1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of the the Club Sha Shade. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: I am your host, also the proprietor Club Sha Shade. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: The guy that's stopping by for a drinking conversation today 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: was the unanimous All American in his final season at 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: the University of Oklahoma. He was NFL Offensive Rookie of 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the Year in two thousand and seven. He was NFL 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: MVP in twenty twelve. A seven time pro bowler, four 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: time first team All Pro, unanimous all decades of the 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: twenty tenth, three time Russian leader, two time touchdown Russian 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: leader All day Eighthrian Peterson. All my life, then running 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: all my life, sacri fice, hustle, back price. One slice 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: got the browner dice to swad all my life. I've 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: been grinding all my life, all my life, then running 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: all my life up sacri fice, hustle, backed prices. One 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: slice got the brolla dice to swad all my life. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life. AP, what's going on? Bro? 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Not much now much? How are you doing? I'm good, 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: brou How are you feeling I'm feeling good man, I'm 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: feeling good, feeling juvenated, feeling fresh. You're coming off a 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: year fourteen, what have you learned about your body and 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: how do you what do you want to do? Well? 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: I've learned about my body is you know, taking care 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: of it really pays dividends, right, So like this at 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: all my years, this probably has been the best off season, 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, coming out no injuries, nothing nagging, just feeling 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: really good and feeling fresh, you know. So I look 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: forward to continue to play this game as long as possible. 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: So listening at you talk now, you say you feel refresh, 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: you rejuvenated. You went into the off season, you don't 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: really have any injuries, so it sounds like you're leaning 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: towards coming back for year fifteen. Yes, sir, definitely. You know, 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: one thing I've always told myself is I want to 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: play this game to the point where I'm able to 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: retire on my own. You know. You know, if my 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: body is started telling me something different, then you know, 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: I'll shut it down a little earlier. But you know, 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: when I look back, I want to know that I 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: put my best effort out there. I gave everything I 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: had and I was still able to play at a 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: high level. You said your body will tell you with 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: your training, it reported that you used to train five 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: five and a half hours a day. How have your 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: training changed as you've aged in the NFL. I've cut back, 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: you know. I can't say I'm the same like I 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: was when I was twenty something years old, you know that. 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: It was that the hardest thing because I knew that. 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: The thing that hurt me is that as I started 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: to age, I still tried to do the same volume. 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I tried to do the same intensity, and it was 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: killing my quality, was killing my hamstrings. I didn't understand. 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: I felt great, but my body just couldn't take that. 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Is that what you're finding out that you, as much 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: as you want to, you just can't train like you 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: could it in your twenties. Yeah, yeah, it's different, especially 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: like the main thing for me is the recovery, right, 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: the recovery aspect of it. It's a lot longer, you know, right, 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: I just can't snap back like I used to, you know, 58 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: So I say I do things like pool workouts, parliates. 59 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I picked up on a lot and to kind of 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: tweak some of the things that I'm doing. You mentioned 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years back that you would like to 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: try to play until your forties. If I'm not mistaken. 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna be thirty six and a couple of months here. 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Do you still have aspirations of playing into your forties? 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: Have a running back? I do? I do? I do. Now, 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: you know that's different than played into your forties of 67 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback exactly exactly And if people say that all 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: the time, but Tom Brady he's forty three, I'm like, 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: totally different positions. Man, you can build those quarterbacks and 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: they're throwing the black. I got a living guys coming 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: at me, So would you like? It seems to me 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about this a little later 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: that the lines you've just finished last season with the Lions. 74 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: It seems like they're going to the rebuilding motive. That's 75 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: something that you want to be a part of. I 76 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: know you want an opportunity to compete for a title. 77 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe the Lions will present that opportunity for 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: you next year? I don't know, to be honest with you, 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: because like the quarterback situation that just took place then 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: bringing in it was named Jared Jed Golf, I don't 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how he'll fit within that offense. You know, 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: I feel like they have the tools offensively, but there's 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that they were only last year, 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, Marvin Jones, I don't know, Gallidate. If these 85 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: guys are not coming back, and then it's really gonna 86 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: be a rebuilding, you know, situation. And of course that's 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: not something that that I would you know, love to 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: be a part of it. But you know, at the 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like, who's gonna give me 90 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to come in and play, you know, So 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: that's that's really the most important thing obviously, you know, 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: being on a great team is what I would prefer, 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, to have the opportunity to chase the championship. 94 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if that doesn't 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: present itself, then I'm still trying to play this game 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: in a high level and help the team, trying to 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: accomplish that goal. Are you surprised the Lions traded Matthew 98 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Stafford considering that what he was with that organization and 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: how well he has played over the years, Are you 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: surprised that they made this move? Yeah, I was surprised. 101 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: I was surprised, and it was interesting that I was 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: talking to my dad about this other day that it 103 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: was a mutual, mutual you know, understanding, yeah, decision. I 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: was like, hmm, that's that's very interesting. Taking that, you know, 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: a couple of other guys that played there that they 106 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't have that opportunity. Well, that's that's the way I'm 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: saying that one party wanted to leave. They said it 108 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: was mutually. It's kind of like a relationship when we 109 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: get into borates. It was a mutual parting of the waves. Nah. 110 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: Somebody said we wanted out in the same face, we 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: both bought it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: was an interesting move. So what are your expectations? Do 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: you believe that Matthew Stafford coming to the Rams give 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: them an opportunity to win the title considering what they 115 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: have around him, both offensively and defensively and the great 116 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: mind of Sean mcvah. Yeah, I do. I do. You 117 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: know when they when they made the move, I was like, 118 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: you know what, that was a win for for the 119 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Rams because you think about mat Matthew Stafford and his 120 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: game and being around him for a year. He's a 121 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: very smart, you know quarterback. You know, you know some 122 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: of the decisions that he made throughout the season, you know, 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: it was kind of questionable, you know, And but I 124 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: think that kind of stemmed from his competitive He's so competitive, 125 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, and he's he's he'll hold on to their 126 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: ball the very last second, and sometimes it kind of 127 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: costs us, you know, four or five yards here and 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: our defense we didn't have that type of defense that 129 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: the Rams have that they get throughout that they never 130 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: come that, you know. So for his style, and I'm 131 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: sure he also crashed a little more because, you know, defensively, 132 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: we really weren't stout, so he I think he was 133 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: more in the mode of he had to make something happen. 134 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: So being with the Rounds, it's a totally different, you know, 135 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: environment that he's gonna be around. He's gonna have way 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: more opportunities. He's not gonna feel like he has to, 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, force different things so I have to make 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: every play, every play. Yeah, he don't have to do 139 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: that now. So I think it's gonna be a really, 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: really good, really good move for him. You mentioned Tom 141 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Brady earlier. Tom Brady's forty three playing in his tenth 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He said about four or five years ago 143 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: he said he would like to play the forty five. 144 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: They asked him the other day. He said, yeah, I 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: might be interested in playing beyond forty five? Does that 146 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: give you hope that Tom Brady thinks about playing to 147 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: forty five? Maybe beyond? Does that give you that, you 148 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: know what, forty might not be out of the possibility, 149 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: But that's a long way the way. That's that's five ye, 150 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: that's five years from you for you. Yeah, yeah, but 151 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: it does, you know, it does. Like when I look 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: at guys like Tom Brady, you know, Drew Breesty two, 153 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like, that's for me, that's motive. 