1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: Game in Oxnard, calas Poor six seconds dot tixis any pass. 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 5: And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 7 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 5: and Kyle Yeomans. 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to Talking Cowboys with your host Y two Jay, Josh, 9 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: the Josh Rodriguez. 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 6: I'm here with Patrick Nose Walker. I'm here with Nathaniel Newton. 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 6: We are Talking Cowboys. Sponsored by Black Raffle Coffee, the 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 6: official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: How are we doing, boys? 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 5: We're doing better than Sam Williams. Unfortunately, we'll get to that. 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: We'll get to that. We'll get to that. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 6: Nate, Hey, you gotta you gotta cut of wrestling promo 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 6: for me? 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 7: God? Why two k Josh, Josh Rodrigez, we're. 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 5: Gonna wrestling promos, okay, and you know what I gotta 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 5: go with? Right? 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: What's that? 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 8: Let me talk to you? Yeah? 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 9: Yeah, that was pretty good, Josh, Yes, sir. 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: How are we doing? Fellas? I mean, it's a beautiful. 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 5: Day, another beautiful day in California, man. 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: It was a somber day of practice yesterday. 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 6: Obviously we need to get to it. But Patrick, do 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 6: you want to hit us with some news and notes. 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's let's start with the bad, the really, really, 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 5: really bad. Sam Williams, Cowboys third year defensive end. He 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 5: went down early in practice yesterday individual drills, non contact injury. 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 5: Caught it off of the field. M R I basically 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: revealed the worst case scenario. He has suffered a torn 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 5: a c L and a torn m is officially done 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: for the season before the season gets started, and we'll 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: talk about the impact of that. But that is massive, 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: massive for both Sam and the Cowboys. Gary An Connley 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 5: a veteran cornerback who has signed this offseason out of 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: the UFL, looking to rebuild himself in the NFL. He 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: decided to notify the team he retired, so they went 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: ahead and released him, and in the same day they 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: were successfully awarded Keemon Hall off of the waiver wire. 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: He was waived one day prior by the San Francisco 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 5: forty nine ers. Hall is an undrafted free agent of 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Chargers in twenty nineteen, but he spent 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 5: some time here in Dallas with the Cowboys on the 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: practice squad in twenty twenty, so this is a second 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: time around for him. They also signed Deontay Burnett and 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: Kelvin Harmon, both wide receivers out of the UFL. That's 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: going to give them some more competition. By the way, 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 5: position shots out to that Arlington renengage one hundred percent, 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: and that's also due to the fact that rookie wide 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 5: receivers Ryan Flinoy is dealing with what's being described as 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 5: a minor knee issue right now. Mike McCarthy said on 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: yesterday that he does not quote unquote deem it anything serious. 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: He calls it day to day. Hopefully that remains the case. 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: And on the contract front, because I know you all 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: want to know about the contracts, right that's what you're 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 5: here for. You know that in football, the Cowboys did 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: submit a new offer to both Not the lawnmower man, 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 5: even though he's on his on his job. 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 6: He's on overtime, overtime, he's on overtime, he submits it. 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: Oh day off, let's interrupt everybody and. 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 5: Let's get close to him. Yeah yeah, let's come right 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: up to let's come right up to their back. They 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: submitted a new offer to both Dak Prescott and CDEE 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: Lamb as recently as this past weekend, so that both 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: of those contract talks have traction and I mean nothing 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: imminent as we have this conversation, but either one or 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: both could fall right out of the sky at any point. 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: What about you, Nate, any news and. 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 9: Notes brought their The cd Lamb thing needs to get done, 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 9: Dak needs to get done. It'll work. I mean, they 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 9: just throwing office out there just to keep the talks open, 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 9: that's all. 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 8: They just of course the blood flowing. 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 6: And one thing Mike McCarthy said about the receivers that 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 6: were brought in, it's healthy competition. And with Florinoyd sort 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 6: of on the back burner right now, caustiously optimistic, you know, 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 6: pulling him back, keeping him from those drills, it makes 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 6: sense to bring in some healthy competition and guys that 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 6: are seasoned and season in the fact that they are 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 6: ready to play football right now. They were just playing 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 6: in the UFL mere months ago, I think a month 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 6: ago actually, so it makes sense for them to be 86 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 6: on the field at this point. 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 5: They're ready that wide receiver position. Those those two young guys, 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 5: Burnett and Harmon. They've been to come in ready, ready 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: to get cooking because that wide receiver position in the 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 5: absence of Cedde Lamb and obviously Brandon Cooks is out 91 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: there doing his thing. But you talk about the law 92 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: firm of Jalen, Jalen and Jalen, those guys are cooking. Yesterday, 93 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 5: Tying Billy Johnson had had a massive day yesterday. I 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 5: think he had like eight catches on nine targets. One 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 5: of them was that deep bomb with Kayln Carson on 96 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 5: his hip. Another rookie, not another rookie, because Tyron's not 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 5: a rookie, but a rookie who had a big day 98 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: yesterday as well, having a big camp. That one deep 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 5: ball that was giving up to Tyron Billy Johnson number one, 100 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: it was a perfect throw. Number two. It was the 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: only time that Kayln Carson got beat yesterday. He was 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: man handling whoever was put in front of him outside 103 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: of that place. So wide receiver battle was off to 104 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 5: the races. 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: Nice, nice, Okay. 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 6: So I want to discuss sort of the ramifications of 107 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 6: the Sam Williams injury. I think it's you know, obviously 108 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 6: we lose him for twenty twenty four it's unfortunate, But 109 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 6: now we have to next man up. What happens next? 