1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Are You a Charlotte? Part two? 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the actual episode because we haven't even 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: touched on Samantha, which is a very funny and good storyline, 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: very funny and good, and I just want to say 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Bobby Cannavale plays the guy here. I think his name 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: is Adam Ball, which is also kind of entertaining, and 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: I do think he was based. All of our storylines 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: are based on some real story that the writers either 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: experienced or know of. 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: Really, it's too good. You can't make it up now. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: I had to come from a real experience. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: And I had forgotten all I remember. Obviously, funky spunk 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: became like quite you know, a big thing, and I 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I know Bobby. I've worked with Bobby since then. 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: We were on Will and Grace together. I don't think 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: I asked him, Like before I started doing this podcast, 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: it never occurred to me to say to the guys, Hey, 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: what was that like for you? 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: Right? 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: And I'm dying for Bobby to come on. Bobby, please, 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: if you hear this, please come on. He's a great, 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: great person, so sweet, such a great actor. But I 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: just wonder in life, what was this like for him? 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Like walking around like. 29 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing rushing last night, I guy, 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: because obviously we know he's acting or whatever. It is 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: a script, but I'm like, I wonder if after that 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: people didn't want to blow him because they were like 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: he was. 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: He's walking down the road and people were like you, 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like how mortify and think about that. 36 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: I just figured he would never get another blow job again. 37 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing fine. He's with Roseberr and they 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: have children. I think it all worked out. Everything's fine. 39 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: I think it's all good. 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: In that moment watching I was like, I wonder what 41 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: it was like. 42 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Why didn't I ask him this when I saw him 43 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: in life? But I think you just I wasn't. 44 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have that viewpoint of like what what was 45 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: this like for them? You get to have him on no, 46 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know, Bobby, you must come, you must come. 47 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: But he's so funny in it because he's not. I 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: love his way that he does it, which is like 49 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: you give such good head. 50 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: You know, he's like really into it. 51 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: In such a funny way. And then also so and 52 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: I also love that Samantha takes him and makes him 53 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: drink wheat grass juice. It's really funny. 54 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: It's like, how long does it take for it to 55 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: work its way through the system? 56 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Half hour? 57 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: I know, But then it doesn't work. I think he's 58 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: going to need more days. 59 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: I think it takes like he needs pineapple. I think 60 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: he needs asaie also. 61 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yea yeah, asae, pineapple, a lot of fruit, right, diet. 62 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: Right, he needs like more alkaline diet. I don't know. 63 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. But the thing that's funny too is 64 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: that then I was a little unclear. 65 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: When she so, So it's kind of a saga, right, 66 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: her trying to figure out this and talking to us, 67 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: and Charlotte gets up and leaves. 68 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're very angry. I know you, Charlotte, I know, 69 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: are so. 70 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Funny, Like of all things, I'm just gonna be like no, 71 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: But I think that's because I'm engaged. I think I'm engaged, 72 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like above this now, right, So he's not 73 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: going to die gather it right, So I'm like, okay, wait, 74 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: I've talked so many crazy things with these ladies. But whatever, Okay, 75 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get up and go. It was a 76 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: funny moment, but I think it's funny how she wants 77 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to make it work. She tries to take him to 78 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: get the wheat ress. She tries it again, and then 79 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: I had forgotten that she gives him this huge speech 80 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: about how it is a job and you have to 81 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: think about your jaw, and you have to think about 82 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: your teeth, and you have to think about your tongue 83 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: and men don't know blah blah blah. And I'm also thinking, like, 84 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, all the men watching this are like women 85 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: don't know. 86 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then she's like, but with the right men, right, 87 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: be fabulous. 88 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know, which is also it's all very 89 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: trippy to me. Then I forgot that she makes him. 90 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: Taste it right, but they don't show it like it's 91 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: interested they I don't know how I'm talking about what 92 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: you mean, like you. 93 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Don't actually you seem no, you don't. 94 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: See the com but you see she puts his fingers 95 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: in his mouth. Okay, okay, okay, And she said, you're 96 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: fine with it. 97 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: I pretend he was fine with it. 98 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: I know, I know, fine with you. 99 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: You know I wasn't there on the day that day 100 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: that they were filming that, right, but you know that 101 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: was like so much discussed that. That's also why we 102 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: need Bobby. We need to hear about the difference takes, 103 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and how big of a 104 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: reaction versus how small of a reaction to give. 105 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, once you taste your own funky spunk. 