154 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 1: Even though I understand that we played different positions based 155 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: on how I know, my body feels like that's still 156 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: is motivation for me. It's like, you know what, these 157 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: guys are, you know, doing the impossible? You know, so 158 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: why why can't I? Why do you believe? Tom has 159 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: been so successful for so long to be able to 160 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: play at this level. It doesn't matter the system, it 161 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: doesn't matter the players around them, It seems it doesn't 162 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: matter the coach that he's able to maintain and perform 163 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: at a very high level. What do you think of 164 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: some of the keys to its success? I would say 165 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: number one is his mental. You know, it's his his mindset, 166 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, just you just hear him talk to guys 167 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: and like, for instance, after they on an NFC Championship game, 168 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: I heard one of the linebackers he was saying that, 169 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was some guys crying or he was 170 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: sharing a couple of tears, and Tom Brady was like, 171 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: you know what about you're crying for it? You know 172 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: it helps, you know, So just like having that type 173 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: of mindset, a lot of guys don't have it, you know. 174 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: And it's clear that his work ethic has allowed him 175 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: to play till forty three. And I would say that's like, 176 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: that's a B. You know what I'm saying. I mean 177 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: one one B as far as the work that you 178 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: put in, because there anything you do. I've always been 179 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: a firm believer in this is you get out what 180 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: you put in, you know. So you can tell that 181 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: not only is he a student of the game, but 182 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: he works his mechanics and he's still been doing it 183 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: for a long time, you know. So if it ain't broke, 184 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: don't fix it. Who were retiring first? You are? Fred Gore, 185 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Frank Gore. You're gonna wait about here already two years. 186 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: He got two years over me right now, so I'm 187 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: playing catch up. Look, let's stop being a round the bush. 188 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: We know what you want. You want that eighteen thousand, 189 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty five held by Amy Smith. That's 190 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: what you want. Let's be really, let's be all the 191 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: way one hundred. That's what you want. That is where 192 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm want. But I can't sit there. I wanted more 193 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: than a championship. I didn't want a championship. But to 194 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: sit here and say that eighteen is you know, passing 195 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: him is not something that I'm I'm chasing to I 196 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: will be lying to you. I definitely want to do that. 197 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: But the thing is, the questions that I have for 198 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: you is that do you think you're gonna get the 199 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: opportunities because that's a little you're a little over four 200 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: thousand yards away. Are you gonna get the opportunities? Are 201 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: you gonna get the carries that's gonna give you the 202 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: number to get to that. I think it's possible. I 203 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: really do, I really do you know, get into a 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: situation where you know I'm getting two hundred carries, one 205 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty carries, you know, making the best of 206 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: those opportunities. It's all I can ask for, you know. 207 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like that opportunity can present itself. But 208 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you're getting that fewer carriage you used to, 209 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: you used to three hundred carriage, so you know you 210 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: could have to average four to half five yards over 211 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: that one fifty to two hundred already. Know. Hey, So 212 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: my mind setting too this offseason as being you know what, 213 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: I've been reflecting back on the last two or three years, 214 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know what, like what I 215 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: said earlier, you get out what you put in. You know, 216 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: I've grinded the last couple of years, but I haven't 217 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: put the work in that I know I'm capable of 218 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: putting in. So from that standpoint, I know that when 219 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: this season come around, when I'm presenting with the opportunity, 220 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be something totally different than what has been 221 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: what I've shown the past couple of years. You mentioned 222 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: you haven't put the work over the last couple off 223 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: seasons that you you know you can. Was it because 224 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: of injuries or were there other things going on that 225 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: prevented you from doing that? Yeah, that was definitely other 226 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: things going on that prevented me from doing that, you know, 227 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: and I just have to sit back and reflect on 228 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: those things and eliminate those things, those distractions, and you know, 229 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: coming to this off season with a totally different mindset, 230 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: there are some situations if I'm not we don't have 231 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: to relive. We know what transpired. You got suspended. You 232 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: was on the commissioners exempt lists twenty fourteen, so that's 233 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen games, fifteen sixteen games you missed. You got 234 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: an injury about week three one year, so that's another 235 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: thirteen games. Do you believe had you been able to 236 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: fulfill that's those seasons, you would be a lot closer. 237 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: You'd probably say maybe a thousand yards five hundred yards 238 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: behind where you need to be right now, if you 239 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: were able to play in those seasons without a doubt, 240 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: I definitely, I definitely believe that. You know, that's something 241 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: that I thought about on several occasions. You know, it's like, 242 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: I really I really missed. That's what keep you up 243 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: at night, didn't it? Knowing that you missed that you 244 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: missed thirty basically thirty games, and basically in your prime, 245 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: when you were like you were all day and you 246 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: were getting the lion's share. You're getting two fifty and 247 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: you're getting three hundred carriages, and you were averaging four 248 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: and a half yards of carriage, and you're you're a 249 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, sixteen hundred yards, and you extrapolate that over 250 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: two years, you're a lot closer now. You would have 251 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: been a lot closer now than what you are currently 252 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: without without a doubt. And that's something that I, like 253 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: you said, I've laid in the bed some nights and 254 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: been like, man, you know, just what if I would 255 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: have been able to play those you know, those thirty games. Yeah, 256 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I'll definitely be sitting in a different position right now. 257 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: And really, you know, at thirty turned thirty six, here 258 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: soon approaching m Smith. I said something on air in 259 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and you took a fence with it, and 260 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: I want to We're gonna get your thought process, and 261 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you why I said what I said. 262 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: I said that ap can have a game and as 263 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: we start to get older, and I was one of 264 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: those guys. I wasn't as great a player as you, 265 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: but as I got older, I could have spot games. 266 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I could go get a hundred a couple of touchdowns 267 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: maybe once once every month, but to be able to 268 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: do that consistently. If that that's where I felt, and 269 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: I felt I didn't. I didn't. I don't. I didn't 270 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: believe that you were going to get the opportunities that 271 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: you have been afforded in Minnesota, the Lions share in 272 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: your career a d all the carries you want, as 273 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: much as you can take, you take them knowing that 274 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: you were going to New Orleans and you're gonna have 275 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: to split carries with Alvin Camara, knowing that you were 276 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: going to other places, and now all of a sudden, 277 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I didn't feel that you were going to get the 278 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: opportunities to showcase what you could really do. You felt 279 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: that I was taking a dig at you. I think, 280 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: why why did you think I was taking a dig? 281 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't. I didn't see it from that perspective, 282 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I didn't. So when it came across 283 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: to me, it was more so like like everyone else, 284 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: That's where it kind of fell into that category, Oh, 285 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: he's too old, he's to be productive and to produced, 286 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: because we've we've seen you know, other elite players of 287 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: his caliber that once they got to that age, they 288 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: weren't be able to be successful and have success. But 289 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: I was trying. I tried to explain it. I said, yeah, 290 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: as we get older, he I don't believe, and I didn't. 291 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: I didn't believe you can still be as dominant. But 292 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you weren't gonna get the 293 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to do that, You're gonna be subtracting one hundred carries, 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: well a hundred carries. Even if you're only averaging four yards, 295 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,359 Speaker 1: that's four hundred yards, well four hundred yards. You extrapolate 296 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: that over cup over three four years, that's twelve fourteen 297 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: hundred yards, which is closer to your ultimate goal. Now, sorry, 298 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: like hearing you're saying that. Now, I don't know what Cliff, 299 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm like. So I understand your perspective, you know, when 300 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: you're explaining like that. But then I also took a 301 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: personal too, because like I've always been a fan of yours, 302 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, right, I looked up and I still don 303 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: you thought I was taking a shot at you. Yeah, 304 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm like my favorite tite all the time. I understand 305 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: that me being the person, to me being the player 306 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: that I am, that when I speak, it carries a 307 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: little more weight than somebody that didn't play the game 308 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: or didn't play the game at a higher level. So 309 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm very cautious. I'm very mindful of what I say 310 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: and how I said, because I understand I've been I've 311 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: been on the other side. I've been sitting with Adrian 312 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Peterson is sitting and so to hear former players say thing, 313 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: especially one that's one that's played at a very high level, 314 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: they carry a little bit more weight. And so that's 315 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: why I was trying to be mindful to try to explain. 