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 6: How are you guys looking at the out the outlook 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 6: now of the rest of the season with Sam Williams 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 6: contributing not only on defense but also on special teams. 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 6: And we talked about this on camping out, so this 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 6: is kind of a carryover. But what do we think 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 6: about the ramifications of him losing out, losing him for 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 6: the rest of the season, that. 117 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 9: Was a big, a big loss, especially in your past 118 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 9: for a situation. He's a playmaker now he he'll make 119 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 9: a play on the run too. I mean, this was 120 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 9: the year where he was looking for great maturity, a 121 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 9: great leap from this young man. But being that he's 122 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 9: out now and out for the year, I mean, and 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 9: Vilma for Hoko and guys like that got to step up. 124 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 9: But I'm gonna tell you something. Will McClay is excited 125 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 9: about this Marshawn Neeland. 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 8: He I mean, he's just. 127 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 9: He made will cross two steps across fish or whatever. 128 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 9: I mean, just several times watching the explosiveness of this kid, 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 9: watching the lateral movement of. 130 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 8: This kid, he said, you know, just uh a bigger 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 8: d law. 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 9: That's what He called him a bigger d Law with 133 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 9: a with a with a. 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 8: With a lot more potential. 135 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: So and Patrick has said similar things too. 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 5: He's d Law junior, called him junior tank. That's basically 137 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: what to me, That's how I view Marshan Nieland and 138 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 5: I said this after the second round pick and a 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 5: lot of people on you know, the Twitter sphere, x Field, 140 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, kind of knocking the 141 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: pick just because he was He wasn't a household name 142 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 5: as far as pre draft is concerned. But if you 143 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 5: go back and you look at this kid's film and 144 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: you look at what he's able to do. Number one, 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: he's one of the best run stoppers off of the 146 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: edge in the entire draft. So he wanted the Cowboys 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: to woke up their run defense. Here's Marshaan Kneeland. Also, 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: he has the pass rush ability. When you look at 149 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: special teams in the absence of Sam who you know, 150 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: gave you a huge chunk of special team snaps as well, 151 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: Marshannland is going to be dropped right into that bucket 152 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: as well. So the rookie is getting thrown from the 153 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 5: frying pan right into the fire. He's going to have 154 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 5: to acclimate quickly. My concern there is you lose during 155 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 5: Armstrong the free agency, you lose Dante follow the free agency. 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: Now you lose Sam Williams to a season ending injury. 157 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: What rotation? 158 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: The rotation is a huge question mark because Marshawn kneeling. 159 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 5: While he has the potential, he has the ceiling. I'm 160 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: here with you, Big Nate, and I know you're gonna agree. 161 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: He hasn't played yet. Yeah, you don't know what you 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: have yet in him at the NFL level. Behind him, 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 5: you have a guy like Darrell Johnson. You don't know 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: what you have there yet. Byron Vaughn's you don't know 165 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: what you have there yet. Tyris Whet special teams contributor defensively, 166 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: you don't know what you have there yet. Former rookie 167 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 5: fourth round pick from last year, junior Viniami Fooko, was 168 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: unable to earn reps onto the field last year under 169 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: Dan Quinn, you don't know what you have there yet. 170 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 5: It's just so many unknowns that this could very well 171 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 5: be a situation where the Cowboys do need to go 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 5: into free agency and bring in a veteran to help 173 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 5: stabilize the right side of that defensive line. 174 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 6: Well, let's take a look at the possible free agents 175 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 6: to sort of supplement the new vacant dat spot. Patrick, 176 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 6: did you sort of I know we were talking about 177 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 6: this yesterday. 178 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: Did you take a look at the free. 179 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 6: Agents that are on the wire now that could be 180 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 6: considered for that vacant d E spot. 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 5: I did, And obviously a potential trade is always going 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 5: to be on the table as well. But we're not 183 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: gonna talk any specific names because I'm not gonna cost 184 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: the Cowboys a draft pick, no, sir, not me. We're 185 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: gonna focus on those who are not under contract and 186 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: we're gonna talk about that. Carl Lawson had a very 187 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: interesting tweet on yesterday, simply tweeted an emoji, a star 188 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 5: emoji reading to that how you will, But just know 189 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: that he's monitoring the situation not only in the Cowboys camp, 190 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: but in all thirty two NFL camps to see what 191 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: his best situation is gonna be. Carl Lawson obviously someone 192 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: of the Cowboys liked coming out of his respective draft. 193 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 5: Yannick in Gocway. That's a name to keep an eye 194 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: on as well. And Gocway also has a pre existing 195 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: relationship with Mike Zimmer. They spent time together with the 196 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings in twenty twenty. Those are going to be 197 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: my top two guys. Have a couple other guys as well, 198 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 5: Tyas Bowser, he's a name that you guys are familiar 199 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 5: with him, should be familiar with. And then Charles Harris 200 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: is a name as well if you want to go 201 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 5: with more veteran ability who has been proven justin Houston. 202 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 5: He's out there as well. I don't know how much 203 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: few he has left in the tank. And much like 204 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 5: Bowser and Harris, I shouldn't say much like, but Bowsing Harris, 205 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 5: they've coming They're coming off of injuries, right, so you 206 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: don't know what you have there. So my top two 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 5: to keep an eye on Carl Lost and Yannick and 208 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 5: got Away. 209 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: But there are options and. 210 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 8: And my picks. I have some picks real Johnson. 