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Speaker 2: Look at us now, timpted.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, Oh you.

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Speaker 2: Using will be up to It's time back. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's Monday morning, fired up about combat sports, ready to

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Speaker 2: invade your face hole. Its morning Combat Monday, March twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. You have C London is behind us.

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Speaker 2: Let's get fired up. Brian Campbell, that BBC with that

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Speaker 2: BDE back from Las Vegas. Back here in the NYC.

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Speaker 2: That's Luke Thomas. We are in the Meadow Larks Studios

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Speaker 2: in Man and Luke we started a couple of minutes

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Speaker 2: late because the subway system did you wrong?

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Speaker 1: Well, Jesus, it just doesn't stop where it's supposed to stop. Yes,

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Speaker 1: or the next stop?

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Speaker 2: Now, next stop for that twenty nineteen Luke, say about

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Speaker 2: BC if that happened, you mean.

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Speaker 1: If you had a legitimate reason for public Yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: God of the drinking show. And when you gave me.

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Speaker 1: Hell didn't you drive there?

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Speaker 2: I drove to the train station and then the Metro

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Speaker 2: North you know, put me on many delays.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't forgive you because I'm coming from much further away.

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Speaker 1: You go, We settled that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome into a fantastic show. When you got bclt

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Speaker 2: in a fresh weekend, you got a time fights to

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Speaker 2: break down. You might have that aids No, uh was big?

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Speaker 2: How about rod tang over the weekend?

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Speaker 1: Luke's drinking some I mean they're literally calling it cola.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, that's the name, and it tastes like cola.

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Speaker 1: It tastes like butt, like someone just dip the ass.

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Speaker 2: Here we go fun weekend. By the way, well we'll

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Speaker 2: be hitting a lot of that stuff. And uh okay,

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Speaker 2: here we are.

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Speaker 1: We're here up at this morning.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we show you our social handles and remind

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Speaker 2: you that we would like if you could like this

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Speaker 2: show on YouTube, subscribe to what we've got going on.

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Speaker 2: If you listen audio only while you run your errands.

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Speaker 2: Please tell a friend. Let's let this show spread like

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Speaker 2: but cheek wildfire, right.

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Speaker 1: The grossest soda birch beer?

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I feel like doctor Perky. Is you know that number,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper?

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with the like Mountain Thunder. My family used

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Speaker 1: With Mountain Thunder all right, favorite had the Fago, the

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Speaker 1: the insane clown posse.

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Speaker 2: I don't drink it, but raf Bartholomew in Greater Detroit

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Speaker 1: Well he's white trash.

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Speaker 2: I mean we love that is by the way, rape

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Speaker 2: grow up a block from the studio, really, yes, a block.

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Speaker 2: We've got a third member of our broadcast. You may

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Speaker 2: have seen him over the weekend getting high on the

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Speaker 2: Main Card Minute podcast. He's the son of an Australian

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Speaker 2: ball bag. It's Luke Nocina. Yes, yes, what's up, guys?

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Speaker 3: How we doing?

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Speaker 1: Do you eat ship on your bets?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Kevin Holland Cash Marching, Tie Burrough Cash, Nathaniel Wood Cash,

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Speaker 5: Jan Blohovich. I mean, personally, I do think Olberg won

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Speaker 5: that fight, but that was a close fight.

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Speaker 1: Was close?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Terrell goeshe should a cash? What the hell's hey?

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Speaker 1: Man plus four fifties definitely should have won that.

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Speaker 2: Ye wow, all right, So there's Long Island. Luke. Thank

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any message for the people? Recent medical diagnoses?

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Speaker 2: No update on your future at all this this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about that?

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Speaker 1: Not yet? Not yet?

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Speaker 2: All right? All right, Well you're gonna have to wait

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Speaker 2: and see what's going on here in the life of

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Speaker 2: Luke the Yeah. Soon soon we'll be on that we

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Speaker 2: will be hitting you with dms from donks And have

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Speaker 1: I have. I have a funny story. So I took

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Speaker 1: I'm riding in the streets. She's riding on the sidewalk

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so she loves this this smoothie place. So

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what Sean Kemp and Antonio Kmarti go

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Speaker 2: Uh Kings of Tupelo documentary on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: I was told it makes Tiger King look normal. They

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Speaker 1: America is a weird place. This is a weird place.

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Speaker 2: So is the American South such a weird places. Heay,

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Speaker 2: by DraftKings, and as always DraftKings right, the crown is yours.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me do one thing. We'll use this

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Speaker 1: and say I didn't hate it, and in fact, I

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Speaker 2: Well. I think it's related to overpriced tickets and not

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Speaker 1: Well, blame Leon Edwards for that, but well.

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Speaker 2: number one from the weekend that was UFC London was

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Speaker 2: former champion Leon Edwards, in his first bout since dropping

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Speaker 2: the former champ, Edwards tapped out via fourth round submission.

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Speaker 2: So Luke, not only did Brady win the first three

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Speaker 2: it seems what Edwards didn't do and then maybe what

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Speaker 1: If we assume that the two main contributors to the

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Speaker 1: We have to assign like a pie chart proportion. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's around seventy thirty in favor of Brady.

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Speaker 1: give up at out seventy percent. That's debatable. That's just

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Speaker 1: can we just say this, Sean Brady, he had a

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Speaker 1: Obviously we already know what the story is on the feat.

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Speaker 1: Sean Brady looked pretty good there too, landing good crosses

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Speaker 1: and swivel jabs through combination. But if we're again assigning

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Speaker 1: his top half game. It's either the best in MMA

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Speaker 2: I mean to make this was a full blue moment,

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Speaker 2: you can argue if it's rightfully, so we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: all that. But dude, Sean Brady put him in that

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Speaker 1: Dude, he washed the former champion washed him. I mean

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Speaker 1: It would be competitive, and we'll get to that topic too,

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Speaker 2: Look as we shift the converse stations slowly from Sean

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Speaker 2: And he won me over, and he did that, but

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Speaker 2: Sean Bradley, Go Birds, Go Birds. Here's Sean Brady on

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Speaker 6: You mentioned in the build up that probably wasn't wise

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he was too worried about Belall. He

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Speaker 7: He got he got smoked, So he should have been

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Speaker 1: Oh, he hit me with a nice elbow.

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Speaker 7: I blocked his kicks, Yeah, he did it. Leon likes

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Speaker 2: In fact, we've got a section of tweets here from

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Speaker 1: He had watching You can.

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Speaker 2: See there it says headshot dead, it says.

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Speaker 1: Sehn copied my homework. Leon's gonna need a big motivational

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Speaker 1: He'll never wear a title again. He'll never wear a

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Speaker 2: Not even the the PFL paper view super Fights.

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Speaker 1: Sorry a UFC title, I apologize, Yes, a UFC town.

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Speaker 1: I have seen people go so far as to say

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Speaker 1: That's not true. He is good.

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Speaker 2: Watch the Usman rematch, watch the coving To fight.

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Speaker 1: He's good. He's I mean, that's that to me is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we show that meme to company your statement, right,

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Speaker 1: of course that was partly promotional.

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Speaker 2: But partly bushido.

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Speaker 1: Partly bushido also that, but also what I and you

438
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Speaker 1: know this to be true at the time, But the

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Speaker 1: older you get, the more you really realize how important

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Speaker 1: it is these champions who it feels like sometimes they

441
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Speaker 1: are forcing humility into their perspective, and maybe it is forced,

442
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Speaker 1: but it's forced out of necessity for success at longevity.

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Speaker 1: In order to be good over the expanse of your career,

444
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Speaker 1: you have to over prepare for your opponent, not be

445
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Speaker 1: like I'll get by. That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: And you had these concerns pre fight, and I'm like, dude,

447
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Speaker 2: this guy's only thirty three was pond last year.

448
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Speaker 1: He was saying bullshit.

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Speaker 2: After his fears of his excuses actually turned out to

450
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Speaker 2: be right. I gotta give you that, I mean.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna say it was fighting Sean Brady

452
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Speaker 1: an easy task. Of course it was not, but all

453
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Speaker 1: the more reason to take it seriously, all the more

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Speaker 1: reason to look at the ball out fight and be like,

455
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Speaker 1: there might be some lessons I need to learn here.

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Speaker 1: And of course I know he accepted on short notice.

457
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Speaker 1: Was supposed to be Jack dalea Madalena, and that turn

458
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Speaker 1: of events probably didn't do him any favors. But Sean

459
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Speaker 1: Brady took it a day after his daughter was born

460
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Speaker 1: out a barman, in the day after he left the

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Speaker 1: hospital on short notice, and BC, can we spend a

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Speaker 1: moment in time talking about him shooting in that third

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Speaker 1: round can we please stop talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I had to stop acquiring sound of people dunking on

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Speaker 2: him because I had too many pieces for this show.

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Speaker 2: But Brady went on a rant against it, being like,

467
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Speaker 2: that's the most like, that's the stupidest decision I've ever

468
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Speaker 2: seen in there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go to UFC stats dot com. Okay, UFC stats

470
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Speaker 1: dot com and they'll tell you all the stats that

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Speaker 1: they measure over the fighter's career and individually in around

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Speaker 1: and in a fight. These include things like knockdowns, takedowns,

473
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Speaker 1: strikes that landed, strikes that were attempted, reversal, subs, control, time,

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Speaker 1: you name it. BC. I could make one argument that

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Speaker 1: shooting on him is just dumb as shit, no matter what, right,

476
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Speaker 1: because I know people like, oh, he did it against Kamorrow.

477
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Speaker 1: He did against all these guys, usually to quite poor effect.

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Speaker 1: He had that one trip or landed amount, but he

479
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Speaker 1: didn't do anything with it with Kamora. It looks nice.

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Speaker 1: What was the functional value? So you're a wrestler now, right,

481
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Speaker 1: But the point being is those guys don't have the

482
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Speaker 1: same kind of submission or matt wrestling and Matt control

483
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Speaker 1: that Sean Brady has, and you might say, well, how

484
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Speaker 1: would he's you know, how could you be so sure? Guys,

485
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Speaker 1: go to UFC stats dot Com. In the second round

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Speaker 1: of this fight, in every single category that the stats

487
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Speaker 1: providers use to measure what happens in around leon Words

488
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Speaker 1: had zero in literally every single one. B See, it's

489
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Speaker 1: not that he didn't land to strike, he didn't even throw.

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Speaker 2: One because he was on the ground for four minutes

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Speaker 2: and fifty seven seconds.

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Speaker 1: Right, So my point being is you get fucking blanked

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Speaker 1: like that in round two, and then in round three

494
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Speaker 1: you have the audacity to shoot on this guy. So

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Speaker 1: this is what I mean. His arrogance about totally disconnected

496
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Speaker 1: from his actual ability relative to his opponents bit him

497
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Speaker 1: in the ass big time. But was this all time

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Speaker 1: bad judgment?

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Speaker 2: Comparing all time bad judgment? Was this more or less

500
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Speaker 2: desperate than Connor shooting on Nate in round two at

501
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Speaker 2: UFC one nineties.

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Speaker 1: Much more desperate? Sorry? Sorry, sorry sorry sorry? No, that

503
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Speaker 1: was desperate because in Connor's case, he was he needed exhausted. Yeah,

504
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: he was exhausted. He kind of fell into it. And

505
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Speaker 1: that's the other part too. It wasn't even a good shot.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even a good shot. Dude, that is one

507
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Speaker 1: of the worst decision I have ever seen an elite

508
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Speaker 1: prize fighter make. I don't know why he did it.

509
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Speaker 1: People can speculate, you can decide what his motivation is.

510
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: I can't mind read. What I can say is if

511
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Speaker 1: you're trying to win, that's the worst thing you could

512
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Speaker 1: have possibly done. And another reason why folks been appreciate this.

513
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Speaker 1: He had all of round two to get a feel

514
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Speaker 1: for what a guy like Leon's gonna do. What what when?

515
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Speaker 1: What escape is he gonna try? When I go for

516
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Speaker 1: this pass, when I lean this way, you get a

517
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Speaker 1: feel for someone's defense, and when there's that much difference

518
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Speaker 1: between someone's grappling ability and they begin to get a

519
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Speaker 1: feel for your defense. Rounds over new round starts, Dude,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna carve through you much quicker the next time.

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Speaker 2: And you gave it to him, and it wasn't like

522
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Speaker 2: as bad in my opinion as the Wideman mistake that

523
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Speaker 2: led to him losing the title to rock Hold or

524
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Speaker 2: some of these others. Steve versag late in that fight.

525
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Speaker 2: That's a bad one too, Gastolam after he hurt out

526
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Speaker 2: of Sonia round four, shooting for that takedown.

527
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Speaker 1: You remember that that's a bad one as well.

528
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Speaker 2: There's been a few of those moments. It was a

529
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Speaker 2: bad moment, and it's playing into what we're saying the

530
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Speaker 2: whole in may world, right or wrong? Maybe wrong, Like

531
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Speaker 2: it's aggressive.

532
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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: People are like, let's get Sky out of the sport now.

534
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: So I do feel for Rocky because a lot of

535
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Speaker 2: us overlooked him on the way up. Then he got

536
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Speaker 2: here and now it's like he was never there to

537
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Speaker 2: begin with. That's the sport.

538
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Speaker 1: He was the guy to take out the previous generation

539
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Speaker 1: of elite Walter Waitz. Yes, he took out Comoro, he

540
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: took out Kolby, but guys like Ballall and Sean they

541
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Speaker 1: have a different kind of grappling game for which he

542
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Speaker 1: is quite clearly woefully unprepared.

543
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Speaker 2: So he was a transitional champion ultimately in a lot

544
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Speaker 2: of ways, which is important.

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Speaker 1: And again it's not a question of is he a

546
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Speaker 1: good fighter. He is a good fighter, which makes this decision, frankly,

547
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Speaker 1: in my mind, all the more indefensible. Yes, but if

548
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Speaker 1: you're good and you know, he should have confidence in

549
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: his abilities. The confidence comes from doing the work necessary

550
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Speaker 1: to handle the respective challenges, not from just these guys

551
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Speaker 1: are scrubs because I don't take them seriously, and that

552
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: inability to differentiate between those two things cost him dearly

553
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Speaker 1: in this fight.

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Speaker 2: Unquestionably a final piece in segment one, here is we

555
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Speaker 2: always you know group you in the same grouping of

556
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Speaker 2: hashtag girl dads of you know, people like you the

557
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: Lake Kobe Bryant. It's really changed their life. It's changed

558
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: Sean Brady's life too. And here's a little life changing

559
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Speaker 2: cashola on top for old Brady.

560
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Speaker 5: Behind me.

561
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Speaker 2: I got to buy my daughter some stuff when I

562
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Speaker 2: get home.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Just genuine right there. Okay, it's like a real life

565
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: moment shout out to you know, like Twok's gonna get

566
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Speaker 2: new shoes, right, That's what it's like.

567
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Speaker 1: Exchanged very briefly some dms with him this weekend.

568
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Speaker 2: I love that man. He's a very, very very quality individual.

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Speaker 2: Happy forum. Let's go and do topic number two, and

570
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Speaker 2: it really is surrounding maybe what could be next for

571
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Speaker 2: Sean Brady. Let's hit it. The state of Welterway in

572
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Speaker 2: the UFC. I don't know, I'm starting to feel like

573
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Speaker 2: this is the deepest division in the sport. There's a

574
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Speaker 2: lot going on on a lot of potential contenders. So Luke,

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Speaker 2: Sean Brady's performance does have the potential to recavoc at

576
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Speaker 2: the top in this title picture of what not what

577
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Speaker 2: right now? Like I said, might be among the deepest

578
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: two part question here. Let's go with number one first,

579
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Speaker 2: A lot of people talking about it. Should Sean Brady,

580
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Speaker 2: based on this performance, be allowed to leap frog an injured,

581
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Speaker 2: slash inactive Shapcott rock Monoff to get the first shot

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Speaker 2: at the winner of Balah Mohammad and Jack Dela Mettelena.

