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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shade. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, also the proprietor Club Sha Shade. The

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Speaker 1: guy that's coming by for a drinking conversation today. He's

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Speaker 1: just barely old enough to have a drink, but because

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Speaker 1: he's in season, he's only having water today. The two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen number one overall pick in the NBA Draft,

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Speaker 1: he was just selected to the All Star Game. He's

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Speaker 1: the fourth youngest ever selected to an All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: behind Kobe lebron and Magic Johnson, and he's a member

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Speaker 1: of the All Rookie Team. Zion Williams. All my life

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Speaker 1: and grinding all my life, sacrifice hustle back price one

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Speaker 1: a slice, got the Broner dice to swath all my life.

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Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, and

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Speaker 1: rinding all my life and up sacrifice hustle back price.

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Speaker 1: One a slice, got the Brona dice to swap all

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Speaker 1: my life. I've been grinding in all my life. How

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Speaker 1: you doing it? I'm well? How about yourself? I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Ron. Thanks for coming on giving me a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes to day to stop by up Shah

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Speaker 1: and talk to me. Thanks for having me man, All right,

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Speaker 1: you know why you're here. Talk to us about your signature. Shoot,

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Speaker 1: when you're growing up in South Carolina as a kid,

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Speaker 1: I know you purchased probably the Jordan or maybe the Kobe,

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Speaker 1: maybe even the Lebrons. Did you ever think a small

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Speaker 1: kid from Spartanburg, South Carolina would have his own shoe

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Speaker 1: and people would be wearing the Zion Williamson? Uh? Nah, never,

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Speaker 1: I never thought I would have it growing up in

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Speaker 1: a small town called Florence, South Carolina. Oh you from Florida, Yes, sir? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you so you grew up in Florid You moved

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Speaker 1: to Spartanburg. Okay, okay, Uh you know growing up there.

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Speaker 1: You know it's one thing you as a kid. You know,

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Speaker 1: I said it just to say one day I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have my own sneaker. But as you get older, you

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Speaker 1: see that it's tough to get your own sneaker. Rights

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Speaker 1: have to fall right, You have to be in a

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Speaker 1: right situation, and you know, a brand has to be

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Speaker 1: will to say we're gonna give you a shoe. Right.

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Speaker 1: So when Jordan Brand that day they came to me

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Speaker 1: and said, we want to give you a signature. It

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Speaker 1: was you can't make you can't make stuff up like that.

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Speaker 1: Like there, it's it's just thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. A little bit about the shoe. You're a

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Speaker 1: big superhero fan. The tongue is kind of like I

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Speaker 1: guess it's maybe like a cake. You have your the

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Speaker 1: Z dub, You have your initials on the shoe. They

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Speaker 1: can't see this, but explain you have like your mom,

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Speaker 1: your stepdad, your brothers. You have a lot of things

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Speaker 1: going on on the bottom of the shoe. Tell the

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Speaker 1: people at home a little bit about the shoot. Well,

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Speaker 1: like you said, uh, the superhero theme tongue. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm really allowed to say the superhero's name.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the tongue is like when I was young,

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Speaker 1: I remember when I used to top of my shoes.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, my favorite part was always kind of

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Speaker 1: like pulling the tongue. Okay, so you know, I've kind

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Speaker 1: of made it an emphasis and I want my tongue

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Speaker 1: to be something like different, so it looks like it

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Speaker 1: has armor on it, right, and you know on the side.

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Speaker 1: You know, I told Jordan Brand that when somebody walks

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Speaker 1: in the store, I want them to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's z shoe, right, That's what the Z right here represents.

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Speaker 1: And then on the bottom of the shoe, you know

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Speaker 1: I have my family's names, right, Sharanda, Coach, Noah, Tyree.

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Speaker 1: But then also I have Spartanburg, Johnathan, flow Down and Durham. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that Florence, that Spartanburg, that Dorham where you played college ball. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you also have something on the side. Want of these

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Speaker 1: shocked the world and let's dance. Okay. So when you say,

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Speaker 1: when they said okay, Zion, we want to give you

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Speaker 1: a signature shoe. Now, obviously you gotta make it Zion proof.

