WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Ouija Boards Work 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.120 Hello friends. I hope you're having a creepy Saturday afternoon 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.040 or morning or night. I would recommend saving this stuff 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.239 he should Know select episode until tonight, when you can 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:14.160 break out your Wegia board and learn about Weiga as 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:18.200 you play Wegia and realize that we Jia is just 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.840 bunk and completely made up. From October two, how Wegia 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:29.800 boards work? Right here, right now, Welcome to Stuff you 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:39.120 Should Know, a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:43.159 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.479 Chuck Bryant, Jerry's kind of here. Uh, and this is 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.480 Stuff you should Know. Yeah, this is the last podcast, Uh, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.920 these two today that we're recording in the infamous murder room. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:01.160 Oh yeah, it's right, yeah, murder room. Yeah, we're moving offices, 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:06.000 and what better thing to do than to have a seance, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:10.400 which we're going to conduct after this episode records. Didn't 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.920 you didn't don't know me about this first? Yeah, we're 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.319 having a seance, buddy, I don't know about that. We're 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.240 gonna get down, We're gonna get down the brass tacks 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.400 and answer all the unknown questions. Well, you know, I'll 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.120 tell you what. I will have a seance with you 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.160 using a Weiji board, because now I know how they work, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.240 and I'm not quite as scared of them as I 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:31.360 used to be saying after I saw The Exorcist. Yeah, 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.760 Sai or we I say Wegi. Yeah, I kind of 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.440 do too, although I think it's probably Wegia right, not 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.800 to be confused with the crimes photographer Weig. We're talking 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.840 about the board. Although yeah, I think some people say 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.560 we Ja. Yeah. I just think it's interesting. I said 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.280 Wegi since I was a kid. Yeah, I mean too, 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.760 But I also say reci cup instead of reesis because 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.960 Umi does too. You mean sister do Yeah, And I'm like, no, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.640 it's Reese's. They're like, no, it's Rec's. Yeah. Well I 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.680 don't even say Rec's. I'd just say a reci cup. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.040 I think they. I think I do too. People in 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:09.400 their quirks, Yeah, foibles, I say foibles. Uh. Yeah. You 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.600 should hear him sing that potato Potato song everybody, Yeah, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.160 which apparently I got snookered on that. By the way. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.480 That's an old, an old bit. So I was snookered 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.160 by an urban legend. What the whole potato Potato song 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:24.720 where I say, like, yeah, a friend of mine's friend 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.119 auditioned with this piece and sang it wrong. You thought 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.919 it was for real? Yeah, of course I did. I've 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.000 never heard that before. It's very funny. Yeah. Had you 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.280 heard that, um now, because you would have stopped me. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.560 I know I have heard it before, but it wasn't 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:44.840 too long ago. Was it from my mouth? Maybe? But 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.000 I didn't think like that it was. It actually happened. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:54.200 I think anyway, we gi su every day, we gi board. Yes, um, 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.000 and I mentioned exorcists already. You saw that, right, of 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.519 course A bunch of times enough. Here is a trivia 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.280 question for you. What is the name of the spirit 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.520 Reagan communicates with? I didn't even have to look this up? 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.359 Uh through her wigi board. Geez, I don't remember Captain Howdy? 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.760 Shut up? No, do you remember? Now? Captain Howdy was 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.160 who she's talking with? Who is the devil? I guess 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.000 that was one of his aliases. I wonder if he 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.720 has like a devil passport that says Captain Howdy on 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:30.680 Devil Satan Lucifer Captain. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's true. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.240 That makes it a little less frightening. So um what 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.720 was that the early seventies that Exorcist came out, right, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:41.120 I think so okay um and the Wigi board, the 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.080 one she was playing with, I believe was a Parker 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.040 Brothers BIGI board was it now has bro um And 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:53.960 that was this mass manufactured, mass marketed toy game. But 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.480 it was actually based on like a real phenomenon that 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.000 we've talked about here on this show, before the um 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:05.800 spiritualism movement of the nineteenth century. The Luigi board first 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.960 made its appearance around then. Supposedly they claim providence for 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.400 this way further back than that, but there's no real 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.520 evidence that the Ouiji board itself is any older than 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:21.400 the mid nineteenth century, and that it's American in origin. Yeah, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.679 the actual Wijia brand board is what you're talking about, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.640 right right, or talking boards in general, which is another 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.080 name for like a Wigi board as a talking board. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.680 But not all talking boards are Wigi boards, that's right. 