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Speaker 1: If if it is such the case that by the

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Speaker 1: time that that fight. When I say that fight, I

585
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Speaker 1: mean the welterweight title fight rotation, you know, three to

586
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Speaker 1: four months, five months or so somewhere around that, maybe

587
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Speaker 1: even six. If Shafcott is not ready and can'tnot be

588
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Speaker 1: available on that timeline, yes he should. Now, if Shafcott

589
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Speaker 1: is ready, I'm less inclined that win over Leon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you think about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have a bon air for Shafcott. Let's

592
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Speaker 2: just put it out there.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the He was supposed to get the title shot. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it got taken from him by no fault of his

595
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Speaker 1: own and he's still thought he in Gary all and

596
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Speaker 1: he's still thought hey in Gary. And again that is

597
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Speaker 1: that that fight was not I mean, that win is

598
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Speaker 1: not even remotely as impressive. I mean, let's just be clear,

599
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Speaker 1: Sean Brady's win over Leon is better than any win

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Speaker 1: Schofcat has. That's just a fact. But guys, the reality

601
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Speaker 1: is the sport moves very quickly. It's not necessarily all

602
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: that surprising that another surgeon contender put together something impressive

603
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Speaker 1: while another guy is sitting on the sidelines. That's simply

604
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Speaker 1: the nature of what happens during injury timeouts. And I

605
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: don't mean in the middle of a fight. I mean

606
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: like a timeout in your career. Other guys just keep

607
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: the train moving and then all of a sudden you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of behind here. I get it. My point

609
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Speaker 1: being is he was already in that position. I feel

610
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Speaker 1: like we have to do right by him.

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Speaker 2: But BC, yeah, BAC say it, are you rapping right now?

612
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Speaker 1: I'm so animated because we got so many guys who

613
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I either like their style of fighting, I like him

614
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Speaker 1: as people a combination of both. What about Shavcott if

615
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: it comes to it, If it comes to it. Shovcot

616
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: versus Sean Brady a boner from here to motherfucking handles ago.

617
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Speaker 2: A year ago, we thought we'd be sending Sean Brady

618
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Speaker 2: to the butcher shop in that fight, right, a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Sean Brady, if he gets on top of anybody

620
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: in that division, can submit him. There's nobody in that

621
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Speaker 1: division once it gets to the ground. Now, of course,

622
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Speaker 1: taking the ball all down not going to be easy,

623
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Speaker 1: but if it gets to the match, he can submit

624
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Speaker 1: any welterweight on the planet. About that, I am sure, guys.

625
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: He had a match. They had handicapped some of the

626
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: rules BC around leglocks. Sure, but he went up against

627
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Speaker 1: Craig Jones and beat him.

628
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Speaker 2: Sean Brady.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Now again they handicapped the rules about leglocks. It's

630
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Speaker 1: not a claim he's actually better than Craig Jones, but

631
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Speaker 1: it is to say he's pretty fucking competitive. Yeah, he's

632
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: pretty competitive, dude. He doesn't make positional mistakes. That's the

633
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Speaker 1: kind of grapple you're dealing with. So we're in the

634
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Speaker 1: middle of March Madness BC. You could do JDM and

635
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: bellall on one side of the bracket. Shotcott and Sean

636
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Speaker 1: Brady on the other. Now again it's going to make.

637
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Speaker 2: And Gary madd It's what how was Ian Gary lost?

638
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Speaker 2: I get it, he's already upset that jack that Jacko

639
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Speaker 2: got the title shot over him.

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Speaker 1: You mean the guy who came off of a win

641
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: over Hi.

642
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: Showed in a loss to shot cut that he deserved

643
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Speaker 2: to be next.

644
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: Right, But you're allowed to take moral victories, right. Moral

645
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: victories don't propel you in the rank.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about, because I got them on my channel today.

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Speaker 1: The next time I take a gigantic l I also

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Puerto Rico and do a

649
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Speaker 1: gigantic media toys. Okay, but I'm just being serious. There's

650
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Speaker 1: a lot of different plays here. But to me, the

651
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Speaker 1: relevant question I want to hear what you have to say,

652
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Speaker 1: bec is the relevant question is what is the timeline

653
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Speaker 1: for Shotcutt's return?

654
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Speaker 2: That decides it? Because I think Shavecott meritocracally and what

655
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Speaker 2: he did for the company fighting Gary, not even for

656
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Speaker 2: the interim title, just fighting Gary late notice, because he's

657
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Speaker 2: a man, and he and he's forty and he'll take

658
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Speaker 2: on anyone who's in front of him. Let's hear though

659
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Speaker 2: from friend of the program, Josh Thompson of the Weighing

660
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Speaker 2: In Podcast, who believes much stronger than me. He believes

661
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: automatically here it should be Brady next.

662
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Speaker 9: Unpopular opinion, but I gotta be honest tonight, Sean Brady's

663
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 9: performance was spectacular, But the question has to be asked,

664
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Speaker 9: does he jump Shavecott now for the title shot? Great

665
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 9: finish over Leon Edwards, great performance before that fight as well,

666
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Speaker 9: like he's on a terror right now. Shavcott coming off

667
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Speaker 9: obviously the win over Jeff Neil and the win over

668
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Speaker 9: Ian Gary, which is very lackluster, but that's to be

669
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Speaker 9: expected from two stand up fighters. I think Sean Brady

670
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Speaker 9: jumps Shavcot from Shavcott's inactivity. But Sean Brady having such

671
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Speaker 9: a great performance, what do you think?

672
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Speaker 2: So if you listen closely, his point is that he

673
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Speaker 2: believes the Neil fight, which was the first time we

674
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Speaker 2: thought Shavecott might be human because he was getting kind

675
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: of lit up at times in those exchanges, mixed with

676
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Speaker 2: the Gary fight, in which both were largely ineffective in

677
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Speaker 2: trying to overtake the other one, so it became more

678
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: of a point fight that if you mix that with

679
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Speaker 2: the injury. That right now, even if Shavcott was healthy,

680
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: Sean Brady's the more active guy taking out big names,

681
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: and look what he just did to the former champ.

682
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Speaker 2: After hearing that argument, I mean, it's it's, it's I

683
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Speaker 2: kind of understand it. I still I would lean shav

684
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Cut Obviously it'll depend on the injury. But what do

685
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Speaker 2: you think about Josh's take.

686
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Speaker 1: Here's the it's it's it's not crazy logic, and Josh

687
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: Thompson we like him over here at MK. It's not crazy,

688
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: it's not crazy logic. I don't agree, but it's definitely

689
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: not something that I don't know what kind of reaction

690
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: he got. He was saying it's unpopular. I don't know

691
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Speaker 1: how unpopular that would be. Actually, I've definitely seen some

692
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Speaker 1: whispers of that in conjunction with this one. It's it's

693
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Speaker 1: I'll say it again, there's no question who has the

694
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Speaker 1: single best win between Sean Brady and Schofcott Rock Modo.

695
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: Sean Brady does submitting Leon Edwards and dude like he

696
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: didn't just submit Leon Edwards. He fucking big brothered him.

697
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: He big brothered him like it was it was it

698
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: was that was dude, that was light work for Sean.

699
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Speaker 1: I mean, the first round was obviously, you know, fine,

700
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: but after that that was fucking light work for him.

701
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: And that is crazy.

702
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Where did you get the redness in the eye? Was

703
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: that on that elbow?

704
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: Where was that? I mean, again, in the first round,

705
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Speaker 1: like a little bit in the second actually, or maybe

706
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the third he came out and popped him a little bit,

707
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: but he was he was catching him with some of

708
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: those elbows. We talked about the elbows and the clinch,

709
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: did we not clinch was gonna be interesting position? And

710
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: at first of all, like Leon was doing pretty great

711
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Speaker 1: in the first round, but then that all went to

712
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Speaker 1: shit again. I just feel like if you promise a

713
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: guy a title shot, the only way you really rescind

714
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: that is when they can't meet any kind of normal

715
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: return to activity on a reasonable timeline. Also, we'll say this,

716
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Sean Brady did already fight Boal Mohammed if Billaw ends

717
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: up beating JDM, and I did. I think Billa very

718
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: clearly deserves to be the favorite in that fight. Now again,

719
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: JDM is dangerous, but whatever, if he wins, you're just

720
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna put Brady right back in front of him, you

721
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: could do that, but Shofkat, if he's not far behind,

722
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: is a fresh matchup, and then you can see what

723
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: kind of happens thereafter. By the way, it also depends

724
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: on what Sean Brady wants to do. Does he want

725
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: to wait, does he want to get back out there?

726
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: Does he want to be you know, uh, the lead

727
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: consistent in terms of his frequency.

728
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: Well, he personally believes, and we got sound to throw

729
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: to that. Although what's going against him, of course, is

730
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: that he already fought Balo and got knocked out. He

731
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: believes he did the Leon way worse than Belal did,

732
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: and that plays into this argument. Let's listen to Sean

733
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Brady about the future.

734
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 10: But All tweeted Sean copied my homework. Was that a

735
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 10: plan going into this fight to put on pressure on Leon?

736
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 10: Because we have noticed when you give him space and

737
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 10: throw the let kikes and you come into his game.

738
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: Was that a plan of it?

739
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

740
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 7: I mean I think I did a lot better than

741
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 7: belaw did. I think Balall lost a couple of rounds.

742
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 7: He had his back taken for an entire round. I

743
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 7: think it was what three to two when they fought.

744
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: I dominated Leon every round no one's ever did it

745
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 7: like me. And then I submitted him and made him

746
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 7: quit in front of his hometown. You weren't gonna if

747
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 7: we were Philly, you ain't making me quit in front

748
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 7: of my hometown. I'll tell you that I'm going to

749
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 7: sleep son.

750
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Speaker 2: So so, Luke, those are some interesting points as well.

751
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: I want to get Long Island Luke's take from a

752
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: generate level. If Sean Brady was fighting Ballall next, or

753
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: if Baall beats Jack Della and then we do that

754
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: fight anyway, what would the odds be based on all

755
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: of these facts we're talking about right here.

756
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 5: I think just based on the first fight, Balall has

757
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: to be the favorite. Sure, Sean definitely his stock went.

758
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: He probably closed the odds a little bit after this performance.

759
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: But I still think Blall is gonna be like minus

760
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: one seventy five Sean plus one fifties.

761
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: But that'd be shown Sean a lot of respect based

762
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: on the three fights since that Ballall fight.

763
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: Listen, this this should be an episode where we talk

764
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: great about Sean Brady and I certainly we've been doing that.

765
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: We probably will continue to do it for quite a

766
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: long time. If you rewatch the first fight, well, the

767
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: only fight between Brady and and Balall. Do Ballall look

768
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: really good? He shut down those takedowns very quickly and

769
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: then popped in with that right hand as he moved

770
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: over like this is what I mean. We're just gonna

771
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: put like, why would you do a rematch when the

772
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: first fight? To Ballall's credit, I'm not trying to bash

773
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: Brady in any way. It's a great weekend for him.

774
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: But Blall won that one pretty cleanly.

775
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: Sure that'll go against him in this larger one.

776
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: What I mean is give it a little bit of time.

777
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's wait a little bit so we get

778
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: a different vert or, at least in theory a potentially

779
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: a different version of that fight the second time around,

780
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: So anywhere you go.

781
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: We also have a stat here on Twitter showing some

782
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: Sean Brady stuff here fun facts, says Neredith geche at

783
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: nerd underscore Geychee. Sean Brady is the only fighter to

784
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: have a winning record after fighting Balah Mohammed since that loss.

785
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Of course, Brady, now I thought he was three and

786
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: oh they're saying no, he's three and oh, since then

787
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: this must have maybe this came out before the fight

788
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: because he's now three and oh, because he'd beat Gastolm

789
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: and then he beat the last day.

790
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: He's smashed Gilbert Gilbert.

791
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: Burns in the last one and as you can see

792
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: all the other fighters there, no one has scored a

793
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: victory after that. That is a very interesting stat. Now

794
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: it still means that of shaf Kottarthy he deserves it.

795
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: But the second half of this state of welterweight question

796
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: is interesting, Luke, and I want to get your personal

797
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: take care. Can you share for me your top five

798
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: pound for pound ranking right now in the UFC at

799
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy pounds, including champion and including contenders,

800
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: and not necessarily in terms of accomplishments, just the other

801
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: half of the pound four pound debit, current stock, pure

802
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: ability right now. You can add in momentum because that matters.

803
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: Who is your working five right now at one hundred

804
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: and seventy pounds.

805
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I can see your list

806
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: here and I cannot believe it, all right, cannot Yeah,

807
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: why don't you go first? Because I want to be clear.

808
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: I think your list is insane.

809
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: This is great, all right, this is gonna be wonderful.

810
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Mean, these are all good fighters. Your list is nuts.

811
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Number five, I really toyed with this, but I'm

812
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: going Joaquin Buckley that part. I'm okay with the finishes

813
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: of light, the wind streak, the maturity that he's showing,

814
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: the confidence, all of that momentum matters. He's got that.

815
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: Number four, Sean Brady.

816
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: I think this is weird positioning.

817
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: Number three, blah mohammeds that is you are?

818
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: You are so fucking wait till you see who's number two?

819
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Number two?

820
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I I quit, I fucking quit. How do you have

821
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: him above fucking Sean Brady.

822
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: Because I think he has this ability to stuff takedowns,

823
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: take away your strength and put you into a point fight.

824
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Matt He's got he's got super limited offense.

825
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: I get that, but he but he puts you into

826
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: the terms of him from distance point fight Sean.

827
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Sean Brady just submitted the former champion.

828
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: I got that. But he went in there against that

829
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: killer Shavcott and made him look human and and I

830
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: know he didn't win the fight. I'm not trying to

831
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: do the Berlinco victory tour. I'm not saying give e

832
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: in the next title shot. I'm not saying that I'm

833
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: not even saying that I'm this big closity and Gary superfan.

834
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 7: I'm not.

835
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he has this ability to swim at

836
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: this very high level, and I think there's a reason,

837
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: even though sometimes he looks overwhelming, there's a reason why

838
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: people don't dominate him and body him and get him.

839
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: I have him too, and then of course number one,

840
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: I have Shavcott, although I'm I see the doubt of late.

841
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: Maybe it's been fueled by injury and all that. Maybe

842
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: a prime, full camp, healthy shop cut is a different

843
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: story for everybody. But that's my five at the moment.

844
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Long out Luke like, So that's me basically saying I

845
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: think Ian Gary could stuff Sean Brady's advancement and make

846
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: it a different fight. Am I crazy?

847
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: I don't think you're crazy, But I don't agree he's

848
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: huge for this weight class.

849
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: As I think he's he's not huge.

850
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: I'm swapping out Buckley for JDM in your top five.

851
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 2: So I I get that. But I looked at jdm's

852
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: recent run. It's not just the inactivity of the injury.

853
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: He was getting pieced up by Gilbert until he until

854
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: he won that Filbertie dude, I don't think I haven't

855
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: seen a dominant JDM performance against an elite guy lately

856
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: where I'm like, yes, he really is that guy.

857
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what have you seen from Buckley? You haven't beating.

858
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Explosive winds against legitimate names.

859
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: He beat four people in a year, and he looks

860
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: really good doing it. I can understand that.

861
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't have too far out, like you know, I mean, okay,

862
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: fair enough, but.

863
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: He had to start somewhere, But like, where would you

864
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: put Buckley out outside?

865
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going JDM five. I'm going okay, I think

866
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 5: you guys are high Ian Gary four. I'm going blall

867
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Speaker 5: three two and ballall one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me go, let me do mine. I like

869
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: his better, but number two three okay, I'm gonna go

870
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: number one. And I can't believe this is even debatable. Dude,

871
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: put some fucking respect on.

872
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: I have respect on him. He's number one.

873
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Blow Muhammad with a bullet, dude. He has surprised me.

874
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. Listen. I didn't see his ascension

875
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: coming either. I'm not some fucking grand sage. But it happened.

876
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: It happened, and he did that win over Sean Brady

877
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: go back and watch it. It ages well super well. Okay,

878
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: he's number one, number two because he submitted a former champion,

879
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Sean Brady is that number shot Cut is going to

880
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: be at three. Now, that's a call.

881
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: So you're leaning into the doubt around Shavkat.

882
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm not leaning into the doubt. I have to respect

883
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: what these other guys are showing.

884
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you we're not branking today's thing on accomplishments.

885
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Right I understand. Okay, well, but you wrote. You wrote

886
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: not in terms of accomplishments, just in terms of current

887
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: stock pure ability, slash momentum pure ability. What Sean Brady

888
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: showed is comp.

889
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: We'll have a crazy massive momentum as well right now,

890
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: even though he was hurt lately.

891
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, he has improved like to such a degree.

892
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: You know it's controversial. I'm just telling you, I think

893
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: we're missing the rise of Gary. I think we're missing

894
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: part of it. We're missing the full package.

895
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go four Walking Buckley, and then five Ian Gary.

896
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: I think it's comical to put Ian Gary in front

897
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: of any of the other four guys. So wait, Buck first, Cook,

898
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: who you taking? Buck Cook?

899
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: What do we do.

900
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Why?

901
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 5: That's an average Joe Art original piece.

902
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: I take Buckley, I take Buckley. I'm taking.

