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Speaker 2: Living the dream once again here on what is the

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Speaker 2: should be. All right, we have six games kicking off

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Speaker 2: right now to start off the Sunday, Browns at the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: Vikings at the Lions, Jaguars at the Titans, Falcons at

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Speaker 2: the Saints, Buccaneers at the Panthers, and when I miss one,

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Speaker 2: oh well, anyway, Jets of the Patriots. All right, So

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Speaker 2: we got six games going on right now, Rich and again,

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Speaker 2: there are so many different scenarios to play out to

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Speaker 2: figure out who the final two teams in each conference

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Speaker 2: will make it into the postseason. Right now, in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: and see five teams are in the playoffs, and the

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Speaker 2: AFC have the Ravens, Dolphins, Chiefs, Texans, and Browns. And

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Speaker 2: in the NFC you have the forty nine Ers, Cowboys, Lions, Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and Rams. Now there's division titles on the line. There

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Speaker 2: are wild card spots around so and by the way,

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Speaker 2: can we if you look at all these playoffs scenarios,

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Speaker 2: they include ties. Do you know me? Ties there have

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Speaker 2: been this year in the NFL as far as I know,

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Speaker 2: Nuns zero and it will not be a tie today.

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Speaker 3: Just stop giving me playoffs scenarios, let's say, or if

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Speaker 3: there's team.

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Speaker 2: Ties, there will be no ties today.

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Speaker 3: The NFL, as we've seen, just go ahead and see

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Speaker 3: the film on Detroit Dallas. They will do anything they

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Speaker 3: can to prevent outcomes they don't want. I don't think

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Speaker 3: they want a single tie today. I don't think that's

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Speaker 3: an outcome that they're really searching for, So I don't

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Speaker 3: expect it. And also, like you said, it's a rarity

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Speaker 3: any ways that games go to overtime. It's not gonna happen,

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Speaker 3: not this weekend. But there are a lot of games

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Speaker 3: with enormous implications, none more important than Jacksonville, Tennessee. We

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Speaker 3: saw the Titans, or excuse me, we saw the Texans

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Speaker 3: beat the Colts last night. The Colts had an opportunity

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Speaker 3: on that fourth and one, the incomplete pass to the

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Speaker 3: running back, and so they lose the game to the Texans.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud in his rookie year, Demiko Ryans in his rookie

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Speaker 3: year as a head coach. They find a way to

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Speaker 3: earn a playoff berth and now they wait to see

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Speaker 3: if they're going to be division winners, because if the

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Speaker 3: Titans knock off the Jaguars, all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 3: the Texans in the four seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is at quarterback for the Jags. Despite that

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Speaker 2: ailing shoulder, he knows what's on the line today again

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Speaker 2: at Jags victory, they are in as division champions. We're

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Speaker 2: watching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the road against the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. Baker Mayfield and company. They need to win

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Speaker 2: today to clinch a division title. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: was mentioning this yesterday, I mean, when we talk about

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Speaker 2: the Buccaneers and the surprising season, they've had too many

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Speaker 2: to be in a position one game away from clinching

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Speaker 2: a division title. All the talk has been on Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: How come anyone's talking about Todd Bowles, dude, I mean,

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Speaker 2: no mention of him.

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Speaker 3: It's really amazing what Todd Bowles has been able to

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Speaker 3: do because if you look at that offense, and maybe

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Speaker 3: it is a stay away situation, he says, Look, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to handle the defense and the offense is going

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Speaker 3: to be coordinated independently and let Baker cook whatever. That

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Speaker 3: defense has been pretty sound, and that offense, in Baker

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Speaker 3: Mayfield specifically, has had an incredible season. You no, don't

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Speaker 3: get me wrong. When you look at the record. They're

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Speaker 3: eight to eight this season. They're fighting for their ninth

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Speaker 3: win today. It hasn't been perfect, but way way better

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Speaker 3: in the aftermath of the Tom Brady era in Tampa

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Speaker 3: Bay than anybody could have ever expected for a quarterback

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Speaker 3: who they were considering to just be a bridge guy

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Speaker 3: while they were getting Kyle trask up to speed. Well,

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Speaker 3: Trasky has been on the bench all season long, Mike

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Speaker 3: Evans has had a career year as he's aging, and

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield has rejuvenated this offense.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday the Houston Texans did it. They went on

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Speaker 2: the road against the Colts, a winner take all game

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Speaker 2: in terms of making it the postseason, and they are in.

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Speaker 2: They're in. I mean, with all the great coaching jobs

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Speaker 2: that Sean Payton. Obviously, Sean McVay has done a great

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Speaker 2: job this year. A lot of coaches have done a

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Speaker 2: great job. But Dimiko Ryans, it's unbelievable. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: So remember the Bryce Young trade? What Carolina gave up

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Speaker 2: to move up to number one to get Bryce Young?

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young? They moved up to get Bryce Young. Keep going, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: moved up to trade and now their pick ends up.

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Speaker 2: You know, they have the number one pick in the

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Speaker 2: hands of the Chicago Bears. When you think about what

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Speaker 2: Demico Ryans took that job, a job where they had

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Speaker 2: one and done coaches three consecutive years, yep. And he

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Speaker 2: was a hot commodity defensive coordinated with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people considered him a prime candidate, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, why would he take this job? Now? I

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Speaker 2: know he had roots with the Texans organization, he had

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Speaker 2: a certain presence in the community. But talk about handed

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Speaker 2: a bad hand to start. We even had the speculation

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Speaker 2: could he look back on this decision and regret it

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Speaker 2: based on the track record of the ownership just firing

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Speaker 2: coaches after a single year that team won ten and seven.

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Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers, who by the way, their two wins

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Speaker 2: are by a combined four points, they could literally be

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Speaker 2: winless this year, are about to go probably two and

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Speaker 2: fifteen with Bryce Young and CJ. Stroudo's ten and seven

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Speaker 2: without having to give up all those number one picks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it really is one of those turning points

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Speaker 2: they are today.

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Speaker 4: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud, by the way, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have an offensive rookie of the year

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Speaker 3: and a defensive rookie of the year.

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Speaker 2: How do you choose between c J. Stroud and Pokin Nakua? Sheez?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, because Kinnakua is setting all

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Speaker 2: these receiving records for rookies. He made the Pro.

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Speaker 3: Bowl, by the way, if you think about it, from

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Speaker 3: this Pro Bowl, by the way, it means nothing to me.

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Speaker 3: It never has, I mean with set records, but the

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl specifically, the record is meaningful to me. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and obviously his gameplay is meaningful to me. Pooka and Akua,

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Speaker 3: I'm not underrating what he's done because he's made a

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. He deserves it, and in fact, so does

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Speaker 2: Stroud. Yeah, the fact that.

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Speaker 3: He isn't a Pro Bowler is nauseating to me because

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Speaker 3: without c J. Stroud there is absolutely no way the

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Speaker 2: Ironically, in the AFC where he had two a Toungue

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Speaker 2: Bailoa and Lamar Jackson make the Pro Bowl, c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud has had a better year than Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding. That's the reason why the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: is still stupid. It's always been stupid. It is a

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Speaker 3: and there's still contract incentives associated with it because of

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Speaker 3: the high profile nature of the Pro Bowl event. Remember,

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Speaker 3: even though the Pro Bowl has really diminished in value

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Speaker 3: in terms of viewership, it still beats every single regular

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Speaker 3: season NBA basketball game. They don't even have a game anymore. No,

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Speaker 3: it's two hand touch and a skills competition. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, they're adding tug of war this year. No, right,

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Speaker 3: the way, we're gonna have a We're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: hopscotch competition and cornhole coming up next year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but but do you get my point?

