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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Welcome to bro Pad with Dan Henry. Y'all
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Speaker 1: straight to you. You all you a little different intro
Speaker 1: for y'all this this week. Yep, bro Pod coming at you.
Speaker 1: Why are why why are.
Speaker 3: We not calling it the Bronus episode.
Speaker 1: Bron because it's not a Bronus episode.
Speaker 3: This is a still bro Nest.
Speaker 1: But this is a this is like a regular Tuesday episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not gonna be a video element with this one.
Speaker 1: So we're just, uh, we're just we're just rocking with it,
Speaker 1: kind of freestyling man freestyle. Yeah, kind of had some
Speaker 1: guests fall off that we couldn't get in damn with
Speaker 1: on vacation. We were hunting for a few days. Then
Speaker 1: we flew down to New Orleans. It was just crazy.
Speaker 1: JazzFest was nuts, dude. I probably need to talk about that.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, man, like I don't love New Orleans.
Speaker 3: I never really have too. Voo dooy too too tricky,
Speaker 3: too voo doo. I'm just tricky ricky down to Look.
Speaker 3: I love the musical element and I love the food element.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bros, crawfish, that's about it, dude. I don't really,
Speaker 1: I don't really. Yeah, it's a super super artsy place.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is for me. It's too artsy
Speaker 1: for me. I'm just as it's just different, man, I'm
Speaker 1: meeting dude. Well, right, I mean, we're we're we're we're southern.
Speaker 1: We're good old boys, country brednecks, and that New Orleans
Speaker 1: is not that.
Speaker 3: All that to say. We jumped in, uh with Luke
Speaker 3: and got to go down there and watch him play
Speaker 3: jazz Fest and he played Preservation Hall.
Speaker 1: That was sick, dude. I had no clue about it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know what Preservation Hall is, go
Speaker 1: look it up. It was a it's like this old
Speaker 1: house and they started this like house band in the sixties,
Speaker 1: like sixty one or something like that. And now they've
Speaker 1: in it's own, like Bourbon Street. It's just downtown New Orleans,
Speaker 1: I guess, not not downtown, but Bourbon Street whatever that is.
Speaker 1: And uh, they've they've like turned this house and preserved it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't even really call it a house.
Speaker 3: It's more like it's because it's down to it's.
Speaker 1: In the anymore. Well, I mean we were sitting in
Speaker 1: bedrooms back there in the green room with those guys.
Speaker 1: Those were their bedrooms. One of the guys that was
Speaker 1: in the band, the tuba player, that was his house.
Speaker 1: He grew up here.
Speaker 3: That is true. He did say that.
Speaker 1: And so like this band they play every night, there's
Speaker 1: a house band every night and there's like sixty players
Speaker 1: that rotate in and out. But some of these guys
Speaker 1: playing their grandfathers and fathers started this, this jazz band,
Speaker 1: and now it's one of the most renowned. I mean,
Speaker 1: Luke just did it. And when we say like small room,
Speaker 1: eighty people get to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But that courtyard was cool though. You remember you
Speaker 3: remember the courtyard, that's where we stood. And the sound
Speaker 3: was great out there. Man, that was awesome.
Speaker 1: The video they had the video, but look like a movie.
Speaker 3: Here's a little exclusive that we're gonna take you all
Speaker 3: into because if you ask me, the sound check.
Speaker 1: We're just jumping into this episode. By the way, this
Speaker 1: is we're rocking for. The sound check was better than
Speaker 1: no doubt the show to me. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give you a little taste of what
Speaker 3: happened when we got there. Luke Goes in the band
Speaker 3: is literally walking in off the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, showing up like just kind of popping in. And
Speaker 1: so you'll hear it's Luke's already sound checking and some
Speaker 1: of the Horns guys are getting there as he sound
Speaker 1: checking and just jumped diving into the song.
Speaker 3: I just want y'all to hear because I just I
Speaker 3: don't even know if I'm supposed to take video of this,
Speaker 3: but I snuck a little video. You know. I didn't
Speaker 3: post it because I was scared, like maybe they come
Speaker 3: after me. But I'm gonna play it because I want
Speaker 3: you to hear these guys. This is the first time
Speaker 3: they've ever played.
Speaker 1: Is this kind of love? Should I do? Kind of love? Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Is this kind of our song? He did four songs.
Speaker 1: Check this out. Listen to the horns just start popping. Kurt
Speaker 1: played slide with go here, come.
Speaker 3: I'll see this horn stop popping in.
Speaker 1: Here, the bass come here, bass starts quack, piano getting loose.
Speaker 1: One of the Neville one of the nevill guys was
Speaker 1: playing the keys.
Speaker 3: Here a guitar, blacker kill.
Speaker 4: And in this sound check there's maybe twelve people in
Speaker 4: this room. Anyway, it was bro and Luke wasn't even
Speaker 4: trying to, Like I think it almost we know him
Speaker 4: and what I'm saying. He went into something in that
Speaker 4: soundshaw like he was doing whole He did that whole
Speaker 4: song and it's because like eyes were closed. It was
Speaker 4: like he's playing a stadium, because I mean the group
Speaker 4: there's like the where those horns took you man, and
Speaker 4: you could tell, like we.
Speaker 3: Explain, I need to explain a little bit though, because
Speaker 3: it's hard to understand. It's hard to understand what we're
Speaker 3: talking about if you don't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is Luke's band is great,
Speaker 3: Like he is a great band. Luke Studio players are
Speaker 3: literally the best players in the world. These guys are
Speaker 3: the top one percent of jazz players and the planet
Speaker 3: and the planet, and so when you bring them a song,
Speaker 3: you could tell even in the as you're listening and
Speaker 3: you're not even in the business or even really no music,
Speaker 3: you can feel that warmth start coming through as the
Speaker 3: song progressed. Right, Well, what you're what you're feeling there
Speaker 3: is these players finding their pocket and finding their groove
Speaker 3: and their rhythm, and they swing a whole lot harder
Speaker 3: than your average country band. I'm sorry, then you're above
Speaker 3: average country band right there. Their feel is so much
Speaker 3: more jazz influenced, which is which is more feel than country. Yeah,
Speaker 3: than technical, so still extremely technical. I mean they know,
Speaker 3: of course, they knew what they were doing, but there's
Speaker 3: such a I mean jazz, there's an emotion, there's an
Speaker 3: emotion to it. It's based on on feel and essentially
Speaker 3: ad living as a as a musician, right, And so
Speaker 3: you're hearing the horns develop their parts and kind of
Speaker 3: pop in like Okay, here's the chords we want to hit,
Speaker 3: and then maybe saxophone takes a run here, maybe trumpet
Speaker 3: kind of does a thing here, and that's not a
Speaker 3: normal sound for country music.
Speaker 1: So it was very I think it was.
Speaker 3: Inspiring to hear his songs kind of like revamped, and
Speaker 3: it also put him in a spot to where like
Speaker 3: he wanted to sing man, Yeah, he wanted to perform
Speaker 3: and that was fun.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the instrument with the sliding trombone?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: What too? But yeah, the trombone. Those trumpbone players were
Speaker 1: like the the like gassing it down over on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was I was. We didn't even get to go in.
Speaker 1: It was so packed when they did, like the main show.
Speaker 1: But just sliding in there and watching sound check was
Speaker 1: probably one of the coolest. I mean, especially to hear
Speaker 1: him play kind of Love. I think I was standing
Speaker 1: beside Harp and he was like how that man, and
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, Honestly, this is probably one of
Speaker 1: the coolest moments in my musical like professional career.
Speaker 3: It was nice.
Speaker 1: Was sitting there seeing those guys pick up a song
Speaker 1: that you know, we helped pen And and Luke sing it.
Speaker 1: It was it was sick, man, It was sick.
Speaker 3: If you had a chance down there, oh for sure.
Speaker 1: But even if you don't know what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: just YouTube and yeah, yeah, no, I think you like,
Speaker 1: I think that that courtyard, I think you just get
Speaker 1: in like that's field.