903
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: So you think Buckley what stops?

904
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: I think Buckley is. I think Buckley is further along

905
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: in his development. Now that being said, Ian Gary is

906
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: quite young. I think how much younger is Ian Gary

907
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: than Woking Buckley? Can you look that up? I gotta

908
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: look it.

909
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Buckley's like mid thirties.

910
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: Ian Gary, I think, is like late twenties. So I

911
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: think the thing is Ian Gary's got more time to

912
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: get good, whereas some of these other guys are a

913
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: little bit further along because they or older, not all

914
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: of them, obviously, but certainly gives a blal and stuff

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: like that. So it's not a question of ultimate upside.

916
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: But right now, looking at the stock ticker, who's impressing

917
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: me with their ability, momentum and stock? Yeah it's walking

918
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: Buckley over eat okay?

919
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: I and Gary is twenty seven years old. Walking Buckley

920
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 5: will be thirty in about a month.

921
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: Oh so Buckley's only twenty nine. I take that back.

922
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: I thought he was older. He was like thirty five.

923
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: Still, he's in the middle of his athletic This is

924
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's in the middle of his athletic prime.

925
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 1: Ian Gary hasn't even started.

926
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay, what if I had swapped it out? What if

927
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Speaker 2: I left shof Cut at one, but I put Ballall

928
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: at two and I put Geeing Gary at three? Would

929
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: this have been a controversy or crazy at all? I

930
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: don't think. I mean, I think it's just swapping ballaal

931
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: and Gary on two and three. I think we're going

932
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: to be wrong about Ian Gary. I think we are.

933
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: I think he's he's building something here and it's don't

934
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't line of spectacularity that makes us go I'm

935
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: not sure. But who's body in this guy?

936
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: What is Ian Gary's best win?

937
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean, MVP did tournament to a wrestler, but he

938
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: figured out a way. Gary his best win the loss

939
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: against Jevcott is I and Gary.

940
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: That's not But that's the truth. That's the truth. Okay,

941
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: but that's that's not a thing.

942
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.

943
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: You got to go in there, dude. This is why

944
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: what Sean Brady did is so impressive. He went in

945
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: there again. These people have been like, oh, Leon was

946
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: never good, Yes he was, Yes he was. You can

947
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: say he fucked up in this fight and he's got

948
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: other issues, because that's true, but he's real good. Sean

949
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: Brady went in there against a known, credible achiever and

950
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: demolished him. Ian Gary simply hasn't done that yet.

951
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say Shafcott is healthy and this whole

952
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: segment in debate is unnecessary. It really might be, and

953
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: Gary versus Sean Brady is the next fight, that number

954
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: one contender fight.

955
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: And Sean Brady, to me into other outlets, has called

956
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: out Ian Gary. I believe they have the same manager.

957
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: It's something that I know he wants because dude, I

958
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: think Sean Brady looks at the grappling as like, I'm

959
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: gonna feast on this guy.

960
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so long, I don't look, this is where we

961
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: need your best degeneracy. Give us if this is the

962
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: number one contender fight next, give us the odds for

963
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Sean Brady versus Ian Michuttle Gary.

964
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: Personally, I'm favoring Sean, but it'd be close. I'm gonna

965
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: go like minus one thirty Sewan plus one point fifteen

966
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 5: Ian Gary.

967
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I believe that I get what we

968
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: just saw from Brady, which was incredible. Is is literally

969
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: us changing the conversation and asking if if he should

970
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: be in the title shot next. So I'm giving him

971
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: his respect. I'm saying, don't sleep on who Ian Gary

972
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: really is. Don't don't miss this.

973
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: I believe in what Ian Gary can become.

974
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: His wife sex does not live with him.

975
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: It was a false rumor. Don't I guess this. I

976
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: can't believe the most under sexed males completely don't understand

977
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: his life. But you need to hear nor there. I

978
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: believe fully BC, because I got you know what I'll

979
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: can I be honest with you. Your promotion of Ian

980
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: Gary to me, feels a little bit like not Kevin

981
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Lee future World Championship. By the way, I was totally

982
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: on board with I was totally on board with No.

983
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: It feels to me like Francis is gonna wrestle serial

984
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: kind of thing. To me, it happening.

985
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: I did get that right there, You got it right exactly.

986
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think that will age. Well,

987
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: it's not a question of what Ian Gary will become.

988
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: I got you just where he is right now. And

989
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Sean Brady's doing really impressive shit hey waits on division.

990
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Because I could have put Carlos Protest right on the

991
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: outside of that top five that we don't know. This

992
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: guy could be a fucking hot knife coming through.

993
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, we kind of treat welterweight sometimes

994
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: a little bit like you know, it's it's not as

995
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: bad as middleweight, but it's a far cry.

996
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: From You got a lot of wonder boys, a lot

997
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: of Colby's lingering right like.

998
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: That, But unlike lightweight, you're looking at the young guys

999
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: starting to push them all out. Now Belos a little

1000
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: bit older, but you know how much time does he

1001
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: have left on top? It's hard to say. I freaking

1002
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: love what's happening at welterweight. This is what's supposed to happen,

1003
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: healthy divisional turnover with the new guys coming in and

1004
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: pushing out some of the older ones. Great great Mardallas

1005
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: also on that list right, one hundred percent, he's on

1006
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: that list. You built like a fucking tank, yep, Luke.

1007
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: Now was a good time, by the way, to remember

1008
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,520
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1009
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,400
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1010
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Speaker 2: part of what we do on pregame preview. And since

1011
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Speaker 2: that starting point, Quervo has stayed true to its roots.

1012
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: It's the same family, it's the same land, it's the

1013
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: same passion, and two hundred and thirty years later, they're

1014
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Speaker 2: still here in every pore, in every margarita, even if

1015
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: you drink three of them, and in every celebration. So

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Speaker 2: enjoy the tequila that started at all Quervo, the tequila

1017
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Speaker 2: that invented tequila Proximo Quervo dot com. Please drink responsibly. Look,

1018
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting jazzed up for our UFC three fourteen pregame

1019
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: preview that's coming up on Wednesday, April ninth. You're gonna

1020
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: get some Quervo. We're gonna get after a loaded Miami card.

1021
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: That Miami card, and I'm glad you brought this up.

1022
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be on a Friday. It's gonna be

1023
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. It's gonna be in a Wednesday, folks.

1024
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: So that way we can get maximum time in front

1025
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: of your eyeballs, yes.

1026
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: And provide for my vacation. A couple of days later.

1027
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: I have one thing to show you. Breaking news from

1028
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: the Joe. It happened Saturday night on the Joe Rogan

1029
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: What did they call that? That live fight the Fight

1030
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: Companion podcast, Joe said, And I want to get Luke's

1031
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: live reaction. Joe said, quote, I won't be at UFC

1032
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: three fifteen. I don't go to Canada any more. I'd

1033
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: rather go to Russia. End quote. This has been quote

1034
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: tweeted by MMA Fighting even made a post in a.

1035
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: Picture of Canada is a great place with great things

1036
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: to see and great people like his loss. Honestly, you

1037
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: know what I means. This is a personal This fucking

1038
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: bullshit about going after Canada is so fucking lame. Canada rocks,

1039
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: like I got nothing about to say about the coldest

1040
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: funk how about that?

1041
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: Even Shakille Majudy's texts.

1042
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what now I hate Canada again?

1043
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's right? All right? Hey, let's go

1044
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: to topic number three and it is, of course the

1045
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: rest of UFC London beginning.

1046
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: Oh time out real quickly, if I may, I am sorry,

1047
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: please bring we are supposed to get Kane Velaskiz is

1048
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: sentencing in about ten minutes long island. Luke, can you

1049
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: uh check out Nolan King on Twitter, he's there. I think, okay,

1050
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: thank you, sorry, we'll go.

1051
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: UFC London's Cole main event was a big storyline there

1052
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: in the light heavyweight division and in the larger title

1053
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: blong look and then in the larger title picture because

1054
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: Carlos Oldberg claimed what would turn out to be a

1055
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: pretty disputed three round decision or was it? That's why

1056
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: we're here to debate against former champion of the Amblohovitch.

1057
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: So Luke, plain and simple, we both watched this fight.

1058
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 2: Is there justification for all three judges scoring at twenty

1059
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: nine to twenty eight, two rounds to one for Carlos

1060
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Olberg against his forty two year old opponent who is

1061
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: coming back after nearly a two year layoff.

1062
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: I there are two ways to get title shots. Two ways.

1063
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: One is you can go through and simply conquer a

1064
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: division as a contender where you're just marching down big names,

1065
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: you're winning all the important fights, and you look like

1066
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: a million bucks. Fans are interested, you might be marketable.

1067
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: You can all think of a million scenarios in which

1068
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: that has happened. Chris Widman, Connor McGregor, you name it.

1069
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: There's just a million. That's one way to get a

1070
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 1: title shot. There's another way to get a title shot,

1071
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: which is not so much conquering, it's qualifying. Did you

1072
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: get enough wins? Is there someone else a little bit ahead?

1073
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: Does the UFC need you for some particular reason as

1074
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: you're a fresh contender, do you speak to a certain market?

1075
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Do you you know? Whatever the case may be to

1076
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: me in this case, I think the scoring we need

1077
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: to talk about the scoring round by round because you

1078
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: look at the judge of score cards, they're all over

1079
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: the we have them. Oh okay, so let's look at

1080
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: them here for a second. But my point being is

1081
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: from a broad perspective, leave them up if you can

1082
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: well look from a broad perspective, Carlos Alberg has qualified

1083
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: for a title shot. Yes he has qualified, but he

1084
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: hardly has a mandate. Now to the point about the

1085
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: scoring individually, I.

1086
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: Think in terms of his mandate he prefers went out.

1087
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1088
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is, if you look

1089
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: at this, there isn't there isn't. I don't think a

1090
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: single round on all. The third round, sorry, the second round,

1091
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: that's the only one they all agree on, which I

1092
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: got to say that probably was to me Olberg's better round.

1093
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: I had it kind of like I'm gonna say I

1094
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: had it like Ben Cartilage had it.

1095
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: I gave it. See round two is the only one

1096
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: I gave to Belohov.

1097
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: You gave round two to Blohoid.

1098
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: I did. Look, this was a very close fight. They

1099
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: both kind of canceled each other out. There was a

1100
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: lot of focus on the calfkicks. There wasn't takedowns, there

1101
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: wasn't dominant I mean, I thought Jan landed that two

1102
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: punch combination that was the swing sequence in that close

1103
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: second round for.

1104
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: Me, I'll tell you what I scored it. For Blahovich,

1105
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: I know, I thought Olberg was gonna win on Friday's MK,

1106
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: and I guess you know obviously he did. But I

1107
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: thought after the fight was over, I was like, I

1108
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: think Blovich took it. And for MEBC, I want to

1109
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: get long Island Luke's score here in just a minute.

1110
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: For me, BC, the difference was And I would love

1111
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: to see what you think about this, I thought Lahovich,

1112
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: even if he wasn't landing numerically as much as Olberg,

1113
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Olberg did do more labor. Sure, I thought Plahovich was

1114
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: visibly landing with more impact.

1115
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I scored the second round for him,

1116
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: and you just clowned it, like that's that's the Are

1117
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: you clowning that it's the only round I scored. That

1118
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: it's the only round, okay, which is which I think.

1119
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: It's just the central part of this debate. I think

1120
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: because I was remember I wasn't watching live. I was

1121
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: sort of told by the internet coming in that this

1122
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: is the nicest guy in the world, Thean Blokhovich, and

1123
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 2: he is. It's a great interview.

1124
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: We love him.

1125
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: He's on this run of not getting the benefit of

1126
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: the doubt. When you consider the I'm sorry, the title

1127
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: draw he had against Unkliev, you consider when he welcomed

1128
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Poetan to the division via split decision defeat. There's a

1129
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: lot of people that say the wrestling should have been

1130
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: scored more in the way he controlled Pereira and he

1131
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: could have won that all poor John. This is the

1132
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: third time in a row they don't give him the respect,

1133
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: and then I go watch it. Yes, there's times he's

1134
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: chewing them up to the to the calves, and I

1135
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: did like that the couple the two sequences actually around

1136
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: two where he threw combinations in close and landed big shots,

1137
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: but overall I felt, because it was so close in

1138
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: terms of the impact of the strikes, that Olberg was

1139
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: the busier guy and in some ways had longer controls

1140
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: minor controls of the terms. But like there, I just

1141
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: liked his offense better in a fight where I don't

1142
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: think either guy rose. I thought it was kind of

1143
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 2: a stalemate ultimately, so I didn't see the big screw

1144
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: job or debate. I thought it was a It was

1145
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: a lot like when yan Belkovitch was climbing the light

1146
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: heavyweight ladder and he had that main event against Jock Array,

1147
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, dude, if he knocks him out,

1148
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: this could be the breakthrough shot for a title. And

1149
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: what did Yon do. He played wrestle defense the whole

1150
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: time and won a boring five round decision. But he

1151
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: moved the chains, got in there against Corey Anderson in

1152
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: his next fight, knocked him out, and then got his

1153
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: title shot. And that's what happened. I get that sometimes

1154
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: it's just about winning, and this is what it turned

1155
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: out for Olberg. And if we're gonna have the you

1156
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: know you can, we can have the discussion of has

1157
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: he shown you ability wise that he's ready for the

1158
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 2: title compared with how much that eight win streak actually shows.

1159
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: But I think this fight was a flip of the

1160
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: coin ultimately, and who won that. I don't see the

1161
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: screw job element? Am I crazy?

1162
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: I'll look, how'd you score it? So?

1163
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 5: I had a bet on Blohovich, so I was obviously

1164
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: rooting for him, but I scored it first round Yon

1165
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 5: two three for Olberg. I don't think there's any scorecard

1166
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: here that would surprise me. I was saying this the BC.

1167
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 5: You could have gone thirty twenty seven Yon, thirty twenty

1168
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: seven Oldberg or twenty nine to twenty eight.

1169
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: Either way.

1170
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 5: Every round was really close. Do you think round one

1171
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 5: was a Yan, Round two three Olberg?

1172
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: Though?

1173
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean I I was surprised Olberg won. I thought

1174
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: Yan won it, but I don't think it's close. I

1175
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's a screw job.

1176
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you are surprised, then what what was

1177
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: it from the Blohovic deteck? Just the fact that he

1178
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: did seem to land the harder.

1179
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, harder ship yeah. And again you got good judges

1180
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: like Ben Cartilage is a really good jobs.

1181
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: I met him through uh bronstat Or in Vegas. A

1182
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: very nice guy.

1183
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he's like, dude, he's hardcore, like he's

1184
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: trying to be the best judge in the world. And

1185
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: he might be. But the point I'm trying to make is,

1186
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: it's not like I don't think. It's not like I

1187
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: can't comprehend what the Olberg? How you get to twenty

1188
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: nine twenty eight with Olburg? I totally understand that. I

1189
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: would just like to hear a vision articulated. Is it

1190
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: because he out volumed him? Are we granting? Are you

1191
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: admitting that it looked in all three rounds that Jan

1192
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: landed the harder shot.

1193
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying in round two it definitely did. I

1194
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: gave him that round and I felt wrong.

1195
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: One and three were just you didn't get that vibe. Yeah, man,

1196
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought that there were so many

1197
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: times he was taking him off of his foundation.

1198
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the reason why Carl los Oldberg one.

1199
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Can we show the three judges faces? See I saw

1200
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: this meme about c KB, and I'm thinking, okay, okay,

1201
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: this man, they screwed my guy. And I'm not saying

1202
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm overly impressed by Carlos.

1203
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: Why does kai Kara have the belt in this picture?

1204
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a little weird.

1205
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: That is weird. I don't know.

1206
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: He never won the inuterarm title right, lost to Marina

1207
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: for Yeah, but he never had it, So that's all

1208
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: a joke and stuff.

1209
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: I just here's the thing. It's like MMA and any sport,

1210
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: but in particular MMA, and obviously it's one we're talking about.

1211
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: The fans have their favorites, and Lhovich has been something

1212
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: of a favorite Folish power. They love the memes, they

1213
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: love his attitude, and again they like the way he fights,

1214
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: like dude Yon Blohovich. By the way, I gotta say

1215
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: he looked his age, but he didn't look I didn't

1216
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: know how he was going to look. From a fluidity standpoint,

1217
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: he looked pretty fluid.

1218
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: He shook the rust off pretty quick.

1219
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it just looked at me like he kind of

1220
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: faded down the stretch.

1221
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he had the stamina to go for takedown,

1222
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: That's what I and that maybe could have been the totally.

