618
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: he just messed me on Instagram and he just was like, hey, man,

619
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: would you want to come have a meeting?

620
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: And I said sure. I just loved Nashville, So I

621
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: was like, any anything to get me.

622
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: To natually drove down to have the meeting with people.

623
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: You had no idea what they did.

624
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: Yep, eight pharmacy burgers in front of the That was

625
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: when COVID was really really you know, popping and outside

626
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: with mass eating birders and stuff. And we didn't even

627
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: talk about deals or nothing. We didn't talk about anything

628
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: like that.

629
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: What did you tell them that your your life goals were.

630
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: I just told them, I said, I don't know what's

631
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: going on. But more of the story is I've got

632
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: a vision for this.

633
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: I like, I think I know.

634
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: What music I want to sing, and I know how

635
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: I want to do it, and I know who I

636
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: want to be.

637
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's that's what I am.

638
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, I've not written, you know, written any

639
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: more songs of not I don't know how to play guitar.

640
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: I can't do this and I can't do that.

641
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: But I know I've got a vision for what I'm

642
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: doing and social media is working, so I'm just gonna

643
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: keep doing that.

644
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: So you left the meeting. What was like the general

645
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: feeling was that, Hey, we'll talk more. We would love

646
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: to have you go think about it. We don't like

647
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: you like, what, what do they make you feel like?

648
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: Chris made me feel super like at home. I felt

649
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: super like, very comfortable in the situation just with the people.

650
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: I got to know Chris and Rohan really well, just

651
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: sitting there, and it was more like, Hey, we're gonna

652
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: keep watching what you're doing. We're really excited about you.

653
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: And I'm like, hey, I'm just grateful to be here,

654
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: so thanks.

655
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: For having me.

656
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: And they paid for the burgers.

657
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: So let's say paid for the burgers.

658
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and no backtrack in a second. But

659
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm even looking at your dates here because you're gonna

660
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: be doing one, two, three, four us on this eight

661
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: shows and half of them are already sold out, maybe

662
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: more than that at this point. Have you played a

663
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: show yet for more than one hundred people?

664
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we've We've been playing some really crazy shows.

665
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: That's another thing.

666
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: Now, can you sell more than on hundred tickets? Don't

667
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: be confused by that, because I know you can. But

668
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when did you start to actually they make you, okay,

669
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: go in front of this many people. You've never done

670
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: it before, but ghosting in front of folks, when did

671
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: that happen?

672
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: So? My very first show, I had a writer's round

673
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: in Nashville at Live Oak and it was just a

674
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: little acoustic thing, and I was I wasn't really nervous.

675
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I have no idea what I'm doing.

676
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: Let's see how this goes.

677
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: And then the next show I did was Luke Comb's

678
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: Rock the South. I opened for Luke, and it was

679
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 3: I just I've watched rock stars, so I grew up

680
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 3: on rock. I grew up eight years old. I went

681
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: to a Tesla Pop Evil concert.

682
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: And in so you're like like seventies like sixties and

683
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: seventies rock, you say that.

684
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, man class yeah some, but more into like the

685
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: nineties stuff too, like the you know, Saving Abel and

686
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: you know nickel back and.

687
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: Straight ahead or not even nineties alternative, like you're straight

688
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: ahead modern rock nineties.

689
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

690
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: I grew up put just on a lot of rock,

691
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: anything with big guitars, you know, kid rock, show Crow,

692
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: any of that stuff. And so I started going to

693
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: shows when I was like eight or ten.

694
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: And when I went out to.

695
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: Play Rock the South, I just was like, all right,

696
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do what I've seen other people do.

697
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: So like very first thing, I'm running all the way.

698
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: Down the catwalk.

699
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna sprint as fast as i can and

700
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: that'll get people's attention. So literally, very first thing was

701
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: just like sprinted. And I've not stopped every catwalk I've

702
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: ever done. I just go and I just balls the

703
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: walls all the way down and then I just sit

704
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: there and look. But playing these shows for more than

705
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: one hundred people is insane. It's like truly something that

706
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 3: I've never experienced in my whole life.