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Speaker 3: Like, the Pro Bowl still outrates and from a viewership standpoint,

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Speaker 3: so that's the reason why there's still gravitas around making

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Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl and all those things that we know

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Speaker 3: that the contract incentives, et cetera. But I digress on

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Speaker 3: that point to say this, when we're looking at players

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Speaker 3: does you no good because this is a perfect example

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Speaker 3: of a year where c J. Stroud, if we're talking

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Speaker 3: about the top three quarterbacks, c J. Stroud should have

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Speaker 3: been in the conversation and Patrick Mahomes should not have been.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, he had a better year. The amazing

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Speaker 2: stat with everything that c J Stroud this year, he

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Speaker 2: went into yesterday's game with five interceptions. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks. What if Peyton Mammy, I like twenty six

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Speaker 2: if you think about CJ. Straud adt Ohio State, right,

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Speaker 2: everybody's open. His wide receivers are better than any team

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Speaker 2: guys aren't open, No, And you have to understand, you know,

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Speaker 2: when did not force the ball at the maturity level.

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Speaker 2: And I get back to his relationship with Demico Ryans

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Speaker 3: To take control back it up immediately. I'm so glad

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Speaker 3: you mentioned maturity because he's the type of quarterback who sees.

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Speaker 2: The whole game. Yep.

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Speaker 3: And it's so so damn important because it's tough to

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Speaker 3: so insanely difficult. Then to even be like tolerably good

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna get Belichick fired tomorrow. No, because a

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Speaker 2: lot has to be worked out. He just signed a

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Speaker 2: contract extension. Yeah, so if he's leaving, there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot of finances that got to be figured out

436
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Speaker 2: before he walks out the door, because I guarantee you

437
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Speaker 2: he ain't walking out the door until he gets every

438
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Speaker 2: penny of what he deems that he earned. Well, I

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Speaker 2: guess say with that contract extension, because we never get

440
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Speaker 2: the specifics of these coaches contracts in the NFL, we

441
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Speaker 2: always guess how much somebody makes.

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Speaker 3: The estimation is that Belichick signed a contract that's netting

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Speaker 3: him twenty million dollars a year, Correctkay, So that's the

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Speaker 3: educated guess on his contract amount. If say he signed

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Speaker 3: a contract for the next three seasons, I don't know

446
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Speaker 3: how long this extension was for but maybe it's two seasons.

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Speaker 2: Right.

448
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Speaker 3: You owe this man forty million dollars potentially sixty Do

449
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Speaker 3: you think Bill Belichick is going to leave a dollar

450
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Speaker 3: of that on the table, oh of court?

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Speaker 2: Nor should he. And by the way, I can tell

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Speaker 2: you why he won't.

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Speaker 3: My guess is it has a lot to do with

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Speaker 3: the fact that whenever he's been pushed on about how

455
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Speaker 3: bad this season has gone about you know, Mac Jones

456
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Speaker 3: and you know his his regression and some of the

457
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Speaker 3: issues that have happened in New England, he'll reference, well,

458
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Speaker 3: what happened over the past twenty years, you know. So

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Speaker 3: if Craft comes to Bill and says, hey, I want

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Speaker 3: you to resign, or hey I want to fire you,

461
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Speaker 3: but I want to do it for less money, He's

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Speaker 3: going to say, well, hey, Bob, what about the last

463
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Speaker 3: twenty years. I don't think they're going to get out

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Speaker 3: from under this contract. And that's why I think he

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Speaker 3: remains in New England.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

467
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Speaker 2: And she once again came up big with all the

468
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Speaker 2: guys around here by delivering the Wow breakfast burritos.

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Speaker 7: It was more for me, really, I needed it. And

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Speaker 7: then you guys.

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Speaker 2: Just see, we're the benefactor of your cravings.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Christopher was like, what have I done to get

473
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Speaker 8: this a second week in a round.

474
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Speaker 7: It's like, you did nothing.

475
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Speaker 2: I needed it, all right, So Saturday nights it suddenly

476
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Speaker 2: as you're kicking out the new year or exactly where

477
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Speaker 2: they ended up last year. Yes, yes, exactly where you

478
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Speaker 2: need to make a taco bell run early in the morning, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we got we gotta soak up the hangover with

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Speaker 3: a little with a little TB.

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Speaker 2: Yes, breakfast burrito.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I had some sugary cocktails and I kind

483
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Speaker 8: of felt it this morning.

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Speaker 7: I was like, Oh, that's what that is.

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Speaker 9: Isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news is we don't have ten games

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Speaker 2: like last week's. Six is America. This is cake.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna start with the Falcons because they just took

490
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Speaker 8: the lead Vjon Robinson Desmond Ritter connecting for a seventy

491
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Speaker 8: one yard touchdown pass.

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Speaker 7: So Atlanta has taken the lead over the Saints.

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Speaker 8: It's fourteen to seven, four minutes to go in the

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Speaker 8: first quarter. The Buccaneers, you guys mentioned they can clinch

495
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Speaker 8: their third straight NFC South title with the win against

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Speaker 8: the Panthers. They are scoreless with a little over a

497
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Speaker 8: minute to go in.

498
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Speaker 7: The first quarter.

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Speaker 8: The Jets on the scoreboard first against the Patriots. They're

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Speaker 8: up three zero two minutes to go in the first.

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Speaker 8: The Titans are beating the Jaguar seven to three. Jags

502
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Speaker 8: can win the AFC self title with a win, but

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Speaker 8: right now, Titans on top seven to three. Late in

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Speaker 8: the first Sam Laporta, of course gets a touchdown pass

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Speaker 8: from Jared Goff.

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Speaker 7: So the lines are on top against the Vikings seven.

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Speaker 8: Zero late in the first, and the Bengals are beating

508
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Speaker 8: the Browns seven zero late in the first as well.

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Speaker 8: JJ Watt did tweet an update of his brother TJ Watt.

510
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Speaker 8: He said, it's a best case scenario. It is a

511
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Speaker 8: gray two mcl spraying that he suffered, that everything else

512
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Speaker 8: looks pristine. So just a couple of weeks of rest

513
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Speaker 8: and recovery for TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt.

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Speaker 7: His brother tweeted back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, and Pittsburgh still waiting to find out if

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Speaker 2: they're going to make it in the postseason. We will

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Speaker 2: play out all their different scenarios.

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Speaker 7: Are complicated, so you play it out. It's complicated.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do one at a time. And again

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Speaker 2: I will never use the word tie yes, because again

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Speaker 2: there are no tops. No there are so either this

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Speaker 2: team wins loses. Yes, what what if one like? What

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Speaker 2: if there are ties? There are not gonna be any ties?

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Speaker 2: What there are no ties? Ifl there was zero this year,

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Speaker 2: there will be zero today. So any scenario that has

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Speaker 2: a tie.