106 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 107 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: And I mean, I wonder how many men have actually 108 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: done this. I don't think very many. I don't know, 109 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: what do you think. I don't think so. 110 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: I doubt it is dying. I doubt it, right, I 111 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: really doubt it. 112 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: But then also Samantha says she's not swallowing, and I'm like, wow, 113 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I would have thought that she was swallowing. 114 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: She seems like a swallower to me. But you know what, 115 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: I gave up swallowing at the age of maybe twenty four. 116 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: Swallowing is hard. I mean, it's rough, man, This is 117 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: what I want to say. 118 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: I don't think that cotton style card it does either. 119 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: You can put it on my face. 120 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: Hard, okay, okay, because it's great skincare, especially if you're 121 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: broken out my stomach, my back. If I want to 122 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: have a baby, do your thing, which I don't want 123 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: to have a baby, I understand, but not in my stomach. 124 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: I just don't feel hard. 125 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: To swallow that stuff. It's hard. 126 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: It's harder about the texture. 127 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: The texture is awful, it's awful, horrible, it's awful. But 128 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: also it's just such. 129 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: An awkward, awkward moment of like do you swallow or 130 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: don't you swallow? 131 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: And what do you do with it if you don't swallow? 132 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 133 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: Well, back in my heyday, yes, usually when I would swallow, 134 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: I would chase. 135 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: It with like a shot of vodka. Wow. 136 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, well that's probably the way to go, that's 137 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: the way to come. I would think, yeah, yeah, see 138 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: i've been sober for too long. 139 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, because I didn't it's sober until twenty eight, 140 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: got it. And then if you don't swallow, I think 141 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: you have to be near a bathroom to like spin it, 142 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: see the toiler rough. 143 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: That's just all very difficult because then it's like an 144 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: ache factor that you need to. 145 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: Go spit it out. 146 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: What I don't a lot calling on an empty stomach, 147 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: though I know. 148 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: That's the other thing. 149 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: I don't think that people, meaning men, really realize that 150 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: it's like a very potent, kind of weird thing to eat, 151 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: you know what. 152 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: They should try it so they understand what we go through, 153 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: you know, I do, I do know. But I think 154 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: they would. 155 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Also say the same, you know about women, not that 156 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: they have to swallow something, but you don't. I'm trying 157 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: to say they we don't know yourself. 158 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: Before I know someone's gonna go down there. You know, 159 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: you justirl put it in the mouth. 160 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 161 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: Thanks, yeah, not too much. 162 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: No, it's really good. What if you don't feel like 163 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: it's up to. 164 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Par Okay, okay, great? Great, I was gonna I was 165 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna learn something. I was looking to maybe learn some tips. 166 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: I'm very into my vaginal hygiene. I love it like 167 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: I would my skincare routine. 168 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, oh that's very nice. 169 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: I feel bad for the people who come over my 170 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: amazing housekeepers that keep all of the ducks in a 171 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: row and me feeling like my kids can crawl on 172 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: the floor because they see all of my products that 173 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're like, what Wow, I'm sure they think 174 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: I do porn or something. 175 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: I feel enough to I don't think that they think 176 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: you do porn. That would be so extreme but you. 177 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: Mean, like maybe they just think that you're really into 178 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: cleanliness with that, you know, I'm an extreme, right, Wow, 179 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I do feel I need a list of the products though. 180 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm super curious. Now I've got you. Wow, Okay, grant. 181 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: My friends and I like to go back and forth 182 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: with like what they're using. Like my friend told me 183 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: about these these wipes that taste like something. 184 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's good. 185 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: I don't think those are good for me. 186 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: I don't think they're good for you either. 187 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Like that because I'm also really I'm a weirdo. Okay, 188 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: because I'm it, I shouldn't say I'm a weirdo, Okay. 189 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: I like to read the ingredients. I'm very funny about 190 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: what I put under my arm. Penny too, I don't 191 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: know that I love putting something on my vagina that 192 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: tastes like some flavor, feels no flavors. 193 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: That's strange, and I think that's healthy. 194 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: It's not healthy. But also like when he's down there, 195 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't want him to be like, oh, a. 196 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Banana, that's weird, that's so weird. No, that's so weird. No, no, no, 197 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's good. I don't think that's good 198 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: because there would have to be something sweet in there 199 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: to make the banana, and then you might get. 200 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: A reaction, you know what I'm saying, or something. 201 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Boo yeah boo, not worth it, not worth it, worth it, Okay. 202 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: The carry of this. 203 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: When I was watching it, I feel like it's kind 204 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: of a film, you know, like it's a lot, like 205 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot happens. 206 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 207 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: I love Charles McDougall, who directed it, one of our 208 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: just best. How he uses the camera or how he 209 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: moves the camera like it's so beautiful. You know, it's 210 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 1: like really really up the game in terms of the 211 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: visuals and the you know, like in the elevator, it's beautiful. 