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Speaker 1: we talked about it. Commander stunned the Lions forty five
Speaker 1: thirty one to advance to the NFC Championship Game. It's
Speaker 1: their first advancement since nineteen ninety two. Jade Daniels threw
Speaker 1: for two hundred and ninety nine yards two touchdowns. Jared
Speaker 1: Groff had a brutal day and this will concern me, OJO.
Speaker 1: When your defense is a little susk with all those injuries,
Speaker 1: the last thing you can do is turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: and you definitely can't turn it over four times. You
Speaker 1: play double. You gave a pick six up, took points
Speaker 1: off the board with Jamison Williams. You gave a short
Speaker 1: field to get another touchdown, and at the end that
Speaker 1: little interception didn't matter. But you still have four turnovers.
Speaker 1: Detroit defense had no answer for Washington's offense. They racked
Speaker 1: up almost five hundred yards of total offense only had
Speaker 1: to punt the ball once. The Commanders will face the
Speaker 1: winner of the Eagles in the Rams game. The Lions
Speaker 1: sens season ends with massive disappointment, and they expect to
Speaker 1: have a huge turnover. It's reported that both coordinators are
Speaker 1: probably going to lead. Ben Johnson being rumored to going
Speaker 1: to the Las Vegas Raiders and.
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn potential the Jets or the Saints.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out, but Detroit will have
Speaker 1: to wait another year. Very disappointing season fifteen wins a
Speaker 1: lot of Pro Bowl players on that side, on that
Speaker 1: football team. Ojoe, Yeah, but the first Super Bowl appears
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions will have to wait another year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, o Joe. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, oh, let me tell you something, man.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 4: I know the Lions lost, and obviously golf has to
Speaker 4: play better. With the defense being held together by Duc Tate,
Speaker 4: basically their third string out there, they have a few playmakers,
Speaker 4: that's pretty much it. Obviously golf has to understand in
Speaker 4: order for you to even have a chance, a winning chance,
Speaker 4: you can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 2: You just can't.
Speaker 4: You can't that first half of football. I tweeted and
Speaker 4: I asked, and a lot of people answered, when was
Speaker 4: the last time we see the half of football that
Speaker 4: exciting and that good where teams were scoring back to
Speaker 4: back almost every it seemed like almost every series.
Speaker 1: Well you saw it. You saw it three weeks ago
Speaker 1: with Buffalo at Detroit. Yeah, you saw it again with Buffalo.
Speaker 4: In and I think, I think in twenty nineteen, if
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, in twenty nineteen, the chief treat man.
Speaker 4: I wish football was like that every Sunday, Hell, every Sunday.
Speaker 4: But the fact that we were able to get this
Speaker 4: treat tonight in the upset that the Commanders put on
Speaker 4: the Lions was absolutely phenomenal. And I want people to
Speaker 4: understand how important it is and why teams invest in
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and why they paid quarterbacks the kind of money
Speaker 4: they paid, because when you get a franchise quarterback like this,
Speaker 4: it turns your franchise around immediately.
Speaker 2: Immediately you have.
Speaker 4: To think, oh, they haven't been in NFC Championship in
Speaker 4: the past thirty three years. Yep, the past thirty three years.
Speaker 2: This is the.
Speaker 4: First time they scored forty five points points, which is
Speaker 4: is a franchise record in the playoffs. Man, Hey, I
Speaker 4: don't even know what to say. I'm so goddamn excited,
Speaker 4: obviously for Jane Daniels for Commanders fans that have waited
Speaker 4: for this for who knows how long, who knows how long,
Speaker 4: just to have just to be in contention, just to
Speaker 4: be able to compete week to week, and now to
Speaker 4: be playing in the NFC Championship at the thirty thirty
Speaker 4: three year hiatus is awesome. Man, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you play double for turnovers, Ocho, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if the team can't capitalize on turnovers. And when
Speaker 1: they turned the ball over Detroit, Washington made them play
Speaker 1: the ultimate plight. He got points out of them every
Speaker 1: time except that interception at the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: O Joe, I don't know. Golf didn't play well today.
Speaker 1: There's no way around it. He didn't play well. He
Speaker 1: got Jamison Williams. I don't know why he would throw
Speaker 1: that post so flat, because the guys in the trail position,
Speaker 1: he's gonna jet it if you throw it playing, he's
Speaker 1: gonna jet it. What we call it chap, we call
Speaker 1: it jetty, but what we mean is that he's gonna
Speaker 1: undercut it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every day, you can't throw the ball that flat.
Speaker 4: You got to old field, ain't put no air up
Speaker 4: under it, yes, and then and then to me, honestly,
Speaker 4: I think the ball was late a little bit.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: I think the ball was a little late, because that's
Speaker 4: the first thing I first thing I tweet. I'm saying, man,
Speaker 4: that ball is late.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: But when you turn the ball over like that, you
Speaker 1: J Daniels man, Hey, I don't know this rookie season
Speaker 1: that he's having. Look, you know, we go back and
Speaker 1: talk about rookie season.
Speaker 2: We saw C. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud unbelievable season. He was rookie of the year. We
Speaker 1: said RG three season, he was rookie of the year.
Speaker 1: But for him to do what because look, we've seen
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks go to the playoff. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think Mark Sanchez went to the playoff. But that
Speaker 1: was a defensive left football team. We saw Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. That was a defensive left football team.
Speaker 1: This is an offensive left football team. Their quarterback is
Speaker 1: asked to do an awful lot a lot and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me do it.
Speaker 2: Whatever you whatever you need from me, I can have
Speaker 2: one as a rookie.
Speaker 4: As a rookie, he's not supposed to be this goddamn
Speaker 4: good this early. Do you see his composure on the
Speaker 4: zero blitz? Yes, three man coming right at him. He's
Speaker 4: sitting there, chilling, just waiting, just waiting. He hit urged twice.
Speaker 2: Yes, so blitz. Yes, the.
Speaker 1: Brown makes an unbelievable catch. Terry McLaury, the ketch him
Speaker 1: with a bomb and the ketchen with a blitz. It
Speaker 1: wasn't blitter because the safety was in the hole. But
Speaker 1: he takes a terrible angle, terrible and McLardy hit the hit,
Speaker 1: the hit the jets on him and then he's gone. But,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, the thing is, we knew this first of all.
Speaker 1: Their pressure team, Detroit a pressure team you begin with.
Speaker 1: We know once they got the lead, now you've got
Speaker 1: to take it. You got to take even more chances. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: let's just catch the ball. They missed a tackle. You
Speaker 1: can hit your head on the goal post. It's a out.
Speaker 1: But and this is what really concerned me, because Jared
Speaker 1: Golf can be great where he goes. We've seen him
Speaker 1: do this, Oh Joe, go eighteen of eighteen for a game.
Speaker 1: We've seen him turn to throw five picks against the
Speaker 1: Houston Texas. We've seen him and they win the ball game.
Speaker 1: We've seen him turn the ball over two times, three
Speaker 1: times in the game, and they win the ball game.
Speaker 1: But you can't turn the ball over against a team
Speaker 1: that's just this explosive on the offensive side of the football.
Speaker 1: When they got playmakers, when you got Ertz, who's a
Speaker 1: three time Pro Bowl player, you got Tarry McLaurin, who's
Speaker 1: going to another Pro Bowl, who's a noun standing receiver.
Speaker 1: And you got guys league exceptional brown making big time plays,
Speaker 1: guys running the football.
Speaker 2: The offensive line.
Speaker 1: When you have a player like a Jaydon Daniels at
Speaker 1: that position, which is the quarterback position, everybody believes in him.
Speaker 2: The offensive line blocks a little harder, guys run, a
Speaker 2: little harder.
Speaker 1: Guys make tougher and tougher catches for you because they believe.
Speaker 2: So, hey, I can't let this guy down. I believe
Speaker 2: in it. The whole team. Now, the defense like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's get the ball back. Now.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it seems like the ball has
Speaker 1: a maginated and it's distracted to the other side of
Speaker 1: the football. I've said this before. You paid double for turnover,
Speaker 1: and when you're I believe Detroit. It was the better team.
Speaker 1: But guess what happened on Joe. When you turn the
Speaker 1: ball over that team that you might be better than,
Speaker 1: and you're up here, you pull them up to your level.
Speaker 4: Even is everything out? Even is everything out?
Speaker 2: Now, they're gonna tell your ass up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they also what I like also with the
Speaker 4: running game, because Jaydon Dails is such a threat similar
Speaker 4: to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's Jackson.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying the fact that he has to be
Speaker 4: to be able to hold when he put that when
Speaker 4: he put that ball in Echoless belly, or he put
Speaker 4: that ball in Brian Robinson's belly, and he make them
Speaker 4: them in sit for just a little bit, allow them
Speaker 4: guards to go up to the second level and get
Speaker 4: that block. Then you're getting five six yards of pop
Speaker 4: every time. Okay, and then you want to crash down
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna take it and go and
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 2: Your responsibility though, that's what I don't get.
Speaker 1: They got it fourth and two, Arnold, that's not your responsibility.
Speaker 2: You have contained. Yeah, your responsibility is contained.
Speaker 1: If he runs for a touchdown on the opposite side, Coach,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you.
Speaker 2: That's not you.
Speaker 1: That's what That's why I couldn't coach Ojo. He knows
Speaker 1: his responsibility. It's contained. Why would you take Ojo? I
Speaker 1: don't give a damn a I would be looking right
Speaker 1: here at my gap. Lord, what about it?
