1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? You're listening to your boys? John middle 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Cough on the Three and Out Podcast, brought to you 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: by the Colin Coward Podcast Network. Another big week coming 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: at you. You can listen to us anywhere podcasts are found. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: If you listen on iTunes, subscribe, rate and in the 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: review sex and leave a question at the end of 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: every podcast, have a couple of good questions. Today we'll 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: answer some of those questions on the podcast. We do 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: it every week. Uh today, We've got some good stuff 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: coming up. Brown's one of the biggest drafts I think 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: in NFL history. What really goes on in the draft room. 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: I've been in them, I've helped set them up, I've 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: been a part of them as a scout. Give you 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: a little insight to what's going on. And then some 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: stuff on on Aaron Rodgers complaining why he's wrong and 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady saga that just will not go away. 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: But let's start with the Browns. I've read some places 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter that people have theorized listen on this podcast, 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: we're all four thinking outside the box. Just because the 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: way something's been done forever doesn't mean that we have 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: to continue doing that. I wouldn't call myself necessarily and 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: outside the box thinker, but I'm very open to ideas. 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: I would call myself old school, yet very open new 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: ideas and definitely willing to change if the opportunity makes sense. 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: And I've seen some headlines, probably more Twitter you know 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: and read it, and some just like local blog base. 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: But it got me thinking, should the Browns take a 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: quarterback at number one and number four? And I just 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of you have to think about it for a second. 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: The more I thought about it, it's not a crazy idea. 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: But here's why it makes no sense. Let's do a hypothetical. 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: You take Sam Donald at one, uh Sae Kwan Barkley 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: goes to Josh Rosen goes three, and you take Baker 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Mayfield at four. So you have Sam Donald and Baker 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Mayfield on your roster. You let him battle it out. 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: The best guy wins the job. Here's the ultimate problem. 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: If that guy wins the job, Let's say it's Sam 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Darnald and he becomes a starting quarterback for a couple 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: of years and he's solid, you know, he's like, uh, 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, not quite as good as like a Marcus 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Mariotta Mariota was good. His okay, his rookie year, really good. 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: A second year, his third year, you know it wasn't very. 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: He was terrible last year, even though his team made 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs. His numbers, I think he was like thirteen 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: touchdown seventeen picks. He was bad. Uh and Baker Mayfield 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: was his backup. The problem would be typically when you 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: take two quarterbacks in a draft, or even have a 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: quarterback on your roster and consistently take like the Andy 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: reestyle of always taking guys Mike Holmber into this forever. 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: This was the Ron Wolf school of thinking, taking a 51 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in the mid to late rounds, even when you 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback, if that guy looks good in 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: the preseason, no one everyone understands, like, of course he's 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: not starting Brett Fars starting quarterback or Donovan Nager starting 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: quarterback or whatever. And then you flip him and you 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots have done it with mac cassle, they did 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. It's like, of course he's not gonna 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: beat out Tom Brady. The problem is if that quarterback 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Sam Donald and not even a top ten guy, that 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: guy's value you will never sniff the number four pick. 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you would sniff a first round pick. 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: You would potentially if he didn't look great in the 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: preseason and the guy that's starting over him is not 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: a great player. Your value you're looking at like a 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: third or fourth round pick a team basically going off there, 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, pre draft evaluation. So while the theory and 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: the thought process is not crazy, it's worth talking about. 68 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: And I'm sure not just us in the media or 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: people on Twitter or people on blogs like having fun 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: with it. They would have been stupid not to have 71 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the conversation. But the ultimate trump card why you could 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: never do it is whoever doesn't win the job, whether 73 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: it's your number one overall pick or number four overall picks. 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, if you've got a 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: good quarterback out of it, it doesn't necessarily matter. The 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: problem is that other guy is kind of a wasted 77 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: pick because eventually you'll be able to trade him for something, 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: but never close to what you bought it for. If 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: you buy a stock for a hundred thousand dollars, you 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: eventually don't want to have to sell off, you know, 81 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: at forty dollars. You would like at minimum to get 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: your money back and in a perfect world, to make 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: a return on your investment. The hard part if you 84 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: take a guy that high, if you're ever gonna trade him, 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: you're probably never gonna get close to a top five pick. 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: But if it's a quarterback, we've seen the crazy trades, right. 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: If the guy is just solid, the problem would be 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: is it's one of the loan positions really in football, 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: where only one guy can play kicker, punter, long snapper, 90 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: quarterback that you don't get to rotate like wide receivers 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: or pass rushers. He just doesn't get to play. So 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: who only film would be preseason, and then everyone in 93 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: the league would be asking themselves why isn't that guy playing? 