707
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: No, truly, Yeah, because no, truly, you didn't do school, Like, yeah,

708
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: talent shows. You know, it's like okay, oh I can sing, Well,

709
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: go play for a thousand people. Five thousand people? Yeah,

710
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's baptism by fire. Yeah do you have

711
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: Did you have fun doing it?

712
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh? A blast.

713
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: I learned that to sing you have to breathe. I Like,

714
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: I got off of Rock to South Stage and I said, man,

715
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: I just just don't feel good, don't I just don't

716
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: feel good. I can't breathe. I don't feel good. And

717
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: then I ended up like zonking in the camper. I

718
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: just passed out in the camper. So it was insanely fun,

719
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: insanely fun, like my my body has never felt that.

720
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: Like just I can run as much as I want,

721
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna tell me to shut up.

722
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: I can scream as loud as I want.

723
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: And after that, I was like, I definitely want to

724
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: do this more. But let's figure out how to breathe.

725
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: Let's get in shape, let's get some partio going.

726
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: And it's really a thing. Yeah, And if you don't

727
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: breathe right, especially if you have songs that are even

728
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: the song we just played there, if there's a lot

729
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: of singing, you have to really measure where you're going

730
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: to breathe, or you miss it, you don't get back

731
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: to it until later. They always have a breath, Then

732
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: you're catching up the whole time.

733
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: God awful.

734
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So have you kind of figured out basically, you know,

735
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: when you have a second take a breath.

736
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well the show since then has progressed a lot.

737
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: You know, We've got like a like a break where

738
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: I introduced the band and it gives me just a

739
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: second to like get my heart rate down, get my breathing.

740
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 3: But when you miss a breath, it's hard to catch it.

741
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: You don't you're not getting the back. There's no way

742
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: because your next breath is going to be a shorter

743
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: than what it was supposed to be.

744
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: Terrible and really wordy songs and you know, and also

745
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: do a lot of stand up and so really wordy situations.

746
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: You have to hit your exact points, then you miss it,

747
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: and when you do finally get your second point, you're

748
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: trying to make up for the first one. You're never

749
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: caught up. No, but it's fun that you've got a

750
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: band break because you learn quick.

751
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: Yep, you learn yep. Yeah.

752
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: One night, I just went boys, this thing gonna work,

753
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: this thing gonna work. I gotta I gotta have something

754
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 3: to breathe because that last show is pretty rough. I

755
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: need something to get me through this second half.

756
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: And I've learned.

757
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: I went from playing twenty five minutes with Luke at

758
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: Rock to South to now I can play our our

759
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: half shows whatever in a year. And like, if you'd

760
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: have told me, you know, twenty one year old me

761
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: playing that show, that's like dying in the camper. Like,

762
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: hey man, in a year, you're gonna be just fine.

763
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: The watch out have been like you're a liar. So

764
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: I've learned a lot.

765
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Listening to your music like Rock and a Hard Place

766
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: that's like my vibe musically meaning you know, you go,

767
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, I sing all these songs, but that like

768
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: songs that I can hear the words, I can feel

769
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: the words. I don't need a bunch of tempo like

770
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: that's that's my vibe and even musonically, even musically like

771
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: what you have going personally for me, like I love it.

772
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think, and I don't think I

773
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: have to love something to know why it's good, but like,

774
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: I really love how you're doing it. I want to

775
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: play rock in a hard place right now.

776
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Where and man's are and breaks between you?

777
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: And have you gotten to be a better singer now?

778
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: Because you have to sing a lot more so you

779
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: got to take care of it. But also like tricks

780
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: and you're working on a muscle, are you getting better?

781
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: Insanely better? Going?

782
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: Uh? Looking back at like demos from last year to now,

783
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, we got to reac out those vocals.

784
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: I've I've learned just I've been in a lot of

785
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: vocal lessons.

786
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: I did go through some voice stuff right off the bat.

787
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: I was smoking a lot, and because I used to

788
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: smoke vape and I smoked a lot and singing every

789
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: single day. I was, you know, I was going out

790
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: and having drinks just because I was twenty one.

791
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: And I learned very quickly that you can't do that.