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: They ain't got nothing to do with me. This is
Speaker 1: my responsibility over here. And when you dealing with a
Speaker 1: guy like him, or you're dealing with a guy like Lamar,
Speaker 1: one false step. The man had a coach just to
Speaker 1: tell us all the time. Son, if you hesitate your beat,
Speaker 1: you take one false step against a Jane Daniel, you
Speaker 1: take one false step. Again, it's a guy like Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson or Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Your beat, it's over. You're not gonna You're not going
Speaker 2: to recover and stop him from getting two yards. That's
Speaker 2: why they want.
Speaker 1: You to hold contain, do your responsibility. Nothing in the
Speaker 1: A gap, nothing in the B gap, nothing in the backside,
Speaker 1: a B or outside is your responsibility. You abandon your
Speaker 1: responsibility and you gave up a first down.
Speaker 2: Not everybody looking at you.
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is you got your
Speaker 4: eyes in the backfield on the flake pitch that's going
Speaker 4: to the opposite winning anyway, you wouldn't you wouldn't have
Speaker 4: been able to get there anyway.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do, what you're gonna do, chasing in
Speaker 1: the ends on and have everybody figure that that's your guy.
Speaker 2: That's all you're gonna do, chasing in the ends on.
Speaker 2: They weren't like man Arnold got beat again. Yeah, Ojo.
Speaker 1: If guys would just do their responsibility, whatever that is.
Speaker 1: If you got a gap, o Joe, if that guy
Speaker 1: comes in the outside, that ain't my responsibility. I got
Speaker 1: the a gap Arnold has contained. He must not contain.
Speaker 1: Means nothing gets outside of him? Is it nothing? Hey,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, if i'm if, i'm if I'm security at
Speaker 1: the club, I got the front door. Somebody coming to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want me to do that
Speaker 1: I reponsibility? Hell, you gonna have somebody back there. I
Speaker 1: got the front door. That wasn't they tell viral? Why
Speaker 1: the girl's always coming? Are you in charge of the
Speaker 1: girl's viral? Yeah, I'm in charging the girl?
Speaker 2: Quick? So why the money coming up? Why the money
Speaker 2: coming up?
Speaker 1: Short?
Speaker 2: Girl? You in charge of the girls? Are you a
Speaker 2: hold on? Quick? Are you accusing me of stealing.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying why everybody always accounted for it, but
Speaker 1: the money coming up quickly with the cairl arnold your responsibility.
Speaker 1: But okay, now, because d Q he says, I'm going
Speaker 1: for the death blow, I ain't selling for no field goal.
Speaker 2: I'm going for the death blow. I got this hammer
Speaker 2: in my head.
Speaker 1: I got the momentum and I'm not gonna relinquish it.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you're stopping more for him down, who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe that takes some of the win out of the sell.
Speaker 1: It gives you some momentum. But what do they do?
Speaker 1: They going to score a touchdown?
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff picked the worst time to have one of
Speaker 1: his worst games in his career. You turned the ball
Speaker 1: over like that in the postseason, you're losing probably one thousand,
Speaker 1: probably nine hundred and ninety nine times out of a thousand.
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose a game if you give up a
Speaker 1: pick six, you throw a pick in the end zone,
Speaker 1: you fumble. Look like I said, it was four turnovers,
Speaker 1: he had three. He had three picks and a fumble
Speaker 1: that last one on Joe. The game was basically, I mean,
Speaker 1: you already tell you what you're down fourteen points, so
Speaker 1: you're not coming back. You're not coming back anyway.
Speaker 2: Bro. You cannot play that bad in that moment.
Speaker 1: You're too much of a veteran quarterback to be that
Speaker 1: reckless with the football. And then you Ojo, this is
Speaker 1: why they tell and I get it. I get Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: He's like, this is a big game, this is a
Speaker 1: vision around the playoff game.
Speaker 2: Let me chase.
Speaker 1: But you're not used to chasing, so you don't know
Speaker 1: where those guys are coming from. You See, the thing
Speaker 1: is once ay, you and I somebody get a pick
Speaker 1: the first thing we do.
Speaker 2: Okay, where this thing? Because somebody coming to get you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, every time they coming to get you.
Speaker 1: So I just be okay, hey let me, Hey, let
Speaker 1: me because the one time I didn't do that, I got
Speaker 1: my clock clean.
Speaker 2: The first thing. The first all I can see is.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I mean listen, Cark rule number one. When
Speaker 4: it's an interception and you on the off of the team,
Speaker 4: you keep your heading on a swivel.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're coming to pick you off.
Speaker 4: Hey listen, you pursue, but you keep your headed on
Speaker 4: a swivel because you don't know where it's coming from.
Speaker 1: They can't block back anymore, oh Joe. But if you're
Speaker 1: bringing your ass to the ball, they're gonna knock you.
Speaker 2: And you see what. Yeah, the first thing to hit
Speaker 2: with his back of his head.
Speaker 1: He never thought, he never saw, he never saw him,
Speaker 1: and he put his helmet right up on his mofo cheating.
Speaker 2: I'll talk about I'll talk about right.
Speaker 4: To the kisser and then and then they said that
Speaker 4: there should have been a pillowy called on that play.
Speaker 4: But if you have someone trying to make a tackle
Speaker 4: on the play, why can't you block him?
Speaker 2: Even though it is a quarterback. He had the chance
Speaker 2: to see. It was called the helmet, oh, because.
Speaker 4: He went okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it's funny in Jaydon Daniels also
Speaker 4: tonight again Commander's fan. If you're Commanders fan, you in
Speaker 4: the chat, you you should you should be happy. You
Speaker 4: should be happy. And I said it when the game
Speaker 4: was going on, despite no matter who wins this game,
Speaker 4: if you're a Commanders fan and you know you have
Speaker 4: Jaydon Daniels, you should be happy and excited for the
Speaker 4: next decade because you know what's to come. Yeah, there
Speaker 4: have been five ye quarterbacks that have made a conference
Speaker 4: championship in NFL history in their rookie year. Sean King
Speaker 4: in ninety nine, Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand and four,
Speaker 4: Joe Flacko in two thousand and eight, Mark Sanchez obviously,
Speaker 4: that defense led, that defensive led Jets, Brock Purdy in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, and now Jays Daniels. They but young bullers,
Speaker 4: special man.
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, O Joe, think about
Speaker 1: the guys you mentioned now that ninety nineteen that team
Speaker 1: had John Lynch, Ronde Barberic Warren Sapp and Deck Brooks
Speaker 1: and Simeon Rice. I mean Brooks in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: SAPs in.
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Lynch is in the Hall of Fame. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think Ronde Barber is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: So that's poor Hall of famers. Simeon Rights could easily
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. He has some issues.
Speaker 1: You know, reporters don't really care about it. But that's
Speaker 1: particularly that's a defensive base football team. That's Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: Do I need to say what they had? Suggs, Ray
Speaker 1: Lewis ed reed. Yeah, I won't say anymore. Look at
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez. Look at what that defensive that's a Rix
Speaker 1: Ryan team. That's a defensive based football team. Brock Purty's
Speaker 1: team that was. Look, they had outstanding weapons. They played very,
Speaker 1: very very good defense. They put so much on James date,
Speaker 1: James Daniels plate, and he eats it all.
Speaker 2: He's better than advertised.
Speaker 1: I thought he could be good, but there's always a
Speaker 1: learning curve. And look there and the partner season Joe
Speaker 1: we started. I don't know, Jo bo Nigs might sneak
Speaker 1: in there and get some of that, get some of them.
Speaker 1: A rookie of the Rookie of the year boat he
Speaker 1: took a deep bro.
Speaker 2: Exam and stepped on the gas. Hold my beer, Hold
Speaker 2: my beer, and they look back.
Speaker 1: This kid is sensational and he has that like Josh
Speaker 1: Allen is a build up type of guy.
Speaker 2: He has that. He has that Lamar Jackson acceleration.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he step on it right now, right now.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 4: He's not as fast, but he's fast enough.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but you gotta realize he's thinn too. He
Speaker 1: like he kind of looked like Lamarro when Lamar first
Speaker 1: got into the league. And see Lamar got into the
Speaker 1: got into the weight rooms, started to lifted weight.
Speaker 2: He whipped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he gonna mature, Ojo. He got a
Speaker 1: twenty year He got a twenty year old body. When
Speaker 1: he gives twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, He'll add
Speaker 1: a little tip. He don't need to worry about trying
Speaker 1: to put on that egg, eating a whole bunch of food.
Speaker 1: And you know, creatad know all that he don't need
Speaker 1: to do it. You gouda naturally gained some get some
Speaker 1: of that old man weight as you start to age.
Speaker 2: But there, I don't know what they're not to like
Speaker 2: about this young man.
Speaker 1: He can throw the ball, he sees the field extremely well.
Speaker 1: He's elusive, he has great pocket presence. Hey, and we
Speaker 1: know what he is when he gets the ball in
Speaker 1: his hand. And that's what I'm saying. Think about it.
Speaker 1: There been a lot of guys like Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 1: James Daniels. But guess what, they never got an opportunity
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL because they got mood positioned.
Speaker 1: Remember they wanted Lamar Jackson to move. And I sent
Speaker 1: you a clip. You remember the clip I sent you?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: I said, that he shouldn't move, he should have went higher.
Speaker 1: Oh but you know we're talking about that later day time.