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: So I do think it's worth talking about, and it's 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: kind of a fun little scenario. It's just not realistic 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: to me. The move would be and I don't think 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: this is crazy at all, because the Redskins laid the 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: blueprint and it kind of bailed their ass out. They 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: took r G three and then remember they didn't have 100 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: many picks because they had a trade so much to 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: the Rams Uh to get Bob Griffin, the third as 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: I call him. Then they took Kirk Cousins in the 103 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: same draft, and as Robert's career fell apart and his 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: knee basically fell off, Kirk came in and ultimately became 105 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: a guy that you felt comfortable franchising that led a 106 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. Uh, there wasn't really good player 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: turned out to be a better player than Robert Griffin 108 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: the third Like, you can take Sam Donald at one, 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: and this is a team that has like fifty picks 110 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: in this draft. Take Luke Falk in the fourth round. Hell, 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: even at the end of the third round, just as 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: a backup plan, just as a guy you're not necessarily 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: looking just to flip right away. But so if a 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: guy gets injured, you have another guy to develop, another 115 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: guy to work with. To me, that that's not easy 116 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: at all. To me, that is the move I would 117 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: do that if obviously it would have to match up, 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: the value would have to be right, the player you'd 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: have to be comfortable with. But I think there are 120 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks in this draft that you could kind of 121 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: circle in the third or fourth round, especially a team 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: like the Browns if they just had to pick every round, 123 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: I would go, Uh, I don't love it. I don't 124 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: know if i'd necessarily try to force that, but think 125 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Google how many picks they have. They have multiple picks 126 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: in the top five, so you're already getting two players 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: before the fifth overall pick even happens in the draft. 128 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Obviously your quarterback, but then you're gonna get whether it's 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Sae Kwan Barkley, whether it's Bradley Chub, whether it's Denzil 130 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Award at number four, and then you have the thirty 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: third overall picks, so you're gonna get another sweet player. 132 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: That's where the Browns have a huge advantage to take 133 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: advantage of the situation, to meet Ron Wolfe, Mike Holmgren, 134 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: Andy Reid. I think they would take another quarterback in 135 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: this draft to kind of groom behind the guy as 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: potential trade bait, as potential a contingency plan if something 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: goes poorly, and I think you have to you would 138 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: love for the guy to be a great player. And 139 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm bullish on Sam Donald as anyone probably besides Sam 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: Donald's parents, but we've seen the way the NFL plays out, 141 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: the way guys flame out, injuries happen, it's not crazy. 142 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: And then if he does turn into a good player 143 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: and you've groomed and developed the backup just looking like 144 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: a solid guy. You'll be able to flip him and 145 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: you'll turn a fourth round pick into a second. Hell, 146 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: if it goes perfectly, maybe a first. To me, that's 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the move. And the Browns are entering I think one 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: of the biggest drafts for a team in NFL history, 149 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: given how terrible they've been, giving what a laughing stock 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: they are, and given how many picks they have, and 151 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: giving the opportunities they're in front of him. I I mean, listen, 152 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: I live on the West Coast. I couldn't be more 153 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: excited to watch what the Cleveland Browns do in the 154 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: end fell draft. Well, you know, I wasn't planning at 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of this week to talk about Tom Brady 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, but they've kind of come into the news, 157 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, there are the two best quarterbacks 158 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Arguably Tom's the best quarterback in NFL history. 159 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: It's weird because Aaron is more talented than Tom, even 160 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: though I think Brady is the best quarterback ever for 161 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: my generation, the older millennials. To me, Rogers is the 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: Marino Elway of my generation, just the just the holy 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: shit that that is just a talent. I've never seen 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: that before. And I heard Joe Montana actually on Good 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Morning Football lasked I think it was last week, and 166 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: they asked him a question what quarterback of his generation 167 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: did He did He believe would just do the best 168 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: in today's rule, and he didn't even hesitate Marino. And 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: when you hear the old school guys talk about Marino, 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: I know he never won a super Bowl, but the 171 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: reverence they talk about his ability. And that's the way 172 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: I feel with rod Or, like he he may just 173 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: win his careers all over, just end up with one 174 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl. But I know what I watched. You know, 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: It's like when you talk to someone that watched Mickey 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Mantle play or Wilt chamberlainn play or you know whoever. 177 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: They just they just talk about the guy at a 178 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: different level, Like I'll always do that for Aaron Rodgers. 