792
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: It's not just this like infamous thing that just has

793
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: power all the time. It's it's a muscle and you

794
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: have to work it. So I've went through the last

795
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: year has been a very informational year. I've learned so

796
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: much just about how the voice works, things to preserve

797
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: the voice, things to do after a show, before a show.

798
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: So you've had to cram that's a great word for it.

799
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: You've had to cram it all that people learn at eight,

800
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: all the way till now for a normal person who

801
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: grows up singing. You had to cram that all in

802
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: one year. Yeah, like all of it, the physical part

803
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: of it, the mental part of it. Take care of

804
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: your voice, and so it's a crash course.

805
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

806
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Feel healthy right now, super healthy. I'm like the healthiest

807
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: I've been in a long time. I've been singing a

808
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 3: lot here recently, and every day I just I'll call

809
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: Chief and good dude, just cut another song, and I

810
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: feel amazing, man, Like I can't I can't express how

811
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: I feel you know, and that just comes with the

812
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: cardio and working hard, you know.

813
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: So do you get nervous when tickets go on sale

814
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: that people are going to buy tickets or did you

815
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: not think about it at all?

816
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: No, I didn't complete transparency. I didn't even know that

817
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: what the dates were yet. I didn't know like the

818
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: routing or what was happening with the tour. And then

819
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Scott called me and said, hey, tickets went on twenty

820
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: five minutes ago and you just sold out six of

821
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: the eight venues. And I'm like, well, that's good, that'll work.

822
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: Let's go that you that that's good.

823
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: That is good. Sold out is always good.

824
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: So the stress didn't even get to you because you

825
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: were still learning and you didn't know what you didn't

826
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: learn yet.

827
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, being just thrown in the fire is honestly, it's

828
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: like can you swim? I don't know, Let me jump

829
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: in and see. So because then you're not so focused

830
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: on the little things. You're more focused on let's keep

831
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: living every day and let's make sure we're progressing.

832
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: And also what I like, what's happening too. If you

833
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: don't know the rules, you don't always follow the rules,

834
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: and sometimes you can create your own rule. And I've

835
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: been able to do that in my career a bit

836
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: where I would just be a dummy at something and

837
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna I'm just gonna attack it, if

838
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: it's writing a book or doing stand up and people like,

839
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: well you have to write it like that. Well, I

840
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: don't know how to write it. So I did it

841
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: my own way. And so when it finally comes to light,

842
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, this is different, and I'm like, oh,

843
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: you're saying it's different. They said it was wrong, but

844
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: it is different because I didn't know how to do it,

845
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: and now it becomes kind of a standard. And I

846
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: can see that happening with you a bit where you

847
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't know. But that's a strength for you because you

848
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: created your own lane. And so that's exciting as an

849
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: artist when you don't know all the rules because you

850
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: can create your own. And with all these other Nashville folks, producers, writers,

851
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: they want you to be around them. I'm assuming like, hey,

852
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: get with this writer. Is that happening to you now

853
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: where they're trying to put your places? Any of these

854
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: rooms you walk into and you're like, dang, you've written

855
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: all these songs and you're gonna write, You're gonna write

856
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: with me? Does that happen at all or is it

857
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: all still a lot of your crew?

858
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

859
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: We wrote with we wrote, I write with of course

860
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: Gavin every single day.

861
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: I right.

862
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: It's awesome too that you guys are still like, like,

863
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: that's that's your dude.

864
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

865
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: I told him from day one, I will never like yo,

866
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: if we start this, it's like in it to win.

867
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know when did he quit his job though,

868
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: that's the question. How long?

869
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: Probably six months ago now. Yeah, he was so nervous.

870
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: He was like, man like, I don't know if I

871
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: should quit. I don't know if I should quit. And

872
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I can promise you I'm gonna work

873
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: really hard to make us both successful.

874
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: Just trust me.

875
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Does he shows with you?

876
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: He loves He.

877
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: Doesn't play him with me, but he goes and he'll

878
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: just watch. He just loves watch. And he's like, dude,

879
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: can you believe that this is what we're doing now

880
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: instead of working?

881
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: So is he he signed a publishing deal?

882
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just signed with Warner Chapel.

883
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's writing songs yep with you with other folks.

