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Speaker 1: Really really, donks look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat twenty and it's time Donkeys four

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 2: am from CBS Sports. I am joined by my co

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Speaker 2: is co host Boy. The fans loved that little bit

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Speaker 2: that you did. That we then turned into some social

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Speaker 2: media assets BC. So congratulations Brian Campbell. Everybody on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the screen, you can.

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Speaker 3: Say thank you, Luke, thank you Looke before we potentially

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Speaker 3: trade hostilities, which is very possible on this show. Although

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Speaker 3: it is Wednesday, it's a fun day, No Jay. Wednesday's

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Speaker 3: NJW in the house. Indeed, it's also Veterans Day. Luke,

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Speaker 3: so I did wanta in full sincerity tell you that

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Speaker 3: a there is no such thing as an ex marine,

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Speaker 3: a former marine, whatever you want to call it. And Luke,

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Speaker 3: thank you for serving this great country of ours.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Do me a favor. I want to grab something.

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Speaker 2: Put BC on the screen if you can, gaff Or

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Speaker 2: Corey who's ever doing this? I want to grab something

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Speaker 2: here real quickly, but I gotta dig it up, So

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Speaker 2: here we go.

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Speaker 3: All right, look on here. I didn't want to show

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Speaker 3: you my sweet peach wow, sweet piece of three ninety

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Speaker 3: nine merch I picked up and I wore today because

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Speaker 3: like Vulcano's demir when he knocks out fools in a

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Speaker 3: Fort Lauderdale bar, I've got no time for any of

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas's shenanigans today, So thank you very much. No

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Speaker 3: time for shenanigans, any of your typical bullshit, Luke. All right,

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Speaker 3: what do you got here, Luke? You gotta you gotta

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Speaker 2: I found this, I dug this out. So this is

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Speaker 2: your boy, about nine weeks into Marine Corps boot camp.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see.

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Speaker 3: Yes, look at that guy. Believe it in you. This

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Speaker 3: is a point in your life when all conspiracies felt.

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Speaker 2: True to you, Luke, not quite true. And then here

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Speaker 2: is I was with two platoons. So I was with

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Speaker 2: Echo Company twenty seventy four in parasylum, and then I

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Speaker 2: skipped team week and I went to Alpha Company, and

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Speaker 2: then I was with ten sixty six. But this was

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Speaker 2: the group I spent the most amount of time with.

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Speaker 2: And there is your boy, El Thomas. You can see

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Speaker 3: Maybe not to the game of guess who, Luke, it's

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Speaker 2: Let me say this. The guy next to me, my

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Speaker 2: bunk mate, because it's all alphabetical, there's me El Thomas.

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Speaker 2: My bunk mate was b Thomas, and he was a

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Speaker 2: much better recruit than I was. But one time he

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Speaker 2: it said was Thomas. And I remember this drill instructor

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Speaker 2: right here, staff Sergeant Bale. And then here was our

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Speaker 2: as tattoos. Anyway, day one time we're like, Thomas, get

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Speaker 2: your fucking ass over here. We're gonna blah blah blah

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Speaker 3: Luke, Chris good as this moment was and it is.

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Speaker 3: This is a genuine moment. Thank you, Luke. I'm not

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Speaker 3: every show with an audio tech issue. So uh hey,

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Speaker 3: so lout Luke. All right, all right, woo ah, I

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Speaker 3: got you all at Jackets.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at BC PEO po coming out fucking blasting.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of bullets, Luke, you wrongly had said that I

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Speaker 3: don't support our full team here, You're wrong, Luke. Check

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Speaker 3: Now we get a fight that just tells me, Luke,

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Speaker 2: There's just no doubt about it. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: certainly I'm not gonna say not great, but an uphill climb,

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty fair. And if you win, you

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't see it as much, because look, I feel

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Speaker 2: would have really gone down. But you know, when Connor

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Speaker 2: McGregor was looking to fill in I think against Frankie

429
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Speaker 2: Edgar for some fight, or against Frankie Edgar. I can't

430
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Speaker 2: remember the exact circumstances at this point, my memory is

431
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Speaker 2: a little bit fading. But Connor McGregor was willing to

432
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Speaker 2: step in on short notice against this sort of credential opponent,

433
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Speaker 2: even at inhospitable weight class. And you know there's a

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Speaker 2: guy who has no real need to do it. I mean,

435
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Speaker 2: I think you're right, you'd still see it, particularly for

436
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Speaker 2: those who are trying to get to the UFC. Hey

437
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 2: guy fell out with Rona. Can you take a fight

438
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Speaker 2: in the UFC on three days and you've been feeding

439
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Speaker 2: it fighting in you know, you know, Cage Fury not

440
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Speaker 2: paying you shit championships or whatever. Yes, I think you'll

441
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Speaker 2: see it there. Or if someone's on a card, same

442
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Speaker 2: weight class opponent falls out, will you change opponents, especially

443
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Speaker 2: if you need to when you want to make good

444
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Speaker 2: with the promotion, it could come with a pay bump.

445
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: That's the other part too. It could change the mechanics

446
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Speaker 2: where if some of the falls out and you want

447
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: to take the headlining slot, UFC through some kind of

448
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: union obligation would have to like, you know, double your

449
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Speaker 2: pay or something. I'm making something up, but you know,

450
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Speaker 2: some kind of ordered mechanism by which to bump your pay.

451
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Speaker 2: All of those could be in play. So that can

452
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Speaker 2: kind of do it. But I just can't. I can't

453
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Speaker 2: quite figure out where the incentives in terms of making

454
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Speaker 2: it happen because you're trying to please somebody in an

455
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Speaker 2: unequal relationship begins and where the culture of it's been

456
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Speaker 2: such a practice for so long, not just in UFC,

457
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Speaker 2: in other MMA organizations. You might just see more of

458
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Speaker 2: it and more of it and more of it because

459
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Speaker 2: or at least continuing it, I should say, because it's

460
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Speaker 2: just a thing MMA fighters do. I don't know. I

461
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Speaker 2: think there's a bit of a culture there, you know.

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Speaker 3: I want to look back at sort of some of

463
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Speaker 3: the more monumental moments in the UFC that we've seen

464
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Speaker 3: that and there's been times, you know, justin Gage you

465
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Speaker 3: took advantage. Yet Jorge Moswell tried the same thing, of

466
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Speaker 3: course this year and lost to Maybe the best example

467
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Speaker 3: in terms of success is Michael Bisbee coming off the

468
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Speaker 3: movie Sat Luke of Triple X with Vin Diesel and

469
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Speaker 3: walking in there and upsetting Luke Rockold when Widman fell out.

470
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Speaker 2: But the Daz and Connor too.

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Speaker 3: Na Diez was certainly look look, yeah, that was a

472
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Speaker 3: big situation. And uh and don't forget your O favor

473
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Speaker 3: claims he was right in that discussion until the final second,

474
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Speaker 3: Luke when they went with Nadiez. But do you think

475
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Speaker 3: there's a more surprising one. And I'll give you mine

476
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Speaker 3: than Anderson silvat UFC two hundred got it took her

477
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Speaker 3: the fight on like two hours, notice, Luke, and fought

478
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Speaker 3: Daniel Cormier and the damn comaane event. I mean, what

479
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Speaker 3: wasn't the comin event? You get my point? I mean

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Speaker 3: that that I don't think I've been more surprised than

481
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Speaker 3: that right there. Even though that quickly turned into almost

482
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Speaker 3: a carnival type fight with no rules and no meaning.

483
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Speaker 3: Really it was just sort of an attraction one time,

484
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Speaker 3: let's see it.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the UFC was like, who could

486
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Speaker 2: we possibly put on this card to retain some of

487
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Speaker 2: the value now that DC versus Jones is off and

488
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Speaker 2: they got a Heerson Silva versus d C. And you

489
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Speaker 2: think yourself, my god, if that's who they can call

490
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Speaker 2: out of the bullpen and put on a card. I mean,

491
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Speaker 2: it just speaks to their incredible culture of doing this,

492
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Speaker 2: but also the reservoir of talent who was willing to

493
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Speaker 2: do this kind of thing. Now, the fight ended up

494
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 2: being weird, there's no nonbe about it. But yeah, that

495
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: was an interesting moment as well. And so it goes

496
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 2: back to these questions like what are successful examples? What

497
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: are bad examples of it? To me, the Nate Diaz

498
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Speaker 2: and Connor in the first fight, so or you brought

499
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Speaker 2: it up, you could say, even the Andy Ruiz and

500
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Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua fight. I mean, that's the reason why these

501
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: guys don't do that, right, is because the A side

502
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: ends up getting toppled out of nowhere, and now you

503
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Speaker 2: have to go and reconfigure the whole division for a second.