316 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: You have to understand, yeah, he's in year twelve, but 317 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna get the same opportunities now Alvin camaras down there, 318 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: coming off an outstanding rookie season. He's gonna have to 319 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: share carriages with Adrian Peterson. He goes, I mean the 320 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: excuse me, with Alvin, he goes somewhere else. He's gonna 321 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: have to share carries. He's not He's not the bail 322 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: cow back anymore. And so I think when they brought 323 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: it to you, they basically said, well, Sara Sharan said, 324 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: you washed up. I told you, But they did they 325 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: playing the rest of the party, or what I was 326 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: saying exactly, And that's that's how I know him to 327 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: go and see you you're explaining it just like you're 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: explaining it, but then the headline tould be something totally different. 329 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: You grew up in a small town, Palestine, Texas. What 330 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: was it like growing up in that small town? And 331 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: did you always know you wanted to be an NFL player? 332 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: I did, you know? Very small town, you know. I 333 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: remember playing. I'll never forget the first time I started 334 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: playing football, organized football. I was at my grandmother's house. 335 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: It was like seven o'clock. My grandpa was up drinking coffee, 336 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: was reading the newspaper. My granny was outside watering the flowers, 337 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: and my dad pulled up and she came in. She said, 338 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: your dad, Your dad said, put some clothes on, put 339 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: some shoes on. He's filla take you somewhere. So I 340 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: put my shoes on and we're driving, and it like, 341 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: really it looked like we're exiting. We're leaving Palestine, right 342 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: and we're going towards the complex. I remember it being 343 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: out there, and then he makes that right turn. He 344 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm taking you up here and sign 345 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: your football, you know. So that's when I first started 346 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: playing the organized football and from that point, well, I 347 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: can't stay from that point because before then it was 348 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: street ball. It was just you're not with the friends 349 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I always know I had some talent, 350 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: but once I got into the organized football, that's when 351 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: I was really able to open my eyes and realize that, hey, 352 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, I can really do something if I continue 353 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: to work and continue to grind, you know, with the sport. 354 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: But Palestine, it was, it was it was a small town. 355 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: Everyone knows everyone there, right. You know. I had on 356 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: my dad's side, I have four uncles and uh four aunts, 357 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: and then on my mom's side it's five five uncles 358 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: and four unts as well. So you can just imagine 359 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: all my family members. Right. So just growing up in 360 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: that type of environment, you know, always having you know, 361 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: someone around you, someone disciplining you, putting you, you know, 362 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: leaning you in the right direction, get given advice and 363 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think that is what it helped 364 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: shape me and moved me into you know, the man 365 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: that I that I am today. So yeah, but then 366 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: when they come back to the football expect of it. 367 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: You know, at a at a young age, playing little 368 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: league football, that's when I realized and understood that, Hey, 369 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I loved past college and everything else, I was like, 370 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play in the NFL. You come from good pedigree. 371 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Your mom was three times UH state track champion, track champ. 372 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: You got to the the scholarship at Universeity of Houston. Your 373 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: dad was a shooting guard at Idaho State who had 374 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: his career cut short by being accidentally shot in the 375 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: leg by his brother. So your mom ran track, your 376 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: dad played basketball. You love football. What were the sports 377 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: that you played growing up? Probably basketball, track and field football, 378 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: which was your favorite growing up? Football and track was 379 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: was right there next to next right basketball. I'm not 380 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna lie like I was. I was a dee a player. 381 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: You know you have you can you come in and 382 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: get the five fives to get up out of there. Hey, 383 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some good defense, couple of blocks, 384 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you I'm gonna get your ten 385 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: points just off a hustle. Okay, some rebounds, put it 386 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: back up or whatnot. But yeah, my basketball game was terrible. 387 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: If I gotta steal, I'm dribbling straight right here. There 388 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: was there was my love. There's also some tragedy that 389 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: happened in your life early on. Your older brother got 390 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: hit by drunk driver when you were seven, and night 391 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: before the come back, and your half brother was shot 392 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: and killed. Talk to me about the impact that those events, 393 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: tragic events had on your life. And I was starting 394 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: my my my older brother who I passed when I 395 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: was seven. You know, that situation was really, really tough, 396 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, And it's not something that I've never sat 397 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: down and talked. Like my wife tell me all the time, 398 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: I think you need to talk, you know, to a 399 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: counselor or something, just to kind of let that, let 400 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: it go, let it out right. But I feel like 401 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: it helped. It matured me at an early age because 402 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: at that time it was just me and my mom 403 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: and my brother and we were living in Dallas, and 404 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: when it happened, we end up moving back to Palestine, 405 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't you know, I missed a lot of 406 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: school during that time because I was there. You know, 407 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: it was really tough for us. You know, we were 408 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: living at my grandmother's house and my mom no lies, 409 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: She cried for a year for it seemed like for 410 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: a year straight. Every night I would be in the 411 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: other room and hear a cry, and you know, I 412 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: would go on there and just a mom is gonna 413 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: be okay. You know. So I feel like it made me. 414 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: It made me become mature at a younger age before 415 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: she would become an adult problem. Before you should have, 416 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: before I should have, you know. So I'm finding myself 417 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: to take care of taking care of my mom and 418 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: being strong for her. And I never forget. I remember 419 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: telling myself cause my brother, he was way more talented 420 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: than I was, you know, And I remember telling myself 421 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: at that age that, you know what, I'm gonna use 422 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: this as motivation something to continue to drive me because 423 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: I know my brother, you know, I know this is 424 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: what he would have wanted for me. You know, I 425 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: know he you know, we used to talk about you know, 426 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: he was like extremely fast. I was ten three, you know, 427 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: I was twenty eight. I couldn't touch him. So, you know, 428 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: I remember the things we used to talk talk about 429 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: at the young age and used to race and stuff 430 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: like that. So the things that I'm gonna do, I'm 431 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna do it for him, right, So fast forward to 432 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: the combine. It was I never forget, man, It's it 433 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: was crazy. I woke up. It was like two o'clock 434 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: in the morning, and I just woke up and I 435 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: was sweating, and it was just like one of those 436 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: that feeling like some sim ain't right, you know. So 437 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: I look at my phone and I see a couple 438 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: area calls from Palacine that had called no message. Yeah, 439 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: misscalled no messages. And I didn't really think too much 440 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: about it and put the phone down. I had a 441 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: big day the next day and closed my eyes and 442 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: go to sleep. I wake up now I see the testaments, 443 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: the tech messages and the calls, and that when I 444 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: found out my brother was shot in third ward, shot 445 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: in the back, got robbed, and it was just, you know, 446 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: my heart just sunk. You know. It was a tough 447 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: situation for me because I had to go out and 448 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: compete that day. But I had remember talking to him 449 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: a couple of days prior and he was just so 450 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: wid He was like my number one fan. He was 451 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: so wired up about me being down to combine, and oh, 452 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna do this, brother, I know you're 453 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna do Dad. Show them you know who the best 454 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: running back in the drafts. This had another song it 455 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: I had to just kind of suck it up, you know, 456 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, and try to focus on what I was 457 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish that day. And and then you know, 458 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: I think I came out and did a decent job 459 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: with that. But that was probably one of the toughest 460 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: situations I had to deal with, because you're the combat 461 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: of the job interview. This is the big if you 462 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: play if you play football, this is the biggest job 463 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: interview you're ever gonna have, because you got hundreds of eyes, 464 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: not just physical eyes, but electronic eyes, modernitoring your every move, 465 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: and you're dealing with this. And I'm not so sure 466 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: did any of that anybody know that this has transpired, 467 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: that this was going on in your mind, because I don't, 468 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't. You probably didn't tell anybody. No, I didn't 469 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: say anything to anyone, you know, I just kind of 470 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: you didn't want that you do, because you felt if 471 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: you had told him, they if you don't run a 472 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: good time, they're gonna use that against you. Say he 473 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: used that as as an excuse, exactly. I don't even 474 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: know that, you know, he was happy that that I 475 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: was here. I know that he would want me to 476 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: go out and continue to you know, Chase my dream. 