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Is he a little different? Is he a little weird? Uh? 180 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Is he the first guy you'd want to play with? 181 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Maybe not, but just from a talent standpoint, there's no 182 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: disputing it. But I'm gonna have to disagree with something 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: that he's There was a report came it's hard to 184 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: keep up with all this stuff. There was a report 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: that came out a couple of days ago on Yahoo 186 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: did he's somewhat disenchanted and and not very happy that 187 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: he's not involved and in the loop with everything. And 188 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: I think this ties into Tom Brady, who did not 189 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: show up for organized team activities. I don't even think 190 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: these are actually O t as. These are technically just 191 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: workouts and meetings. It's not that crazy to me. It's 192 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: only crazy in the fact that he hasn't missed these 193 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: since two thousand ten, and over that period of time 194 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: they went to multiple Super Bowls. They won two Super Bowls. 195 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: I think in total they went to four, and in 196 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: he established himself from basically two thousand eleven until this year. 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: That's when he set in stone in concrete that he 198 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: was the greatest quarterback ever. And now this rift which 199 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: whatever is going on with Bill Belichick, there's clearly something there. 200 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: Same deal with Aaron Rodgers in his organization that I 201 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: think both those two players are starting to realize, like, 202 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: you guys kind of need me, and they can act 203 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: a little bit like basketball players in terms of it's 204 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: a players league, because in the NFL it's not a 205 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: players league like in the NBA. Uh, Gregg Popovitch, who's 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of going he's on one right now when it 207 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: comes to Kawhi Leonard and his people, Like if I 208 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: could recommend something to Greg bob Vitch, and clearly he 209 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't listen to me because he wouldn't listen to anyone 210 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: in the media, you know. And I don't know all 211 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: the details, but i'd say, you know, Pop, I don't 212 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: know if I'd quite handled that way, you know, this 213 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: situation with a top five player quite like you're doing. 214 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: But in the NFL, Belichick has shown a long history 215 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: of never giving a damn about a player beside really Brady. 216 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: But even Brady, who's forty years old, will be forty 217 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: one years old this season. You know, even Belichick has 218 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: to be thinking to himself, this guy's gonna push me around. 219 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: The problem is he's not really a tradeable player, so 220 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: they're kind of in this no man's land. He's never 221 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: listened to Tom, He's gotten rid of his buddies, whether 222 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: it's Logan Ankins, whether it's Wes Welker. He does things 223 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: almost in spite of Tom. And I think Tom's a 224 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: little tired of it a little like Aaron Rodgers. I 225 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers has seen all these guys over the 226 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: years not be signed, seeing a team that's in fairness, 227 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: like the difference. Belichick is such a good coach that 228 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: he can find guys make them players. He's also sneaky aggressive, 229 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: whether it comes to getting and a key to leave 230 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: or you know, getting a getting a Durrell reevous. Last 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: year he signed Stephon Gilmore. I'm not the biggest Gilmore guy, 232 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was. I mean, they paid him a 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: bunch of money. He will do big moves where the paid, 234 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: where the Packers never have. And Aaron Rodgers now is 235 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: He kind of denied it, called it clickbait, of course, 236 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: but there's no disputing he's not quite happy. I think 237 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: his best friend on the team was Jordy Nelson was 238 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: just released. My problem always and and I don't think 239 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: Tom like Rogers, is necessarily mad that they won't listen 240 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: to him. He's just tired of Belichick getting all the 241 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: credit of Belichick being always able to determine everything, where 242 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Rogers wants some input, like he's again like an NBA player. 243 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: And here's my problem with Aaron Rodgers wanting that input 244 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: from in theory, I guess it does make some sense. 245 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: And when you're gonna get rid of his quarterback coach, 246 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: a guy that he spends a lot of time with, 247 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: I might side with Aaron because, like for Brady, they 248 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: don't have much coaching turnover, so there's a lot of 249 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: consistency there. You know, if if you look at Aaron, 250 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: he's lost some coordinators. McAdoo bounced Philbin back in the day, 251 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: bounced and I think it's back now. So he's had 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: some turnover because they've had success and they've had a 253 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: lot of aspirational young coaches on the offensive side of 254 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: the ball that have gotten jobs. So I get if 255 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of his coach and not tell him. 256 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: But when it comes to cutting, especially cutting players, Like, 257 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: what do I think if I asked Aaron Rodgers, Uh, 258 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: you know, we're thinking about getting rid of Jordy he 259 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: is cat numbers two big? What do you think that 260 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: that'd be like asking me, hey, John, we were thinking 261 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: about ordering pizza for dinner. What do you think? Yes, 262 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: I know Aaron's gonna say no, don't cut him. I 263 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: know the answer. So when it comes to player personnel moves. 