211 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 9: I'm serious for Hoko we because the bad thing about 212 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 9: his injury is that it happened to Sam's Williams, which 213 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 9: was asking a lot from the great thing about his 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 9: injuries it happened early enough. 215 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 8: So you can get a good look. 216 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 7: At these guys. 217 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 9: You know, I remember early when Dak career started. Uh 218 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 9: we we we You know you had Tony and you 219 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 9: had I can't think of the other guy. That guy 220 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 9: just left our office to coordinate a couple of years ago. 221 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 9: You know, they got hurt all of a sudden, like 222 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 9: we need to go to waver wire. Will looked to 223 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 9: me and said, now, Will McLay Liliam said, noah, we got 224 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 9: this kid here right now. It's so early. We don't 225 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 9: bring in a soul. Look at these kids now, I 226 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 9: mean they don't get days off anyway because they're young, right, 227 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 9: Just look at them over and over and over and 228 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 9: may go even into the first preseason game. Looking at 229 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 9: these kids, making sure that the things that you saw, 230 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 9: they they have gotten better, a little bit better after 231 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 9: a year, if they new to this game, see how 232 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 9: quick their learning curve is. And then with the background 233 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 9: noise and carry on. 234 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: Man, I tell you that long gets mold something serious. 235 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: But I mean, Nate makes a great point, and it's 236 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 5: like what I said before we start talking about some 237 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 5: free agency names. These are names that are here in 238 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: camp that have to step up and have to step 239 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: up in a big way. Darrell Johnson Byron Vaughn's junior 240 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 5: for Hoko Tyrus Wheed. But then also keep an eye 241 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 5: on a guy like Chauncey Ghost. Yes, Chauncey Ghost and 242 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 5: started his career with the Cowboys. On the end. They 243 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 5: moved him inside to help with that defensive tackle equation, 244 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 5: but they might have to pop him back outside. He 245 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 5: was taking some reps at the edge over the past 246 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 5: couple of days, even prior to Sam going down. So 247 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 5: maybe that increases, especially with Chauncey going into a contract year. 248 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure he welcomed as many reps as possible to 249 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: try to have a breakout. 250 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 8: Yere. 251 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 9: You got to remember Zim go back to his Minnesota day. 252 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 9: Zim doesn't have a problem with a tweener guy. 253 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 8: He likes guy. 254 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 9: If you look at what he's brought in in Kneeland, 255 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 9: look at his lower body. Zim still has that old 256 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 9: school mentality. We're gonna stop the run, you know we 257 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 9: I mean that perfect athlete. I love him, but I 258 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 9: gotta have somebody with some with some weight with you know, 259 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 9: with some bottom to him. I don't know how to 260 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 9: put that without saying a big butt. 261 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 262 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 9: And so you look at Kneeland, you look at Golds. 263 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 9: So these are two guys like that. And uh, but 264 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 9: Niland ran four six two, so he can get on 265 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 9: that end. And yesterday we watched him in past rush. 266 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 9: You got some explosions to him, you know, in past 267 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 9: rush situation. 268 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 6: Speaking of explosiveness, Uh, Manzi Smith, Yeah, are we seeing this? 269 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 6: Are we seeing the same thing? 270 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: Are we getting I'm seeing it and I'm seeing it 271 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 5: with the glasses on. So that's how I know that 272 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: it's right. Mazzie Smith, He's checking all the boxes right now, 273 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 5: he really is. He's checking all the boxes. Over three 274 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 5: hundred pounds, reporting the camp over three hundred pounds. Check 275 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 5: power still as explosive and legendary as it was when 276 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: he was at Michigan. Check get off on the snap 277 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: a massive, massive criticism of Mazzie Smith from last season. 278 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 5: He's timing up well. And it's funny because not funny 279 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 5: but ironic and not coincidental. We're talking about Sam. But 280 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 5: there was a video I posted two days ago, was 281 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 5: through the walk through the mock game when it was 282 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 5: a four man down set. It was Sam Williams oh 283 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: Soo DIGGI'SU with Mazzie Smith and Marshawn neelm and I 284 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 5: was right there lined up with the ball and on 285 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: the snap only one person was equal to Mazzie Smith 286 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: on the quickness on the first step, and that was 287 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: Sam Williams. So take that how you will, because Sam Williams, 288 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: in my opinion, is deparently the quickest first step on 289 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 5: the defense for anyone not named Michael Parsons. 290 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 9: I'll tell you like this and for all you guys 291 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 9: and gals that oh it is. It is a pass 292 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 9: for what they are asking these players to do at 293 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 9: this point in time. 294 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 5: Talk to them. 295 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 8: Guys are doing it. I call it the forty nine 296 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 8: of practice. 297 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 9: The league has evolved into how the forty nine ers 298 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 9: used to practice. They will put on pads for inside run, 299 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 9: pass for one on one passing and one on one 300 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 9: pass rush, and then they would take them off and 301 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 9: the rest of the practices about speed, about quickness, about 302 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 9: knowing where to be. These young guys, especially the second 303 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 9: year got third year guy, they are moving so much 304 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 9: faster than a year ago, especially the offensive. 305 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 8: Everybody knows where to be. I saw. 306 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 9: I don't know what y'all have decided on what to 307 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 9: call turping, these different names turbo turp. 308 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 6: Yes, actually we have video evidence to support otherwise. I 309 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: talked to Cavant Turpin yesterday and he likes the nickname 310 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 6: Turpy Turpy Speed Speed. 