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Speaker 1: time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wait

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Speaker 1: Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, September twelfth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirty eight. Welcome to a very special edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios

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Speaker 1: at the Star. We got a good show lined up

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Speaker 1: for you guys today. Got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into these Giants days. Got a scouting

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Speaker 1: report on the Giants offense, and we'll talk about some

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Speaker 1: of their playmakers over there. A little bit of a

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Speaker 1: different offense than what the Cowboys have been used to

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Speaker 1: say Kwon Barkley. But I'm sure we'll get all into

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Speaker 1: all of that. Before we do that, though, a few

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Speaker 1: housekeeping things we need to catch up on. A players

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Speaker 1: of Xavier Sue Filo, and they also released Kadeem Edwards.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about Sue Filo. Is he is he

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Speaker 1: a guy that's that they're bringing in to just play guard?

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Speaker 1: Can he play guard and center? Does he have even

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Speaker 1: more flex than that? What's his purpose here? Is he

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Speaker 1: just kind of a backup body that they're just kind

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Speaker 1: he's definitely better than Kadem Edwards, obviously, that's why they

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Speaker 1: did it. He started some games for Houston. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a situation of do

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Speaker 1: they want to get a better guard in here than

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Speaker 1: what they had at left guard? I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's the case. I don't think they're gonna pull

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think they just want to have

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Speaker 1: a little bit more depth there at the guard position.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing and what they had in Parker

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Speaker 1: Anger and Anger. I thank god I didn't have to

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Speaker 1: would have done that all season. Anger, Anger, whatever. He's

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Speaker 1: a second round pick. Actually, I remember talking about him

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Speaker 1: I think you would call his career disappointing to this point.

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Speaker 1: But well, in the second round pick and he's not

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Speaker 1: not still with the team that drafted him. So not great.

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Speaker 1: But Cowboys have Shona. That's what they like to do.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper ring a bell um, bringing a talented guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he gives you flex. He can play either

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Speaker 1: push Connor Williams, but that's down the line. Like this

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Speaker 1: is and that's I said that on Twitter yesterday. This

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Speaker 1: is not a reaction to Connor Williams having some struggles

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. They worked him out last week. This this

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Speaker 1: is I love this type of stuff, like the mechanics

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Speaker 1: of how NFL teams used their roster. They needed a

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Speaker 1: guy because anger was going on ir They worked him out,

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Speaker 1: they liked him. But they can't ask a guy that

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Speaker 1: hasn't been here. Kadeem was here for a few months.

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Speaker 1: You sign him, you get through the game with that,

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Speaker 1: and then now you can go and get the guy

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Speaker 1: that you wanted. Yeah, was Anger? Anger? Guy was Anger?

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Speaker 1: The person I'm thinking about that had the position flex

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Speaker 1: I think I think Jason Garrett told us that Sue

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Speaker 1: it's it's hard to kind of pull away from them,

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Speaker 1: or with this offense, that won't be pulling away from anybody. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other thing to think about though there with that

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Speaker 1: point you're making about the safeties, it could have been

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Speaker 1: a situation where they got into that game and they realize, really,

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Speaker 1: all we got to do is stop the run. Like

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Speaker 1: they're not challenging us so much in the passing, I'm

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Speaker 1: playing a lot Nickel m Yeah, Yeah, you're not in

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Speaker 1: a situation where you're really getting challenge a lot. And

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, if you weren't going to be able

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Speaker 1: to have safeties back, then we're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: take down Big Cam. Then it doesn't matter if they

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Speaker 1: can cover or not. And so maybe they got into

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Speaker 1: the game and they started seeing how the game was

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Speaker 1: progressing and they were like, it's more important for us

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Speaker 1: to have really two box safeties out there anyway, because

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Speaker 1: they both can tackle, and we feel better about them

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Speaker 1: tackle than Mape tackling than maybe those other guys. True,

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Speaker 1: my point is more on special teams. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: play that way. I just I'm I'm encouraged by you know,