884
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bring him. I told him that's what I

885
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: told him too. I said, I will never not bring

886
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: you to a right. You you were always invited to

887
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: a write whatever, whatever right. I don't care if it's

888
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: he's right in the world, you know. So I bring

889
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: him to every right because we grew up, we grew

890
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: up together. He knew, he knows exactly who I am,

891
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: how I like my songs to be, so he can

892
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: kind of help guide the train in the room.

893
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: Has he gotten to be a better guitar player since

894
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: he's around a lot of players all the time.

895
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we both have.

896
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, so you play now? Yeah?

897
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah I can.

898
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I can.

899
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: I played my first I played fall in Love on

900
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: guitar the other day.

901
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: I was very proud of myself.

902
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: So when did you pick it up? And how long

903
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: did it take you before your fingers stopped hurting? Yeah,

904
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: and you could do more than GCD.

905
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: I just honestly going into all the rights. Man, I

906
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: watched just every guitar player. I'd be like, man, that's

907
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: a cool chord. So I would watch every time he

908
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: would go to play that in progression, I'd be like,

909
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: where's his fingers? So then I would go home and

910
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: I would just find it and then I would do

911
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: different variations of that chord to.

912
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: See you would experiment yourself without even knowing what it was, the.

913
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: Same thing with just not knowing the rules.

914
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: You know, And even to this day, everybody's like, hey,

915
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: why don't you think about guitar license. I'm like, you

916
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: know what, no, man, I've been doing everything my whole life,

917
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: whether it came to pipeline or building trucks or this

918
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: and that did it my way because I didn't know

919
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: how to do it. So I'm just gonna keep doing

920
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: it my way and I'm gonna figure it out on

921
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: my own.

922
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel pretty confident playing in front of folks

923
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: now with a guitar.

924
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: Not on stage yet, but playing guitar.

925
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: If they're like, hey, can you play us a song,

926
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I can play a song.

927
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: You know. I can make you think I can play guitar.

928
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: That's what I do too. Yeah, Like I have people

929
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: that are really good, but like, I'm gonna do the

930
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Bluebird on Sunday night because I was sick. I have

931
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: a couple of theater shows in town that I'm doing,

932
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: and so I just need to get on stage a

933
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: couple of times because a lot of myself comedy, and

934
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, you can practice a song, but if I

935
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: don't tell jokes in front of people, I don't know

936
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: if they're funny. Yep, Because I can go like I

937
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: wrote this, it's freaking funny. But if I don't put

938
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: it out in front of people and hear back, I

939
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: never really know. So I'm gonna go play the blue Bird.

940
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it by myself. But like you, I

941
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: gotta really pick the songs that I'm really comfortable with, yep,

942
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: Because unless I got my people around me, I'm very

943
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: selective about what songs I'm gonna be playing. So same

944
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: to where it's like I'm not I can fool you. Yeah,

945
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: if you need twelve minutes like a you'll be like

946
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: that guy is awesome. You play guitar, definitely, Or if

947
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: you need a clip on Instagram, no problem, I can

948
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: do that. So you're playing guitar, are you getting the

949
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: free stuff now or like our music company's reaching out

950
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: guitar guitar companies and anything going, Hey, put this you

951
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: know on your Instagram or your TikTok and and take

952
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: it on stage.

953
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: You need that happening I've been telling Scott and them,

954
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, honestly, I wanted Gibson and I want a

955
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: Gibson deal. I've ever since i've watched The Food Fighters live,

956
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: he Dave Girl's always had a light blue Gibson.

957
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: Whatever that is. It's some some guitar.

958
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: But I've always been a fan of the Less Paul's

959
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: so Les Paul's SG forty or at SG, the J

960
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: forty five's whatever. So I'm like, yo, if I could

961
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: have any guitars, it would be Gibson for sure. Big

962
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: Food Fighter fan, huge massive Food Fighters fan.

963
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I've seen him, I've seen him nine times.

964
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Dave Grohl is just a different energy.

965
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's an energy. It's an exact energy that nobody

966
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: else has.

967
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they grow live Yep. When I when I watch that,

968
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: I go I want to be him. I want to

969
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: be Vince Neil. I want to be these.

970
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Rocks, Crazy Motley Crue too.