311 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 8: Okay, but anyway, I need you to cut that in. 312 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna cut it in beams, got it. He's got 313 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: the video to him. 314 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 9: I'm not calling another man. I was listening to him 315 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 9: yesterday doing practice. He expected to get a ball, but 316 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 9: another receiver ran in the wrong route, and he say, 317 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 9: that's the wrong route. That lets me know that he 318 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 9: knows where to be, knows, but he also knows where 319 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 9: the other guy needs to be. This wasn't a turfing 320 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 9: we knew two years ago. Maturey has set in with 321 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 9: a lot of these guys. 322 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 8: They are competing. 323 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 9: Like you said earlier, these wide receivers are competing there. 324 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 9: You know who you know who brought that fire like that? 325 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 8: That Billy Johnson he did. 326 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but I'm not gonna get you know, I 327 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 9: ain't gonna slide. 328 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: For those that are saying, you know, well, as it 329 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: relates to Masie's quickness on getting off on the ball 330 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: with the Pats are not on. I don't know if 331 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: you think the pats weighed forty pounds or fifty pounds 332 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: The quickness off the ball is the quickness off the 333 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: ball yest and guess what Mazzie puts on pads? The 334 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: offensive line has to put on pads as well. So 335 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 5: that to wash. Let's take it for what's happening in 336 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: real time and not try to find reasons to devaluate. 337 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: The fact is that's not blow it up, but that's 338 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 5: not diminish it. The fact is he weighs more like 339 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: he's supposed to. He's quicker than he was in year one. 340 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: He's making progress and he's taking the steps, and that 341 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 5: is something to be keep an eye on. 342 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 8: Sometimes you have to take a year to mature. 343 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: You know. 344 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 8: You know I was critical on him and my man 345 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 8: Patrick to tell you early that. 346 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 9: You know, I was trying to tell him for this 347 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 9: year and this kid, you know, he's just it hadn't 348 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 9: clicked right. Maybe it's a change of coaches. Maybe it's 349 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 9: just maturity of knowing where he fit and what is 350 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 9: expected of him. And what I've liked about this team 351 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 9: concerning Mazie is they didn't go out and get nobody. 352 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 8: They said, Mazi, look at here, you are a man. 353 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: Let's go the first round pick. 354 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 9: This is your responsibility and so so far, what they 355 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 9: have asked these kids to do, Mazi and all the rest, 356 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 9: turping and all the rest, they have done what the 357 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 9: coach has actually move with quickness, nowhere to be and 358 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 9: do it in a time to fashion. 359 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 8: These guys have done it up to this point. 360 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: And if Mazzie Smith does and continues this trajectory, basically 361 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 5: what we're looking at is a replay of Jalen Tobert. Right, So, 362 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: Jalen Tobert came into the league and he was kind 363 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 5: of deering the headlights and he admits it, and it 364 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: took him that offseason following his rookie season to kind 365 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: of get back to his roots and remember himself and 366 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 5: get back to doing what got him here. And then 367 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 5: in year two we saw a completely different Jalen told 368 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: Mean and it feels like at this moment, it feels 369 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 5: like that's what's happening with Mazzie Smith. 370 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: And speaking of Mazzi, there is a great article now 371 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 6: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com from Nick Harris from a 372 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 6: media availability yesterday got to talk to Mazzie Smith and 373 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: got to ask him a few questions and. 374 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: And next on Talking Cowboys, We're. 375 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 6: Gonna go into the media availability that we had yesterday 376 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 6: and talk about one of the fan favorites that Patrick 377 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 6: wrote about, De Marvin overshowing more talking Cowboys. 378 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Right after this bread, I. 379 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: Got up to say, Todd thought it would be secure 380 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: to jog in the cheetah Savannah. 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No, no, we're moving on. 424 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 8: Quaker Oats. 425 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: It was a sponsor of the Dallas Cowboys. 426 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 12: Get your oats in, baby, Okay, okay, get going, Zeke 427 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 12: you something else making fun of my reads? 428 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 7: Nate, I love it though, I love you so serious 429 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 7: love all right? 430 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: We got more to get to. 431 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: I want to get to uh Themorron overshown Now. Patrick 432 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 6: wrote a great article on Dallas Cowboys dot com that 433 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: Nate read. 434 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 8: How did you write? How long did you talk to him? 435 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 5: Probably not four minutes total total audio? 436 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 9: And you wrote a go read that documentary that he 437 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 9: wrote a great documentary. I mean, I'm like he had 438 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 9: to talk this kid at least three. 439 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 5: Hours total audio was like three and a half minutes, 440 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: not counting spaces. 441 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 8: Well you did. 442 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: It's not a Feller. 443 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 5: That's that's uh a writer. It's about telling the story. 444 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 5: And some stories are so enjoyable to tell. This young 445 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 5: man's story is absolutely one of them. You know, even 446 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: pre injury. This is an East Texas kid who grew 447 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 5: up idolizing the Cowboys, always wanting to wear the star. 448 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 5: He gets the nod from the Cowboys as the as 449 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: the third round pick, and then he shows out immediately 450 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: in his first training camp, wasted no time making some waves. 451 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: He goes down first major football adversity. He had never 452 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: suffered an injury as devastating as a town a cl 453 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 5: that he suffered. Question then is can he come back? 454 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: And how long would it take for him to hit 455 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: prime form? And he's hitting prime form and through the 456 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: process of rehabilitation, he never lost that million dollar smile, 457 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: never lost that positive attitude, never lost his face. So 458 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: some stories are just not only worth telling, but you 459 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 5: just feel good telling them. And overshown is one of them. 460 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 6: Not only that story, but I remember last year at 461 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 6: training camp, Haley Sudden worked on a video. 