1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I am all in that kiss you. I am all 2 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast guys. 3 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Good to see you, good to see how you're doing. Yes, 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: it has. And uh I met Matt on Beverly Hills 5 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: nine o two and oh, um what your show runner 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: was on the writing staff at Gilmore and she called 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: me and said, hey, you want to do an arc 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: play Matt Lander's dad. I said, sign me up. Yeah. 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: So I so I went back and actually watched the 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: episode where you came in, because you know, honestly, like 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: in same with you, you know this stuff when you 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: do so many, like episode hundreds of episodes, it's hard 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: to remember. And so I went back, I watched it, 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: kind of watched your entrance and kind of what your 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: character is all about. You want to you want a 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: real nice dad. You're trying to get my my You're 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: trying to get me to like steal my stepdad's fortune. 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, but good times and and uh, you know 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: you Becca, Yeah, you mentioned Rebecca, and I think that 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Liam from sort of that season two on when Rebecca 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: really came into nine o two, and oh, there was 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of um Luke influence in Liam and to 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I didn't realize that at the time. 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I had not seen gil More Girls at that time, 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: But looking back, I mean, there's so many similarities. Um, 26 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: and I feel like the season one Liam that we 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: saw nine O two and oh, it was a little 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: different from season two going forward. In season two going forward, 29 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I really felt like there was a lot of of 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Luke influence and actually like a little bit of Jess influence. 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: I think, kind of that Wrong side of the Tracks kid, 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, even to the point where in nine 33 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: two and oh they got me a green army jacket, 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: which I know was one of your things, right, I 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: saw you wearing a green army jacket and uh the 36 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: episode of Gilmore Girls that we're about to talk about, 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did you guys? And you know, the one 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: thing that I remember most clearly about that experience and 39 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: what year was that? Was that like two thousand That 40 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: would have been maybe what nine or nine or ten? 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: So was it really so? Yeah? What? Because that was 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: the first year we were dating long distance? That's how 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: I know it's Yeah. I think nine O two and 44 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: No started in two thousand eight, so it very well 45 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: might have been oh nine when we had our stuff together, 46 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: because I tell you, I felt like I was away 47 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: from the business for a while. I mean, I was 48 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: kind of doing that indie film kind of thing and 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: during low budget stuff because I'd done I'd done a 50 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: series for NBC in two thousand ten that bled into 51 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven and I did nine oh two one 52 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: oh No. It was It couldn't have been O nine, 53 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: I think so was it was? It? Possibly it was 54 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: because I felt like I was so so it possibly 55 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: could have been early ten. I'll tell I'll tell, I'll 56 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: tell you why it was so shocking. You know, I 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: was so shocking. It's because the level of craft service there. 58 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the food was everywhere and it was super 59 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: high quality and there were these massive amounts of it. 60 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: And I walked down to that sound stage and I 61 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: was like, god, man, it's nice to be back to 62 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: network television. It's like, yeah, I love that. We had 63 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: great craft service, the best. They wanted us to take 64 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: our shirts off at the beach all the time, and 65 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, meanwhile, you know there's an amazing spread. You 66 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: can't enjoy the dessert right exactly exactly. But I was 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: so happy to be on that set. You have no idea. Uh, 68 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. Laura Laughlin was on that show, right, 69 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: she was yeahs and I reunited with those two and 70 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: and well, who was that nice girl? She was so nice? Uh, 71 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: the young girl, the blonde girl from Texas what I'm 72 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: terrible with names, but she's a known actress and uh, 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Angela McCord. She was lovely and welcoming, and it was 74 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: just such a great You guys were great. You guys 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: were just great. Well, I love that whole thing. Yeah, 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: that you had a great experience. I mean that's oh, 77 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: I reckon. If you ever reboot that show, call me okay, 78 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: because what are they gonna do reboot it for the 79 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: eighth time? Why not? I mean that's that's the world 80 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: we live in, right. Um So, so what do you 81 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: guys doing now? How many kids you have? Just the one? Yeah? 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: Although sometimes she kind of classifies me as a kid. Um, 83 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: that's I'm my wife does the same thing to me. So, well, 84 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: we're guys, It's just that's what we are. We're big babies. 