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Speaker 1: well you mentioned Big Cam. They don't Eli Manning's not

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Speaker 1: you know, throw the ball away going over. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I counted it up. I think Will

452
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Speaker 1: Hernandez is probably gonna be a really good player. We

453
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Speaker 1: all liked him coming out of the draft. Still a

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Speaker 1: second game, Yeah, whilee Collins had a sack. We already

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Speaker 1: talked about DeMarcus Lawrence. Nate Solder is the best of them,

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Speaker 1: and still didn't look great. Albeit to Nick's point, it's

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Speaker 1: maybe the best pass rush in the league, but this

458
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Speaker 1: should be a good pass rush to it looked. They

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Speaker 1: looked pretty good team. They looked pretty good because this

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Speaker 1: you gotta limit that stuff, and that's a great way

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Speaker 1: I wanted to at least give you guys a chance

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Speaker 1: ability of the Cowboys to tackle and that being very

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Speaker 1: important in this game. Particularly. How concerned are you coming

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Speaker 1: off the game that Sean Lee had when it comes

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Speaker 1: to tackling, because he is kind of how this thing

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Speaker 1: moves when it comes to tackling. That's his primary job,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't a great game for him in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: You think he bounced his back or you a little

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Speaker 1: bit concerned about where he is at this point My

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Speaker 1: thing with with Sean you know, with the season starting

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, I think he'll be able to go

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Speaker 1: out there and you know, get all those preseason jitters

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Speaker 1: out and he'll be ready to go. Yeah, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: gonna bounce back, especially given the guy that he is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there was no one more upset

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Speaker 1: than Shan Lee himself. So I'm sure he did everything

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Speaker 1: he could throughout the week to make sure that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be playing better, better in this upcoming game. There's

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Speaker 1: not I don't think there's another guy on this team

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Speaker 1: that I believe more when he says something like that

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Speaker 1: than Sean Lee. Because in the in the locker room afterwards,

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Speaker 1: I respect him so much as a player is good game,

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Speaker 1: bad game. He was there to take the questions and

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00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: always like he was like, look, I didn't play well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't play well enough tonight. That'll get corrected. I'll

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Speaker 1: go in this week, I'll get myself ready, I'll be

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Speaker 1: better next week. And I believed him. And that's the

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Speaker 1: thing about Sean is history says that yeah, he might

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Speaker 1: have a bad game here or there, but he does

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Speaker 1: correct the ship, and so I personally believe this is

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready to go. It's something I get

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Speaker 1: into with fans all the time. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: from the moment the game is over until the time

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Speaker 1: the next game kicks off, and like you're not allowed

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585
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Speaker 1: like don't go to the Beyonce show, Like don't don't

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Speaker 1: talking about, Like and that's ridiculous, like peep players or

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Speaker 1: people too. Just because you had a bad game doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you can't live your life. But Sean Lee is

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Speaker 1: that player like Shaun Lee, won't be happy about anything.

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Speaker 1: It's not a pleasant week in the Lee house. It's

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Speaker 1: no I've actually I interviewed his wife a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago for a story I did when he was

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Speaker 1: was like, weeks after losses or like bad games on

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Speaker 1: his part, it's just it's just it's a dicey it's

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Speaker 1: a dicey time in the household. Like he I mean,

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Speaker 1: he takes this stuff seriously. If you watched All or Nothing,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's watching tape of bad plays like the

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Speaker 1: day that of the exit interviews, Like he's that guy

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Speaker 1: everybody else's going home. He is all he is all

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Speaker 1: consumed and that's yeah. Like I'm not worried about him.

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Speaker 1: He'll he'll bounce back. I need a way larger sample

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Speaker 1: size of him playing poorly before I'm worried about it.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about the defense though, my biggest concern,

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Speaker 1: and if I had to pick one of the two,

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Speaker 1: I think that our defense would be the Giants offense.