Speaker 3: But I think you have to buy tickets way earlier,
Speaker 3: so I don't think you can just pop in there
Speaker 3: that night.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a bluebird thing for us, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's like the actual eighty
Speaker 1: seat thing or the courtyard whereverybody.
Speaker 3: Was anyway, if you had to check, there's not going
Speaker 3: to be a bad night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Even just read about the history of it is
Speaker 1: super cool. Man.
Speaker 3: Think Dave Matthews played like that, not before of us anyway, until.
Speaker 1: Rubber Plant was in there that same way, rubber Plant,
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews and LC.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So all that's say, New Orleans is very cool.
Speaker 1: Uh jazz fish, yeah, bumping it was cool man.
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of Crawfish and Proaggator and that stuff.
Speaker 1: Was listening to Marvel's already played before, uh before Luke
Speaker 1: the Castlos We were before Luke and that was cool man.
Speaker 1: Just walking around and seeing like you had, you know,
Speaker 1: mainstream country on one stand one stage, and then you
Speaker 1: walked over and you saw like a Ray Gay band
Speaker 1: or a jazz band.
Speaker 3: That heritage stage was cool. They were playing jazz all
Speaker 3: day long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some other Jone Jett was playing the same time
Speaker 1: Luke was playing on another maiden main stage. People everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was sick.
Speaker 3: Then we popped, uh popped pop pop a little.
Speaker 1: Did I left my detel? I left my pillow in
Speaker 1: New Orleans at that hotel. Yeah, I thought you were
Speaker 1: getting back. Well, I hung up on him the first
Speaker 1: time because it was so She was like yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like, how do I get it back? She was like,
Speaker 1: send me an email. I was like, what's your email adress?
Speaker 1: She was like, b e I in. I couldn't say so,
Speaker 1: And we were about to go turkey hunting and so
Speaker 1: bennye benye a Marriott and so anyway, I hung up
Speaker 1: on her. But then I was I bought a new
Speaker 1: pillow and tried to sleep on it. Here my pillows elite,
Speaker 1: So I'm getting it back.
Speaker 3: What are you doing with your other pillow?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it back? What was it? It was
Speaker 1: supposed to be like I just typed in best pillows.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was the purple thing.
Speaker 1: Was No, that's the one we got at the lodge.
Speaker 1: It Yeah, it was good, a little soft. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not as cool as uh as.
Speaker 3: It was pretty cold man, that pillow was cold? Is
Speaker 3: that what you're going for?
Speaker 1: Like? Cold? Yes?
Speaker 3: I need structure.
Speaker 1: I need support, cold and support. That's what this Because
Speaker 1: my head is so big. But Jordan I was like hey.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, let's just get another pillow.
Speaker 1: She was like, the ones we got I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: le's just go get it. She's like it's like two
Speaker 1: hundred some dollars and I was like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: just going and getting another one of those. When I
Speaker 1: can go make a create a label for thirty bucks
Speaker 1: and send it to him, they'll ship it to me.
Speaker 1: Create a label. I had to go to ups and
Speaker 1: create a So are they sending it to Yeah, they
Speaker 1: sending to me. They had it after a week they
Speaker 1: found it, well, they found it the night after we
Speaker 1: left because they just kept it for a week at
Speaker 1: the front desk. Dang, that's awesome. They're like the black
Speaker 1: one with the silk and I was like, that's it. Man.
Speaker 3: They should have told that to that home. Hopefully they
Speaker 3: don't listen to this podcast. Maybe they sent sent before then. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So then we went Turkey Hutton and chasing Rio's and man,
Speaker 3: that was probably well, you know what there should we
Speaker 3: answer questions to get into this or should we just go.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about turkeys for the rest
Speaker 1: of it, we could talk about that trip for the
Speaker 1: rest of them. And I think we need to touch on
Speaker 1: because we hadn't really talked about this is the first
Speaker 1: time me and you have done a podcast since Turkey
Speaker 1: scene started, and we have have had tons of great hunts,
Speaker 1: tons that we hadn't talked about. We really hadn't talked
Speaker 1: about it. Maybe we should just go Maybe we just
Speaker 1: go turkey hunting Turkey season, okay? Or should we answer
Speaker 1: some questions?
Speaker 3: Well, that's gonna take us there anyway. So maybe we could.
Speaker 1: Kill a couple of birds one shot. Okay, random, this
Speaker 1: is not turkey. We're gonna jump in the fan questions here.
Speaker 1: We're just gonn answer two or three. Then we'll get
Speaker 1: into the turkey once.
Speaker 3: Okay, what keeps you inspired musically hunting?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about life? That's the question. What
Speaker 1: keeps you inspired?
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 3: There's probably a musical yeah, probably element to that.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what. There are seasons of being a songwriter.
Speaker 3: And at the beginning, I feel like my inspiration was
Speaker 3: I felt like I had something to say, right, Like
Speaker 3: I I felt like I had and I still do.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is there there are seasons that
Speaker 3: passes and goes, and sometimes there there isn't inspiration, right.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of those times. So for me, it's like,
Speaker 1: especially in these days when I look at the first
Speaker 1: front end.
Speaker 3: When I look at the front end of my career,
Speaker 3: I was inspired a lot, and I think it was
Speaker 3: because I was mega hungry to to prove myself as
Speaker 3: a writer and to uh to get what I had
Speaker 3: in me out right. And then there's also now I
Speaker 3: would say, well, there's different seasons through that throughout the thing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it was a girl. Sometimes it was my wife
Speaker 3: after But no, I'm saying I was writing songs before
Speaker 3: I met my wife. Yeah, sometimes it was a girl.
Speaker 1: It's not yet now, it's not about now.
Speaker 3: It's not about a girl. It's about my wife. And
Speaker 3: you know, you have kids in that element. Sometimes you're
Speaker 3: inspired by the woods. Sometimes you're inspired by my dad.
Speaker 3: Sometimes he says really dumb things and then something somethings
Speaker 3: he says. It's it's like it's almost like when he's
Speaker 3: trying to give me a song idea, it's never a
Speaker 3: great idea, but when he was just talking, but when
Speaker 3: he's just being a human, I get stuff from him
Speaker 3: all the time. I think that's tough to understand. Uh,
Speaker 3: we get that asked a lot. Where the songs come from,
Speaker 3: and sometimes it is work. Sometimes you just make it happen.
Speaker 3: But also, and that's the cool thing about being a
Speaker 3: co writer and why I feel like we have to
Speaker 3: do it is because the other person in the room
Speaker 3: can and you can like feed on that inspiration and go,
Speaker 3: oh man, that meant something to you. Let's do that
Speaker 3: or just.
Speaker 1: Write it, just ride that inspiration, coattail to the finish
Speaker 1: line of that song and do something for sure.
Speaker 3: So so so there's there's there's multiple ways. As as
Speaker 3: far as like staying inspired. I can't say that I
Speaker 3: stay inspired all the time.
Speaker 1: But I think anybody that tells you that would be
Speaker 1: they be lying. So for me, it's really just far
Speaker 1: anything game.
Speaker 3: Amen. I know this is so cliche, but it's like
Speaker 3: it's family and woods probably for me that really keep
Speaker 3: me that And just like the human spirit, I do.
Speaker 3: I enjoy people's stories. My wife says that all the time.
Speaker 3: She's like, man, you talk to everybody, and I do.
Speaker 3: And if I'm sitting beside you on an airplane, there's
Speaker 3: a good chance unless my kids are screaming in my face.
Speaker 3: I like to know where people are from and what
Speaker 3: makes them tick, and why they're alive and why they're
Speaker 3: traveling to destin or wherever, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: I think communication is a big way to stay inspired.