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Speaker 3: But did you know this a New Orleans win plus

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Speaker 3: a Tampa Bay tie against Carolina, I don't that gets

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Speaker 3: New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to cut you off right now. They win

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Speaker 2: the NFC South, all right, mon see, we'll check in

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Speaker 2: with you a little bit later on Once again, this

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 2: How about this start for Desmond Ritter and the Falcons.

544
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: They just scored again. He's five for five for one

545
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven yards and two touchdown passes through

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Speaker 2: a seventy one yard bomb to be John Robinson. So

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Speaker 2: five for five, one hundred and fifty seven yards, two touchdowns,

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: no picks. That's a perfect pass rating, obviously, and again,

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Speaker 2: the winner of this Falcon Saints game wins the division.

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Speaker 2: If the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lose, that's right, that's very simple,

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Speaker 2: or no tie the Carolina Panthers. I don't hear anymore

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Speaker 2: dies now in the NFC. I'm looking at the standings

553
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Speaker 2: and I see Green Bay, yes has the tie break

554
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Speaker 2: over Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Right, so this gets this gets a little okay, So

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Speaker 3: the Packers can clinch a playoff berth if green Bay wins.

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Speaker 2: If Green Bay wins, they're in done. That's all you

558
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Speaker 2: need to say. A green Bay tie plus the Seattle

559
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Speaker 2: loss no tie plus the New Orleans loss or tie,

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Speaker 2: or green Bay ties plus the Seattle loss plus Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay loss or Green Bay tye plus Seattle Tay lost

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Speaker 2: or tie.

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00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: Lost plus Tampa Bay loss or Minnesota loss or tie

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Speaker 3: plus Seattle loss plus New Orleans without using the word

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Speaker 3: tie explain to me how the seven to nine Vikings

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Speaker 3: make the playoffs, Okay, without using.

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Speaker 2: The word tie.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota win, yes, plus a green Bay loss plus a

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Speaker 3: Seattle loss plus a Tampa Bay loss.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they need a lot of help. They need help.

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Speaker 2: We've seen far fet scenarios like that. That's all I need.

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Speaker 2: Just eliminate ties. Who needs I just found another scenario?

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Speaker 3: Or Minnesota wins, they beat Detroit, green Bay loses to

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Speaker 3: the Bears, Seattle loses to the Who's Seattle playing?

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Speaker 2: I guess they're playing?

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Speaker 3: They have to play the Cardinals, yes, and then New

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Speaker 3: Orleans loses to the Falcons. Okay, okay, so those are

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Speaker 3: the geez I guess eight scenarios that need to come

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Speaker 3: to fruition four a piece in order for the Vikings

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Speaker 3: to get a playoff for.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, between Atlanta, Tampa, and New Orleans, Okay,

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Speaker 2: one of those teams is gonna win the NFC South.

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Speaker 2: We just played that scenario. Are any of those teams

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Speaker 2: in the running for a wild card at eight and nine?

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Speaker 3: Atlanta Tampa, we we obviously could get an eight to

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Speaker 3: nine wild card in the NFC. Oh yeah, so one

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Speaker 3: of the you know two of those teams could be

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Speaker 3: at eight and I'm just figuring out.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I like, if the Saints win today, I think because

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Speaker 3: the city, but the Saints are of the vikings right

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Speaker 3: the scenes.

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Speaker 2: So let's say, but the Tampa wins and they clinch, right,

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Speaker 2: there is Saints win to get to nine and eight, right,

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Speaker 2: do they have a chance at a wild card? No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, because you have the Packers who will

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Speaker 3: be well, the Packers have to win, yeah they well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess they do have to because.

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Speaker 2: The Packers would go to eight nine if they lose

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Speaker 2: at home to the Bears.

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Speaker 3: So the wildcards as they currently stand are the Eagles, Rams,

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Speaker 3: and Packers.

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Speaker 2: Correct. But if the Packers lose, they go down to

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Speaker 2: eight and nine. Correct, Seattle lose, they be eight to nine.

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Speaker 2: Of the Saints win, they'd be nine and eight. They're

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Speaker 2: a wildcard team, yeah, they would, So they would need

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Speaker 2: to have even if Tampa Bay wins to win the division.

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Speaker 2: If the Packers and Seahawks lose and Saints win, Saints

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Speaker 2: are in as a wildcard. They are in as a wildcard.

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Speaker 2: So you could have a nine win team as wildcard. Correct.

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Speaker 2: But you could also have an eight win team also

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Speaker 2: could potentially have an eight one. By the way, we've

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Speaker 2: never had a wildcard team with a losing record. We've

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Speaker 2: had division winners with losing records, but we've never had

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Speaker 2: a wildcard with a losing record.

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Speaker 3: Which I mean, welcome to the NFL in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, this is only going to become

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Speaker 3: a little bit more nauseating and stomach churning when they

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Speaker 3: expand this league's games to eighteen. You're going to see

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Speaker 3: more opportunities for teams with losing records to get in,

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Speaker 3: not less. So it's just the name sure the beast.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you increase the regular season, you do dilute the

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Speaker 3: product in certain ways, and so we're going to see

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Speaker 3: more of this, not less of this.

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Speaker 2: All right, the Steelers are in if either the Bills

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Speaker 2: or Jags lose. Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are in at ten and seven heny the

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Speaker 3: Bills lose or the Jags lose.

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Speaker 2: You're moving pretty fast. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: All right, so they beat Baltimore, so Buffalo loss gets

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Speaker 3: them in automatically. That's a playoff berth or Jacksonville loss

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Speaker 3: or tie.

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Speaker 2: Right, now here's the scenario for the Bills. So we

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Speaker 2: know they're going to Miami tonight. Yes, and the winner

635
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Speaker 2: of that game wins the AFC East. Correct, But the

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Speaker 2: Bills could actually miss the playoffs entirely. If they lose

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Speaker 2: and Jacksonville wins, the Bills are out. Correct. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: if they lose and Jacksonville wins, they're out.

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00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: They're out now they clinch a playoff berth if Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: just loses today correct or obviously if they if they.

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00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: See the aff they tie. Yeah, it's very simple scenario. Again,

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Speaker 2: the only matters here the Bills. The Bill's Miami game

643
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: determines who wins the East. If the Bills lose and

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Speaker 2: the Jags win, the Bills are out. Yes, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: If the Jags win, they win the division. The Texans

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Speaker 2: then would be a wild card team.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question, because this is gonna

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Speaker 3: be the Sunday nighter in my opinion, outside of this,

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00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: this uh Tennessee excuse me, this Houston Texans Colts game

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00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: we saw last night, or this gosh, what is the

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Speaker 3: game of Super Consequence today that I've had my eye

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Speaker 3: on all morning and I can't remember it? Now, but

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Speaker 3: I'll get back to that. This Bill's Dolphins game like

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Speaker 3: that to me, oh, obviously what we're looking at with

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay and with the Saints playing the Falcons, like

656
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Speaker 3: the NFC South can be won this morning. So those

657
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Speaker 3: are the really super consequential games, those four games, the Saints, Falcons, Carolina,

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. What we saw last night with the Texans

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Speaker 3: and Colts. Obviously the outcome of Jacksonville, Tennessee. Oh, I

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Speaker 3: mentioned that, and then tonight with the Dolphins and Bills.

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Speaker 3: That game to me, I like the Dolphins offense. I

662
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: think Mike McDaniel has created the perfect mouse trap. And

663
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: all this playoff clinching scenario has now made me cross eyed.