212 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: The elevator is amazing. Can I tell you what I love? 213 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: Tell me is when Carrie finally calls big Back and 214 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: he's in the car and it goes from the driver 215 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: but instead of just popping onto his face, it gives 216 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: you like a it's. 217 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Like a whip around yeah yeah yeah yeah, to the 218 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: back seat. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. It's good. 219 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: It's really good because cars are hard to filming because 220 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of space. Right, No, Charles 221 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: is going to figure that out. Charles is going to 222 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: have an idea and he's going to do it. It's 223 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: going to be it's going to take thirty takes, but 224 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: he's going to do it. 225 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: It's the big moment. We watched Miranda listen to this 226 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: message with Carrie over and over again, and she's finally 227 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: decided to call him back. So I take of like 228 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: bigg in the car driving whip around to him, answering, right, 229 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: you finally did you want? 230 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: Definitely? And then he's just such a jerk. Oh my god. 231 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh we love the men who are like a little 232 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: bit of like dickish kind of Do you think I 233 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: don't love that you're a hallway, you're a healthy woman. 234 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think I've been through it too much, right, 235 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean not this particular version like to me, it's 236 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: so profoundly it like if a man said to me 237 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: after this nonsense that he's put her through, and then 238 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: and he's told her in a drunken moment at a 239 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: furniture show with the. 240 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Like like through a finch, like what out of my fate? Totally? 241 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: And then you call him back after this like dramatic 242 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: voicemail and you say what is it? And he says, 243 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: I thought about what I said and it would cost 244 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: me too much money. Click, I never speak to that person. No, 245 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: get me out of my fan done, Like, ew, how can. 246 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: You get away from him when he's calling your apartment 247 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: talking to aiden and then coming to where you are. 248 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: No, that's bad, that's stocker ish, it's stockersh. 249 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's another thing. When I was watching, 250 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I've had this behavior with a 251 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: man before, and if this weren't a show, this is 252 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: alarming behavior to show up where I am and I'm 253 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: telling you not that I don't want anything to do 254 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: with you, and you continue. You know, of course we 255 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: hear her thoughts, so we know like I couldn't I 256 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: had to sleep with him, and she says, like me 257 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: or whatever. In real life, no, the experiences where it's like, okay, 258 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: this this is a toxic man. He just told me 259 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: he was leaving his wife, then told me he wasn't 260 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: leaving his wife, then showing up to where I am. 261 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: It's the high eyes and yeah, I'm not in the 262 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: grand gestures. Ick. 263 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Ick. It's hard for me to feel anything but ick, 264 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: though I do feel. I feel that Sarah Jessica, and 265 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: this is like her strength one for many many strengths 266 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: really as an actress, Like things are so real, you know, 267 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: they seem so real and so deep, so like as 268 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: much as I mean, you know, there's part of me. 269 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: I obviously know what's gonna happen, right, and I know 270 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna go kissing that elevator, But I'm just like, oh, like, 271 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't like him. 272 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: I know, what are you still liking? 273 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the chemistry, but she also has 274 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: the chemistry they and you don't. I'm saying she's just 275 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: so good. Though she's so good, and you do feel 276 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: I do intellectually understand the forbidden. You know, I get 277 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: the forbidden, but when he's being an ass, I'm like 278 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: boo on the forbidden. The forbidden doesn't trump that he's 279 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: a jerk, right, you know. 280 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: But what I've learned throughout time is even with friends, 281 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, my heart isn't involved. 282 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't tell you what. Yeah. 283 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: No. Of course, as an outsider this behavior, I think 284 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: you should run. 285 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a world of heartache, right, But you're 286 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: going to do what you want, right, It's true. And 287 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: the other thing is the unfinished business. 288 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: The unfinished business to me makes sense and not saying 289 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: that it's right, because like you're only torturing yourself by 290 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: continuing down the road of the unfinished business that we 291 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: know is a drama, right, Like there's no evidence with 292 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: big of any kind that it's not going to be 293 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: a drama. Right, So, like she's just willingly subjecting herself 294 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to a drama. But if we do go and say okay, 295 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: we can look at the aid in relationship and realize 296 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: that he doesn't really get at her. He's not really 297 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: completely seeing her. She's not giving herself. But also he's 298 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: not completely seeing even a basic that she works from home. 299 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: When he said, I'm gonna redo your floors, let me 300 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: do this for you a nice lady, what does he say, 301 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: Like a lovely lady deserves a lovely home or something 302 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: weird like kind of traditional journey bean And then you 303 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: know he's taken her whole house apart, and she's like, 304 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: I can't work like this, Like how come he doesn't 305 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: get that? 306 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying to say, Let me do this. 307 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: I'll put you up at a hotel because you're gonna 308 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm it's gonna be messy and noisy, right, But also 309 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: we're talking about the guy who like takes her to 310 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: cabins and things like he doesn't get her at all. 311 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Right, And that to me makes sense in why you 312 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: would be going back to the person who I think 313 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: she felt he got her right even though he was withholding, right, 314 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: like you can feel someone gets you, but then they 315 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: have their reasons that they're withholding that those two things 316 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: can coexist. 