Speaker 1: But this kid right here, oh Joe, it's amazing when
Speaker 1: you put a young man like this and I call
Speaker 1: him a kid, so forgive ma'n he young enough to
Speaker 1: be my kid. We're young at all, my kids. But
Speaker 1: when you take a young man like this, sir, and
Speaker 1: you put him in an environment where he can flourish,
Speaker 1: and you move the bull job around with his Dan Snyder,
Speaker 1: that that cesspool, that cesspool of dysfunction, and you put
Speaker 1: him in Josh Harris group with Magic Johnson and they
Speaker 1: still got h My guy, Doug is still there.
Speaker 2: And you were got where you can thrive?
Speaker 1: Can You ain't got to try to be a rose
Speaker 1: and grow through the concrete.
Speaker 2: You can be in a garden and it's lush and
Speaker 2: it's blush.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's so funny how everything is going right and
Speaker 4: it's so hard. It's it's so hard for organization to
Speaker 4: have everything go right from top to bottom. Obviously management
Speaker 4: has changed ownership GM. Then you have the coaches that
Speaker 4: come in. You got Kling, you got calor Cliff Kingsbury,
Speaker 4: who is phenomenal when it comes to coaching quarterbacks, especially
Speaker 4: due threat quarterbacks like Kim.
Speaker 2: The have dan Quinn. He don't get a job somewhere
Speaker 2: with y'all, Yeah, most definitely. You don't get a hit
Speaker 2: job somewhere, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4: Then you have dan Quinn with his offensive creativity as well.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm sure he has yeah, defensive creativity as well.
Speaker 4: And I think that also might save the goddamn Commanders
Speaker 4: as well, where they sneaking and surprise people because the
Speaker 4: way they're playing offensively, because of their defensive play, they
Speaker 4: might sneak in and fool some people.
Speaker 1: Matt Well, we said, look, they they beat they've beaten
Speaker 1: the Eagles, so they're not and they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: in all of the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Now if I beat you once, I can beat you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: most definitely.
Speaker 1: It's hard if a division rival. We know each other,
Speaker 1: y'all know us, We know y'all. We're not fearful of you.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: Just let I just I just want you to know, yeah,
Speaker 1: we respect you, but we're not afraid of you.
Speaker 4: But listen, can you imagine can you imagine that game
Speaker 4: Eagles Commanders NFC Championship game, And obviously we look at
Speaker 4: the Eagles and what they've done obviously. Last week they
Speaker 4: scored twenty two, they scored twenty point twenty three. If
Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, I tweeted something I said playing
Speaker 4: against the Rams, even though the Rams had maybe I
Speaker 4: think the eighteenth ranked offense during the regular season, I
Speaker 4: kept telling people this is not about the regular season.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not about them talking about the postseason.
Speaker 4: Everything from the regular season it goes out the window.
Speaker 4: New season has started. I said, the Ram to score
Speaker 4: it will, you know? And everyone was focused on what
Speaker 4: in the regular season they were wearing eighteen.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of injuries, Cooper cup Pook pooking,
Speaker 1: the cooling. They had some injuries on that side. On
Speaker 1: the offense side of the football. Higbee was dealing with
Speaker 1: an injury. He came back. I think he came back
Speaker 1: the last two games of the season. That tight end,
Speaker 1: the pants catching tight end. So they were dealing with
Speaker 1: some things, Joe. But if you go back and look
Speaker 1: at them defensively, you look at Verse, and you look
Speaker 1: at Young, and you look at a turner. They got
Speaker 1: guys that can get up your quarterback. They got you know,
Speaker 1: good guys on the back. I'm not saying they're all
Speaker 1: world back in but they're good enough. They're good enough. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, but I like what d Q did. DQ Winging'
Speaker 1: got guys that he's familiar with. Hey, b Wags, you know,
Speaker 1: I coach you all of the All Pro durrence Armstrong
Speaker 1: at Dallas, I had you.
Speaker 2: Come on, Filer, I had you. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: I think he had him in Atlanta. Also had him
Speaker 2: in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Hey come on, Hey, he got those two guys, and
Speaker 1: those two Alabama boys inside Pain and Allen. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Payne within the that I know I saw Alan.
Speaker 1: But they got some guys in there. You know, you
Speaker 1: draft Leveo, you know you get Marshawn Lattimore. You've gotten
Speaker 1: some guys. You know, they got talent on the different
Speaker 1: side of the football, sir. They might not have you know,
Speaker 1: they ain't got no Ay you know, I ain't got
Speaker 1: no Miles Garret or anything like that. But they got
Speaker 1: you know, they got first a draft pick, was a
Speaker 1: top top five, top three, top or big right.
Speaker 4: But you know what, they don't have any dominant players,
Speaker 4: you know, like a Miles Garrett or TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt. But yeah, they played.
Speaker 4: They play together collectively very well. They play together collectively
Speaker 4: very well. Everything messes phenomenally. Well, that's I'm excited. I'm
Speaker 4: excited to see tomorrow's game. And I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't mean to be going off track and talk about
Speaker 4: the Eagles and talk about the Eagles in the Rams game,
Speaker 4: But the Eagles, if the Rams are able to stop
Speaker 4: the run, even though the Rams are undersides up front,
Speaker 4: if they're able to stop the run and stacking eight
Speaker 4: nine in the box, whatever it may be, Jalen Hurst
Speaker 4: has to be phenomenal in the past game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna make Jalen Hurst beat me.
Speaker 4: He has to be phenomenal in the past game. And
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's what they're thinking that on that on
Speaker 4: that side, is we're gonna make Jalen Hurst beat us
Speaker 4: with his arm. The game that they've won, the game
Speaker 4: that the Rams, I mean, the game that the Eagles
Speaker 4: have won. It's when Jalen Hurst has thrown for one
Speaker 4: thirty one forty one thirteen, it's been gained where they've
Speaker 4: dominate on the ground, and I'm sure the Ramps know that.
Speaker 4: So what are we gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let say kwah barklet run for two
Speaker 1: fifty five again. How about that? That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let him have three hundred and two
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. That ain't gonna happen. Now, if jayalen
Speaker 1: Hurst throws the ball for three hundred yards, let's just
Speaker 1: say he has an official day. He throws for two forty,
Speaker 1: he throws for threety four touchdowns. You walk to the
Speaker 1: middle of field, say congratulations, hell of a job. Good
Speaker 1: luck next week. But I tell you what I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do. Damn say kwahd you got us again?
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 2: You hell man?
Speaker 1: Hey, you should be that ain't gonna happen. That's not
Speaker 1: my defense. Ain't gonna be saying that that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to make somewhere.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's different because when you're like, Okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let Lamar beat me, Well you got deack Henry. I
Speaker 1: still believe I would force Lamar to throw the ball
Speaker 1: from the pocket because I let him get outside. O Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm at his mercy rap. Oh yo, what do I
Speaker 1: do I let him outside, O Joe. If I come up,
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw the ball over my head. If I stayed,
Speaker 1: he gonna get he gonna get twenty, he gonna get
Speaker 1: a running start at me. Now, I gotta try to
Speaker 1: tackle this mofoward middle and space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So when you're dealing with a guy like him, like Lamar,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a guy like a Josh Yellow, You
Speaker 1: dealing with a guy like Jaye Daniels.
Speaker 2: You know what, bro, if y'all beat me for the park,
Speaker 2: get take off with it. Because I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't let you have you can't be at least
Speaker 1: I can see you. I can keep you in this
Speaker 1: little space right here. It's difficult, I mean, because you're
Speaker 1: dealing with great players, Lamar Jackson. We believe he will
Speaker 1: be a three time MVP. February sixth, that's when the
Speaker 1: honors is and that's when they're gonna announce the MVP.
Speaker 1: But at least I can keep him in this space.
Speaker 1: I let him outside.
Speaker 2: On yo.
Speaker 1: He throwing the ball to Andrews and likely he got babe, man,
Speaker 1: we don't know if a Jay Flyers is gonna be
Speaker 1: able to play, and now I gotta deal with his
Speaker 1: legs and he all he doing all this hurky jerky
Speaker 1: stuff and he's starting to stop and his spinning on me.
Speaker 1: He got me on his highlight reel. Now, not like yeah,
Speaker 1: see just why he got this, why he was ninety
Speaker 1: nine thanks to me? He don't du me, got me
Speaker 1: on the ground. Everybody esp and everybody run the clips.
Speaker 1: So Joe, man, you let Lamark do what you mean?
Speaker 1: Let hell No, I ain't let her do that. You
Speaker 1: think I let them embarrassment, But the commanders, man, I
Speaker 1: was really impressed. I didn't have them win. I didn't
Speaker 1: put them on my Bengo card to win this ball game.
Speaker 2: I didn't have him win either. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 2: have I didn't have him winning either.
Speaker 4: Just based on what the Lions had done in the
Speaker 4: regular season and how well they played.
Speaker 2: That that's the only thing.
Speaker 4: And I've been saying this all year. I'm at fault
Speaker 4: command of fans. If you're in this chat, I apologize.
Speaker 4: I apologize. I wasn't familiar with y'all game.
Speaker 1: I am not, Oh Joe, But what we didn't couldn't
Speaker 1: predict was the turnovers?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: If now, because think about it, Oh Joe, you gave
Speaker 1: up seven points on your possession. They the Commanders didn't
Speaker 1: even have a ball, and you let him get seven points.
Speaker 2: Points.
Speaker 1: Now you fumbled the ball. Now you took points off
Speaker 1: the board. You A that was I think, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I think that pick was on second down.
Speaker 1: So you got another crack at it and maybe you
Speaker 1: get a touchdown. At least you're probably gonna walk away
Speaker 1: with three. So excuse me. You took points off the board.
Speaker 2: Twice? Yeah, twice.
Speaker 1: And so when you play like that, even at home,
Speaker 1: o ko and I tell people and to come playoff time.