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: We moved from l a uh to Nashville. Actually, we're 86 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: kind of basing ourselves in Nashville. And as you know, 87 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, we we have to travel everywhere to work now, 88 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: especially now. Um so we kind of at some point 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: just we were like, well, we're going all over the 90 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: place to do TV series anyway, might as well just 91 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: move our home base. And you know how our kid 92 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: grew up somewhere with a yard and that sort of stuff. 93 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: So yes, we're based in Nashville. Now, you know, we 94 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: were we were looking. I was looking in in Brentwood 95 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: and Franklin and I was looking in all those areas. 96 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: There's a big wave of l A people going to Nashville. Oh, 97 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty wild. Like six of I think new 98 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: people in our neighborhood are from California, Southern California specifically. 99 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: It's wild. And that's one of the reasons also that 100 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: we kind of chose Nashville. We kind of chose it 101 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: right before all the pandemic stuff started, so we kind 102 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: of but the city is really blowing up this influx 103 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: of people, and also we kind of felt like it 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: felt a little bit like a sister city to l 105 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: A in terms of just it's an entertainment minded city, 106 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Like the city gets entertainment. Um so there's a lot 107 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: of people from the area, a lot of flights, just 108 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people with dual homes, and there's no 109 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: traffic really really not compared and pretty much the majority 110 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: of our friends have followed us here, so we have 111 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: a nice little group of friends. Yeah, yeah, come on 112 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: down Scott. You know, I'm actually I'm actually scheduled to 113 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: be down there at the end of February because um, 114 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing some songwriting um um sessions with all these 115 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: great country artists for an entire week, and then I'm 116 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: going to perform at the Bluebird Cafe. I think, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, 117 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: you've never been the Bluebird Yeah, yeah, I haven't either. 118 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I understand it's very quaint, very small. Everybody's like I 119 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: could reach out and touch people in the audience. But yeah, right, 120 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: so right, so but now I just you know, I 121 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna probably have to move that 122 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: because I got an offer to do a film that 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: starts mid February, and I don't know if I can 124 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: kind of manage the schedule and go from that location 125 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: to Nashville for a week to do that. But I'm 126 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: really excited about that Nashville opportunity. Well, if you do 127 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: or when, yeah, I'll let you know, hit me up. Yeah, 128 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: exchange information here. Yeah, I think I'll stay. I'll stay 129 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: in Asheville proper, and then I'll just go to the 130 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Warner Chapel and and and use that. They They've got 131 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: me coming in and writing with some of their tough people, 132 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: and I'm amazing. I mean, I'm just completely intimidated by 133 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: that whole situation, but I'm going to go through it. 134 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: They say, anybody who's everybody has been consider yourself somebody 135 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: if I remember the words, yeah, I mean wow, wouldn't 136 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: that be something? But anyway, Yeah, so the whole Yeah, God, 137 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I looked all over and um, you know, we did 138 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: get out of l A. But we didn't go very far. 139 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: We went close to the beach. By the beach can 140 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: never be bad. Yeah, um, but man, I was so close. 141 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: There was some great homes. There were some great homes 142 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: for sale, oh my, and they're so big and mean 143 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: yard the prices are starting to skyrocketing area but still compared. 144 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is pretty especially when we moved. 145 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: You know what we were able to get for the 146 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: same amount of money that we were in l A. 147 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: It's just it's I know, what was that. Sorry, Angel, 148 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: you actually get a yard here right right right, you know, 149 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: you get a place for your kids to stretch their 150 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: legs and yeah, good school. Yeah yeah, I yeah, Now 151 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I just we just I just take my boy on 152 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: the beach and chase him around and chases me around, 153 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: and I love it. I collapse, you know that kind 154 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: So what's going on with you guys? I mean, what 155 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of what kind of stuff are you doing? Did 156 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: you watch the episode? Yeah? So what do you think? 157 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about the episode a little bit. 158 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: What do you think of this episode? Yeah? Yeah, so, 159 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: I mean, as you know, we are fans of Gilmore Girls. Um, 160 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: the way it started was I was actually filming a 161 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: pilot in uh. I was filming a show called Timeless, 162 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: and Angel came up to visit and she was kind 163 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: of there for a week in the hotel room. And 164 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: when I'd come home after filming, she was watching this 165 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: new show that she hadn't watched before. Of course we've 166 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: heard about it, but called Gilmore Girls. And yeah, and Matt, 167 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you hadn't heard of Gilmore Girls? No, No, I had 168 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: heard of it. I hadn't seen it because we worked together. 