Speaker 3: I think just being in the woods is a big
Speaker 3: way to be inspired. I could segue into a turkey
Speaker 3: hunt from here, okay, And then I think my family
Speaker 3: inspires me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in my faith that inspires me to
Speaker 1: yeah you oh, I mean all that. It's the same,
Speaker 1: it's the same, you know. I feel like that's probably
Speaker 1: if a songwriter was to get in here and say
Speaker 1: that would probably be a lot of the answers. I
Speaker 1: think something that inspires me, and this is this is
Speaker 1: random at random times, but other music inspires me most
Speaker 1: of the time. I don't listen to any music because
Speaker 1: it we're so engulfed and it's so involved when we're
Speaker 1: creating it every day, where songs like this inspire you
Speaker 1: do it one more time, mom, Now that inspires my
Speaker 1: three year old. I'm two year old.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good on the look for just learning good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, man, I mean and listen, we write
Speaker 1: country music, and there are times that I'll throw on
Speaker 1: you know, pop music, rock music, jazz music, like like
Speaker 1: it just keeping just keeping the wheels, tournament and and
Speaker 1: the and the the brain engaged, and how other genres
Speaker 1: are doing it and other people are writing songs, and
Speaker 1: how other people are turning hooks, and yeah, listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of I listened to that Bentley's and uh
Speaker 1: beer Bo.
Speaker 3: That Bill Bill Bongs, Bill Bongs and Bentley whatever it
Speaker 3: is while I was working with the playhouse today, just
Speaker 3: to go back and maybe going cycle.
Speaker 1: We listened you know what we listened last night? He'd
Speaker 1: be Hiding? Is that little yachty, Little Yachty?
Speaker 3: That's old rap now, yeah, I know, I mean like
Speaker 3: the guys I'm listening to in the gym key glog.
Speaker 1: I got into rap the rap life thing the other
Speaker 1: day and listened to all the young Gunna and all
Speaker 1: those guys.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna gon, sorry, you're talking about young, the.
Speaker 1: Young the but yeah, man, but and then other than that,
Speaker 1: the going back to the question that people people say, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: how what do you how do how do you write
Speaker 1: a song? Or how do you even start? And I
Speaker 1: always tell people like, man, if me and you are
Speaker 1: writing a song, and and I was like, man, what
Speaker 1: you know you got anything, got any ideas? And you said,
Speaker 1: oh man, I was. I was talking with my buddy
Speaker 1: last week, and he said, like, YadA, YadA, YadA. I
Speaker 1: put in my phone. I read, he reads the title out,
Speaker 1: the idea out, and that to him could mean something
Speaker 1: completely different than it means to me. But it could
Speaker 1: inspire me to lock into you know, a a core
Speaker 1: memory or a thought. Yeah, and expound on that and
Speaker 1: boom and you know, maybe in an hour, maybe in
Speaker 1: a few different writing sessions, you've got a complete thought
Speaker 1: on a song. Next question, what keeps you inspired? I
Speaker 1: like this one, this one comes. Yeah, I'm buying my
Speaker 1: first gear and tackle box. We'll be fishing lakes in
Speaker 1: the southeast. What I need, bro, let me give it
Speaker 1: to you straight, go get it. Look, it's May, we're
Speaker 1: not talking about early April.
Speaker 3: It's nice.
Speaker 1: So what do I do we talk about right now
Speaker 1: or the I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Think you should Okay, now, you're right, you should do
Speaker 3: an overview of what you need in tackle box and
Speaker 3: then maybe do specifically right now and then at.
Speaker 1: The end, let me just start the season. Let me
Speaker 1: just go from like left to right from if you're
Speaker 1: fishing and all right, but if we're gonna get more questions,
Speaker 1: we gotta keep it pump yeah, yeah, okay, Uh January.
Speaker 1: Don't fish in January if if you're just starting out
Speaker 1: unless you want to. They're gonna be slow, They're not
Speaker 1: gonna be biting. It's gonna be really tough. If you're
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be fishing January, go down to Okachobe
Speaker 1: and you can smash them on on ah just throwing
Speaker 1: lily pads and stuff in the southeast the beginning of March.
Speaker 1: This is really like the first year that I dove
Speaker 1: into this kind of theory and kind of learned this thing.
Speaker 1: But in the beginning March, when water temps are getting
Speaker 1: mid forties, getting into the fifties, crawfish are beginning to
Speaker 1: shed their exterior shell and they're putting on that new shell.
Speaker 1: So when they when they shed that one in the
Speaker 1: in middle March, tim water TIMPs about fifty degrees, they
Speaker 1: shed that hard exterior old exoskeleets exoskeleton nice. And when
Speaker 1: they do that, they're they're soft, and they're they're a
Speaker 1: really bright red and Dude.
Speaker 3: I read that this year, it sounds like that, sounds
Speaker 3: like you're at the beach, just soft and red.
Speaker 1: It's soft, really soft and red.
Speaker 3: If bass went to the beach, they would eat you.
Speaker 1: Destroy me, especially the middle of March. How many bass
Speaker 1: did we catch on those on those shallow diving one
Speaker 1: and a half XD's this is a Kevin Davan dam.
Speaker 1: But uh a crank a crawfish bright red crank ba
Speaker 1: three hours mid March. You want to crank bait. They're
Speaker 1: they're they're getting hungry, they're getting there. Go with a
Speaker 1: you can you can throw the spinner bait, you know,
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 3: That's it's been five minutes and you've only done January March.
Speaker 3: That's March getting into April. Water temps are still getting up.
Speaker 3: You can still throw.
Speaker 1: I would move on to like a minnow of the
Speaker 1: shad are starting to to to shout out, I guess,
Speaker 1: and I would just get at just a shallow run
Speaker 1: crank bait for shad uh shadows silver and black, I
Speaker 1: mean really anything silver and blue, anything that shines in
Speaker 1: the laws like a red. Always like a red crank well,
Speaker 1: I mean not a red, but not when you're throwing shad. Know,
Speaker 1: when you're throwing for shads silver and red, or when
Speaker 1: you're trying to replicate shad silver and black, you'll smash
Speaker 1: right now. Put you on go get you a bag
Speaker 1: of r zoom, baby brush hog, the six inch, put
Speaker 1: it on a three out hook Texas, rig it and
Speaker 1: go pitch logs and would bound test. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're pitching, I would do nothing less than twenty and
Speaker 1: you can go spider or whatever. But that, uh, that
Speaker 1: that new like monofilament they're making is great too. Anything
Speaker 1: that will disappear in the water column, baby brush hog,
Speaker 1: a lizard, green pumpkin, little red flake, purple flake, pitch wood.
Speaker 1: Right now, the water temps maybe in the seventies and
Speaker 1: bro at the high sixties, and you will you will
Speaker 1: rip fish out of the lake all day long, all right,
Speaker 1: fall go fall. I love it. I love a like
Speaker 1: an October September October. That water TIMPs trying to flip.
Speaker 1: Still still got some hot days. You're still getting some
Speaker 1: cold days, so they're still staying in that top water column.
Speaker 1: I love a I love a black top water spinning
Speaker 1: bait or what's it called.
Speaker 3: I like the baby bays too, popper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pop the pauper is great too, but like
Speaker 1: a black and with a blue you know, flashy crawl dude,
Speaker 1: of what am I the one that now chatter bait
Speaker 1: stays under anyway, it's a top water bait. I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I can't think of that right now. But that's what
Speaker 1: you need in the southeast. But if you're trying to
Speaker 1: fish right now, if you just bought go get baby
Speaker 1: brush hogs and go uh go pitch go pitch wood,
Speaker 1: you'll catch fish. All right, Let's get into turkey hunt
Speaker 1: because we get we're going to talk for the rest
Speaker 1: of this. I like this question, and this is going
Speaker 1: to lead into a lot of stuff. This is coming
Speaker 1: for sure, man, underscore Andre, so sure, man, Andre. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite time to hunt for turkey's morning or afternoon?
Speaker 1: And what are some of the most deadly turkey tips?
Speaker 1: Love your podcast, keep up the good work. Hey, thanks Dray,
Speaker 1: Thanks Drey. I ain't forgot about you. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: time to hunt for turkey's morning or afternoon?