1223
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: I think he didn't have that extra gear really put

1224
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: it on him, whereas Olberg kind of did, and so

1225
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: that kind of made a difference in the end. But

1226
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: the point I want to make is they love Blahovich

1227
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: and so was it close? Yes, so their favorite guy

1228
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: ended up losing a you know, not controversial but difficult

1229
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: to accept, close fight, and I think that explains some

1230
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: of the stuff you now we're gonna.

1231
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: Hear from Carlos. Not Carlos protest, Carlos Oldberg. Sorry in

1232
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: a second, but were you I don't want I don't

1233
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: know if impressed is the word. But do you feel

1234
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: like Oldberg is showing us that he's ready.

1235
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: For the title? No, yeah, I didn't get that.

1236
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: By all right, let's hear his take on that.

1237
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: Do you feel that win really announces you at the

1238
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 6: very top of the division and the top of the

1239
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 6: sport now for sure?

1240
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: Yes?

1241
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 4: And if you look at guys like the current champion

1242
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 4: and the former champion, their last fight with with Jaanbrohovitch

1243
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: was a very close fight as well, and I beat

1244
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: him with a united decision UD.

1245
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: So it's a very good feat for me.

1246
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 6: Final on Pereira and live rematch if that's next. Who's

1247
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 6: coming out on top of that?

1248
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: I'm not too sure.

1249
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: I don't I haven't even seen the fight yet, but

1250
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: but I'll go back and I'll watch the fight too,

1251
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: and then we'll see, we'll see what it places me to.

1252
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 6: Jerry Pratchka mentioned he was interested in the winner of

1253
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 6: your fight next if you weren't going to get a

1254
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 6: title shot you and how do you feel you'd match

1255
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 6: up with him?

1256
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I'll get anyone. But I mean, where

1257
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: is he placed at the moment. I'm looking to go

1258
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 4: forward for sure, and I'm definitely looking at a title

1259
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 4: shot in the near future.

1260
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: I get Olberg's stance there, but the other two guys

1261
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: who fought, yeahn weren't fighting a guy coming off for

1262
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: eighteen months off with double soulder surgery, So that you know,

1263
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: some of that does matter right to some degree, and

1264
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: in that, but what do you make I think we

1265
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: all would like him against Jerry Perhatsko if he can't

1266
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 2: get the winner of that rematch, for sure, But shouldn't

1267
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: he get the winner of that rematch between akeliav In

1268
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: and Poton? Or do you would you be more than

1269
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: fine with making Olberg go in there against a killer

1270
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: and have to really earn it.

1271
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: I think I'd be okay with it. It's fucking light heavyweight.

1272
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: I think we just need to kind of accept where we.

1273
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: Are with this.

1274
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: Okay, And here's the thing. It's like, dude, Yuri look

1275
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: really good against Jamal Hill. We talked about some of

1276
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: the differences taking defense seriously, and it only made him better,

1277
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: it only made him more dead or it only made

1278
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: him deadlier. And so for that reason, like I kind

1279
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: of want to see how he does with all with

1280
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: this new perspective and a lot of different scenarios, but

1281
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: we just can't feed. We don't have any interesting contenders. Honestly,

1282
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: I think is the only one Olbert fights Yuri. I

1283
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: think Yuri shoves him into the woodship Ornest. Yeah, but

1284
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: then if he does, you're just gonna have Yeeri potentially

1285
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: against Poeton again because Polton could win the rematch, you know,

1286
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: you never know.

1287
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they would do that.

1288
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: Again.

1289
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: And let's see a wholesome moment. We can talk over this.

1290
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: No volume at the hotel afterwards. Oh there is volume.

1291
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: Now there's no volume. So that is Olberg going up

1292
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: to Blokhovich and ultimately, look the So the message was

1293
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 2: he urged Jon not to retire, told him he doesn't

1294
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: want him too, told him he still has it obviously

1295
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: Yan's a great dude, So they raised a pint together.

1296
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go nuts on

1297
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: Bushido because we got enough toxic trash.

1298
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: In this sport.

1299
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: So it feels good on that.

1300
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1301
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: But do you think he on at forty two should

1302
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: carry on?

1303
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think I don't. I wouldn't say that

1304
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: very normally, but I think he does have to be

1305
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: careful with his matchmaking, yes, because he looks to me

1306
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: like he still wants to get back and that one

1307
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: more push for the title. I don't know if that's

1308
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: in the cards, to be perfectly honest with you, although

1309
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: I guess at light heavyweight you're never that far away.

1310
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: But I get the thing that I say, the thing

1311
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: that I would have concern about is he tries to

1312
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: keep going for this and then ends up fighting somebody

1313
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't and then, for the first time ever,

1314
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: really gets hurt. Yeah, and that would give me.

1315
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: Some concern get blanked by my head tap back and middleweight.

1316
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: Back in the day, okay, but at two oh five

1317
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: words devastating, Yeah, Yeah, but I see I think is

1318
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: has he ever been stup?

1319
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: I thought long on, can I remember now you got

1320
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: the internet r in front of you.

1321
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Who are we talking about right now? I'm Toovich.

1322
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: Wellhovich didn't he get ko by Maheta viciouslyep although it

1323
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: was like back at midleweight back in the.

1324
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: Day, so look I might have been at two five. Yeah, exactly.

1325
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: So he lost to Jimmy Mannon with via decision. He

1326
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: lost to Gustafson and Patrick Cummins via decision. He lost

1327
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: to Thiago via ko in the third round. But I

1328
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: think that's a two to five because I think he

1329
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: had moved up to Thiago, that is, Yeah. And then

1330
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: he lost to Glover. He got subbed out by Glover.

1331
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: He lost to Maga mat or there was a draw anyway,

1332
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: Well the Glover was the title shot.

1333
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the title defence.

1334
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: So he's got the draw to Maga mat and then

1335
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: he has the back to back losses to poets Hon

1336
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: and Olberg. But here's my point, he's lost four of

1337
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: his last five. Yes, that is a problem.

1338
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. I got clowned from my Gooner Nelson

1339
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: pronunciation the other day. Don't people remember, like five years ago,

1340
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: there was a point where that UFC was trying to

1341
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: tell us that that's the way you pronounce it, and

1342
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: then everybody just gave it up after that.

1343
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: That is correct. There was a moment, there was a

1344
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: brief moment where they were trying to tell us it

1345
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: was gooner, but I think Gooner's got a different meaning now.

1346
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: Gunnar Nelson went in there against Kevin Holland in a

1347
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: welterweight about There's a lot of crazy grappling sequences, some

1348
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: good moments of ground and punp from Holland. Ultimately, Holland

1349
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: takes a three round unanimous decision. Luke, we talked so

1350
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: much about Holland like always willing to be taking tough

1351
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: fights last minute. He only cares about fighting four or

1352
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: five times a year. He's the new cowboy. Like this

1353
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: kind of is a good thing that he came out

1354
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: there with that performance. But are you I'm still wary

1355
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say.

1356
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: For the future. I dude, I gotta tell you, I

1357
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: thought this was a very good performance from Kevin Holland.

1358
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: We said it on Friday, Man, Kevin Holland is a

1359
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: skilled fighter, but he wants to. Yes, he when he

1360
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: wants to, he's good. I mean, there is simply no argument.

1361
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be fighting at eighty five, and

1362
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: I saw what he had to say. I think you

1363
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: have the clab. Let's play this clip because this one

1364
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: just bummed me the fuck out. Man.

1365
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 11: If it's one hundred and seventy pounds, then you know,

1366
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 11: let's be smart.

1367
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: I got that same computer.

1368
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 11: Let's be smart, and I'll freaking you know, I'll possibly

1369
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 11: do you know, a couple months down the road, then

1370
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 11: another one a couple months down the road. If it's

1371
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 11: one hundred and seventy pounds, probably only get two more

1372
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 11: in this year, three at the most if it's one

1373
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 11: hundred and eighty five pounds, so I can fight there

1374
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 11: every fucking weekend.

1375
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 10: One question for me, what are you going to do

1376
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 10: now you're done with fighting for it for today?

1377
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 11: Now that I'm done fighting today, I haven't smoked weed

1378
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 11: in a little bit, so I'm pretty sure somebody in

1379
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 11: the at the hotel I have some, and I'll burn

1380
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 11: that back like it's just a tree stow. The amount

1381
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 11: of money I make these days, I could slow down.

1382
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 11: The amount of money I make these days, I could

1383
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 11: definitely slow down, But the amount of money I spend

1384
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 11: these days, I stay active.

1385
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Cowboys Ronnie used to say. He'd be like,

1386
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: I want to fight four times, five times a year

1387
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: because I want to buy this boat.

1388
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: That's but you know, I mean, it's like the Chris

1389
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: Litel approach where you you know you might win, you

1390
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: might lose, but you rack up enough bonuses you can

1391
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: put your kids through college and get, you know, get

1392
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: some retail property.

1393
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: So I'm asking, is this a strategy from Holland or

1394
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: does it just play into his personality.

1395
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if he can reasonably keep himself safe

1396
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: where we're doing this doesn't put him at I mean,

1397
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: fighting more frequently is going to be more is going

1398
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: to be worse for your health than not fighting at all, obviously,

1399
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm trying to say is if

1400
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: you're completely and totally punting on the idea that you

1401
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: need to maximize your ability to climb the ladder to

1402
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: fight for a title, and that there's another business model

1403
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: that you can take advantage of and still be famous.

1404
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: You don't get the highest high end of the purses,

1405
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: but you might get a pretty good one.

1406
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: And you might upset a big name all the way.

1407
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: And just fuck it. So it's frustrating for me to

1408
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: hear that. Also, like I'm worried about his spending habits.

1409
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: Remember he was like showing out ice and stuff, and

1410
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm like UFC fighters showing off their ice is like

1411
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: red Flag City. But the point either way, I'm glad

1412
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: that he is in a place where he doesn't have

1413
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: to have the title to get some financial stability and

1414
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: even comfort. But it is frustrating to watch a guy

1415
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: this good that I know, especially shut away.

1416
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: He's got wins where you're like, man, if he cared,

1417
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: and I think if he focused on grappling a lot too,

1418
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: Like there's a he moved down and wait and the

1419
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: motor was somehow even stronger, you know, But.

1420
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: You know what blew me away was in that first round, Dude,

1421
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Holland's guard was good. Yeah, it was defensively good.

1422
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: He didn't get past he was threatening with the submissions,

1423
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna threat. You're not gonna really submit,

1424
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: Gunner Nelson, That's really not gonna happen in all likelihood,

1425
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: and he stays jacked by the way he does stay jack.

1426
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: But the thing I'm trying to point out is you're

1427
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: probably not gonna sub him, but he was definitely keeping

1428
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: him honest. He was definitely keeping him honest the whole time,

1429
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: which by itself, you're not getting past and you're threatening

1430
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: at least a little bit with the guard. Dude, that's

1431
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: hard to do. And then he dropped him at the

1432
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: end of the first I was like, dude, Kevin Holland

1433
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: is freaking good when he wants to be.

1434
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: When he wants to be, that's the question. Meet Paul

1435
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: Molly will no longer be around Molly McCann and what

1436
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: turned out to be her final about here did give

1437
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: us a nice moment with the Liverpool crowd and you

1438
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: saw Patty Pimblet crying, but it came after her first

1439
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: round mission lost to Alexia Tainara Luke. This is where

1440
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: I really regret the UFC YouTube police that prevent us

1441
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: from showing any form of broadcast footage of any event anymore,

1442
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: because even though this topic, and even though the fallout

1443
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: of this bout will be about that that meteor that

1444
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: was the meat ball Molly experience that came through and

1445
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: gave us some spinny shit and got a barstool's sponsorship

1446
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: and all that, but tay Nara's dance to the cage,

1447
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: which was very Michel Pereira esque, but the celebration dive

1448
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: slash twork grind into like the monster logo in the

1449
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: center of the cage was one of the most unhinged,

1450
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: incredible moments in UFC history, up there with Big Boy

1451
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: Chris Barnett doing the flip and the split and all that. Uh,

1452
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: can we talk about that dance? First? Is this is

1453
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: Tyinara even good? Because I got some Fiona vibes. I've

1454
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: got some theatrical Demopolis vibes. This could be musty TV

1455
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: every time out.

1456
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: She was full of life, was she not? I mean,

1457
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm being serious, she was what she was full of wine,

1458
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: Pam dude, Like, my daughter will go around the house

1459
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: yelling and you know she she won't hear this. She's

1460
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: not necessarily Aretha Franklin when it comes to singing, Oh

1461
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: come on, let it go, please, Okay, well let it go,

1462
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: let it go. So my point is, though it doesn't

1463
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: matter right because she's joyful. She brings joy to the house.

1464
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: She's happy to saying. You know, she's full of life too.

1465
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: Don't like that.

1466
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: You just not do this?

1467
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 7: Please?

1468
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: When I even like mention this kind of thing around

1469
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: my daughter. What I'm trying to make is I don't

1470
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: know how good she is because frankly, I don't really

1471
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: know what it means to beat Molly McCann. It's certainly

1472
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: not nothing, and by the way, to do it on

1473
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: like insanely short notice that is impressed.

1474
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: Not in Liverpool but in the UK there. It's a

1475
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: big one.

1476
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: It's a big one. I think the thing I would

1477
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: come away with is, do you now have interest in

1478
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: seeing what's next for Tainara in a way that perhaps

1479
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: you never imagined before. Yeah, I guess I would imagine that.

1480
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: I'd long island. Look what was the main card minute

1481
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: live reaction like to the celebration and submission from well dude.

1482
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 5: We were all saying she's going to gas out in

1483
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 5: two minutes. But I will say I was calling all week,

1484
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 5: was gonna arm bar Molly. I am happy she got

1485
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 5: the sub, but I was calling the arm bar so

1486
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 5: a little bummed the.

1487
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: Molly fought off that first deep choke attempt aggress Well,

1488
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: remember she Tinara had to offend off the sub attempt

1489
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: for Molly, then take the back then go for the sub.

1490
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: Didn't quite work. She had the one handed bit and

1491
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: then she readjusted and got the buy. I think it

1492
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: was a bicep grip. Whatever it was, you know, it

1493
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: was good work by her. And then she did the

1494
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: diving TOWRK. I'd never seen diving twice. I've seen some torking,

1495
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: you know. I I've seen some towerking in my days,

1496
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: but I'd never seen a diving torque like that.

1497
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: As marine, as an ex marine, there's no such thing

1498
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: of you. You definitely have seen it.

1499
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: Lude. Can I just tell you the absolute ash trade,

1500
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: washed up fucking husks of former humans that I've seen

1501
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: doing stripping in strip clubs in the smallest, worst town

1502
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: ever imaginable.

1503
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we keep those stories to ourselves.

1504
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: I've seen I went to uh I went to a

1505
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: strip club once and the girl who was like the

1506
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: afternoon because you know it was daylight, because I'm a

1507
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: fucking degenerate, Well.

1508
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: They got a buffet.

1509
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: Do you think the tater tots at strip clubs at

1510
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Camelot in New York, Camelot in d C. Which is

1511
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: first of all, I've been thrown out of there. I've

1512
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: been thrown out of Camelot and I've eaten the buffet

1513
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: Here's what I want to point out though. I one

1514
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: time I went to one in the middle of the afternoon,

1515
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: and you know, they don't put like the full array

1516
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: of dancers in the middle of the day. The one

1517
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: that was there was taking shots with all the patrons

1518
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: and then fell off the poll because she was so

1519
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: drunk and had They had to come and like like

1520
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: take her backstage, and there was like a like an

1521
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: hour long intermission where they didn't have anybody on stats.

1522
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: They play music during thession and I waited the full

1523
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: intermission because I was pathetic in my twenties, just a

1524
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: little how.

1525
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: We transition from that story into this, But Luke, how

1526
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: will you remember Molly McCann, who who look was an

1527
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: honest fighter with a good backstory and a lot of

1528
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: charisma and spunk and went all in on her fight's

1529
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: win or lose. How do you remember Molly McCann. I

1530
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: mean feel like I'm trying not to.

1531
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: No, it's not even I'm not gonna sit her to

1532
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: be disrespectful about it. I mean she had She was

1533
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: a reasonably important figure as a newer generation of UK

1534
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: stars emerged on the MMA scene.

1535
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: The Robin to Patty's Batman.

1536
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I think it was important for big

1537
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: personalities to get out there and carry the flag for

1538
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: the UK, which she did. She absolutely did. She played

1539
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: a big role, you know in terms of like best

1540
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: wins and like what her career meant and all that stuff.