169 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: I came from Gilmore Girls, I played your of course, 170 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: where did you think I came from about the show? 171 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: We just had never sat down and watched it in 172 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: order that that was like, you know, with him doing 173 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: a pilot. I'm sure you understand the pilot situation, right, 174 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: there's no time to do anything, no life, life. So 175 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in Vancouver in a hotel room by myself, 176 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: just in the middle of winter, watching Gilmore Girl place, 177 00:10:52,440 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: of course, that's right. Um, So I would come home 178 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I I zalk out on the bed 179 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: and maybe get a little backscratch or something while we 180 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: watched Gilmore. That was He's downplaying it. That was the negotiation. 181 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: I will watch this with you if you scratch my back. Yeah. 182 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: And uh so we started watching it and I kind 183 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: of got into it. I think you just started to 184 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: fall in love with the characters. And honestly, we've always 185 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: felt that Stars Hollow is a character, and so absolutely, yeah, 186 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: the location definitely plays a character. Yeah, um, but just 187 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the charm of it. Anyway, So fast forward, we ended 188 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: up watching the whole series. We love it. We've got 189 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: numerous friends that watch it actually on a yearly basis. 190 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: They go through and to a rewatch. We actually did 191 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: a Gilmore Girls trivia night in Ohio a couple of 192 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: months ago when we were there, and I know you 193 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: saw that Halloween picture that we did as Luca Moore, 194 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: Lie and U Rory. But anyway, so yeah, so the episode, Um, yeah, 195 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean I I loved it. Something different for me 196 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: in this episode that stood out to me, I should say, 197 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: is I felt like there was a lot of some 198 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: of the you know, I don't want to call them 199 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: auxiliary characters, but it wasn't necessarily a Laura Lie or 200 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: a Luke or Rory. They had pretty deep storylines. You 201 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: had Lane, Um, and I felt like although the themes 202 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: that we saw were common themes in the series, I 203 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: felt like this episode was a little more yeah, like weighty, 204 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: and you know, there was that there was that very 205 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: really proposal, the very real talk between them about taking 206 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: a step forward their relationship. There was you really saw 207 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Lane kind of going through it with her mom in 208 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of a weighty way. And again, I I know 209 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: we see that that's one of her big storylines, her 210 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: mom is so overbearing, but often, as you know, Gilmore 211 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: Girls is kind of light and fluffy and Funds one 212 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: of the reasons we all love it, but I just 213 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: felt like there was a lot of weight, there's a 214 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: lot of wait to the storylines in this episode. I 215 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: find myself identifying with Lane a lot because of the 216 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: way I grew up and my friends. I grew up 217 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: in a in a very strict home, went to a 218 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: teeny tiny Christian school, and they'll lockdown on these friends. 219 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Like I watched Lane with her mom and I'm like, yeah, 220 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I went to school with her, I know her, I 221 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: know Mrs Kim, I know that life so well. So 222 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: it just always hits home for me when I watched 223 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: those storylines with her. Yeah, okay, so maybe you can 224 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: explain this to me, because we discussed this on the 225 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: podcast with it. We just we just recorded um this 226 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: separate episode, UM Lane having met the perfect guy who 227 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: her mother would approve of, and Henry cho Okay, he's 228 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: going to be a doctor. He's a good looking guy. 229 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: He likes Lane, she likes him. He greet it's a 230 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: she checks all the boxes for her mother. Why Angela, 231 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: because it's the logic of it didn't make sense to me. 232 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't Lane use Henry Chow as it get out 233 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: jail Free card with her mom because she didn't want 234 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: to give her mom the satisfaction of being right interesting 235 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion, because she didn't trust her. She just 236 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: feels like if I if I date this guy and 237 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: I really like him, I'm giving my mom her way. 238 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the good girls who get 239 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: raised in the crazy strict home who would just go 240 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: completely off the deep end and just to kind of 241 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: stick it to their parents. Kind of like that, I think. 242 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: So then I think that when she lost him and 243 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: she realized how much she liked him, it was like, man, 244 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: I screwed up because like that didn't even matter. The 245 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: situation my mom didn't matter because now I've got a heartbreak, 246 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Like there was there was something more real about it 247 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: than just oh, mom's overbearing. I think that's what that's 248 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of going back to what I'm saying. I felt 249 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of like very real, weighty 250 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: things happening. It wasn't just a boy she liked at school. 