971
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: Oh I watched I watched The Dirt every single night

972
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: all the way through. I never I never not finish,

973
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: not every single night, every I swear for the last

974
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: It's good three and a half months.

975
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: I've just manifested that I.

976
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: Want to what about that though, And not like the

977
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: crazy party like drugs and stuff, but just the way

978
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: they live life. I want to just do what I want.

979
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: I've always had that mentality of my whole life. I

980
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: just don't tell me what to do. I just want

981
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: to do what I want. I just want to be

982
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: able to live.

983
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: Let's do this. Five singers front man, Okay, and that

984
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: could be too you may move off of it. Who

985
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: are the five front men that you've watched as a

986
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: kid and you're like, I want to be them, and

987
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: now you're actually going I always wanted to be them,

988
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: but I didn't really know, But now I do really

989
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: want to be them as I do this. Who is

990
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: it hiring you?

991
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: Vince Neil, Chad Kroeger, Nickelback, Jeff Keith from Tesla, No Girl,

992
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: Chris Cornell, Chris Cornell. We were watching him last night

993
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: and he was different, man. Chris Cornell was different. Scott

994
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: Stapped is badass. Scott's badass. Any any of them old rockers, man,

995
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: they just all knew how to Just have you met

996
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: Scott No, Nope, not yet.

997
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: We've had him. We've had him here before.

998
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: He follows me on TikTok. He does he does follow

999
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: me on TikTok.

1000
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. I was a big that's a huge

1001
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Creed guy when you are with awesome. I went to

1002
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: a Creed show from Arkansas, really small town in Arkansas

1003
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: about A and Dred people like you. Grew up in

1004
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: a town like you the same size, and drove to

1005
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: Little Rock to watch Creed in an arena. And I

1006
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: was a teenager, so I bet I was working in radio.

1007
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: And I went back and Scott Stapp was walking around,

1008
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: and you know, they were massive at the time, and

1009
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: he was like, where's the pig pong table? It was

1010
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: I was next to the ping pong table. I don't

1011
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't know to play ping pong. Yeah. I picked

1012
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: up Battle and he found it. It was like to

1013
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: play ping pong. I was like, yeah, said he said,

1014
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: you won't play. It's like I don't. I don't play

1015
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: ping pong. Oh my gosh, I don't play pingle And

1016
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, of course, and he goes, all, right,

1017
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: here we go. I don't even know the rules, like

1018
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: you have to hit on the ground first, Yeah, to

1019
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: be around, see, you have to hit on the table

1020
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: to hit it over. And he goes you want to

1021
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: go first. Here he goes, you go first. I don't

1022
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: know what to do. I go no, no, you go first.

1023
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: You're the guestrash course. Yeah yeah, And I'm watching he

1024
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: hits it and I'm like, okay, I think he beat me,

1025
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know twenty one before we got to

1026
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: twenty one zero, he was like, you don't want to

1027
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: play and he quit. We quit and he walked on.

1028
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: He's like, you don't want to play and he walked

1029
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: off and I told him that story and he goes, yeah,

1030
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: thats about like me. He's awesome now. But that's that's

1031
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: really cool. So you don't put Dave groll up there

1032
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: though at your top five.

1033
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's so hard Dave Grohl would be up there.

1034
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: He's such so many He's such an intense positive energy

1035
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: when he performs yeah, and he screams and I don't

1036
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: want to throw that word screen round, but he screams

1037
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: right on key Yeah. I mean it's it's perfect. And

1038
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: I've seen him nine times and it's always been one

1039
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: of the greatest shows I've ever seen, every single time.

1040
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen him live? Never seen it? I've

1041
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: on YouTube every day every single day. I just watched

1042
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: Dave Girl, I've watched. I really like going back to

1043
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: like the Nirvana days and watching Dave Young because I like,

1044
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: look at.

1045
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: Him, straight, straight hair, long haired, goofy playing the drums.

1046
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Grunge, just really grunge.

1047
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: And I like look back at that, and I look

1048
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: at him and I go, all right, what has he

1049
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: done from then to now to better his life? Because

1050
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: if he was doing these things of twenty two, probably

1051
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: shouldn't do those. What has he done? He's a super

1052
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: big role model. Yeah, Like looking at him through the phone,

1053
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: I just go, man.

