1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day ba Q and podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: It's Monday, the ninth of February. I'm Caroline Hepgat in London. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: And I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, Kirstarmer's position 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: as UK Prime Minister hangs in the balance after the 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 3: resignation of his chief of staff. 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Japan Sana teke Ich triumphs with the biggest post war 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: election victory in the country's history. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Plus swatches tough time, the Swiss Watch Giants, and Battle 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: CEO strikes back at activists and skeptics. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Let's start with the roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 3: Ker Starmer's advisors are bracing this morning for cabinet ministers 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: to call on the UK Prime Minister to step down. 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: According to officials in Downing Street who spoke to Bloomberg, 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: ministers are likely to threaten resignation if the Prime Minister 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: ignores private appeals to step aside. The increasingly precarious state 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: of Starmer's premiership follows the resignation of his chief of 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: staff yesterday. Morgan McSweeney said he took full responsibility for 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: advising that Peter Mandelson should be appointed as the UK's 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: ambassador to the United States. That's despite Mandelson's known ties 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: to the convicted pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein. Labor MP Katherine 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: Atkinson says she still supports the Prime Minister. 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: I don't think you come from the humble working class 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: a background that he had become the Director of Public 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: Prosecutions and the Prime Minister by being someone who is weak. 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: I don't think that he will be pushed around. I 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 4: think that he is focused on the job and I 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: think that he isn't going anywhere. 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: Despite those words from Katherine Atkinson, one advisor to a 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: cabinet minister told Bloomberg it's now fifty to fifty whether 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: Starmer will last the week. The prospect is likely to 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: be focused for guilt markets this morning. Traders could react 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: negatively to a risk as the Prime Minister could be 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: replaced with a leader more inclined towards higher borrowing. 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: The UK's top spies are warning political parties of the 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: dangers posed by foreign interference, ranging from financial donations to honeytraps. 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's un Pots has the details. 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 5: First of its kind security briefing was held for officials 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: from all UK political parties last week, led by the 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: director of MI five and the heads of the National 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: Cybersecurity Center. According to the Cabinet Office, political leaders were 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 5: told how foreign players can deploy funding and investments as 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: tools to gain influence while hiding their true motives, as 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 5: well as using other tactics including coercion and sex. The 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: briefing comes amid growing concerns about the vulnerability of the 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 5: UK's democracy to foreign donations and bribes. In London, I'm 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 5: youwing Pots Bloomberg Radio, Boberger. 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: Has learned the Chinese regulators have advised financial institutions to 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: rein in their holdings of US treasuries, citing concerns over 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: concentration risks and market filatility. The guidance, which was communicated 51 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: verbally to some of the biggest Chinese banks in recent weeks, 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: reflects growing wariness among officials that large holdings of US 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: government debt may expose banks to sharp swings. The move 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: was framed around diversifying Marcus risk, rather than anything to 55 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: do with geopolitical maneuvering or a fundamental loss of confidence 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: in US credit worthiness. The directive doesn't apply to China's 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: stateholdings of US treasuries. 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: Now, when it comes to Japan, the Prime Minister of 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Sanai Takarichi, has secured a historic election triumph, marking her 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: as the most powerful leader in the country's post war era. 61 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Takichi's Liberal Democratic Party won a two third supermajority in 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Sunday's Lower House election, according to the public broadcaster NHK. 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: William Cho from the Hudson Institute says it's a personal 64 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: mandate for Takichi. 65 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 6: Very a large super majority victory ensures that there's at 66 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 6: least stability and consistency in her economic policy going forward, 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: and you're now going to see these constant, weavering policies. 68 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Jo ads that the resounding win means large amounts of 69 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: funding for structural changes to Japan's economy, but it might 70 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: rattle bond markets. Japan's stocks rallied to recordize on the news, 71 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: and the Japanese yen edged away from the danger zone 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: for intervention. 73 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: The Italian bank UniCredit has announced plans to return around 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: fifty billion euros to investors over the next five years. 