Speaker 3: Morning?
Speaker 1: Yeah, morning, everybody knows. Yeah, there's some guys that will
Speaker 1: that will.
Speaker 3: Now. Look, I do love a midday loan Goblin glar.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's it's almost over. It's almost over if
Speaker 1: you if you go on Goblin midday by himself at least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's so many let's start with our season.
Speaker 1: It's very situational. I think there's not like just a
Speaker 1: list of go into the woods and do this, this, this,
Speaker 1: this this, and you're gonna have better success.
Speaker 3: Here's what I would say about morning hunt. If I
Speaker 3: know that I that I've got a spot that has
Speaker 3: birds and there's a good chance of me getting on
Speaker 3: a roost bird, that this is a talk that I'm
Speaker 3: talking about this like I haven't gone to stop.
Speaker 1: No good, Oh God, looks I can stop.
Speaker 3: Uh if we're talking about going to a place where
Speaker 3: I know we have birds and we didn't, we're not
Speaker 3: roosting them the night before, which honestly, bro wink got
Speaker 3: no time for that. Anyway, these days you kind of
Speaker 3: have to just wing it at this point, with our
Speaker 3: kids going to bed so late, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We just kind of get in the area.
Speaker 3: And so we get into an area. Prime example of
Speaker 3: this was our opening morning hunt, Me and reading our
Speaker 3: dad pop down to a farm and uh literally left
Speaker 3: at like four that morning, bombed a couple hours and
Speaker 3: uh got down.
Speaker 1: There, yeah, and and and and had an idea where
Speaker 1: the birds would probably be.
Speaker 3: And as we got in there really early, sure enough
Speaker 3: we were somewhat surrounded. And by surrounded, I mean we
Speaker 3: had three birds goblin triangulating kind of where we were
Speaker 3: set up. It was a pretty pretty great spot to
Speaker 3: be in. Yeah, and so uh so we've got birds
Speaker 3: on the roost. What you're trying to do? Uh in
Speaker 3: that situation, Like you said, it's very situational. In that situation,
Speaker 3: I think all you want to do is find the
Speaker 3: gobbler that's not with hens.
Speaker 1: Right early season, these birds are gonna be roosted with hens.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have hens around them. The hens are gonna
Speaker 1: be talking to them. They're gonna know which ones are there,
Speaker 1: which ones are not. And Yeah, what Dan's saying is
Speaker 1: is continue to get a bird goblin and and and
Speaker 1: birds are gonna gobble more when they're on the roost,
Speaker 1: when they're just waking up, they're gonna start goblin. They're
Speaker 1: gonna gobble more until they hit the ground when they
Speaker 1: when they when they fly down and hit the ground.
Speaker 1: If they've got hens with them, most of the turkeys
Speaker 1: are gonna shut up. But there might be that one,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that two pack that continues to gobble. And
Speaker 1: if you if you've continually got a goblin berg after
Speaker 1: he gobbles at you on the roost, and he flies
Speaker 1: and he's looking for a mate. He's looking, he's looking
Speaker 1: for him, And as.
Speaker 3: Long as you're not ripping the hell out of your
Speaker 3: lynch box call, you can you can play the game
Speaker 3: with that bird. But my thing is, I heard an
Speaker 3: old man told me this one time and I've lived
Speaker 3: on it, is you basically need to be doing what
Speaker 3: you hear the other hens doing. So if they're aggressively
Speaker 3: calling as soon as they hit the ground, that's probably
Speaker 3: what you need to be. Probably not as much as
Speaker 3: they are, but you need to be in the ballpart
Speaker 3: of what that hen's doing. If the hens hit the
Speaker 3: ground and they're not saying anything, then you better super light,
Speaker 3: not aggressive, just kind of you know, some tree ups
Speaker 3: here and there, maybe some person clucks a little sleigh
Speaker 3: pull just to kind of you want to sound like
Speaker 3: a turkey man. You don't want to sound like that
Speaker 3: crazy desperate turkey going nuts that these birds had never
Speaker 3: heard before, unless he's gobbling at everything you throw at
Speaker 3: him and then you just pull him on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it changes too early season what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, maybe definitely any hunt, but it changes
Speaker 1: when you can see the turkey if you if you're
Speaker 1: hammering box called he's off. You can't seem, but you
Speaker 1: hear him, and he sounds like he's coming. Let him come,
Speaker 1: lay off a little bit until he gobbles again. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't sound like he's made any movement, game coming.
Speaker 1: And then when you see him, that's when the game
Speaker 1: really starts.
Speaker 3: I mean it depends once again. This is such a
Speaker 3: situational are we talking you know you're talking decoys, No decoys.
Speaker 3: It's kind of up to you. I would say this
Speaker 3: if you're a beginning turkey hunter, decoys are a great
Speaker 3: way to pull a bird in cloube and kind of
Speaker 3: keep that bird from staring you down. Now, it is
Speaker 3: super fun for us to not use decoys and to
Speaker 3: try to trick the bird into coming in within shotgun
Speaker 3: range searching for the hen that's making the noise.
Speaker 1: But it's also real fun for us to and this
Speaker 1: is a great early season decoy set up one hen,
Speaker 1: one half struck jake. Any dominant bird that sees that,
Speaker 1: Any subdominant long beard that sees that and sees a
Speaker 1: jake with a hen when he don't have one is
Speaker 1: gonna have a problem with that. Yeah, and so it's
Speaker 1: also fun to throw those out in a road bed
Speaker 1: and sit off twenty yards, fifteen yards, ten yards, soft
Speaker 1: com pull and soft call that joker into the decoy
Speaker 1: set and watch him flog the hell out of that
Speaker 1: jake and then put a three and a half in
Speaker 1: his head.
Speaker 3: So to answer that, early morning is arguably our favorite
Speaker 3: time to hunt. But I don't really like hunt birds
Speaker 3: going back to the roost. I don't love that. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I'm out somewhere and we.
Speaker 1: Have I'm not mad at him enough to do that either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not either.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But what I what I do love is going
Speaker 3: on just like a day hike and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: hitting some calls here in there and have one pop. Now,
Speaker 3: can I get into my store? Yes?
Speaker 1: But this is this is this is setting up a
Speaker 1: great deadly tip. As Dan's saying, these birds are gonna
Speaker 1: fly off the roost, They're gonna mate with their hens,
Speaker 1: They're gonna hang on to them for as long as
Speaker 1: they can in the morning, and then when they're done
Speaker 1: with that, those hens are going to break off from
Speaker 1: them and go sit. And then that's when ten o'clock
Speaker 1: ten thirty, those those birds that have made it in
Speaker 1: the morning, will then again start looking for more Hens.
Speaker 3: Might not, God will. And you know what, one thing
Speaker 3: I've really so.
Speaker 1: The deadly tip is if you don't have any luck
Speaker 1: in the morning, you got all day, hang out, Go
Speaker 1: eat you some breakfast, go get you Papa McDonald's.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Take a little walk.
Speaker 3: My last hunt in Tennessee, nobody could go, re couldn't go.
Speaker 3: And I took just half a week off and I
Speaker 3: went to a spot we've got and I just decided
Speaker 3: I was going to make a day of it. I
Speaker 3: put chomps in my bag, I put protein shakes in
Speaker 3: my bag, I put two bottles of water, I put
Speaker 3: you know, some calls, my knife. I had everything, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just and I did. I parked
Speaker 3: at the top of the hill and just started walking
Speaker 3: and I got down there in time to hunt roosts.
Speaker 3: No birds, goblin anywhere. Unbeknownst to me, the grass had
Speaker 3: gotten real tall down there in the bottom and it
Speaker 3: was super wet, and there weren't birds anywhere. But it
Speaker 3: was just fun. This is a family place. Me and
Speaker 3: reading dad of hunted for years, and so it's kind
Speaker 3: of just nice. To be in the woods and walk
Speaker 3: around a little bit. And so I hunted there nothing.
Speaker 3: I walked probably another half mile, made some calls, nothing,
Speaker 3: and I just decided I was going to climb this ridge.