504
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Speaker 2: And they had to go into the Andy Ruiz fight

505
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Speaker 2: with Clash on the Dunes in Saudi Arabia, they had

506
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Speaker 2: to do the second ds fight, And there's controversy but

507
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Speaker 2: that and in the end the promotions made it work

508
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: for their own respective reasons. But it causes a lot

509
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Speaker 2: of problems, or at least I should say it changes

510
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Speaker 2: a lot of plans. When things don't go according to plan,

511
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Speaker 2: you don't exactly have that. In this case BC with

512
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: RDA and Paul, it could change the trajectory of their careers,

513
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: but it doesn't really affect the entire division or title

514
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: implications or that kind of a thing. So for that reason,

515
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: it's a lot less risky. But it's amazing that the

516
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: UFC is by itself we don't talk about it this way.

517
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Speaker 2: We keep talking about the fighters. The UFC accepts some

518
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Speaker 2: measure of risk, but the thing that they love more

519
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: than anything in the world is keeping the machine going.

520
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 2: If you take a fight on short notice and you

521
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: don't make weight, they have been very clear BC, you're

522
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Speaker 2: not doing them any favors. We want you to fill

523
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Speaker 2: in on short notice, yes, but we want you to

524
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Speaker 2: do it in an orderly way so we don't have

525
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: to do catchweight bullshit. Again, it will happen on occasion

526
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Speaker 2: if it's really short notice and they're really making a sacrifice,

527
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Speaker 2: but in general it's not something they appreciate. So to me,

528
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Speaker 2: it's also a question of what is their corporate ethos

529
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Speaker 2: and theirs is grind the gears. Baby, Let's keep this

530
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Speaker 2: thing moving, and.

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Speaker 3: Let's shout out to Max Holloway for trying at two

532
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Speaker 3: twenty three to try to save the day the same

533
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: way obviously was la Keita in the end, and I

534
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: showed himself well in that moment. Didn't get the victory though, Luke.

535
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: You ever have like a vacation coming up or a

536
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Speaker 3: high school reunion and you're like, dude, I gotta get

537
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: in shape for this I got when I show up

538
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: on the beach. I gotta have a flat stomach. I

539
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: gotta get rid of these moves right, And then you

540
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: know halfway there, you worked out for a couple of

541
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: days and you're just like, screw it, dude, I'm getting

542
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: a You know, you told me you texted me the

543
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: other night. You're like, my fat ass is getting ice

544
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: cream from Uber Eats. I was like, get on with

545
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 3: your fat self, Luke. At what point in the training

546
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Speaker 3: camp for Clash at the Dunes did Andy Ruiz like

547
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Speaker 3: do you think it was his Do you think he

548
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: said to himself at the start of that camp, you

549
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: know what, I'm just gonna heat, I'm just gonna become

550
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Speaker 3: a fat shit and lose the belt, Like you think

551
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: it was that? Or do you think there was a

552
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: no shit moment halfway through where he's like, god, you know,

553
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: he's juggling pizza and wings. He's just like, you know what,

554
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: bro f it.

555
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Speaker 2: I think I guarantee there was a month left and

556
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Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I'm in trouble, probably your trouble.

557
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Speaker 2: But he also probably thought, you know, if I did

558
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: it once, I can do it again in kind of

559
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: a thing, right, Yeah, So I think that's probably what

560
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: went down with it. He was just like, but I

561
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: guarantee you there was a moment about a month out

562
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I fucked this one up a

563
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: little bit, and in fact he did, so there you go,

564
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Speaker 2: all right, all right? Ooh. Topic number two McGregor at

565
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Speaker 2: Parier Drama. So yesterday MMA fightings Damon Martin. He may

566
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Speaker 2: have had someone else who helped them along, but Damon

567
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Speaker 2: Martin said that it's on Parier and McGregor have agreed

568
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: whole nine yards. There is still McGregor pushing for an

569
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Speaker 2: earlier date, but if it had to go down the

570
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Speaker 2: twenty third of January, that'd be fine. But no other

571
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Speaker 2: outlet reported it, so I'm not here to say that

572
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: it's not a done deal. But then I think Dana

573
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Speaker 2: was it Today's Wednesday. So last night's Contender series postfight

574
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Speaker 2: presser was saying McGregor still hasn't signed yet.

575
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think MMA Fighting jumped the Gune. Ariel then

576
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: came out and had talked to the Connor and they

577
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: hadn't signed yet, and like you said, they were hoping

578
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Speaker 3: for December. And then Dana told Okamoto that if if

579
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Speaker 3: it happens, it has to be in Fight Island until

580
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: the world changes. So there's still a lot up in

581
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Speaker 3: the air here.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Well, what do you make of this? Are we

583
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: actually gonna get it? I mean, what is what is

584
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: your read and temperature on whether or not it actually happens?

585
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna get it. I've seen too much,

586
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: too much tweeting from Conor McGregor, too much of a

587
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: refocus to do what we're so pleasantly surprised he's willing

588
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: to do. Get out of the motive just celebrity fighter. Right,

589
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: We're not talking at the moment about boxing Paqiao or

590
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: fighting Nate for the third time. We're talking about getting

591
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: back in line and in these lightweight stakes and and

592
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: and trying to win back that title. I think it's

593
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: gonna happen. I think it could be really well. Look,

594
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: it's gonna be massive no matter what. But look, if

595
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: we can we can get people in a building, we

596
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: can open up allegied stadium or something. I mean, look,

597
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: there is if the loss, if the if the Fauci

598
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: shit changes a little bit, Luke, there is some potential here.

599
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: I love and understand Connor saying I want it now.

600
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Speaker 3: Let's do it in December. You may you know, you

601
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: may have just lost a title fight main event there.

602
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: Let me fill in and take that from you. No

603
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: matter how it ends up playing out, I think before

604
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: the end of January, we're gonna see this fight, and

605
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fantastic and it's gonna be huge. Look,

606
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: this fight's gonna be huge, brother, huge.

607
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know what the right answer is

608
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: on this one, because you had that great news with

609
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: the vaccine, which means if people take it, and if

610
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: there's some kind of a way to assess who has

611
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: taken it or something similar or whatever, you could put

612
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: a lot more than just five thousand fans in Allegiant Stadium. However,

613
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: you know, we had fourteen hundred people die yesterday from coronavirus.

614
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: Two hundred thousand in the country test positive. While our

615
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: ability to treat this is better than it has been

616
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: relative to March, it's significantly better, we're just infecting a

617
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: lot more people all over the place. In fact, I'm

618
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Speaker 2: not sure I'm gonna be able to have a Thanksgiving

619
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Speaker 2: with my family because my dad is high risk, and

620
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: so is my sister in law, and so I don't

621
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Speaker 2: know if it's all gonna go down. So I know

622
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Speaker 2: this is a bit of a sort of a side

623
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Speaker 2: note relative to where you put it Fight Island or

624
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Apex or whatever. I think if there would be a

625
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: way to get it done with fans, you could, But dude,

626
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: data just doesn't seem It's like either you can have

627
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: all the fans or none of the fans. I don't

628
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: know that. I understand that. I at a bare minimum,

629
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Speaker 2: wouldn't you explore like Australia or New Zealand where you

630
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: could have this. People would have to quarantine a little bit,

631
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: but you can have it, and then you could have

632
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Speaker 2: packed arenas for a McGregor fight in twenty twenty or

633
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: potentially twenty twenty one first quarter. That seems like a

634
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: thing you would actually want to pursue if you could

635
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: do it. They don't seem that interested in it, dude,

636
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

637
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting point. Maybe Dana's plugged in on

638
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: certain deep right wing networks, you know, from the underground

639
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: mountain bunkers in Colorado, where I believe the government choices

640
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Speaker 3: of this country actually made Luke in opposition of the

641
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: European banks. Maybe they're getting projections that might allow the

642
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: potential of something like this in the Vegas football stadium

643
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: filled up. So that's why Dana is saying, I'm not

644
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: going to commit to a venue yet. It would be

645
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: Fight Island if it has to be. But let's see

646
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: how the war. We're waiting on the world to change.