251 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: It's a potential, like real emotional relationship, you know. And 252 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: and uh, I've watched that with girlfriends that I've grown 253 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: up with that they won't go out with a guy 254 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: or entertain a guy that they like just because it 255 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: will please their parents. They want to just do whatever 256 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: it is to just make their parents bad because they 257 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: feel like they've been so um what's looking she was? 258 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: And I think I think they both realize in that 259 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: moment right after the argument subsides and Mrs Kim says, 260 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: wait a minute, he's a doctor, he's Korean, and they 261 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: I think they both feel the loss in different ways. 262 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's a very, very full moment. It 263 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: was the fullest moment of the entire episode because Mrs 264 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Kim was second guessing herself about her parenting techniques. And 265 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I think I've hurt my daughter. Now my daughter is 266 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: in pain, and I think I've been overbearing and one 267 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: at fault. I'm the one at fault. Oh my god, 268 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: she sucked. Did I do something wrong here to cause 269 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: my daughter to hide and mistreat? Yeah, I think it's 270 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: even maybe even more so, less not the fact that 271 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: she's hurt. It's more so the fact that, like my 272 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: parenting has caused her to go even further to hide 273 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: stuff from, which is what I've tried so hard to 274 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: get her not to do. Yeah. No, gosh, what a moment. Yeah, 275 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: And That's why I feel like there was a lot 276 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: of that going on with with all of these characters, 277 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of like deeper, bigger life moments than just your 278 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: typical Gilmore girls, fun and fluffy in a way. I 279 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: don't mean that in a way to take away from 280 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: the storyline. It's not what I mean. I just mean, 281 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just felt so real. It was 282 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: a weighty episode because we're seeing Dean gets so aggressive 283 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: in his jealousy. Well, Angela, we're watching the episode and 284 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: she was like, Dean is just a jerk, and I like, 285 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: I totally understand where Dean's coming from. The first time 286 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: I watched, I didn't have that opinion. But as I've 287 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: watched season one through again in season two, I feel 288 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: that he's unhealthy in his in his pursuit of not 289 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily as his pursuit, but he's just his relationship. 290 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree more. Okay you too, come on, Yeah, 291 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: we discussed. We discussed Dean and and that love triangle Dean, 292 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Rory and Jess love triangle at length, and I just 293 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I think as an actor, Jared looked at that and said, boy, 294 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: I have to commit to this stuff. I have to 295 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: play this stuff because that's my job to do this, 296 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: to make to push her, to push her over to Jess, 297 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: and Jess being cool, calm and collected the whole time 298 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: has the easiest role in the world. Where he's just like, 299 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, cool, calm and collected. She's gonna come to me. 300 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm super good looking, I'm literate that we're reading the 301 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: same books. And you know, this is the girl that 302 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: has some baggage from the way she grew up. And 303 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: obviously I have baggage. There's darkness and both of them, right, 304 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: I really and and there's a self sufficiency and a 305 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: maturity with both of them. Um, there's a sophistication with 306 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: both of them there, um which and you don't find 307 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: that with Dean. He started out that way in the 308 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: pilot episode. Dean was a cool, mysterious guy that she 309 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: fell for. And now look at him. He's like running 310 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: to her mommy saying whining. And it's a destruction of 311 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: a character. I let me defend Dean for a minute. 312 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: Character for a minute. Somebody needs to yeah, right, yeah, 313 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: because that's a tough one. That's a tough one. Counselor, 314 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you're taking on a tough client there, he's 315 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: been guilty as charged. To be fair. The first time 316 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: I watched To Get More Girls Through, I was team Dean, 317 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: I would believe. Being second time I've watched it through 318 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: a different I'm not team either one. Actually, I really 319 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: like both characters. I really like mild He's a great dude. 320 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I know he's really nice dude. Um Here's what, here's 321 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: where I can I feel like I can identify with Dean. 322 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: And I don't think that he was overreacting. He he 323 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: was humiliated, like as a man, Scotty to be publicly 324 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: humiliated like that by another guy and have your girl 325 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: not defend you, right, that that was that showed me 326 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: that Rory didn't love him. It cuts deep and it 327 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: shows shows Angela He's right, he was late. I agree 328 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: with that. I do agree with that. It shows a 329 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: disrespect and at the core of a man. I think 330 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: a man needs to feel respected, right, whether by a 331 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: woman or his woman or by another man whatever. Men 332 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: need to be respected. So when when Dean is publicly 333 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: human amiliated and and he's under the thumb of of 334 