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Speaker 1: Now did you get things started? Here's the host of

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Thursday, J P. Shadrick. We're often running a training

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Speaker 1: camp edition of Jaguars Thursday, a new time for Jaguars Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and a new co host. Tony Basselli joins us for

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Speaker 1: the first time in months. Unbelievable. What's the new here?

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Speaker 1: That actually is? It really is. No, it's good to

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Speaker 1: see you. I was with you in London. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I'm talking like like here, not just

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Speaker 1: like over the phone or you know, chatting via some

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Speaker 1: other communication avenue. I mean the guys like Ben, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's today, he's telling he's been Barcelona, Italy really caprio.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, it must be good

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Speaker 1: to be Basselli. It must be. I want to be

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Speaker 1: Tony when I grow up one day. He's making me

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Speaker 1: jealous though, that uh Barcelona you said was just unbelievable. Now,

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Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure this out in off

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Speaker 1: teal Antonio this earlier, and this is totally We got dragon.

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Speaker 1: We got plenty of time, We had plenty but the

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Speaker 1: just it was camp. But it wasn't like a camp

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Speaker 1: starts on t A Okay, so uh. When I when

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Speaker 1: over to NFL Europe to broadcast the game for Fox,

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Speaker 1: which had the contract at the time. The head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Barcelona Dragons was a I believe it was

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Speaker 1: the former head coach of the Boston College Eagles. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remember his name, but he he coached.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can remember he coached at Boston College forever

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Speaker 1: and was and had good success. So anyway, he was

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Speaker 1: in retirement. He had retired from coaching college football and

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Speaker 1: was given the opportunity to coach the Barcelona Dragons. And

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Speaker 1: he made a deal with him said that if you

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Speaker 1: provide me with housing on the beach in Barcelona, said,

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Speaker 1: I'll be the coach. Okay, I'll say this right now

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Speaker 1: if they have another World League. But seriously, Jack mcnell

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Speaker 1: was like that. He literally coached the Barcelona Dragons for

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Speaker 1: every year that NFL Europe was in existence, and he

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Speaker 1: had he had his little you know, penthouse, sweet and

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Speaker 1: Barcelona on the beach, and he wasn't leaving. Pretty nice,

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Speaker 1: pretty good deal. Well, summertimes over, at least the summer

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Speaker 1: break time is over. Summers getting heated up outside on

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Speaker 1: the practice fields at the Dream Finders Homes Practice Complex

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Speaker 1: training camp started today. Uh. You know, as you said, guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like you know, the first padded practice.

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Speaker 1: It's an o T A day basically is what it

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Speaker 1: was today. A lot of guys tramping up, a lot

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Speaker 1: the day. Wasn't the bright, sunny, hot day. It was

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Speaker 1: still pretty warm and the first even saying it's the

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Speaker 1: very nice. It was not hot at all. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: It really wasn't hot. It was a cool day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for this compared to what it could be, very safe.

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Speaker 1: As I am, I sat out in the Ian sweat.

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Speaker 1: You said, it not us, by the way, Well you're

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Speaker 1: fat all the time now. It was. That was pretty

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Speaker 1: mild day, JP and uh. And I was kind of

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Speaker 1: surprised and not surprised though, because I mean, none of

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote name players, you know, I was sitting there.

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Speaker 1: None of them that that I saw were like sucking

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Speaker 1: was some guys that made you go, Okay, let me,

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Speaker 1: look at my roster, said number, you know, twenty eight

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Speaker 1: this practice and you didn't know who he was. There

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Speaker 1: first day. But the other thing too that I will

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Speaker 1: say this, you can't simulate the training camp no matter

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Speaker 1: where you train or how hard you train. No, that's

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Speaker 1: the truth. You just can't because the pace picks up

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Speaker 1: and wait to get pads on then and and it's competitive,

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Speaker 1: as the anxiety, the stress. But then also the competition

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Speaker 1: because you know what JP of me at the three

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Speaker 1: of us and as fatting out of shape as that

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Speaker 1: you know, three of us might be, well, we're still

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Speaker 1: there's no okay trophy for the guy that wins, you'r

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Speaker 1: you still compete. And Gonquay competes against Dante Fowler when

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Speaker 1: Dante's practicing okay, Malik Jackson is competing with Marcel Darius

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Speaker 1: Tavi Brian because in Clayson's mine, he's gonna go that

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And still the competition is there,

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Speaker 1: and that makes the energy level and I think the

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Speaker 1: I don't think Clay is worried about I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay, right, but everything else he said, everything

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Speaker 1: else he said, okay, I agree with that was stretch.