1054
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: I would be best friends with this guy. I feel like.

1055
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: It's interesting too, because you know, he's in Nirvana and

1056
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: he is starting to do the Foo Fighters, but he's

1057
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: doing it's all him, all just he created all that himself,

1058
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: all the instruments, everything. Yeah, and he talks about you know,

1059
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: he gave it to show to Kurt, and kurts like, great,

1060
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: that's all you know. So he had already been on

1061
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: that a bit. And I think at times, and obviously

1062
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm way older than you, but I grew up a

1063
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: massive Nirvana fan, massive Foo Fighters fan, like that for

1064
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: me was when I was a kid, kid and to

1065
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: watch him come out of Nirvana possibly one of the top,

1066
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: depending on decade, top ten biggest rock groups of all

1067
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: time because Vana made the whole ninety sound there, the

1068
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: first one, yep. And for him to go from something

1069
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: that big to something else that's massive that really aren't connected.

1070
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it twice. He did it twice in

1071
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: his life, and I don't think.

1072
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he gets the respect, and he

1073
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: gets a lot of respect, but I don't think he

1074
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: gets what he deserves. I would argue, and this would

1075
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: be an interesting conversation that he is right now America's

1076
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: biggest rock star. He's a little older. But who would

1077
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: be a bigger rock rock star than Dave Grohl? Meaning success, relevance, history,

1078
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Who's an American rock star? Rolling Stones are still dead,

1079
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: so you can't They're not dead. They're still alive, but

1080
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: they're British. Yeah, right, And I'm counting the old people.

1081
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: But once you get certain old, you're not even Cole

1082
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: plays a massive rock band that's still here, not American

1083
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: name a bigger American rock.

1084
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: Star, I don't think there is. Dave Grohl.

1085
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I think that's it.

1086
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's like the craziest part about him is

1087
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: he's never lost momentum.

1088
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: He's always just been it.

1089
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: And they just put out another record and it was

1090
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: massive again. Yeah.

1091
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: Few fighters just put another record out, yeah, like.

1092
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: A year ago or so. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, that's

1093
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, like just meaning they're in their fifties. Yeah,

1094
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: and that's just and it was relevant even then. So

1095
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty cool to hear your influences. And it's

1096
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: also pretty cool that you're honest about them. Yeah, you know,

1097
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I'm just a big fan.

1098
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan now, even more so after spending

1099
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: time with you, because like, I enjoy what you're about.

1100
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: It's just all right, this is presented itself. I really

1101
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: love it. I want to work really hard to do it.

1102
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: And you don't know the rules and that's great. Yeah,

1103
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna get in trouble, you have people

1104
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: now that'll stop. If we're get in trouble, yeah, they'll

1105
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: be like, well we can't do that, but like that

1106
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: might put you in jail. But I like where your

1107
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: mind was. I do want to play All in Love, Mike,

1108
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: if you could play that, please Top forty Radio right now, yeah,

1109
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a little little let's go. Yeah. Yeah,

1110
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: And that is a whole different animal, meaning you have

1111
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are gonna come to shows,

1112
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: but it's just a different kind of And I say

1113
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: radio to me is radio, it's satellite. It's anything where

1114
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: the mass population that is not extremely tuned into the

1115
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: digital space where they just hear things and then become

1116
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: fans of a that's a game. The space you're going

1117
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: into now is a game changer because you already got

1118
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: one unlock and you keep putting stuff there. You're gonna

1119
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: hold that unlocked because of who you are and how

1120
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: good you are. But man, you start to become just everywhere.

1121
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Once you hit freaking radio.

1122
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: You can change somebody's life, an artist's life so many

1123
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: time like ways.

1124
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: But if you go to radio and you have a song,

1125
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: do good, Like.

1126
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: People's aunts didn't know who you are? Yeah, random people's

1127
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: ants like oh yeah, I know I've heard of Bailey.

1128
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1129
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: And I think it's so funny talking about radio. Small towns,

1130
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 3: hometowns of artists. You're never like a big artist until

1131
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: you're on like the highway, or until you're on you know.