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Speaker 1: There're gonna be no blowouts, right, so when you make

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Speaker 1: So when you're sitting down with the design team to

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Speaker 1: or did they kind of guidance says okay, Zion, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about this? And you say, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: you you know design this shoe because it's for you,

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Speaker 1: for someone your size. This shoe is really light. All right,

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Speaker 1: rookie year. I was in New York and when I

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Speaker 1: something about superheroes, like and I was after I left,

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Speaker 1: I was like, why why why did they asks all that?

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Speaker 1: Somehow they took everything I said, they put it into

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Speaker 1: like three different like types of shoes and mock ups.

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Speaker 1: Mock ups. Yeah, and I remember when I saw the

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Speaker 1: one they had the zero on the side, like it

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Speaker 1: really wasn't no hesitation. I said, let's go with that one.

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Speaker 1: also like to make a lot of cuts and splashes.

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Speaker 1: So what they did was the engineering team they made

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Speaker 1: to still make my cuts and all those quick twitch moviments. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, this feels like mesh. It's not

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Speaker 1: be like Mike and says, Okay, if I get the

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Speaker 1: able to elevate. So when kids get these Z's, they're

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Speaker 1: they might. Okay, let's go back and I tell people

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Speaker 1: this story. The very first time I met Mike, I

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Speaker 1: But he didn't seem real. He seemed like a god.

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Speaker 1: He seemed like he was levitating. And that's what I

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Speaker 1: tell people. I saying, you don't get it. I said,

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Speaker 1: I've never met him, man, I said, I've met a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of famous people, actors and

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Speaker 1: entertainers and and and from Jameson and all them, I

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Speaker 1: say something about Mike. Mike doesn't seem real. He's and

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Speaker 1: I hate being blasphemers, Zion. He might be the closest

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Speaker 1: thing to God that will ever meet. So when you

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Speaker 1: met him for the very first time, what were you thinking?

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Speaker 1: What were you mad? When I met When I met

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Speaker 1: Star weekend, my rookie year, and it was his Jordan

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Speaker 1: can't you can't describe that you can't describe that feeling

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Speaker 1: you get. It's it's one of those that's him, yes,

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Speaker 1: and he don't even play him, more like you're like

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Speaker 1: mean it's like you said, it was like meeting black

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Speaker 1: the air. When you grow up at you started off

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Speaker 1: to Sparkburg. You're playing I assume you played it. You

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Speaker 1: played football too, right, Yeah, I played football up until

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Speaker 1: to high school, you go to you go to Sparkburg

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Speaker 1: Country Day Correct, Sparnburg Day School, spark Burg Day School.

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Speaker 1: You're basketball, and then here's the things. You're very unique

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Speaker 1: because you're growing up in a social media age and

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Speaker 1: you until they started. Somebody started at your game, had

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Speaker 1: the m There's no way. So you had more followers

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Speaker 1: What was going through your mind? You're like, man, I

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Speaker 1: got a thousand followers, I got five hundred thousand followers,

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Speaker 1: Uh man, when it was happening, I think the people

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Speaker 1: went up like fifty thousand fars in this class, and

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Speaker 1: could think. I mean, I was just love. Go back

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Speaker 1: to the shoot. You decide to put your mom your family?

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Speaker 1: Why was it so important? Because you talk. Every time

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Speaker 1: I hear you talk, you always mentioned your mom. Not

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Speaker 1: I understand that she gave your life, but she was

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Speaker 1: your coach. She was your critic from from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: your game, Like, hey, bro, you I need more than

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Speaker 1: that from you talked to us about your mom. My

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Speaker 1: mom is she's everything. She was. She's just always been

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Speaker 1: like just she worked above and beyond just so as kids,

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Speaker 1: me basketball, I like to have your mom as a coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're at home with her, you're in the

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Speaker 1: I'm like in seventh grade and I'm right, just mom,

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Speaker 1: I dropped thirty in the last game. What you want?

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Speaker 1: You want forty fifty? And she probably like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: This is Zion y'all waiting for the first year. Does

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Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the year, Bro, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me, man, thanks right up, coming on

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Speaker 1: all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle back

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Speaker 1: to price, Want a slice, Got the broller dice to

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Speaker 1: swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

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Speaker 1: all my life, and grinding all my life sacrifice. Hustle

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