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Speaker 1: not that they're out there twice a day, but they

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's like easy though, call it two

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Speaker 1: My eyes were getting tired watching it. But you were

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Speaker 1: talking about how many breaks they get too, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I he was actually uh, because Tony and I both

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Speaker 1: send the players over to an area that's got a roof,

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Speaker 1: and it's got fans, and it's got what they call

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Speaker 1: And then also if you had to run a hundred

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Speaker 1: pass on it. Good crowd today Opening day it was

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Speaker 1: that it's hard. I don't put words as grueling or

425
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Speaker 1: grinding because you know, obviously a lot of us that

426
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: played before been through uh tougher situations, and you know,

427
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Speaker 1: I think I think the players understand. I think the

428
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: ones that have been here, you know, can kind of

429
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: understand what it's gonna be and um, but they understand

430
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: why that's that's the most important thing. I think people

431
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: get into what's tough, what's this what you're trying to do.

432
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was trying to shock a team

433
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: or do something different. It's just my philosophy of of

434
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: really what I believe that you need to do to

435
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: get ready to play this game and play it out

436
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: of level, and we want to be able to play

437
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: it at the highest level we can. There's your head coach,

438
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: Doug Morone. That was actually yesterday. I'm reporting that we're playing.

439
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: We're playing old audio. Can't get fresh stuff on the

440
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: first show we've had so yesterday. So I don't know.

441
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm just glad you're here, Tony. I'm just glad you're here.

442
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: And we're gonna here directly from him here and about

443
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: the Doug Moron shoween debut. So that's coming up. We'll

444
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: hear from the horse's mouth coming up. Are you saying

445
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: that dugs a horse? Maybe I just said that the

446
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: way I said that he's a big fella. He's called

447
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: that coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars a horse. Well, he'll

448
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: be here at five o'clock for the Doug Moron Show.

449
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: It's okay. I don't mind camp battles this year. You know,

450
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it is a different feeling around here because

451
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: a lot of the defense is solidified. You know who

452
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: the starters are most of those spots, all right, I

453
00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: mean for the most part offense defense, strong side linebacker,

454
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: it's strong side linebacker, nickelback. Yeah. But here's so I

455
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: was referring to. I've heard there was an article I

456
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: can't remember what publication was, and uh that was basically

457
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: listening like the top the biggest storylines of camp battles

458
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: and uh, it was like the top hundred or top

459
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: fifty whatever, it was some number. And the interesting thing

460
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars there was zero. There is no interesting

461
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: thing because it's a it's a it's a set if

462
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: you think about it. I mean, we have to like

463
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: search for like the major camp battles, like strong sadliner,

464
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: like receivers. It's not even the receiver, it's who's the

465
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: last receiver to make the death? Who's the nickel? I mean?

466
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: But I think also, I mean part of part of

467
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: it toil like the defense, you know, to look at

468
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: them specifically, because I mean, that's that's the focal point

469
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: when most people on the outside talk about this team.

470
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: The nickelback. I don't want to say it's a huge deal,

471
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: but it kind of is. I mean, I mean, how

472
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: many how many percentage of the snaps doesn't does nickel play?

473
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's so I mean essentially that's a starter.

474
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: You know who's gonna be that nickel. I mean, that's

475
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: a real that's a real thing. But I think the

476
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: difference is if you went into last year's camp and

477
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: we talked about the battles quarterback, right, yeah, that really

478
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: wasn't a battle. It was a major storyline. It was

479
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: a storyline, major storyline. We only really knew too, of

480
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: the five offensive line positions Lender and Parnell. Yeah, that's right.