1541
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, it never really got out to any kind

1542
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: of degree where you have to assess that sort of thing,

1543
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: but I think we can all agree she was a

1544
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: personality and an identifiable figure for the fan base for

1545
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: that era of fighters, and you know she did well

1546
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: for herself.

1547
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: Removed by Patty Tears on the way up. No, all right,

1548
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas said what he said. So Luke John of

1549
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 2: Bannon of Ireland had a quite a turnaround from getting

1550
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: head kicked by her opponent and getting floored to turning

1551
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: that into a arm bar of sorts and a spectacular win.

1552
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: But this was very regional mma.

1553
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: Like, to be fair, a win like that should never

1554
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: happen at the UFC to move ahead one time or

1555
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: defend Kujitomar doing nothing to defend that arm bar other

1556
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: than a little bit of standing. Basically, these type of.

1557
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: Fight stand prefers ultimately like being straight up and honest.

1558
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: That is the type of fights he prefers.

1559
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: Those are TV fights, I guess to an extent. I mean,

1560
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: I do think he likes like the high level guys too,

1561
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: but that listen, I'm gonna say it again. Every part

1562
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: of MMA has its place. Yes, amateur MMA has its place, regional, international,

1563
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: and then full on world level, but that is very

1564
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: far from world level MMA, and it's on a world

1565
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: level card and I don't I don't want that from

1566
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: the premiere MMA organization. I want, you know, either world

1567
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: level MMA or something very close to it. This is

1568
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: a far cry from that. So I'm like, I give

1569
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: Bandon credit like that's she got. She got drilled and

1570
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: then rallied. That's not easy to do. She's obviously got

1571
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: some like significant heart credit sewer like that's tough to do.

1572
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: But in terms of skill development, there's a long way

1573
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: to go between those two being anywhere approximating world level.

1574
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: I know you don't speak Reddit, but your delivery of

1575
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't want that was so in tune with Theovonne

1576
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: on his last episode of King and the Sting when

1577
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: Hot Chip tried to put that hot Chip between them

1578
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: to ease the awkwardness.

1579
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: Of not seen this.

1580
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: Oh Okay, there you go. H could you tell me

1581
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: something on this UFC London undercard that I probably didn't

1582
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: watch that you enjoyed or want to talk about with

1583
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: the people.

1584
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: The prelim card was. I don't think everyone's favorite, if

1585
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: I can just be honest, right, I don't think everyone

1586
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: loved it per se. I will say this best fight

1587
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: on the prelim card probably gonna be the Cavanaugh dos

1588
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: Santo's fight, or or you could go another direction. You

1589
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: could go, yeah, now you could probably yeah, you can

1590
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: go that direction. I have to say Jordan Vusenek, who

1591
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: I do think is a good fighter, he also had

1592
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: an insanely bad decision in that fight with Chris Duncan.

1593
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: He also shoots for a takedown eighty million miles away, right,

1594
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: eighty million miles away. It gets stuffed, all right, But

1595
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: then they separate eventually and he has another shot, and

1596
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: then he runs him back into the fence while he's

1597
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: doing well on the feet and clearly is much smoother

1598
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: on the feet than Duncan, and then still elected to

1599
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: run him back into the fence. I found that absolutely baffling.

1600
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: He is much much much better than that. I think

1601
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna want that one back big time long.

1602
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: Alan, Look, I know you, I know you love something

1603
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 2: that happened on that undercard.

1604
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 6: I know it.

1605
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 5: It was on the main card, but the main card

1606
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 5: opener Nathaniel Wood Morgan Sharry Air.

1607
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: That was a great fight.

1608
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 5: Nathaniel would look damn good on the feet he dropped

1609
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: Scherry Air one.

1610
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: I've been won at featherweight, right.

1611
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good fight worth going back to watch,

1612
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 5: all right.

1613
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 2: No one delivers like Luke, no Sita. Let's go to

1614
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: topic number four, and what a delivery from Rod Tang.

1615
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: It was One Championship one seventy two, a Sunday pay

1616
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 2: per view. Unfortunately, though, there was so much demand on

1617
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: the website that it crashed and One had to give

1618
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: the pay per view away for free, which it still

1619
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: is on their YouTube channel right now. It was Rod

1620
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 2: Tang versus Takieru and as uh Oh Timothy Wheaton last

1621
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: week shot out on them, k by the way, our

1622
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: great performance to set the stage, dude. He made that

1623
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: feel like we're gonna watch Hogan versus Andre Russelmannia three right,

1624
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: Like I was ready for that shit.

1625
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he was lying to us. It just

1626
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: didn't know.

1627
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: This is great, So Luke, let's talk about it first round.

1628
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 2: K oh wow. Despite the website issues, as we mentioned,

1629
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: UH one one seventy two successively captured a good like

1630
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: chunk of the combat sports attention from the weekend, and

1631
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: maybe rightfully so, how impressive in your eyes was the

1632
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: eighty second finish KO round one? Rod tang over to Caro.

1633
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: I gotta say one thing, man, I went back and

1634
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: I watched this. I missed it live, so I had

1635
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: to go back and look and I rewatched it again. Man,

1636
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: is it?

1637
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 5: Me?

1638
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm wrong. By the way, Long Island,

1639
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: did you watch one?

1640
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 6: No?

1641
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 5: I was not up at three am on Saturday.

1642
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: Dude. They made it look big. They made it. We

1643
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: always talk about that here, like what the promotions can do.

1644
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously we know the UFC can do that,

1645
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: but like can the other ones? They they did by

1646
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: the time.

1647
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: My super arena, you know you're getting a crowd.

1648
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't think they sold out necessarily,

1649
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: but they had a pretty good attendance and the lighting

1650
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: and the stage and then the ramp, Like, dude, one

1651
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: did a really good job with that. I have to

1652
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: give credit where credit is due. I thought that they

1653
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: made they made it count when it was supposed to count. However,

1654
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: it just ended in eighty seconds basically off. I'm not

1655
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: even joking two left hooks, a brutal one. But yes,

1656
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: so I have to say I do think that rod

1657
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: Tang like this win will propel him in ways that

1658
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Edgar Tabaries fight is not gonna do

1659
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: much for him and it didn't mean much, but this

1660
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 1: one will. But if I can just be honest, and again,

1661
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,919
Speaker 1: we are not kickboxing experts by any stretch of the imagination,

1662
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: but the kickboxing experts warned us heading into this contest

1663
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: that to Caeru was kind of considering retirement at different stages,

1664
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: especially after the Superleg fighter. You know, with his leg

1665
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: all messed up, and this is a guy who just

1666
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: is a head down brawler and it kind of caught

1667
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: up with him. It looks to me like his ability

1668
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: to resist a shot has been significantly diminished now Ratan

1669
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: landed to excellent shots on him.

1670
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: Rod Ting said coming in that he didn't believe Takara's

1671
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: leg had healed from the Superlex fight, and that he

1672
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: did attack it early and when after.

1673
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: Yes, no doubt about it. He went after it too,

1674
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: But it just seemed to me like, if you've built

1675
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: a style on just hard gym wars, hard sparring, brawling out,

1676
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: you can do that for a while. But I think

1677
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: Takaro's thirty three, almost thirty four years of age. He

1678
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: looks based on everything I'm trying to understand what the

1679
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: expert say, it looks to me like that bill has

1680
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: come due. Yeah, the bill has come due, and he

1681
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: simply doesn't have the resistance anymore to be in fights

1682
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: like that against Rottang, who, by the way, rod Tang

1683
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: has been in what like three hundred plus some absurd

1684
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: number of fights. They call him the iron Man. They're

1685
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: not all built like rod Tek.

1686
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: There is a difference, though. Rod Tang, who missed waited

1687
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: a bunch lately and was kind of starting to be

1688
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: criticized as he making too much money living, you know,

1689
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: living eye off that and not focused. He would say

1690
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: afterwards that the recent weight miss has turned out to

1691
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: be a huge wake up call. He hired a full

1692
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: time nutritionist for the first time, and that's why you

1693
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: saw him coming so ripped. Now we didn't get to

1694
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: see that. Guest take on full display. But it shows

1695
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: you that this was a refined version to some degree.

1696
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: And then maybe to your point.

1697
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: To Carou hang On one has been trying to turn

1698
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: this guy into a big star, and they think they've

1699
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: done a pretty good job. But to the point you

1700
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: raised the weight, misses. He did lose to Superlek in

1701
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: September of twenty twenty three, did Rod ting right, Rod

1702
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 1: teg Yes, Yes, And of course he lost to Demetrius

1703
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: Johnson and in that weird fight. All the way back

1704
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, he's had some They didn't exactly

1705
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: know what to do with him at times, and even

1706
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: when they did, he didn't necessarily showed up. This time

1707
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: he did do all of those things. This time he

1708
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: crossed all the t's and dotted all the eyes and

1709
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: then two left hooks, just just dispatched with Takaru.

1710
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's see the bushido and the prost fight press

1711
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: conference afterwards, as Takaru and Rod Tank got together and

1712
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: embraced and you love to see that. Unfortunately, Takiu, we

1713
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: don't have the video, but he walked out of the

1714
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: arena after the loss with like head down in shame,

1715
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 2: which you understand. The honor and the pride that comes

1716
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: with that area of the world and the sporting culture.

1717
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 2: Let's now hear from Chatri Sid Yongtong, the CEO of

1718
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: one of what could be next here for Rod Tank

1719
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 2: see next for him? Actually, the next fight for Rut

1720
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: Tank is going to be Haggardy. We're doing Hagardy versus

1721
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 2: Roud Tank next one.

1722
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: But of course Tank has many fights for him. Now

1723
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: you know.

1724
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: You can call his shots. Now you'll find anybody like

1725
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: will fight anybody. It was Takiu afterwards said, who told

1726
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: Chhatri he wants an immediate rematch with rod Tang. I

1727
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna get that Jonathan Haggerty that

1728
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: you mentioned. It would be a trilogy. Rod Tang has

1729
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: a knockout and a decision win. But Rod Ting got

1730
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: stripped of his Muay Thai belt because he missed weight,

1731
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: So this would be an opportunity if they put the

1732
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: title on.

1733
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: The Lasso has had some difficulties more recently, so I

1734
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: don't know if I mean, I guess they're gonna do it,

1735
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: but you know what's what happens.

1736
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: Well, the crowd went nuts for rod Tang and watched

1737
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 2: this bit afterwards, he hadn't taken his gloves off yet,

1738
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: he was asked for an autograph. Is this normal? I've

1739
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: never seen this in combat sports. So he just did

1740
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: the I'll sign it with my mouth bit. You know,

1741
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: whatever works, whatever works, right. Also after the fight, rod

1742
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: Ting was back in his hotel room playing FIFA. Watch

1743
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: this celebration from a big victory. Yeah, that's a I

1744
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: like to look.

1745
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: I like that.

1746
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: How can I incorporate that into into MK? You think

1747
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: I got to stand up and do that more often?

1748
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: Right, I'm just gonna point out soccer we see you

1749
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: should learn to watch it.

1750
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I have, you know, I mean I

1751
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: danced on my couch when Landon Donovan scored that goal

1752
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: in like twenty times Algeria. Yes, it was a big

1753
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: moment in my life.

1754
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: As you watched the US men not yesterday that you know,

1755
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: look at me, they're dog shit.

1756
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 2: Well that's prob dog Why uh, let's hit anything else

1757
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: on that. We had super Luke by the way, missing

1758
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: weight and then he would drop a three round decision

1759
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: to now beil Anana. And it's not normal that super

1760
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: like loses. Dude, that guy's brose and is ridiculous. He

1761
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: beat both to Cairo and Roday.

1762
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: He also failed the way in protocol between hydration, Yes,

1763
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: and it was an issue for him. Dude again, I'm

1764
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna probably mispronounce her name. I did go back and

1765
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: watch to see how it was pronounced it, but you

1766
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: heard a few different ways on the broadcast. But Masaaki

1767
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: NOII defeating Taiwan Chai, Taiwan Chai, I looked this up.

1768
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: I have it here in front of me, according to

1769
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: some of the betting odds and of various places. I

1770
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: won't say exactly where, but you had NORII closing at

1771
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: plus six hundred in certain places, with Taiwan Chai at

1772
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: minus nine hundred in a bunch of different spots. This

1773
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: was a gigantic upset. Hit him hard, left hook to

1774
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: the body, then came over the top, dropped him again,

1775
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: left hooks doing all of the work here between the

1776
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: main and the comain. But just to see a guy

1777
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: who got match made hard, apparently early in his one run,

1778
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: kind of began to turn things around. Had a rough

1779
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: start in this fight, to which I looked real good

1780
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: in the first round, but he kind of slowly stuck

1781
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: with it and then bodied him in that third round.

1782
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: Huge And you know, obviously for the Japanese it sucked

1783
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: that to Caeru lost, but to have no Earie win

1784
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: in the Comaine was a huge deal for them. So

1785
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: at least the Japanese market got to get their back

1786
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: scratched a little bit.

1787
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there anyone one does get creative? They're not

1788
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: afraid to put their champions against each other multiple times,

1789
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: They're not afraid to put Rod Teng in the DJ

1790
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: crossover match. Is there an MMA fighter personality that would

1791
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: work in another hybrid match with Rod Teng that one

1792
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 2: would have access to and also would be the kind

1793
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: of thing where we'd be like, oh shit, that's like

1794
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: mythical matchmaking. Like is there like a close to retired

1795
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: small like somebody like Patricia somebody like that?

1796
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: You could have done something with him, But obviously that's

1797
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 1: that door is now closed because.

1798
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: That would have been gnarly if they did a mixed

1799
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: rules match with those guys.

1800
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how that. I

1801
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

1802
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's one one seventy two. It seems like a

1803
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: win overalls.

1804
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: Adreana Moriich losing in the first round to Lakamatsu.

1805
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 2: In the rematch, and this was for the vacantile.

1806
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't believe that. I was very surprised by that.

1807
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: I'm not long of Terminator too. Didn't he take over

1808
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: Ioki in that one?

1809
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Wait? So Auk fought follying Yeah from the Filipino guy. Yes,

1810
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: and then went on a tweet spree shitting on chatrian one.

1811
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: Did you see that?

1812
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 3: No?

1813
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Japanese, but he did it.

1814
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 5: I don't.

1815
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't quite know what that's all about.

1816
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, let's go to topic number five,

1817
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: and it was a death in the combat sports world

1818
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: over the extended weekend. And this one hit big because

1819
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about Big George Foreman, who wasn't just an

1820
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist, two time heavyweight champion, and maybe the

1821
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: author of the greatest comeback in sports history when he

1822
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: won the heavyweight championship at the age of forty five

1823
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four to set a new record when

1824
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: you factor in the grill selling the fact that people

1825
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: forget he had a sitcom on ABC in nineteen ninety

1826
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: three called George. We're talking about a household name over

1827
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: multiple generations, somebody that truly crossed over, and at age

1828
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: seventy six we said goodbye. No cause of death from

1829
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: his family as far as what I can see, but

1830
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: I think he was ill for a bit of late.

1831
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: His family did comment, Oh, would they say, I didn't

1832
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: see that in mission. I'll pull it up, give me

1833
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: a minute to here to find it.

1834
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: But Luke, so much you can say about this man's legacy,

1835
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: so much more than the typical death and combat sports.

1836
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: So from winning the gold medal to earning reportedly upwards

1837
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 2: of two hundred million over three decades for putting his

1838
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: name on the George Forman grill, which sold one hundred

1839
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: million units, by the way, to many things that go

1840
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: beyond the boxing ring. How will you best remember Big George.

1841
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: Form If I may, I would like to read this

1842
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: statement from his his family announcing this. Here's what they write.

1843
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: This is from the family of Joe Foreman. Quote. Our

1844
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: hearts are broken with profound sorrow. We announced the passing

1845
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: of our beloved George Edward Forman senior, who peacefully departed

1846
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: on that day surrounded by loved ones. A devout preacher,

1847
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 1: a devoted husband, a loving father, and a proud grand

1848
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: and great grandfather. He lived a life marked by unwavering faith, humility,

1849
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: and purpose. A humanitarian and Olympian, two time heavyweight champion

1850
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: of the World, he was deeply respected, a force for good,

1851
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: a man of discipline, conviction, and a protector of his legacy,

1852
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: fighting tirelessly to preserve his good name. For his family,

1853
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: we are grateful for the outpouring of love and prayers,

1854
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: and kindly ask for privacy as we honor the extraordinary

1855
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: life of a man we were blessed to call our own.

1856
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no cause of death. I don't know, not

1857
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 2: that it would matter, but necessarily, but a nice message

1858
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 2: from the family lider. Sure this hit a lot of

1859
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 2: people really hard, rightfully, So what's your George Foreman experience?