317 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: I think so too, right. So I think that's what 318 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: it is. 319 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: I think that's what makes sense about it when you're 320 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: watching it, other than the fact that you know she 321 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: hasn't finished. You know she's still attached, you know what 322 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 323 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: And sometimes you can't explain the attachment to. 324 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: Something exactly exactly. 325 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: That's something that is just you can't be described, right, 326 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: And everyone around you is like, make it makes sense, 327 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: and you're like, I cannot make it make sense. You 328 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: have to like live inside of my body, right understanding that's. 329 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: That's true, that's true, and that that's a really really 330 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: really important thing to remember because you can't ever fully 331 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: give advice without remembering that there is a whole experience there, 332 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: a whole lifetime leading up to it for both people, right, 333 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: and a connection that you're not present for every moment 334 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: of you know, you don't really know what goes on. 335 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting, it's interesting. Relationships are super fascinating, which is 336 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: why the show is good. 337 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: You know, they they. 338 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Write the difficulties of all of it. But let's talk 339 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: about Stephen Miranda for a second, because y'sah also super 340 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: fascinating relationship that's at a very different place, but also 341 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: like so kind of heartbreaking, right because like. 342 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: Although one that one always devastated me. Well, because I 343 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: just had and I find see very sexy. He's so 344 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: he's sexy. 345 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm shocked. 346 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm still shocked every time I'm looking back. Never did 347 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I understand this at the time. Didn't understand this at 348 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: the time. I was like, why do they have her 349 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: with him for so long? I know, I'm sorry everyone 350 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: who loves Steve, I love him too now, I just 351 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: didn't fully. 352 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: Appreciate him at the time. 353 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Right, And Eigenberg is such a good, good actor, Like 354 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: they are so great together. You know, they're so different, 355 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: but yet so also connected and emotionally kind of like 356 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: there's so many layers going on, and I felt so 357 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: bad for her, like she's having to kind of be 358 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: the mom again. And he's sleeping on the couch and 359 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, she's got her cat and he's got his dog. 360 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: And then he. 361 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Can't find an apartment and she has to go to 362 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: him to that horrible, horrible apartment, which is no, it's 363 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: pretty bad. 364 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: It's horrible, but he said. 365 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: It's not that bad, right right right right the doorway 366 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: to help. 367 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And she's so right. And it's like green, 368 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: which is also weirdful. 369 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: Like it's really bad. 370 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: And any any basement apartment is rough in New York, 371 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: I feel because you are so you feel like you're 372 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: on the street right, like you could hear everyone outside, 373 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Yeah, And like people 374 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: might decide to live on your stoop, you know what 375 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like it's like it's stressful, man, it's stressful 376 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: to have and he even the first floor apartment is 377 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: stressful in my opinion. Obviously I'm very spilled, but but 378 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, like like like that's that's one of my 379 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: issues with New York is the noise. You know, like 380 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: because you're trying to rest, you're trying to get a 381 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: little rest, you know, and one time I did live 382 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I feel like it was at the 383 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: beginning of the show. I did live in a first 384 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: floor apartment. It was kind of in the back, so 385 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: there was some relief from the streetness of it all. 386 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: But like you really are, so you're like barely removed 387 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: from the streets, do you know what I'm saying? Like 388 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: just one step, like they can't see you, there's a door, 389 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: but I mean they're right there. 390 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: Oh it's stressful. It sounds awful. 391 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I mean New York is great 392 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: in so many ways, but it's just takes a toll, 393 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's like challenging. And the fact that I 394 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: mean Steve is so you know, he seems obviously he's 395 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: gonna roll with it. He's like he's like a kid, 396 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: you know. It's interesting, really interesting. 