75 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: It reported fourth quarter net profits which beat expectations of 76 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: just under two point two billion euros. The bank says 77 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: it's targeting around eleven billion euros and net profits for 78 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: the full year this year and thirteen billion by twenty 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: twenty eight. 80 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: Iran's president Masud Pozeshkian described Friday's nuclear talks with the 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: United States as a step forward. In an online post, 82 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: The leader said that dialogue has always been our strategy, 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: but added that the regime would not be intimidated. US 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump has in recent weeks moved large amounts 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: of military power to the region and threatened strikes. Trump 86 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: called Friday's tours quote very good and said another meeting 87 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: was set for early this week. 88 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: And Seattle Seahawks have won the Super Bowl, beating the 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: New England Patriots twenty nine to thirteen. Seattle's running back 90 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker was named MVP following the win. The victory 91 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: comes in their first Super Bowl appearance since the twenty 92 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: fourteen season, when they lost to the Patriots twenty eight 93 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: to twenty four. Meanwhile, the Grammy winning Puerto Rican artist 94 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: Bad Bunny headlined a visually stunning halftime performance and NBC 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: that also featured appearances by Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin. 96 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: God bless America. The performance appeared to give only a 97 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: subtle nod to political tensions, with the rapper holding a 98 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: football inscribed with the phrase Together We Are America. Writing 99 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: on social media, US President Donald Trump says that the 100 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: show was an affront to the greatness of America. 101 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: And those are our top stories for you this morning. 102 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: Let's get to the markets, where the dollar is edging 103 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: lower on the China Bank story, the Treasury exposure report, 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: and the discussion around limiting Chinese Bank's exposure to US treasuries. Meanwhile, 105 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: the nick has been surging up this morning by four 106 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: point three percent after the landslide victory by Takehi. The 107 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: Japanese yen also strengthening four tenths of one percent. European 108 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: stop futures are up by half of one percent. Hedge 109 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: funds are ramping up bearish bets against the pound. S 110 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: and P five hundred evenily futures are also higher after 111 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: US stocks roared back on Friday. Remember the S and 112 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: P five hundred rows by two percent, But goldber Sachs 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: traders warning that US stocks may be face further selling 114 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: this week. Gold right now is up by one and 115 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: a half percent. Teny treasury yields adding a basis point 116 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: to four point two two percent. Those are the markets. 117 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: In a moment, we're bringing the latest on the political 118 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: crisis facing cair Starmer, plus the battle for the future 119 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: of Swatch. But another story that caught our this morning, 120 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: what determines if you live to one hundred even if 121 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: you might feel one hundred years old? On this Monday morning, 122 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: a Blue Opinion columnist FT flams and writing about a 123 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: recent study which shows that longevity is roughly fifty percent 124 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: genetic and fifty percent environmental. And that's substantially higher contribution 125 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: from your genes that earlier research had indicated. So that 126 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: this doesn't mean you can give up now and essentially 127 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: stop living well. FT rights that for most of us, 128 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: it is still a healthy diet, regular exercise, and adequate 129 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: sleep that will dramatically improve the chances of a longer 130 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: and crucially healthier life as well. But there are this 131 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: small group of people who have a combination of genes 132 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: that slow the aging process, make them less susceptible to 133 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: diseases like heart disease and cancer as well, and they 134 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: might be the few that have the chances of living longer. Also, 135 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: there's a distinction between living well gets you to your eighties, 136 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: but if you want to make it to one hundred, 137 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: you know, teens pay a much bigger part. 138 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. I love that story. 139 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty wary of all the stuff around 140 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: kind of biohacking and clean eating and blood transfusions and 141 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: the kind of extremes that people seem to be going 142 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: to maybe within a bit of an obsession in terms 143 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: of immortality, at least amongst the super super wealthy. So 144 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: I like this data because in some ways. 145 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 7: It's about moderation. 