481
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: You didn't know the left hack of Brandon Albert remember

482
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: that this time we weren't. But you didn't know where.

483
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: And then you know, you didn't know who the left

484
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: garbs would be. You thought the right guard would be

485
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: a j but it was not. It wasn't guaranteed Um

486
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: running back. You figure was Leonard for that because he's

487
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: the top pick wide receiver. You had all kinds of

488
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't have me. I mean, yeah, they

489
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: rob but after that you were like, oh my gosh,

490
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a phenomenal year. It was just it

491
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: was interesting. And you know, you had the whole storyline

492
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: of Miles and puzz you know that transition. That was

493
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: a train wreck, by the way, So it's just train

494
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: wreck where you come into because that was that was

495
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: a train wreck. I mean, the the whole the coaching

496
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: staff making the switch of pazz Lesni going to Sam

497
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: and Miles Jack going to the mike. That was a

498
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: train wreck. And fortunately they they train back on the

499
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: track and realized that and then they corrected it before

500
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: it was too late. Yeah, but that was a train wreck.

501
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about. It was a team that was

502
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: very unstable last year, especially on the offenside of the ball,

503
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: and now it's a team now you look around, you're like,

504
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: you know what we're talking with the nickel corner. That's

505
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: pretty good. But you know, here's the best thing. The

506
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: thing is though, and it was a team that was

507
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: two minutes away from the super Bowl last year and

508
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: now everyone's talking about they're gonna be right back there.

509
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: And if you're not careful, playoffs, I mean, that's how

510
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: that works. So you can't whatever the story is right

511
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: now means very little because there was nobody, and I

512
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: mean nobody outside of Malik Jackson who thought this team

513
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: was going to the Hold on, we're gonna We're gonna

514
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: do this. This is God's honest truth here. Okay, before

515
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: training camp opened, your predictions on number of wins last year,

516
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: Before training camp opened, I thought there would be a

517
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: six or seven win. It was like between six and eight.

518
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Was kind of before training camp opened, six or seven,

519
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: then training camp like seven? No, hold on, you like

520
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: you were like seven or eight training That's my point. Okay,

521
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: we all started before training camp, okay, that this team

522
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: was gonna eight eight wins. We're kind of all right

523
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: in the five hundred mis Okay, I thought you meant

524
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: once camp started, I was. I started working down to

525
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: the six and five, and then by the time the

526
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: camp up was over, you were full. You were like four. Well,

527
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: because you remember, Jeff, we were sitting there during the

528
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: preseason games them, I was like maybe five. Because if

529
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: you remember preseason, you're looking at a team that had

530
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: no quarterback, couldn't run the ball, I mean literally couldn't.

531
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Defense was getting gas, the secondary wasn't on the field

532
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: or and the defense was getting gash Remember they're getting

533
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: run against it. It was like, and I remember sitting

534
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: there during the games, You're like, good, I mean we

535
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know I picked us us

536
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: to beat Houston, but that was with my heart and

537
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: not my head because I really wanted us to win.

538
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: But I don't think any of us thought we were

539
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: going to Houston win that game. They're not having ten

540
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: sacks and you know, getting starting quarterback bench and just

541
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson comes in late. I mean really, I mean,

542
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, so a lot of people because to show you,

543
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be careful either way. Well, here's

544
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the thing. You can be an expert quote unquote what

545
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: we are, you know, but I mean sometimes it's a crazy,

546
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: crazy business. Last year and what Tony was talking about earlier,

547
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: this team better watch it, you know, because you know,

548
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, some bad things can

549
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: sneak up on this football team. Take a look at

550
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: the Giants last year, loving and five coming in hot

551
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: ride and high, one of the favorites in the NFC,

552
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: one of the best defense in the NFC, right veteran

553
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: quarterback and Eli man, he just don't head coach. You

554
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: know who's quote unquote bringing the Giants back, you know,

555
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: and where did that get him? And the other thing is,

556
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: I remember last year because you always we'll do it

557
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: this year again. At some point, you know, we go

558
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: through the UH schedule, we do we do? We do

559
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: with Pete because you know, Pete did the whole season.