462 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: Shouts outh to Haley, shouts out to Haley. 463 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 5: Uh. 464 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 6: She she made an amazing video and edited herself. I'm 465 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 6: pretty sure she did with Marvin Overstrong where she went 466 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: to his town, his hometown and profiled them amazed horse. 467 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really insightful. 468 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 8: On the horse. 469 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: I don't know if they don't know she got he 470 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 5: has horses in his family. They have horse out in 471 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 5: East Texas. 472 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: Very country. 473 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 8: I love it. 474 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 10: I love it. 475 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: And that profile is great, but the article yesterday was 476 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: even better. 477 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 6: And uh, it's great to see a player that is 478 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 6: unanimously loved by everybody, you know. It's like everyone's just 479 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 6: so excited to see him on the field, see him blazing. 480 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 6: And like I said before, the man is a specimen. 481 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 6: He's running around on fire, genuinely like and yeah. 482 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: And the beauty of it is is the fact that 483 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 5: his rehabilitation, he didn't just focus on getting his knee stronger, 484 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: getting his leg stronger. He took that opportunity to add 485 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 5: some weight, right, But it's lean muscle mass. It's not 486 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: quote unquote bad weight. As John Stevens Junior made sure 487 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: that he pointed out, He's like, I didn't add bad weight, 488 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 5: it's good way over showing his plus six over last season. 489 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 8: Why why you looked at me when you said bad weight? 490 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: I mean donalize, don't eternalize itternalize, eternalize it. Don't attack 491 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 5: mental health, don't eternalize. We're talking objectively bad weight. Your 492 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: your weight got you, you know, to legendstatus. So that's 493 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 5: a good way, okay, right, it's relative. Okay. So over 494 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: shown he's plus twelve over his pre draft waight plus 495 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 5: six over last year. And I asked him straight straight up, 496 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 5: I said, hey, how quickly or how long did it 497 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 5: take him to get accustomed to his new frame, that 498 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: plus six that added muscle? And he's like, it was 499 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: a it was a little you know, it took a 500 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 5: couple of days during the rehabilitation process. But he said 501 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 5: he's back to full, full goal full form. And just 502 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 5: one thing that he said that really are two things 503 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 5: he said that really stuck out to me. I asked him, 504 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: how excited is he to get back on the field 505 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: and especially get into these preseason games, and he said 506 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: he is looking forward. He's as looking forward to playing 507 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: as he is y'all looking forward to him play, right, 508 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 5: So he's excited, he's ready to go, and he's right, 509 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: we are more than ready to see him back on 510 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: the field, especially for a linebacker corp that needed to 511 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 5: be rebuilt this season. 512 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 6: We needed a last year desperately and to see him 513 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 6: flying already this early. 514 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: After that injury is great. 515 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 8: And you know, I want to give. 516 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: In the background, I think that's yeah, just turn it 517 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: up back. 518 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 9: Let me go on to that over shown and and 519 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 9: he's a perfect example of what we're talking about. Early 520 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 9: in camp, people were noticing this kid. I didn't notice 521 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 9: him as much because I was inssolved in other positions, 522 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 9: but people were telling me, hey, what did you see 523 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 9: over And you know, people, what do you put on 524 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 9: the past? Well, some kids can escalate from the walkthroughs, 525 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 9: the OTAs and they just get better and better with recognition. 526 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 9: And a lot of times that's what it's about. It's 527 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 9: about recognition, knowing where to be. And so when they 528 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 9: put on the pass and this kid was popping, I mean, 529 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 9: he just escalated. And that is what we're talking about. 530 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 9: Can he overcome that knee? Because you talked about the 531 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 9: mental part in the story, go and read it, great, 532 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 9: great article. Uh, And he feels like he has no 533 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 9: problem with it. And if and if any kid can 534 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 9: make that jump where it doesn't bother him, I'm betting 535 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 9: on over shown. 536 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: Here's Overshown's quote to what the big name is saying. Quote, 537 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: you're gonna hear my pads popping. I'm gonna throw my 538 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: pads around, even if I got to hit myself, I'm 539 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 5: hitting somebody. Quote. Yeah, he's ready over. 540 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Shown comma overcome. 541 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 7: Eight people, name by eight people. It ain't none of 542 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 7: them yet, oversho. 543 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: Look at the comments on camping out. People are dying 544 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: for Turkey Turkey. 545 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: Speed speed watch the show watch camping Out, Watch camping Out. 546 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 5: It's camping out. It was fantastic. 547 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: You'll see it. 548 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 6: Anyways, practice picks, so I want you guys to all right, 549 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: practice picks means interceptions. Okay, the secondary is showing out 550 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 6: at campus when you have names like Doron Blande, of course, 551 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 6: but you also have Kaalen Carson rookie. You also have 552 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 6: Josh Butler going out there snagging interceptions. How are we 553 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 6: feeling about the secondary so far? And is it safe 554 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 6: to feel optimistic of the secondary at this point? At 555 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 6: this point, I'm not saying for preseason game, I'm not 556 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 6: saying for the start of the season, but at this 557 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 6: point is it safe to feel optimistic about the secondary? 558 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: Yes? 559 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to talking Cowboys, we really appreciate. 