397 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: He's very refreshing to me. 398 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: He is refreshing, And I think he's good. 399 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: For Miranda because I relate to Miranda's her being so 400 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: high strung because that's me, okay, And like when the 401 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 3: dog is barking at the door and it's four in 402 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: the morning, Oh, and she wants to rip his head 403 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: off because it's like, are you and that feeling of oh, 404 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: I can't get mad at him because he's sleeping through this, 405 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: Like he's off with that girl that. 406 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: I know, and that that also is so painful that 407 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: he just moves on so easily. That's the man for you, 408 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: I know, I know I don't like that. And also 409 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I feel bad for her. I mean, obviously we know 410 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: more is gonna happen, a lot more is gonna happen. 411 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: But like when he leaves, it is it's sad. I 412 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: feel sad, you know, I felt sad. Well, it is sad, Yeah. 413 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: Because I think he embraced all of her her quirkiness. 414 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was okay, like he never I mean he's 415 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: sad with like he wants to adopt that puppy, he 416 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: wants to have a baby, and then he's said that 417 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: she doesn't want a baby, and then he wants to 418 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: adupt the puppy and then he's like. 419 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: Come on, you know, and she does it. 420 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: But like, on the other hand, he's very in love 421 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: with her, you know, which is nice. It's so nice, 422 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: and it kind of disarms her, which is nice to 423 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: see Miranda be disarmed, you know. 424 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: Oh, it's so nice. 425 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then she gets that she gets that thing 426 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: back up like quickly, really quickly. 427 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: It happens very very quickly. And I but I love 428 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: her because she I love a woman who sees things 429 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: for what they are and names it, calls it out, 430 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: is very vocal that that's who she is. But she's 431 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 3: also a lawyer. And Steve's actually a really good guy. 432 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: Oh he's a great guy. This is why she attracted 433 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: a really good guy. 434 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, which is hopeful. It's very hopeful. Like I 435 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: think that's why it's sad too, because that there's so 436 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: much hope there. 437 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: But obviously we know that they're going. 438 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: To continue in many different ways. You haven't seen everything 439 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: that happens, I don't think, but you know, many things 440 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: happen many it's hard to keep up with. 441 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: It's true. It's up and down. 442 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: And sometimes I don't remember all of it either because 443 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot we really pack it in. 444 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: But it's believable. It's believable, you know what I'm saying. Like, 445 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: it's not like a soap opera. Yeah, you're like, well 446 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. 447 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: No, no one's turning into the devil and thank. 448 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: God, oh god, obviously. Wow, thank god, that's The Days 449 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 2: of Our Lives. My mom made me watch it. 450 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: It was a snowy day in December, and it traumatized me. Gosh, okay, 451 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: I remember vividly watching Days of Our Lives with that happening, 452 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: So no. 453 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: I s don't remember that. Wow like that. 454 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: Now, we haven't really talked that much about Charlotte because 455 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: one of the things we haven't talked about is Bunny 456 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: Trey's mom, Francis. 457 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: Sternhagen rest in peace. An incredible actress, an incredible person. 458 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: She's just so good. She's so good, Oh my god, 459 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: she's just so good. And she's very not like this character. 460 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: She really Yeah, she lived in Connecticut, she had land. 461 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: She's been working forever, you know, on Broadway, all different things. 462 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: She would come in and her broken stock and her 463 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: like gardening hat basically like dirty from the garden and 464 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: get made into Bunny, you know. And then she was 465 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: just a sweetheart, just so sweet, but also like not 466 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: precious about anything, just like fun, you know, really really fun. 467 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: And they're so good together, Kyle and she, Trey and Bunny. 468 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, it is kind of like we've 469 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: just started with that relationship, right, So Charlotte's definitely taking 470 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: it in and trying to learn from her and obviously 471 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: wants her approval and everything. We don't really know how 472 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: weird things you're going to get at this point, you 473 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 474 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: It's weird. Yeah, it's weird. 475 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: But the thing that I love too is that And 476 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: we'll see when we actually get to those episodes. 477 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: But like, it's the vibe is weird. 478 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Nothing horrible happens except when she's sitting next to him 479 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: in the bathtub. 480 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: That's weird. 481 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: But it's like still got the veneer of like, oh 482 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: they're just you know, close quirky, you know what I'm saying, Like, 483 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: it's not too weird. 484 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: No, but the vibe is weird. 485 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: But even because and I don't know if this is 486 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: how it was supposed to play, But when you guys 487 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: are at lunch, the first time Bunny puts her arm on. 488 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: Tray, you clock it with it. 489 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, as it feels weird, it's strange. 490 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Oh, but then is learning. 491 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: But then the second time it happens, your face shows 492 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: me that you're like, oh, I just learned a little 493 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: bit of a manipulation tactic. 494 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, because we've never really seen Charlotte try to 495 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: manipulate anything at this point. 496 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: But you're getting the ring come down. Definitely. That's right. 