Speaker 2: I would rather be on the road.
Speaker 1: Because you can feel it start to slip away, and
Speaker 1: you can feel like the crowd things on every plate.
Speaker 1: That's like damn ooh, you feel it, you sense it,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 4: Get real quiet, man, get real quiet.
Speaker 1: But hey, I can't say enough good things about what
Speaker 1: the Commanders have been able to do the stable environment
Speaker 1: that Josh Harris, you know, you know magic. Hey Jerry,
Speaker 1: why are you looking all the quarterbacks that you had
Speaker 1: and you ain't been here in a long long time.
Speaker 1: This man did this with a rookie. Think about how
Speaker 1: many quarterbacks you done paid? And all you do is
Speaker 1: y'all I ain't even know if y'all don't. If you've
Speaker 1: never seen Josh Hash, you would never hear knowing heard
Speaker 1: his boys even when they made the playoff. You heard
Speaker 1: what he said he had magic Johnson and there he say, Hey,
Speaker 1: you hire good people. You give him a stable environment,
Speaker 1: and things will blossom, things will flourish. He didn't say
Speaker 1: nothing about him. He doing a great job. He ain't
Speaker 1: say he bought a team to have a bottle of occupation.
Speaker 1: Who pays for a job, Oh, Joe, I paid for
Speaker 1: the job of ESPN. I bought that seat. Who says that?
Speaker 1: Who says they bought an occupation? An arrogant, A very
Speaker 1: arrogant person says that I purchased the job. But okay,
Speaker 1: you're not doing a good job of it, you know.
Speaker 1: But man, the commander, I can't say another good thing
Speaker 1: about them. On Joe, that young kid, that young man.
Speaker 1: They got a quarterback, the number five, he's everything he's
Speaker 1: I know they thought that when they drafted him, they
Speaker 1: thought they saw all this. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: saw it this soon as a rookie. We're in the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. On Joe, Oh Joe, we had a
Speaker 1: second pick in.
Speaker 2: The draft year one though. That's what I'm saying, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: what big changes that they got other than the coach.
Speaker 1: Look at Terry McCaul was there. Yeah, Zach, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, Zach Kurtz was there. So Okay, Auster Deckler
Speaker 1: as cler he he didn't put up the type of
Speaker 1: numbers that he did with the Chargers where he was
Speaker 1: the fantasy darling and he made a Pro I think
Speaker 1: he made a Pro Bowl or something like that.
Speaker 2: Didn't have that kind of enough different here though they
Speaker 2: used him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, they got Brian Robinson, Brian Robinson Junior, I think
Speaker 1: that's his name.
Speaker 2: Or the offensive line is pretty much the same. But
Speaker 2: the turnaround.
Speaker 1: That guy, Yeah, go look at look get the team
Speaker 1: that was in the playoffs what they got, and look
Speaker 1: at the teams that's not the playoffs what they don't have.
Speaker 2: Look at the quarterbacks. CJ.
Speaker 1: Mahomes hurts, Allen Lamar Stafford. You got like overall draft pick.
Speaker 1: I mean the latest you got with Josh with Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurst was the second round pick, Lamar first rounder, CJ
Speaker 1: first rounder, Stafford first rounder, James Daniels first rounder, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson first round. When you get that kind of stability
Speaker 1: at that position.
Speaker 4: Everything else becomes easy when you build around it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Front office, head coach, quarterback changes are all huge for
Speaker 1: the Commanders, but the change in ownership should never be overlooked.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew Daniel Snyder was terrible. Uh and uh and
Speaker 1: you know, hey, it's not a surprise. It's not a surprise.
Speaker 1: Why should be a little to be a flouer or all?
Speaker 1: As he's watching the game tonight, we were talking about
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder. You think he was watching cause because he
Speaker 1: wouldn't sit his meddling ass down. He stayed in the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cause you know him and Jerry, I mean him and
Speaker 1: j J. Yeah, him and Jerry with the right hand
Speaker 1: they did. He wouldn't. He wouldn't stay out the way.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't now he fared the way, he'd never get
Speaker 1: another team.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't allow, man because the owners have the owners
Speaker 4: have to vote on that. They wouldn't allow in that circle.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, not not see. They never released the report or.
Speaker 4: They knew they couldn't do that because a few of them,
Speaker 4: it would have been a few other owners that wouldn't
Speaker 4: have their team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how you make a deal. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire you to do this, but you can't
Speaker 1: release the report. You can't release used to finding So
Speaker 1: why the hell? Why the hell did you?
Speaker 2: Let's move on? Joe? We ain't got to go.
Speaker 1: Say got we ain't got to do that with Yoe.
Speaker 2: O Joe yea for the seventh consecutive season.
Speaker 4: Crazy huh.
Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs find themselves in the AFC Championship.
Speaker 1: Get The Chiefs defeated the Texans twenty three to fourteen.
Speaker 1: The Texas I played the Chiefs on offense and defense
Speaker 1: for much of the first three quarters. But that my
Speaker 1: homeboy's gonna find a way. The man they got him
Speaker 1: going down. He's Superman's it finds Kelsey. But I told you,
Speaker 1: nephew A, he don't have the legs that he once has. Yes,
Speaker 1: but he's a professional, get open guy, That's what Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey is.
Speaker 2: Now. Can he run like he wants? Could No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Had he been able to run like he wants? Could
Speaker 1: he probably have two hundred plus yards today. But he
Speaker 1: can't run like that. But what he can do is
Speaker 1: still get open and he can see things. Like my
Speaker 1: homeboys struggled this year of getting that connection on Joe
Speaker 1: what we have seen them have for the past six years.
Speaker 1: But when it needed it, nowhere and going, and they
Speaker 1: did a great job. They doubled him a lot of
Speaker 1: times on Joe. You see he run across the basic cross,
Speaker 1: They got the safety coming down to.
Speaker 2: Take it away.
Speaker 1: Got they played in and out on him. But look,
Speaker 1: check this out. And I said this before, and people
Speaker 1: like to keep saying. Travis Kelsey is the greatest tight
Speaker 1: end double play. He's number one in playoffs and catches
Speaker 1: over Jered Rice. He's two hundred yards behind Jared Rice
Speaker 1: for the most receiving yards in playoff history. He's two
Speaker 1: touchdowns behind Jared Rice for the most touchdowns.
Speaker 2: In playoff history. Ten Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: He had like seven eight straight one thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 1: No other tight end has more than four has.
Speaker 2: Seven eight straight. Remember o, Joe, he would have had
Speaker 2: another one.
Speaker 1: They made they sat him out last year because they
Speaker 1: had they was already locked into the three season. The
Speaker 1: thing that's most impressive by him. As great as he
Speaker 1: is in the regular season, he's even better than the post.
Speaker 2: And that's not a knock on anybody.
Speaker 1: The two top tight ends for me, of him and Gronk,
Speaker 1: I think it's him and Gronk. I'm taking trial. That's
Speaker 1: not to say I don't like Gronk. I think Gronk
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. His relationship with Brady sec it's just like,
Speaker 1: what what what with my home? But you can't deny.
Speaker 1: You can't deny the numbers, regular season, the Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: the All Pros, the way, big game after big game
Speaker 1: after big Have you ever left a playoff game and say, man, trap,
Speaker 1: let us down.
Speaker 2: Man, he ain't play good today.
Speaker 1: That you I mean, oh, Joe, And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: with the money we shoving all them.
Speaker 2: It's finality now. The playoffs is all about finality.
Speaker 1: It ain't no hey, We'll look at the tape, will
Speaker 1: bounce back next week. Next week is eight months from now.
Speaker 1: This guy has been money one hundred and seventy two
Speaker 1: postseason receptions.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. He's far away. He's not done.
Speaker 1: He has twoenty twenty yards that's second all time. We
Speaker 1: know Jerry Jerry's the gold, not just because of what
Speaker 1: he did in the post in the regular season, when
Speaker 1: you ever see a game, what you say with man, Jerry, Man,
Speaker 1: Jerry let us down in the postseason?
Speaker 2: Man, please, he's two.
Speaker 1: Yards and touchdown. He's a tight end. He's a tight end.
Speaker 2: And he has a.
Speaker 1: Thousand catches and a whole lot of thousand catch guys,
Speaker 1: what is it?
Speaker 2: Ten twelve?
Speaker 1: Oh choke, Yeah, that is it? Is it only what
Speaker 1: I think God's it has the record, he has like
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred. I think Winton has like eleven hundred. And
Speaker 1: I think he's the next tight end. He has a thousand.
Speaker 1: I think Gates had like nine. I think Gates had
Speaker 1: nine maybe nine something, and then everybody else, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of out after me, and but he for me,
Speaker 1: o jo and the most one hundred catch playoff games
Speaker 1: in postseason history.
Speaker 2: Can I interest you in that now?
Speaker 1: That that's a tight end he's won in most one
Speaker 1: hundred yard games he's won and catches, he's two in yards,
Speaker 1: he's two in touchdowns.
Speaker 4: And you know what makes you know it makes most
Speaker 4: of that possible? Too long if you think about it,
Speaker 4: if he was on any other team, it wouldn't be
Speaker 4: the same. No, the production, the numbers, you know, the
Speaker 4: accolades wouldn't be the same. And just the right fit,
Speaker 4: the right offense, the right quarterback, the right play calling,
Speaker 4: the right creativity and everything. The rest take take care
Speaker 4: of itself, O Joe.
Speaker 1: He went to the Pro Bowl with Alex Smith. Oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about this guy like we do now
Speaker 1: until he got my homeboy. Let's be one thousand and
Speaker 1: he was a phenomenal player.