560
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: If you read that games he picks every game for

561
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the whole year, and he has us going thirty and

562
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: three and then yeah, anyways, I remember last year the

563
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: conversation amongst all of us and a lot of the fans,

564
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, we should win at least

565
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: four because the Rams are terrible, the forty Niners are terrible,

566
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: the Jets are table, and the Browns are terrible. You know.

567
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: The funny thing about that we lost three of those

568
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: four games, But that's what I mean. That was the

569
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: conversation going in, like, oh, the Rams are terrible, we'll

570
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: beat them. Niners are awful, the Jets everyone said was

571
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna go in sixteen Todd both did a great job,

572
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: and the Browns were terrible. Would they end up being terrible?

573
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: We won one of those terrible and so that's what

574
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: you can't it's so it's a crapshoot. I mean, you

575
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: can't get as you wonder, you wonder because every year

576
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: injuries there there's are hot there's teams that get hot,

577
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: and there's teams that that are not. Who will be

578
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: the teams that are not this year? And who will

579
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: be the teams that are, you know, because every year

580
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: there's usually three or four okay that that you did

581
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: expect to do well, do well, and then there's three

582
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: or four that you expect to do do well that

583
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: end up in the in the out house, you know,

584
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: and who will who will that be? You know? So

585
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's like some statistics like over the

586
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: last twenty year or something that in the NFL every

587
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: year at least there's been at least four new teams

588
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs from the previous year. It's some crazy

589
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: stat like that the turnover just rolls through, you know,

590
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: outside the Patriots. That that's why, that's why when when

591
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: you look at what the Patriots have done, it is

592
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: it makes it even more impressive because they just they

593
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: don't miss a beat. And I think that this year,

594
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: with with all the conversation about you know, is this

595
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: the year that the Patriots implode or is it their

596
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: demise this year? Tom Brady still there, Yeah, set in

597
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: the all season at some point. I mean, that train

598
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: just not gonna be able to roll along like it

599
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: used to. It is right now. But I'm not willing

600
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: to really say that they're gonna falter because they just

601
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: they have been so good for so long with that

602
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: coach and that quarterback. Until they show me that they

603
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore, I keep believing that they will.

604
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Blake Portals spoke today after practice, and uh, you know,

605
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: he made a pretty good point that you're not really

606
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: sure what the identity of this team is going to

607
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: be until the pads come on you start really playing,

608
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: because they know how they want to play offense. I'd

609
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: argue you don't know until really the preseason starts into

610
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the regular season because the real games, I mean, we

611
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: knew what they wanted to be last year, a physical defense,

612
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: run the ball. But after the preseason we're like, Okay,

613
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: we're getting push her out on defense and we can't

614
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: run a niche, so what are we gonna do? But

615
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: they came out and dominated that Houston game with the

616
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: ten Saxon ran up right down to the throats, you're like, okay,

617
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: And and it's funny in the NFL is how moments

618
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: in games and situations like that can change your momentum

619
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: and kind of the path you're on. Because I really

620
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: believe that game gave this team so much confidence that

621
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: it kind of boosted the rest of the season. They

622
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: belief and what they could do. I think guys believe it,

623
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: but then you get confirmation on the field. The same

624
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: thing with the Rams last year. They got started hot

625
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and all of a sudden you start believing it.

626
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: And they one of the things I truly believe. I mean,

627
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: if you if you believe you're good, you're gonna be go.

628
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's the first step. You better believe it,

629
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: you better have some confidence. And so this year it'll

630
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: be interesting. And I think Blake says something very well,

631
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, what kind of team are we going

632
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: to be? Last year they were a team no one

633
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: believed in new head coach. You beat the heck out

634
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: of him in today's standards, and it was physical and tough.