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Speaker 3: My brain hurts, but he's created this perfect offensive mouse trap.

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Speaker 3: I think it's an incredible offense. But I do not

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Speaker 3: trust that team in big games. I just don't they

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Speaker 3: beat Dallas. It's like, well, you want to sound the alarms,

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Speaker 3: like the Miami Dolphins has figured it out. Dallas can't

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Speaker 3: beat anybody on the road this season. So I didn't

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Speaker 3: trust Dallas to win that game. We had a bet

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Speaker 3: on pizza last weekend that you know, So it's one

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Speaker 3: of those games where I know everybody's super psyched to

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Speaker 3: see a competitive football game, and it may end up

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Speaker 3: being that way, but I could I could see the

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Speaker 3: Bills blowing the doors off of Miami for the second

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Speaker 3: time this season, and this being quite an anticlimactic end

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Speaker 3: to the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Here all right, two teams that had nothing to play

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Speaker 2: for this week, of the teams that are at the

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Speaker 2: top of each conference, the forty nine Ers and the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: A decision made by both franchises that could hurt their

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Speaker 2: chances in the postseason. We'll tell you about it. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 1: Snap to Ritter Daz, look's.

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Speaker 10: Gonna throw cart Pasjon Robinson midfield forty thirty five thirty

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Speaker 10: twenty five to twenty ten, fop, strike up the band.

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Speaker 1: Oh he did, and he took it to the house.

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Speaker 10: No flags on the play, and but Jon Robinson just

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Speaker 10: went seventy one yards ninety.

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Speaker 2: Two to nine in the game the Falcons Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Falcons taking the fourteen to seven lea, but the Saints

692
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Speaker 2: had answered back. They have a first and goal right

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Speaker 2: now at the Atlanta four yard line, looking to tie

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Speaker 2: up this game. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: tire Rack dot Com studios. It just doesn't get much

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Speaker 2: better than this. I mean, we've got, you know, these

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Speaker 2: games that mattered today. By the way, Bengals up fourteen

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Speaker 2: to nothing on the Browns. It's sort of a mailing

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Speaker 2: game for the Browns, I believe today, and they're acting

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Speaker 2: a lot of The Lions up thirteen to nothing over

702
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Speaker 2: the Vikings. Again, a Lions win coupled with the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: and Eagles losing, and the Lions would be the two

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Speaker 2: seed in the NFC. Now, Rich, the one seeds were

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Speaker 2: decided last week will be the Ravens and the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers, and both teams deciding to rest their quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in week eighteen. Now, the Ravens game yesterday, the weather

708
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: was bad, so you know the last thing you needed

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Speaker 2: was Lamar Jackson get hurt in the rain. And as

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Speaker 2: far as brock Pretty is concerned, he's also going to

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Speaker 2: sit out the forty nine Er game today. But I

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Speaker 2: go back to twenty nineteen in the Ravens. Talk to

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Speaker 2: me when Lamar Jackson won his last MV award, And

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Speaker 2: you remember that team not only had the best record

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. They were just blowing people away. They

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Speaker 2: were they were juggernauts.

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Speaker 1: They were.

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Speaker 2: Nigh even more so that year. And they decided to

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Speaker 2: rest Lamar Jackson and then they had the bye week

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Speaker 2: go ahead, and then they went down. I believe it

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Speaker 2: was the Titans took him out.

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Speaker 3: I believe you're correct. Yeah, it was out. And by

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Speaker 3: the way it was, it wasn't. It wasn't even close

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Speaker 3: to a competitive game for the Titans dominated this. The

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry ran all over The Ravens scored three points

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Speaker 3: in the game.

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Speaker 2: So you've been down this path before John Harbor and

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, and you're deciding we're going to do the

729
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Speaker 2: exact same thing. Gotta stick to it, got it. It

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Speaker 2: didn't work that time, but it's going to work this time.

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Speaker 3: I'll be damned if we don't have success this time

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Speaker 3: this time.

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Speaker 2: And the same thing with brock Perty in the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers. So you're the only team in each conference

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Speaker 2: to get the luxury of a bye week. Sure, but

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Speaker 2: now you're giving yourself two by weeks.

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Speaker 3: Two by weeks meaning three weeks between games where you

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Speaker 3: actually are playing a full squad, and you're going to

739
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Speaker 3: be playing a team that is coming off a win

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Speaker 3: and momentum, momentum coming off a win, and familiarity with

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Speaker 3: the grind of the game week. Like, Look, humans are

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Speaker 3: very simple creatures, right, if you give a human a

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Speaker 3: task for long enough, Like I'll give you an example

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Speaker 3: and then I'll bring it back to what we're talking about. Like,

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Speaker 3: there are videos circulating around the internet now where there's

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Speaker 3: like little kids who in their sleep they're they're scrolling

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Speaker 3: on their iPad like like, because the brain is so malleable,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're younger, but in general that whatever environment

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Speaker 3: you give it, it'll adapt to it.

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Speaker 2: So if the.

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Speaker 3: Environment you're giving the player, the brain of the player

752
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Speaker 3: is every week, we got to prepare for battle. Every week,

753
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Speaker 3: we got to prepare for battle. We're going out there

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Speaker 3: and we're getting guns of black. It's all out for

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Speaker 3: three hours, let's rock and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you give the brain a break. You give a brain

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Speaker 3: a two week break after it's gone balls to the.

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Speaker 2: Wall and you're playing a team emotionally pumped up because

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Speaker 2: they just want a playoff game. See that's my thing.

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Speaker 3: I hate the idea of not letting you now Don't

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Speaker 3: get me wrong, you can look awfully foolish if Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson rolls an ankle. Don't get me wrong, Rock Berdy's

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Speaker 3: playing with the surgically repaired elbow. What if something happens

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Speaker 3: to the shoulder of the elbow. Okay, like you know,

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Speaker 3: so all of.

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Speaker 2: A sudden, Tom Brady, in all his years of the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: go on, how many times had they clinched the division

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Speaker 2: going into the final week? You know how many times

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady sat out the final game? Zero zero? He

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Speaker 2: made a play half a game.

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Speaker 3: But he was on the field every single time.

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Speaker 2: I'm more supportive of that.

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Speaker 3: Now I understand the psychology around head coaches who are

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Speaker 3: nervous about starting their players least for a half, at

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Speaker 3: least for a quarter and in four in uniform, get

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Speaker 3: a sweat break, a sweat feel, the competition and the

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Speaker 3: energy of a game day. Because, like I said, the

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Speaker 3: brain is malleable. The brain can change quickly. Habits don't

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Speaker 3: take very long to form. They say it all the time.

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Speaker 3: You want to form a good new habit, like eating right,

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Speaker 3: starting a new diet, kicking cigarettes, whatever it may be. Well,

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Speaker 3: the first two weeks are going to be a struggle

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Speaker 3: and then you get.

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Speaker 2: Used to it. Well, how about the habit of not

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Speaker 2: playing football on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is going to miss two weeks and then

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Speaker 3: he's gonna go out there and try to get it

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Speaker 3: going in the first round, the divisional round of the postseason.

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Speaker 2: So the Browns decided to take the week off, right.

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Speaker 2: They have Jeff Driscoll at quarterback. He's two of five

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Speaker 2: for five yards and a pick. They're down twenty one

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Speaker 2: to nothing already to the Bengals mailing in this game.