477 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: So I woke up that morning and after finding out, 478 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm 479 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: gonna lock in and you know I'll be able to 480 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: deal with this a little later once I'm done. How 481 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: how do you get the nickname? All day? You got 482 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: a little taste of earlier. My little man came in here. 483 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: I told him like three times, do not come in here. 484 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: The s full of energy. You know, I was just 485 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: electric as a youngster. You know. They would give me 486 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: melitonin and all that, and I bite through all that, 487 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: scratched all and I'm experiencing it now with my with 488 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: my little man. But that's how I got it, got 489 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: the name. I was just the fuller energy, always going, 490 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: Like the energy. I was a going, always going boy. 491 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Get outside and play. Yeah, and you would think that 492 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: would work, But like I'll be saying it to him, 493 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: they go outside, they'll play my oldest this in the house, 494 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's nine, and they'll get out here and 495 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: they'll run for hours. Accelent. The youngest one, he'll come 496 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: in here to take a shower and he'll he'll be 497 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: ten o'clock, eleven o'clock. Bedtime is eight. You hear him 498 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: coming down the stairs, like, what are you doing? Man? 499 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Two millions tolling down? He's just 500 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: fighting through it. I'm looking at you what you were 501 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: able to complish? You only played two years. If I'm 502 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: not mistake, you don't play two years of high school football, right, 503 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: Your junior and senior year wasn't because you weren't good 504 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: enough to make the team or what transpired that you 505 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: only got to play two years? Because I'm looking at 506 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: your numbers. Your junior year two thousand and fifty one yards, 507 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: twenty two touchdowns, your senior year a little less than 508 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: three thousand over eleven yards and carry thirty two touchdowns 509 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: the final game three fifty six touchdowns, and you're signing 510 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: autograph for the opposing players. Yeah, you know, my dad 511 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: got incarcerated going into my seventh grade year. Uh huh, 512 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: And this was I don't know how we had two 513 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why we have to schools and palestines. 514 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: But I was going to Palestine High School and across 515 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: town school was Westwood High School. That's actually school my 516 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: mom too, So I transferred after my seventh grade year 517 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: and went to Westwood right. Well, my Firstmoman year, I 518 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: actually was on varsity. There was a three D school, 519 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: a smaller school, and I toured my LCLA the first game. 520 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: So I was out that that that that year and 521 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: came back ran track, made the state and then I 522 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: end up going back to Palestine. Like this football season, 523 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: I already started my sophomore year, so I played a 524 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: little bit, played a little bit of a JV. The 525 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: coach there, he was from West Orange Start. I never forget, 526 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: and it was clear that I was the most talented player, 527 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, even like we would grow up against the seniors, 528 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean the varsity defense, and we would run through 529 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: those guys. But he never he he didn't, he didn't. 530 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: He didn't move me up. So my junior year, his 531 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, which his name was Jeff Hurroll. He ended 532 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: up becoming a head coach. And I had kind of 533 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: told myself that, you know what, I'm just gonna focus 534 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: on track. I'm not gonna really you know, I'm not 535 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: gonna really get into football. So I didn't even start 536 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: a training camp my junior year until my dad called me. 537 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: I never forget. My stepdad woke me up. It was 538 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: like eight o'clock. He was like, Hey, your dad's on 539 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: the phone, and I'm like, what's up, Dad, what's going on? 540 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: You're like, boy, what are you doing? I made the 541 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: house relaxing. He was like, I was sleeping and he 542 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: was like, shouldn't you be in two days? I like, Dad, 543 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I'm trying to play this year. 544 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna focus on track, and you know, 545 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: I think I'm want to go in that direction. He 546 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: was like, boy, I'm gonna call those coaches tomorrow and 547 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: if they tell me you didn't come up there to 548 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: day when you come see me, We're gonna were gonna 549 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: have issue. We're gonna really have a problem. It's like 550 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: all right, man. So I end up getting up and going, 551 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, going up there and they told me how 552 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: you can come back tomorrow, and then from that part, 553 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: from that moment, things just kind of kind of kind 554 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: of took off for me. Ironically, the first game of 555 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: that junior year, we played Huntsville and the same coach 556 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: I think his name was some Thummins that came from 557 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that left Palatine, that came from West Orange Start. He 558 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: was a head coach at Huntsville. Oh, we went down there. 559 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I had three hundred and five yards like five touchdowns, 560 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: killed their defense, you know what I'm saying. So like 561 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: it was a little you know, a little revenge on 562 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: my part as well, but that's kind of like what 563 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: put me on the map. Then it's just kind of 564 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: took off from that moment. So I'm looking at your 565 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: your high school time. You say you ran ten three 566 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: one hundred meters, you ran twenty point eight to two 567 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: hundred meters, you were forty seven six four hundred meters. 568 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: So of those, what do you think your best event 569 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: is was? And do you believe at your APEX you 570 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: could out run Tyreek? Tyreek? Yeah, I get run for 571 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: his money. Now, Like if I really would have, you know, 572 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: focused on track like I wanted to because I wanted 573 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: to run in Oklahoma too, But I feel like I 574 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: definitely could have could have. You got to being you 575 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: way too much. I was like I was like two 576 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: hundred and five in high school though, running that kind 577 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: of time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah wow yeah. And my 578 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: favorite round was the two hundred, and I never really 579 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: wanted to run in four hundred. But like now that 580 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm older, when once I got older, I'm like, the 581 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: four hundred would have been my race because just my mindset, 582 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: and you know that's my favorite race, yea, all the races, 583 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: I like the four hundred meters and the four by four, 584 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: that's my race. Yeah, yeah, yep at four hundred. Every 585 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that believe of all 586 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: the guys that played in the NFL before you and 587 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: after you, they believed there were two people that could 588 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: have come straight from high school and going to the NFL, 589 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: yourself and Randy Boss. Do you believe that you could 590 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: have played in the NFL after your senior year in 591 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: high school? I do? I do? I do. I never 592 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: get going to a Cowboys game, excuse me my senior 593 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: year and once photographers invited me down and end up 594 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: going to the Cowboys game and going to the locker 595 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: room and all that after the game, and I'm just 596 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking at those guys, the running back, I'm just like, 597 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: he's not really you know, I look a little bit. 598 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: I know I'm bashioned in him because I just got 599 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: the rent of the ten two six to state, right, 600 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like okay, And then you know, once I 601 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: got to college, that was kind of like confirmation for 602 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: me after that freshman year, right, you know what I 603 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: was able to accomplish. And you see a guy like 604 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Cil Benson who ended up going like five that year, 605 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: that could have been me, you know, one year out 606 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: of one year out of out of high school. But 607 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I could have came straight out 608 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: of high school and play. You had offered all the 609 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: other the country USC Texas, Texas and them UCLA Arkansas 610 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: in Miami and Florida. What made you choose to leave 611 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: your home state and go to Oklahoma? And how many 612 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: people were upset that you chose to go to the 613 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: across the river as a closed to state in state. Yeah, 614 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: it was a lot of people that I was like 615 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: some articles in the newspaper. I was like, God, can 616 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: they can they print this print this talk about a 617 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: high school student. But the work ethic that I've seen 618 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: when I went on my business to Oklahoma, that was 619 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: something that pushed me to go there because I really 620 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: had appreciation for how they developed their players right and 621 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: like for me, I grew up a longhorn. I remember 622 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: remember being in eighth grade because my uncle played his 623 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: name of Chris Smith. He played tight end for Texas 624 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: when Ricky Williams was there homes Apple White. I remember 625 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: being there after a spring game, looking at the stadium 626 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: where I was empty, like I'll be back, I'll be 627 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: back here one day, right, But experiencing that Red River shootout, 628 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: I see a lot of guys that are from Texas 629 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: that end up going to the University of Oklahoma, and 630 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, Like what's what what's the difference, 631 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: Like what separates the two the work ethic. I feel 632 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: like the University of Texas had more talent where I 633 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: didn't feel like that they developed their players, and that's 634 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: why Oklahoma was tapping that but every every year, you know, 635 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: So that was really the main reason. And then also 636 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: I went down and when I was talking to Matt Brown, 637 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: I came to him and this is the approach I 638 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: have every coach that I sat down with. I was like, Hey, 639 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: the only thing I asked is when you guys present 640 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: me with an opportunity to compete, compete for the starting job. 641 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, I got Pete Curl, I got you know, 642 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, I got you know, Bob Steps telling me, yeah, 643 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: if you you come in, you earn a position. It's yours. 