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: um Jess and then also, like you said, his girlfriend 335 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: who his you know his ride or die. It doesn't 336 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: come to his his help. In fact, she sort of 337 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: goes and you know what, sleeps with the enemy. Um. 338 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: It is a total disrespect slapping his face and he 339 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it. What was she supposed to do? 340 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: Was supposed to tradition? She is? She absolutely is. She's 341 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: supposed to say, you know what, Uh, you're slimy. I 342 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: don't care about your ninety bucks. That's my man. Here's 343 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: your picnic basket. Go you want your money back, get 344 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: it back from Taylor. Yeah. I think I think you're 345 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: the move that shows a guy like that's my girl lover, 346 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: that would have solidified their relationship, blown him away, But she, Rory, 347 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: didn't feel that way. Also, let me point out that 348 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Dean was right. She ends up having a little thing 349 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: develop feelings for him. Right, he was, But he okay, 350 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: So another thing that he has to realize is is 351 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: he can't control her. Yeah. I just think, yeah, he 352 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: was an impossible situation and he overreacted to it. I 353 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: think the only thing that he could have done to 354 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: maybe scramble her brain a little bit was not reacting. God, 355 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: you want to be with him, go ahead, I'm out 356 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: walked away, and then that's on her mind, and then 357 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: who do you think she's gonna want him? A Dean? Yeah, 358 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: it's a game, It's exactly. That's what it is. Love 359 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: is the game that the chasing, it's the pursuing. That's 360 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: what it is. You gotta take your brain back to 361 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: that instead of where you are. You're rational now when 362 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: you have hormones racing three you at sixteen years old, 363 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: you're not rational. You're thinking about like, who, who's going 364 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: to come at me the hardest? I mean? And then 365 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: on the clips you're talking about specifically a female brain. 366 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't think men do that. I disagree men don't 367 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: go which girls don't know. I'm not advocating that Dean 368 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: was correct and everything he did and that this is 369 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: the way it should have gone. I'm just saying, I 370 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: can I have empathy for that character and what he 371 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: did and how he reacted, and it turns out he 372 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: was right. I think her reaction to Jess in front 373 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: of Dean escalated the situation and and Dean's freak out 374 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: because he was seeing that his woman that he was 375 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: pouring his time, his love, his thoughts into, was not 376 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: reciprocating and that she was obviously interested and not disturbed 377 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: by this other guy. Why isn't she disturbed? Like I 378 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: am right? Yeah, yeah, she just sort of that ups 379 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: his anxiety, It escalates the situation. He comes on glued. 380 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: He runs to the mom relationship over Yeah, he totally 381 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: went out. Yep. Yeah, agree, And he didn't deserve that. 382 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: He didn't deserve it. But he's young. He'll get over it. 383 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: One more one more vote for being here, and why 384 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I have a stick up for one more time because 385 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned he runs to mommy, and I just feel 386 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: like that phrase is unfair because in this situation, In 387 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: this situation, Laurel is not your typical mom Laura. La 388 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: is almost more of a friend and the only lifeline 389 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: to Rory. But he was. I mean, I can't say 390 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: anything because I have been in a very similar situation 391 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: and I have seen my ex boyfriends go to my mom. 392 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah not good. I mean, when he gets mad at me, 393 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: he was my mom. That is not true, true, But 394 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: you know what I think, I think in a committed 395 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: relationship that happens more often than not, you know, but 396 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: I think when you're I think he thought he was 397 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 1: in a committed relationship. And he realizes he's not, so 398 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: he's going to Laureli out of this sort of concern, 399 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: But it was really more concerned for himself. And you know, 400 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I think if he was trying 401 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: to pose like I'm really concerned about your daughter and 402 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: she's making bad it's so personal for him. You're right, 403 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: it's trying to get Laurel on his team that she 404 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: can come down on Rory and say, Hey, what you're 405 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: doing isn't right. Somebody protect my heart, my heart. That's 406 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: exactly what it is. I can see that. I mean, 407 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: they're sixteen years old. You just got to be casual 408 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: and hang loose like I am with my pajamas. Hey, 409 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who was on there, and I 410 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: kept seeing the hat thinking it was hair, and I 411 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: was like, do you have J T. T on your shirt? 412 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: So where do we get that? Can we get that 413 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: at our local? That was from the last the Jackson 414 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: wore a para pet jamas in the episode before this, 415 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: where he had headshots of himself and him and his 416 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: wrestling gear all over his pajamas and he was hiding. 