264 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: I've seen it firsthand. The scouting department, the crew of 265 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: people in the front office spend every waking minute evaluating 266 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: these players do right or wrong. That they just know 267 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: more than Aaron. Also when it comes to money, so 268 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: they've done they Actually, I thought did a pretty good 269 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: job this offseason. I said, Aaron, you know you can't 270 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: sign everyone. Georgy is no longer the player that he 271 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: once was. We just broke Davante Adams and gave him 272 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: huge cash a couple of years ago, before Randall Cobb 273 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: hit free agency. We broke him off this year. Say 274 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: what you want about Jimmy Graham. He's a flawed player. 275 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: He did what do you have? Ten touchdowns? Yeah? I 276 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: think he led the league in red zone touchdowns for 277 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: a tight end. Like he was pretty productive. We did 278 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: get Bahamed Wilkerson like we have got. We changed defensive coordinators. 279 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: We have made changes for you, but we're not gonna 280 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: go to you and ask you your thought on every move. 281 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: First off, It's just that's not realistic. In second off, 282 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: I know, besides, like your position, coach, I know your 283 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: take is gonna be on most guys, especially on the 284 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: team guys that you're gonna want to keep. And that's 285 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: the hard part about football. You have to make some 286 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: tough cuts. It's like Brady. I think Brady is finally 287 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: trying to flex his muscles. And I'd say the problem Tom. 288 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: And there was a report as of recording this earlier 289 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: today Schefter said something you know, Basically, he's like, there's 290 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: a slight, slight chance that Tom would retire, but everyone 291 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: around him thinks it's, of course Tom's gonna return. But 292 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: clearly Tom's trying to flex his little muscles. Not little, 293 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're not big because he doesn't lift, 294 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: he just stretches. But Tom, you probably should have done 295 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: this five or six years ago. You're now forty years old, 296 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: and he here's a thing unlike Roger's because Roger's still 297 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: in the prime of his career. Like Tom, you might 298 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: retire in a year or two. You just you're you 299 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: gotta be careful and you're probably I don't live in Boston, 300 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: but I'm a huge Patriot guy. Watch all their games. 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they're the best organization of the salary cap era. 302 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: I'd say any sport, and it's like time you have 303 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: to be careful of risking your fan base. They all 304 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: believe right or wrong, and I think they're kind of 305 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: right that you helped force Bill's hand on getting Renny 306 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: rid of Jimmy Garoppolo, like they if you wanted to retire, 307 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: which no one really believes, but you're kind of trying 308 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: to flex your muscles, like you think about it, Well, 309 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: if you were to retire, we had your replacement and 310 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: you made us get rid of them. And now you're 311 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: trying to be a tough guy and act like that. 312 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: You gotta be careful because fan bases are very fickle. 313 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm on team Belichick on this one. I think if 314 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: you split them both up right now, and you put 315 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: Belichick on a random team and Brady on a random team, 316 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: and let's say both teams were equal, I think Belichick 317 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: would have more success. I think what he does is 318 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: more important because he's proven he could find he could 319 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: make Matt Castle a winning player. He turned Jimmy Garoppolo 320 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: into a star. Now, I don't necessarily think that Belichick 321 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: would just win the Super Bowl, but I think there's 322 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: a chance that Tom right as of today, maybe in 323 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: the peak of his powers, you know, eight nine years ago, 324 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: would be a different story. But right now, if I 325 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: could pick one, I wouldn't even hesitate, and I take Belichick. 326 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: So I this is the bed a little bit that 327 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft made and this is why if you're Green Bay, 328 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: this is why you don't let the quarterback push you 329 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: around and you don't involve them and stuff. And I 330 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: think this organization in Green Bay went through that with 331 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: far And now for the first time, the Patriots, who 332 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: have been teflon bulletproof, the most consistent, quiet organization ever. 333 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: It's just one thing after another. It's because they're kind 334 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: of Brady feels empowered and for his entire career he 335 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: basically acted like Tim Duncan, the ultimate team guy, taking discounts, 336 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, always just siding with belichickors because that was 337 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: the right thing to do with set the tone for 338 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: the organization. Now for the first time, he's kind of like, 339 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: screw this and look it's you know, people have reported 340 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: that they're independent of each other. In the Gronkowski not 341 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: showing up has nothing to do with Tom even though 342 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: what kind of does. Like one of the big stories 343 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: was Belichick ripped Gronx ass for working out with TV 344 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: twelve and obviously Alex Guerro was banned last year, and 345 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: that's Tom's guy. I mean, all you gotta do is 346 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: watch two minutes of Tom verse time and realize that 347 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: guys spends as much time with him as Giselle or 348 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: his kids. Like, that's Tom's dude, and Belichick clearly disrespected 349 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: him in Tom's eyes. So Green Bay should just keep 350 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: doing what they're doing, not asking Eric. Just pay him 351 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: a premium, you know, keep drafting receivers for him and 352 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. But the moment you start to empower him, uh, 353 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: that's when he'll get He'll start acting like Brady and 354 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: then he'll start pushing