560 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 5: Okay, all jokes aside, even though I was not joking 561 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 5: at all. It is safe to feel optimistic for a 562 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 5: couple of reasons. One, look at how this secondary has 563 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: been able to take the ball away in recent seasons. Okay, 564 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 5: and then you come in. You come off of a 565 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 5: season where you lost Trayvon Diggs. Yeah, you did have 566 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmore there as you know, the stabilizer. But look 567 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 5: at what Deron Bland was able to do move from Nickel, 568 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: which he had a breakout season at as a rookie 569 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 5: following the Joy and Lewis injury. You pop him outside 570 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: and what does he do? He ratches it up the 571 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 5: intensity and he becomes historic with the number of pick sixes. 572 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: You're bringing that energy into this camp and the fact 573 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 5: that Trayvon Diggs could return any day now. But even 574 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: before Treyvon Diggs takes the field, we're talking about interceptions 575 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 5: having already happened. We're talking about Kayln Carson hashtag seat 576 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: belt strapping up guys. Okay, We're talking about Josh Butler 577 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 5: making athletic interceptions. Jordan Lewis had an interception on Dak 578 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: Prescott and guess who else who else with the pick 579 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 5: six in this camp, it's de Ron Bland. Absolutely, you 580 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 5: should feel good about where this secondary is headed pre 581 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs and most certainly post Trayvon Diggs. 582 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 9: What you gotta understand is, and this is this is 583 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 9: old school to me because normally this is how all 584 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 9: of our training camps. When I played, where the defense 585 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 9: is so much ahead of the offense in the secondary, 586 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 9: it showed enough looks that way. Now, not so much 587 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 9: with the defense offensive line because it's been a good 588 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 9: little missmash there, but secondary wise. 589 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 8: And I talked to said, what's happening. 590 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 9: He said, I'm trying to TD boys to eat them 591 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 9: up every chance to get on the field. And uh, 592 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 9: besides Dak, Now, Dak is through a few, but the 593 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 9: other quarterbacks who haven't had any time, and with these 594 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 9: receivers it is showing up tremendously. And it also goes 595 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 9: to how Zimmer is scheming some of these guys. What 596 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 9: we're seeing already is a lot of misdirection. Yes, so 597 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 9: you're seeing a lot of misdirection. 598 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 5: You're seeing safeties drop down to the line, and you're 599 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: wondering is he coming or is he bailing out? And 600 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 5: on any given play, you don't know which one is 601 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: going to be. I saw just yesterday and the end 602 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 5: of the mock game Marquise Bell he dropped down and 603 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: it basically was a single front and then you didn't 604 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 5: know who was going to drop out until the ball 605 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: was snapping and all of a sudden, Marquise drops back 606 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 5: in the single high. On the very next play, it's Donald. 607 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 5: He drops down and Donald. 608 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Goes, I can do this. Yeah, right, I could drop back. 609 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 8: This is how this feels, having eight pounds coming at me. 610 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's that type of misdirection that you're already seeing 611 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: with the Mike Zimmer defense. And I don't think we're 612 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 5: going to see anything but more and more or of 613 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: that as training camp goes on, because I mean, he's 614 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 5: one of the ogs of confusing and just using smoking 615 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: mirrors to confuse quarterbacks and offensive coordinations. 616 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 6: Now, not to get into well, he's a free agent, 617 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 6: so Stephan Gilmore not on this team currently, not on. 618 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: Any team currently. 619 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 6: Would you feel better going into the season with a 620 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 6: signing similar to Stefan Gilmore or do you think we 621 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: played out with the players that we have on this roster. 622 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 5: Now, I'm never going to tell you to not sign 623 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmore. I was on the record in free agency 624 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: saying bring him back. I love what I'm seeing in 625 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 5: training camp. Yes, and I'm still saying, I'm all I'm 626 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 5: on board with bringing him back because you certly doesn't 627 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 5: hurt right. You can't have enough playmakers. You simply can't 628 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: have enough playmakers. And Stefan Gilmore approved last season that 629 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 5: he's still a playmaker. Are you calling the Uniga Stepan? 630 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 5: Just hold off a couple of more weeks to see 631 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 5: if this is what I was going to say. I'm 632 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: absolutely with bringing Stefan Gilmore back. 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He's taking first team reps. Also 713 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 6: Spicy Spicy and Patrick. 714 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: Who did he beat yesterday? 715 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 5: What's what's that guy's name? 716 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: Mike, Michael Parson, Michael Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons. 717 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 5: Let's take it back a couple of days Friday Mott 718 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 5: Game slash walkthrough. We see Tyler Gouyton getting first team reps, 719 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: which is eye opening in and of itself, but it's 720 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 5: also against rookie second round pick Marshawn Kneeland. Fast forward 721 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 5: to yesterday team drills, first team reps again. Check who's 722 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 5: he lined up against the Lion himself. All eyes are 723 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 5: on that matchup, all eyes and then it happened, and 724 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 5: then it happened again. Michael Parsons could not get past 725 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 5: Tyler Goyton and he was bringing out the moves. There's 726 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: one particular rep where he tried to speed rush on 727 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 5: the first step. Guyton got lateral, shut that down. Michael 728 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 5: Reset try to spind move. So that's two moves on 729 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 5: one rep and neither of them got past Tyler Goton. 730 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 5: Keep an eye on that rookie first round pick. He's 731 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 5: been putting in the work this summer and he's making 732 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 5: some strides quickly. 733 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 9: So you know when they put on them pass to 734 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 9: morrow Yeah all eyes, yeah yeah, because when it happened 735 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 9: the first time, you know, Parsley just kind of looked 736 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 9: at the second time, let me give him a second 737 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 9: move just and he's still so now he looking at 738 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 9: him like h yeah yeah, man o, man on now. 739 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was exciting to see. 740 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 6: I'm excited to see more from practice, even though we 741 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 6: don't have practice today. What have been some of the 742 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 6: best just play individual plays that you guys have seen 743 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 6: on the practice field so far in our first weekend. 