497 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: I've had the books, I've had this, I've had that, 498 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: I've you know, tried to hang out with my married 499 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: friends whatever. I've tried to do all these different things, 500 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, okay, I'm going to try to 501 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: figure it. Dude out by his mom. Just interesting. He 502 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: knows him best, Yeah, for sure, for sure. 503 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: And the thing that I thought about also. 504 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: Because I've never I had never talked to Kyle about 505 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: any of this until he came on, because back then 506 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I just was never asking anybody. 507 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: Like what do you think you or whatever? I don't know, 508 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, just in it. 509 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: We're in it, right, Yeah, he is, you know, because 510 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: he is Kyle McGlaughlin the actor. And obviously i'd watched 511 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: him on Twin Peaks. I don't know you were you 512 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: were really young, but I mean, you know, incredible character, 513 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: incredible actor, but always kind of covered. He has like 514 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: a cover to his to his face, to his way 515 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: that he is, you know. And he thought when they 516 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: first called him for Trey that he was going to 517 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: get to play like a normal guy, like a regular surgeon, 518 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, preppy, normal guy. And then they told him like, 519 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and you have, you know, some sexual dysfunction 520 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: and you're very close with your mom. And he was like, 521 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: darn it. But what I think he brings, which is 522 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: so interesting, is you aren't quite sure, Like when he 523 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: starts saying alrighty all the time, You're like, but what 524 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: does he really want? 525 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: You know? 526 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: It's interesting and I don't know what I'm gonna think 527 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: is I keep watching like what what does he really want? 528 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't. 529 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. You know, yeah, did you think. 530 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: That it's almost like he goes into a trance anytime 531 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: someone touches his arm that way? Yeah, because you're like, 532 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: why don't you have the tomato with Basil at sair? 533 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: And he was like alrighty right. 534 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: And then when it appears, he acts like it's the 535 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: most gorgeous thing, right, So it's like a piece of art, right, 536 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: You're I don't I think men who have mothers like Bunny, 537 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: there are moments where you still see that mama's boy 538 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: where like they sort of need guidance and direction. 539 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, I mean, we're gonna see where it goes, right, 540 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: like cause I don't, I don't, I don't know because 541 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: also for me when I'm rewatching it, like because I 542 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: was with Kyle in life right acting, right, Yeah, it's 543 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: so hard to separate, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 544 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: because you're with the person eighteen hours a day doing 545 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: the stuff, you know, and you spend more time not 546 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: between action and cut that's like the small amount of time, right, 547 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: and the writing is so good that the writing, you know, 548 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: carries you through that part, right, and you're just trying 549 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: to be connected to the person, which was super easy 550 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: to be connected to Kyle because he's just a dream 551 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: like an always like as an actor, as a person 552 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, in Always, he's a super sweetheart, like so easy, 553 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: incredibly easy to work with and fun you know, like 554 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: doesn't take it. 555 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: Too seriously but is totally professional. 556 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: Like interesting combinations that you don't always get, you know, Like, yeah, 557 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: sometimes actors are I. 558 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: Don't know who I should name or not name, but. 559 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: Certain actors in the show, not my actors, but other 560 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: actors big personalities, right where like you're trying to kind 561 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: of get them to do what is written, do what 562 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying. 563 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: To say they want to go off script, and that's. 564 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: Not really allowed here right in our world, you can't 565 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: go off script, right, But like, their personalities are just 566 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: so huge and charismatic, incredibly charismatic and big personalities, and 567 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: then you're trying to get them to just do what 568 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: you wrote, you know, but they're bringing all that with him, 569 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: which is what makes. 570 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: It so great. 571 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: But also you kind of have to manage it a 572 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: little bit, you know. Kyle no managing. He's just in 573 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: the groove. He knows what he's doing, you know, he's 574 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: he might ask questions or whatever, you know what I'm saying, 575 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: But he's just so professional and great. That's largely so 576 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: you can have fun, is what I'm saying. Kind of 577 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: like it's just fun and easy, so easy. I do 578 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: also think that was really the first time, oh I 579 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: forgot I mean on Melrose. I was on Melrose for 580 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: a year working with Andrew Shoe, who had been a 581 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: soccer player before he was on Melrose, right, so he 582 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: wasn't really like an actor actor, you know what I'm saying. 583 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: Right, So it was I was always like, you know, 584 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: let's act, what I. 585 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Mean, and he was like he was like please, please, 586 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: don't suggest any blocking, And I was like, why not? 587 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: What do you mean, Like Kyle's not like that. Cau's like, yeah, 588 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: what do you want to do, Like let's do that? Yeah, 589 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: like great, let's do that. 590 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: Let's ask for that. You know, He's just easy. It 591 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: makes it fun, you know what I'm saying. 592 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: Once the fun is gone, what are you doing totally? 