146 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: You can have an impact on longevity, but you know, 147 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: some things you can't control. 148 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the question of you might as well 149 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: live well if you're going to try and live long 150 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: as well is a different debate that we'll have another day, 151 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure, but a great piece three this morning Blueberg 152 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: dot com for it, slash Opinion, and we'll put a 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: linked in our podcast show Notes. 154 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: Now let's bring you more on the pressure on the 155 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: British Prime Minister. King Starmer's job is hanging in the 156 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: balance after his chief of staff resigned over the appointment 157 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: of Peter Manderson, the UK's ambassadors to the United States. 158 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: One senior advisor told Bloomberg that it was fifty to 159 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: fifty whether Sarma would last this week are UK politics 160 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: Whoreporter James Wilcock joins us now for more what happened 161 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: over the weekend then that actually led to Morgan McSweeney resigning. 162 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 8: I mean, the weight of the Epstein scandal that we 163 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 8: have imported to the UK via Peter Madison, the former 164 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 8: years ambassador, simply became too. 165 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 7: Much to bear. 166 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 8: I mean, as a sign of that, all of the 167 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 8: UK press bar none have led on this resignation this morning, 168 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 8: with many saying it may not be enough to save 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 8: Starmer's job. And this scandal has come on the back 170 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 8: of waves of labor party anger towards Morgan McSweeney from 171 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 8: day one. He has his most loyal fans inside the party, 172 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 8: but he has always had detractors who argue he is 173 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 8: factional and ruthless. And added to that kind of built 174 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 8: in reservoir of anger is the promise of more to 175 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 8: come as more documents involved in the hiring process and 176 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 8: Manderson are set to come out over the next few weeks. 177 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 8: That would have further implicated McSweeney, who is star was 178 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 8: Starmer's chief of staff which led to over the weekend 179 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 8: McSweeney writing that he has resigned and telling Bloomberg among others, 180 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 8: that he takes full responsibility for giving the Prime Minister 181 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 8: the advice, amongst others to hire Pieter Manderson in the 182 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 8: first place. 183 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: So where does that leave the Prime Minister? Then this 184 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 3: Monday morning, James. 185 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 8: His job is on a knife edge. I mean as 186 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 8: a disclaimer, Stephen, as a journalist, I often feel we 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 8: shouldn't be sort of pouring fuel on the fire these 188 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 8: kind of things. But as someone who's covered when Boris 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 8: Johnson left office and Liz Truss in Westminster, when you 190 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 8: have no cover, in a febrile environment, when your MP's 191 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 8: are extremely unhappy, things can move extraordinarily quickly. And McSweeney 192 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 8: was the soul of the star More operation. Talking to 193 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 8: starm allies last night, one said to me that Starmer 194 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 8: has quote no cover. Now, another, who again is Starmer Backer, says, 195 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 8: let's see how long for Starmer. In words to me 196 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 8: last night and then to our political editor Alex Wickham, 197 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 8: he said a to a cabinet minister says it's fifty 198 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 8: to fifty Starma last week and number ten officials told Wickham, 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 8: a political editor, that they are bracing now for cabinet 200 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 8: ministers to walk into Number ten and say to Starmer 201 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 8: it's time to go. Whether that happens, we're not yet sure. 202 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 8: That's just this week. If he makes it through this week, 203 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 8: you then have a by election in Manchester in a 204 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 8: few weeks time and the local actions which are promising 205 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 8: to be disastrous for Labor, and we're already seen as 206 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 8: a moment which Starmer's leadership would be put to the test. 207 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: It was interesting, though, over the weekend I was reading 208 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: the US press, who are fascinated and slightly scratching their 209 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: heads as to the impact of the Epstein scandal here 210 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: in the UK versus in the US. Why is it 211 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: that the Epstein scandal, which Starmer has nothing to do with, 212 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: really that appears to have put Starmer more at risk 213 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: than ever before. 