417 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: He was hiding from Laurel, and then he came out 418 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: in these pajamas, so we just did a gag on 419 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: the previous thing. I'm glad it was crazy. That's gonna 420 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: be my new Christmas jammies next year. I don't know, 421 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: I'll find you know, Amy got these. They sent him 422 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: to me proudly, proudly and dig where I wear these 423 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: with great dignity. I want you to know that. Um yeah, 424 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: I we we discussed that at length. We also enjoyed, 425 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: uh the Suki Jackson interaction. Uh. And it was my 426 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: opinion that Suki was just and Angela, you can help 427 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: us here, um, but it is my contention that Suki 428 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: was just toying, was just playing Jackson to get him 429 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: to that point where he proposed you thought she was 430 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: freaking out, But how did she Okay, here's the thing. 431 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: How does she not pick up on the fact that 432 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: he was so disappointed about I mean, you were talking 433 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: about somebody who's like totally aloof and it's like walking 434 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: through the kitchen catching things on fire and people are 435 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: going behind her and but she's too But the beauty 436 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: of her, she's tuned into her her intimates, she's she 437 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: anticipates things that laurelized says before she's gonna say about 438 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Rory because she's tuned into her intimates. She's tuned into Rory. 439 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: How why is she not tuned into Jackson? That's her 440 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: ultimate intimate and he's standing there obviously saying I want 441 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: to move in with you. But I think it's my 442 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: contention that she's the kind of girl that doesn't want 443 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: to live with somebody. She wants to be married. So 444 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: I think she wanted she wasn't going to be that girl, 445 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: but she's just too nice to say, hey, I'm not 446 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: that girl and reject him. She gave him a chance 447 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: to figure it out on his own right by just 448 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: completely reject not even acknowledging the my my leases up 449 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: like she knew what he was asked her to say 450 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: she knew it. I'm I'm confused. I'm confused by that 451 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: moment because the majority of episode it it feels like 452 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: she's totally aloof doesn't get it. But then at the 453 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: end she does say, yes, I have thought about living together. 454 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: You know yess She goes, I lied right as as 455 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: he was walking away the second time, So she did 456 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: pick up on all of his hurt and his pain, 457 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: but she wanted a marriage proposal. She was not going 458 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: to be the girl that lived in sin. But I 459 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: feel like she would have just said that to him. 460 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: I think. I don't know. I just think it puts 461 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: her in a very precarious position for her having to 462 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: say that to him. She does she she doesn't want 463 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: to have to prompt him, right, yeah, exactly, right, exactly. 464 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: I do want to say that it's probably the worst 465 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: proposal television history, very lack cluster. Like we're watching this. 466 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: It's so stible that I didn't even remember that it 467 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: happened this episode, you know what I mean. Like there's 468 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: no ring, okay, no ring whatever, but at least like 469 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: put the butt into it, not in conversation. Hey, what 470 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: do you think? I'm getting married and they're like main characters. Yeah, 471 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I tell you, they really screw up. You know, there's 472 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: something about this show. I'm gonna make a statement here 473 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: and some people are gonna like it, But they really 474 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: screw up proposals on this show, don't they. They screwed 475 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: up to look in Laurel, I want to where I'm 476 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: like making this big speech and then she proposes to me. Right, 477 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: you remember that I had a problem. I had a problem. 478 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: I had a big problem with that. I did. And 479 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: now this and you point this out now and here's 480 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: this big moment, and but this is what they do. 481 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: They make the big things small and the small things big. 482 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: They do the opposite of whatever this is constantly doing this. 483 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: They're constantly doing this is their pattern. It's the quirkiness 484 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: of the series, right. I just well, I have a 485 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: hard time believing that that would come from Jackson, because 486 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: he puts so much thought into pursuing her to move 487 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: in together that he's just going to casually throw it 488 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: out in a conversation like it's a throwaway offer of 489 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: like let's get married. There was no thought behind it, 490 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: no preciousness about the moment, and he just completely out 491 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: of the blue, put her on the spot. She had 492 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: every right to say no or at least let me 493 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: think about it. It just felt like an afterthought. It's like, 494 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: if you're going to really romance somebody and you really 495 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: love them, you're gonna let them know that a special 496 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: moment is happening with this special dinner. And then there's 497 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: so many