644 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: We don't care if you're a rookie or not. Texas 645 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: they were like, well, Sage Benson decided to come back 646 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: for his senior year, you know, so we're gonna show you. 647 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna show some loyalty to him because he was 648 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: projected to be a top five pick, and we're gonna 649 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: let him finish it off. And you know, after that, 650 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: of course, we'll let you compete for it. So another word, 651 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: they said, no, we're not gonna let you compete for 652 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: the starting job. You wait your turn. And you said, okay, Deuce, 653 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to ou yep. I didn't tell him that either, 654 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like it, but in my mind had already 655 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: already already yep. So from that point it came down 656 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma and USC. Like it was really really a 657 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: tough decision for me because I went out to visit 658 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: it could be in and me. He left Colorado because 659 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: he would recruit me and Colorado even with UCLA Holly 660 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: eb Man. So once I got out there, I was like, man, 661 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: la nice, but if I come here, I need to 662 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: go to the best school, you know, right. So that's 663 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: how USC came in the picture and even with Reggie 664 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: Bush and Linda White, Herschel, Dennis, the guys, they had 665 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: their people's like peoples down there in my basketball genial 666 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: Palestine shooting like yeah, you come down, you can compete. 667 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: You're on a spot, we're gonna play you, you know. 668 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: So it came down to just being closer to the family. Oklahoma. 669 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: It was like a far other job from my hometown, right, 670 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: and the development other players and stuff to play the 671 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: big role. Why do you believe you were able to 672 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: have such an immediate impact? You said an nca freshman 673 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: record your ramp over nineteen hundred yards in two thousand 674 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: and four. You said, eleven one hundred yard games by 675 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: a freshman, and you're an unanimous All American. Do you believe? 676 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: Two part question, Do you believe that you should have 677 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: won the Heisman that year? And looking back at it, 678 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: do you you sought out some games that you said, 679 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: you know what, I should have got that two grade. 680 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: I should have got two bands, because that's gonna be 681 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: something that two thousand yards of are freshman. Somebody might 682 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: come get two thousand after that, but I would have 683 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: been the first to do it. Yeah, yeah, definitely that 684 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: crossed my mom before. I'm like, now, I was so close. 685 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: It easily got you know, two thousand things, but its 686 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: played out a little different for me. But I was 687 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: so young then, you know, I was just having fun 688 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: and trying to win championships, you know, so that was 689 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: like the most important thing for me. But for the 690 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: high when they comes to the Heisman Trophy, I definitely 691 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: feel like I should have been the first freshman to 692 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: ever win. You know. I feel like they robbed me. 693 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: You know, I had the most votes by a freshman 694 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: at that point ever finished in second place, and it 695 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: was just for me. It kind of helped me out. 696 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: That situation helped me a lot too when it came to, 697 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, how people perceive you or how people view 698 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: you in your talent, because they told me a lot. 699 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, I'm up for the Hisman Trophy 700 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: me Jason white Lyndale, I mean, Rigid Bush and Matt 701 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: Linner and Alice Smith. So I'm like, I'm up. I 702 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: finished second and then I don't win the Dope Walker Award, 703 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: so I'm discratching my head. I'm like, how do you 704 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: said You're Benson winning? You know? So I'm like I 705 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: felt like I got robbed for the Heisman and then 706 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: not only dot Walker robbed a dot Walker too. I 707 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't care about these awards, man, 708 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna focus on get into 709 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: the NFL and then I'll you know, I'll go from there. 710 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: But definitely got robbed. You play that team in the 711 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: National Championship game and people were expecting the game to 712 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: be close that would really never close. What transpired? Why 713 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: why were you Why were you guys so outplayed, so 714 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: thoroughly defeated in that game. I think USC came in 715 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: with a different mindset than us, you know, me being 716 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: there in present during the week, it was a lot 717 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: of guys that they weren't locked in. You know, we 718 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: were down in Miami. Guys were you know, breaking curfew. 719 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: Now a lot of guys but you know, just things 720 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: like that that you shouldn't have you and that type 721 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: of environment and for a National Championship, you know, so 722 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: guys are written curfew. You know, I've seen guys meet 723 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: with agents and things like that. And you know, we 724 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: started off good, we scored, we scored first, and UH 725 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: end up getting the ball back and stopping them. And 726 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: I think it was a punt, That's what it was. 727 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: They punned the balls to us, and a punned dropped 728 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: the ball, well, it bounced, and it bounced like towards 729 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: the teen fifteen year outline, and he tried to pick 730 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: it up, and they hit him and got the ball 731 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: and end up scoring maybe like a play later. And 732 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: then we came back the next drive and I don't 733 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: know what Jason White was thinking. He just threw the 734 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: ball up in the air and I don't know what 735 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: he was thinking, and they end up picking it and 736 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: it was just like the momentum just changed right and 737 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: it just went downhill. That was the first time I 738 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: had ever been a part of a feeling like gods 739 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: gave up. Like I actually felt like guys gave up 740 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: during that game, your final game. A lot of people 741 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: remember the Fiesta Bowl, the statue of Liberty with Boys 742 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: and State. Did you know going until that game? When 743 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: did you know that I'm out of here, I'm declaring 744 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: for the draft. Did you know going until the game? 745 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: Or it was after the game, after you lost it 746 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: you said, okay, I'm out. I knew before the game. 747 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: I knew before the game because I heard had hurt 748 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: broke my collarbone earlier that year, and I had missed 749 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, and I came back and 750 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: played in that game that was my first came back 751 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: in like weeks, and so during that time, I had 752 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: a lot of time to just reflect on the past 753 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: couple of years and how things had went. And I 754 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, that Columbone could have easily 755 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: been at ECL could have easily been something else that 756 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: you know. Now they're like, Okay, he for sure has 757 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: to come back and has to prove itself. So it 758 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: could have went up to a lot of different ways. 759 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: And I remember talking to my running back coach kl Gundy, 760 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, coach, what's your thought? What do 761 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: you think you think I should? You think I should 762 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: come back for my senior year or go ahead and go? 763 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: He was like, you gotta go. You know, he said, 764 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: as much as I would love for you to come 765 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: back and play, you know, I wouldn't be you know, 766 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: being one hundred with you and being real with you 767 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: if I told you to come back for your senior year, 768 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: you know. So I was like, okay, you know. So 769 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: that was something that kind of helped me make that decision. 770 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: As well, and and go ahead and enter too, and 771 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: enter into the NFL. So here's a funny story a 772 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about. Okay. So I came 773 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: back for that for the Fiesta Bowl, the second series. 