635
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: They got the big win, and they said then they

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Speaker 1: people up again? Um? Is that their personality or does

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Speaker 1: it change a little bit, not just from a player

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Speaker 1: they were like that that was their mentality last year

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Speaker 1: because they had no confidence in the quarterback. They felt

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Speaker 1: like it was the only chance they had to win

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Speaker 1: was to protect the quarterback. Uh, run the ball, don't

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Speaker 1: Now there's a change a little bit. There's Nathaniel Hackett,

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Speaker 1: you know, conversation with Doug Browns and hey, coach, I

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Speaker 1: think you know, we can do a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: We can open it up more at the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna see that too. Now. What But what

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Speaker 1: does that do to who you are as a team?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't It might just improve it, by the way, It

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Speaker 1: might just make it that that's what we hope it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see. Those are the stories that you

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Speaker 1: That's the fun thing about the NFL because it changes

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Speaker 1: so much. Um, that's what it's the You know, so

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Speaker 1: what's the best sports league in America? Because you just

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Speaker 1: don't know? Every year the only thing you know is

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Speaker 1: maybe it was you've got Aaron Rodger. They didn't make

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Speaker 1: weren't playing that good before we got beat up. And

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Speaker 1: so now it's not like the NBA. We're at the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Golden State, and the rest is just window dressing

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Speaker 1: until we get there. You have you have no idea, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna open it up a little bit? Huh?

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Speaker 1: I do? I really do. I think that the level

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Speaker 1: Should they Yes? Okay, I do because I think I

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Speaker 1: think Blake earned a level of trust at the down

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Speaker 1: then from that point on. Yeah, and I think as

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Speaker 1: in the trust in the playoffs, the first Buffalo game

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Speaker 1: had no confidence in the quarterback. And this is after

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Speaker 1: you had a great December. So my question, I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was I don't think that that

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Speaker 1: it was a supreme confidence that their defense could shut

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills down completely. Jeff, it was so conservative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you remember the interception they have and

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Speaker 1: but punt. But but but you know, here's the thing

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Speaker 1: that's Pittsburgh. Yeah, totally different. Yeah, that's fair. Trust they

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Speaker 1: but I think they may have learned something like there.

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Speaker 1: I hope. I'm with Jeff. I would open it up

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Speaker 1: got to earn it, you know, but I would open

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Speaker 1: if you want Leonard Fournette to be at his best,

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Speaker 1: have a little bit more balanced than what you had

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Speaker 1: last year. Because here's the deal. If you if you

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Speaker 1: I think I think be a little bit a little different.

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Speaker 1: for you this year if you stay very conservative. Now

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Speaker 1: are we coming, because I know we're only doing we'll

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Speaker 1: come back. We're only doing three breaks this time, right,

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Speaker 1: football Because the one thing I want to ask, I

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Speaker 1: And the question I have for all of us and

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Speaker 1: That's hard to do back to back. Yere's not a

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Speaker 1: part of growing to as a player, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially when when you the oldest got in

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Speaker 1: It's Happy Hour right now? Okay? It is? What's in

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Speaker 1: I mean you've teased us before the break Tony about

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Speaker 1: On defense, they did pretty much everything you wanted on defense.

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Speaker 1: So what's Act two this year? Well, that's so the

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Speaker 1: big question for me is they're gonna have And we

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Speaker 1: my opinion, because you can't count on your defense scoring.

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Speaker 1: When they did, they won football games by not just

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Speaker 1: not gonna I don't want to say it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's not probable because a lot of time turnovers coming

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Speaker 1: a season like that again. Well, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: So I mean that that that's that's not that's not

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Speaker 1: as whether it be a really good offense or really

849
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: good defense to keep everybody intact, And I'm sure it's

850
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: it's happened, but it's usually a partner two missing every

851
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: few weeks. I mean, yeah, that's how it works in

852
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: this Yeah. They they were lining up with the same

853
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: group of guys every week. So I mean, I'm very

854
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: curious as much as we talked about the offense and

855
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: will they take the next step? And will they do

856
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: this and do that? All great I mean great conversations

857
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: and very uh will we see the progression of Blake Bortles?