1860
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: How will you remember?

1861
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: I mean, we grew up as children of the nineties

1862
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: and it was such a big deal that he Okay,

1863
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: so if you grew up at the age that me

1864
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: and BC did, where you miss of course everything he

1865
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: did in the seventies live It takes time to go

1866
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: back and watch.

1867
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 2: The legend you grew up with that as legend, But then.

1868
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I like Chuck Minnenhall made a

1869
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: point like he beat Michael Moore in what ninety four?

1870
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: By ninety six the Olympics were taking place in Atlanta,

1871
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: and that's when Ali. I'm not trying to make fun

1872
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: of him in any way, but he didn't have a

1873
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: steady hand from Parkinson's as he was trying to light

1874
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: the Olympic torch. Just just about a year and plus

1875
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: before that, Foreman won the heavyweight title of the world.

1876
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: And they were the same era, and they were the

1877
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: same era. There's a quote, it's it's often misunderstood from

1878
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: acclaimed American author f. Scott Fitzgerald that there are no

1879
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 1: second acts in American life. But it really is not

1880
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: in the way he meant it in a different way,

1881
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: but in the way that it's misunderstood. People seem to

1882
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: think that, like, oh, whether there's no way to get reinvention,

1883
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: But of course we know that's not true. People reinvent

1884
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: themselves all the time. And there is nobody almost in

1885
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: sports who has done something like that to the degree

1886
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: that George Foreman did, where you are just one of

1887
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: these dominant figures beating Joe Fraser. That's the famous fight

1888
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: where you hear the down, goes fraserunds two rounds, and

1889
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: then he became a terrifying force. And then of course

1890
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: Ali beats him in one of the most important boxing

1891
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: matches ever. But then they forge a relationship and it

1892
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: changes him over time. He walks away from the sport,

1893
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: comes back ten years later in his late thirties, and

1894
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: then at age forty five, he won the heavyweight title

1895
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 1: of the world. Guys, I would like to give you

1896
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: some sense of proportion. I am forty five. My back

1897
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: hurts if I sleep on my side at night. And

1898
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: he won a world title at this age.

1899
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: I was after taking off ten years to be a preacher,

1900
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: retiring at the twenty eight.

1901
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: In one of his fights, he had said he'd heard

1902
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: the voice of God that called him to do this.

1903
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: He lost that contest.

1904
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: So was Jimmy Young, Jimmy seven, Puerto Rico. He was

1905
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: hallucinating backstage, he was dehydrated, and he had this moment

1906
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 2: of clarity of where he became a born again Christian

1907
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: and just gave up the sport with it.

1908
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: And then he again, he was on for such a

1909
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: long time, comes back and does the improbable. And by

1910
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: the way, when he came back on his comeback toward

1911
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: in the late thirties. He didn't win all those bouts

1912
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: nineties or late eighties. What I'm trying to say is

1913
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: and THENBC and then when we were in college, everybody

1914
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,839
Speaker 1: and their brother had the Foreman grill, and he became

1915
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: insanely wealthy from this. People don't forget remember this. His

1916
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: children also gained a degree of popularity, in part because

1917
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: all of his kids, including the girls, are named George.

1918
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: Boys. I don't think all the girls.

1919
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: The girls have George or Georgina or some some some

1920
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: derivation of Georgiett have it in the name.

1921
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 2: And that's because his mom had lied to him his

1922
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 2: whole youth, toling him a different guy was his father

1923
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 2: that she had married after his birth, but never revealing

1924
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: the identity of his real father, who they knew and

1925
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: was a member of their community. So he felt so

1926
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: betrayed that he never wanted his kids to not be

1927
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: known who they're linked to.

1928
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Speaker 1: I just I'm just saying, be see, it's it's remarkable

1929
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: when someone can achieve. It's remarkable when they can achieve

1930
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: at different stages, but when and it can achieve in

1931
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: so many different eras in so many different ways, and

1932
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: it's a different thing that powered George to be a

1933
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: heavyweight champion in the seventies versus why he became a

1934
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: champion in the nineties. He couldn't have done it trying

1935
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: to be the old guy now sorry, the older version

1936
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: of himself. I'm sorry. He had to be who he

1937
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: was at that time and then after that to have

1938
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: pop culture cachet. It's a remarkable life that won't soon

1939
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: be replied.

1940
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: No, I mean, and the key part. I wrote a

1941
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 2: column A lot of people read it on CBS Sports

1942
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: where it's not just how unique his career is that

1943
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: he has two Hall of Fame careers and one or

1944
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: the fact of just the comeback alone, right, I mean,

1945
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: that was the thirtieth fight of his comeback. When Michael

1946
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: Moore had picked him. People had left. He was coming

1947
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: off that kind of disputed loss to Tommy Morrison. Remember

1948
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 2: he had lost to Vander Holyfield, although he fought well

1949
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: for the title, and Moore had just beaten And Moore

1950
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: beats Holyfield, who we thought was done, and Moore is

1951
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: piecing up George for every second of nine and a

1952
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 2: half rounds until he lends back to back one two combinations,

1953
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: and by the way, people forget the one before the

1954
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: knockout put More out on his feet, and we didn't

1955
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: realize it to the degree that like when this knockout

1956
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: happened at George at forty five, I swear Luke for

1957
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: two days, we thought the fix was in. We thought

1958
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: the fix was in. And we have this graphic here

1959
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: of this great George Foreman quote about that, and this

1960
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: is obviously the crowning moment of his career in nineteen

1961
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: ninety four, where George said, sure the fight was fixed.

1962
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: I fixed it with my right hand. And if you,

1963
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: you know, you slow down the tape, you can see

1964
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 2: how short and perfect the big jab which put More

1965
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: right in front of him, and then that beautiful right hand,

1966
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 2: and that's, you know, the biggest win, the biggest moment

1967
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: of his career. But he was also in the Rumble

1968
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 2: of the Jungle, arguably the most popular and most famous

1969
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 2: fight of all time, and it was an epic self

1970
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 2: implosion and it led into even though he had the

1971
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: war with ron Lyley knocked out Fraser in the rematch,

1972
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: it led into that Jimmy Young fight in his life transformation.

1973
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: So I think the cool, the real crux of George

1974
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: Foreman's impact on society beyond boxing was that transformation. He

1975
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: was a sparring partner for Sonny Listen when he turned

1976
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 2: pro in the sixties, and he adopt did that bully

1977
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 2: menacing mindset. George Foreman dropped out of school in junior

1978
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: high in the segregated South, like came from poverty, got

1979
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: in trouble as a kid, becomes this killer in the ring,

1980
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: and he's got that mentality and he's got a hard heart.

1981
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: And going through that process of becoming a preacher, a

1982
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 2: born again Christian and then only getting back into boxing

1983
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 2: because they couldn't afford a new youth center, and he

1984
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 2: was praying and basically like, I guess the only way

1985
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: we can do this if I go back and fight.

1986
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: They didn't take him seriously as in the comeback for

1987
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: a long time. There were a lot of fights. He

1988
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: had thirty fights right to get to the moror fight

1989
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: and he delivers that moment. That alone is awesome. But

1990
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: what do we consider the two greatest eras in heavyweight history?

1991
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: That don't compare with nine.

1992
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: Seventies and nineties. He's the only guy who was in

1993
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: both and was on top in both and the fact

1994
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: that he put on the same pair of trunks that

1995
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: he imploded in Zayere against Ali, gassed out, frustrated, gets

1996
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 2: stopped in the eighth round down, you know, just an

1997
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: incredible maybe one of the biggest upsets in the history

1998
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: of the sport because people thought Ali was done at

1999
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: that point and he puts those trunks back on twenty

2000
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: years later and beats more with those trunks in a

2001
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: fight that he was losing every second of a for

2002
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: nine and a half round. I mean, it's just such

2003
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: a remarkable heart transformation, life transformation for him to have

2004
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: authored those two careers within one and everything he went through,

2005
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: and that's not even counting the grill and the fame.

2006
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: I really think that he leaned into that message when

2007
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: he was in his forties fighting of age is not

2008
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: a number. You can do anything you want. He literally

2009
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: became this inspirational figure to like everyone. He looked like

2010
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: your grandpa, telling jokes right like, and yet he's coming

2011
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: in there with those trays of cheeseburgers at the press

2012
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 2: conferences and his game was I mean, he always was

2013
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: not a even though he's a Olympic gold medalist, he

2014
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 2: always was not a traditional boxer. He always threw these crazy, hard,

2015
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 2: almost arm punches, but he took on Ken Norton's style

2016
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 2: in his comeback where he had that you know, that

2017
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: shell guard that was awkward and he became like, it's

2018
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: unfortunate the Mike Tyson fight didn't happen. In the nineties,

2019
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: there was an HBO card where they put both in

2020
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: the co Maine and Maine, and they both won, and

2021
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 2: they were going to match him together. But he fought

2022
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 2: as many people as he can get in the ring

2023
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 2: with him and who he reinvented himself with in the

2024
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: nineties in that era of killers and became the lineal heavy,

2025
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: which it's mind blowing, it's it's insane.

2026
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's your life has seasons. As you get all

2027
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to appreciate this if you're in your twenties,

2028
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: but your life has seasons, and a lot of times

2029
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: like seasons happen in a way where it's a repudiation

2030
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: of the last one or it's a withering of it.

2031
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 1: And sometimes the most successful people are the ones who

2032
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: don't fight it. They kind of ride it out to

2033
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: what it is and then decide it's gonna you know,

2034
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: let the seasons take them where they're supposed to go,

2035
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: almost as.

2036
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: It's our careers.

2037
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Luke to a degree, to a degree, but I just

2038
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: mean he did it to the to the highest level possible.

2039
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,480
Speaker 1: Everything about him was improbable, Everything about his success seemed impossible,

2040
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: and yet all of it was real.

2041
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 2: Got that twenty twenty three biography movie that that was

2042
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: a Hollywood script, that was his life. It fit perfect.

2043
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: Also, if I may, if you've never seen it when

2044
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: we were Kings? Yes, or we were kings? Excuse me,

2045
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: I forget the exact title. I rewatched it maybe a

2046
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: few months ago. It's the documentary that they made in

2047
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: the lead up to Ali and Foreman Fighting and Rumble

2048
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: in the Jungle. It is a spectacular work of.

2049
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 2: One in an oscar. Yeah, let's watch quickly. This was

2050
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: George two years ago at the age of seventy four

2051
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 2: when he hit the heavy back. I think we played

2052
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: this on. Have you seen this shit after it happened?

2053
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: But Big George still got it. We still got that

2054
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: power day paw.

2055
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 7: It doesn't age. Are you ready?

2056
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 2: Let me show what you got?

2057
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 6: Jack?

2058
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 3: What's it?

2059
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 6: Let's go?

2060
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy dude, Big George was a terrifying puncture.

2061
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,879
Speaker 2: Well, stud it, can you show that graphic of everyone

2062
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: that he ultimately faced. Look at this, like, who's who

2063
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: over a thirty year period, Ali Joe Fraser twice, Vander Holyfield,

2064
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Ken Norton, who he knocked out in two rounds, ron

2065
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 2: Lyle one of the greatest action fights of all time,

2066
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,799
Speaker 2: and then in his comeback he beats Burt Cooper, Dwight Muhamma, Kawei,

2067
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 2: Jerry Cooney, Shavallo, Michael Moore, Tommy Morris, and Shannon Briggs.

2068
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry Cooney told me about that fight. He was

2069
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,600
Speaker 1: unequivocal that he had never been hit by anybody, and.

2070
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: He hit him with that walking up the cut that

2071
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: sneaky when the car.

2072
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: He told me that four men hit him in a

2073
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: way where he They're like, there's not even a close second. Yeah,

2074
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: we could even think of that hit him as hard.

2075
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: He'll face first on the finish. And by the way

2076
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: that people were clowning, that fight wouldn't happened because they

2077
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 2: were like forty and thirty nine. It was called two

2078
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 2: geezers at Caesars, so we're calling it back then, dude,

2079
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 2: Jerry Cooney is a big duce seven.

2080
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like he would always come in and we

2081
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: were in serious XM. He would do the show after me,

2082
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: by the way, nicest guy in the world, absolutely, and

2083
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: I remember asking like, what was that like and he

2084
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't even really remember much, like

2085
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: it just was. It's a black in my memory.

2086
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 2: For the most Jerry Cooney is the sweetest man.

2087
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: You would never know.

2088
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 2: He was a you know, nearly won the heavyweight championship.

2089
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: He was terrifying too. And then for Big George just

2090
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: sit him down like that. Yeah.

2091
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,519
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2092
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,720
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2093
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2094
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2095
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2096
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2097
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2099
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2100
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Speaker 1: Oh god. Hey, by the way, did you see that

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Speaker 1: Dylan Danis and KSI fight with yea, yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: nothing of value was lost? Can you believe how fucking

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Speaker 1: sad that shit is? Anyway, Hey, let's hear from our

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Speaker 1: first listener.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. This is from at Eric Bolden. The

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01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: difference between the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: atmosphere at the O two in London is huge. Do

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Speaker 2: you think it is because of a lack of exciting

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Speaker 2: British superstars on the card. They're talking, of course about

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Speaker 2: Saturday's UFC London fight night card, or that the fight results,

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01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: or has the bubble began to burst the market. So look,

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Speaker 2: we talk about this, it's everything at once, but they're

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01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 2: specifically jacked up those ticket prices. The public seemed to say,

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01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: we're not gonna pay this if the biggest names aren't

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01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: on there. And although this fight had two very important

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Speaker 2: fights for their particular divisions atop it, and I'm fine

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01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 2: with that. I was fine with the undercard. It wasn't

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01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 2: bad like bad is in this era. I also get

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Speaker 2: why things went down the way they did in London.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wasn't happy. Even Adam Catterrell, of the Journalist, who

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01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: is always like pro UFC. He even tweeted out that

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01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 2: that was the most lifeless atmosphere he's been a part

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01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: of there. That stuff does matter if you're going to

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01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: jack the prices, but you're not giving Patty, you're not

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01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 2: giving you know, whomever r there.

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Speaker 1: And also they just didn't have you know, Tom Asmitall

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01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 1: wasn't fighting Patty. To your point, Patty wasn't fighting big

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01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: names weren't fighting I mean not. You know, Brady did

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01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: really well, but I think he's just at the beginning

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01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: of having big fights and so it takes time to

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01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: become a really known attraction. You know, people say, is

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01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 1: the bubble bursting. I don't think the bubble's bursting until

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01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: people are just stop buying tickets. Nothing's bursting, Okay.

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01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: But there's some there's some smoke.

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01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 1: People are expressing discontent. Fine, but I keep making this

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Speaker 1: point to people, like, nothing that you say in terms

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01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: of like, I don't like this means anything to any monopoly.

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01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: The only thing that means anything to them is your

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01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: abandonment of the business.

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Speaker 2: They don't look in the crowd and see the gaps

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Speaker 2: and that there were like before the main event.

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Speaker 1: I think if they pitch another tent in London and

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Speaker 1: it makes a good gaate, I don't don't think they care. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I like pitching the tent ones Well, you know what

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01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: I mean. It's you know what I mean, shit, I

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01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: also would like that. Lou kay. Let's go to our

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01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 2: second question from at spot three sixteen, where do you

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01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 2: ring Sean Brady against the best grapplers. I think he

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Speaker 2: became Dagistani after this performance.

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Speaker 1: It's but it's a little bit more like American jiu

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Speaker 1: jitsu based, you know, it's it's got a lot of it. Dude.

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01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: He hit a Socaian round one, he hit two doubles.

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01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: He hit the one kind of Uh, it's not called

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01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: a crackdown, but it's where you get behind and you

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01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: break the back of the knees to then pull them

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01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: and then use his own hook. So, I mean, he's

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01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: got so many different entries his Again, his top top

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01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: half is phenomenal. Obviously, I think Islam his MMA grappling

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01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: is probably the best in the in the overall, it

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01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: is probably best in MMA, But dude, Brady's got to

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01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: be top five for all overall all grappling. Again, I said,

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01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: his top half to me is like either maybe the

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: best or right at it. But overall skill, who would be?

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Speaker 1: Who else would you put in there? You did? Blaw

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01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: you put in there? Takedowns doesn't so sorry Arman Serukian say,

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01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: Hams out for sure, homs out for sure. Sorry, you

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01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: can again it has control problems.

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Speaker 2: The most impressive top half in women's.

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Speaker 1: M Luke Kayla, which you can get it.

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01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about wrestling sou Suarez, but but it

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01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 2: was you know, not effective in that title fight.