Speaker 2: He was good, Yes, good.
Speaker 1: He got I think he's going to ten straight Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: You gotta be good to go to ten straight. And
Speaker 1: there are times that he had had a kittle not
Speaker 1: had those all world seasons, he might have been another.
Speaker 2: He might have a couple of more first team All Pro.
Speaker 2: It look at bron.
Speaker 1: Bowers had a historic season, but the ten pro to
Speaker 1: ten consecutive Pro bos for a tight end, what he's
Speaker 1: been able to do his body of work. When it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, I think right now it's just
Speaker 1: he and Gronk at the table having a discussion. I
Speaker 1: don't know, boy a bro, we don't need to do
Speaker 1: we don't need to discuss it among ourselves. We will
Speaker 1: let other people discuss. I think it's them two. I
Speaker 1: love them both, watched them both. It's funny they both
Speaker 1: got the same number. Uh both played your you'll probably
Speaker 1: say what it's all said done. They played with the
Speaker 1: two greatest quarterbacks of all time. That definitely, that definitely helps.
Speaker 1: But what he's been able to do, man Like I said,
Speaker 1: he's at this point in time. He doesn't have the
Speaker 1: legs that he once had. He's just a professional guy
Speaker 1: that knows how to get open.
Speaker 2: Very savvy. That's it.
Speaker 4: Very savvy.
Speaker 2: That's it being able to defenses.
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it not only getting open,
Speaker 4: is him and my home be on the same page
Speaker 4: and knowing when to settle. Doe would have settled knowing
Speaker 4: where to be at and every time Manoe.
Speaker 1: If you play Kansas City and you if you play
Speaker 1: a STEVEE. Fagnola defense, Yes, sir. The moment he feels threatened,
Speaker 1: he's coming with the bomb blitz. He finn to blow
Speaker 1: it up. The moment you threaten him, he's coming. Hell,
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 2: How chiefs don't know? I mean, how how the Texans
Speaker 2: don't know that? Bro? They gonna come if you threaten
Speaker 2: him he's coming with the blecks. He gonna blow it up.
Speaker 1: He'll throw caution to the wind. Damn that safety in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I'm coming to get you.
Speaker 1: Uh seven sacks they sacked him seven times. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: they had seven sacks in the fourth quarter, three by
Speaker 1: George No Colopitus, Colopitus.
Speaker 2: He Hey, they got after them. Uh. CJ was back.
Speaker 2: C J was calling him. Look, they did a great job. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think you know what. Colombtus got him early when
Speaker 1: he tackled him out of bound. He got to tweaked
Speaker 1: that a little bit, Yeah, a little bit. But the
Speaker 1: thing is with Kansas City, you know this, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: and I thought Texas did a good job. They didn't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. I thought Joe Mixon ran the
Speaker 1: ball well enough. But they're gonna have to get bet
Speaker 1: on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's that's that's that's that's the next thing they do, now,
Speaker 2: O Joe.
Speaker 1: They got Look tankdal Tankdale's gonna miss some time, Ojo,
Speaker 1: He's gonna miss some time. I wouldn't count on him
Speaker 1: coming back next year early. I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do with Stefan Diggs. If he's gonna take I
Speaker 1: don't think no, you know, nobody's gonna give him that
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars coming off an a cl injury.
Speaker 2: So he might have to take a one year deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to for it to
Speaker 1: be there, I would look at staying there because I
Speaker 1: got a really good quarterback. I got Nico Collins on
Speaker 1: one side. I like Dalton shows at the tight end. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's a bull jove job that you did on that
Speaker 1: past blocking. I ain't say, look it, Bro, I ain't
Speaker 1: saying you gotta be Mark Bavarro or Gronk or George
Speaker 1: Kettle Brother. You can't do that a goomb walle. That's
Speaker 1: some bulljove. Two guys should be able to block a
Speaker 1: running back of the tight end. You'll be able to
Speaker 1: block a defensive mind. Two guys should be able to
Speaker 1: unless it's Reggie or one of the all worlds lt
Speaker 1: something like that. Ain't no way that's you. That was
Speaker 1: That was that's some half. That's a half hearted as
Speaker 1: separat that picked me off.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what what else watching the game? Obviously, uh,
Speaker 4: you know a lot of chirping obviously from some prominent
Speaker 4: figures in the NFL that are part of the NFL
Speaker 4: in general. Uh, talking about some of the calls that
Speaker 4: were made mm hmm and and in favor with the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: And we hear this all the time, especially around the
Speaker 4: postseason time, sometimes it's regular season as well. It seems
Speaker 4: calls are always convenient when it matters most of them,
Speaker 4: to give them whatever it may be, you know. And
Speaker 4: one of the things that bothered me that's starting to
Speaker 4: bother me just a little bit. I love my home
Speaker 4: that I love everything they're doing, and just that Mahomes
Speaker 4: is intentionally playing with defenders to draw somebod these, draw
Speaker 4: some of these.
Speaker 1: So he slowed down and the guy pushed him, like,
Speaker 1: bro you was still in bound. Yeah, he will live,
Speaker 1: he will he went live a boat jokes, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was still in bound.
Speaker 2: Broke. Get your ass out of about it.
Speaker 4: He's doing it on purpose, That's what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: it's forcing the rest to throw flags and they getting
Speaker 4: the rest of starting to get a little jumpy. So
Speaker 4: every time but Mahomes is playing around, he's doing it
Speaker 4: purposely because he's taking advantage of the rules and knowing
Speaker 4: that they could take advantage of it, and he's flopping some.
Speaker 1: Time and the late slide. That was the late slide.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the guy because he got the
Speaker 1: last second he go down. I don't know what you
Speaker 1: want me to do. I've already committed he doing it.
Speaker 1: I've committed to lighting his ass up.
Speaker 4: He's doing it on purpose because he knows he can
Speaker 4: take he can take advantage of the rules. So why
Speaker 4: not now, I'm not sure. It's probably too late now,
Speaker 4: but at some point next year, the Competition Committee or whoever,
Speaker 4: whoever the powers may be, they.
Speaker 2: Need never implement a rule.
Speaker 1: Now when it comes to that quarterback. Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: protect Hey, they're gonna protect him.
Speaker 2: The rule base. This is what was told to me.
Speaker 2: Win in doubt.
Speaker 1: If it's a quarterback throw the flag, I don't care
Speaker 1: if you get it wrong. We will not hold that
Speaker 1: against you. Win in doubt. If it's the quarterback through the.
Speaker 4: Flag, well, I mean he listened. I'm sure to chat
Speaker 4: the chat and the chat. If y'all watch the game
Speaker 4: to day, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not sitting the song and I'm i
Speaker 4: saying that bad New Chiefs are great and all that
Speaker 4: to do. Patrick mahomes one of the best efforts. He
Speaker 4: taking advantage of the rules a little bit.
Speaker 2: Just just joke a little bit. Can ask your question, sir.
Speaker 1: We heard the same thing when Tom Brady and the
Speaker 1: Patriots were winning.
Speaker 2: It was the referee. We heard the.
Speaker 1: Same thing, Oh Joe, And we saw Tom Brady get
Speaker 1: a call. Chris Jones hit the man in the shoulder pad.
Speaker 1: They said he hit the man in the head. He
Speaker 1: didn't touch his head. Yeah, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: phantom calls. It happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh they called him playing a pillowy tonight. Oh Montgomery,
Speaker 1: that man ain't touching Montgomery's face.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, oh he had, but then you know it
Speaker 4: and because his head went back boom.
Speaker 2: But she has to understand. Remember we see it.
Speaker 4: We see it in LIW motion is seeing it in
Speaker 4: in real real times.
Speaker 1: His head, his head does this and it looked like,
Speaker 1: oh he grabbed his face.
Speaker 2: Man, that man they touched that man face.
Speaker 4: Right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: And you thought that flas you shouldn't be allowed to
Speaker 1: say face or masks the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 4: But listen, man, But I think.
Speaker 2: The biggest call what got him.
Speaker 1: Is that when Mahomes overthrew Kelsey and Will Anderson hit
Speaker 1: him in the chest and they thought he hit him in.
Speaker 2: His chain and they couldn't They couldn't reverse it.
Speaker 4: No, they couldn't reverse it. If somebody and hey, listen,
Speaker 4: ma Homes sold it now?
Speaker 2: Yes? Good?
Speaker 1: When what would Brady do? Every time they would hit
Speaker 1: Brady somewhat late? He turned to look at the official.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Hey, Broy, you're not gonna do anything about day, You're
Speaker 1: right right, right right, but hey, hey, look at look
Speaker 1: at hey. How many times you ever saw the official
Speaker 1: come to the sideline and talk to any other player,
Speaker 1: Like the official went to the sideline and talked to
Speaker 1: Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen that.
Speaker 1: I have never seen an official come to the sideline
Speaker 1: and talk to a player, say look, because he could
Speaker 1: have threw a flag all that yelling. They threw a
Speaker 1: flag on Tom Brady one time, but Tom was probably
Speaker 1: mfinem Normally they throw normally they throw a flag on you.
Speaker 1: You know, you keep yelling, they tell you, you know,
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, you need to calm down.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I've seen it a few times.
Speaker 2: I've seen it with Brady.
Speaker 4: I've seen it with Josh Allen and then basketball I
Speaker 4: saw with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the thing, oh joe. The Texas are
Speaker 1: the first team in NFL postseason history to outgain an
Speaker 1: opponent by one hundred yards, have zero turnovers and lose.