647
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: Luke Okay, all right.

648
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: You know what's weird about that? Though, he was the

649
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: guy who was like, well, after the election of this

650
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Corona thing goes away. I'm like, Dana, I'm not sure

651
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: if you're paying attention here, Bud, but uh not going away,

652
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: fact getting worse again. So that's fun, all right. I

653
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot to say on this topic,

654
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: but it's worth mentioning. BC. Amanda Nunez and Megan Anderson

655
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: were supposed to fight at the main event of UFC

656
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: two fifty six. In fact, it relates to our last

657
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: point because Connor apparently is pushing to get into that

658
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: slot inside of twenty twenty, given that now the greatest

659
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: women's fighter of all time is no longer competing. She

660
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: was forced to withdraw with you to some kind of issue,

661
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: a medical issue. We don't really know exactly what it is.

662
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say.

663
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: It's like.

664
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: On the one hand, this probably benefits Megan because she

665
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: needs as much time as possible, I think, to get

666
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: ready for our challenge this formidable. On the other hand,

667
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: I respect me and Anderson. I think she's a very

668
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: smart person, a very talented person. But you know you're

669
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: fighting Amanda Nunaz. I can't count her out. But it's

670
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: hard to counter too much in and even with a

671
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: delay BC, I don't know that immediately changes the way

672
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: which I look at this fight.

673
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: No, it probably doesn't. I'm a little bit surprised at

674
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: this one thing. Look, I'm not trying to, you know,

675
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: carve a path of upset victory here for Anderson. You know,

676
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: I think we know who she is for the most part. Right,

677
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: She's good fighter, right, got a lot of tats, beautiful lady,

678
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 3: very good fighter. I think people are just crapping on

679
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: her chances though, and I get it in light of

680
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: Amanda's dominance. Absolutely, I just think Luke, she's a different

681
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: style of opponent that Amanda's faced recently. Right, She's bigger

682
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: and longer, natural, more for this weight class in a

683
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: lot of ways. If Amanda's potentially and I don't know

684
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: if this is an injury, I don't know what's going

685
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: on in Amanda's life. I know her and Nina just

686
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: had the first child, and congratulations and all that. Hopefully

687
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: all it's going well. But if there's any element of distraction,

688
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: or injury or any of what we talked about earlier

689
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: in the year, Luke, the idea that maybe Amanda is

690
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: not long for this long term. Maybe you know, maybe

691
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: she's she's reached the mountaintop. Everything's going great, and you know,

692
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: this might be the best time to fight her. Okay,

693
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: that's all I'm gonna say. I think I just give

694
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: Megan Anderson more of a chance. I think she's got

695
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: a she's she's a I don't know, Luke, I'm seeing something, Okay,

696
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm seeing something that says this probably all could potentially

697
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: play into her hands if she's got a shot, Luke,

698
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: this might be the best case scenario.

699
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: For Yeah, this is the best case scenario. Again, we

700
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: would back I always talk about it, Matt. Sarah was

701
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: supposed to fight GSP Initially, the fight got delayed, and

702
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Sarah was clear those extra eight weeks of sparring, of

703
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: hitting pads and really working on the game plan, that

704
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: was when things really turned the corner for him and

705
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: you saw the fruits of that labor. So yes, I

706
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: would agree. This is definitely if you're a Megan Anderson,

707
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: is probably frustrating, but it's only a month delay and

708
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: it gives you more time to, by the way, if

709
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: your Megan innercent work on your way, because for her

710
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: gettingto one forty five is not easy. So there's a

711
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: lot of waste in which to look at this and say,

712
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, this might narrow the gap a little bit,

713
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: But the question is does it meaningfully narrow the gap?

714
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: And that's the part that I think is a little

715
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: bit hard to parse. Also, if I'm Connor McGregor, I

716
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: understand wanted to get in December, and I don't think

717
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: by the way that Dustin Poier is opposed to that.

718
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: But again, Dana's got his ideas, and they just.

719
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: Well, is this a Dana's ideas thing, Luke, or did

720
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: this go back to that time that Connor wanted to

721
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: come back and fight Frankie Edgar on two hours notice?

722
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: You do? You do have to promote a Connor McGregor fight.

723
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: I mean you want to if you especially if you're

724
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: not potentially going to get an audience here. Not only

725
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: would you want to push Connor out a month if

726
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: you can, for the hope that maybe you could put

727
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: ten thousand into a football stadium. Wouldn't you want time

728
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: excuse me to promote that put the videos out really

729
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: get extra time to bang the drum if you're ESPN,

730
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: which is your pay per view partner. Look, December is

731
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: already a pretty crazy month with football and all that.

732
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: They already told, you know, while they're in Fury three

733
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: to you know, push off, and that's why we got

734
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: an issue if that fight's gonna happen or not at all.

735
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know that the December is the best time,

736
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: Luke for this, agreed.

737
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: And you've also got a lot of collegiate sports. You've

738
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: got NFL in full swing. You got a lot, eh.

739
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: I said football, Luke. When I said football, I meant

740
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: both collegiate sports and NFL. That's football, definitely fair enough.

741
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: So your Saturdays and your Sundays, and if it's paper

742
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry if it's uh, if it's the postseason

743
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: for the NFL, it's also on Saturdays as well. You

744
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: just have a lot of things going on at that point.

745
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: So I understand it. They may all. There's an other

746
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: theory that they already had their budget in for what

747
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: they had expected for the year in terms of content

748
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: and revenue and expenditures, and it was set and blah blah, blah,

749
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: fine whatever. I'm just saying it wouldn't hurt to get

750
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Connor twice in twenty twenty if we was all available.

751
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: But I guess a different issue for a different time. Okay,

752
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: b C. We sort of were there for the twofty

753
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: two wagons for which is tomorrow sneaky, sneaky, sneaky good card.

754
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Here's how the.

755
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: Car main card is loaded, Luke loaded well.

756
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: Even your prelim card has some interesting fights on it.

757
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: Here's why I say that Aaron Pico is headlining the

758
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: prelim portion of the card. He's not even on the

759
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: main card. Now it's a three fight main card. If

760
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: it was four, as it traditionally is, he'd be on it.

761
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: But I'm just pointing out this is a sensational card

762
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: before we even talk about the main card BC. On

763
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: the pre limbs, you have Conrie or Henri Gracie, son

764
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: of Hois, so he's on there. Then you have Gabriel Varga,

765
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: one of the best kickboxers in the history of Canada.

766
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: Certainly he's competing. Carrie Taylor Melendez, the wife of Gilbert Melendez,

767
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: is on the card. Devin Powell, you have c veteran

768
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: is on there and then of course Aaron Pico headlining.

769
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: But the main part of it two fights on the

770
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: right side of the bracket for the Bellatore Featherweight Grand Prix,

771
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: so that will advance and then you have an interesting fight.

772
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: Let's start here Roslav Amasov taking Logan Story Logan Story,

773
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: four time All American out of the University of Minnesota,

774
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: undefeated in beltore welterweight. Amasov has has undefeated and had

775
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: a great run where he even beat ed Ruth, and

776
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: they've still kind of put him on the prelim cards.

777
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: I saw people being like, why are you doing that? Well,

778
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: here he gets a great step up BC. What do

779
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: you make of Amasov versus Story?

780
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: This is a great fight. This is a hardcorese fight

781
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: of two potentially rising guys in Amislav at this moment.

782
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: Did I butcher that Jaroslav Amasov? That's correct?

783
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: I think that's right.