593 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: And I mean sometimes sometimes to get good work, you 594 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: might not have fun, right, so you kind of have 595 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: to surrender to that as an actor, Like each situation 596 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: is different, each actors different, each actress is different, right, 597 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: and so sometimes it might not be fun, but the 598 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: work might be great, right, And that's okay because the 599 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: work is what really matters. 600 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: Do you feel like he was he was a well 601 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: balanced actor. Yeah, he could come and do his job, 602 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: make it fun, yes, but everyone got to go home 603 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: on time and it was like. 604 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Oh, we never went home on time, But it had 605 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. That's not how we roll. 606 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Do not know how a home on time. If there's 607 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: time in the day, we will continue to do angles 608 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: and takes. And you know, like I said, like when 609 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: we the first one of the first things I remember 610 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: about Charles McDougal was we go to Burgdorf and I'm 611 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: looking at china with Kyle and I'm flipping this plate. 612 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: He brought a crane into Burgdorf, like up on the 613 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: upper floor, and he had this shot that he wanted 614 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: to do where you would actually see the pattern of 615 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: the china and then I would flip the plate and 616 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: you would see who made it. That's what I'm saying 617 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: in the scene thirty six takes. I remember doing thirty 618 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: six takes. 619 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: Of just flipping the plate. Mm hmm. 620 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Well he'd flip the plate and then he'd panned back 621 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: and the scene would start, so that would be the master, 622 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: you'd call it, and then you just are in the 623 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: master where you're getting the whole whole scene and then 624 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: you cut into close ups, right, So it's just a 625 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: couple seconds really, but he wanted it to be amazing. 626 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: And it was. 627 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: But I mean, thirty six takes sheep, no, no, no, 628 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: this is when we really started to get the money edible. Yeah, 629 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: it was incredible, but it was fun because like it's 630 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: a challenge trying to say because you're having to flip 631 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: the plate just right, but also be in the scene 632 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: and be you know, do your lines and be good 633 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: and whatever, you know what I mean. And also in 634 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: this scene sorry this episode is when we're walking on 635 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: the street to Tiffany's. That was also really fun because 636 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: he was on a long lens, which is what makes 637 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: it look like a film rather than like a super 638 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: short lens where they're really close on you. He's on 639 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: a long lens blocks away, and he would put Kyle 640 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: and I like five blocks away and he'd say, just walk. 641 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: And so there's a few extras right close to us, 642 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: but the rest are. 643 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: Like people in New York City. 644 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: And then he'd just be like, walk and I'd be like, Kyler, 645 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: do you think we're on our marks? 646 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: Do you think we're in the frame? You'd be like, 647 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's just walk, So you don't even 648 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: know if you're in the frame, right, Wait. 649 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: So those are people just walking through New York City? 650 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them. Yeah. 651 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: And so what they would do if you ended up 652 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: being in a take that we liked is at the end, 653 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: they would get you to sign a release. They would 654 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: say like, oh, you just walked through our scene, could 655 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: you sign a release? If that's okay, you know what 656 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean. But then the people closest to us would 657 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: be extra so that they would keep walking and not 658 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: just stop or you know what I'm trying to say, yeah, 659 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: stop the scene. 660 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: But then and then we. 661 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Walk up to the really cool shot through the window. 662 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: So he's in Tiffany's filming through the window at us 663 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: because I think at the time we couldn't film in Tiffany's. 664 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: They could film at Tiffany's, right, but they didn't want 665 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: us to come in and film. And that reminds me 666 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: of I know, you haven't seen the end of Just 667 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: like that, we Sarah Jesskin I go in Tiffany's, but 668 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: we had to go in really early before it opened, 669 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: and we had to be out at a certain time, 670 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: so we were rushed, like so rushed, But we did it, 671 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: and it was magical to be filming inside Tiffany's. 672 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: Obviously it was. 673 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: It was amazing, but back in the day we couldn't 674 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: afford and or get to be inside, so he had 675 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to be creative about framing us in the Tiffany window, 676 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: which was so beautiful. 677 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: It worked out. 678 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: I love it because and then Carrie's voiceover talks about 679 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: how that was going to be the story. 680 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: I say, all right, which is so Charlotte and said alrighty, 681 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know. 682 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 683 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: The alrighty really takes. 684 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: That was like, oh my gosh, who says right? Was 685 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: now going to be your. 686 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: Respect totally, which I think is great. But obviously they 687 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: don't last, so I don't get to tell that story. 688 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: But that's okay. 689 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: And then you go into another relationship where it's like, 690 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: this is not how the story is supposed to go 691 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: in my head. 692 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: I know, but it works out. It does work out. 693 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: It's all about having to roll with it. Yeah, yeah, 694 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: which is super important. All right, Wait, very important question 695 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: that I sometimes forget, but I think we already know 696 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: some of the answer. So you've already said that you 697 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: you love Miranda and you you recognize Miranda and yourself. 