WEBVTT - Fire Drill 049: The Ephemeral Nature of Winning 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.279 Welcome back to the Fire Drill. Before we get started, 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.840 two of our great UH partners, the Dormy Workshop, make 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.000 artisanal that's the word I have stolen from Alan ship 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.000 Nick artisanal club covers. They do a bunch of other things. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.120 Great place Dormy Workshop. Check them out and then also 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.239 part points awesome map UH great way to new way 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.280 to play and score golf. It's awesome place, UH, just awesome, 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:33.160 So please check them out. They're a great place. UH. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.040 They also sent us a bottle of wine at Bandon 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.960 and we drink um this weekend the fire Drill, we 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.280 talked Russell Henley and his five wins. A. I didn't 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.760 know he had five wins, and B we discussed whether 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.680 it's the quietest five wins and PGA tour history because 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.960 that is a very small group to be a part 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.400 of UH and most of his wins are dominant, although 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.360 this one ended like two or three strokes, usually wins 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:02.280 by seven. We allegedly talk about Patrick Read and allegedly 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.080 some of the things that he has allegedly done or 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.200 not done. We also talked about his wife, who allegedly 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.160 might be on Twitter UH and allegedly might be behind 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.760 all of the things that are happening and the reading. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:24.080 Uh compound, that's a huge Allegedly, Uh, we talked about 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.560 dl Fincher Walt. You might not know the name. You 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.760 might know the name. I have a story about him 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.319 and why it's important to me. Michael knew him and 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.959 was friends with him and had some great stories. There's 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.000 a Phil and dal story in there. We talked about 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.920 the Asian tour and a thirty seven dollar check, and 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.520 we talked about Q school. Uh. And Jake, my producer, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.400 didn't even tell me in our recap of what we 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.800 talked about why we talked about Q school. And that's 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.120 ridiculous because that's the most important thing we talked about. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.120 The Fire Drill is my favorite. I've told you that 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.320 many times I get to listen to Michael Bamberger and 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.640 Allan ship Nick tell great stories. The was no different. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.680 Without further ado, here is the three of us talking 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:13.720 about golf. Allegedly. I got thoughts in my head. Can't 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:21.720 get Joan nothing what I'm thinking about, can't get him 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:33.799 out nothing, think what I'm thinking about. Hello, this is 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.400 Alan ship Knuck back for another Fire Drill podcast. It 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.440 is Sunday that means Michael Bamberger and Philadelphia and Ryan 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.560 French somewhere in the middle of America have joined us. Boys. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:51.560 Thanks for being here. Delighted Michael, Alan Jake behind the scenes. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.359 Good to be here. Michael usually just give us a 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.119 raised fist or something that the podcast listeners cannot hear, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.600 so I'm happy. That's actually real quickly. This is not 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.880 the greatest way to start the podcast, but real quickly. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.440 Jake Muldowney is our producer, huge Packers fan, I'm Alliance fan. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.239 Today didn't go great. Next week, Jake is going to 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.760 He usually doesn't show his face on this thing, but 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.280 he's going to next week because I have an amazing 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.720 Lions hat that I'm going to send him and he's 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.440 going to be on. Thanks Jake, Love you, buddy. Well, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.960 it's it's a competitive sport um being a football fan 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.359 if you're a member of the fire Pick collective. So 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:32.360 let's start in uh in Mexico at Mayacobo because Russell 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.160 Henley won. I mean, if I'm honest, I haven't thought 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.320 about Russell Henley in years, not I at all. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.520 and that's no you know, he was might just send 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.760 her up for one quick second thirty six whole later 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.640 at the US Open in San Diego. I think we 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.360 all remember that. Yeah, that was that was the last 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.360 time I thought about him, honestly, And but great guy, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.480 he's just super dude. I've always enjoyed talking to him. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.320 So this is his fifth career PGA Tour win. He's 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.920 gonna he's now headed to probably thirty or forty million 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.440 dollars in career earnings. He's gonna have a very very 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.400 nice career. Um, I mean, is is Russell Henley the 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.400 poster boy for just how good these guys are? Is he? 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.680 This is an indictment of the tour that you can go, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.640 you know, you can go years that winning and then 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.839 all of a sudden he wins again, Like where have 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.640 you been all this time? Russell? Like what do we 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.880 make of the fifth career victory for Russell Henley. He's 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.960 a super talent. You know, I would say he's at 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.560 the Willie Wilcox level. And uh, you know, he's got 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.840 all the shots. He's not very long. But I've I've 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.240 watched him play. I've always enjoyed watching him play. He's 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.520 a great talker and and you guys probably know the 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.719 story where he q himself when he was playing with 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.400 a nonconforming ball? Was this the same tournament? Think it 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:45.760 might have been. Do you guys happen to know? Was 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.240 that in Mexico? But anyway, it was one of those 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.560 situations not to get into all the details. Um, but 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.479 he was the only person who could have possibly known 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.120 that he switched golf ball brands from a conforming to 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.919 a nonconforming that happened to be in his bag and 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.880 he used it and uh, and he missed the cut. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.039 And what he said really honestly at the time was 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.760 he was more afraid of how he would feel if 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.360 he cheated and stayed in the tournament. He was afraid 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.920 at what the long term repercussions would be for his mind. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.400 He's a super interesting guy and I'm couldn't be happy 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.240 for him, and he's a he's a major talent. And yes, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.600 it's your point. I think it does. I think Russell 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:24.320 Henley's occasional appearance, uh and his ability to contend just 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.920 does show you another example of how incredibly deep the 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.560 PHA tour fields are. Yeah, I mean I remember his 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.080 first win, um kind of was like twelve years ago 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.359 now in Hawaii, you know, he went twenty four under, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.680 was the second lowest score in PG Tour history. Um, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.679 and it was like wow, when he was a rookie, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.800 He's like, this guy is going to be a world beater. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.719 And um, you know, I think that golf course favors 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.200 a certain kind of finesse player and you know, maybe 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.080 that it was just one of those things. But UM, 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:58.600 I just I'll never forget when he came out of 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.040 box like that, you know, basically the start of his 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.840 rookie year. Um. So I'm sure Russell Henley is probably 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.000 content with with his career. But I've always I've always 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.360 kind of remembered that performance and thought, well, where's Russell Henley? 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.760 Or I haven't thought of Russell Henley? But I don't know, Ryan, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.039 what what's your take on on on what it means 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.560 when when these guys just pop up and and snatch 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.160 a victory and then disappear for a while. Uh. I mean, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.720 I think it makes me think two things. I just 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.880 looked it up. But Ricky Fowler has five wins right A. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.039 It makes me think what marketing means, right Like, I 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.800 don't know if that's just personality or agent or a 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.880 combination of all of those things or being in contention 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.760 and majors or whatever, but they have the same amount 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.400 of things. And it also makes me think and and 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.560 this is me included in this group that we underappreciate 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.320 a lot of players on the PGA Tour, and Russell 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.200 Henley would be amongst them. I mean, five wins is 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.800 in the scheme of things. You know, how long the 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.479 tour has been around, and how many players have five 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:04.679 or more wins. It's miniscule. And uh but I mean again, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.120 this is not a shot at Russell. It's just like 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.120 all of a sudden, you don't really think about him 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.560 for a year or two years or whatever or eight 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.880 months and then all of a sudden, boom he wins again. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.840 I mean it is the quietest five wins, one of 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.440 the quietest five wins that I know of. Who will 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.040 win next on the PGA Tour Between Russell Henley, Jonathan 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:27.840 Bird and Rick Fowler? I mean, well, I think Jonathan 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.560 Bird's probably, I mean he's been knocking around. I don't know, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.880 you can never guy, He's just like he's gonna be 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.280 sixty four and you can be like out there on 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:39.240 the tour somehow, Um, Jonathan Jonathan Bird mad respect to 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.920 that guy has he pushes his own push cart at 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.440 corn Ferry Monday's I mean wild. I mean I've tweeted 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.920 about him many times. He's been super super nice to me. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.360 Great dude, and uh and um, I just can't believe 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.640 that a man who has that many PGA tour wins 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.960 pushes his own card at the at a corn Ferry event. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.240 But John Birton, he has five tour wins. Is that 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.960 why you're going this direction? Michael, Yes, yeah. I mean 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.560 for you to say, Ryan, when you say it's a 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.120 minuscule amount, I mean it's actually somewhat substantial. I mean 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.400 there's there's a lot of guys who know. I mean, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.240 I'm a miniscule amount of people have that many wins. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.760 I see I misunderstood. Yeah, you know. And it's just 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.880 like we and this is me included all of us. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.920 I'm not talking just the three people in this room. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.360 It's like we kind of underappreciate Russell Henley. Right we're 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.520 talking before. It's like, I mean, oh, he's got five wins. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.079 I was like, he's asked five wins. It's like, I mean, 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.640 and that is I mean, he is in a very 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:41.520 very very select group of PGA twour players. Well, and 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.920 not only that, I mean he led by six strokes 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.199 through fifty four holes. That's hard to do. I mean 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.800 that that is that is a dominant before does every 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.800 time he wins. Yeah, I mean you can go deep 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.280 and that's I guess my frustration is like, if if 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.080 you're good enough to lap the field like that, um, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.960 how can you can't do it more often? I mean 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.120 that that's that's my big question. And it's not specific 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.200 to Russell Henley. It's it's a lot of these guys like, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.800 if you're good enough to to go that deep and 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.679 completely blow away the field in over fifty or four holes, 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:14.599 you know, shouldn't be able to win in two or 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.320 three times a year. I use a Graham to let 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.679 uh and we're Michael and I. We've talked about a 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.400 lot of stuff, but we talked about Graham to let also. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.840 I use a quote of his um a lot and 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.320 he says, you know, if you're not a top player 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.200 in the world, for most guys like myself or in 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.920 this case Russell Henley, like we have our best stuff 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:38.000 maybe five times a year, and you know, if we 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.960 don't take advantage of it. We're not gonna win that 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.880 year because our B game and C game is not 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.839 good enough to win on the PGA tour. So I mean, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.760 maybe he just falls into that. But his A game 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.000 is ridiculous, you know. I think it was David's Love 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.160 who said, you know, and I've heard it from a 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.800 few people since, like of a tour players earnings are 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.000 gonna come in their starts. Like it's kind of what 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.400 you're saying, Ryan, Like the these guys they have a 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.760 handful of hot weeks and that that makes the whole season, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.960 And um, I don't know that they're so optimized if 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.319 they want to be with the track man and a 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.320 sports psychologist and the nutritionist and the trainer, Like I 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:18.000 guess I would just expect a little more consistency week 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.360 to week. I mean, like look at Steph Curry. You know, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.120 he his numbers came in and game out are almost identical, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.800 and he's playing against different teams every night. They're designed 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.199 to stop him, but he kind of maintains a very 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.240 consistent performance. Obviously, he's one of the greatest players of 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:33.840 all time, so maybe that's not a fair comparison, But 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:38.720 like you know there's Uh, that's that's my my question. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.560 And maybe that's the ephemeral nature of sports, and golf 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:47.360 is hold on ephemeral word of the day. What does 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:52.040 ephemeral made experious like it's that's I mean, that's the 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.040 great mystery of sports. That's why some guys can do 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.320 in some camp. Michael, what are your thoughts on this? Well, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.920 you know, I think Russell Henley, if he were on 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.200 the program right now, tell us that he is a 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:06.280 head case. Uh So, Alan, everything you're describing is great 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.800 if you're mentally tiger and you can just bring it 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.520 every time. If you don't have it, you'll summon something else. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.760 And Russell Henley, by his own admission, isn't built for 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.880 that he had There's a lot of things that go 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.000 crazy weird in Russell Henley's mind, So I don't think 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.000 I just don't think he's capable of it. One to 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.280 this conversation leads to something that I've thought about, but 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.440 not really this specifically ever before. Before. Uh. Given what 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.440 you just said about the twenty numbers, it's amazing that 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.319 the golfers don't tank like the tennis players. In other words, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.640 they grind and grinding, grinding, grind to make cuts and 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.280 everything else. And based on eight D twenty, I'm not 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.760 really sure why they do, but they do do, and 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:54.480 it's interesting. Yeah, well, I mean there's a few reasons. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.560 I guess sometimes you don't know which is your is 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.000 your weak you know, there's a million examples of guys 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.720 barely make the cut by one stroke and then they 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.760 go really deep on the weekend and they finished T 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.520 three and that's what that's one of their great weeks. So, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.480 I mean it's things things can click with with one swinger, 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.520 one put. So I think that's the answer Michael is 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.880 they don't quite know when it's coming. But to be fair, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.679 and Michael knows as he's Caddy. But when you're like 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:24.360 ttight and you have no real chance of moving on Sunday, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.920 it's kind of a death march is too strong of 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.120 a word. But it's not a lot of fun at 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.360 a PGA tour event, uh inside the ropes when you're 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.280 like T forty eight on a Sunday, you know, it's 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.480 kind of like very business like let's go home type thing, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.840 you know. Yeah, but I mean, like if you just 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.719 going back to the Maya Cooba leaderboard. Scottie Shuffler was 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.640 in thirty fifth place going into Sunday. He shot sixty two. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.680 He's tied for third. That's FedEx Cup points, that's Ryder 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.920 Cup points, that's World Ranking points. I mean, there's always 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.920 it gives you something. It gives us something to work 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.760 on and look forward to your next time. Ryan. Definitely, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.920 I've seen it, and and we we all know that 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.240 it's true. But I think it's more common that they're 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.600 gonna like, well, let's see if I can find something here. Yes, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.720 they're definitely some news where they just grind it out 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.160 and get home, but there are as some news that 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.720 they that they don't. Michael and I mean Alan I 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.000 think said it last week. I mean, Shamus Power is 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.439 one of the most consistent players in the world right now. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.600 That dude is going to be on the Ryder Cup team. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.680 Mike God, every time he's ease it up, he's in 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.319 he's in contention. It's funny how his his whole, his 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.360 whole trajectory has really accelerated. And I mean that Saturday's 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.000 sixty three was nuts, right, Yeah, he had an ace, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.800 he had a whole out um, he had an eagle 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.920 like he's he's not only as he consistent, but he's 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.480 he's kind of explosive, Like the guy's got another gear. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.880 It's it's impressive to see a young player put it 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.560 together the way he has. I agree he's making himself 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.959 a lock for for Rome. Which and as a reminder, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.480 I said it last week, but I'll say it again. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.760 Eighteen months ago I saw him on the range at 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.480 a Monday Cute and he was like, I just want 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:58.800 to get a few more starts so I get a 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.240 year added to my pension. Like he was in a 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.440 like bad place, like, oh, I'm gonna get fifteen starts, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.080 I'll go back to Q School, get good corn ferry 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.439 status and starts this whole process again. And here we are. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.000 I mean, it's wild. It's pretty wild, alright. So Maya 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.680 Cobe is where a lot of golf fans um are 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.320 paying attention. But for you, Ryan, I know the big 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.240 events is Q School. It's happening right now. It finishes 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.800 on Monday, um when this podcast will drop, so we 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.920 don't have we don't have the finished results, but set 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.200 up some of the intrigue that that's happening in at 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.080 Q School. I will hijack the rest of this podcast 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:40.000 because I swear I love this. Uh okay, real quick. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.680 Chan Kim is leading UH, and it would be very 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.400 interesting to see. He's obviously going to get his card. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.320 He's four strokes ahead and you have to finish in 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.400 the top forty to get guaranteed starts. But Jan Kim 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.720 had a very good careators on the state and just 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.840 hasn't been able to break through. Has played well though 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.440 in a few majors. I think it was like twenty 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.320 five or something in the p J champ Mean Ship 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.200 last year, something like that. But I think he has 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.360 seven wins in Japan and was in the top hundred 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.720 in the world at one time, and I think he's 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.640 like one now. But anyway he is. He has four 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.320 strokes ahead, so it'll be very interesting to see. But 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.480 I mean, Chris got her up is up there. Former 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:23.320 ncy A champion, UH, he's second Chase Seifert UH a 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.960 veteran UH. Jared so Watta, here's a great story at 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.400 Q school and then I'll let you guys get back 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:37.520 to talking. Jared Sawatta played at eight University Hawaii and 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.920 never had a scoring average better than seventy eight. Like 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.120 he should not have even teed it up in a 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.680 pro event. I mean, no one looked at his game 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.680 and thought, you know what, you should go play professionally. Uh. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:59.440 And for eleven years he uh like just grinded away 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.720 and he has an amazing record that you guys probably 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.080 don't know. But he's Monday qualified for the Sony in 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:10.560 Sony opened five times um, which is ridiculous. But he's 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.720 gonna get his card. I mean, he's within he's well 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.520 up the leaderboard, and that is insane that someone who 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.920 average basically eighty at college is going to play on 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:23.440 the second best tour in the United States. I love, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.400 I love to hear that. What I mean, we should 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.680 we should at least acknowledge. Um. The legend Spencer Levine, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.840 who going into the last round is he's tied for fifteen. Um. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.320 You know, he went he went low on the first round. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.400 He's kind of hanging out with a couple of seventy ones. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.040 He's he's dropping a little bit, but he's still there. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.120 I mean, well, right, let me ask you this, because 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.880 Levi pops up on Twitter and and people kind of 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:46.920 why do we love this guy? I mean, for the 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.840 fans who aren't totally tuned into the cults here. Yeah, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:55.280 I mean he is just such an honest dude. Uh. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.920 I mean I think most people was at the memorial 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.960 Guys Michael Memorial when he was shaking in the in 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.720 the thing, and yeah, I mean he just wears his 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.879 heart on his sleeve. He swears he's used to be 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.560 a smoker. He hasn't smoked a long time, but he 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.119 was one of the last guys who smoked regularly on 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.920 the course. Yeah, and I mean I think he just 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.840 he does not. I just think he like everybody can 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:25.879 relate to him in some sense. He's just a regular dude, nervous, ticky. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.400 Now he has a hockey, he does the happy Gilmore 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.080 uh putting stroke, you know. I mean it's ridiculous. It's 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.879 it's ridiculous and we all love him for it. Now. Really, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.399 a very important sidebar of him getting back to tour 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.440 is he's two cuts uh short of the two made 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.400 cuts short of getting his full pension on the PGA tour. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.800 So that dude is very motivated to get back to 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.240 the tour. Don't really have to achieve a hundred and 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.959 fifty made cuts, and he has a hundred I mean, 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.119 a hundred is a big number. And to me, it's 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.880 kind of wild that it's based I would think it'd 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.000 be based on starts as opposed to made cuts. I 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.840 think there's two ways that you can do it, I think, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.679 but I'm not positive about that. Yeah, we should dig 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.600 into that because that that's I know, the maid cuts 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.399 has always loomed large. And it seems like, you know, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.320 at IBM, it's like how many years did you work? 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.119 It's not how many computers did you sell? Like you know, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.199 you were there, you were punching the clock. You were 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.760 part of the show. And and to Peggett to actually 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.600 having him to perform in a certain way, maybe it's fair. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.600 Maybe it's a meritocracy. I don't know, but um as 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.680 a PG tour slides more and more to socialism. Just 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.800 given out half a million dollars to anyone who wants it. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.840 It's like it's an interesting it's an interesting wrinkle. Um, Michael, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.280 your favorite Spencer Levine story. No, I just I've enjoyed 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.280 watching him. You know, he was he ran really hot. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.520 He he smoked those servites right down to the nub. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.399 And uh, I'm glad he quit smoking. It's a nasty habit, 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.560 but it was kind of I think you can still 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.520 smoke on the course because I know I've seeing John 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.359 Daily do it, and maybe they just know how to 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:05.520 Shan Kim Jan Kim is a big vapor. Uh huh okay, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:12.320 real quick on um. A guy that I posted about yesterday. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.440 His name is Chris. Chris, I'll go, I don't know, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:16.720 I don't know how to say his last name. But 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.920 he went bogey free except for one hole he shot 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.719 a seventy four. He went bogey free and shot seventy 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:31.680 four with a thirteen thirteen. Uh. That means he played 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.440 the other holes six under, played seventeen holes six under, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.119 and shot seventy four. When it first posted, it was 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.359 posted as a seventeen because the poor live score is 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.560 this guy was pepper ring balls out of bounce, and 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.320 I mean pepper ring balls out abound. The live score 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.960 had no idea what had happened. Uh. Evidently pop he 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.920 peppered four oh b before getting one in play. Well 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.920 that was remember when when Kevin Na made his fourteen 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.879 at the Texas Open and they had to have a 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.400 pow wow to replay all the strokes because he lost 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.159 track of it. It was happening so fast, and he 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.919 was he was slashing away in the forest. His caddy 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.119 was rattled like they had to watch the tape, I 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.520 think to make sure they got it right. So I 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.720 pitied the score. But yeah, well, sometimes in a pro 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:20.639 event when it gets a little sideways in the and 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.679 the live score has a lot of stress, I mean 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.040 we can all sense the stress of like what ball 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.200 is that? What the and that is obviously like very 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.120 rarely it's more than one ball, you know. Uh yeah, 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.399 I mean this dude fired six off the tee. The 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.200 fifth one happened to be in bounds. Evidently that dude 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:42.560 fired six balls, and that live score just sweating bullets. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.960 I mean, there is no way you're not He marked 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.159 it down as a seventeen, and what's close it was 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.560 a thirteen. It's it's hard to keep track after a while. 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.800 We've all been there. Um. But you know, on on 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.480 the other end of a really famous one, uh. I 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:04.359 think the ten that Woods made on twelve at Augusta. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.760 I think the area was defending and then he went 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.200