you around. You've already been You've 355 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: already seen that happen with Brett Farve. It's a miserable existence, 356 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: and now Tom starting to do it. In my advice 357 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: to Tom, and again he wouldn't listen to me, but 358 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I'd say, listen, Tom, you are probably the most respected 359 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: superstar in an area, in the history of an area, 360 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Like I see it in the Barrier with Joe Montana, 361 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: how revered he was it still is and Tom, to me, 362 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: I would imagine in Boston is quadruple that. Partly because 363 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: it's still ongoing, but he's untouchable. There's that they've had 364 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: his back with the Flate gate. They've just Tom's their guy. 365 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: But when you start doing stuff like this and now 366 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, threatening just to hold out, it's just you're 367 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna fight with Belichick. It's just kind of crazy. But 368 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: it does feel like are we headed to the last 369 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: year of the Brady Belichick connection of the duo? Because 370 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: if I was a betting man and you say middle 371 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: Koff put five on, I'm giving it one and a 372 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: half seasons. Would you take the over or the under 373 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: of the Belichick Brady duo as of right now with 374 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: all the weird stuff that's happening basically like every day, 375 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: especially something really weird happens in this draft, as in 376 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: Belichick trades like five picks to go get Josh Rosen 377 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: or Baker Mayfield or hell even Lamar Jackson. I would 378 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: put my money on the under. So you gotta be 379 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: careful and empowering your quarterbacks. And I think Tom's walking 380 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: a slippery slope right now of turning his own fan 381 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: base a little bit against him. Let's talk a little 382 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: bit about the draft room. When I got hired in 383 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: the NFL by far the coolest thing besides like getting 384 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: to work down the hall from an NFL coach and 385 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: being in next you know, you're basically just answering to 386 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: an NFL GM. That's that's pretty cool. I mean, when 387 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: you're in your early twenties and you get to do that, 388 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: that's just it's pretty mind blowing. Uh. The shitty thing 389 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: is you make about dollars, but you're not getting into 390 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: it for the money. The first place you want to 391 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: go is the draft room and see all the magnets, 392 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: see all the cards. I got hired by the Philadelphia 393 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Eagles like most you know, young personnel people, and really 394 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: the way the personnel UH fiscal year agoes. Like for coaches, 395 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: they all get fired right after the season. That's when 396 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: you see coaching movement for general managers. For scouts, it 397 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: happens after the draft that their contracts. Coaches contracts run 398 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: through the end of the season, obviously if you make 399 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Through the playoffs, scouts general managers contracts typically 400 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: run through the draft, so you get there, you know 401 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: in UH went to the draft end of April. So 402 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: usually people get hired and fired, you know, in the 403 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: middle early in May, so the draft room is still up, 404 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: O t A s are going on. I vividly remember 405 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: my first time just walking the draft room. How cool 406 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: it was seeing all the magnets up. You basically have 407 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: the you have this huge kind of conference room just 408 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: wrapped around with magnets of every team, every team's draft. 409 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: The draft board what it was because all the you know, 410 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: the magnets have come off as the draft and went down. 411 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: And then as you work in the league, you become 412 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: part of the draft process. Uh, being a being a 413 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: college scout, you know, I saw the way the draft 414 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: board gets put together. And basically as we sit here 415 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: on April eighth Wednesday, April eighteenth, the majority around the league, 416 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I would imagine draft boards are done definitely the first 417 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: five six rounds. Setting Stone, I do think a lot 418 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: of times, like late in the game, teams are just 419 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: trying to finalize they're undrafted free agent lists. You know, players, 420 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: because guys, if you put them in the six or 421 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: seventh round on your draft board, depending not every team 422 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily by round by grade, whatever, however an individual 423 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: team does it, you have to realize that a lot 424 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: of those guys are not gonna get picked, and you're 425 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna have the chance to isolate right now, knowing guys 426 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: that you would love to have is undrafted free agents. Now, 427 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: obviously it's a fluid process, but for the last several weeks, 428 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: the board basically runs by round on the left and 429 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: then horizontal on the top, by position, and you know, 430 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: let's just be started at quarterback and you go all 431 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: the way over to kickers and punters, and you've worked 432 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: through the draft and I know the green base way, 433 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: the John Dorsey's, the Ted Thompson's, the John Schneider's, the 434 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Reggie Mackenzie's. Now I know Veach now in Kansas City 435 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: is doing it this way. Uh, they watch a lot 436 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: of tape for weeks on end. So you're basically working 437 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: fourteen to seventeen straight days every day, going through position, 438 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: through around, through grades, and whenever there's a discrepancy on 439 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: the stack. So let's say you're on the quarterbacks, and 440 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: let's say you're a quarterback needed team and