Speaker 1: Prior to today, teams were forty nine and zero in
Speaker 1: such games.
Speaker 4: Special and boy, special, man.
Speaker 2: They just know how to win.
Speaker 1: And there's an expectation when you've been in this situation,
Speaker 1: you got to beat them. Yeah, how many times it's
Speaker 1: normally not a you gotta beat You had to beat
Speaker 1: Tom convincingly.
Speaker 2: You had to beat him convincingly. You the only thing
Speaker 2: you don't want to have happened.
Speaker 1: You didn't want Tom to have the ball with a
Speaker 1: chance to beat your ass who late in the ball game.
Speaker 1: You want a you want to be taking a knee
Speaker 1: because it's the same thing with my home. You don't
Speaker 1: want them to have the ball late with the ball
Speaker 1: in his hand. And I will say this about the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, you get the ball to start your offense
Speaker 1: on the thirteen yard line and you kick a field goal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next week you're going home. You do that again. You
Speaker 1: do that against Buffalo or Baltimore. You're going home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going home. They got the ball again and they
Speaker 1: set up for another field goal.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the text is gonna do with
Speaker 1: the kicker, but it's a good chance they're gonna probably
Speaker 1: be on the market for another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right here if they need one. I don't
Speaker 2: know what they gonna do with it. About Joe.
Speaker 4: Listen, you heard what I said, if they need a kicker,
Speaker 4: I'm right here.
Speaker 2: I mean in one of the kicks, that first kick
Speaker 2: wasn't even closed.
Speaker 4: Nah, oh that went why, I'm right, yes, are like,
Speaker 4: what are we doing in a game?
Speaker 2: In a game like that were it didn't even say
Speaker 2: if you're poring, O Joe? Do you know how deflating
Speaker 2: that is? O Joe.
Speaker 1: Now we're about to tie the game up, and I
Speaker 1: look like, yeah, bro, hey, nice run, Hey, nice run, Joe.
Speaker 2: That rum mixed? Hey want to put them in the
Speaker 2: blend to mix? Blah blah blah. And then you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: yeah about the tide this thing up? Oh man, damn.
Speaker 4: Take the win right out your seals went right out,
Speaker 4: your sales.
Speaker 1: I mean you trying to put it. You try to
Speaker 1: pull them problems. That's okay, that's okay, We're good. No, bro,
Speaker 1: we up behind if we if they don't do anything else.
Speaker 1: If we don't do anything else, we lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ah man uh oh Joe. There's been a lot said
Speaker 1: about the refs, the refs favoring the Chiefs. The Textans
Speaker 1: spoke about it after the game. Let's take a listen
Speaker 1: to what CJ had to say.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the stays are tough. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna go back and forth on what I thought
Speaker 5: was a call when I thought it was in a call,
Speaker 5: you know, And you know, it's one of those things
Speaker 5: you kind of know what's up before you even walk
Speaker 5: in the arena. And we got to be better and
Speaker 5: just being accountable and sound and you know some things,
Speaker 5: you know, And I think we had a couple of
Speaker 5: calls and we're a called that I'm begging for it,
Speaker 5: but at the same time, it is what it is,
Speaker 5: you know, Like I can't argue with the ref and
Speaker 5: at the same time play football.
Speaker 2: I gotta go and do my job.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would say, you know, it's definitely some
Speaker 5: things that I would question but at the same time,
Speaker 5: I mean, they're the professionals, are getting paid to be refs,
Speaker 5: and you know they did talt to me their best
Speaker 5: and yeah, but you know that's kind of thing. You know,
Speaker 5: it's us against the world, you know, when you're playing
Speaker 5: in these type of environments and games.
Speaker 2: I got a question. I got a question.
Speaker 4: If everybody keeps saying the same thing every year in
Speaker 4: regular season, every postseason, would have come to the chief
Speaker 4: questionable calls, calls that are always convenient, and it's seen
Speaker 4: they always side for the teas. At what point are
Speaker 4: the people right and there's not an excuse made every
Speaker 4: single time. If someone's always seeing the same thing all
Speaker 4: the time, you know, if there's smoke, there's fire. If
Speaker 4: there's smoke, there's fire somewhere, everybody can't be wrong about it.
Speaker 4: The coaches said, The fans said, sometimes the people in
Speaker 4: the chat may say it. The people that don't agree
Speaker 4: are the people that are actually Chiefs fans.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, I'm I don't.
Speaker 2: Have a horse in this race.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I see questionable things that happen at
Speaker 4: times that favor the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Did you see questionable calls with Kobe. Did you see
Speaker 2: questionable calls with Michael.
Speaker 1: Jordan, Yes, sir, okay, you saw question becall with Brady
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 4: Oh so okay, so you know what it is, Okay, long,
Speaker 4: I do want to make sure we're on the same page.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a listen with what Joe Mixon had
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 6: Everybody know how it is playing up here. You can't
Speaker 6: you can never live you can never leave it into
Speaker 6: the rest's hands. But I mean the whole world, see man,
Speaker 6: like what it is, bro.
Speaker 2: But that is what it is.
Speaker 6: You know, like I said, when it comes down, so
Speaker 6: you can't never leave it into the ref's hands, man,
Speaker 6: and things like that.
Speaker 2: But saw.
Speaker 1: Big Lombardi, I know, Big he right out of he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm done, mahole. Can't get separate route. Vict see vicked.
Speaker 1: He's from Denver.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. See, so every everybody can't be blind to
Speaker 4: the fact. Now, not everybody, the player said. The coaches said.
Speaker 4: People from the outside that are prominent figures, like I
Speaker 4: said earlier in the NFL, that had been watching the
Speaker 4: game for a very long time.
Speaker 2: And they can see it now.
Speaker 4: I see it sometimes as a former player, occasionally, not often,
Speaker 4: but most of the time, but they do get calls.
Speaker 4: The costs are warranted when I see it in little motion. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know what the fans might say, that's some bull dye.
Speaker 4: But as a fan me actually as a player and
Speaker 4: a fan of the game, now, okay, that was warranted.
Speaker 2: That's really a call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I see, I thought yo, But we see,
Speaker 1: we you and I. We discussed it every week.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I mean the guys laying on the quarterback personal fiul, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm like with that. So what you want me to do?
Speaker 1: You want me the ladys more fo down. I ain't
Speaker 1: fit to put I'm not finish. Put him in bed
Speaker 1: hold on. Now.
Speaker 4: You know sometimes D linemen and D tackles that not
Speaker 4: only do they attackle you when they take it to
Speaker 4: the ground, you know, they putting all their weight on
Speaker 4: you too.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, but something but oh, I see guys try
Speaker 1: to try to put their hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I trying to drop my weight on it, and
Speaker 2: they still throw the flag. They're gonna protect the quarterback
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 1: And I get it, and I get frustrated too because
Speaker 1: sometimes I see it. I'm like, bro, that's not a penalty.
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta let the guys play at some
Speaker 1: point in time. But they have been told, if there's
Speaker 1: any doubt in your mind and it's on that guy,
Speaker 1: throw the flag.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, throw the flag. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny is even without the goddamn calls
Speaker 4: in favor of the Chiefs, they will still be winning
Speaker 4: these games.
Speaker 2: That's call.
Speaker 4: They will still be winning the game because when it
Speaker 4: matters most and fifteen has the ball in his hands,
Speaker 4: he's going to make it happen in ninety nine point
Speaker 4: nine percent of the time.
Speaker 2: And a whole lot. I'm I'm excited for him. I
Speaker 2: would love to see him. Three pete, I would love
Speaker 2: to see him. Three pet I would love.
Speaker 4: It because I would love to see Mahomes Andy Reid
Speaker 4: because we.
Speaker 2: Never go we probably never go to see it again.
Speaker 2: O Joe, see it again. We're gonna Steelers in seventy
Speaker 2: nine had an opportunity. They didn't get it done. Dallas
Speaker 2: had an opportunity.
Speaker 1: They lost in the conference championship because they won ninety
Speaker 1: two ninety three, they lost ninety four to forty nine,
Speaker 1: and they came back and won again in ninety five.
Speaker 1: San Francisco had an opportunity. They won eighty eight, eighty nine.
Speaker 1: They lost in the championship game to the to the
Speaker 1: Giants in ninety Yeah, Green Bay sixty seven, what sixty
Speaker 1: seven sixty eight they lost there. We probably never It's
Speaker 1: so hard, oh Joe. It's so because because this is
Speaker 1: why you've seen more three peats than other sports, the
Speaker 1: other major sports, the basketball or the hockey, the baseball,
Speaker 1: because it's a series. In football, it's one game, O Joe,
Speaker 1: one bad game, Josh Jared Goff had one bad game.
Speaker 2: It's over you going home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about it. Michael Jordan, first championship, they lost
Speaker 1: game one. If that had been football, he.
Speaker 2: The lost home. Yeah, but they went for straight. They're
Speaker 2: the champs. See, that's why it's so hard.
Speaker 1: That's why when people say football, because you get one
Speaker 1: chance and it's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's over. Show you got to show up that.
Speaker 2: Day, that that day, that day.
Speaker 4: As much as I'd love to see i'd love to
Speaker 4: see my home make history and Kelsey.
Speaker 2: Boy, we have a real Salies conference. You know how
Speaker 2: to start. You're talking about.
Speaker 4: Absolutely know it, But I really I really want to
Speaker 4: see that young bull got that raven on his helmet
Speaker 4: that win them eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing is old Joe. I think if
Speaker 1: he were to unlocked this and get there the pressure, I.
Speaker 2: Can see him winning another two.