858
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: Does he take the next step? Yauda, YadA, YadA. I

859
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: the defense, it's a great unit with great players. I mean,

860
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: they have guys who are top five players in their position.

861
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: A lot of fun we have, I mean we talked

862
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: about it last year. We had had that in a

863
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: long time here and it's fun to see you at

864
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: the top hundred list and a bunch of those guys

865
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: are from our defense. Getting to the top is hard.

866
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: It's harder to stay at the top. It is so

867
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: much harder to stay up there. Can this defense maintain

868
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: the level of play that we saw last year? You

869
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: want to be a great defense, you gotta do it.

870
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty simple. Yeah, I mean, if if

871
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a great defense, you can't have one

872
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: great season and say, oh wait, we're great. Don't you

873
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: gotta go win? I mean you think, well, you think

874
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: of the great defenses that have that have been in

875
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: the National Football League, and and some of the more

876
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: recent defenses that have been really good. Seattle obviously, Baltimore

877
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Ravens to run with their defense, they were fantastic, Justin

878
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Smith in that group when Jim Harball was their head coach.

879
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: You know, so pretty good right now, by the way,

880
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: with that defense, you know, led by Von Miller, who's

881
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: arguably the best keep football players is gone now. Nobody

882
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying back then. I mean, and you know, here's

883
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: the thing attached to all those quote unquote great defenses.

884
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: There's a Super Bowl win and so don't have one yet.

885
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: And this year, baby, in my mind want me to

886
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: lock it right now, JP, You're not great, you're for

887
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: happy hour. You're not great unless you win, unless you

888
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: win a big game or the big game, which is

889
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That they had a chance last year,

890
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: got a chance, didn't make it, had a chance right

891
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: there in your hands. Yes, I talked about I think

892
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: about that team. I think about that third and eight

893
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: team played more than anything. Yeah, Myles Jack wasn't down,

894
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: which was out of their hands. Yeah, that mean that

895
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: that was But the third and eight team the bogus

896
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: interference call. But the third eighteen is a big one

897
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: because it was because you control that one. You can't

898
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: control the officials blown a call. Yeah, that's it happened

899
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: to of them. Now. I know you can't control though, Jeff,

900
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: you know that we've been in those games. But well,

901
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: you can't control is making a play. There was a

902
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: team that who who's Trent del for the quarterback up

903
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: when they won a Super Bowl, Baltimore Ribbons. Yeah, that's right.

904
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: Actually the only quarterback the second half, you know, the

905
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: quarterback of the first half was that season, Tony Banks.

906
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Tony Banks and the reason I remember that one, uh,

907
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: he was a teammate with me for the one year

908
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: at Houstonton And the other reason I remember that is

909
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: because we put up thirty five points on the number

910
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: one defense scoring defense in the history of the NFL.

911
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: As an offense, Tony Banks decided to throw and our

912
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: defensive than him to throw five touchdown passes to beat

913
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: us like thirty five. I wish you were on that defense.

914
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: I can make I know coming up at Daily's place,

915
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: busy schedule, counting crows and live to August four. The

916
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: next night it's O A R. August seven, three eleven

917
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: in the offspring. Oh, I went to the O A R.

918
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: O R played last year with somebody else. I think

919
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: did they play O A R and trained together? Yes?

920
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: I was at that concert. I was there too. He's

921
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: a good concert, was very good. Yes, no train this year,

922
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: just O on the on their own and recently an Ounce.

923
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: Shows later in the fall include Darius Rucker When's that?