784
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: You know, he's maybe got the bigger wins at this point,

785
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: but get walk to Logan storly if you're not. He's

786
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: a ground and pound machine. Luke same High school in Webster,

787
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: South Dakota as brock Lesner, same university, University of Minnesota,

788
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: four time All American, Luke. He's a six time high

789
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: school wrestling state champion. So what that means is as

790
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: a seventh and eighth grader, he won state titles against

791
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: high school age kids. The guy can and wrastle Luke. Okay,

792
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: he's got you know, he's got a legit sort of

793
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: foundation there, unbeating a belt or unbeaten overall. And I

794
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: think Yama slav Yaroslavama slav Luke. I'm a slob. Okay,

795
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: I'm an absolute slot order ice cream. Yeah, I think uh,

796
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 3: I think the the uh, the Ukrainian fella. Uh Luke.

797
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: He's damn good. And if you don't know, you better

798
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: ask somebody. He trains at att his sparring partners of

799
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: late Austin Vanderford, Jorge mos Vidal and Dustin Poorier not bad,

800
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: not bad to get you ready. And oh, by the way,

801
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: uh storle a Sanford Mma guys. So these are two

802
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 3: guys that could have very bright futures. I love it, Luke.

803
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: I love it when you met there's like showbox style, right.

804
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: I love it when you match him up together, unbeaten

805
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: versus unbeaten. You know, it gives you those old school

806
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: John Jones, Ryan Baderfield's right, You're like, oh my god,

807
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: let's do this thing. I'm not gonna compare their levels

808
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: and abilities to where Bader and Jones was, but you

809
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: get where I'm going with this. This could be a

810
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: nice little fight that goes to the ground a lot

811
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: and we see two men bang, Luke.

812
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: We might see two men bang, although not in the

813
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: way you are weirdly describing. But yes, that was it.

814
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: I stepped into a puddle. I accidentally ended up there, Luke.

815
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: You ever, you know you're crawling around and outside and

816
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: you just put your hand right in a pile of crap. Yeah, sorry, Luke, Sorry.

817
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't know where you're putting your hands these days.

818
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: We see. But here's what I can tell you. I

819
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: agree with your general tenor, which is billatore As. Again,

820
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: the Scott Coker philosophy is not a secret. It is

821
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: signed from the top down. Build from the ground up. Well,

822
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: here's your build from the ground up. They got logan

823
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: story early in his MMA career, and Amslov had been

824
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: pretty experienced, but they were the first one to sort

825
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: of grab him for a major North American based promotion.

826
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: Al though obviously you know Beiltour does a lot of

827
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: worldwide work as well. But you get the idea, and

828
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: they gave these guys fights and gave them fights, and

829
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: they built in they built, and they were quietly doing

830
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: the things that they were doing, and they have turned

831
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: into absolutely sensational talents. Amasov can do it all. He

832
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: can wrestle, he can scramble, he can strike, he's got

833
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: good cardio. He's seen so many different looks from opposition.

834
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: Now Story hasn't quite faced the same level of competition

835
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: that Amasov has, but he's a much better wrestler and

836
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: a much better scrambler and probably about the same level

837
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: or better as an athlete. And so you have these

838
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: interesting contrasts between this wrestling based blue chip prospect and

839
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: this international guy who came out of nowhere but has

840
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 2: totally proven that he's the genuine article. And you're right, man,

841
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: undefeated versus undefeated. If they get a little bit more

842
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: senior in their career, somebody says, hmm, don't get don't

843
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: make this fight because each one's gonna have to fight

844
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: the champion, so don't put him against each other, because

845
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: then you just kill off a contender. But you're getting

846
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: them at just the right moment before that spot where

847
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: now you do have to have undefeated versus undefeated, sensational

848
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: fight for the belter. Honestly, BC, in terms of guys

849
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: again homegrown, you know how much you want to call it,

850
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: but the belts are given their first let's say, major

851
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: recognition with a major promotion for guy of that description.

852
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: This is one of the better fights that billet or

853
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: can make in their entire roster.

854
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: You're damn right, And at seven pm Eastern time, the

855
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: main card Thursday night, CBS Sports Network. Please check out

856
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: the prelims, including Aaron Pico. As you said, I think

857
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: her four to forty five start. I'd have to check that,

858
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: but that's on cbssports dot com. And then, Luke, this

859
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: card tops off with two matchups in the final eight

860
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: here of the Featherweight World Grand Prix. We love the

861
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 3: main event, but get the people fired up for this rematch,

862
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Vachel against Emmanuel Sanchez, the German vitul winning a

863
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: split decision, Luke, but that was four years ago.

864
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: Bro. Emmanuel Sanchez believes he is reborn. He's a guy

865
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: out of Duke Rufus's Jim. He is on a two

866
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: fight winning streak. He did lose to Patricio Frede, so

867
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 2: you know understand that or Patricia which one is this? Actually,

868
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: actually I'm not even sure it'll remember. Yeah, he did

869
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: lose to Patricio Friday a one hundred and forty five pounds,

870
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: but it was a decision, and hey, that's the best

871
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: fighter beltor has ever had. Before that, he had Beaten Strauscalvant,

872
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: Sam Cecilia kar Khanye rematch against him, and then be

873
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: Tywan Claxton in the last two of those he won

874
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: one was decision, but the Taiwan Clackston he won be

875
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: a triangle choke in the second round. Emmanuel Sanchez can

876
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: do everything, except he's not a super hardcore finisher, or

877
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: at least he's not been one historically. The idea is,

878
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: now that he has matured in his talent. He's always

879
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: had an incredible gas tank, great defense, relentless pursuit of

880
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: the fight. Now can he put those together to start

881
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: putting guys away by adding that little extra twist in punishment,

882
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: that little extra twist in positional advancement on the ground.

883
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: It's good. It's fine to be good at everything. Can

884
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: you be lethal at something and that's sort of the

885
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: task that he has been trying to work towards the

886
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 2: goal he's been putting in front of himself. We'll see,

887
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: because Daniel Weischel is a badass, dude. He's a guy

888
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: you know who I think a lot of UFC fans

889
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: may not know because he's been in Baltimore for a

890
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: long time. I've covered visals fights in person. Dude, what

891
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: ask any coach to watch him? Drill, takedowns, hit pads,

892
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: put on a gee whatever. All of them will tell you.

893
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Everything he does is smooth everything. The guy has super

894
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: well rounded skills. So you've got well rounded guy versus

895
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: well rounded guy. And both are trying to reach that

896
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: next stage of their career. Both want to get an

897
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: opportunity to fight the winner of Carvoglio and Pitt Bull,

898
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: who's by the way, the championship belt moves through the tournament,

899
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: so they're gonna get a title shom the winner this

900
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: gets a title shot, right, That's the reality, depending on

901
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: who it's against. And they're trying to just ascend, and

902
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: they have to do it against guys who are almost

903
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: not same mirror images but present in many of the

904
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: same challenges that they present two opponents. You gotta love it.

905
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it raises the stakes. It almost makes this a

906
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: semi final about and not a quarterfinal one, given that

907
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: the winner fights for the title. They did fight four

908
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: years ago. As I mentioned, Sanchez thought he won. He lost. Look,

909
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: he's been saying one and done. We saw him at

910
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 3: the way in this morning. He's saying one round and done.

911
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna knock this guy. And for Vitol, he's never

912
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: lost at this weight class, and he was saying in

913
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: that first fight that essentially he fought at Sanchez's pace.

914
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: He wants to basically fight this one on his terms.

915
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: He's not a guy that you think of as a

916
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 3: knockout threat, but he's gonna be looking for the early

917
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: finish as well. I love when two hungry guys of

918
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: history they come in there. There's a lot of stake.

919
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 3: This is probably the least sexiest of these high level

920
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: tournament matchups on paper, but there's a lot to love

921
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: in this one. It's gonna be a good one.

922
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: And then, lastly, but not leastly, the main event, Patricio

923
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: Frede Pitbull, the best fighter in the history of BELTZ

924
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: or your current champion champ at one hundred and forty

925
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: five and one hundred and fifty five, he puts his

926
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: belt on the line against the upstart in Pedro Carvalio BC.

927
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: You talked about it on the weigh in show that

928
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: we did. A guy who was impressed with Connor McGregor

929
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: to Carl Vallio from Portugal. He speaks portuguesemy's from Portugal.

930
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: In a Brazil. He moves to Ireland to train with

931
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: SPG and in belt or four and oh undefeated since

932
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: he has started with them and looking better and better

933
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: each time.