1132
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Someone can actually listen to in their car. Whatever it is,

1133
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: You're not big until then.

1134
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: Yep, No, I saw him. I was on the way

1135
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: to k season. Helly came on to radio. He must

1136
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: be getting pretty big, you know. So I've always thought

1137
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: it is so funny how you really nobody really knows

1138
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: like music industry unless you're really in it, you know.

1139
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: So radio is a weird thing that I'm still trying

1140
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: to learn. I'm still trying to understand it.

1141
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think there's any to understand. I

1142
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: get pissed at. I'm like, yeah, the whole situation, well man,

1143
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: it's it's really cool. Like, keep at it. I'm anxious

1144
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: to see how you just you just kill it, you know.

1145
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: You came in. I was like, yeah, we'll see how

1146
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: this guy is. It probably a you're not you're not,

1147
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: You're just not. And I'm super pumped it that we

1148
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: were able to make this happen. I was with my

1149
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: manager just this is how, this is how it happened.

1150
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: I was with my manager and we were talking about

1151
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: just general consumption and he said, Bailey Zimmerman is like

1152
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: one or two this week, and I just heard it

1153
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: and whatever. People people are always telling me that things

1154
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: are good or things are not good, and so I

1155
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: was like, cool. So Mike, who's like my main guy

1156
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: here at my producer, my right hand guy and everything

1157
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: I do. I was like, hey, I know anything about it.

1158
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know who you were. I was like, Bailey Zimmerman,

1159
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: what's the deal. Uh, apparently she's killing it. Like I

1160
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: said earlier, said she's killing it, and Mike goes mm.

1161
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: We talked about the saying Bailey Zimmerman because the one

1162
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: I know is not a she, and I was like,

1163
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: whoever it is, I need I need to know what's up.

1164
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: And so then I found out what's up. And I

1165
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: saw like all your dad and listen to your songs

1166
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I was like, okay, I'm into it.

1167
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: And then now get to spend time with you. It's

1168
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: like I might be your biggest fan. I might be

1169
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 1: a number one family that that's it. I'm paying for ingrades.

1170
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: But dude, I've been your biggest fan. I've I saw

1171
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: Mitchell's wife, Megan, Meghan Mitchell.

1172
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Meghan.

1173
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: I saw her cry on her tour bus because you,

1174
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: like you had her on your show and stuff.

1175
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: And I thought, dude, I want to cry. I want

1176
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: to I want to do that, like I want to be.

1177
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 3: On Bobby Bones. Like that would be so sick because

1178
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: I like just you know, going around Nash listening to you, like, hey,

1179
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: like my style and she was like, yeah, that's Bobby

1180
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: Bone's house. I'm like, man, maybe one day I'll get

1181
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: to go over there and like do that show or something.

1182
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: So well, you should come up whenever you're good and

1183
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: we got a whole stage at the studio. You play

1184
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: play one morning. It'd be awesome, dude, I'm in it'd

1185
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: be awesome.

1186
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: I've not actually played a radio show yet like that

1187
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: really where it's like hey, eight am, we're gonna come

1188
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: in and we're gonna play.

1189
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: I've never I've not done that yet.

1190
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Well, I know it sounds exciting, but kind of sucks

1191
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: because you're like, a, I never sing at eight am. Hey,

1192
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: we just had Cody Johnson in and he did a

1193
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: bunch of songs and he was like, man, and Cody

1194
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: plays for twenty thousand people at the night every night. Yeah,

1195
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, it's singing in the morning. This

1196
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of sucks. I'm like, I know, imagine waking up

1197
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: at three to do this stupid show for.

1198
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: Five hours, stupid show.

1199
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: And it's awesome. But you don't like I don't like

1200
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: being early. That part sucks. We'll keep it up, man.

1201
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm really really pumped for you.

1202
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1203
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 3: Man.

1204
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: It's exciting to see all that you're accomplishing. And it

1205
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: sounds like you have your priorities and check you're still

1206
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: you got your boys you came up with, you're still

1207
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: running with them. That's such an awesome story. And I'll

1208
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: end on this and that it's such a story. And

1209
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: I and you know, in five years, ten years, we'll

1210
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: see where it takes you. But like when you talk

1211
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: to Garth or when you talk to Dave, girl, they've

1212
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: had this small, small group of folks the whole time,

1213
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: and that has been a bit of what has at

1214
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: times kept them centered either as a human or creatively

1215
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes a little bit of both, sometimes one or

1216
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: the other. But yeah, you and you and your boy.