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Speaker 1: I feel really positive about the defense that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are building right now, But where my concern stars is

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Speaker 1: how long is that defense gonna be playing out there for?

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Speaker 1: So that's the biggest thing. You keep the defense out

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Speaker 1: there too long, That is just a ingredient for fatalu

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Speaker 1: Although can I point this out, it'll be very different

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Speaker 1: than last week from the standpoint that there won't be

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Speaker 1: the humidity, there won't be the heat factor. They're playing indoors.

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Speaker 1: That does have some bearing on it. I think I

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Speaker 1: think last week you started seeing those defensive guys. I

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Speaker 1: mean I thought it was about second quarter. But will

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Speaker 1: because I will put on it that I wouldn't because

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Speaker 1: The roof like they never open the roof anymore. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying we have seen it so many

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Speaker 1: Giants at AT and T in September almost every year

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00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: that I've been here, I think the only time twenty fourteen,

641
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: I think that we played them here in October. We

642
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: have the last three years. The roof has been closed

643
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: every single time as far as I remember. Yeah, I

644
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: just I don't see a scenario where they would do

645
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: that to their own team, let alone, you know, just

646
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of. I just don't think it's. The weather's permitting

647
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: at this time of the forecast accounts for a seventy

648
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: three degrees I kick off, so it's a lot lower

649
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: than I thought it is. Not That's not cool, No,

650
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: not especially not in a stadium like that where it

651
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: gets in and then it's kind of traps the heat

652
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: from all those bodies. I mean, that ain't cool. Seventy

653
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: three yards certainly not hot. Like seventy three degrees is

654
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: not cool for athletic weather, it's not I mean, for

655
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: athletic performance, it's not. Okay, I agree with Derek, Okay,

656
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing about it is if it's

657
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna rain, it might rain, that would be one thing.

658
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: But if it's seventy three degrees and opening. They're not

659
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: opening for seventy three. Okay, Okay, they're gonna yeah, but

660
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: I think it is for your point. I mean, I

661
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: think when I started seeing, you know, what's more important

662
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: than the temperature in the stadium is if the Cowboys

663
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: are getting first downs. That's what's way more important. That helps.

664
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: They played a the defense played, all things considered, a

665
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: pretty solid game in eighty five degrees in the humidity,

666
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it took a toll, but they still

667
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: got the job done. I care a lot less about

668
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: the temperature and a lot more about the Cowboys offense

669
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: not being terrible. But if they were able to do

670
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: that in eighty five degree humid weather, what would they

671
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: do in climate control seventy one? I mean, I think

672
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: that's if they're losing much better, If they're losing time

673
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: with possession, it's not gonna be good no matter what. Yeah,

674
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that offense can

675
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: really make them pay like that. I really don't The Giants, Yeah,

676
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we just talked about their offensive line. We

677
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: just talked about the quarterback. We looked at the history

678
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: of what they've done, offensive talked about like you gotta

679
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: be on your p's and ques to keep that guy. Well,

680
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: if you're out there play series after series after series

681
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: and not getting resting time, that's how eight yard curl

682
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: routes turn into fifty yard touchdowns. I got you. But

683
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: last week again eighty five degrees. Last week they give

684
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: up sixteen points. Potato potito, This is not potato patalo.

685
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to a phone call. Um, we

686
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: do have a phone call here from stand in DC.

687
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: Stand up, Hey, what's going on? Crewey? Hey? I think

688
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: nixt right, Dave, I'm sorry. I think I go to

689
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game every year, Cowboy Giants game every year,

690
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: and I could speak of at least two times. I

691
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: know the roof has actually been open. What years? With that?

692
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: I definitely know it was the year Romo one at

693
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: the end of the game with Jason Winton. I can't

694
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: remember the other one. But it's been mentioned that we

695
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: didn't have a we didn't have good luck with the

696
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: roof open. But I've actually come away with two wins

697
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: with the roof open. Hey, there you go, I remember that.