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Speaker 2: Jake Brownie has done a great job in relief of

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Speaker 2: the injured Joe Burrow nine of eleven ninety one yards

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Speaker 2: and a couple of scores. But the Browns they feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we could take the week off. Now they are playing

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Speaker 2: next week. But still Joe Flacco, it's not like he's overworked.

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Speaker 2: How many games did he play four? Uh? Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: a month maybe five. The guy's sort of in a

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Speaker 2: rhythm right now. No, I get it.

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Speaker 3: But Joe, I mean during that primetime thing, he's on

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Speaker 3: the couch right now.

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Speaker 1: Last start of the season, you remember he was napping on.

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Speaker 3: Primetime like I just like they were like listen, Uncle Joe,

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Speaker 3: we need you to take a nap.

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Speaker 2: I am the Big Circle this day. See how some

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Speaker 2: of these teams that took the day off fair in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Much more coming up. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, rolling along Week eighteen, final day of the

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Speaker 3: regular season in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We're broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the ti rack dot Com studios. Ty rack dot com.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna help get you there and I'm Matt's selection

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Speaker 3: One team that needs to win today is losing. That

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Speaker 3: would be the Jacksonville Jaguars. They are trailing the Titans

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Speaker 3: fourteen to ten right now, six and a half minutes

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Speaker 3: to go in the first half of this game. Trevor

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Speaker 3: Lawrence did start and is playing well. He's nine of

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Speaker 3: twelve passing one hundred and thirty two yards. He has

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Speaker 3: a touchdown pass in this game.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised though, that Tennessee showed up, because that

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Speaker 2: is a reflection of their coach, Mike Vrabel. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry off to a fast start, seven carries, sixty

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Speaker 2: three yards and a score averaging of a mere nine

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Speaker 2: yards of carrie. So you know, Tennessee, you knew at

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Speaker 2: home was going to show up today. Oh yeah, certainly

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Speaker 2: not going to lay over for Jacksonville. By the way,

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Speaker 2: when you think about where Jacksonville was and where they

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Speaker 2: are now. So they had a four game losing streak

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Speaker 2: snapped with a win over the hapless Panthers last week.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is on one hundred percent, but he's playing

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Speaker 2: well today. But you know, this team was sitting at

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Speaker 2: eight and three, I mean they were sitting pretty and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the wheels started following out

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Speaker 2: where are we with this Jacksonville team? Because remember we

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Speaker 2: were talking about this team when it got to eight

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Speaker 2: and three, like, well, we really don't trust them quite yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: have they really made strides from where they were a

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Speaker 2: year ago? Are they suddenly plawing maybe to a point

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Speaker 2: where you're saying, how much better will the Jaguars be?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's like a huge amount of

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Speaker 3: reason to panic just yet.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: If they lose this game, obviously that's that's uh that

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Speaker 3: mars the reputation of Trevor Lawrence of Doug Peterson because

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Speaker 3: after a playoff berth and even though it was a

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Speaker 3: disappointing first half against the Chargers last year, they roared back.

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Speaker 3: They won that game. They handled the Chiefs for about

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Speaker 3: three quarters and then the Chiefs were stunningly able to

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Speaker 3: pull that game out against the Jackson in the divisional

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Speaker 3: round in Arrowhead. So last season propels this season. You

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Speaker 3: assume it's going to be a much better year. And

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Speaker 3: really offensively, that's where the struggles have been. The defense

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Speaker 3: has been the strength for the Jags all season. It

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Speaker 3: faltered at times. You know, there definitely were moments early

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Speaker 3: December or I should say mid December, there were times

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Speaker 3: where you were like, hey, where is that Jags defense

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Speaker 3: that's carried them? And I think that's the reason why

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Speaker 3: this team looks so shaky down the stretches because you're like,

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Speaker 3: all right, so the offense hasn't been great or underwhelming

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Speaker 3: comparatively to last year, the defense, which carried them this

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Speaker 3: season looked shaky down the stretch. That's the reason for

867
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: the unease because you have to have a strength going

868
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 3: into the playoffs and right now, I mean you don't

869
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: really have one.

870
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: If you're Jacksonville. Well, Jacksonville down fourteen to ten and

871
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: the Titans are on the move. They have a first

872
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: down in Jacksonville territory, trying to add to their lead.

873
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: Best game so far Falcons and Saints. They're tied to

874
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: fourteen to five and a half minutes they go. It's

875
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: a very simple scenario here. The winner of this game

876
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: wins the NFC South. If the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lose today,

877
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay right now is leading the Panthers.

878
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: Three to nothing, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, they

879
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: are struggling against a very.

880
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: Since the worst offense ever the Carolina Panthers. I mean,

881
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the scores. They're only two wins this year.

882
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: They beat the Texans at home fifteen to thirteen, and

883
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: they beat the Falcons at home nine to seven. Yep,

884
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm counting how many times they were under twenty points

885
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: this year one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

886
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: eleven twelve games. Twelve of their fourteen losses they've scored

887
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: or wins, they'st they've scored under twenty points.

888
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: They are really really bad, Like I mean, conceptually bad.

889
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they really understand how to use Bryce

890
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: Young yet.

891
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: He's also what happened with Frank Reich. He was hired

892
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: because of his offensive pedigree.

893
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: Right, and they fired him too soon. Look, I know

894
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: it was going awful, but that's not the right move.

895
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 3: I just look, let the guy finish coaching out the season.

896
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: Don't judge him by the wins and losses in the

897
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: first year of your program and of the first year

898
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: of a quarterback's career. I mean, you definitely want to

899
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: judge him by wins and losses at some point, But

900
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: what you really need to do is you need to

901
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: investigate what's happening with Bryce Young by the end of

902
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: the season. Did he get better? Where did he start from?

903
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: What platform was he on versus where he is now?

904
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: Who threw in behind Bryce Young? Who evaluated his talent

905
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: and said he needs to be in the room. If you,

906
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: you're the owner, David Tepper, were the person who is

907
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: demanding him beyond the team, you need to take a

908
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: hard look in the mirror, or you need to take

909
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: a hard look at those talent evaluators who convinced you

910
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: that this was the right call. And you need to

911
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: be sure that the coaches around him, because now there's

912
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: a commitment here can can fix the problems if there

913
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: are any. That's what they should have done. But David

914
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: Tepper is a hothead. David Tepper clearly is a hothead.

915
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: He threw a drink out a fan two weeks ago.

916
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: I mean, David Tepper got fined three hundred thousand dollars

917
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: by the league because he couldn't he couldn't withstand a

918
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: fan shouting into his you know, tens of thousand dollars

919
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: owner booth, like ridiculous. So he fired Matt Ruhle, he

920
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: fired Frank Reich in quick succession. They're going to be

921
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: on to their third head coach in what less than

922
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: a year, and Bryce Young has now had several different

923
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: voices in the headset. It's it's not a good start

924
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: for Bryce Young's career, and a lot of it has

925
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: to do with, you know, starting at the top, with

926
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: how this organizations ran this. David Tepper, you're amazing about this.

927
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: So this guy's a hedge fun guy.