Speaker 1: I can see him winning three and five years because
Speaker 1: the pressure will be off it.
Speaker 2: He get an opportunity to play free free.
Speaker 4: You can read not that he's not playing freely now,
Speaker 4: but it's it's it's a different it's a different kind
Speaker 4: of free.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Because I got that championship, I got something y'all can
Speaker 1: y'all can't say, well, he couldn't win the big game, y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all can never y'all can say a lot. Y'all can
Speaker 1: never say I wasn't a champion. You can't never say
Speaker 1: I wasn't a champion. And once you become a champion,
Speaker 1: you get that taste. It's like that's why you know
Speaker 1: a lot of times animals they put them down on
Speaker 1: yo once they bite something or because they got that
Speaker 1: taste in the mind.
Speaker 2: Ah Man and boy a.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, he met f Rid and get a super
Speaker 1: Bowl and now he gonna play free.
Speaker 2: Blood help us.
Speaker 4: Ally'll got hell.
Speaker 1: I just want y'all to know, y'all got hell on
Speaker 1: your hands. I'm just just put it out there. Oh
Speaker 1: they taking a storm on Twitter. Steve Spagnolo has an
Speaker 1: argument to be the NFL's first ever assistant coach to
Speaker 1: eventually be a Hall of Famer because, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think he wasn't he the Giants.
Speaker 2: DC when they knocked off Brady?
Speaker 3: He was?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 1: So ask check that wasn't he? I think he was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was Fag's So this he's got five.
Speaker 1: So if he was the Giant, if he was the
Speaker 1: Giants DC old seven and O eight. So he got
Speaker 1: the first one with the Giants. He wasn't there for
Speaker 1: the second one. Okay, he got the first one with
Speaker 1: the Giants. Think about it. He pulled the biggest upset
Speaker 1: in NFL history. He's a defense Tom Brady them at
Speaker 1: that point in time, they had scored the most points
Speaker 1: in the single game, they had the highest scored average.
Speaker 1: He held him the seventeen points below the average. Brady
Speaker 1: was the first ever unanimous MVP. Fifty touchdowns, eight interceptions,
Speaker 1: forty eight hundred yards. He held him to seventeen points.
Speaker 2: That was that seven year old. No, he held him
Speaker 2: to fourteen points.
Speaker 4: That was that Old seven season with Moss. Huh, yep,
Speaker 4: well it was hey, they was on that year.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: Commanders Win as a Commanders Win has a current and
Speaker 1: former cowboy great going at it. On Twitter, oh Dance tweeted, first,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn, do it? What dan Quinn is doing in Washington?
Speaker 2: Jerry? Everybody needs to go, including Zam.
Speaker 1: I knew Washington was going to be successful because of
Speaker 1: DQ Danz.
Speaker 2: Why you keep saying Jerry?
Speaker 1: Jerry had an opportunity to hide dan Quinn and he
Speaker 1: kept Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: So when are you gonna I understand you have.
Speaker 1: A great height, I understand your relationship with Jerry, But
Speaker 1: where you're gonna put this at Jerry feet? Because that
Speaker 1: guy didn't take a job because he thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna get the job, and then once it became abundantly
Speaker 1: clear Jerry was gonna drag his feet, he.
Speaker 2: Took another job. What you want that man to do?
Speaker 2: I ain't feel to be no damn coach.
Speaker 1: You're waiting for the rest of my life, keep passing
Speaker 1: up an opportunity and after opportunity, why Jared swing his feet?
Speaker 2: Hell?
Speaker 1: Now, Trey jed dinsw from now on, I'll speak truth
Speaker 1: about my Cowboys, good or bad. Jerry has built a
Speaker 1: great brand, that's all he's done brand, and now it's
Speaker 1: time for the team to start winning. It's time for
Speaker 1: a real culture ship. I'm filling with all this nepotism.
Speaker 1: Get someone in there who can win games. Hold on,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hold on about what you mean. That's
Speaker 1: what they are bringing, that's what this is what you
Speaker 1: mean to start winning culture? You can't have culture dance
Speaker 1: Bright win your owner doing what he does.
Speaker 2: You got you know where culture starts at?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: You know, oh, you know what culture starts at. That
Speaker 4: that start from the top.
Speaker 2: Coach. You don't start from the coach. Culture start from
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 1: Afore you go ahead, Father Michael Farson responded, stuff that
Speaker 1: irritates me. Dance because you had enough. You had enough,
Speaker 1: he was felling. He put a tea in front it.
Speaker 1: But I know what he meant. You had enough talent
Speaker 1: and was probably one of the greatest in your time.
Speaker 1: You could have changed the culture, brother, you could have
Speaker 1: changed the culture.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 4: Wait, wait a minute, now, wait now, Michael.
Speaker 1: Parson, what does the front office have to do with
Speaker 1: players action? And players be responsible for their actions? Dead
Speaker 1: shot back. I had to double back because you really
Speaker 1: said I could have changed the corfor culture. Emphasized that
Speaker 1: as if you don't know, I was never on a
Speaker 1: yes man political ass kicking kissing ish. I sacrificed myself
Speaker 1: so a lot of you could do what you do.
Speaker 1: I'm on some ish way deeper than football. You're really
Speaker 1: too young to understand. You realize that soon you need
Speaker 1: to do more people like don't give an f for
Speaker 1: the better up of the athletes. The way I talked
Speaker 1: to Jered was the way versus the way you talk
Speaker 1: to Jered is totally different.
Speaker 2: And to sink in, come on now, you say you
Speaker 2: like that. You told me you liked when the players
Speaker 2: beat truth.
Speaker 4: Hey, you what you like that? I like that shit?
Speaker 4: You see what you get from dance. Now we can
Speaker 4: get now, we can get all the players, even the
Speaker 4: active players, to start talking their truth. But Dad's always
Speaker 4: been dead since they won that dare, they never changed Dais,
Speaker 4: They never can for him, there would never PC. So
Speaker 4: what you're hearing from here now is nothing new. That's
Speaker 4: always been him.
Speaker 2: I don't believe.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you can have a culture as long
Speaker 1: as Jerry is the owner. Yeah, because what happens is
Speaker 1: you need one voice. That voice needs to emanate from
Speaker 1: the coach. If I can circumvent anything that the coach,
Speaker 1: any authority that coach have by going to his superior,
Speaker 1: how does the how does the coach lay a foundation
Speaker 1: to establisha culture. The thing that they know in New England,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody going to Bob Kraft, Mr Kraft and circumvent anything.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick.
Speaker 1: I had a great relationship with mister bowling man. I
Speaker 1: wish I would have took my happy black ass upstairs, say,
Speaker 1: mimster bee, let me tell you whatbody talking about.
Speaker 2: He gonna look at me like sharpy, what you want
Speaker 2: me to do? Nothing? Don't tell him.
Speaker 1: I came up here to your office to tell you.
Speaker 1: Let's start with let's start with that. Let's keep this
Speaker 1: between us. The thing was is that when you have
Speaker 1: one voice, now that takes a lot. Well, where is
Speaker 1: this coming from? Who is this coming from?
Speaker 2: See? Here's the thing, oh, Joe, the problem they're having cowboys.
Speaker 1: They know when Mike mccarths are standing in front of
Speaker 1: them that Jerry's talking, he's moving his mouth that. But
Speaker 1: Jerry is you know, he's your pedal. Yeah, when Mike
Speaker 1: Shanahan stood up there and talked, that's him.
Speaker 2: That was Mike. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also he gave us to remember, now, bro, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. What's your weight? Okay, bring your
Speaker 1: answer up? Beat make weight right? Hey, I'm there guy. Hey,
Speaker 1: go get on the bike. It ain't but two pounds.
Speaker 1: Go get on the bike for ten minutes. Hey you good.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to drop that. Bro, Go get
Speaker 1: in the hot tub.
Speaker 4: Two pounds need to go get in the same Yes, yes, yes, bro,
Speaker 4: that's our responsibility. Bro.
Speaker 2: Clean up.
Speaker 1: Come on, Bro, how you here the laundry basket right there?
Speaker 1: You gonna throw the towel on the floor. Bro, Really,
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna do. You can't get your I
Speaker 1: mean the tower right there by you, and you just
Speaker 1: leave the tower in front of your locker.
Speaker 2: You leave the top, bro, Come on now, bro. Clear.
Speaker 1: Mike gave us the authority to police the locker room.
Speaker 1: We established the culture that I had adopted from the
Speaker 1: older guys, from the Dennis Smith and the Steve Atwaters
Speaker 1: and the Max and the John, and hopefully that my
Speaker 1: job was to try to pass that on.
Speaker 2: That's what you gotta have o Joe.
Speaker 1: The guys that when you see Ray and the way
Speaker 1: you conduct yourself and he's watching the way would in
Speaker 1: how we do things myself and Rod hopefully he passed
Speaker 1: that along and the.
Speaker 2: Culture was established.
Speaker 1: And so now you get an air reading you gotta
Speaker 1: sucks and you got guys like that, that's what you
Speaker 1: play like a raven. They're never gonna have that because
Speaker 1: Jerry won't allowed with, Jay want allowed with.
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of things transpire. Hold on, there are.
Speaker 1: A lot of things that happened once I left. I
Speaker 1: mean once I leave about you. I just tried to
Speaker 1: do try to put the guys in the best situations
Speaker 1: as I possibly could to be successful. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things going on, a lot of dealings that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have tolerated. It's the guys, we got to
Speaker 1: be professional and all that other stuff. That's just the
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that to tear the fabric from a
Speaker 1: locker room. You know that somebody's people, and then you
Speaker 1: try to go behind their back and you trying to
Speaker 1: do no, no, no no, that is how.