Speaker 3: And I climbed this super tall ridge and got set up.
Speaker 3: And by set up, I mean I just sat down
Speaker 3: and made some calls and nothing gobbled. And I called
Speaker 3: Read and was like, man, this place beautiful, you know.
Speaker 3: And I remember you were in the truck going to
Speaker 3: play golf that day and you were like, just let
Speaker 3: the just put it on speakerphone and let me hear
Speaker 3: the birds.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was playing golf, you were playing. I was
Speaker 1: playing golf.
Speaker 3: I thought you were in your truck.
Speaker 1: On oh maybe maybe yeah, maybe that morning.
Speaker 3: You and so uh, it's just such a fun time
Speaker 3: to be in the woods. And it was like, fifty
Speaker 3: five degrees are the best? Maybe sixty five in the
Speaker 3: hottest part of the day. No, that's wrong. It was
Speaker 3: what it was sixty five degrees because it was eight
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, nine o'clock in the morning. So
Speaker 3: I kept walking and I went on down to a
Speaker 3: food plot we have and I called around the food plot.
Speaker 3: Nothing and I was like, man, I'm just gonna my
Speaker 3: my My feet were soaked because I had walked through
Speaker 3: that tall grass and got so wet. So I took
Speaker 3: my boots off and I opened them up and got
Speaker 3: some fresh in. I hung my socks up, and I
Speaker 3: just chilled ate of chumps, drank catoray, just kind of
Speaker 3: hung out there for a minute. About eleven o'clock. It
Speaker 3: was eleven o'clock. I looked at my watch and I
Speaker 3: was like, man, if I start hiking right now, I
Speaker 3: can hike these two ridges and be back to my
Speaker 3: truck by one thirty. Then I can fly to Ashville
Speaker 3: or to Columbia where we live, and I can be
Speaker 3: literally fly yeah yeah, drive, and I can be home
Speaker 3: an hour by four o'clock. My kids get home, you know,
Speaker 3: from school at three anyway, So I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get up and walk. So I started walking, and
Speaker 3: I'm coming up this clearing and I'm like, man, I
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't make it through this clearing before I hit
Speaker 3: a call. And and this is the deadly tip that
Speaker 3: I've been coming to. And this is probably not some
Speaker 3: secret information, but I'm realizing as the days start to
Speaker 3: heat up, because it was probably eighty at this point,
Speaker 3: getting into the eighties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to be up in the shade.
Speaker 3: They don't want to be out in the sun. Man,
Speaker 3: they don't know, and they'll bug and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But then these big old.
Speaker 1: Gods want to be down. I think that I don't
Speaker 1: think they want to be down in a holler. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think they want to be somewhere exposed to where
Speaker 1: winds coming through, where they're feeling, they're feeling some air mode.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't. I just know that they don't like
Speaker 3: sitting out in the sun, just like we don't like
Speaker 3: just baking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about feathers and heat, and I
Speaker 3: could be completely wrong with this, but it seems like
Speaker 3: over the past ten years, I've been noticing that that
Speaker 3: midday stuff usually takes place and in some shade, whether
Speaker 3: it's hardwoods or maybe like a pond bottom. I mean,
Speaker 3: they'll come out. I'm not saying they won't come out
Speaker 3: into a food plight to check something out, but it
Speaker 3: seems like predominantly their hens where they want to be.
Speaker 3: They want to be there. So as I'm coming up
Speaker 3: the hill, I'm going through this clearing and I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: if there was a bird on this ridge, he's going
Speaker 3: to be over that knob. And I was like, ah,
Speaker 3: wait till you get through the clearing. But my mind's
Speaker 3: telling me noe.
Speaker 1: And I was like.
Speaker 3: Up on this hill and I was like, son of
Speaker 3: a I knew this was going to happen. So I
Speaker 3: just take off dead sprint get to where I need
Speaker 3: to be. And this I just the only cover I
Speaker 3: could really find, cause it's in straight hardwoods. I mean
Speaker 3: there's like there ain't even no underbrush. I mean this
Speaker 3: keeping everything shade it out. Where I was was like
Speaker 3: some some of those canes, you know, like yeah, and
Speaker 3: I just popped into those canes. I sat down, saft
Speaker 3: called and I was like, oh, snap, they gotta be close.
Speaker 3: So I went ahead and got my gun up on
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 1: Goblin, A couple of goblin. How many were there?
Speaker 3: It was one bird goblin. So as I'm sitting there,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, these birds should be getting close if
Speaker 3: they're coming, you know. And I just kind of looked
Speaker 3: to my left, and when I did, I see it's
Speaker 3: like it was like three statues on top of some
Speaker 3: rooftop stairings. I mean They're probably ninety yards from me,
Speaker 3: straight through the hardwoods on like a probably like a
Speaker 3: fifty foot pitch straight. I mean they're just up.
Speaker 1: There on all on the top of a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was nothing I could do. I couldn't move,
Speaker 3: but they were all like this, just dead still staring
Speaker 3: right down where I was, and like the nervous hunter
Speaker 3: and me that sat next to his.
Speaker 1: Dad when had like shoot you shooting me seas.
Speaker 3: You know, wanted to like freak out with my gun
Speaker 3: around and launch one, and then it was like, wait, due.
Speaker 1: Not some video evidence of you this year shooting shooting shit?
Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, I kind of.
Speaker 1: That's another deadly tip is you can be again situational.
Speaker 1: You can be more patient than I think you think
Speaker 1: you can when your turkey.
Speaker 3: A lot of it because your dad shooting drilled anxiety
Speaker 3: into you in a long age that if you didn't
Speaker 3: do it right, then it was never happen. And honestly,
Speaker 3: that's been more fun to me now that the pressure
Speaker 3: is off of like killing turkeys, to just like let
Speaker 3: it be what it is.
Speaker 1: And if they walk off, man, who cares? I get
Speaker 1: to come back honey again? You know? Yeah, that rio
Speaker 1: will get into that example, I look up, these birds
Speaker 1: move left, they come back up the hill, and then
Speaker 1: they start moving right down the hill and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's over.
Speaker 3: They're going to come hit this long and road. Come
Speaker 3: check me out, done, see you later. But I think
Speaker 3: they were looking for a hen and there wasn't nothing there,
Speaker 3: and they were like, eh, this is kind of sketch,
Speaker 3: kind of sketch. So what I did was I pulled
Speaker 3: off the accelerator and stopped calling because as they're I
Speaker 3: know these birds are hearing if they're on that ridge
Speaker 3: and they're looking down at me, and I'm going, man, man, man, man, man,
Speaker 3: Well they can see where that should be coming from,
Speaker 3: and they don't see anything that they're not coming.
Speaker 1: It's another good point.
Speaker 3: It's like it's almost like having a girl going, hey,
Speaker 3: big boy, I'm I'm over here.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm right here, I'm right here, I'm right here.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking and I'm in the I'm in the
Speaker 3: freaking you know, food court, looking around at the mall
Speaker 3: and some girls screaming at me and I can't see her. Dude,
Speaker 3: I ain't going to check that. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: that's sketchy, and everything's trying to eat turkeys. Everything's not
Speaker 3: trying to eat me. In you, everything's trying to eat turkeys.
Speaker 3: So they're very like aware of what's happening. So you're
Speaker 3: trying to fool this bird, right, trying to pull what
Speaker 3: birds work down. Then get hit the logging road and
Speaker 3: then they just keep going. And I was like, what,
Speaker 3: I know, my calling was good? Like my calling was good.
Speaker 3: I was not, you know, I mean, I had them.
Speaker 3: They just walked. They started gobbling back down towards the
Speaker 3: foodlot where I was sitting. And I swear to I
Speaker 3: took a phone call. Eight minutes into that phone call.
Speaker 1: No, you hadn't called a single thing.
Speaker 3: Nope, not one thing. I look curious. I look back
Speaker 3: down the road and I see a I see a
Speaker 3: fan out at about one hundred yards, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh man, hey, I'll call you back. I gotta shoot.