there's an 441 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: argument between Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen. You're immediately throwing 442 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: on the tape multiple games as the entire group, every 443 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: scout is in the room and sometimes depending on the organization, 444 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: the head coaches in the room too, maybe the coordinator, 445 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: and you're just watching it. You're banging out the film 446 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: and you're arguing over who's better, and ultimately, you know, 447 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: in the scouting community they say the tape does and lie. 448 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Eventually it gets ironed out basically by there's a decision 449 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: maker in the room, whoever the general manager is, and 450 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: in some cases as the coach, he's just gonna say 451 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: this is the way we're stacking it. And then once 452 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: that is set, that individual that's on the other end, right, 453 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: if you like the player that didn't get stacked on top, 454 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: you may be wrong, but that's that's the way it's 455 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna be. So you just kind of have to move 456 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: on and ultimately the whole point of this is to 457 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: win and get it right. As a team like this 458 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: isn't it's hard because you're in a room pounding the 459 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: table or fighting for a player that other people may 460 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: not like, especially if you're from that area and you've 461 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: gotten into that school, you know, it's kind of becomes personal. 462 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: But but ultimately you all have the same common goal 463 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: trying to win and trying to get the best players. 464 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of interesting dynamics, and then the 465 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: general manager of the college director it's obviously based out 466 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: of the building that's not living an individual area. Uh, 467 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: it's not spending as much time in those individual schools 468 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: with those you know, individual players and getting the background 469 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: information you know, from those coaches, from the people in 470 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: the schools have a little bit less of a personal 471 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: connection and can usually make kind of an unbiased in 472 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: a perfect world decision. Now that that doesn't always take place, 473 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: and as this board has played out, everyone's talking about, 474 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, some teams are just calling around setting up 475 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: trades right now that if the player he wants there, 476 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: you know, you call team X. If you're at you know, 477 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: let's say you're the Dallas Cowboys at pick nineteen, you 478 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: call the Oakland Raiders that pick eleven and say, listen, 479 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: if you know, you don't even necessarily have to tell 480 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: them the player, but we'd be willing to move up 481 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: to pick to pick ten from nineteen and give you X, Y, 482 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: and Z if the situation presents itself. So all these 483 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: hypothetical deals that that's why I was so shocked when 484 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: the Jets went from six of three because typically you 485 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: see that deal on draft day once the player you 486 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: want is there. You don't typically see that months before 487 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Now, this was kind of a unique 488 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: draft because there were multiple high level quarterback prospects. But 489 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: in the draft room, and I think coming down this 490 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: home stretch, you still have scouts in that room kind 491 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: of banging the table and fighting for the guys that 492 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: they really want. And it's such a fluid process right 493 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: now because the draft hasn't taken place that you have 494 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: to pick your spots. But there are a lot of 495 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: guys all over the league college directors that may disagree 496 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: with the ranking right now on their individual team's draft board, 497 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: that are just waiting, like I hope the guy that 498 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: guy follows in the second round, so I can just 499 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: you know, pound the table, get up on the table, 500 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: stand on the table, is what they say in the 501 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: scouting rooms and are and argue for that individual player. 502 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: And I think as we sit here today, all the 503 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they're considered O t s. But these 504 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: mini camps, in these meetings are taking place, you know, 505 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: with the actual football team. So the coaches, the individual 506 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: position coaches now are kind of doing something different, like 507 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: they're more focused on their individual players, you know, in 508 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: meeting rooms, and it's really this becomes a scouting process. 509 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: This coaches have given their input, have given the guys 510 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: they like. Obviously the head coaches still really involved, but 511 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the position coaches and even the coordinators 512 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: are so focused on the players now in the building. 513 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: They're not as quite involved as they were three weeks 514 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: ago when they were kind of hooting and hollering and 515 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: screaming and pounding the table for guys Day. Like now 516 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: that all amps up next week and depending on the organization, 517 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: Like when I was in Philly, I think they've expanded 518 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: the draft room. It's a lot bigger, but when I 519 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: was there, the draft room wasn't that big. The assistant 520 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: coaches were not in the draft room for the first round. Well, 521 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: once you get to the middle of the second round, 522 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: the doors open and up. It becomes a little more 523 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: fluid in and out of the room, but the first 524 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: round is a closed door. You know, for most organizations, 525 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: it's your general manager, your owner, your head coach, your 526 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: college