928
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know what that means other than

929
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: he has billions of dollars, right, he does. He doesn't

930
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: create anything, but somehow he makes a lot of money. Well,

931
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: he creates dividends for clients, apparently we'll see anyway, so

932
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: he's worth billions. But none of that matters, because when

933
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: you become an owner of an NFL team, that's your obituary,

934
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: good or bad. I mean, David Tepper, you know, when

935
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: his day is done, the lead is going to be

936
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers. That's the lead owner of the Carolina Panthers,

937
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: and right now it's a disaster. See I have this question.

938
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: A lot of people say, Wow, if Carolina had drafted

939
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud instead of Bryce Young, they would be

940
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: having the season the Texans are having. I'm not so

941
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: sure about that.

942
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: In these organizations, there's a reason why the Jets are

943
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: miserable or the Chargers are miserable.

944
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: There's reasons why certain franchises never ever seem to get

945
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: off the map. And it starts at the top. So

946
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: much like.

947
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: Daniel Snyder, who's a billionaire, his legacy is always going

948
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: to be the Redskins slash football team, slash Commanders.

949
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: That's his legacy. Oh yeah, that is his obituary. That

950
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: entire thing is going to be his obituating, not that

951
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: he made billions of dollars. That's going to be it.

952
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: David Tepper is walking in the same manure.

953
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well, look, there's a lot of anonymous billionaires.

954
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: There's a lot more billionaires than Elon Musk and you

955
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: know Bill Gates and some of these owners in the NFL.

956
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: That bas right.

957
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 3: But Jerry Jones like the ones you know, they they're

958
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: either fame famous or they're infamous. And David Tepper, like

959
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: Daniel Snyder, like Woody Johnson, like Dean Spanos, like some

960
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: of these other names in the NFL who haven't really

961
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: been able to get out of their way and either

962
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: a make the financial contribution to build a winner or

963
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 3: b allow football people to make football decisions. For whatever reason,

964
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: it hasn't worked. And so they will be They will

965
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: live or be remembered in infamy. And the top line,

966
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: like you said, whenever it is a day years and

967
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: years from now, when Daniel Snyder takes the long dirt nap,

968
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 3: the obituary will read unsuccessful ownership of the Washington football team.

969
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: Like that is what it'll say, because that's that's the

970
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: reality of you stepped into the limelight. You're a part

971
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: of You're part of American royalty when you buy one

972
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: of these thirty two franchises and now you're responsible for

973
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: the hopes and dreams of a fan base who's going

974
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: to spend sometimes money they can't spend to go support

975
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: your players. I mean, how many Carolina Panthers fans bought

976
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: season tickets after the first overall pick. Came in excited

977
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: for what this team could look like, excited that Frank

978
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: Reik was the head coach, and what a disaster it's become.

979
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: Now.

980
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Can David Tepper be blamed for all of it?

981
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: No, but he's gotta take his share of responsibility and

982
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: the the fact that he's made himself so visible and

983
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 3: so villainous this season. He's gotta wear it until he

984
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: fixes it. He's the common denominator.

985
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. With Daniel Snyder removed from this league,

986
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: Tepper is the target. Yep, and just read all over

987
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: social media, this guy is getting crucified. All right? We

988
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: continue on. Six games going on right now around the

989
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: NFL will continue to try to explain all these playoff scenarios,

990
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 2: and there are many of them, before we finally get

991
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: the final fourteen teams moving on to the postseason this

992
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

993
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Second and goal at the three.

994
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 10: Gimp spears scooting, spinning, diving, staying.

995
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 9: On his feet.

996
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: They can't get it down.

997
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 10: Touch down Titan Tujay spears.

998
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: His second crushing touchdown.

999
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: Toun the campaign that's WGFX one O four point five

1000
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: Titans Radio Network lead the Jags twenty one to ten.

1001
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Will explain the significance of that game coming up shortly.

1002
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve

1003
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 2: Hartbin and Rich Ornberger. We are alive from the tire

1004
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios. The AFC playoff picture would be

1005
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: very clear. If the Jaguars lose, they would be out out.

1006
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: That means the Texans will win the division and the

1007
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: Steelers would be in as a wildcard. The only thing

1008
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: that would then have to be determined is who wins

1009
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: the AFC East correct either be the Bills or the Dolphins.

1010
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: The loser of that game falls to a wild card.

1011
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: But as far as which teams would be in the AFC,

1012
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: if the Jags lose, it's set. The seven teams would

1013
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: be set. Pittsburgh would get that final slot.

1014
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a matter of order. Where the Bills

1015
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: are the Dolphins fall at that point, right, and who

1016
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: has uh who has home field advantage in that situation? So,

1017
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: I mean a lot to play for still for the

1018
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills and mim Dolphins.

1019
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean there's a big difference between being at home.

1020
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: I have to run through the row. Bills, if they

1021
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: lose that game, would be the seventh seed. Again, this

1022
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: is based on if the Jaguars lose today.

1023
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: But I will say this, right, so the Dolphins are

1024
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: guaranteed they've clinched the playoff birth, they're just playing for

1025
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: the divisional title.

1026
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: Just, I mean just is very huge. It's huge. But

1027
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: what would you prefer if you're the Miami Dolphins, wit

1028
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: being at home?

1029
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Well?

1030
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: Right, okay, no, no, no, no, you're not. That's not the question

1031
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: I was going to ask.

1032
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: Would you prefer the nervousness of the Bills knowing that

1033
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: they're playing for their playoff future or have them be

1034
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: a little bit satiated by the fact that they've clinched

1035
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: the playoff birth? So what would you prefer for the

1036
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: Bills your opponent heading into this game? If you're the

1037
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins.

1038
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: I think I would have them rest assured that they're

1039
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: making the playoffs, So a little fat and happy as

1040
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: to play for. If Jacksonville looses, they're in right very least,

1041
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: they're going to be the seventh seed. They'll sneak into

1042
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But if you're Miami, Miami is Dallas.

1043
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: Although you think about it, Buffalo, Buffalo has kind of

1044
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: had some of those big game tummy troubles, Like there's

1045
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: worse they had, Josh Allen, I mean, think about But

1046
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: here's the one thing you got to deny because same

1047
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: thing with Dallas today, right yeah, I mean you need.

1048
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: To win because you don't want to go on the road.

1049
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: The Dolphins and the Cowboys are the exact same team.

1050
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: They have higher powered offenses at home. Right on the road,

1051
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 2: both of these teams look completely different. So their only

1052
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: hope is you get a couple of home games and

1053
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: then somehow pull a miracle at Baltimore or at San Francisco.

1054
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: But they need to win today.

1055
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: They need to win their divisions and have that home

1056
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: field advantage.

1057
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, and you know.

1058
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: What's the crazy thing about the Dolphins is it's not

1059
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: even necessarily that they were a poor road team, because

1060
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they have a winning record on the

1061
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: road it's just that in big games against better competition

1062
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: they've floundered.

1063
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: Well, how they look last week against Baltimore.

1064
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: Well against Balltimore they got absolutely tuned up fifty six nineteen.

1065
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: It was a close win over the Cowboys. But the Cowboys,

1066
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: to your point, bad road team. So they go to

1067
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: Miami and they lose by two points, and you sort

1068
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 3: of saw it coming. But against the Jets, they'll run

1069
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: the scoreboard up and shut them out thirty to nothing.

1070
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: They've played the Jets twice over the past you know,

1071
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: month and a half. The Titans, though they lose that game,

1072
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: they've gotten embarrassed with the Chiefs, they lost that game.