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01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 1: Uh Suarez as well and when she won. Well, you

2232
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: know there was a time. Anyway, Chef Chenk go to

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01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 1: a degree, you can use it. But again there's nobody.

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01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 1: And then again Dern has obviously phenomenal jiu jitsu, but

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01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: like really terrible takedowns.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so what are we forgetting on the men's side,

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01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: that's just an absolute wrestling machine.

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01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: We've lost a bunch of really interesting ones over time.

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01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: We lost jackaraies, like guys who are world champion grapplers.

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Speaker 1: We lost some Bristover Dooms and Frank Meres and Josh

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Speaker 1: Barnett's and stuff like that. Islam is pretty Islam is

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01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: up there. Habib would have been, but you know, obviously

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01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: he's not there anymore. Islam is probably again your overall

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01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 1: best grappler, your overall game is probably number one. But

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01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Brady is fucking up there.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 2: I thought Umar was up there, but then Morob was like, yo.

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01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: Hold this Morob as I hold that l Yeah, all.

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01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: Right, let's hear from the next fan at flannels and JITs.

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Speaker 2: You know this guy walks around. You know, he's probably

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01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 2: laying down in pajama pants all day long like I do,

2252
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 2: working from home. Mm hmm, But I don't think, who

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01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 2: do you think Showers lest this guy? All right? Do

2254
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: you watch uh, did you watch the NCAA Wrestling Championship.

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01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 2: Where does Wyatt Hendrickson upsetting Gable Steveson for the heavyweight

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01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 2: NCAA title there rank among the greatest upsets in NCAA history.

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01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 2: It's not quite Larry Owing versus Dan Gable, but it's

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01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 2: not nothing, Luke.

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01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I mean that was that's historically

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01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: one of the biggest ones. Dan Gable wasn't supposed to

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Speaker 1: lose that ever, and he did.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: Also Bubba Jenkins winning his senior year after leaving Penn

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01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 1: State and going Arizona State and then beating the guy

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Speaker 1: I forget who he beat for Penn State in the

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01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 1: in the finals to win the national title. Well, that

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01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 1: was big. They're saying this one is the biggest. I

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01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: don't know enough about NCAA wrestling to know like the

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01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: history of matchups and like the odds and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the conspiracy theories coming out

2271
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: that Gable lost on purpose just to push over Donald

2272
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 2: Trump and wrestling.

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01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that what's the relationship.

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01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 2: I tried to understand it too. I didn't fully get it,

2275
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: but almost like to create a moment that the world

2276
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: would come.

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01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 1: Look at, just sacrificed himself on the altar of Yeah.

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01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if but he is getting ripped because

2279
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 2: of the fact that Gable went to WW and failed,

2280
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 2: went to the NFL and failed, and then came back

2281
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: to college despite having been an Olympic medalist in a

2282
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 2: multi time.

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01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hid one three national title and the guy that.

2284
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 2: Upset him he had beat soundly. I mean, it happens,

2285
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 2: It happened to Dan Gable, it happens. It was a

2286
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 2: big moment, dude. The call was amazing.

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01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: Dude. Can I just say this. I know people get

2288
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: bitter at Daniel Cormier for his UFC commentary, He's I'm

2289
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 1: just gonna say it. I think he likes wrestling a

2290
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: lot more than he likes MMA, and I don't think

2291
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: that's crazy to say.

2292
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 2: I think I think Dana likes boxing and slapping a

2293
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 2: lot more than mixed mushal life. Right now, that's true,

2294
01:41:58,600 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 2: Like you could see.

2295
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 1: It in the belt. I agree, I agree. I think

2296
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Anyway, this one is if not number one,

2297
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: it's it's it's up there is it.

2298
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 2: Okay for the play by play announcer to scream, like

2299
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: matter of fact that this is the biggest upset. It

2300
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 2: reminded me of when Gus Johnson said that Seph Petrozzelli

2301
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 2: jabbing Kimbo slice was the biggest upset in history, and

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01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 2: it was a big one. I'll say things in the moment,

2303
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 2: they'll say, I love you after one night of second that.

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01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't the thing they really remember from from that. People

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01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 1: remember about Gus Johnson's MMA calls. It was when he

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01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: was watching the Nashville Brawl and goes, these things happened

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01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: right by the.

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01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 2: Way, gentlemen, we're on live television. Also, what do you

2309
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 2: make of the controversy of the Gable match going last?

2310
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 2: But then that meant that the first match of the

2311
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: entire show was that Penn State Kid driven to go

2312
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: under five titles five times because of the COVID year

2313
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: that they I mean.

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01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: It's always a debate about which which ones you want

2315
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: to put in which place, And they're trying to like,

2316
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 1: this is not the first time they've done this.

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01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 2: Why can't they just put them in order of the

2318
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 2: best best storylines in what matters?

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01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand why they can't. They

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01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: can't you have to kind of reach art. On the

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01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: same line, they did the same thing when Kyle Dake.

2322
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: So Kyle Dike won four national titles, and he did

2323
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: in four different weight classes. He went up each year.

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01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: His senior year, they moved his match to the finals.

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01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: It might have been against David Taylor. I'm not even sure,

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01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: but they moved that one to the finals. So they've

2327
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: done it before and it clearly worked out. There was

2328
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 1: some debate about that, about whether or not the kid

2329
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: from Penn State, Carter I forget to pronounce his last name,

2330
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: whether him going for five should have mattered, But I

2331
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 1: don't know. It seemed like it worked out to me. ESPN,

2332
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: by the way, the wrestling community not too pleased with

2333
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: the ESPN Plus service. I mean imagine that this would

2334
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: be somehow, you know, something that they didn't love. But anyway,

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01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: it was.

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01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: But it seemed like it was a really big night

2337
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 2: for Where was it. Do you know where the venue was?

2338
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,640
Speaker 1: It's usually in the Midwest somewhere. I don't actually know

2339
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 1: where it was.

2340
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Trump was Matt side like this was a

2341
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 2: big deal that wasn't.

2342
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: That surprising to me? The fact that Elon was there.

2343
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: I was like, don't you have shit to do? Stuff?

2344
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 2: Things are running efficiently right now. It looks so he

2345
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 2: had time on his hands.

2346
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: I've got people to fire.

2347
01:43:57,960 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. Do we have more questions from

2348
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 2: these great people at j d anal Foe four twenty Wow? Yeah,

2349
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 2: that guy impressed by Sebastian Fondora's KO of Cordel Booker

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Speaker 2: on Saturday in the PBC car.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, b C. I'm sure you did

2352
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 1: a great job. I did not see many highlights of

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01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 1: this on my timeline.

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01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 2: It was an efficient show though, three fights in two

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01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 2: hours and fifteen minutes in and out, on and off,

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01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 2: and although they did they did screw Terrell Gochet of

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01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 2: a decision went over ymas Elijah Garcia. He did miss

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01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 2: way by two tents of a pound. But the main

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01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 2: event Sebastian f Mondora ultimately put it on Cordell Booker,

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01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 2: who's a small south Paul tried to box him early.

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01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 2: I'll give fundor credit once he once he made some

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01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 2: adjustments in landa some big power shots. He got him

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01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: out of there. Top ranks Xander Zaiaz was there. They

2364
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 2: did they tried to do a face off, but the

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01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 2: Powers that b wouldn't let them. But Xander's Xander Zaiez

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01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: is the number one contender now the mandatory contender for Fundora.

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01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: So his promoter, meaning Fundora's promoter, Sampson Lukewitz, did say

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01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,799
Speaker 2: after the fight that they're they have a good relationship

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01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: with top rank. They think that could be the next fight.

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01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Do that'd be a.

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Speaker 1: Great Yeah, I'd like to see that the you know,

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01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: that'd be a great one.

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Speaker 2: But like we said in the preview, you could put

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01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 2: Fundora against and against anyone at one fifty four and

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01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. I want to get him eventually

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01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 2: into a Virgil Ortiz fight if he's still champion. I

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01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 2: want him to fight Zoo again, Thurman, Charlow.

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01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 3: On and on.

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01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 2: I mean, this division's great and fun. But did you

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01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 2: see the highlights? Did you see the fight?

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01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 1: All?

2382
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 2: Or is the Fundora's performance?

2383
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:22,799
Speaker 1: I saw the finish.

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01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you put it together. You put him on him,

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01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 2: you put him on there. Hey, Zeus Ramos one of

2386
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 2: the cole men. That could be an interesting opponent.

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01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: I've never seen a praying mantis integrate this well into

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01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: human society and then perform ably. But but Sebastian Fandora

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01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: has done it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, almost one year off. Shout out to that

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01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 2: on the PBC brought to you by by BC on

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01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 2: the call, thank you. We got any other questions from

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01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 2: these fine people from Kevin Underscore Mitchell Underscore seventy nine.

2394
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: With the insurgency of new talent making its way into

2395
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 2: the through the UFC, what are your top five camps

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01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 2: right now in MMA? And what makes each of those

2397
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 2: camps special in what they offer to the fighters? Luke,

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01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 2: who's the current super team of the moment.

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01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: At t ATT is probably up there. Fight Fighting Nerds

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01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 1: is up there.

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01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: Okay, what if we go ATT one fighting Nerds two?

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01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Does that put c KB at three?

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01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: C KB is up there? What do you got Long Island?

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01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 6: Luke?

2405
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 5: Kill Cliff over c KB?

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01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Kill Cliff probably is a fair call over c KB.

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01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: Are we disrespecting Ray? Ray Longo here?

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01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Longo? Mm A yetis Fortis these are Fortists is

2409
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 1: very good, but I think they've got more guys who

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01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 1: are like sub top five.

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01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 2: AKA needs to like rejuvenate.

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 1: They still are operating. I just don't think it's you know,

2413
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: they don't have like do.

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01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 2: We consider Anklive an AKA fighter? I'm not Live.

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01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's not much of to a degree. To a degree, yeah,

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01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, it's not his primary place.

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01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 2: But they wanted to know what these the question asker

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01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 2: wanted to know what these teams are specifically.

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01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: Kind of different, Like some guys, like you know, the

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01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: Fighting Nerds have this incredible creativity att just comprehensively good

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01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 1: coaching and facilities, saying with kill Cliff, shout out to

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01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: King Mo Ray Longo, I think has a special eye

2423
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: for talent, talent development, you know. So it's it's the

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01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: in between where you can get a lot of good

2425
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 1: work in there. But it's not a crazy ass super team,

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01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's all like what is the right fit

2427
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: for you kind of situation.

2428
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: It's a boutique coach like Trevor Whitman who can take

2429
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 2: you to the top another one.

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01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, Vegasyndic, Oh my god, dude, extreme couture.

2431
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: That could be a top three Would they be in

2432
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: the top three?

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01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Probably, so, dude. I mean again, like I was actually

2434
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: talking to I was texting him over the weekend because

2435
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 1: I was researching a guy I was wondering if it

2436
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: was one of his, and it wasn't. I won't say

2437
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: who it is, but the guy was like he was

2438
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: at he was at Extreme Couture for a year and

2439
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 1: then went to another gym and he was like, Hey,

2440
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: he's a good guy, but I didn't even work with him. Like,

2441
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 1: there are just so many incredible fighters coming and going.

2442
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 1: Some work with this coach, some work with that. It

2443
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: really is just what you're looking for, what teammates speak

2444
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 1: to you, what your needs are. But I think fighting nerds,

2445
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,440
Speaker 1: to me, just have this kind of like striking creativity

2446
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 1: and savagery. Savagery enjoy very special and unique.

2447
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Good ship from the people.

2448
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,839
Speaker 2: Don't forget Morning Combat at gmail dot com is your gateway,

2449
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 2: your your entry point into our system. Mikey will be

2450
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 2: listening and watching. Tell him that we said, I don't

2451
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 2: don't show them your piece, but we do want your

2452
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 2: fan subs for Friday. We do want your DM or

2453
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 2: your You're dead wrong, Sorry I spaced out there. Hey

2454
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 2: we got one more segment for you, and it's when

2455
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: your boy BC scours the globe on Sunday afternoon to

2456
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 2: try to find the good, the bad, the ugly, the

2457
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: highs and lows, the in between in combat sports. Really

2458
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 2: just trying to get as ridiculous as we can to

2459
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 2: make Luke Thomas emote. This one's called Have you seen

2460
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 2: this shit? Did you just let out a wet fart

2461
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:48,879
Speaker 2: during the heavy intro? I think you burped with your ahole.

2462
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 1: Listen, let me explain something to you. I will claim

2463
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: the bombs that I dropped. What I'm saying I burped?

2464
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 1: I really did? There you go? I mean, now that

2465
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, though, I might squeeze one out, just

2466
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: a big gag.

2467
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: And this room just fills with this disgusting let's call it.

2468
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: Tory is about to find out what I ate for

2469
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: dinner last night?

2470
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,719
Speaker 2: Can't you smell what the Luke was cooking?

2471
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: There?

2472
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Big weekend for Tom Aspinall to kick it off. Not

2473
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 2: only was Aspinall shown on the screen here during the

2474
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 2: UFC London Cars was so fucking up a duck aimed

2475
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: at John.

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01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: I just want to point out, just lead us picture up.

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01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Is this the most British group of males you've ever

2478
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: seen in your life?

2479
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 2: It looked like Bobby the brain Heenan on top left

2480
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 2: above him.

2481
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: But you know what the guy was, Okay, you see

2482
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: where it says at Jedi Goodman that ever left one.

2483
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: The guy next to it looks like some version of

2484
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: Pauli Melanaji. Yeah behind us, but every other guy looks

2485
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: like the most British man alive. I just want to

2486
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: point that out.

2487
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: That kind of looks Bronzetatter a young Bronzetter on the right.

2488
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 1: Right, like, yeah, but only after he's been in like

2489
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: someone's political science department as a TA for the last

2490
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: couple of years.

2491
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: He told us he was a high school athlete. You

2492
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 2: still don't believe him, though, I believe that.

2493
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: The question is like, did you go to high school

2494
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 1: with the kind of people I went to high school with?

2495
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 2: Because if you did, you want to maybe Also, Aspinall

2496
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 2: posted this pick with Hunter Campbell of UFC and mister

2497
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 2: Aspinall with the with the quote stay tuned.

2498
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm tired of these non updates.

2499
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 2: All right, Well it's getting update from the boss himself.

2500
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 2: Here's Dana White before UFC.

2501
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 6: London talking point in British Pikes Martial Arts and I

2502
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 6: suppose World Martial Arts right now is what's going on

2503
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 6: in the heavyweight division because there's British interest with Tom aspinall.

2504
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Come on, man, yeah, that's give it, give us a

2505
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 2: little bit of something. Can the fans get excited about

2506
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 2: the super fight.

2507
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what I've been telling you since day one.

2508
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 8: The fight's gonna happen. The fight's gonna happen. It's just

2509
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 8: a matter of when now and getting it signed and

2510
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 8: done and the fight will happen.

2511
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 2: Do you have a cutoff point in your mind of

2512
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 2: when to get that? No, it's gonna happen.

2513
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 8: It's it's it's it's it's done.

2514
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:50,719
Speaker 1: But it's not done.

2515
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 8: Uh, not done enough to sit right here now and

2516
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 8: announce it and and give you a date. But the

2517
01:50:58,200 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 8: fight's gonna.

2518
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 2: Happen with that that, if I could just poke a

2519
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 2: little bit, is it more on logistics rather than they

2520
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 2: would go on and just continue to walk around it

2521
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 2: without stepping on it.

2522
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,719
Speaker 1: What does that actually mean nothing?

2523
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 2: Does that mean we got the money and now we

2524
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: just need the location. Does that mean they both want

2525
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 2: it but we haven't hit the number yet, Because that's

2526
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 2: a problem.

2527
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 1: If you haven't hit the number, it doesn't mean anything.

2528
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hold up is. But like

2529
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: all these things like stay tuned, big news coming.

2530
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 2: So I'm saying it's done, but it's not done. That

2531
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: doesn't give you optimistic hope like it did a lot

2532
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 2: of people in the internet.

2533
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't. It doesn't change anything. I've been

2534
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 1: kind of at a point emotionally. Yeah, fifty to fifty

2535
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: Did that change anything about fifty to fifty? Not not real?

2536
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 2: Don't talk to me about the birthing pain. Show me

2537
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 2: the head.

2538
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. I mean I again, I'm not

2539
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 1: saying in any way it won't happen. I absolutely hope

2540
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: it's the most important fight they can make. But let

2541
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: me know when there's a real update. All this other

2542
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: cryptic shit I don't care about.

2543
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 2: Well, look, UFC London proved to be a big week

2544
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 2: for what I love, the most real reckons in reel.