director, maybe your coordinators, your cap guy, your president, 527 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, some minority owners. It's not a huge group 528 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: of people because a lot of these rooms can't fit 529 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, twenty scouts, twenty coaches, uh and all the 530 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: people that I listed above. So it's really I've heard 531 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: in New England there's like five people in the room. 532 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: Now I've seen pictures of like I think Green Bay 533 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: had a pretty big draft room. Definitely Seattle they I 534 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: think they do it in a conference room. Uh like 535 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: maybe maybe they do it in the team meeting room 536 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: because there are a ton of chairs, ton of room. 537 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: I know Kansas City's is pretty big, but not not 538 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: everyone is in that room. So it's harder to scream 539 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: for a player if you're the tight end coach or 540 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: the running back coach or the southeast scout. If you're 541 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: not in the actual room, you basically just here one 542 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: of the younger guys on the staff that actually is 543 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: in the room doing some like basically accounting, you know, 544 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: as every picks happening, he's grabbing the magnets and putting them, 545 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: you know with the specific team. He just screams like, hey, guys, 546 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: are picks up and everyone comes into the room. And 547 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: that's when you're watching television and you see the entire 548 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: group or the entire organization basically in that little room. 549 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: They're not in that room before the pick. So this 550 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: is a this is a great week. We're basically a 551 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: little over a week away. I can't wait for the 552 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: first round. I can't wait for the NFL Draft. There 553 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: are all these draft rooms, these draft boards are are 554 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: getting set. Basically as we speak, many of them are done, 555 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: and now it's basically just time to pick some actual players. Last, 556 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: but not least, you know, we like on this show 557 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: to answer questions that you guys give me. On iTunes. 558 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: You if you haven't, go two iTunes. If that's where 559 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: you listen to your podcast, you can also find it 560 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: basically every other different platform to listen to podcasts. But subscribe, 561 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: rate and in the review section leave a question and 562 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I will answer them during the podcast. Let's go through 563 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: a couple of questions. Mike from Valencia, it's in California. 564 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: I have two Raiders questions. In your opinion, who should 565 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: the Raiders go after in the draft and who do 566 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: you think they're actually targeting. In my opinion, the guy 567 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: they should go after would be ro Kuan Smith. But 568 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: I also think, and this is what you have to 569 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: be prepared for when you're in a draft room. Is 570 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: there was the guy you want, and if you're not 571 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: drafting really in the top four or five, you have 572 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: to be realistic of who you can actually get. So 573 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: obviously ro Kuan Smith would be the number one guy 574 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: on my draft board for a guy that could potentially 575 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: fall there. But as this process has played out, as 576 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: he has gone on all these visits and his stock 577 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: is only really blown up, you have to kind of 578 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: come to grips with he's probably not gonna be there. 579 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: So to me, the guy they're actually probably targeting. They 580 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: need defensive backs in the worst way. They do not 581 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: really have a free safety. They have a strong safety, 582 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: but he's kind of he's been a flawed player of 583 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: these last couple of years in Karl Joseph though he 584 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: was a first round pick. They do not have a 585 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: slot corner. Uh, they do not have anyone, you know, 586 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: that can basically play multiple positions in the defensive backfield. 587 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: That I think at the end of the day, they 588 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: have their new defensive backs coach under John Gruden, was 589 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: just coaching for Nick Saban last year. Coaching the defensive 590 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: backs that make a Fitzpatrick makes a lot of sense, 591 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: can cover the slot, can play both safety, positions, can 592 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: in a pinch, play some corner and it's just in 593 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: a position where he's not gonna bust. He may not 594 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: be an All pro, superstar level player, but he will 595 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: not be bad. And no team in the end of 596 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: fell is more desperate for just productive defensive backs that 597 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: is considered a good team than the Oakland Raiders, So 598 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: to meet Minca makes a lot of sense. The other 599 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: two guys would be I think you say his name 600 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: is McKinley, the offensive tackle from Notre Dame. Some people 601 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: like Connor Williams, the offensive tackle from Texas. Uh, the 602 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: Raiders are going to be in the tackle market. They 603 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: do not have a right tackle and they're starting left tackle. 