Speaker 3: These birds are back. So I hunt real quick, and uh.
Speaker 3: They worked. They started working kind of up the long road,
Speaker 3: and I noticed he would he would go full strut,
Speaker 3: and then as he would come out of full strut,
Speaker 3: he would turn and go the other way. So I
Speaker 3: started watching him when he would full strut and be
Speaker 3: walking towards me and then stop and his feathers would
Speaker 3: come down. I'd hit him with it as light as
Speaker 3: I could possibly blow across the reeds of my call.
Speaker 3: I'm serious, as light as I could do it, and
Speaker 3: he could. He'd pop back up, keeping him engaged, and
Speaker 3: he would walk five to eight yards, and then he
Speaker 3: would stand there and stare, and as his feathers would
Speaker 3: go back down, boom, float back up five yards and
Speaker 3: I five yarded him all the way into twenty five
Speaker 3: yards and shot him. And man, for me, man, it
Speaker 3: was like I realized that we don't get to like
Speaker 3: hunt a whole lot by ourselves anymore, like it, I mean,
Speaker 3: and not that there's anything wrong. I love hunt with you.
Speaker 3: I wish you had been there that day. I wish
Speaker 3: Dad had been there that day. Circumstances worked out to
Speaker 3: where they couldn't. But man, it really gave me like
Speaker 3: this kind of introspective You can do it by yourself. No,
Speaker 3: I know I could do it.
Speaker 1: You didn't need me or Dad there to help you get.
Speaker 3: Don't even make me start saying statistically.
Speaker 1: Anyway, statistically sing statistically so so that there you off.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just trying to get back into my my
Speaker 3: groove here, and I mean going back to the questions,
Speaker 3: like what's inspiring, Like I got three song ideas that day,
Speaker 3: just walking around and being, you know, thinking of things
Speaker 3: and being and being inspired, like being in a place
Speaker 3: where my Because here's the thing, I love raising my kids.
Speaker 3: But when I'm raising my kids, I'm on. Somebody asked
Speaker 3: me the other day, you know what's the hardest thing
Speaker 3: about raising kids? And I says, it's being on all
Speaker 3: the time. And they're like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 3: What what happens if you're not on? And I said
Speaker 3: they die? And he was like what or break their legs?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, man, they can die. Like
Speaker 3: they sticking things in their mouth. They're always riding their
Speaker 3: four wheathers towards barbed wire. They're always like wanting to
Speaker 3: get knee deep in some ponds. And I love all that,
Speaker 3: but I'm telling you, you got to be on. Well
Speaker 3: when you're out there at time to think, No time
Speaker 3: to think, dude, ain't no time. And so out there
Speaker 3: you're off in your in your brain.
Speaker 1: That's all you got. It's time to think out there,
Speaker 1: it's all. And I knew that.
Speaker 3: I knew I had time that day, you know, so
Speaker 3: that's another thing that was very inspiring. And you know,
Speaker 3: I called read on the walk out and I had
Speaker 3: that turkey over my shoulder, and honestly, the like I
Speaker 3: thought about dragging your ten point out of that food
Speaker 3: plot down there in the bottom. I thought about when
Speaker 3: me and you slept in that camera and walked all
Speaker 3: the way over to that other place and I fell
Speaker 3: asleep and you're hitting me with sticks and you shot
Speaker 3: that bird if the bird was goblin, and I was,
Speaker 3: it was ten feet from my face and I was
Speaker 3: I couldn't raise up.
Speaker 1: Because that's shot.
Speaker 3: I think about us bringing that turkey back over that
Speaker 3: hilltop and it raining on us. The sun was out
Speaker 3: and it was raining on us, and I'm just And
Speaker 3: I even thought about when we cut that trail through
Speaker 3: those pines that day. And you know, man, when you're
Speaker 3: doing that, you're you're being teleported.
Speaker 1: Just some of the best moments.
Speaker 3: Five, ten, fifteen, twenty or twenty five years and it's
Speaker 3: and you can really only visual like have that clarity,
Speaker 3: the visual clarity of that.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: I can think about those moments anywhere, but they seem
Speaker 3: to be clearer when I'm in the element without other
Speaker 3: things to think about, and so it was. It was.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like a cleansing thing for me,
Speaker 3: man and I and it made me kind of fall
Speaker 3: in love with turkey hunting in a different way than
Speaker 3: I have in years past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what hunt by yourself does. Period.
Speaker 3: It's a special thing, man.
Speaker 1: It is just a lot of fun. Like you said,
Speaker 1: like you said, to a hunt with just somebody and
Speaker 1: share it with somebody. But just there is that sometimes
Speaker 1: where it is a it is a reset for me
Speaker 1: to go out there by myself and not even like
Speaker 1: try to get it done, just be out there myself.
Speaker 3: No, I had made my mind up. Just sit in
Speaker 3: the woods. I was not getting it done, and just
Speaker 3: sit in the woods. And it was still a great
Speaker 3: time and worth every penny I had to spend to
Speaker 3: get down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to the question, that is that's a
Speaker 1: mid day and that's kind of a hunt that didn't
Speaker 1: go exactly like that. The turkeys didn't read the script
Speaker 1: and come right in. They busted off. You get a
Speaker 1: phone call, you gave them time. They came back.
Speaker 3: Minutes, which every turkey hunter knows. That is a long time.
Speaker 3: It was forty five minutes from the time that bird gobbled. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was probably five minutes. He was on top of me,
Speaker 3: and then there were forty minutes of like play and dude,
Speaker 3: for me, that's that's it, Like that's a full full
Speaker 3: after that.
Speaker 1: Thing going into here. This is a hunt that just
Speaker 1: happened this last week when we were in the Middlewest
Speaker 1: hunting rios that the turkey's read the script and it
Speaker 1: was a twenty minute turkey hunt. Me, Dan and Luke
Speaker 1: knew these birds were in this area and Luke had
Speaker 1: a tag for this particular unit, so we took off
Speaker 1: mid day, didn't have any We hunted that morning with
Speaker 1: had a couple of Jakes come in and we've actually
Speaker 1: got a video of Jake's.
Speaker 3: Literally you may play it. I love that. I'd love
Speaker 3: to do it as fun.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they can't see it, yeah, but they
Speaker 1: can hear these things how much. At one point I
Speaker 1: turned to Luke and I was like, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have to punch that turkey
Speaker 1: in the throat.
Speaker 3: Well, I was calling and I knew they were a
Speaker 3: little punk jakes, and so I just kept I kept
Speaker 3: trying to bring them in as tired as I M sure.
Speaker 1: Sorry, they almost got blasted their goblin. H h.
Speaker 3: Dude, they were.
Speaker 1: I mean they were feet from us.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that's all right. I just keep going
Speaker 1: and then get into this point later. But uh so
Speaker 1: we we got done with that hunt, went back, had
Speaker 1: some breakfast, same thing we were talking about. Just gave
Speaker 1: these birds time to breed, to hent out, let the
Speaker 1: hens go sit, and then leave the garbage by themselves.
Speaker 1: So that's exactly what we did. We drove twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes to another farm we have access on and
Speaker 1: Luke had a tagging this unit and got into an
Speaker 1: area where we knew birds were. We were making our
Speaker 1: way into this section of the farm that we were
Speaker 1: going to set up in and just walking and not
Speaker 1: really talking. We were hunting, but we were just kind
Speaker 1: of getting to the spot. Crow flies over, man, man, man, man,
Speaker 1: and we all stop, just knowing that turkey's instinctly instinctively
Speaker 1: that's a great tip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were walking through the woods and a
Speaker 3: crow goes nuts, just stop and listen, because they can
Speaker 3: fire a bird up and then you immediately know location
Speaker 3: and you can get tired.