698
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: I never remember we got hurt right, yeah, fifteen Yeah,

699
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: before he got hurt a matter of fact, Des got

700
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: hurt that season. That get a game, Yeah, that game.

701
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: My key this week is I think we got to

702
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: get Dak's confidence rolling early. I think we got to

703
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: do some of that RPO stuff early, like get him

704
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: moving where he can get his confidence and also slowed

705
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: down the Giants when they're not going to come as hard,

706
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: because I noticed that's what we did with Cam last week.

707
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: We came at Cam hard and in the second half

708
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: when we kind of rushed in our lanes, we controlled

709
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: them in that second half. But I think we got

710
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: to get Dak on the move with some RPO, roll

711
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: them out and gets a lot of these crossing routes

712
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: like Gallapad last week and Beasley. I think that that's

713
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: how bread and butter to get them going early. Okay,

714
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I mean I don't know that the Cowboys,

715
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: you guys can answer this. The Cowboys. Have they really

716
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: done a lot of RPO stuff with Dak. I haven't

717
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: really seen a lot of that. I mean they've done

718
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: some when he's been successful, they did a lot more

719
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: movement and getting him out of the pocket. If that's

720
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: what the call is saying, and I agree with that.

721
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: I think I've done in some ways to do that.

722
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: It's it's probably a good thing. First of all. At

723
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: this point, RPO has just like I mean, they were

724
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: calling play action passes RPOs the other day. It's like,

725
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's taken on a life of its own.

726
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: It definitely has a place in the game, and I

727
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: think most teams probably do it. I mean, I'm thinking

728
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: right now, like one of Dak's best plays is a

729
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: read option RPO with a slant to Beasley, and I

730
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: think Beasley caught three touchdowns off that play last year.

731
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: They coming to my mind most notably is the Chiefs game.

732
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I think it was their first score and I was

733
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: talking more about last week, Like I didn't I didn't

734
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: seem to see much of that last No, I didn't either,

735
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: But they do have it in their offices. Yeah, yeah, right.

736
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that they need to call more runs where

737
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Dak is running the ball, Like I mean that that

738
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: is playing to his strength and that's what we saw

739
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: at a CAM That's what makes him so effective. And

740
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: and get get out of this mindset that this guy's

741
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: a pocket passer. I mean he's not. I mean he

742
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: can he can make plays out of there every now

743
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: and again, but I mean, get him on the move,

744
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: get him running. That makes Zeke so much better if

745
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: you do that. When you have that zone re kind

746
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: of look, it forces the defense to split. It forces

747
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: the defense to, hey, I gotta play my responsibilities, which

748
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: means I can't help over there. I gotta make sure

749
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm handling this responsibility over here, and the same thing

750
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: on the other side. And so it does give you

751
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: a few more opportunities that if Zeke can break a tackle,

752
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: now he's off to the races. And that's what using Zach,

753
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, start using a Dak Moore gives you that

754
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: that kind of look. The thing that concerns me, and

755
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: we talked about it when we were reviewing the game,

756
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: is just they gotta they gotta find a way to

757
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: mix it up enough to where teams don't necessarily see

758
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: it coming. Because I asked Jason Garrett about it too.

759
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: Is you know those those waggles that they like to run.

760
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: They love those plays where they get Dak moving out

761
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: of the pocket and he's just got an easy throw

762
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: right in front of them. The Panthers were all over

763
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: that stuff on Sunday, like they had a guy in

764
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: his face. The whole point of the play is that

765
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: you have the option for the easy throw or you

766
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: can run the ball, and that running option was taken

767
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: away immediately. And I think the answer to that is

768
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: probably to make defenses stay honest by giving the ball

769
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: to Zeke a little bit and by having again, however

770
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: you want to scheme it up. I think Dak needs

771
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: to be more of a threat as a runner to

772
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: open that stuff. Here's where I don't understand is and

773
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: again it's only been one game, but in the past

774
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: we've seen how good Dak has been running the ball

775
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: and just figuring out when it is the good time

776
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: to run, and also making throwing a pass in the run.