934
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's six since moving to Ireland and starting

935
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: with SBG, and he had to take two years off

936
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: of his career to get settled, get a full time job,

937
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: get into the gym and end up getting fights. And Luke,

938
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: he's a reborn fighter. He's very aggressive on the microphone,

939
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: really has that. I mean you hear him on the

940
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: mic Luke, you could almost hear a little poor man's McGregor,

941
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: James gallaher sort of swagger in there. And he's been

942
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: talking a lot of junk trying to get in Pippull's head.

943
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: You do have to be careful with that, Luke, you know,

944
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: Chandler tried that and Pipple sent him to hell. And

945
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: here's the interesting part. We already know Pipples the face

946
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: of this franchise, the best fighter in history. Look, he

947
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 3: beat Michael Chandler when they finally fought. He might be Luke.

948
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: Him and Chandler are tied for first with eighteen wins

949
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: in the bellator cage career. A win here for Pitple

950
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: would give him that edge in that statistic. And Luke

951
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: I was looking back at Pippole's last five years thirteen

952
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: and two. The lost to Benson Henderson was because of

953
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: an injury. The other loss with Sir Daniel Strauss for

954
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: the title, which he avenged. He's coming in here full,

955
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 3: full speed ahead, Looke. Does he not get the POUMP

956
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: for pound recognition he deserves because if you've heard a

957
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: pit bull interview, he's cocky. He says, f the palm

958
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: for pound. I'm the best fighter in the world right now.

959
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, even if you look at ESPN's pound for

960
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: pound rakings, which does take into account all organizations, they

961
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: got Demitrius Johnson from one there, I've never seen Pitbull

962
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: in that top ten. Is it at the level now

963
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: where we're overlooking.

964
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Him, Well, that's a bit of a joke. If he's

965
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: not your top ten. I mean, he's clearly extraordinarily talented.

966
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: Everyone is overlooking anytime almost anyone comes from bellot or

967
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: they're overlooked unless there's like a soup or hype job

968
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: around them, like an MVP or something, and then they

969
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: tend to get overrated. Protusio pit Bull if he was

970
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: in the UFC, I mean, I can't tell you how

971
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: exciting that would be for their already phenomenal one hundred

972
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: and forty five pound division. You know what, I favor

973
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 2: him to beat Volkanovski. I don't know, but the fact

974
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: that I would be dying to see it tells you,

975
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, how competitive it actually would be. Now, Carvaglio

976
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: has his work cut out for him. As good as

977
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: he has looked in Belatore, he's a massive underdog in

978
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: terms of the odds, and there's nothing that Patricio will

979
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: see with Carvaglio that he's never seen before. But you know,

980
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: you can't make a whole lot of mistakes against the

981
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: guy this hungry, this young, this improved. This fight was

982
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: spposed to take place in March. Again, going back to

983
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: the Megan Anderson and made a new nest point BC

984
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: and it got delayed until now, so he had all

985
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: that extra time to prepare. So you know, you want

986
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: to like not completely dismiss Carvaglio's chances, but you don't

987
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: want to undersell a guy who is a no accident

988
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: two weight world champion, best fighter in the history of bellatore.

989
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: I suspect he will move on to the next stage

990
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: of the tournament, and that is where I think some

991
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: of the really difficult challenges for him are going to be.

992
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he certainly should. I do like Carvallo's guts. He's

993
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: been talking a lot of junk. You know. Sometimes look,

994
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: you can catch a champ on it if you can

995
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: get him on an off night. Maybe that's his angle.

996
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: But he believes, Luke, I don't know if you agree

997
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: with this. He believes that Pipule has become a safe fighter.

998
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: Now that would have to be the Chandler fight, notwithstanding

999
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: where he knocked him out and won, But around that

1000
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: we've seen Piple go the distance a ton. Luke, he

1001
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: believes there's an opening there to outwork him, So we'll

1002
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: see what happens. Luke. You you poked the damn pitple.

1003
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: Long enough, you're gonna get the horns, Luke, You're gonna

1004
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 3: get the dong. I don't know what what what is wrong?

1005
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: What is what is in this weird knockout energy drink today?

1006
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: Luke?

1007
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

1008
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: It's weird seeing an MMA fighter with no tattoos, isn't it?

1009
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it is, it is, Luke, it is. I

1010
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: don't know any tattoos. No, I have a fear of needles.

1011
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: Why would I Why would I get stuck? Luke? I'm

1012
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: I'm stressed out over a COVID test. I gotta take

1013
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: next week? All right, come on, all right, I have

1014
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: three I have three needles to the damn bag. I

1015
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: ever tell you that story, Luke, don't ever, don't ever

1016
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: get that search.

1017
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: No, you've never told that story before. A wow, I

1018
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: knew an interesting opportunity to.

1019
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: Scard me emotionally.

1020
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: I could tell real quickly on this one. BC. We

1021
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot left for our major stories.

1022
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: Luke Campbell was supposed to fight right Garcia December fifth,

1023
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: December fifth, except he got the rona BC. What can

1024
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: you tell us?

1025
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke Campbell, By the way, best name in the sport.

1026
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: Combining our two names together, Luke Bear might a former

1027
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: Olympic gold medalist. Luke Campbell's right there short of super elite, right.

1028
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 3: He had a good showing against Lomachenko. But the whole

1029
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: point of this fight is to find out who Ryan

1030
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: Garcia really is. If you're an MMA guy and you're

1031
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: not woke to who Ryan Garcia is. Lightning, fast speed

1032
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: and explosion, but a guy who's looked at by his

1033
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: potential opponents as a pretty boy. He's got something like

1034
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: three or four million followers on Instagram. He's impregnating girls

1035
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: all over the state of California and getting baby Mama drama.

1036
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: He's young, brash, exciting, and Ryan Garcia now trains with

1037
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: Canelo and is managed by his team, and he's gotten

1038
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: a lot better since then. So this was going to

1039
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: be that is Ryan Garcia for real. Like you can

1040
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: blow away guys on Canelo undercards who you're supposed to,

1041
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: what about when you're in there with an Olympic hero,

1042
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: a real guy in Luke Campbell. Unfortunately, Luke, it'll have

1043
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: to wait. They're hoping Eddie Hearn says to schedule it

1044
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: as as soon as two weeks to a month after that,

1045
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: which would be nice because December fifth is already a

1046
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: pretty loaded day when you consider we have a UFC card,

1047
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: we've got the Danny Garcia Errol Spence pay per view,

1048
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: So maybe it'll end up being a plus, Luke that

1049
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: we pushed this off a little bit more. But we

1050
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 3: need to see this. You're always gonna hear me talking

1051
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: about those five guys who have next in the sport.

1052
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia is supposed to be one of them, Luke.

1053
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 3: The other four want to fight him because they look

1054
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: at him as the soft, easy, potential payday. But Luke,

1055
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: you've seen Ryan Garcia. When you have lightning. In terms

1056
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: of your speed, speed becomes power, right, His power is

1057
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: his speed. I'm just not ready to count him out

1058
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: against anybody. I want to find out how real he is. Luke.

1059
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: By the way, I have asked to see his dms.

1060
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're sloppy as balls, Luke. All right, if

1061
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: you're shirtless on Instagram singing all day, it's.

1062
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: Better're not sloppy as balls. They might be sloppy as

1063
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: something else. H Yeah, they're probably a show. I mean,

1064
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: have you ever in your life had one day as

1065
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: good as any random day that his DMS are you

1066
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1067
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, Luke, No, I want to

1068
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: know what Prime Thomas is because we've all had that

1069
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 3: one moment pre marriage in our life. I mean, maybe

1070
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: you've had a couple of peaks, but most of us

1071
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: have that one moment, the final build to when you

1072
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: met the wife, right that final climb where you hit mountaintop.

1073
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: Prime single Campbell or Thomas, you know. For me, it

1074
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: was like, it's like summer of two thousand and five.

1075
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: Prime Campbell was ripped up and caught. Oh my god,

1076
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: he was ready for action, satisfaction.

1077
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: Luke.

1078
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 3: When was Prime, Luke Thomas.