698 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: At this stage of my life, I would say I'm 699 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: mostly a Miranda, mostly a Miranda. 700 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So is there any Charlotte and La Lacan? I feel. 701 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: Not right now? 702 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool, there's always a lit I. 703 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: Just totally just lied to you, okay, though, the being 704 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: in my head and how I picture things going okay, 705 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: and that will never leave right right, That's just who 706 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: I am by nature. Right right, Like, no, the wind 707 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to blow this hard today. Oh no, that's 708 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: my old day's thrown off. 709 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's funny. But sometimes I think that that. 710 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think that quality can really serve you well 711 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: in life in that like you're trying to create, Like 712 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: it's a creative force, do you know what I mean? 713 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: Like I never tried to deny that part of myself. 714 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: That's good because obviously looking at the way my life 715 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: has been and that piece of me has been with 716 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: me since I was a child. And I think my 717 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: daughter Sosa, who's fifteen months now, has that same Oh great, yay, 718 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what, I find it to 719 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: be something that served me, So why I need to 720 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't need to try and fix this and alter it. 721 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. 722 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: So you have your untraditionally l LA podcast and so 723 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: that's on right now. 724 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: That airs every Wednesday, and a bonus episode comes out 725 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: on Mondays. 726 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: Cool and then Hare the second podcast is coming. Yes. 727 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: So I started upon with my friend Amber Childers. It's 728 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: called an unlikely affair and although there's there's nuance to 729 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: our relationship, but I won't bore you with that long 730 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: story she was the wife and I was the mystress incredible, 731 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: and I still stand by. I did not know, and 732 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: maybe had I been sober at that point in time, 733 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: I would have not painted red flags. Green doesn't matter 734 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: what it is. 735 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: So this person didn't tell you I'm married. He this 736 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: person said we are separating. I got it. This happens 737 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: so much. 738 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: And I actually found out that after I had left him, 739 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 3: I got a text message of a screen shot and 740 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: it was between Amber and someone she was dating at 741 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: the time, and it said from Amber, I am no 742 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: longer going to be able to see you because I've 743 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: decided to give my marriage another shot. And that way, 744 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 3: and so I learned, like, oh oh, I was very 745 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: much in the dark about a lot of things. So anyway, 746 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: after I had ended my relationship with the person we 747 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: had in common, I called her and made an amends and 748 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: we've just gotten so close and so nice. The timing 749 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: is perfect, and she's really helped me through a lot 750 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: of rough times that she's been through, and I offer 751 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: her support when she needs me, and it's just amazing 752 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: and untraditional relationship so much. 753 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: It'll be a lot of fun. Great. 754 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: I love to hear about women coming together. And I 755 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: do think so many people have been through situations where 756 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: they're not told the whole truth, and then people tend 757 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: to blame the women, which I think is unfair because 758 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: how do we how how do we know? We can't 759 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: see through everything. We don't know when people are manipulating 760 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: on both sides. 761 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: No, you don't know. 762 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: And it's really it's just such an uncommon bond. You 763 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: hear about people you know, going their separate ways, getting 764 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: remarried and all is good and they're like one big. 765 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: Happy family. 766 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: It is very rare that someone is the wife and 767 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: the mistress and those two end up. No said the 768 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: other day, she was like, I feel like you should 769 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: have just had an affair with me. I was like, yeah, 770 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: I feel the same way. You're much better looking. 771 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: That's so nice, that's so so nice. And so what 772 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: is going to be the topic, Like, what are you 773 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: guys going to talk about? 774 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about co parenting, We're going to 775 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 3: talk about dating at this age, sex, what that looks 776 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: like at our age. Her kids are older than mine, 777 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: but again they share a dad, and just parenting tips 778 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: and what our kids have in common, what it's like 779 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: to raise kids in the social media world and like 780 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 3: nothing is going to be off limits. 781 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: Amazing. 782 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: I know that so many podcasts are like, we're unfiltered 783 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: and unapologetic, but this is very much a podcast where 784 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: it's raw and I'm just so excited. It's spicy and 785 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 3: sexy and and the dynamic is very different than most 786 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: podcasts out there. 787 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: Cool, very nice. I can't wait. I can't wait to listen. 788 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm super curious. Yay, thank you, You're welcome. I'm so excited. 789 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, thank you for having me. 790 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: You're super interesting. 791 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I have the best 792 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: time with you. 793 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: Are you are You're very very interesting.