744 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 5: Here again, go ahead, big mate, what you get? 745 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 8: You know who it is? Billy White shoes. 746 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 5: John's Billy White Shoes, BILLI Johnson is his. 747 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 9: Name, Number thirteen opposite of our boy overshown this kid, 748 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 9: I mean for what they have done, this kid is 749 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 9: he ratcheted up the competition. He letting everybody know that 750 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 9: for every rep you give me, it's one kid wanted 751 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 9: to come out because he thought he had hurt himself 752 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 9: and he saw number thirteen from the run and he 753 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 9: waved him off like nah nah, because this kid is competing. 754 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 9: And that's what you need is guys that are confident 755 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 9: in who they are and what they're doing. This kid's 756 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 9: competing man, and he's making everybody else bring up their 757 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 9: level of competition. Just stay touched from what they can 758 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 9: do with no pads on. 759 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 5: So many opportunities already, just through four days of practice 760 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 5: to point out potential favorite plays. But I'm gonna go 761 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 5: with Theron Bland and that interception. It's not just that 762 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 5: it was an interception. It's how he got that interception. 763 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: He dropped me back. He baited Dak Prescott. He gave 764 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: that the wide receiver just enough space where it felt 765 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 5: it made Dak Prescott feel comfortable that the window was 766 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 5: open for a quick dropping out on a two step. 767 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 5: But as soon as that ball was in the air, 768 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 5: he launched himself to classe, laid out completely, took the ball, 769 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 5: held it through the process, popped back up, and then 770 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 5: pick six. So for me, it's not just that it 771 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 5: was the interception. It's the way that he baited the 772 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 5: quarterback into thinking the window was there, but it wasn't 773 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 5: really there. 774 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: From out of nowhere. 775 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 5: RKO from out of nowhere is basically what Deron Bland is. 776 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 5: He's a human RKO vintage, And if you thought it 777 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 5: was a fluke, you thought wrong. 778 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 9: And you know, I know we're talking about plays, but 779 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 9: it's like Billy, it's been like every play has been Yeah, 780 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 9: he's been doing something. Yeah, especially that bomb on it 781 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 9: on the rood. 782 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 5: But but so so has Jayalen Tobert. Jalen Brooks continues 783 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 5: to impress. Jalen Cropper had a couple of strong days. 784 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 5: So I mean goes back to what we're saying. You know, 785 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 5: this wide receiver competition is off and it's to the races, 786 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 5: and you gotta love that these young guys are taking 787 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 5: advantage of these opportunities because him is on the way 788 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: back sooner than later, and when him returns, then those 789 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 5: reps are going to kind of the windows. So get 790 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 5: it while you can because seedy Lamb won't be going 791 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 5: for long. 792 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 6: You got to step it up all you can. And 793 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 6: that's why you have Kan turping out there too. I mean, 794 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 6: he's he's absolutely. 795 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 5: Why are you enabling? Don't enable? 796 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 7: You want to be using every carbo turp to get used, 797 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 7: you said, but talk to. 798 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 5: Him, you out out to Cavante. Cavante has been going 799 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 5: hard and ratcheting up things this offseason. His chemistry with 800 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 5: Dak Prescott is is quite evident. So when you're talking 801 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 5: about it, and I said this on several episodes, when 802 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 5: you're talking about the Battle for wr Iree, Yes, talk 803 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 5: about Jaylen Tobert, Yes, talk about Jalen Brooks. Yes, talk 804 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 5: about Jalen Cropt and how Tyran Billy Johnson is Billy 805 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 5: White Shoes if you will. It's starting to make those climbs. 806 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 5: But always keep Cavante turpeting that conversation because he is 807 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 5: doing some special stuff as well. 808 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 6: Yes he is, and he's had enough time now he's 809 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 6: a best event on this team. Though basically now, Nate, 810 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 6: you had a great question before we started that you 811 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 6: wanted to add sort of to our rundown. 812 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: What was your question sort of about? It's about practice 813 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: in general. 814 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 9: You know, there's no pads on. Everybody's much aware of that, 815 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 9: of course, and especially with the older guys my age, 816 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 9: a libbing younger, it ain't no pads on. And I've 817 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 9: always told people, you know, it's kind of a forty 818 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 9: nine ers thing, you know, and I've been over that 819 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 9: several times. But what I've liked it about all of 820 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 9: these kids, especially you know, guys that are not rookies, 821 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 9: how they were moving with quickness, with purpose, with the 822 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 9: desire to compete within the framework of what is handed 823 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 9: to them. You don't see a bunch of guys running 824 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 9: running wrong routes. You don't see a bunch of guys 825 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 9: bumping into each other on the games for his pass rush. 826 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 8: You don't see offensive line of blowing assignments or jumping 827 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 8: off sides. 828 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 9: I mean that may come as as they put on 829 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 9: the past, but for what the coaches actually these guys 830 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 9: should do individually and teamwork. These guys seem to know 831 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 9: what to do, know where to be, and go there 832 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 9: with a purpose. 833 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 8: And I like that. I like this early in the camp. 834 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: Well and when these pads come on and we talked 835 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 5: about this at the top of the show, Darrell Johnson 836 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 5: Junior for Hoko the List, Go Choce Ghost at the Edge, 837 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: these guys are really going to have to make things 838 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 5: pop in the absence of Sam Williams. 839 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 6: Well, Okay, this is another thing that that kind of 840 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 6: has fans heated about the Sam Williams injury is that 841 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 6: you know, it's like, what are they doing out there 842 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 6: that this tends to happen? 