774 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: I remember getting I remember taking a hit and I'm 775 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: just like, you know, my first time playing since the 776 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: color bone, right, I didn't really I didn't really think 777 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: too much of it. Plays the rest of the game. 778 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: Later on at night, my neck like literally swallowed up, 779 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: like all this was swollen, right, and it ended up 780 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, subside, and it went down by the next day. 781 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: So I didn't I didn't think much about it at all. 782 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't paying for anything. So I get down to 783 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: Arizona the API. I was training there. So I'm probably 784 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: like a month and a half into training, doing bench 785 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: press and all that, and one day I was like this, 786 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: this color bone. This feels weird, you know, it just 787 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: not getting my full range of motion. So I just 788 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: went to see a doctor to just get it checked out. 789 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: I had rebroke it. Wow, as I had rebroke my 790 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: collar bone. So when I was in at the combine 791 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: and all that, my columbne was still broke. It was 792 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: still healing going through that process, and that was like 793 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: one of the red flags that I had because they 794 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: knew that it was still cracked. Wow at that time. Yeah, 795 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking back at your draft and the draft is 796 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 1: known for who went number one because he didn't paying 797 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: out JaMarcus Russell. But if you look at who went 798 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: number two, Calvin Johnson is going to the Hall of Fame, 799 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is gonna go to the Hall of Fame. 800 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: You were the seventh pick in the draft. You're going 801 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Durrell Reevers is gonna go 802 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. You got Mars. Shawn Lynch 803 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: was in that draft. Patrick Winners was in that draft. 804 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: You guys had some players in that draft. Yeah, we 805 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: were deep. I mean people look at you know, JaMarcus 806 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: didn't pay paying out games, Adams didn't paying out. Leave 807 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: By Brown was okay, Lron Landry, No, he didn't. He 808 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,919 Speaker 1: didn't do too much. Greg Olsen had a great career. 809 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: But you guys, you guys are gonna have four or 810 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: five Hall of famers in that draft class. Yeah. Yeah, 811 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: that's something about thinking about sometimes, like man, you know what, 812 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: we can compete with a lot of different draft classes, 813 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, we had some guys that put in some 814 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: work and we're really like, you know, Calvin Johnson, I 815 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: can't say he's the best of all time, you know, 816 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: because you got master he up there though, you know. 817 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: So we had guys like that. Even Patrick Willis Patricks 818 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: early we appear talking, we appere comparing him to Ray Lewis. 819 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas went to a bunch of Pro Bowls, all 820 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: Pro a bunch of times. Let's talk about your rookie season. 821 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: Your rookie year, you set an NFL record with the 822 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: most yards in a single game two ninety six. Also 823 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: you had two hundred Russian game that season. Talk to 824 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: us about your rookie year. What what was your expectations 825 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: going into it? And in that game did you know 826 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: that game was gonna be special? Because sometimes you get 827 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: a feeling like, man, you get a get a big run, 828 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: you get a nice care You're like, this might build good, 829 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: this might build, this might be the day here. So 830 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: did you know that game was gonna be bug game? 831 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: I didn't. I can't say I did. I didn't, but 832 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: I went into that season and I was just like, 833 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: you know what I had, so much confidence in myself 834 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: because of the work I had put in and I 835 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: was just hungry just to I'm here now, finally, right. 836 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: So I had the confidence, but that game particular, I didn't. 837 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: It felt different, especially that first half because the Office 838 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: A Line they were doing a great job. I found 839 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: myself being too fast in some situations which end up, 840 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, hurting the play right. And I remember talking 841 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: to the Office A Line and telling them this guy 842 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: like hutch Man, listen, you guys, just keep doing what 843 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: you're doing, like it's gonna hit, you know, like I 844 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: should have been more patient to let this play. It 845 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: was outside zone play, and he could have took it 846 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 1: fifty and let up. Developed I said, but you guys, 847 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. We're gonna get on track. 848 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: And went into halftime. I think we had like forty 849 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: some yards rushing as an offense. And then came out 850 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: the second half and it was just like, I don't know, 851 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: it felt like an out of body experience, you know, 852 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: and it's like we were just so I was so 853 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: locked in and everything was just working out. It's like 854 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: everything just kind of fell online and the big runs 855 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: just started ripping, whipping, and before I before I knew it. Here, 856 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: here we are in the fourth quarter. I got two 857 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six yards, And do you wish you 858 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: had to went back in and got one more kid 859 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: and got three bills? Wanted out? Because that's what I 860 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: tell people. I say, you don't understand. I mean at 861 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: the time, you're like nah, but then you look back 862 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: at it and then somebody like somebody gets two ninety 863 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: seven or somebody gets two ninety eight, three hundred, that's 864 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: the bitchmark, because you know somebody's gonna get maybe somebody's 865 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna get it. But to say, who's the first guy 866 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: to ever rushed for three hundred yards in the NFL game? Yeah, 867 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: So why do you think you were able to have 868 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: so much success you're rookie season. I think just the 869 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: guys that that was surrounding me, and I feel like 870 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: the coach has really put me in a great position, 871 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: and then just just me and my mindset. You know, 872 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to go out there and improve to the organization, 873 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: my teammates that you know, I'm putting my best forward, 874 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: my best foot forward to help us win a championship. 875 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: Chased the championship two thousand and nine was as close 876 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: as UK to winning the getting to the Through Bowl 877 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: and possibly competing for that. You guys signed Brett Farve. 878 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: What was it like playing with five? And did you 879 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: think that was going to be the season that was 880 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna get Adrian Peterson to a Super Bowl and possibly 881 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: win the championship? Yeah? I thought that was gonna be 882 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: the season, especially once he stepped into that building and 883 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: we got out there for the first practice and seeing 884 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: how he was able to operate our offense, it was like, Okay, 885 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty much what we were missing because our defense 886 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: was stellar, you know, Big Pat Williams. You had you know, 887 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: the Hendra Henderson, Chad Greenway, the line by uh Antoine 888 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: Winfield Senior. Like we we were stacked sh uh safety Sharper, 889 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, like we was good on defense. Offensively, we 890 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of pieces too, and we we just 891 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: needed a quarterback. So ar came in there and he's 892 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: just like being that leader and being you know, the 893 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: veteran that he was, he was able just to transform 894 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: our offense until a machine where we were working and 895 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: everything was clicking on all senators and we were just 896 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: able to do some incredible things offensively and with that 897 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: type of defense. It was like, Okay, there's no reason 898 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: we shouldn't, you know, make it to the MC Championship 899 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: game and and and win a super Bowl. You know. So, 900 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: but this had an opportunity to play with Brett Man. 901 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: It really taught me a lot. You know, his locker 902 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: was right next to mine, so I was able just 903 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: to see how he killed itself, you know, how he was. 904 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: He would just were just like one of other guys. 905 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: You know, it was cool, crack of jokes, you know, 906 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: missed with guys, and you know, it just had a 907 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: great personality. And that's kind of what I assume from 908 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: watching the interviews and just watching them interact stuff. And 909 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: it was just a blessing to be able to play 910 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: with them those two years and just have that have 911 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: that experience with him. You played the NFC Championship game 912 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: in New in New Orleans and it would later become 913 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: known as the Bounty Gate. Did you think they were 914 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: playing dirty? Did you suspect anything was going on? Or 915 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: you thought it was just hard nosed, clean football. They 916 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: just they were just Hey, everybody wants to get to 917 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: the ultimate goal, reach the Super Bowl, and this is 918 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: what it's gonna take they're in our way. Let's try 919 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: to just play hard, tough football, snap the whistle and 920 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: leaving it back, or did you like, hold on man, 921 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: these these is coming a little late, they coming a 922 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: little low. Yeah, I thought I thought it was these 923 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: guys out there playing ball, right. I felt like that 924 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: was like one of two dirty hit song on bread 925 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: that was questionable, you know, as far as it was late. 926 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: But outside of that shoot, we were laying at wood. 927 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: They were laying in wood as well, and I just 928 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: felt like it was a tough, hard folk game. Twenty eleven, 929 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: day before Christmas, played in Washington. Carried just like you 930 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 1: carried the ball a thousand times in the NFL before 931 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: they had the ball out to you. Did you know 932 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: when you got hit that something was wrong? When? Or 933 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: when did you realize something was wrong? Immediately? Immediately? As 934 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: soon as I got hit, I knew. I didn't know 935 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: exactly what it was, but I knew that I was 936 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: done for sure, because you had never had had you 937 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: ever had knee issues before? No, not like that. I 938 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: had to LCL in high school, okay before that, right, 939 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: So you tore your ACL and your MCL, which is 940 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: the day before Christmas, the season's gonna start back up. 941 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: You got OTA's gonna probably start up in April. You 942 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: got many camps that's gonna start in May, June, and 943 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: you