214 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 8: I think the first reason is muchally easy, which is 215 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 8: that there is already a ground sort of angermux Labor 216 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 8: MPs around the direction of Starmar's government policy. U turns 217 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 8: the fact he's the most unpopular prime minister in modern 218 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 8: political polling, the sort of party management and the approach 219 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 8: taken towards it so in many ways that was kind 220 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 8: of the sort of oil reservoir that was lit on 221 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 8: fire by the scandal. But the reason why the scandal 222 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 8: has driven a knife into the heart of star War's 223 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 8: government is Starmer Majeor's reputation as the squeaky clean change 224 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 8: of like the routine from Boris Johnson. He was the Director 225 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 8: of Public Prosecutions, he was a lawyer. He sort of 226 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 8: was visibly disgusted by party Gate and the Conservatives, and 227 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 8: he was going to be ethics and that that was 228 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 8: going to be his entire pitch for prime ministership. In 229 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 8: appointing Peter Madison, he overrode the civil service process. He 230 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 8: didn't pick a sort of career diplomat. He picked a 231 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 8: party loyalist, a politician. He did so against the advice 232 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 8: of many of his peers at the time, and in 233 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 8: doing so that has then unraveled in a way that 234 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 8: seems to be a political decision in a way that 235 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 8: for many labor MPs, their biggest fear was always being 236 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 8: seen as more of the same, and this scandal has 237 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 8: taken that and crystallized it into the sharpest possible repudiation 238 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 8: of what Starmer claims to have stood for That is 239 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 8: why this morning his own MPs are worrying about his future. 240 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: Okay, James are uka politic supporter James Wilcock, Thank you, 241 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: stay with us. More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up 242 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: after this. 243 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: Now, the family that controls the Swiss watch Chance Swatch, 244 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: which owns Omega, Harry Winston and Laugeen, is resisting an 245 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: activist campaign amid a challenging market. Joining us now is 246 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: Switzerland reporter Allegra Katelli on this story. Allego, good to 247 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: speak to you. Firstly, who is the activist investor then? 248 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: And why are they focused on Swatch? 249 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Hi, Caroline, thanks for having me so. Stevid Wood is 250 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: an American activist investor. He previously successful campaign at the 251 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: Italian defense company Leonardo. 252 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 7: He's basically arguing that change is needed. 253 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: He sees value in the company with so many of 254 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: the iconic brands that you mentioned, but also basically says 255 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: that the family has an over proportional influence on decision 256 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: making with forty four percent of voting powers, and he's 257 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: been in a raw with the company for the past 258 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: two years trying to change that and trying to represent 259 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: what are called bearer shareholders onto the board, which right 260 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: now is you know, most of the members on there 261 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: have been on there for more than fifteen years. So 262 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: he's trying to change the highkagemony on the on the group. 263 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 7: Now. 264 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: Nick Kayak is the son of Swatch's founder, benefits from 265 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: a dual class share listing and he's fighting back. 266 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: How Yeah, so lately the family has been fighting back. 267 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 7: For sure. Last year would try to get on the board. 268 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 7: They rejected him on. 269 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: The premises that he was American and that he's on 270 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: the board of another company, leonardad as I mentioned earlier, 271 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: and that didn't really work. 272 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 7: Uh, would then suit Swatch on. 273 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: These premises, saying that that wasn't acceptable and wasn't legal. 274 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 7: But yeah, the family has been fighting back. 275 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: And the latest changes seen this year, including the very. 276 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 7: The big reaction. 277 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: That the market has seen following the results and the 278 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: bullish outlook that Nick gave for the watch industry, which 279 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: isn't so widely shared by others in the in the 280 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: watch market, but also Swatched after after the results, proposed 281 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: the appointment of a new board member, Andrea as Rickenbacher, 282 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: to be voted throughout the next AGM in May. 283 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 7: That's the first edition to the Board in. 284 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: That the that the that the company makes in over 285 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: ten years. After a lot of pushback about the independence 286 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: of Switch as a board, so it's a little bit 287 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: more difficult for Wood to argue. 288 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 289 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 290 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, Spotify, 291 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 292 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 293 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 294 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 295 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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