1079
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say somewhere around two thousand and eight, two

1080
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, something like that. I had powerlifting then, Luke, Well,

1081
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: I had surgery on my shoulder and I was out

1082
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: for a long time and I had to have to literally,

1083
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, go to physical therapy twice a week for

1084
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: a whole year to get it back to where I was.

1085
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: And I used that as an opportunity. I had just

1086
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: broken up with a girl at the time, uh, and

1087
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: I used that as an opportunity to rebuild physically, to

1088
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 2: get my mind right, to get my finances in order.

1089
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: And when everything was healed, your boy was your boy

1090
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: was cooking out here in the nation's capital. Put it

1091
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: that way.

1092
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: Look, the problem for I don't know where where life

1093
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: was in eight when you were prime. I was prime

1094
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: right before the the app pandemic, when when all you

1095
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: had to do, Luke was swiping bank, swiping bang and

1096
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: you know this, it was we were too early.

1097
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I missed. I never I never did the

1098
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: you know, match dot com or it was it got

1099
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: bumble or uh you what's it? It's uh, what's the other?

1100
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: What's the major one? That's that's your that's your app.

1101
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: It's a fine app, but it's not mine.

1102
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: It's oh jd j j.

1103
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: J JD. I had a friend used j it was

1104
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: a good buddy of mine. Uh uh no, No, no,

1105
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: another one. Uh no, what's the what's the major app?

1106
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: It's not it's not Grinder, it's the Harmony. No, it's

1107
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: the app, asked wipe. That's a company that predated the app.

1108
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: Christian Mingle, Luke, where are we going?

1109
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: What is the app called? What's the famous app called?

1110
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know famous Dating Google.

1111
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 3: Huh famous app?

1112
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Yes?

1113
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: Please?

1114
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: Can we get through the show tender Tinder, I think

1115
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: is what it is? Tender. I missed all of that.

1116
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: I've never ever even been on the site, nothing or

1117
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: the app, all of that. Let's hook up over that

1118
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: ship that I missed that window completely, basically, so in.

1119
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: The old fashioned hitters in the news cycle to get

1120
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: to okay, speaking right, can we get into this one?

1121
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: Yes, very quickly. Speaking of hog which Brian, Brian told

1122
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: me if I died, he was going to take over

1123
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: mm A dissected and call it dick sected, and all

1124
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 2: it would do is just judge and guess the size

1125
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: of men's hogs. Which is you need serious fucking help,

1126
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: all right? Anyway, Mike hes I said that you can't

1127
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: prove it. Maybe I'm lying, maybe I'm not well. If

1128
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: the listeners decide, Mike Tyson basically admitted for a drug

1129
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: test during his career BC that he used the old

1130
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: wizinator and child's urine his own children. I believe to

1131
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: get past the drug test.

1132
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 3: Your reaction, so I didn't know that this was known

1133
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: that in one of his autobiographies he had told the story.

1134
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: But he just told it on his Get High podcast.

1135
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: I don't know the name of it, but uh, Lucy

1136
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: was pretty hilarious if you read the quotes that he

1137
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: was not only using the fake Yeah, hot boxing, Thank you,

1138
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: Gaff hot Boxing with Mike Tyston. He actually had Jeff

1139
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: Novitsky on there and he was talking about Luke. They

1140
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: were talking about that when you have the fake dong,

1141
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: make sure it's the right color, because Novitsky was saying

1142
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: some NFL guys who were dark skin had light skinned

1143
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 3: dong fake dongs. But he'd fill it with baby's urine,

1144
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: and for a while he was filling it with his

1145
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: wife's urine until she said, hey, honey, be careful or

1146
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: they'll they'll pop you for being pregnant. Luke, this is

1147
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: just wild stuff. I gotta ask you, because they didn't

1148
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: get into it. What was he masking. Do you think

1149
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: it was just like coke and ecstasy or do you

1150
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 3: think it was the damn the damn Royds.

1151
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Luke, Here's what I'll tell you. Whenever you think you know.

1152
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: I would never say what it is because I don't

1153
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: have any evidence for those claims. But what I can

1154
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: say is anybody you think, oh like there's no way

1155
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: they could use or you're like, oh, maybe they use,

1156
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: but whatever, it's always worse than whatever you imagine it

1157
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: to be. So whatever you're imagining it to be, it's

1158
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: a thousand times worse. I'll put it that.

1159
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: Way, all right. More quick hitters Lucas not on our list,

1160
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 3: but real quick. Mike Coppinger of The Athletic is reporting

1161
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: that these Canelo Caleb Plant talks for Canelo's first one

1162
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: off with a you know, wherever he wants to go

1163
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: might be off because Plant needs more time to get ready.

1164
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: Caleb Plant jumped on a live Instagram last night's shirtless

1165
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: from his hot tub and was like, you know, don't

1166
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: believe the hype. I'm ready tonight, So we'll see where

1167
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: that goes. I don't know who Canelo is gonna fight,

1168
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 3: but he seems determined to fight in December. The other

1169
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: boxing bs of the week is the WBC has created

1170
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: a bridgerweight division between cruiserweight and heavyweight with a limit

1171
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: of two twenty four. Luke, this is why we can't

1172
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: have nice things now. Just let me get one nice

1173
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: thing out of the way. They named it after that

1174
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: kid Bridger who saved his his sister from the what

1175
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: the dog attack or the raccoon Attack? I forgot the story.

1176
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: Nice, nice story.

1177
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: Hey, WBCWBA, stop killing this sport already. We don't need

1178
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: a freaking Nobody wants to be the bridgerweight champion. There's

1179
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: not one person. I get that. There's some heavyweights who

1180
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: are small, and that Joe Lewis and Rocky Marciano used

1181
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: to weigh two hundred and nineteen pounds and freaking Tyson

1182
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: Fury and Joshua and those guys weigh two seventy five.

1183
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: That's the deal. Okay, that's the damn deal. Why don't

1184
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: you up the cruiserweight limit if you have to. We

1185
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: don't want your bridgerweight bullshit. Get it out of here.

1186
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: Stop that. Any network writer fighter that ever supports this

1187
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: or puts it on you're dead.

1188
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: To me, dude. Why can't if you're gonna name it,

1189
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: remember when they had that naming contest for that yacht

1190
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: and the people called it body mcboat face. You know

1191
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: that was the one that won. We should have a

1192
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 2: contest and like the only names you could pick would

1193
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: be like pornographic names like the Roco Safreddi Belt or

1194
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: the Lexdian Paler belt or you know something like that

1195
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: right where you're just totally it's like the five dollars

1196
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: foot long belt, but or you know whatever, some kind

1197
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: of reference that makes me like, yeah, I want to

1198
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: put on this belt. You know what this belt means.

1199
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: It means my DMS or a show, that's what it means.

1200
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: You gotta name it after a sweet little kid that

1201
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: saved his sister. I mean, it's a nice story, but

1202
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to wear that belt. I want to

1203
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: wear the belt that says, you know, you know, ladies,

1204
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: make sure you're doing yoga before we go on a

1205
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: date or something.

1206
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: Watch a ladies make a toilet. Yes you want that belt?

1207
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: I got you. I got you. Luke, Hey, Luke, are

1208
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: you into this idea? That? Excuse me? PFL champion Kayla Harrison,

1209
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: knowing that the PFL season doesn't start up again until

1210
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: next April on ESPN, is gonna fight this month on

1211
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: a Victa in Victa FC forty three in the Cole

1212
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 3: main event. Luke, how do we respond to this? Here's good,

1213
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: this is my thing.

1214
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: It's like, do I think that this is fine? Yes,

1215
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: stay busy, get a fight. I understand why the PFL

1216
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: did what they did. They're they're trying to preserve their

1217
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: best business interests and they want to wait until there

1218
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: was a better situation so that they thought would would

1219
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: be a better situation before they brought their season back. Okay, fine,

1220
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: maybe they maybe they miscalculated a little bit, but I

1221
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: understand what they were trying to do. And so you

1222
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: want to keep some of your other talent busy, let

1223
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: them fight in other places. She's not the only one

1224
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: they let. They've let do this, But they're also I

1225
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: think either they're being sued or they've been threatened to

1226
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: be sued by a series of other fighters. Lance Palmer included,

1227
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: who's one of their you know, multiple time champions, saying like, Hey,

1228
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: I need to get out there and make a living

1229
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: as well, and you're preventing me from doing it. So

1230
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: what I don't understand, BC is I've gotten no problem

1231
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: with this, but why aren't you doing that for everyone

1232
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: who wants to make a That's the part I don't get.