Speaker 2: We do stuff right here. I don't go for that. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why you try to
Speaker 1: do that? Why you mad at him about trying to
Speaker 1: see some girl and you married?
Speaker 2: How did that look? I'm confused. I'm like, bro, that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm talking just like I'm talking to you. Bro.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. How you mad at
Speaker 1: him talking about that's your girl? You mad with three kids?
Speaker 2: That's real? That haven't for real? He look here, bro
Speaker 2: O Joe, let me tell you that's a good I
Speaker 2: kept the peak. That's my job. My job was not
Speaker 2: only to play.
Speaker 1: My job was to keep the piece and keep stuff
Speaker 1: like that because that would tear a locker room apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, And that ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 2: with football.
Speaker 1: Ain't got nothing to do with football. We're gonna keep
Speaker 1: football football, That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: You're while I get winning this right here, because you know,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, he gonna get
Speaker 1: mad at you. You doing things to try to sort
Speaker 1: him up. He go tell your wife, Oh now what now,
Speaker 1: y'all you're gonna want to fight. Why you fighting a
Speaker 1: man that's single about seeing somebody you married and you
Speaker 1: try to get at her? Come on, bro, it don't
Speaker 1: work like that. You get one, you get one, you
Speaker 1: get your wife, you get your main one. You can't
Speaker 1: put you can't take three or four off the chef
Speaker 1: and put them in the back, you know, like foot locker. Oh,
Speaker 1: y'all you got a boy working to Hey, put a
Speaker 1: pair of shoes in the back, fas. No, you get one,
Speaker 1: you get to put one on the lf, and everybody
Speaker 1: stay away from other than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fair game.
Speaker 1: It's fair game. So you not finna hide four five
Speaker 1: pair of shoes. We're gonna say were selling their shoes broke.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it one five with y'all. But that
Speaker 1: was But see, that's the that's the job of a
Speaker 1: leader is to keep the piece in the locker room
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of things that can eat
Speaker 1: at the fabric of a locker room that ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do with football. It ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with money. Hey, we'll keep money out of this.
Speaker 1: Look all that gamblet look like, like Mike said, like rookies.
Speaker 1: We didn't really let a whole lot of rookies gamble
Speaker 1: because first of all, y'all ain't got that kind of money.
Speaker 1: And you're right, and we can't have Mike saying, look,
Speaker 1: I can't have y'all out there, y'all ow y'all four
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars and you're thinking about that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so look no, no, come on, guys, But that culture
Speaker 1: thing is true. People don't realize it. People don't realize
Speaker 1: how valuable culture is in a locker room until you
Speaker 1: don't have that veteran leadership in there and you get
Speaker 1: guys running them up, doing all kinds of things, and
Speaker 1: then you're like, well, damn, I realized that Sharp had
Speaker 1: more value. He was valuable. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: just on the field, because what Mike didn't realize until
Speaker 1: I left a lot of things that I snuffed out
Speaker 1: never made it to him. He didn't no issue about it, right,
Speaker 1: But that's what veterans do. That's what leaders do. You
Speaker 1: come together, You say, hey, bro, what's really going on?
Speaker 1: What's the problem? Okay, you got a problem at home? Okay,
Speaker 1: how can we help? What's going on? What I mean,
Speaker 1: what does she think you're doing?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: You cannot you cannot go out and come in at
Speaker 1: three four in the morning?
Speaker 2: What homeboy? You got? So what you're telling them?
Speaker 1: You can't tell her I'm out hell cause I don't
Speaker 1: even go out with my own homeboys and coming in
Speaker 1: three four in the morning. I tell Bucket, I you
Speaker 1: tell Bucket all the time. No, bro, you're not finna
Speaker 1: mess up my home. Hey my homeboy in town can Hey? Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: come on, Bucket, you not finna mess up my home.
Speaker 1: Got me coming because you want to come in at
Speaker 1: three four in the more? Oh hell, no, no, bro,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I'm not gonna tell you, you
Speaker 1: grown ass man, but I'm not gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: you can and what I'm gonna tell you what you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do. I can't tell you what you can't do
Speaker 1: because you're grown. But I'm gonna tell you what your
Speaker 1: shouldn't do, and if you want peace, if you want,
Speaker 1: because at some point time, Mike gonna wonder why you're
Speaker 1: play slipping, why you seem distracted, why you keep busting assignments,
Speaker 1: why you're not where you're supposed to be. And then
Speaker 1: eventually he Mike sayn had I see. I ain't tell
Speaker 1: you like oh Michael, Michael eat five million, six million dollars,
Speaker 1: he will cut your ass.
Speaker 2: So I just want to know what you how you
Speaker 2: how you want to play this thing? Man shop man.
Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate that, bro, I appre I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming to me, but I can't keep Mike off your ass.
Speaker 1: You keep making these kind of mistakes because I can
Speaker 1: only lie so much. So hey, hey, for what's going
Speaker 1: on with such and such? You know everybody we went by,
Speaker 1: you know, we go by numbers. Hey, for what's going
Speaker 1: on with such and such? Huh, I'm pretending dumb, I know.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, Huh what you mean? Mane he seem he
Speaker 1: seemed distracted. I mean Mike started practicing. Mike stop practice, Dude,
Speaker 1: blew an assignment. He's like, Hey, what the hef.
Speaker 2: You do last night? Dude? Had to think about it. Nothing.
Speaker 2: We'll get your head out of your U know what? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Youffing up?
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, that's that's funny how you say this, Because
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about me from from from my personal
Speaker 4: experience when I have outside issues even when I was playing.
Speaker 4: When I was playing, they didn't affect me because my
Speaker 4: outlet and my sense of peace was being in practice.
Speaker 4: And then once I touched that green grass in between
Speaker 4: those white lines, everything that's going on in the outside world.
Speaker 2: It went away.
Speaker 4: And that's crazy how you said players allowed what was
Speaker 4: going on the outside to affect them on the field
Speaker 4: when I couldn't wait to get to the field. Because
Speaker 4: then that that gave me my senseem Finally I feel
Speaker 4: I ain't got to worry about that bullshit.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing though, Oh Joe, maybe you didn't.
Speaker 1: As soon as we get a little five minute break,
Speaker 1: they run to the phone. Oh, they in the They
Speaker 1: in the corner. They are outside on the cell phone.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Well you can't get away from it because you bringing
Speaker 2: it in. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I ain't play that, boy, I could.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, guys, you can't get away from
Speaker 1: the dog poop if you step in it and bring
Speaker 1: it in the house.
Speaker 2: Leave it out there. Wait a minute.
Speaker 5: Who wha, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 5: whoa whoa.
Speaker 4: Hold on you think you slick boy, You're finna get
Speaker 4: You're finna get ready with that one, broy.
Speaker 2: I could use that one on the kids. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: that's the ojo. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times because the guys
Speaker 1: to see the guys saw the way I conducted myself
Speaker 1: that I always tried to be professional because.
Speaker 2: I know people watching. Yeah, I knew the guys were
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 1: But as an older player, Oho, and even though even
Speaker 1: though I was young, I was in my twenties early twenties,
Speaker 1: I thought of myself as a leader because the way
Speaker 1: I conducted myself.
Speaker 2: I wasn't out at night. I knew what I had
Speaker 2: to do new.
Speaker 1: Once I learned the offense thanks to John, Once I
Speaker 1: knew what I had to do.
Speaker 2: Oho.
Speaker 1: I love the response of it because I've always been
Speaker 1: responsible college my last couple of years in high school.
Speaker 1: But culture is a big I guarantee. You check the
Speaker 1: teams that's winning culture. I'm not saying there one hundred
Speaker 1: percent as far as guys not being late, check their culture.
Speaker 1: Go look at the Ravens, Go look at Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Look at the teams that win consistently, and even when
Speaker 1: they hit a rough patch, that's when you tell That's
Speaker 1: when you'll find out a lot about your culture. You
Speaker 1: don't really find out about it when you win it.
Speaker 1: It's when you hit those rough patches. You see how
Speaker 1: they did Zeke. They make it seem like Zeke had
Speaker 1: never been late before. But what happened was they were
Speaker 1: tolerating things and wins they couldn't do it or loss.
Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna let thee go. Y'all would let the
Speaker 1: man go? Oh so he can catch on with another team.
Speaker 1: Where did do that at? Oh Joe, they can't fool me.
Speaker 4: See, sweet, you would have had you would have had
Speaker 4: fun playing with me. You you would have fun. Could
Speaker 4: your magic be was on the same team?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I had
Speaker 2: you right? Oho, o Joe?
Speaker 4: What I was the friends in the stadium that I
Speaker 4: was different that I'm I guarantee.
Speaker 1: You, huh, Jeordan screaming out, Oh Joe, I guarantee you huh.
Speaker 1: Had I been your teammate, Yeah, you've been a first ballot?
Speaker 1: Who you'd have been the first ballot? Shit, I am
Speaker 1: first ballot. You'd have been there, You'd have been up there,
Speaker 1: you would have been in winning. Hold on, I went
Speaker 1: in there, you the winning the twenty you played elevel years.
Speaker 1: You came in and oh one, you came in oh
Speaker 1: two o one oh one? Yeah yeah, cause you called
Speaker 1: it a little cheap tao. I think you about to
Speaker 1: call it a little something on us. Uh yeah, my
Speaker 1: last year in Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Oh ways, oh way, you know I sliced you all
Speaker 4: up every time, whatever
Speaker 1: The volume,