Speaker 1: Same on a thun a day that it's thundering, they'll
Speaker 1: they'll they'll gobble it air a train, they'll gobble it,
Speaker 1: tirs ambulance. Yeah, any kind that's called a shot gobble,
Speaker 1: and that is a local. And if you have a
Speaker 1: crow call on you, that's called a locator call. You're
Speaker 1: trying to get a bird of shot. God, dude, crows
Speaker 1: crow all day long, and turkey's gobble at them all
Speaker 1: day long. I love a crow call. I don't have
Speaker 1: I don't have a hootout call. I can't hoot out
Speaker 1: with my mouth very good. I wear a crow call
Speaker 1: in my in my turkey calls. That's all I got.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we stop crow you know, you last. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, of course you hear I.
Speaker 3: Think there he had a hit on those turkeys, and
Speaker 3: he was like, man, I'm about to get these guys
Speaker 3: out here. Yeah yeah, yeah, He's like, oh those jackasses
Speaker 3: down there, I'm gonna get these.
Speaker 1: So bird's gobbles. So we immediately look at each other
Speaker 1: and the and the quick the best thing to do
Speaker 1: in that moment is just get to a place where
Speaker 1: you can haunt them. Don't try to creep in further,
Speaker 1: don't don't try to you just just we had seedars
Speaker 1: all around us, big seedars. So we tucked into one,
Speaker 1: sat down, got everything set up. We didn't make a
Speaker 1: call yet. Don't when you're getting set up on a
Speaker 1: bird that's goblin. Don't make a call until you're ready
Speaker 1: to shoot that turkey because he can come in hunt.
Speaker 1: Because if you if you're that close to a bird,
Speaker 1: if you're fifty to one hundred yards from a bird
Speaker 1: and you call and he gobbles back at you, he
Speaker 1: could come out of strut and come straight to you
Speaker 1: and get there in thirty seconds. So sit down, And
Speaker 1: this is what we did. We sat down, got everything ready.
Speaker 1: Luke's you know, he's in He's in shooting position, so
Speaker 1: whatever ever. We looked around. Everybody's ready down and go
Speaker 1: soft calls from here on out. And I was like, yep,
Speaker 1: so I hit my mouth called one time. Just cut
Speaker 1: me off.
Speaker 3: Volume control is so important in turkey hunting. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's talked about enough. But if you are, let's
Speaker 3: take that situation. If we had just taken out a
Speaker 3: box and just ripped it right there, dude, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: gonna freak those turkeys.
Speaker 1: Out.
Speaker 3: You have to sound like a bird that is just
Speaker 3: strolling through the woods feeling pretty good, just like if
Speaker 3: you're if you walk through the woods having a great day,
Speaker 3: or maybe coming into work, and you.
Speaker 1: Just go so.
Speaker 3: That immediately, that immediately lets whoever hears that song know
Speaker 3: that I'm having a pretty good day.
Speaker 1: Roger Miller, I think so. Gosh, so my thing is
Speaker 1: like that all or Roger No, those things, Roger Miller.
Speaker 3: So like, what I'm trying to say is as a
Speaker 3: as a hen, you want to make the call that
Speaker 3: sounds like, Man, I'm just coming down this road here,
Speaker 3: buging a little bit. If anybody wants to holler at me,
Speaker 3: cool if not cool, I'm just having a decent time feeling,
Speaker 3: feeling myself.
Speaker 1: And doing it. Do it directionally. Don't when when turkeys
Speaker 1: are gobbling at you, coming at you, don't call at
Speaker 1: them like And what I say by that is, don't
Speaker 1: look at where the turkeys are goblin and scream at them.
Speaker 1: Turn your head, put your mouth, put your hand on
Speaker 1: your mouth, and throw that call away from them to
Speaker 1: sound like.
Speaker 3: And then maybe back at him, and then maybe away
Speaker 3: from him, and then but.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a turkey's farther away than what it was,
Speaker 1: which will maybe make them usually makes them react in
Speaker 1: a way of I'm gonna chase. They're almost chasing this
Speaker 1: turkey now coming, So that's what happens. I hit a
Speaker 1: little light, so I shut up because I know they
Speaker 1: are closer now than they were when that crow made
Speaker 1: them made them holler, so I know they've already cut
Speaker 1: the distance. So the crazy thing about this hunt is
Speaker 1: we're not really used to this farm we were hunting.
Speaker 1: So I kind of called the shot and was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: they're gonna come down this two track that we were
Speaker 1: just walking down. So let's let's get set up toward
Speaker 1: this under this seat or we got perfect cover, perfect backdrop,
Speaker 1: suns at the it's at the top of the day
Speaker 1: so it's like midday, so the sun shining right down,
Speaker 1: there's no shadows cast. It's a perfect setup. They're gonna
Speaker 1: come down this two track, Luke bust one. So I
Speaker 1: even said, there's no way they come behind us. Let's
Speaker 1: focus on this two track.
Speaker 3: Let me say this else. These milecalls have come a
Speaker 3: long way, dude.
Speaker 1: There ain't none, Dude. I noticed that turkey hunt for real.
Speaker 1: One now we just send us a picture the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so lo and behold. I make one little call again.
Speaker 1: I shut up. I know they're coming. I tell Elsie, hey,
Speaker 1: get ready, they're coming. Well, we're sitting there. A couple
Speaker 1: of minutes goes by, and I hear. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I can my hearing frequency. I can pick up on
Speaker 1: the frequency of a spinning and drumming really well. I
Speaker 1: can hear a turkey twenty thirty yards away. I can
Speaker 1: just hear it. And I don't know why. I always
Speaker 1: I've always been able to.
Speaker 3: Yea you have.
Speaker 1: And so we're sitting there watching the two track, and
Speaker 1: sure enough, from the direction I said, they're not gonna come,
Speaker 1: I hear, and I looked at Dan, I looked at Elsie.
Speaker 1: I said, I just heard a bird spit and drawn.
Speaker 1: But he was behind And as soon as I said behind, Lucas,
Speaker 1: they're behind us, and I was like what, and hegls.
Speaker 1: I can see them there behind us, and there was
Speaker 1: a two pack two strutters came in, I mean, ended
Speaker 1: up working all all the way and at twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five yards they're sitting there. They're kind of stuck. So
Speaker 1: I hit them with a little to try to get
Speaker 1: him to work around the sea. And this is how
Speaker 1: pinpoint a turkey can get. And I've always heard too,
Speaker 1: like if a gobbler can hear you call, he knows
Speaker 1: within ten yards where you're at, and that I don't
Speaker 1: know that I can't see. I don't know that scientifically,
Speaker 1: I've never done the study on that.
Speaker 3: Earthmch stuck his head in the cedar.
Speaker 1: This turkey comes behind us to the seater we're sitting in,
Speaker 1: and literally I went back around there after the hunt
Speaker 1: and saw the strut marks in the dirt under the
Speaker 1: seaedar that we were sitting in. He stuck his head
Speaker 1: into that seatar and gobbled one time, three yards away
Speaker 1: from us. I mean, just look at that is by
Speaker 1: far the closest I've ever been. Yeah, I was a turkey.
Speaker 3: I mean when he got on his head just like
Speaker 3: shot past, it was over my shoulders and he gobbled
Speaker 3: at us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, bro, you talk about intense, man,
Speaker 1: that was intense and ended up he bomps out, They
Speaker 1: pops out, Yeah, LSI blasting game over. It was awesome.
Speaker 3: Good tips in there, good tips in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But all that situational man, and then your rio
Speaker 1: is another situational thing. The very last point of the day.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, we're getting right at shooting light. We're
Speaker 1: driving around trying to spot turkeys, just to spot and
Speaker 1: stalk them. We see two turk two times with two hens.
Speaker 3: Man, we should explain what that means. So when you're
Speaker 3: when you're when you're trying to find turkeys, uh to
Speaker 3: quote unquote spot and stalk, you're not really trying. We're
Speaker 3: not trying to ambush those turkeys. What we're trying to
Speaker 3: do is h kind of the same thing. Get close
Speaker 3: enough that we can hit a call.