2545
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 2: Let's go backstage in the locker room before the main event.

2546
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 2: You'll want a champion showing some Polish love to her.

2547
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: Compatriot non national pride here for sure.

2548
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 2: I love that friendship, don't you.

2549
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's good for each of them, and for

2550
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 1: that I'm happy for.

2551
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know Mike Owen's media. We love that guy.

2552
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 2: He had a huge week. In fact, he was in

2553
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 2: a hotel room with jab Look at this guy sitting

2554
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 2: down for an interview and uh he looked like he

2555
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,839
Speaker 2: did well. So shout out to our boy from Liverpool

2556
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: there and you.

2557
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: Know I went out. He got an interview with her

2558
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: before I did. That's about that.

2559
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true because you don't want it, Luke.

2560
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 2: All right. Also, Patty Pimblet gave us this fist pump moment.

2561
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 2: What do you make of this?

2562
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 3: Is this?

2563
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 2: Like should they keep k Fabe alive? Here's the UFC

2564
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 2: way in to iliat right, Eliot Torporia is back there.

2565
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, they could have been talking ish, but they

2566
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: they show. I mean, what do I want? Do I

2567
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 2: want them to fist fight exactly?

2568
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: It's like what are they supposed to do? Right there?

2569
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 10: You know?

2570
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 2: There was also a real, recognizing, real bonus at the

2571
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 2: airport when Dia goes sand Chez and Bryce Mitchell put

2572
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 2: their heads together.

2573
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 1: I hope they they I don't know what.

2574
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 2: I hope they find Bjane help.

2575
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk bad, you know, just whatever, all right, Luke,

2576
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: But who in the UFC was the realist this week.

2577
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 2: You asked me off gamera. Yeah, Gillian Robertson was, oh,

2578
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: hell yeah. So she's ripping a bong while in what

2579
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 2: do you call that the sauna?

2580
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a it's like a portable sauna.

2581
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 2: Well look, is she your favorite fighter?

2582
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I brought.

2583
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 5: I saw this on social last week.

2584
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 1: I said, you better have it in. You should fire

2585
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: Gaff and do the main Card minute with her. He

2586
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: can just join us both, you know what. You could

2587
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: fire Gaff and break up with your girl and then

2588
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: Gillian Robertson can be both the Main Card Minute co

2589
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: host and your girl.

2590
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 2: That's that's not that's not right to say. It's on

2591
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 2: called for? You know what's on called for? To a

2592
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,679
Speaker 2: female Scottish NHL fan, I'm really sorry.

2593
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 3: I came all the way from Scotland. I thought the

2594
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 3: Leaks were going to win two games they lost. It

2595
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 3: must have been a fight that the guys were so overwhelmed.

2596
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 3: This my massive fucking chet lost concentration.

2597
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 1: I am sorry.

2598
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,679
Speaker 3: He let me sit on the bench.

2599
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 2: That's why the loss today.

2600
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 3: They were overcome by Scottish pheromones.

2601
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: They didn't know what they were doing bastard.

2602
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I bet

2603
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: she's fun to party with. Okay, yeah, I bet she's

2604
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: fun to party with.

2605
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 2: Luke. Have you ever seen race relations solved through dancing?

2606
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 1: Not exactly?

2607
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 2: Watch this, young gentleman.

2608
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: This is this is this cracker about the style.

2609
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 2: This is a great home right here by right?

2610
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: That's good, all right, all right, all right, all right,

2611
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: all right, let's let.

2612
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 2: The oh shh shit. This is like the movie foot

2613
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 2: LUs all over again.

2614
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: This is great.

2615
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Wow. We also have video of him when he by

2616
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 2: the way, tho.

2617
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I just want to point out it is typically in

2618
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 1: these exchanges it is not the white guy winning. This

2619
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: is a noteworthy difference.

2620
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 2: But if the white guy doesn't go unchecked, he'll end

2621
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 2: up like this man in this video. Watch this, all right, dad,

2622
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: can we put this away? Please?

2623
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean this, motherfuer I know.

2624
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: You're on vacation, you're okay, okay, you know what.

2625
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:17,919
Speaker 1: This is why I don't go on cruises. Throw him overboard,

2626
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 1: just let okay, stop showing his ass.

2627
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's so good, all right. I remember alf Baldwin

2628
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: shot that person and killed him unfortunately on the movie set.

2629
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 2: Tragic he's got a story to tell about seeing his

2630
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 2: ex his what his wife's ex boyfriend's dong.

2631
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 12: I've seen one of the loves of her life naked.

2632
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 12: He was one of the loves of her life. He

2633
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 12: was a very important boyfriend of hers. And we wouldn't

2634
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 12: go see him on Broadway and he was naked in

2635
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 12: his whole as our British friends han his bits out

2636
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 12: who wanted to go see Take Me Out, the musical

2637
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 12: that our dear friend Scott Ellis directed, And all these

2638
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 12: baseball players are in the locker room and they all

2639
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 12: turn around naked with their dogs hanging out, and there

2640
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 12: her boyfriend and I recognize him, I'm and when he

2641
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 12: turns around with his personnelity hanging, I'm like, oh, oh,

2642
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 12: oh okay, he had like a clarinet hanging from his pets.

2643
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: The guy literally turns around and we were all like,

2644
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: ah ah, woa.

2645
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 2: This more than I it kept going Luke, But I

2646
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 2: think he got the point. Does that not remind you

2647
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 2: of Mike cliff Robinson story from two thousand and six?

2648
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: Why couldn't Why couldn't he have been the one that

2649
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: got shot?

2650
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: I told you that story right where I went to

2651
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 2: a Nets game during Cliff the Lake, Clifford Robinson from

2652
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 2: Yukon's Lessons.

2653
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: He just had an absolute condom to the locker.

2654
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 2: Room before the game. It was like a regular season

2655
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 2: game against the Bucks and it was me, my co

2656
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 2: worker for we were working for ESPN at the time,

2657
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 2: and two female journalists came in but they didn't look professionally,

2658
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: look like college age girls, but they were. They were

2659
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 2: doing the job and they went right up to Cliff

2660
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 2: in the corner and we're interviewing him, and within thirty

2661
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 2: seconds while having a conversation, he dropped his paints and

2662
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: his underwear like in one motion and just stood there

2663
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 2: with yeah, and in the conversation just kept going and

2664
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 2: it kept going, and it was so awkward. It was

2665
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: so awkward. Wow, Okay, there you go. Uh, let's keep

2666
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 2: it going here. So this is Sky Sports Austria and

2667
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 2: this is a commercial break. Watch what this makeup lady

2668
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 2: comes running in with. She put a line on the

2669
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 2: guy's hand and he blew it.

2670
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: Luke. Maybe it's.

2671
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 2: The legal before you go into I don't know, but

2672
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 2: it was interesting. That was that was weird.

2673
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: Right, people do drugs?

2674
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 2: Apparently they do.

2675
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 5: It's so weird that the person was doing drugs. It's

2676
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 5: weird that he had a woman run up to him

2677
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 5: put the aforementioned drug on his hand.

2678
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 2: Not only doing in a bathroom.

2679
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: Not any kind of television star. But I've been around

2680
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: some that were that's the actually the least surprise. I mean,

2681
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you hit the weed pen before the broadcast, not on

2682
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: the air, right, dude, I'm just telling you. These dogs

2683
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: who are big on TV, these are weird people. All right.

2684
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 2: Were you in big into monster trucks as a kid,

2685
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 2: like I've been doing a couple a couple watched the

2686
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 2: end of this rally right here. It's wild. I've never

2687
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 2: went to his live.

2688
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 1: My wife did growing up. She said, the score there

2689
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: so loud. You have to bring headcumps are here, Plumer,

2690
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty hard.

2691
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Wait for the head man.

2692
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: It's definitely not a cyber truck. Okay, all right, uh

2693
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 1: watch this, watch this monster truck and then this ass.

2694
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 2: Remember last week that kid had a whole of those

2695
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 2: water cups in the back seat. He escalated, Bro, you

2696
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 2: know what happened last time?

2697
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 1: Just drive careful?

2698
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: Please did it for the gram?

2699
01:58:58,280 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 3: Right?

2700
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's go to the punch machine. We always

2701
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 2: have fun with that international style.

2702
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Here, Oh, look at this.

2703
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 2: That's so good. That's so good.

2704
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: Dude. He had the weirdest build ever. He was built

2705
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 1: only on top.

2706
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, kind of like Sean Brady, but he's a you.

2707
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: Know, John Brady, a little more muscar, a little more muscular.

2708
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I have long said that growing shots make

2709
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 2: the world go around. There's nothing more funny, right. Anything

2710
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 2: he will earn henceforth is gonna be garnished by the

2711
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Department of Justice.

2712
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 1: This building is an example while.

2713
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 4: That federal court.

2714
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: Judgment from ever having an active role in the management

2715
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 2: of any property at all, if somebody moves into this building,

2716
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 2: by that federal judgment, he has to use let's head

2717
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 2: to the baseball field or softball excuse me?

2718
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: Sounds like yes, I know, dude.

2719
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's tough to happen to anybody. But you

2720
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 2: can't like moan audibly, right, Yeah.

2721
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like the moaning is only acceptable if

2722
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 1: they have to call an ambulance. Okay, you know what

2723
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I've seen people get so injured that

2724
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 1: they actually have to call medical authorities. Moaning is acceptable

2725
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 1: in that case.

2726
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 2: All right, we got one more for you.

2727
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that's that's natural selection. That's natural selection.

2728
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: This was Oh yeah, get his ass. These are people

2729
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: that should not be procreating.

2730
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 2: There's this one. There's a bunch of awesome dudes that

2731
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 2: always send me crazy rugby hits. Oh my god, but

2732
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 2: this one isn't a hit, Luke. It's a wedgie. You

2733
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 2: know what, you got an atomic wedgie.

2734
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: They got different rules in that game.

2735
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, that's something right there.

2736
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 1: They just you know, they don't they don't funk around

2737
02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 1: and rugby man, Luke.

2738
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 2: We all, unfortunately have to go to wakes and funerals

2739
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 2: at times. Do you typically go out for a drink

2740
02:00:58,360 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 2: after just to let off some steam?

2741
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I don't have a post funeral routine.

2742
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see this, guys. Okay, okay, we're gonna lose

2743
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 2: our sponsors. New gift ideas for Twokey for the holidays.

2744
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, real fago accent too, our scent? Excuse me, scent?

2745
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Hell yeah. Remember by the way, hold, I

2746
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 1: want to say something. Yeah, I took a dump on

2747
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Kiss and Kiss fans on my last appearance on Submission Radio.

2748
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 1: My mentions for like two weeks have been angry kiss fans,

2749
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,080
Speaker 1: and I want them all to know I think you're pathetic,

2750
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 1: fucking losers, and I'm glad I hurt your feelings. Eat

2751
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 1: my ship, eat eat a mile of my ship to

2752
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 1: smell my ass up close, you fucking losers.

2753
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with the sentiment, but the delivery

2754
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 2: was heavy. That was that was wild. I want to

2755
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 2: I want all of your tears sustain me the karate

2756
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 2: demonstrate this lene well, get a little fire and a.

2757
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: Lot of fat guys trying to do like yeah, yeah, okay,

2758
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 1: oh god, okay, okay, all right, I'm watching a kid

2759
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: fucking scream here.

2760
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't start the fire. It was always burning.

2761
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:20,240
Speaker 2: Never forget right, let's never forget how to brush your

2762
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:21,120
Speaker 2: teeth the correct way.

2763
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 1: Actually, you're brushing your teeth wrong.

2764
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 2: And that's why you see most people think the correct

2765
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:28,000
Speaker 2: movement is from the bottom to the top.

2766
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 1: In reality, the best way.

2767
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: You gotta go across to get all the gunk out

2768
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 2: of there.

2769
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 1: You gotta really get those hard to reach way.

2770
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:43,720
Speaker 2: Let's get this fashion update now. I do not endorse

2771
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 2: this message.

2772
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna do some fucking hate message.

2773
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that is I can't. I mean, who's even

2774
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 2: making this stuff? This is not funny? Is this is

2775
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 2: too far?

2776
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna get too far?

2777
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 2: Big weekend to close here for MK favorite Mike Perry,

2778
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 2: who's in our intro when he says shout out to

2779
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 2: Morning Combat. He did have no no footage here of

2780
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:03,440
Speaker 2: the knockouts because I don't even if we can show it,

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Speaker 2: we get hit by copyright by everybody. But he did

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Speaker 2: have dirty boxing card over the weekend, and hey, debut,

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Speaker 2: let's listen to this. His new co owner is John

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Speaker 2: Bones Jones, and they started a time asking on.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, man, I gotta tell you, I didn't

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02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,680
Speaker 1: know we talked about this before. I'm so surprised to

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Speaker 1: see him back with the calls. I guess I didn't

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Speaker 1: know what the story is there.

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Speaker 2: And finally Mike Perry and Coach Litty were approached on

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Speaker 2: the sidewalk Luke with a uh and armed forces like offer,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a favorite?

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Speaker 11: I got a chick, I want to come to the

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Speaker 11: hotel me tonight sorts, I want to run a train

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Speaker 11: or you want to go with me?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: My wife right here?

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Speaker 2: Man, why was asking that? I just want you to

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Speaker 2: just come, you know, come get you right here. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't do that to my wife like you sure.

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Speaker 2: Y'all you don't want to be okay, thank you look

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02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 2: very similar at the time that you were asked, if

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Speaker 2: you want to this reminds me of my military service.

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Speaker 2: That's all the ship we got this week? What are

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Speaker 2: we getting here?

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Speaker 1: And ay?

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Speaker 2: Minus?

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's a plus?

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Speaker 2: Oh come on? That was there was you know, no

2813
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Speaker 2: elder abuse. There was a fat punch machine guy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's the show we got for the fast punch

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Speaker 1: machine guy was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. We will be back by the way Friday

2817
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Speaker 2: from home eleven a m Eastern. We're going to what

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Speaker 2: is this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Uh Mexico, Mexico City, Sagon Moreno.

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Speaker 2: Yes, will you have some content worth watching on the

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas substack Slash YouTube network.

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Speaker 1: Yes. I interviewed Corey Sanhagen. The interview will be out.

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Speaker 1: I'll have my breakdown just for the Sean Brady people

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Speaker 1: out there and uh uh yeah, so cool news later

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that. If you check out

2827
02:04:56,440 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 2: the Brian Campbell experience. This week we got Edgar Berlanga, Boots,

2828
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 2: Ennis Brandon morenos Oh. Should be a good week of

2829
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:06,919
Speaker 2: content right there. Follow us that the socials below, including

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Speaker 2: our own personal channels. The main card Minute, by the Way,

2831
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Speaker 2: is owned and operated by our own Luke Nosita. So

2832
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 2: check out Long Island's Action Long Island. You got many

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02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 2: anything coming to your channel soon.

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Speaker 5: I'll have the best breakdowns out today and tomorrow. Watch

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Speaker 5: along on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: You know the drill, That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: What does your girlfriend think about your hobbies? She loves it, Luke,

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02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 1: I want you know what I want to ask. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we could get her on the Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: talked to her, she would one hundred percent come on.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is we hung out Saturday night. Man,

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Speaker 5: we had that early London card.

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Speaker 1: We still had Saturday. You're not a great boyfriend, You're good.

2844
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 1: You're an amazing producer and you're great on this show.

2845
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 1: You're You're the Osama Bin Lad and the boyfriends just

2846
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 1: the worst.

2847
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 2: That's our great show today. Thanks for kent to Ken

2848
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Speaker 2: and the Deer for jacking up the ac for us.

2849
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Speaker 1: They they were on their phones.

2850
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Speaker 2: Ken's in like a like a winter park.

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Speaker 1: They were on their phones the whole time. By the way,

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02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 1: showed on my shirt is bad and they go, I

2853
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 1: don't know who that is. And I said to myself,

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Speaker 1: Holy fucking Jesus, we got to fix this.

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Speaker 5: Sorry about taking You guys have never watched combat sports,

2856
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 5: and you're talking about a fight that was like ten

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Speaker 5: years before they.

2858
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 1: Were Hagler hearns like they've even heard of it.

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Speaker 5: They don't watch combats.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's not to quote a great American Armenian. It's

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Speaker 2: not their fault. They were born in nineteen.

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02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:24,920
Speaker 1: It's your fault that you're here. It's your fault that

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Speaker 1: the show is still going.

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Speaker 2: Let's end it, Okay, thank you for your service, thank

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Speaker 2: you for watching. Take care of yourself, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: you on Friday.

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Speaker 1: We're out here.