924
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: And Sting and Shaggy together. When is Darius Rucker's during

925
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: It's the Jets Sunday, it's after the Jets game. I

926
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: will be at Darius Rucker. I know who Sting is

927
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: and Shaggy the only the only thing I know. Shaggy

928
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: is from Scooby Doo. That's not that's not why who

929
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: come back? And in a little bit, No, we can't

930
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: come back. Come back. We're gonna come back. We're gonna

931
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: come back to some Shaggy. We'll see if Joe can

932
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: find I don't know who Shaggy is. You'll you'll know

933
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: it when you hear it. You don't know, Yeah, I

934
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: think so. He had a couple of hits in the nineties,

935
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: kind of deal, kind of a reggae type guy. Okay, yeah,

936
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: I believe you. Anyway, let's go around the National Football League,

937
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: shall we? Camp? Holdouts are here. Julio Jones, a no show,

938
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald as well. Donald's due to earn

939
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: right around seven million this year, finally year of his deal,

940
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: less sneed the Rams. GM said earlier the Rams are

941
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: in line to make him the league's highest paid defensive player.

942
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: Now Mac and Donald are holding out at the same time,

943
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: they're both gonna be the want to be the highest

944
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: paid defensive what's gonna happen? A couple of interesting things

945
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: are Julio Jones, He's gonna come to camp. They worked out,

946
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: They worked out there. That's done. All right, we'll keep

947
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: you honest active. Um, he was holding out. He's making

948
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: tenant half this year. He wants to make more in

949
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: line with the other top receivers, which he is one

950
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: of them. Uh So they're not gonna rip up his deal.

951
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna give a couple of bonuses. I think probably

952
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: get him over twelve and a half right around there.

953
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: The other two you talk about in Mac and Donald,

954
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: both Devens players, both probably think they should be the

955
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: highest paid player. I'd rather have Aaron Donald, I think

956
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: right now. Uh clear, Max very good too, But Aaron

957
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: Donald is a disruptive dude at free techniques. But I

958
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: don't know how the Rams are gonna pay. They paid

959
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: everybody else, they paid uh, Brandon Cooks, they paid DoD Gurley.

960
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a lot of money out there,

961
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: you know. So, but he dinna hold out until the

962
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: last possible second. Again, that is gonna be uh as

963
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: far as you know, must see TV watching that Rams defense.

964
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: Uh they've added some yet they got to leave and uh,

965
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's I think that's other things that Donald

966
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: was making like ten and Aaron Donald's like wait a second,

967
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna make six and a half year and

968
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: you're talking, I mean, already was a really good defense.

969
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: And then you're adding a couple of veteran guys that

970
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: are proven, proven commodities to that defense. Is gonna make

971
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: them even better? And then the Clio mac thinks really interesting?

972
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Is uh here's the thing with was it reported that

973
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: by Adam Schefter? Schefter right? Schefter? Yeah? Uh? That he

974
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: has since John Gruden has been hired, Gruden and Mack

975
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: have not spoken at all at all. I have not

976
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: talked on the phone, have not seen each other, have

977
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: not communicated at all. Let me let me ask you this.

978
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: How about that Either one of you can answer this,

979
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: name me one other great player on that Raiders defense.

980
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm struggling to name another player on that defense. It's

981
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: a good question of the safety from West Virginia near

982
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: the US like that was a late first round pick.

983
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm a smaller guy. Yeah, but he's not a great player.

984
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking players. Wasn't DJ Hayden there? Yeah, but he was,

985
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Like that was like his set two teams ago for him.

986
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: He's with us now right and he was with another

987
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: team last year. Um, I can't do it. Sean Smith,

988
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: I think he got. I think he's arrested. I mean,

989
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: that's like years ago. You're living in the past on

990
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: that one. Sean Smith was there Sean Smith JP. But

991
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: that's my point is is that look, that's that defense

992
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: is in Oakland, Okay, is not exactly flush with talent.

993
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: You know, Khalil Mack is. I don't want to say

994
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: he's a one man band because nobody is. In football.

995
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: He's a free agent. He was with the Raiders in trumble.

996
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: Then you get in trouble. That's why I got cut

997
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: or something. One year in jail. Yeah, yeah, that don't

998
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: keep you from playing. Sorry, I thought that's what happened.