roses and things are you know, the woman 498 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: sort of knows what's going to happen because if there's 499 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: an elevated level of romance and nervousness coming from the guy, 500 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: and you know whatever, they get it, you know, when 501 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: you are really smart. I mean they're smarter than we are. 502 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's like and we think we're being so 503 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 1: you know, clever, and we're not. And and it's and 504 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: she didn't get that. And I think you're right. I 505 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: think I think that kind of a marriage proposal deserves 506 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: something grand and well, I mean not even necessarily grand, 507 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: just some thoughts, something right, like you do it one time, 508 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: if you're marrying somebody for life, you could to ask them, right, 509 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: that's their memory of that moment when they just you know, 510 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: and it's got Yeah, I think it's got more of 511 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: a production. Yeah, Well as viewers then I've seen this show, 512 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen that all that episode. I don't 513 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: know how many times I still forgot that that was 514 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: in that episode Forgettable a memorable moment. I mean, was 515 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: that was that? Leaning more into Jackson's character than to her, 516 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, because he's a simple guy. He's a simple guy. 517 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: He's a farmer. He brings his fruit in, drops it off, 518 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: says I'll bring in an the basket of fruit tomorrow. 519 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, it's just such a 520 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: big deal when he asked her out for the first time. 521 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: It's but it's love, it's you're going to propose. It's 522 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: the ultimate question that you asked somebody in your life. 523 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: You're right, Angela, you know what. You're right? Um now 524 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: I changed my mind. No, I'm not so interested in moving. 525 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, no having second thoughts about it. Yeah, I'm 526 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: telling you about why don't you get married? Yeah, you're right, 527 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: it was it was cheap. It was cheap and easy 528 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: and no thought. I agree with you. I could see 529 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: that maybe we can get those actors to reshoot a 530 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: new scene. You know. You know what, the only the 531 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: only cure for this is to do a reboot with Netflix, 532 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: and it's a Luke and Laurel I massive wedding. And 533 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: then it's a redo for Jackson and Suki. It could 534 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: be a triple wedding. It could be Jackson SUNKI redo, 535 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: it could be Luke and Laurel I redo. Yeah. Rory 536 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: a Rory baby Rory whoever the baby daddy is? So 537 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: do you really not know who the baby daddy is? 538 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: I'll never tell. No, I mean, do you know really 539 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: or do you not know? You don't have to tell 540 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: us who it is? But do you know I'll never 541 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: tell Come on, come on listen, knowledgeist power and uh, 542 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm about to exit this interview. No, you're not. I 543 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: I have a lot of feelings about the reboot and 544 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot of I have a very in depth blog 545 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: post because I'm a blogger, so I've a very in depth, 546 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: very lengthy blog post review of Remember that, that's one 547 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: of my most popular blog posts. Really really? Yeah? Yeah? 548 00:32:52,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you rip it apart? Yes? It felt 549 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: like And I'm not a TV reviewer, I'm not. I'm 550 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: a lifestyle blogger. Anything real, that's my jam. But that 551 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: show like we were up at midnight in Vancouver. Actually 552 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: we're a Whistler because it was over Thanksgiving break. We 553 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: were in Whistler waiting for midnight to press play on that. 554 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 1: We were so excited. Are you throwing your shoes at 555 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: the TV? I think that it just felt like a departure. 556 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: And I know you've heard this. I'm sure the chatter, 557 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: especially with Rory, it just felt like a departure for 558 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: some of the characters. Obviously, it's got nothing to do 559 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: with the acting. Everything looked great. It's just the story 560 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: it felt like different show. The direction of the characters 561 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: felt totally different. It's like Sex and the City the 562 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: reboot right now, it's a different show. Really, I didn't 563 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: completely different show. It's tough. I guess it's tough to 564 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: capture that flavor ten years later. Now. I don't think 565 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: that it's necessarily the flate. Well, I'm speaking specifically about 566 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Sex in the City. They've just they've they've made it 567 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: so of essence of now versus what it was then, 568 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: and they tried to evolve no longer, but the characters aged, right, 569 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: so you have to you kind of have to do that. 570 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: So wouldn't it be awkward? I mean, would it have 571 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: been awkward if you know, we were nine years older 572 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: but we were going back to Stars Hollow two thousand 573 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: and eight. No, I don't think. I don't think I 574 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: had anything to do with the characters being old. It 575 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: was actually like the But I mean, that's what the 576 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: producers are forced to do, is to put it in 577 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: the here and now because when it was when it 578 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: was airing, it was here and now. Right. Look, my 579 