843 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: You know that this happens once a year. It feels 844 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: like we're we get a catastrophic. 845 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 6: Injury here at camp. And let me be clear that 846 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 6: was a special team's drill. 847 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 5: That was not there were no pads, pads there, Nobody 848 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 5: hit him in the little contact no contact. It's it's 849 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 5: one of those things where now I spoke about this 850 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 5: yesterday with several fans and you know, Cowboys Nation. It's 851 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 5: not specific to the Cowboys. I know we exist in 852 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 5: you know this cow We have a bubble. We are 853 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 5: in this bubble, but there are thirty two bubbles, and 854 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 5: I can assure you that in all thirty two bubbles 855 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 5: they're dealing with the same thing. Torn acls have been 856 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 5: a league wide issue and pandemic as far as injuries 857 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: are concerned for several years now, which is what's birth 858 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 5: the grass versus turf conversation. But obviously Sam Williams, he 859 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 5: tore it on grass, non contact Treyvon Diggs last year 860 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 5: at the facility back home. But it was on the 861 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 5: grass field, right. So my thought process is this in 862 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four and beyond, we're of the age where 863 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 5: athletes are stronger, faster, quicker than they've ever been in 864 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 5: the history of human civilization. That being said, tendons, meniscus 865 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 5: and ligaments are not necessarily able to keep up with 866 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 5: what the muscles are doing when the muscles are operating 867 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 5: at that level. So you know, get you get torn 868 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 5: achilles and pop achilles. You get torn acls, MCLs, pcls 869 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 5: and things like that, and it's just unfortunate. But how 870 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 5: do you get a handle on that, that's the question. 871 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 5: But I don't think there's an immediate answer to it. 872 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 8: You don't get a handle on it. 873 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,959 Speaker 9: It's called football, it's called sports. It's called getting acclimated. 874 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 9: And sometimes you take a bad step and I think 875 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 9: somebody lost their starting kicker just jogging out on the 876 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 9: field and tore up a hamstring. 877 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 8: You lost for the year. This is football. 878 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 9: One thing I would ask all players to do around 879 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 9: the league is trained more within in the house. Let 880 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 9: your uh A training staff and your people's train at 881 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 9: your facilities. Don't go off, stay home. But injuries are 882 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 9: gonna happen. It's called football. It is a physical sport, 883 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 9: and it's not normal. It's not like me and you 884 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 9: and Pat and Josh were just walking around. I mean, 885 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 9: but we can get torn a c L walking up 886 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 9: some steps. Kickball League yeah. 887 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dallas Cowboys Kickball League, we have someone who tore 888 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 5: their a c L playing kickball. 889 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 8: Like Chris Bean is a referee. 890 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hey, I feel like you're hitting the referee 891 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 5: everybody loves. But it just it comes with playing sports 892 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 5: and unfortunately that's just that's just a part of it. So, 893 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 5: you know, what can you do? Not play sports? I 894 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 5: guess because outside of that, injury is going to happen. 895 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 5: They're going to be unfortunate. And Sam say, it was 896 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 5: a freak injury. He went to plant his leg, non contact, 897 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 5: his knee blew out. What can you do? And for 898 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 5: those that are saying, well, you know what more can 899 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 5: the Cowboys do this and this? I've come out here 900 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 5: sometimes and I see the Cowboys defense and offense going 901 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 5: through yoga. Yes, right, So the Cowboys are investing resources 902 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 5: and trying to prevent those soft tissue injury strength conditioning. 903 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 5: So shout out to the trainings that Britt Brown, Jemiza 904 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 5: and the crew. But at the end of the day, 905 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 5: the individual's body is either going to hold up to 906 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 5: it or it's not. And when it's not, you never 907 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 5: know when that might be. So for Sam Williams, Unfortunately 908 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 5: that came on Friday with the torn ACL and mcl 909 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 5: wish them the best long journey to get back. But 910 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 5: the good news is, well should said, the silver lining, 911 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 5: not the good news. The silver lining is John Stevens Junior, Yes, 912 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: Treyvon Diggs, demarv Jonnovershown, David Durtin. We live in a 913 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 5: a league nowadays where a torn ACL does not have 914 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 5: to be career threatening and you can be back on 915 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 5: the field in twelve to thirteen months from now. So 916 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 5: you talk about timing of it happening. Not only does 917 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 5: the timing make it less of a tragedy for the 918 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 5: Cowboys because they now have time to figure out, but 919 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 5: for Sam Williams, he might be on the field next 920 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 5: year's training camp. 921 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: Yes. 922 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we've come a long way in that sense. 923 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: Uh boys, we have to wrap it up. It's nine 924 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 2: forty five. We've got to head out. 925 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 6: Thank you Patrick, Thank you Nate, Thank you for Christopher 926 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 6: Paul Beemer in the background. Go team US, say, keep 927 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 6: up with the very latest on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 928 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 5: Uh who needs two ankles? 929 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: Simone bows absolutely killing it? Go Team USA, uh. 930 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 9: Miss uh go ahead. Synchronized Diving I'm so sad I 931 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 9: don't have the YouTube, but now. 932 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 2: He's so mad at it. 933 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 6: He doesn't want to want to watch any of the 934 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 6: record of the Olympics because he miss synchronized diving. 935 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 2: But I will have Hanging with the Boys later with 936 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: your host Sharon. Thanks for coming. 937 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 12: Uh. 938 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 9: We really appreciate yes, stungrossed my teammate, I'm me and Josh. 939 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 8: Finna go at it. 940 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 941 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 8: We'll catch you next ye over biscuit in a minute. 942 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 10: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 943 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 10: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.