999
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: He's not funny though he was released. What's he worth? Smith? No? No, now, okay,

1000
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: what would you pay Khalil Mack? And then also what

1001
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: would you pay uh, I'd pay Aaron Donald million dollars

1002
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: d that wanted about Clue Mac? What do you think

1003
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: he's worth here? Fifteen to sixteen less? Wow? I mean

1004
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm throwing numbers out. I don't know what the market is,

1005
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: but I mean top players are those coins Campbell? What

1006
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: do you fifteen years? Yeah, so I mean I'm probablyting

1007
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: Max seventeen he's younger. And I know what Donald wants.

1008
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: Donald wants twenty a year. Well, we'd all like I'd

1009
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: love Tony a year, right, Yeah, I mean, there's nothing

1010
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: wrong with you're getting twenty grand a year. You should

1011
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: be had exactly. Odell Beckham Jr. Is in camp for

1012
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: the Giants. He's not holding out today. The Giants co

1013
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: owner John Morris said the team would talk to Beckham's

1014
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: agents sooner rather than later. He's gonna make about eight

1015
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: and a half million or so this year, and you

1016
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: consider Watkins and Cook's just got the big bag? What's

1017
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: coming for Odell? Uh? Walking down on the why they paid? Well,

1018
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: I thought they sixteen million a year? Yeah, who paid

1019
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: him all that money? It was? Who did? Was it

1020
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: the Rams? The day with the Rams? Sammy Watkins got

1021
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: a huge deal this year. No, no, no, I can't city.

1022
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: I can't say that's right. And Brandon Cooks went through

1023
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: the Ram. That's a lot of money. Would I would

1024
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: not pay him that either that I just would those

1025
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: other guys. And I don't know if you remember this,

1026
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: but when when Sammy Watkins and Allen Robinson came out

1027
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: of college the same year, I remember watching film on

1028
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: both of them. And Sammy Watkins was a burner. He

1029
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: could run like the wind. But you would think a

1030
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: guy that can run like the wind would run the

1031
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: quick screen better. Was here this? You told the story

1032
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: five million times during the draft. All Robinson was a

1033
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: better at the quick screens than Sammy watching, and in

1034
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: my opinions, screen, you'renna pay a guy fifteen million dollars

1035
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: or a quick screen. Sammy Watkins is a one trick

1036
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: pony in the league. Now what's that? It's it's a

1037
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: deep ball or nothing. I would not pay Sammy Watkins

1038
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: fifteen million bucks a year. No, he's not worth it.

1039
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: No wonder who wants more money? He's only's like, wait

1040
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: a second, he st this cat's getting fifteen, I'm getting

1041
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: ten fifty. Yeah that's the truth. But yeah, a lot

1042
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: of money out there. Good for them. I'm happy for

1043
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: these players. What's Tom Brady worth hundred million dollars year

1044
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: piece of the franchise ship? Whatever you I mean, you can't.

1045
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean in a salary cap league, you can't pay

1046
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: him what he's worth. If there was no salary kept

1047
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: be paying ignore the salary cap. Fifty million. Absolutely what

1048
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: he does your franchise and you're in the championships every year.

1049
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's million a year guy, and it's not

1050
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: like he has great talent around and Rodgers fifty million.

1051
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: There's no cat I mean there was no If you

1052
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: have a guy like there's a only a few of

1053
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: them in the league. I mean Peyton used to be

1054
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: this guy. Tom Brady still is he was last year.

1055
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. This is can you off? Oh? This is?

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Speaker 1: This is Shag, Sting and Shack. So they were playing together.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're touring together. They're they're on stage together,

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Speaker 1: like sing at the same time. So reggae and Sting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of difference. I've never heard that. Weird. It

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Speaker 1: might be a good good next good Uh that'll loop

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Speaker 1: for Jaguars Sturs and we're back next week. Coming up

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Radio Network. It's the Doug

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Speaker 1: Morons Show Camp Edition, the debut. Are you are you

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Speaker 1: gonna tell them what you call them? Maybe we'll see

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Speaker 1: why the Long Stage, Tony Boselli, Jeff Long Guy, J P. Shattrick.

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Speaker 1: See you next time, Jaguars Thursday on Jaguars Radio