got training camp's gonna start late July. Why were 944 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: you so determined I'll be back in eight months? Why 945 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: were you so determined? Because that's normally guys come back, 946 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: but they're not the same. You came back better. And 947 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: now the goal standard of anybody coming back from ACL 948 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: is Adrian Peterson. I think the one thing that really 949 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: pushed me the most is just like all the negatives talk, right, 950 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: that that really motivated me a lot too, because a 951 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: lot of people were saying, you know, he's not gonna 952 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: ever be the same, you know, should he go ahead 953 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: and retire this, that and nothing? Wait, you know this 954 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: is nothing but an obstacle of that that's in my 955 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: way that I have to overcome, you know, I have 956 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: to get through. I have to grind through it, you know. 957 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: So that was my That was my whole approach, And 958 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: it started that day, like when I got to that 959 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: locker room. My dad was at the game, and I 960 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: remember coming to the locker coming down there and I 961 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: was talking to him I was like, you know what, 962 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. You know now 963 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: it's the moment that I have to accept it for 964 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: what it is and what are you gonna do about it? 965 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: So did they tell you on the field? Did they 966 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: get you to the sideline before they broke the news 967 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: and said, AP, you ad you told your ac L? Yeah, 968 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: they took me to the side line. You know when 969 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: they when they did the test on the on the field, 970 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew then. I was like, okay, because 971 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 1: it was it was it was too it was moving 972 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: too way too much, you know. And I can see 973 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: the look on their face too. So they got him 974 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: into the sideline and just confirmed it was like yeah 975 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: a c L mc L. And I remember telling my dad, 976 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I started to come back 977 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be better than I was before that 978 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: the same day but I mean to say that, and 979 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, I'm gonna be Oh, I'm gonna be there. 980 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be that. But they I don't know 981 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: if you realize what you did. You come back at 982 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 1: eight months, you go three hundred and forty eight carries 983 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: two thousand, ninety seven yards, which is the second most 984 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: in the season, you win Offensive Player of the Year 985 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: m VP. You needed two oh nine, You needed two 986 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: oh eight the final game to get the record. You 987 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: get what you nine yards short. I know you play 988 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: that scenario in your head. That probably keeps you up 989 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: at night as much as anything, because not only do 990 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: I have the most rushing yards in the season, I'm 991 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: the all time. So which keeps you up more not 992 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: getting that record or possibly not getting image record because 993 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: I know both a way on your mind, yeah they do, 994 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: do they do? The one thing way in my mind 995 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: the most is is not getting air Dickinson's Yeah, I 996 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: thought so so because everything that I had to go 997 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: through to get to that moment, right to be just 998 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: eight yards away from it, you know record that stood 999 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: so long? Yeah right, I was right there after ACL 1000 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: and were able to able to get it. And the 1001 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: thing is two Texas boys ed from Seeley, Texas, You're 1002 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: from Palestine, and here it is. Did you did you 1003 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: think you had an outside chap because two hundred and 1004 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: eight yards in the final game, knowing that you need 1005 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 1: to win that game. So in Green Bay like, nah, 1006 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: We're not gonna let him win this game because if 1007 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: you don't win, you don't make the playoffs. So you 1008 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: had to win that game. Yep, yep, yep. I remember 1009 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: coming into that game and I was thinking, you know what, 1010 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: let me not worry about the record. Let me take 1011 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: this approach. If it happens, it's meant, it's meant to happen. 1012 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, then it's not. Because I had a 1013 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks prior we played the Texans, you know, 1014 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 1: came here and played and I you know, I was focusing. 1015 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I need to get 1016 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: by one hundred and seventy five two hundred against these 1017 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: to getting myself closer. Thinking I was pressing. I ended 1018 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 1: up like forty some yards if that. And after that game, 1019 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: I told myself, you know what, I'm gonna go out 1020 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: there and continuity to what I've been doing. I'm just 1021 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: gonna play and let the Chips follow their mate. So 1022 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: I actually went to that last game with that mindset. 1023 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 1: You know, we need to win this game to make 1024 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and if the record is meant to be broke, 1025 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: then then I break it. That's why I was so 1026 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: surprised when I did the interview. She was like, so, 1027 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: how you feel about being eightyar shark, I was like 1028 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 1: eight yards short, but and she like I was that close. 1029 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh so so so did you? So 1030 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: you didn't know you were that close? So they didn't 1031 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: keep because normally in a situation like that eighty, they 1032 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: keep you a breath like, man, you need fifty, man, 1033 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: you need seventy five. Normally that's how they So no 1034 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: one was telling you how close you were actually to 1035 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: the because it's hard for me to see that they 1036 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: would throw any passes. They gonna keep beeing you the ball. Yeah, 1037 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: no one. No one said anything to me. And but 1038 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of approach I have, is like I 1039 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: don't want know about saying nothing. I'm justna go out 1040 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: there and play. You know. But had I known, if you, 1041 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: if you had known, would you have been been willing 1042 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: to sneak back in the game and try to get 1043 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: those eight? Oh yeah, definitely I was right that time off, 1044 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 1: that time out for me. Man, you get another run. 1045 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: Looking at your career, fourteen thousand, eight hundred twenty yards, Uh, 1046 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: that's fifth and most one hundred and eighteen rushing touchdowns, 1047 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 1: that's fourth. You have an eight games fan and that's 1048 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: that in that season in twenty twelve, thirteen hundred and 1049 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: twenty two yards with your most of an eight game, 1050 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: you have the most sixty yard TV runs thirteen, tie 1051 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 1: for the most fifty yard runs in a single season, seven, 1052 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 1: tie with the most two other games over career with OJU, 1053 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: yourself and oj Dare Henry is coming for that one. 1054 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: I think in a three time rushing champel of all 1055 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: the things that you've accomplished thus far, what record are 1056 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 1: you most proud of? M Man. That's a good one. 1057 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: I would say this climbing at all time leaving Russia lists, 1058 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, because there's a lot of guys on that 1059 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 1: list that I've passed that inspired me to, you know, 1060 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: to continue to play the game at a at a 1061 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: high level, you know, so to be in a position 1062 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: to pass guys like you know, Terrell dave Is, you 1063 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: know lt you know O J Jim Brown Brown, you know, 1064 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: it's just like Drome Bettis is just like yeah, you know, 1065 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: so that right there means the Muslim THO for that reason, 1066 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: and you might be if there, I don't know, if 1067 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: there's gonna be very many guys that's gonna ever win 1068 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: a running back to ever win that award again the 1069 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: m v P. It's a quarterback award. I ap, yeah, 1070 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean the guys throwing for forty and fifty touch down. 1071 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: They're getting thirty five hundred and fifty and fifty and 1072 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: five five yards as somebody goes in today's game, I 1073 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: mean kind of running back. With the way teams throwing 1074 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: the football, can someone actually go get two thousand? Maybe 1075 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, but that's what yeah? Yeah, So I like 1076 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: to do this a lot. Give me your Mount Rushmore 1077 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: running back. You only get to put four on Mount 1078 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: Rushmore of all the great running backs. I need to 1079 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: know who's on ap Mount Rushmore. M Okay, gotta go 1080 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: with Jim Brown. Okay, gotta go with Jim Brown, Sweetness, 1081 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: Walter Payton, Barry Sounders, three three. When it's tough, though, 1082 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: somebody go get left out. I don't know, Image, I 1083 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna make it. Eb I don't 1084 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna make it. L t oh Man. 1085 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Texas boys on this thing. Ain't 1086 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: oh lt from Texas, Earl from Texas, e Ed from Texas. Yea. 1087 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: I want to put Immi Smith up there. I got 1088 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: I have to. I have to give him to respect 1089 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: where he's number one, you know, no matter how it 1090 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: was done, Like, he's what you mean I would do. Oh, 1091 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about an offensive line that he had. They 1092 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: were good, they were really really good. Yeah. Just imagine 1093 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: Barrys Sandon had an office long like that. No, I 1094 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: don't know, you know what, sometimes I think, I think, 1095 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if we had been able to see 1096 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: the Barry that we saw, because the Barry that we 1097 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: saw had to have a terrible offensive line, because he 1098 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: needed to make seventeen people miss in order for you 1099 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,479 Speaker 1: to see all that. So just imagine Barry just running 1100 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: straight ahead. He's not Barry listens like that. I gotta 1101 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: see that perspective. Who you give me your top running 1102 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: back today? Who? Who does Adrian Peterson if there? If 1103 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: he's at home, he's watched Monday night, he's watching Thursday night, 1104 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: or he's playing that playing them in the game. He's 1105 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: standing up watching, or he's looking at the jumbo trod deck. 1106 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: Harry is one of those guys and physical, he plays 1107 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: the game. Ta Kwan Brockley. Okay, he's a guy that 1108 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: I like. I feel like he has some great potential. 