1073
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: They've gotten embarrassed by some some of the better teams

1074
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: that they faced this season. And the Eagles beat them up.

1075
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: This is months ago now, but the Eagles earlier in

1076
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: the season beat them up. The Bills. I mean, the

1077
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: first time they played the Bills absolutely stomped them. And

1078
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: this is when the Dolphins came roaring out the gates.

1079
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: You know, they had that big win on the road

1080
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: against the Chargers, a bit of a shootout, and then

1081
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: they romped the Patriots in Foxborough. And then they go

1082
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: and they host the Broncos, and they put seventy points

1083
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: up on the Broncos, and then the Bills absolutely embarrassed them.

1084
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: They beat them by twenty eight points of the forty

1085
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: eight twenty final. So the Dolphins their problem isn't the road.

1086
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: Their problem is playing against better competition, which the Bills

1087
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: are today.

1088
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: All right. The Saints have taken a seventeen to fourteen

1089
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: lead over the Falcons inside a minute to go in

1090
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: the first half. Again, the winner of this game will

1091
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: win the NFC South if the Buccaneers lose at Carolina,

1092
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: and the Bucks have looked lousy today, although they have

1093
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: just added a field goal, so the Bucks lead six

1094
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: to nothing. We have reached halftime here in Carolina, so

1095
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: give the Panthers defense credit.

1096
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: At least they've showed up today. The Panthers simply have

1097
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: no offense. Speaking of no offense, Jets and Patriots in

1098
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: a snow storm in New England. Inside thirty seconds to

1099
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: go in the first half. The Jets lead six to three.

1100
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna line up for another field goal attempt.

1101
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: It has been snowing throughout this game. The snow is

1102
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: piling up on the field right now.

1103
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

1104
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: So the Jets are lining up for a field goal

1105
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: attempt in the snow. All right, so let me get

1106
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: this scenario.

1107
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Look look at that field, dude, that field was clear

1108
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 3: ten minutes ago. Well, this is the snow is coming down.

1109
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: This is Foxborough and I lived through this for three years.

1110
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: This was Foxborough? Or is Foxborough in December and January.

1111
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: If if you don't like the weather, first of all,

1112
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: just wait five minutes. It feels like you could have

1113
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: a beautifully sunny day and then it'll be pouring rain

1114
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 3: and then it'll be you know, sleeting and hailing by

1115
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: you know, midday, and then it'll he.

1116
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: Missed the field goal. By the way, this is the

1117
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: exact weather they had for the Tuck Roll game against

1118
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: the Raiders, Remember that snow game. That's right.

1119
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: And this game is just as important as that Tuck

1120
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: Rull games, no question.

1121
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: A lot on the line here. Tell me that Bob Kraft,

1122
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: if they lose at home to the Jets go on

1123
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: to wrap up a what would be a four and

1124
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: thirteen season, Bob is going to put his arm around

1125
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: Bill saying, hey, how about extending your deal five more years.

1126
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, that conversation isn't happening. I

1127
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: think whatever extension he's on, good for life. Man, he'll

1128
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: listen to anybody.

1129
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: You're my god.

1130
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: You're not coming back to the negotiation table unless unless

1131
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: Bill says, hey, you know, Bob, I want to give

1132
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: back some of this money. I mean seriously, I mean you, dude,

1133
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 3: you are the only one.

1134
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: Look at the top picture there. You are the only

1135
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: one convinced that that man is secure in his job.

1136
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: I honestly you are standing alone.

1137
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh I honestly, I don't think, or I shouldn't say

1138
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: I think he's secure. I don't think he's secure in

1139
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: his job. I think he's on the hot seat in

1140
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: a major way. I just think the most likely outcome

1141
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: is that he stays in New England because for multiple reasons. One,

1142
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: he's under contract, and if Bob Kraft fires him, he

1143
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: has a lot of money walking out that he has

1144
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: a lot of he does, and I'm not saying he

1145
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: does and he does. Belichick isn't signing a settlement. That's

1146
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. I can promise you twenty million

1147
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: dollars when you're worth you know what, five or six

1148
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: billion dollars. It is. It's disposable.

1149
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: If you want to make a change, let me ask

1150
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: you go ahead, let's let's play this out. Let's for whatever,

1151
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: just shocking reason, Belichick is let go and he leaves.

1152
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: What do you do you bring Josh McDaniels in. I mean,

1153
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: where do you think the mindset is in Bob Kraft

1154
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: having had the same coach since the year two thousand,

1155
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: so twenty four years of Belichick, what is his mindset

1156
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: to begin a search for his next head coach? And

1157
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: by the way, he would also have to address the

1158
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: general manager's job well right, and if he brings somebody

1159
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: back that has already gotten knowledge of working in the organization,

1160
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: or does he decide you know, the Belichick way is dead.

1161
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: It's had its history.

1162
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 3: All these assistants have gone with very little success around

1163
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: the league. I need to start completely new. How much

1164
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: is Jim Harbaugh going to cost me? Well, Jim Harbaugh

1165
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: a good example of a coach who is very Belichicking

1166
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: an approach. You know, I know a lot of people

1167
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: look at what he's done at the college level and

1168
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: he's reborn. But you forget the way he left the NFL.

1169
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: There was a mutiny on the decks of the forty

1170
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: nine ers. The veterans hated him. I heard from multiple

1171
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: players who you know, across my time playing in the

1172
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: NFL after Harball left, they expressed that whole lot he

1173
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: lost the locker room. So it works. Certain coaching styles

1174
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: work at the collegiate level. Chip Kelly is a good example.

1175
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: It works at the collegiate level. But you are gonna

1176
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: wear out NFL veterans who are thirty and in certain

1177
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: cases forty years old or nearing forty years old, and

1178
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: they have big, old contracts and they don't want to

1179
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: listen to a coach who's going to say, hey, get online,

1180
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: it's it's time to run some gassers like get lost.

1181
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: I gotta save my knees.

1182
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna have a competitive practice day. We're

1183
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: gonna hit a lot. You know, rules be damned, Like,

1184
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna get better today. Yes, screw you. I've got

1185
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: a back injury. I've been nursing all season.

1186
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: Like.

1187
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: There are certain things that work at the college game

1188
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: that just don't work at the NFL level. And Jim

1189
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: Harbaugh can take a program and he can renovate it quick.

1190
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: We saw it with us when he was at the

1191
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: University of San Diego. We saw it at Stanford, and

1192
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: we saw it with the forty nine ers, but it

1193
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: doesn't have staying power at the pro level. So if

1194
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: Kraft is smart, he doesn't look at Jim Harbaugh because

1195
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: that is not going to be a lasting In my opinion.

1196
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is available. Remember when Josh McDaniels turned down

1197
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: the Colt stop for the last second and returned to

1198
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: New England, and there was a theory that he was

1199
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: sort of lying in way that you know, Belichick would

1200
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: step aside and McDaniels will behead the head coach.

1201
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: Of course, that did not happen. He failed again with

1202
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: the Raiders, just like he did in Denver.

1203
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what his relationship is like with Bob Kraft,

1204
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: but he's someone that he would trust.

1205
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: And oh, I think I think he's earned a lot

1206
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: of trust with with Bob Craft. There's no question, because

1207
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: the best that offense has looked over the past decade

1208
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: plus has been with Josh McDaniel.