777
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: So how do you go from having that and then

778
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: it kind of disappeared? I mean I would be expecting it.

779
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: You keep building up from that, and if anything, his

780
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: confidence is just going to get better because he has

781
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: already been doing that. So that's something that I'm still

782
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in this upcoming game, But as

783
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: far as that first game, I just I'm still trying

784
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: to get my head around how that just basically just disappeared.

785
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone line. To get another call.

786
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: This one's from Lynn in Oklahoma. Lynn, what up? How

787
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: are you guys? That I'm doing great? I was just

788
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: uh noticing on the game last week. Every time, well

789
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: if the Snacks does what uh what's I lost a

790
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: guy's name? The defensive tackle would always get into Williams

791
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: and push him straight back. Looney was always going mainly

792
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: to the right, and he needs to kind of help

793
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: out just the least the initial uh contact, to help

794
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Williams out a little bit on on that uh, because

795
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: he's getting shoved right back into into Zack or Dack

796
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: and uh. Uh. Also the second thing, I never saw

797
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: him so one wheel route to to uh zeke or yeah,

798
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: and everything was just in the flat. He never didn't

799
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: get down field at all. And that was just two

800
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 1: observations that I had on the game. Uh, talk about

801
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: that a little bit, all right, Thanks for the call.

802
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: Coan short is who he's talking about, knocking Connor Williams

803
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: back and Joe Looney helping him a little bit more. Yeah,

804
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: that's that which you know he meant. He said Snacks

805
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: at the start of the call like another tough challenge

806
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: this week, although a different style of tackle and I

807
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: am a team now right. I'm interested to see we

808
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: can get into that tomorrow. But it's a new scheme,

809
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: so he's he's playing a bit of a different role,

810
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: but going to be doing a lot of the same stuff.

811
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many more times I

812
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: can complain about not throwing the ball to Zeke enough

813
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: and in enough creative ways. But it's definitely it's not

814
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: something we've seen that's you're absolutely right to the caller's point, like,

815
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: and what's frustrating is that you go back to training

816
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: camp and you see Zeke doing some of that stuff.

817
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: I remember, you know they did they did a team

818
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: that we're doing that all the time, and they exactly

819
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: they did a team period where they threw the ball

820
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: to Zeke three times in a row in three different manners,

821
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: and all of it was stuff down the field, not

822
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: yards downfield, but six seven, eight yards over the middle

823
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: of the field, running across the formation. And you get

824
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: to the game and it's all stopping the flat and

825
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: look for the ball or a swing pass or just

826
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, just to be better. I don't know.

827
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't know how many more ways

828
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: I can say it. Yeah, and it's simple better. It's

829
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, at the end of the day, he's

830
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: just he's got to be better. I think he's got

831
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: to be better than he was last week, which I

832
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: think he will be. He's just working himself into form.

833
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: But they also got to find some ways, some more

834
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: creative ways to get him involved in the offense. Um,

835
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: all right, so let's go ahead and let's go and

836
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: call it a show. We'll be back tomorrow at eleven.

837
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not expecting that now. We'll be back

838
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: at eleven forty five tomorrow. We'll get into the Giants

839
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: defense versus the Cowboys offense. There's a lot to talk

840
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: about there at defense is pretty pretty good, Jeff something, Yeah,

841
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: I do, like right before, I guess is hanging with

842
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: the Boys coming up next? Yes, it's coming up next.

843
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: I just I just want to say, check out that

844
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: show today because it'll be a different look than you've

845
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: seen before and literally a lot more going on than

846
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: just football there. I tell you what's happening there with Shannon, Nate,

847
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: Kurt and just the unity there is. It was I

848
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to get emotional about it, but it's pretty awesome.

849
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: What's what's happening there again, we talked about football and

850
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: RPOs and wheel routes and all that stuff, and that's

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