1109 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook I was a guy that I like as 1110 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: well for his size. He's physical, great speed, great vision. Yeah, 1111 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: I think that's about it that I'll just you know, 1112 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: be sitting there. I'll stand up and be like, okay, 1113 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: let me see and let me see what he what 1114 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: he what he got? Right? Who has the best steal 1115 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: farm real Adrian Peterson. I gotta give it to him 1116 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: right now. I feel like I got step on, But 1117 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: some of the step On I've seen, it's like oho 1118 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: o cornerback so so so bad in our game, and 1119 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Josh Norman had him linked five ways. I think he 1120 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: got me right now. So if if I can say, okay, 1121 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: I want you to build the perfect running back, and 1122 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm gonna hear some of the traits 1123 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 1: that i want, and I'm gonna say the first guy 1124 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: that comes to your mind instincts mhm. I gotta say, 1125 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: I gotta. I'll say myself burst Davin Cook in lousiveness. 1126 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, who do man? You've been mad, but one 1127 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: guy gonna get that what buried? Okay, I'm thinking talking 1128 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: about like current like right now, no, no, I will 1129 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I want you to build I'm build. I want you 1130 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,959 Speaker 1: to build a perfect running back. And so we're gonna 1131 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: take Okay, okay, okay, okay, what about okay vision, vision, 1132 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I'll say sweetness, size, uh m hm, size it put 1133 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: all put all this in abody that like the drone 1134 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: bettis okay? What about power? Power, Eric Campbell, speed, Chris Johnson, 1135 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: durability man uh and the snid as you can play 1136 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen years. Ain't ever take no big here. Ain't 1137 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: nobody to getting no shadow. I can't nobody to say 1138 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I blew him it up. You said, you said in 1139 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: the past that you're the You're the Lebron and Jordan 1140 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. What what do you mean by that? Your dominant? 1141 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean your size, I mean because we never I mean, 1142 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: like you said, you believe that you could have gone 1143 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: straight from high school. That's saying something because the NFL. 1144 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: You know this, that it's a grown mass game. Yeah, 1145 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean this is the grown man. They say, you 1146 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: ain't playing for no books, you ain't playing for no training. 1147 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: Table men got wives, they got kids to feed, they 1148 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: got college tuition to pay down the road mortgages, so 1149 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: they're not then let see if you lose your spot. 1150 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: In college, you just go to the bench. You're still 1151 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: on the team. You lose you're spot. In the NFL, 1152 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: you're probably gone, somebody taking your job, they're taking food 1153 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: off your table. Yeah. So when when I made that, 1154 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: when I made that statement, it comes from the standpoint 1155 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: of like talent, right, the guy giving ability? Do you 1156 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: need you? The most talented running back ever, the most 1157 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: talented running back ever, when you combine everything size, speed, durability, athleticism, 1158 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I think I think, I think I'm right there with 1159 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: with with want to pay. You believe, you believe he's 1160 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: one of the mortality, the mortality. Yeah, but you can 1161 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: see if you didn't have the perfect I mean, he 1162 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a big I mean what was Sweeten is what 1163 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: five ten? Maybe two two h five? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1164 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: I would saying like, okay, well both Jackson definitely, you know, 1165 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: he was on a different level. When you look back 1166 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: at it, do you wish you had do you wish 1167 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: you had handled things differently? In Minnesota? Do you you cut? 1168 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, now that you look back at it, you 1169 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: probably should have stayed maybe not asked for a trade. 1170 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Do you think back like, man, you know what I 1171 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 1: should have stayed my buddy in Minnesota. I think about 1172 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: that sometimes. And the thing is, I never like the 1173 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: man at a trade or asked for a trade, you know. 1174 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I remember when that season ended, when I have my 1175 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: exit meeting, my exit meeting with those guys, and it 1176 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, so after towards the end of 1177 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: the conversation, they're like, so are you running? Is something 1178 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: that you want to come back? And I was like, yeah, 1179 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind finishing my career here, you know, And 1180 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of how I love it. 1181 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: And right they heard from them, I was in San 1182 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Antonio on vacation, and you know, they had signed the 1183 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Murray kid. Right, that's when I know it's okay, you know. 1184 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,959 Speaker 1: But I was okay with that, you know at that point, 1185 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's a couple of things that had transpired 1186 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: and that we're over over that now, you know. But 1187 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: it was some things that kind of rubbed me the 1188 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: wrong way. And so I was at the point where 1189 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, if this is 1190 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: the end of the road, then you know, I'm fine 1191 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 1: with that. When it's all said and done, would you 1192 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 1: like to sign a contract and retire Viking. Oh yeah, yeah, 1193 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 1: without doubt, without doubt. So looking back at your career, 1194 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: is there anything you would do differently or what were 1195 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: some if they If they are some of the things 1196 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: you would like to do differently, what would they be? 1197 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, as far as a football aspect, you see football, 1198 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: You know, I can look back on a couple of 1199 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: off seasons where you know, I didn't really put it 1200 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: into work like I should have, and I was able 1201 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: to see, like a lot of people probably don't realize, 1202 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: but I was able to see how it affected me 1203 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: during the season. You know, So I would definitely change that. 1204 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Taking advantage of that, you know, being fourteen years fourteen 1205 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: years in now, I made a look back because I'm 1206 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 1: getting towards the end of that road, and it's like, right, 1207 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: I wish I could have did some things different. I 1208 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: saw that. You know. I've always tried to take care 1209 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: of my body and put the right things in my body. 1210 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,479 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like at a at a younger 1211 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: at once I had my first four or five years 1212 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think I took a lot of 1213 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: things for granted as far as like really getting into 1214 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: the playbook and you know, executing you know, because I 1215 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: think that would have presented different opportunities for me within 1216 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 1: within the offense. So you believe you were too good 1217 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: for y'all. You were you were too good for your 1218 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 1: own good because things came so easy that you're like, man, 1219 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: this is easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I put in 1220 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 1: and work. But when it came to like being in 1221 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: different positions, like being in there on third down and 1222 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: being spread out, you know, those types of things. You know, 1223 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I'm running a ball 1224 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: through hundred at the time, so you know, so scared 1225 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: if I cares twenty five passes or not exactly. So 1226 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: the next stop is gonna be after your career is 1227 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna be can't What would that mean? That would be 1228 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 1: that you know, obviously that's the culmination. What would that 1229 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: mean to you to to to go and have a 1230 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: bust in the halls of where the guys that you 1231 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: modeled your game, your heat rolls, and to know that 1232 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: you're sitting right next to it. You know, I think 1233 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: that's that's the peak. You know, it doesn't get you 1234 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: know better than that. You know in my mind that 1235 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl, it's like rights there, you know, 1236 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: on the same level in my mind personally, But that's 1237 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: something that I also thought about when I was a 1238 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: young youngster, is you know, being a Hall of Famer, 1239 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: being considered the best to ever played the game. So 1240 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: in my mind, it's okay, well that's the bar that 1241 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm sitting. Then X, Y and Z should follow right, 1242 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Famous you know follows followed within that. Man, 1243 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 1: we're good luck. You don't know the future, Holes, but 1244 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I hope it's right for you. As far as your 1245 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 1: NFL career, I know you wanted to continue to play 1246 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 1: and get closer to that record and eventually passed in it. 1247 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: So I wish you the best of luck along the way. 1248 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 1: And thanks for joining me today on Club Shaja Bro 1249 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: and thanks for having me Jenna, appreciate it bout that Bro, 1250 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I have a good one. The running all my life, sacrifice, 1251 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Hustle Bay, the Price, Wanna Slice, Got the rolling dice 1252 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: that s wait all my life? I've been running all 1253 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: my life, all my life, and running all my life 1254 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: sacrifice Hustle Bay the Price, and Wanna Slice? Got the 1255 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: rolling dice that sware all my life? I've been running 1256 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: all my life