1233
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, kill me here, Luke, I'm not really

1234
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: in anymore to PFL or one championship. I'm I just

1235
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: don't care. Is that wrong?

1236
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 2: Well, I would say this PFL I could take or leave.

1237
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't do anything for me or does anything against me.

1238
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: One is a weird situation because it's run by a

1239
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: guy who makes what appears to be and this is

1240
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: my opinion, a series of either false or totally exaggerated

1241
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: claims about everything they do, including but not limited to viewership.

1242
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: But the thing I'll give one credit for is not

1243
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: the weight cutting, which again they've never proven that they've

1244
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: actually solved the problem. Whatsoever is their different rule set.

1245
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: They'll have kickboxing in a ring with MMA gloves, they

1246
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: allow certain strikes to a downed opponent, they don't they

1247
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: judge a fight as a whole versus the ten to

1248
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: nine must system. And I think some of those things

1249
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: genuinely make their product different and a little bit better

1250
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: in certain ways. So I'll give them a bit of

1251
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: a as much as I think that, you know, they

1252
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: had this bizarre leadership and the claims around them you

1253
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: should not trust at all, But the product itself, at

1254
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: least is different enough to be noteworthy.

1255
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 3: All right, Would you buy a used car from Chawtry?

1256
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's nothing. There's never gonna be money

1257
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: exchanging hands. Let me tell you some I reached out

1258
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: to Chatry's people for an interview for a long time,

1259
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: and the dude who was the PR guy there no

1260
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: longer works for them. They gave me an excuse about

1261
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: him traveling every week because I want to ask him

1262
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: about his anti doping program and his weight cutting program,

1263
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: and they gave me the run around for months about

1264
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: trying to do an interview. Meanwhile, I would see him

1265
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, maybe maybe my show is

1266
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: not big enough. Maybe he only wants to go on

1267
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: big enough shows. And then he would appear during that

1268
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Speaker 2: time on these like rinky Dink podcasts you never heard

1269
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 2: of that had significantly smaller audiences, which I'm I'm mad

1270
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: at those podcasts. For hey man, do the interviews you

1271
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: can get, But you know why didn't he do them?

1272
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: You'd have to ask him. But to me, it was

1273
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: pretty clear from what I could tell, again my opinion,

1274
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: he was looking to not get asked tough questions. So

1275
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Speaker 2: that tells you a lot about where they're at.

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, pound some of that Singaporean sand All Right, we

1277
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: got a guy gotta get out here, so let's roll through.

1278
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: It's SJW time, hittographics. Let's do it. Social Justice Wednesdays.

1279
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: This is where we bring in the honorable Luke bader

1280
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: Ginsburg to weigh in on the injustice going on back

1281
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: and forth between fighters Darren Till versus Mike Perry is

1282
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: back on Luke. Here we go, Perry quote quote tweets

1283
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 3: ESPN MMA, So Darren Till, pussy out, shake my head.

1284
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: Everybody seems to have a sore couchee been shoving them

1285
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: Raw Dog beers directly up here as should I keep

1286
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: breathing this? Look, yeah, I'm gonna stop reading it. It

1287
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 3: gets very dirty there.

1288
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: So as we know, Darren, listen, how do what sport

1289
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: have we devoted our lives to?

1290
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 3: This is who is Till is supposed to fight.

1291
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: Luke Till was supposed to fight Hermanson.

1292
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. It was a good fight, but he

1293
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: pulled out with an injury to it. He says, this

1294
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 3: is Darren Till. Now know the truth is I actually

1295
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: pulled out because I'm making so much effing money off

1296
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 3: Raw Dog, so I thought I'd sit this end of

1297
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: the year out and count the cash. Good luck against them,

1298
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 3: though Mike Perry comes back later. Quote in Europe, apparently

1299
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: they praise you for pulling out of fights and being inactive.

1300
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: And then we have a closer here from Perry for

1301
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: good measure. When I parked my girl's car, I push

1302
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: it out in neutral because I don't back out at nothing.

1303
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: Just wow, Just like Senior Luke at William and Mary,

1304
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: that guy is uh yeah, Luke, Do we have a

1305
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: winner here or do all of us win for being

1306
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 3: witnessed to this?

1307
01:01:53,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: No? Everyone loses here, You me, everybody? What what you know?

1308
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: There are times BC where I'm like, Wow, what could

1309
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: I do to make my dad proud? And then I

1310
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: look at this segment, I'm like nothing. The answer is nothing,

1311
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: And I now totally understand his disdain for me.

1312
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: All right, our number two matchup is Tayo Femo Lopez

1313
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: versus the world. Luke, it's a great time to be

1314
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: the undisputed twenty three year old, unbeaten lightweight champion. He's

1315
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: sending everyone to hell. In a recent interview, Lopez basically

1316
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 3: told Deontay Wilder stop making excuses, stop being a bitch,

1317
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: and then Leonard ellerby CEO of Mayweather Promotions, came out

1318
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: and said, wow, this ain't it. In my opinion, cats

1319
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: are too comfortable. We got more from LERB saying, now

1320
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 3: everybody tough. Now he not in no promo with that man,

1321
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: and he's not fighting him. Okay to disagree, Tayo Femo

1322
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: comes out with KO one here, Luke, stop being a

1323
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: bitch too.

1324
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: He forgot a letter.

1325
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 3: He forgot a letter, but yes, okay, So then Luke,

1326
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 3: last Saturday, Devin Haney, potential future arrival here for Tayo

1327
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: Femo came out. You know he had that somewhat boring

1328
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: went over Eur yorkis gamboa.

1329
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,959
Speaker 2: Oh notice the photoshop on the belt there BC.

1330
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: Yes, Tayo Femo tweets out a picture of Hane saying

1331
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: the email champion performance because Haney's got a bastardized version

1332
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: of the franchise WBC title that that supposedly Lopez won

1333
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: from Wimachenko. You know, it's boxing, it's bullshit. And then Luke,

1334
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: we had Tayo Femo this week on Morning Combat and

1335
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 3: he came at hany one more time man, everybody else

1336
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: here we go.

1337
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: One thirty five.

1338
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you have the likes of these guys and

1339
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm the king of it all. So I think, honestly,

1340
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 4: is just what can they bring to the table. I

1341
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: think definitely whose last on my list, Brian is Devin

1342
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 4: Hainey Deva Haney. Poor performance from him. If I fight

1343
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: Devin Haney correct and for the WBC belt whatever whatever

1344
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: his email championship belt, and I fight for that beat,

1345
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 4: I beat him right, clearly beat him and everything.

1346
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: In fact, probably knock his ass out. What have these

1347
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: cats really have brought to the table though?

1348
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 4: We talk about Santa Cruz with Tank Davis, but it's

1349
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 4: not really much to the table to bring that to

1350
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: be mentioned as a powerful panel list. They try to

1351
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: put him on the powerful pedal list.

1352
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: Hell no, you have.

1353
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 4: A lot more to do, my dude. You gotta fight bigger,

1354
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: better opposition. They cannot overprice themselves. Think you're not money Mayweather.

1355
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: You will never be money Mayweather unless you fight oppositions

1356
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 4: and let your ego go. Same implies for Devin Aighty,

1357
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: same implies for Ryan Garcia. These guys are trying to

1358
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 4: be money Mayweather. You're not money may Yet. You have

1359
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: to be pretty boy.

1360
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: You have to work your way up.

1361
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 4: But I am going to be the A side see

1362
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: And that's where that's the problem.

1363
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: Though.

1364
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 4: If Florida is saying that Tank will have to be

1365
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 4: the A side to fight me.

1366
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: He's fucking crazy.

1367
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 4: He's crazy, He's fucking crazy. It's not gonna happen. Tank

1368
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: doesn't bring nothing to the table more than just an

1369
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 4: opponent that I could beat the shit out of. Sorry

1370
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 4: for my language, and that's about it.