1217
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: I hope you guys are are doing it for a

1218
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: long long time.

1219
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: I will never get rid of him, so I.

1220
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Mean famous last words, I love it, I love it,

1221
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: I love it. Well yeah save that, yeah, well yeah,

1222
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: and maybe he wants to get rid of you. So

1223
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: let's not like that. It's all you tell your mama said, hello,

1224
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Well she sounds awesome. If she ever comes down and

1225
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: she's here, uh, bring her to the show, bring her up,

1226
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: We'll do the whole thing.

1227
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: I love.

1228
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: I love a supportive mom that is just like living

1229
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: uh through their kid and someone who you call and

1230
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: like hey, this is happening, and I feel like that's

1231
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: that's awesome. All right there. I'll tell you guys, go

1232
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: follow Bailey Bailey dot Zimmerman on both TikTok and Instagram,

1233
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: and that's it. I got nothing, Mike, is anything you

1234
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: want to say? This has been one of the most

1235
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: fun interviews I've done in a long time. Down Yeah, dude,

1236
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you a lot. It's it gets to be

1237
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: pretty douchey, and so it's awesome. This has been really fun.

1238
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was super nervous. You were I was.

1239
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: I was nervous, man Like, Okay, honestly, I thought maybe

1240
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: maybe Bobby's a douche. I feel like, I'm so nervous

1241
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: to go into these rooms and with these random people

1242
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: because you know how it is, like it's very easy

1243
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: to get off the ground when you're a person of

1244
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: interest and people know who you are when you go around,

1245
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: and so going in here.

1246
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: I was like, I really hope Bobby's just like a child.

1247
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: Look at just hanging well.

1248
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: I think at this point I am. I think I

1249
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: got to this town it was normal. I was like, wow,

1250
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I had a couple of years

1251
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: where things blew up really fast. I didn't know what

1252
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: was going on, and I was like, oh, maybe I will.

1253
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: And I had my douche eighteen months or so because

1254
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: I was just confused, and I was like, oh, maybe

1255
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: I am way cooler than I and so I was wrong.

1256
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: I was way less cold than I actually thought. And

1257
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: so but now I know that, and you know, I

1258
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: just I'll leave with this. And I've had a couple

1259
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: of friends that are artists that started. I was like,

1260
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill it. I can just see it. I

1261
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: can see it already. You're gonna kill it. This is

1262
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a long career for You're gonna be super successful,

1263
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: You'll have it's just try to shorten your douche yes

1264
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: as much as you can. Yeah, you're gonna have a

1265
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: couple of douche months on the minimal, but it's have

1266
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: a good piece people around you, hopefully they're douches with you.

1267
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: Get to live that out and then you get back

1268
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: to normal and you're like, remember that douche team months

1269
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: we had, let's never do that again. But you're old

1270
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: that just don't be a douche to me. We're all good.

1271
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: You mean to do everybody else. You're owning a good

1272
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: douche a team months and then back at it, you know, yeah,

1273
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: next time, all right, I'm gonna listen to this. You think, oh, yeah,

1274
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: what's her name? Christy, Christy, Chris, you are more than welcome.

1275
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: If Bailey's ever like, I'm going to Bobby's show, you

1276
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: come with him. I would love to meet you, and

1277
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: I hope you're super proud of him. You've got a

1278
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: good kid. You stop stop vaping.

1279
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: That's sick.

1280
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he stopped vaping because because that's that voice.

1281
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: That's what it is like. If you want to care

1282
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: about your professional career, you got to take care of things.

1283
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

1284
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: And so all right, there he is, all right, Bailey Zimmerman.

1285
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Follow Bailey. Tickets, I'd say get them. There are a

1286
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: couple of shows where it's like three tickets left. And

1287
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: separate parts of the venue. He's selling out like crazy.

1288
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: But if he comes, go see him all right. Bally

1289
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: good to see Buddy, good to see him. Man