Speaker 1: Just that is enough to figure, come figure, come, come
Speaker 1: check it out.
Speaker 3: And them jokers gobbled.
Speaker 1: But it's it's here's another tip, Like when you've got
Speaker 1: two toms with two hens, you know those are those
Speaker 1: toms hens and so, but there's also a little competition
Speaker 1: going on there innately in those birds that if another
Speaker 1: hen comes close enough and one of them starts gobbling
Speaker 1: at it, the other one's probably going to start gobbling
Speaker 1: at it. And if the other one starts going toward
Speaker 1: that sound, the other one's going to go with them.
Speaker 1: Just just competitiveness in innate in a turkey yep. And
Speaker 1: so what happened with us is we got within distance
Speaker 1: of them. We got within distance of them, and I
Speaker 1: knew those turkeys had hens on them. I knew they
Speaker 1: were both goblins. So I just I'm talking about aggress
Speaker 1: ripped it. Just I mean kind of like last ditch effort,
Speaker 1: ripped it. As long as they were gobbling, I was calling.
Speaker 1: Every time I was cutting them off, they were cutting
Speaker 1: me off. That was the hottest turkeys I've seen in
Speaker 1: five years. And they over a span of fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: they slowly worked their way in gobling like crazy. When
Speaker 1: you bust the one, yeah, I'll tell you, those rios
Speaker 1: are fun. They're a different bird.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess a quick overview is like
Speaker 3: if you have if you have some some birds that
Speaker 3: you think have been hunted and just chill, just chill
Speaker 3: on him, don't go nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's ware and play the longer.
Speaker 3: One thing I'm basing my life around right now is
Speaker 3: you're doing too much, man, doing too much. You're doing
Speaker 3: too much, dog, And there's so many turkeys that are
Speaker 3: doing too much. Where you can just make like calls,
Speaker 3: have pati, let the bird work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, you ain't got to shoot him at
Speaker 1: forty forty five yards behind a tree where he sticks
Speaker 1: his head over. Ain't got to do it. Yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: got to do it. Take your time, and honestly, man,
Speaker 1: just coming from like an experienced turkey hunter. My favorite
Speaker 1: hunts are when the bird come, like when I can
Speaker 1: work that bird all the way into me and not
Speaker 1: just do a potshot and try to bust him as
Speaker 1: soon as you've seen it's it's it's so much fun
Speaker 1: to watch a turkey, especially a Tom turkey, be a turkey,
Speaker 1: be a Tom turkey and be a boss and work
Speaker 1: his way into a setup. Yep, we've already been talking
Speaker 1: for close to an hour. I think it's at fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything else you want to look out? That's our
Speaker 3: turkey recap.
Speaker 1: By the way, we've got a heck of a season, man,
Speaker 1: this one. Have y'all ever shared y'all's gravorite songs? You
Speaker 1: know what?
Speaker 3: Man, I got one for you. I think we I
Speaker 3: think we've shared some graverts. Yeah, I think we have to,
Speaker 3: and I think we'll continue to do that. But how
Speaker 3: about this one?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 3: So I'm feeling lately, al I'm tired of.
Speaker 5: Thisty old City smurle for you tired too much work
Speaker 5: and never enough play.
Speaker 1: Un else you're tired of it.
Speaker 5: And I'm tired of the easterty.
Speaker 1: So he must have been in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: I think I'll walk off my steady job today. So
Speaker 3: turn me, set me free. It's somewhere in the middle
Speaker 3: of mountain, and give.
Speaker 2: Me all I've got coming to me, and you can
Speaker 2: keep your time in your soul call social circuit. Big
Speaker 2: city turmi loose and set me free, Old big city
Speaker 2: turmy loose and set me free.
Speaker 1: All of that that is a gravorite of mine.
Speaker 3: I love that song you got one, that one, the
Speaker 3: one I just played. Man, little here you singing better anything?
Speaker 3: It didnt man?
Speaker 1: Bro hit me with that? Uh? Hit me with that?
Speaker 1: Roger Millitary not blueing b which one the uh? What's
Speaker 1: the yeah? We were just singing it. Robin Hood, DoD
Speaker 1: DoD DoD do dude. I don't know if I know this.
Speaker 1: Do dude, do do do do do do do do? Oh?
Speaker 5: Is this.
Speaker 1: Is this the one which one Robin Hood?
Speaker 3: And oh no, that's rob little John.
Speaker 1: Walking through the forest, laughing back and forth at what
Speaker 1: the other has to say, reminiscing this and that and
Speaker 1: having such such a good time. Oot lilly ood, lilly
Speaker 1: golly waterday. You got this part. Make that c never
Speaker 1: thinking every day every oh he sorry wanted to, never
Speaker 1: ever thinking there was danger in the water they were drinking.
Speaker 1: They just guzzled it down, never dreaming that a skiming sheriff,
Speaker 1: and as Posse was watching them and gathering around, robbing
Speaker 1: Hood and little John was running through the forest, jumping fits,
Speaker 1: his dodging trees and trying to get away this one,
Speaker 1: contemplating nothing but escaping. Finally, make it Oot dolly ood
Speaker 1: the lilly golly water day, I said, Hood the lilly
Speaker 1: ooda lilly golly water day.
Speaker 3: That's a jam.
Speaker 1: It's such a jam man one course, never ever thinking
Speaker 1: there everythings around the water they with drinking. They just
Speaker 1: guzzled it down. That's it. I hadn't heard that in
Speaker 1: so long. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of gravorites. And you know what, as
Speaker 3: we do these Bronus episodes, we will or epple bros
Speaker 3: I like that one too, epple Broth, it's pretty good too.
Speaker 3: We'll continue to play graverits if you'd like to hear them.
Speaker 3: If not, that's fine, well we will not.
Speaker 1: Hey hit us with a smell with the roast is cooking?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got one. Hey, thanks for hanging with us.
Speaker 1: I know this is a kind of unorthodox, but uh,
Speaker 1: we'll watch. But I appreciate you sticking around listening to
Speaker 1: the bros talk about turkey hunting and tips.
Speaker 3: Big Orange Azy, Big Orangeazz says bad boom.
Speaker 1: Broke as if you ain't gonna leave y'all as that
Speaker 1: church love that. I told Dad he needed to do that,
Speaker 1: and he's like, nine, don't.
Speaker 3: Roast turkeys. Big Orange As says, these turkeys don't know
Speaker 3: turkey or can't count. Tailing Tucker. We more. There's four
Speaker 3: subspecies of North American turkey is like tailing Luke. He
Speaker 3: had to bring up Luke. There's more than one color
Speaker 3: of PFG shirt. Come on out to Arizona and see
Speaker 3: some Goulds turkeys and learn to count. Wait, great show,
Speaker 3: love you guys, keep it up.
Speaker 1: I thought we hit on gouls. I think our Goulds
Speaker 1: in Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah they are.
Speaker 1: I just don't it's true, man, they are.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing you, I don't think you can
Speaker 3: just go hunt gules turkeys. I think you in Arizona.
Speaker 3: I think you have to pay to go do that. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we're kind of right, kind of roll. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: not predominantly in Arizona. They're just down there on the
Speaker 3: on the on the tip of Mexico and all that.
Speaker 3: They're more I think they're more predominantly of Mexico. Bird.
Speaker 1: But hey, don't offer us to come down there and
Speaker 1: hunt girls with you, or we'll be down there next
Speaker 1: spring shooting that fifth species of.
Speaker 3: Shooting that fifth speed subspeech, baby, big orange ass.
Speaker 1: For anybody out there, big orange azz, haunt you boys
Speaker 1: as all right, it goes for anybody. Uh, shoot your shot, man, dude,
Speaker 1: shoot your shot. Maybe we will.
Speaker 3: We will come home with you if it's a giant deer,
Speaker 3: elk or turkeys. Man shot. We have dude cinis dems pictures.
Speaker 1: Hey, looking at my computer, it looks like you got
Speaker 1: about ten more seconds.
Speaker 3: And not lyrics.
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