1371
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: Uh luke. He basically says, if you're a young fighter

1372
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: you want to fight him, you need to take a

1373
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: pay cut and you ain't gonna be the B side.

1374
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: Does this mean we never see him and Dravante?

1375
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 2: I think the chances are pretty good of him and

1376
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: Dravante because I think Tayo Femo is the best one

1377
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: thirty fiver and Dravante is the biggest attraction. But the

1378
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: Hainy fight is the one i'd actually rather see more

1379
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: because they seem to naturally hate each other a bit more.

1380
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: But I don't think we're gonna get that because there's

1381
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: no real incentive to make it, at least not anytime soon.

1382
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: I just gotta say I love Tayo Femo. I don't

1383
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: agree with everything he's saying there business wise about I

1384
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: have to be the A side. Look, that's why we

1385
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 3: don't end up getting the fights. If both guys feel

1386
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: like they have to be the A side at some

1387
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: point both have to come together. But I do like

1388
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: a cock. Sure, twenty three year old Luke's just gonna

1389
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 3: drop bombs on anybody. I'm here for that, all right, Luke.

1390
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: We close each week on Wednesday, pulling it from the

1391
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit? It's fans submission time, blah

1392
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah.

1393
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: You can read the combat at gmail dot com.

1394
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: All right, Luke. Let's start out from Dom Spiller on Instagram.

1395
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: He says, the good thing about getting out of work

1396
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: at the same time morning combat starts is I can

1397
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: crack a cold one while watching him. Would you drink

1398
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: that loose juice hazyipa that Dom's got right there?

1399
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the art, you know, I'd give it

1400
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: a shot. And by the way, why is he drinking

1401
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: at eleven am? Where does he work?

1402
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what country he's in, Luke, Or maybe

1403
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: he works the graveyard shift. Maybe he embalms dead bodies

1404
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: and dresses him up for the funerals. Luke, It's possible.

1405
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: You never know. We have weird fans. But shout out

1406
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: to that fella. Hey, Luke, let's shout out to Larry Hophan.

1407
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 3: He's at El Hophan eighty eight on Instagram. He went

1408
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: broke trying to pay for his honeymoon, Luke, but he

1409
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: had enough cash to buy that green MK shirt. Luke,

1410
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: he looks pretty handsome in it.

1411
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: Look at this fucking heterosexual right here out there, just

1412
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: cock of the walking everywhere he goes. God, bless you, sir.

1413
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: You're a fantastic American.

1414
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 3: Thank you. Larry.

1415
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: He must be if he has an MK shirt.

1416
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: Hey, he got married, I mean he's getting laid Uke.

1417
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 3: Shout out to Larry Hoppan right there. Let's go over

1418
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: from c rkn who's at the krackcon. Here's some m

1419
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: k R Luke from Captain Phillips of when Room Service

1420
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: Diaries get real.

1421
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: Luke, that's great.

1422
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: I am the captain of this ship. Now, thank you.

1423
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you don't look very much like a

1424
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: man from Mogadishu, but you know, appearances can be deceiving.

1425
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 3: Thank you. Hey. A frequent in these parts is Scott

1426
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: Rizzo at Scott Underscore m Underscore Rizzo on Instagram. Luke,

1427
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 3: he has my tyson reimagined with the eye chat.

1428
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: How hard would it be? To convince him to get

1429
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: a face tattoo of that.

1430
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 3: Not that hard, I think, probably not that hard. Yeah,

1431
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: I'm down with this picture all the way. Let's go

1432
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: over to from Goody Mma, which is at Film Junkie PhD. Luke,

1433
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 3: I love this shit, he says, whether he likes it

1434
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: or not. Luke Thomas has been forever imprinted on our

1435
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 3: family via this family blanket, which consists, Luke of what

1436
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: all your T shirts? What's going on here?

1437
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: Though? Look at the baby's right foot and then look

1438
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: to the one to the side of it where it

1439
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: says WU. The guy who does my artwork did a

1440
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: mashup of me saying WU with Rick Flair's hair. Great,

1441
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: and so they actually have that T shirt there.

1442
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: And so he made a rug for his daughter out

1443
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 3: of his T shirts. That's fantastic, Luke, very sweet, cool.

1444
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 3: Hope his daughter drops a due drops a deuce right

1445
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: on top of that, all right, Luke. Let's go from

1446
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 3: at eight bit Imaginations on Instagram. He made a nice

1447
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 3: comic book cover celebrating the many misadventures of Morning Combat

1448
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: with Dino and Soup. Luke, you like that?

1449
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: That is amazing. Yeah, they used to call me Dino

1450
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: for a time. The white hair. It's killing me and

1451
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: you look like one of those things out of a

1452
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: rising promotion or something.

1453
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: But it works at the bottom. It says MK all day,

1454
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: nearly every day. Indeed, Hey, let's go with this guy

1455
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 3: at Dickles d I k U l Z Luke. He's

1456
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: coming for web Screams, Crown. Check out this Ultimate Fighter

1457
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: tip to tip poster.

1458
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: Luke, you like this the tip off. That's scary.

1459
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's frightening. Yeah that I've put that up on

1460
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: the wall. Seriously, I gotta start printing out all these

1461
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: web screams. And Dickles Dickles is back with another one, Luke.

1462
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: Here's a big Lebowski inspired MK poster.

1463
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: That is so good.

1464
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 3: Look, I'm the dude in this one, right, shut the

1465
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: f up, J You're out of your element.

1466
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm John Goodman. But you know what I can't hate?

1467
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: That is amazing? Wow, so good.

1468
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: All right, We've got one more from Day Goals that

1469
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 3: our staff, Luke, have not shown you or I and

1470
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 3: they're saying this one is fan frig fantastic. Here we go.

1471
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: And I didn't have the opportunity to really, I was

1472
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: just so engrossed in the nime world. I'd missed a

1473
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: lot of time, and I remember I was catching up

1474
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: with my co host for the show I do on Showtime,

1475
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: wanting combat, and my colos, my coss.

1476
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 5: Around me are familiar faces, worn out places, worn out faces,

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Speaker 5: bright and early for the daily races, going nowhere, going nowhere.

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Speaker 5: The tears are filling up theres no expression, no expression.

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Speaker 3: Well, Luke, I didn't hear that, but I still got

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Speaker 3: the gist of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh fuck, yeah, your nickname is no longer soup, it's

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Speaker 2: co host.

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Speaker 3: That is, yes, it is. He got the that weird moment.

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Speaker 3: So I do have a sort of tick when I'm

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Speaker 3: chewing or drinking, Luke. Sometimes I've got a a wandering

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Speaker 3: eye that will go up. And when I took the

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Speaker 3: first sweet taste of that of that what were we

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Speaker 3: drinking there?

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Speaker 2: That will you look like the dude from Big Trouble

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Speaker 2: in Little China who has all the potions, like the

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Speaker 2: old Chinese guy.

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Speaker 3: And in that moment, the disgusting filth of that taste

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Speaker 3: just made my eye go whoa. So he did capture

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Speaker 3: that beautifully, Luke. Shout out to us.

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Speaker 2: Send me if Mikey is watching our other producer from CBS.

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Speaker 2: Send me all these assets because I gotta repost some

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Speaker 2: of these. That is that is an amazing piece, an

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Speaker 2: amazing piece.

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Speaker 3: All right, Luke, can you take us out of here solo?

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Speaker 3: I gotta log off and jack off and get our

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Speaker 3: da on the horn.

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Speaker 2: All right, Yes, let's do that, all right, So give

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Speaker 2: the video a thumbs up. Hit that subscribe button to

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Speaker 2: give us a fan submission or anything for dead wrong,

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Speaker 2: which we will do on Friday. Morning Coombat at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com. That is the email for this and everything else.

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Speaker 2: You can see all of the social down there below.

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Speaker 2: They flashed it for a second, but you know morning

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Speaker 2: Combat on Instagram, on Twitter, on YouTube YouTube dot com

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Speaker 2: slash morning Combat. By the way, you have a vanity

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Speaker 2: store dot show dot com for any of our good

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Speaker 2: stuff For co host. My name is Luke Thomas. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to everyone at Showtime and Malca. Until next time, May

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Speaker 2: all of your gains be loyal