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: biggest beef with the reboot for gil More Girls is 580 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: the fact that they made Rory completely a different person 581 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. She is not the responsible, you know, heartwarming, 582 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: loving young girl, which she's a woman now, but you 583 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: don't all of a sudden grow up one day and 584 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: lose your ability to be a responsible human beings. Don't 585 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: feel like evolution of a character. It felt like a 586 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: falling a part of a character. We could do a 587 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: whole episode just on that. We could. We probably will, 588 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: so like, let's let's put a pin in this and 589 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: we'll pick this up on the next episode. So many opinions. Good, 590 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: that's good. I mean, you know, I want to hear them, 591 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's makes it interesting, all right. Actually, 592 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: and just to piggyback off that I actually liked the 593 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: progression of Luke and Moralai in the future. I actually did. 594 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: I didn't in the reboot. I didn't have any beef 595 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: with the way that you your characters were. My my 596 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: issue with Rory, right, Rory was a big one. Yeah, 597 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: that was that was Yeah, that was that was a 598 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: tough pill to swallow anyway, all right, So okay, so 599 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: we'll pick this up, we'll do another we'll do another 600 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: segment down the road. Um, but we're gonna do rapid 601 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: fire right out. Are you ready for this? Alright? How 602 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: do you take your coffee? Quick answers? Let's go. Can 603 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: you smell snow? Are your team Logan, Jess or Dean 604 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: Grass I'll say Jess. I'll say Jess. I have no shame. 605 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: I like Jess. He actually he knows both. The only 606 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: one that you don't know in real life is Logan. 607 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't really know Jared. I've met him once. Who Yeah, 608 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: it's great, Yeah they're Angela. Your reaction was it was 609 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: maybe even better than Ted Rooney's when I asked question, 610 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: he just you know, Ted Rooney said something like what 611 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: he goes, Oh, I don't, I don't know. I don't 612 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: want to get involved in that ridiculous Um. Okay, then 613 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna really love this question. Who's the daddy? But 614 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: the problem isn't that. The problem is that nobody knows. 615 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: It could be anyone. I mean, we don't know. Okay, 616 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: So like here's I even talked about this. It's not Chess. 617 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: We saw him for a split second. It's not Dean. 618 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: It's got to be Logan, which just makes me mad 619 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: because I just don't like Logan. I don't. I don't 620 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: like him. I don't either. I don't either. I think 621 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: he's smug and yeah, he's too in love with himself. 622 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: He's too much of a narcissist. For I didn't love 623 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: the whole Ace catchphrase. It just bug me too. Every 624 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: time he called her race, it was so condescending. Oh god, 625 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: you're right, Oh my god. It's either that or the 626 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: costume guy. But I feel like the timeline didn't work 627 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: out right for the costume guy whatever they called him, 628 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember, because she had one night hook up 629 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: at one night stand. Oh right, right, yeah, okay, she 630 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: didn't even find out his name, which is so not Rory. 631 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it was just some random dude that bought her basket. Again, 632 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't seen I saw Winter. There's only 633 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: two episodes of Gilmore I ever saw. It's a pilot, 634 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: and I saw Winter at the premiere in two down 635 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: sixteen for the Ruby. I haven't seen the other ones, 636 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: so I don't know what you're talking. That's what that's 637 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: the whole basis of the podcast is. It's a rewatching 638 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: because I've never seen it. I'm doing the show fourteen 639 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: hours a, Dad, I wanna come home watching damn episodes. 640 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: So you know what's this? What's the phrase? You know, 641 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: I make the sausage, I don't want to eat it, 642 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But now I'm eating it 643 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: because it's one of years later and it tastes pretty good. 644 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: So anyway, all right, show you're binge watching right now, 645 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: we're watching Friends. Okay, he's never seen it from beginning 646 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: to end in order. Okay, alright, great show. Um, alright, guys, 647 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: it was great speaking with you. You will come on 648 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: again if you will grace us with your presence once 649 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: again from Nashville. And uh, this was a lot of fun. 650 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: This is you guys are great? Uh, great catching up. Um, 651 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: great meeting you Angela and uh and let's do this again. 652 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: I think we have a lot to talk about. There's 653 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about. Huh. So be 654 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: well and thank you again for coming on and all 655 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: the best. All right, Scott, we'll see and let us 656 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: know if you get down here, right, I will absolutely well. Okay, 657 00:39:36,360 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: all right, bye guys. See yea hey everybody, and don't 658 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: forget follow us on Instagram at I am all In 659 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Podcast and email us at Gilmore at I Heart radio 660 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh you Gilmore fans. 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