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.480 So you're saying there's no evidence that they existed before, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.000 like in the eight hundreds before that, before that, no, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.960 there there people did use divination. There is a pretty 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:48.880 good source. A fourth century BC Greek scholar who wrote 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.840 a history um, who talks about a pair of men 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.560 who were killed for dividor for using divination. But they 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.320 used a pendulum and a disc with the alphabet round 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.240 it to spell out a message. So there were divinations 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:09.000 people did use um like style. Yeah, I don't know 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.440 if they use the plan chet. But the Luiji board itself, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:17.320 despite being marketed for many years, is something from Egyptian antiquity, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.000 is probably something no or that was created no earlier 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.240 in the mid nineteenth century in the States. Well one 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.800 is uh. An attorney name Alijaban patented what was called 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.560 the Wigia Egyptian luck board. Um. And it's important to 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.279 point out when when these things are marketed, they when 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.839 you read the fine print, they never claim to be 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.200 able to, you know, talk with the spirits. It's like 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.680 just sort of it's a game, right, it's a game now, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.000 And it was once it became mass marketed, they started 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:54.160 the Yeah. But in eight one it was part of 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:59.159 this larger offshoot of spiritualism. Yeah, and we talked a 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.400 bit about egypt pology and it sort of all ties 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.240 in seances were big. You remember, they cracked the hieroglyphic 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.760 code from the Rosetta stone just a couple of decades before, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.119 so Egypt was like this weird place with all sorts 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.080 of strange cults and rituals. Yeah, and it's just it's 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.560 strange to me that something like the occult, even on 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.520 a minor level, sort of took hold in the United 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.320 States at one point. Uh. And I don't know how 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.080 if it was accepted by the masses, but like you know, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.080 regular people and noteworthy people would hold seances and try 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.520 to communicate with their dead relatives, usually through a medium 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.600 who was usually female. Right, you know there weren't a 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.800 lot of dudes doing it. Uh. No, there are a 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.039 lot of dudes who were involved in it, but the 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.280 mediums were typically female, and a lot of them used 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.760 things that were like the Luigi board talking boards. Yeah, 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.120 like they you mentioned the dial plate, which was a 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.599 spinning wheel with letters and numbers, and the alphabet board, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.120 which was sort of like a wigia board, but um, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.800 you just pointed to different letters and waited for a 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.239 response from the great beyond. Some had a little pencil 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.880 that would like actually write things out right, that used 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.559 the plan chet, which is French for a little plank, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.440 which is a little uh, a little board or something 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.320 maybe like a circular disc on three legs, and then 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.240 one of the legs for a writing plan chet. Um 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.920 was basically a hole with a pencil going through it, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.760 so that when the plan chet moved using the medium's hands, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.000 but the spirit was really in control, the pencil would 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.600 write something hopefully. Uh So, back to the Wiji Board, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:41.600 the official game version. Over about seventy years, it changed 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.320 ownership a few times, eventually landing at Parker Brothers, which 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.240 is now has Bro. Like you pointed out right, Ali 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.800 Jaban the guy who um, he didn't come up with 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.520 the first Weigi board, but he was the first one 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.080 to make an improvement on an existing patent and um, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.360 the Wiji board, as we understand it, that was his 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.640 how we see it now, and he actually went off 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.600 after he sold the rights to it to a guy 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:09.000 named um Charles Knard. Uh Elijah Bond went off and 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.280 created a rival version that had a huge swastika on 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.440 It didn't perform so well. Uh no, it did at first, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.280 because we're talking seven did you have that association was 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.760 still like a mystical symbol, but it was made by 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.800 the Swastika Novelty Company in West Virginia that he founded 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.200 to produce this rival board, and it's considered his other 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.080 Luigi board. That's pretty funny, isn't that weird? Yeah? My friend, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.880 my friend Jesse Char the other day tweeted something funny 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.960 about design. I think it was something likeent of design 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.199 is trying to make something not look like a swastika 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.800 or a penis. I thought that was pretty good. Did 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.520 she make that up or have you heard that? I 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.640 have not heard of that, alright, so I'm giving credit 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:55.000 to Jesse Char, so um, chuck. The point is the 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.319 Wuiji board took this, this thing that was being used 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.319 by mediums as part of a very serious spiritualism movement, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:08.080 and said, hey, you don't need um, this crazy old 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.920 lady to contact your dead uncle. Now you can buy 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.839 one and do it in your own home over cocktails exactly. Um. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.400 And a lot of people took it like that from 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.840 the get go. I think some people probably purchased Wiji 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:24.240 boards seriously, but I think from from the outset it 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.040 was a part of a party. It was a conversation starter, 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.520 something that that you just did socially too for fun, 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.720 for sure. I think that there was always a large 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.440 segment of the Ouiji board buying population that just took 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.080 it as as entertainment. Yeah, exactly, which it's probably how 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.200 you should take it. Uh. From Kennard, he had an 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:50.040 employee named William Fold nephew L D who Uh, who 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.440 basically took it over to the point where he even 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.200 stamped his name inventor on the back of it, even 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.920 though he wasn't. And he's credited as being sort of 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.920 the father of the Luigia board because he's the one 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.319 that really ran with it in a marketing sense and 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.720 brought it to the masses and uh would do all 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.600 the press for it. Um. He claimed that the French 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.920 and German words for yes, we and yah is where 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.000 the name comes from, even though that's not true. Well, 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.559 even before that, Charles Kennard said that, Um, he came 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.960 up with the name by asking the board itself what 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.520 it was called. And it's spelled out oh U I 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.000 j A, And he asked it what it meant, and 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.160 the board told him it was Egyptian for good luck. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.360 So that was the story. And then yeah, I guess 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.520 Fold was like it means yes and yes, yes and 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.600 yes pretty much in French and German. It's pretty good, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.839 So like we said, um fold sold it to Parker Brothers, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.480 who turned into Hasbro. And now when you buy a 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:50.120 Wigi brand wid you board, it's from Hasbro. Yeah. And 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.600 the article here makes a point to U two call 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:58.200 out the Catholics for um basically saying that it could 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.360 be an evil thing and not to use it. But 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.320 as a little Baptist boy, we were very much told 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.880 not to use a Wigi board. I remember specifically, um 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.800 my uncle like burning his Wija board. Yeah, did he 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.520 go out and buy it just so he could burn it? Friday? 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.560 We got a party going in my house. Yeah, it's 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:21.959 pretty funny to look back. When I was a kid, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.880 I was like, yes, get rid of that evil thing. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.600 Were you there when he burned it? No? I wasn't there, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.160 but I heard about it, and that was just good 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.520 for him. That's cool. Throw throwing candy Land while you're 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.800 at it, because that game stinks. What was the Shoots 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.720 and Ladders? I never played that? I was into? Sorry, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.640 remember that one? Yeah? That one made you like hate 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.480 the other people you played with though, right, didn't couldn't 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.400 you like get ahead by screwing over your fellow players? 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.680 That's I think that's why it was called sorry. Yeah. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.480 I think like if you landed on someone, you sent 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:56.439 him back in the beginning and yeah, yeah, maybe I 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.280 just played with Jerk soon knows. Maybe so um so chuck. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:06.400 The Uigi board UM. From the original Bond creation to 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.600 the one you get today from Parker Brothers, the design 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.240 of it has changed very little. Yeah, I guess we 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.320 should describe it. I mean, I assume most people have 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.400 seen one, although you know I've never used one, have you? Oh? Yeah, 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.760 when I was younger, i'd totally be into trying it out. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.400 It's neat for fun, you know, it's very neat, because 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.880 I mean, the thing is just moving around the board 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.320 by itself. All right, So we will describe the board 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.760 if you have not seen it. Um. It has the 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.520 alphabet and two different arcs, has numbers below the alphabets. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.480 It has a yes in one corner with I think 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.079 a moon, and a no in one corner with the sun. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.160 And therein lie the answers. My friend. Oh, don't forget 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.480 the most important part, basically what amounts to the off button. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:55.040 It's goodbye written at the bottom the number. So yeah, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.679 it's sort of like a satanic magic eight ball kind of, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.240 except this really works and it's not satanic, right. Um. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.240 So the the way that you use um this talking 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.200 board um, which again, if you're interested in this and 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.760 you want to see some pretty cool old Buiji boards 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.240 and the Swastika board as well, UM and another one 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.800 called the Sphinx board, which I think is the coolest one. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.800 It's from like the forties. Um. There's this awesome online 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.960 museum called the Museum of Talking Boards, and they have 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.560 histories of all this, the history of the Buiji board, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.760 history of talking boards, UM, just some really great articles 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.360 and images on there. So go check that out because 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.800 it's a pretty cool website. UM. But when you're when 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.400 you're using this, um, well the instructions have stayed the 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.440 same too, not only the design but the gameplay itself. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.960 It's just about the same as it was way back 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.680 in the nineteenth century. Right. And when you use this, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.439 they say you want to have two or more people, yeah, um, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:59.320 with their fingers lightly resting, just your fingertips lightly resting 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.360 on the plant chet and we should say the plant chet, um, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.920 like the other plant chet that used a pencil to write. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:10.280 It's just a little um plastic heart shape board. I 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.000 guess with three small legs, and then a circular um 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.520 plastic covered disc in the middle, clear plastic disc that 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.560 you look through, and the disc shows you the letter 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.880 number or word that the spirit is communicating. That's right. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.960 When you look down through the plane chet, that's the 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.880 letter word in question. That's right. So you sit there, 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:36.000 you ask a question aloud. Everyone concentrates. No, no joking 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.280 around going on. No, even Fold himself said, you want 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.080 to make sure that the people whore at the table 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.200 are taking this seriously or else second to work right? Well, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:48.000 even though it was advertised for mirthmaking, you gotta cut 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.160 the mirth down when you're actually operating the board. Take 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.280 the guy who has the lampshade on his head, he's 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.240 got to get out of that room. Uh. So, then 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.240 you ask a question, and then everyone watches, and the 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:06.560 plan Chet, as if by magic or Satan's dark powers, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.200 moves along in either answers yes or no questions, or 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:16.520 spells things out. Um, you want somebody to jot down yeah, sure, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.000 the letters or numbers as they are read out, And 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.280 and in the article it says ideally they spell out 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.200 words or sin it says they can the players can understand. Um, 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.400 like it would. If it's spelled out a nonsense word 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.200 like wegia, you would probably just say it's it's malfunctioning, 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.480 or you would say what does that mean, and then 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.520 it would spell out it's Egyptian for good luck, or 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.000 German and French free. Yes, I wonder if wegia boards 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.360 always answer the same when you ask them what wegia means. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.320 I don't know, we should I started saying it differently 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.040 all of a sudden, down Sidewigi. I've just said wegia 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.720 a couple of times. Interesting, how do you pronounce the 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.360 thing that you clean your windshield with that is squiga 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.200 or a squeegee? Yeah, but that's s q u e 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:30.640 g e e eat. There's three No, I'm just kidding. Evidently, 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.520 it can take up to five minutes for the plan 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.800 chet to start moving, which I don't know if I 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.680 would have the patience for that, I know I might 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.560 start moving it on my own. Oh yeah, you know, 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.600 well then you would be the life of the party, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.360 especially if you said, like, I'm being contacted by the spirits. Right, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.000 if after five minutes you don't get any movement from 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.960 the plane chet, you want to either ask the question 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.680 again or ask another question. Um. And there's some there's 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:02.640 some tips for using your Wiji board to mat maximum capacity. Um. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.399 One of them is concentration. Again they do with the 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.119 Lambshade needs to go sit in the living room, watch 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.960 TV or something while everybody else is doing this. Um, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.040 you want to turn down the lights, maybe, burn some candles, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.840 burn some in incense, turn off that smartphone and the TV. Maybe. Yeah, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.439 and uh, you really want to concentrate. And when you 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:29.679 ask questions, you want to ask them slowly, clearly, simple questions. Um. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.520 And you want to ask them one at a time 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.120 and wait for the answer the response before you ask 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.800 the next question. Yeah. And they also recommend that you 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:41.239 avoid um scary questions because that could lead you down 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:46.280 a dark path, my friend, and always above all else 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.520 in the game by saying goodbye, because if you leave 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.160 that portal open to the great beyond, the bad people 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.600 might come in through that portal and find you and 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.960 kill you. Ask Reagan from the Exorcists, right, things can 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.040 go pretty badly. So you want to end each session 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.200 with the plan chet over goodbye and then breathe a 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.280 sigh of relief exactly. Um. And apparently if this doesn't 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.560 work the first time you do it, you shouldn't be frustrated. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.160 In fact, the Museum of Talking Boards has a regiment 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.960 that they prescribe um thirty minutes of practice every day 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:26.119 for two weeks, and apparently you'll open your chakras or 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.840 something and all of a sudden you will be speaking 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.560 through the Wiji board, or the spirits will be speaking 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.000 through you go through the Weigi board. Is that before 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:42.960 after the opium regimen that they advise. I think the 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:48.480 Museum of Talking Boards is um. They're more historical. They're 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.119 more interested in the history background of the whole thing. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.080 So let's talk about this for a minute. People sit down. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.320 They put their fingertips on this thing. The plan chet moves, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.760 I mean moves like we're not making this up. Like 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.280 if you've never messed with a Wigi board before, like 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.240 give it a shot with another friend, and like the 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.000 chances are the things going to just start moving by itself. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.000 It's eerie, especially when you're younger. Now see, I've never 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:14.800 done it. I explained this to me. What do you mean? 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.640 I will show you so, um, I get it. But 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.600 the thing, this, this plan chett is very light plastic. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.440 The feet might even have felt on him or something 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:31.359 like that. It's designed to move very easily forward. No, 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:36.879 I think original Planchet's headcast um. But you're just basically 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.560 you're you're being pulled around the table, so you actually 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.200 want to be in a comfortable position because your fingertips 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.199 are just sitting on this thing. And then when you 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.320 ask a question after a while, it'll move. I've never 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.600 seen one move fast, but it just moves kind of slow. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.960 But I mean, there's no question about you're not thinking. 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.960 Isn't moving Like it's moving over to a letter and 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.760 then it's moving over to another letter and then it's 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.240 selling something out. But you are moving it. No, you're 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.040 not in your head. Here here's the thing, like, let's 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.280 get to the science of this. You are in fact 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:13.800 moving it and there, but you are not conscious of 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.920 moving it, which is the awesome part of it. It's 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:20.520 this thing called idio motion. Yeah, which is someone pronounce 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.520 ideo and I didn't know if they were just being 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.240 fancy or not. It can go either way ideo idio motion, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:31.440 but the the it is an actual involuntary motion. It's 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.840 one of the types of involuntary motion of which human 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.360 beings are capable thanks to our muscles and neurons. Yeah. 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.400 It was coined by due named William Carpenter in two 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.920 to explain dawsing rods, which is the same kind of 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.760 you know thing basically, Yeah, dawsing rods pendulums um idiomotion 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:56.280 is where thought proceeds precedes movement, and the other part 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.280 of it is that we're unaware of that movement. Yeah, 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:03.359 it's movement without owning that basically. So when you apply 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.040 that to we Ji boards, you have what's called the 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:10.240 ideo motor effect, where you your thought is placed in 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.320 the form of a question to Theuiji board, and then 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.879 the movement, the unconscious movement. You're not aware that you're moving, 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.760 UM moves to answer that question. So if you're thinking yes, like, 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.160 am I speaking with uh, you know, great uncle Charlie. Yes, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.119 and you really want to and you're you're thinking, yeah, man, 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.280 I hope he's there. So you're unconscious or subconscious? Which 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.280 is it? I would guess unconscious. I think it's unfashionable 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:41.480 to use subconsciousness. UM. It would move it to the yes, 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.000 but you wouldn't realize. You would think it was just 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.800 moving and and that that's where the weji board fund 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.080 comes from chuck like you don't realize you're moving it, 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:55.160 like you you have no sensation of movement. And like 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.760 you said, this is this idea. Motion is a um, 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.920 it's it's we've understood it for a while since early 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.000 eight hundreds. And even Fold himself in one of his 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:09.000 patents said, and I think explained that it was moved 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:13.399 by unconscious muscular movement of the prayers. And back in 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.960 the eighteen hundreds, this guy named Anton Chevrel Chevroule chavrell 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:23.600 he Um basically proved this using a pendulum on a string. Yeah, 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.959 and it's um. You've probably long heard about the the 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:28.560 old wives tale. If you want to find out what 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.080 your baby's gender, you hold um like a ring on 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:36.040 a string over the ballet and wait for it to move. 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:37.880 And if it moves back and forth, it's a boy. 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.600 That's circular, it's a girl. Um. And it's the same. 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:45.879 Basic thing is is the chevrol pendulum. Basically, it's just 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:51.600 ideo motion. In effect, you are unconsciously swinging the string. Yeah, 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.840 and whichever way you probably desire exactly. That's what makes 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.600 it so fascinating, is what you're really seeing is the 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:03.639 unconscious telegraphing supposed to of the mother's wishes of what 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.320 gender she would like, because she's in fact controlling it, 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:12.120 but she's her muscles are moving so minutely that she's 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.840 not aware of the movement. But since the pendulum is 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.920 on the string, it really kind of really telegrash these 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.719 very very tiny movements and then inertia takes over and 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.399 it really starts going. So it just seems amazing because 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.240 the hands not moving, but the ring is going crazy. 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.040 It's going crazy. Uh, this is the same. If you 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.719 ever heard of facilitated communication, it's pretty controversial. Um, you've 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.959 probably seen it on the news. It's when basically a 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.440 caregiver will guide the fingers of someone who's severely disabled 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:49.760 over a typewriter, typewriter, a typing machine, over a keyboard 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:57.800