604 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Donald Penn is an older player, maybe has a year 605 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: or two left. So John Gruden mentioned this at the 606 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: owner's meetings. They need to find a tackle. I wouldn't 607 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: be floored shock Colton Miller, the offensive tackle from u 608 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: C l A. He's kind of like Nate Solder, six 609 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: eight six nine, big time athlete, ran like a four 610 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: nine five in his pro day, can fly, really good athlete, 611 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: jump thirty two inches ten would be a little a 612 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: little high for me. But if they were to trade back. 613 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: If one of the quarterbacks were to fall, I think 614 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: he would be in the mix. Uh that they need 615 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: you get a tackle, and typically where you get good 616 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: tackles is in the first round, So I think they're 617 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: targeting tackles for that number ten overall pick, and I 618 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: think ro Kuan Smith and Makeing Fitzpatrick would be the 619 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: guys they love. Another question from lone Wolf in d 620 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: T l A. I'll take that as Downtown l A 621 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: forgiving Andy his due second highest wins behind Belichick. Looking 622 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: at the latest Vegas Super Bowl futures, we like gambling 623 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: on this show. Vegas likes DeShawn more than Mahomes, obviously 624 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: the Hugh. That would mean the Houston Texans have better 625 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: Super BA ods than the Kansas Chiefs. But is Vegas 626 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: discounting Andy? I had Andy on last week. He clearly 627 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 1: is very bullish on Mahomes and I think a lot 628 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: of people have written off the Kansasy Chiefs as a 629 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: team that is rebuilding, and as I asked him, he 630 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: doesn't think like that. He's not a rebuilder, He's a reloader. Now, 631 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: it's a little different when you have a first time 632 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. When he starts Week one, will be making 633 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: his second career start. They spent a lot of money 634 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: this offseason. They got a number two wide receiver that 635 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: makes sixteen million dollars. Some argue that that's kind of 636 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: a crazy deal. I don't think it's that nuts, just 637 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: because I do think Sammy Watkins still has a lot 638 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: of ability, and I think Andy Reid is the perfect 639 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: coach for Sammy to get the most ability out of 640 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: his talents and most production out of his body. Then 641 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: I don't think many other places it would have worked 642 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: that way. I also think Mahomes, a deep ball thrower, 643 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: is a good fit for him. With Tyreek Hill, with 644 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, with Travis Kelsey almost called him Jason Kelsey, 645 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: that's his brother. And their offensive line solid. So you 646 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs, you go, if their defense is 647 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: just better, how would they be worse? They were terrible 648 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: last year. If they are just solid, just decent, I 649 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: think their offense is gonna be better. Maybe not more 650 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: consistent than they were with Alex, but much more explosive 651 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: because they have the ability to throw fifty and sixty 652 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: bombs to these two wide receivers. With Mahomes, is there 653 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: a better coach in the NFL to have a young 654 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: quarterback plan for than Andy Reid, so Patrick Mahomes in 655 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: the perfect situation, there are the expectations aren't that crazy 656 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: high because in their division everyone's looking at this hundred 657 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: million dollar coach. Gruten's taken over the Raiders, which should 658 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: be solid, and the Chargers, I mean, if they're ever 659 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna win anything or just win the division, this would 660 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: be the year. So I think people are kind of 661 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: sleeping on him. Now. Do I like him to win 662 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Probably not. But I've checked on my 663 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: site and you can almost get them plus three thousand 664 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: to one. So if you put a hundred bucks right now, 665 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: as I think it goes plus hundred, so you put 666 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: a hundred bucks ws I I do find some value 667 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: there because you're looking at one of the best two 668 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: or three coaches in the league and he gets he 669 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: gets i'd say properly criticized for some of his playoff mishaps, 670 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: but I do think it is time in Kansas City. 671 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: If you want to knock his quote unquote playoff mishaps, 672 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: his starting quarterback was Alex Smith. If he was having 673 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: those misapps with Aaron Rodgers, with Roethlisberger with Russell Wilson, 674 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: then I think the criticisms would be a little more valid. 675 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: But he was doing this with Alec Smith, That's who 676 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: his quarterback was in these playoff games. I do think 677 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: the sky is the limit. Now are they gonna win 678 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year? Or do? Do I think 679 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: that's a great bet this year? Probably not? But from 680 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: a value standpoint, why couldn't they sneak up on someone? 681 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: Look what's going on in New England. They're kind of crumbling. 682 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: The Steelers have some issues. Roethlisberger is getting up there 683 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: in age. Who knows if he can play sixteen games 684 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: and he'll be healthy for the playoffs. And Levy on 685 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: Bell is gonna be all in Jacksonville Jaguars at the 686 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: end of the day, their quarterbacks, Blake Bortles, you know. 687 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens have kind of fallen off the map. 688 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: So the f C just isn't that good. If it 689 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: was the NFC, I'd say no chance. But this is 690 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: the a f C. The a f C is a 691 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: flawed conference. So yes, I I do think Vegas is 692 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: sleeping on them a little bit. Good question there, Lone 693 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: Wolf in d T L a again. Go to iTunes, 694 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: leave your questions and we will answer them on the podcast. 695 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. I'll have another podcast out next week, 696 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: basically the day before the draft. Maybe we'll even do 697 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: a special weekend one if some good stuff is going on. 698 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of stuff is obviously gonna be 699 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: going on with the draft picks, but you know, we'll 700 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: keep you updated there. He listened to Three and Out 701 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: with John Middlecoff on the Colin Coward Podcast Network