1209
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: We'll look at Mac Jones as a rookie, That's what

1210
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1211
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: I mean, when Josh McDaniels was there with Tom Brady,

1212
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: inarguably some of the most successful years the Patriots have had.

1213
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: When when Josh McDaniels was the offensive court with Mac

1214
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: Jones inarguably the most successful season he's had in his

1215
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, three year career. Now it's it's conceivable that

1216
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: Bob Kraft, if he's interested in moving off of Belichick,

1217
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: it's conceivable that he would go with a known quantity

1218
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: like a Josh McDaniels. However, again I contend this, it's

1219
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: he's still a very difficult even though there's a ground

1220
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: swell of support by some Patriots fans to get rid

1221
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: of Bill Belichick. Even though there's a lot of source

1222
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: reporting coming out right now about the discord in the

1223
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 3: front office and with the head or the coaching staff

1224
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: in New England, I still think the most likely outcome

1225
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: is he stays put in New England for now that

1226
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: opinion Ken Champion based on more facts.

1227
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 2: He walks off the field in that snowstorm at home

1228
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: losing to the Jets. If that's not the final nail

1229
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: in the coffin, I don't know what is. Let's find

1230
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: out what is trending right now.

1231
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: Six games going on around the National Football League, and

1232
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: is all over at Monci is back.

1233
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 8: It's true, and they're all pretty much at halftime.

1234
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna start with the Vikings and the Lions.

1235
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 8: Something to keep an eye on tight end Sam Laporta,

1236
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 8: who's been awesome all season. He had a slight limp

1237
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 8: coming off the field with less than two minutes to

1238
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 8: go on.

1239
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 7: The first half.

1240
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 8: He was officially carted to the locker room with a

1241
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 8: knee injury.

1242
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 7: So something to keep an eye on.

1243
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 8: The Vikings just ended the first half with a field goal,

1244
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 8: but the Lions are on top thirteen to six. It

1245
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 8: still has been all Bengals against the Browns. I don't

1246
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 8: know if Cleveland really cares, but the Bengals are.

1247
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: Jeff Driscoll a quarterback. If you have Briscol a quarterback,

1248
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: you do not care.

1249
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa?

1250
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: Guys, guys taking it easy? Are we talking about VD?

1251
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: After this? I didn't even know Drisco was still in

1252
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: the lake?

1253
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1254
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: I want to look up Leuiz.

1255
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 7: I was like, Who's who is that quarterback for the Browns?

1256
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: Where did he play college football?

1257
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: Steve?

1258
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: Do you know if the who? Wasn't he in Miami

1259
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: for a while? I don't I have no, I know,

1260
01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: no idea.

1261
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean I would take a blind stab in the dark,

1262
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: and I would say played for these.

1263
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 11: Steve was close. Hang even was the Florida Gators.

1264
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: That's what I said, Florida. Did I say no, You

1265
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: said Miami, I said Miami. I meant Florida. And then

1266
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: I remember he went to Louisiana Tech. He was like,

1267
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: oh wait, you remember that.

1268
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, now I remember image Florida. But the fact was

1269
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 3: he was the high school player of the year.

1270
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: This guy was like a superstar. Well, well, hang up,

1271
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: we're reading the same Wikipedia page. Yeah, yeah, well you

1272
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: know what we all remember it now.

1273
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you also know that he was a six round

1274
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: draft pick in twenty sixteen.

1275
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: It was picked two O seven. I just remembered that.

1276
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: You know what his starting record is as a starting quarterback,

1277
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: One and nine right right about to be one in ten. Well, yes,

1278
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: we still have half of flat.

1279
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 7: We do have a whole half.

1280
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 8: But the Browns are down twenty four zero to the Bengals.

1281
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 7: The Trackers are trying to win their second AFC self title.

1282
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 8: Consecutive, but the Times are not making that easy. Dereck

1283
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 8: Henry nineteen seventy yards one touchdown the Times are on

1284
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 8: top twenty one to thirteen. It is a snow storm

1285
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 8: in New England. It looks so fun. The Jets are

1286
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 8: on top of the Patriots sixty three. The Falcons and

1287
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 8: the Saints are tied at seventeen. Desmond Ritter has strolen

1288
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 8: for two hundred and twelve yards and two touchdowns.

1289
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 7: Jean ra or Jean Robinson, I think is a correct way.

1290
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 8: He has six receptions, ninety six yards and a touchdown

1291
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 8: and he's in the record books for Atlanta. Now he

1292
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 8: has the most yards from scrimmage in team history by

1293
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 8: a rookie.

1294
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

1295
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 8: And then the Buccaneers and the Panther's a bit of

1297
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 8: a snooze fest on that one.

1298
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 7: But the Bucks did end the.

1299
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 8: First half with another field goal from Chase McLaughlin fifty

1300
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 8: seven yards, So the Bucks on top of the Panthers

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 8: six zero. And yes, Baker Mayfield, if he wins and

1302
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 8: he gets this team into the playoffs, he gets a

1303
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 8: million dollar incentive.

1304
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: So come on, Baker.

1305
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, dude, a playoff birth plays you two

1306
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: million lake?

1307
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 7: How nice?

1308
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Okay, And now I guess it's a division,

1309
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: But like, what if you Bryce Young's Richmond I was

1310
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: gonna say, like, why don't why don't you go to

1311
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: somebody like an influential player on the other team in

1312
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: Carolina and be like, listen, I will split it with

1313
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: We just need to get through this game looking like

1314
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: we both tried really hard. Don't you remember when in

1315
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: your third season the Patriots, you guys get to the

1316
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Yeah, and Bob Crafts slipping you a little

1317
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: extra check, like, which, thank you?

1318
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: Let me grease a little bit. Yeah, you know what.

1319
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 3: I open up my envelope, like you know, I'm sitting

1320
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: next to other people's, you know, and they're got like

1321
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars my goodness. And then I open my

1322
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: mind and it's like it's like, wait a second, this, uh, Bob,

1323
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: this is a this is like a used Chuck E

1324
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: cheese card.

1325
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, but there's literally's thinking. I think

1326
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: at the exact same thing, like little gift card.

1327
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: Shook, wait, this is this is this is a this

1328
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 3: is a bent gift card from Nathan's arcade.

1329
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't think this is gonna work, Bobby Well.

1330
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: Rich that's because you've we're truly in your debt.

1331
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: Your services have been invaluable this season. Thank you, Bob Hey.

1332
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: I was hearing by the way, by the way once

1333
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: again with this Fox Sports Red Zone radio, and I

1334
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 3: was listening to our buddy Brian no today this morning,

1335
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: and he went on a rant about how it is

1336
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: that anyone believes that the Chicago Bears should hold.

1337
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: On to Justin Field.

1338
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: He was adamant about me yesterday on countdown to kickoff.

1339
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: So Justin Field's record as a starting quarterback in three

1340
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: years is ten and twenty seven.

1341
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, his career passer rating.

1342
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: Is eighty two, right, and he was using that as

1343
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: the soul metric. That plus the fact that he has

1344
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: an even number of touchdowns to interceptions.

1345
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: Actually has forty touchdowns thirty interceptions.

1346
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, but the last five games or whenever

1347
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: it came back from the thumb injury.

1348
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: He was using like the.

1349
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: Passer rating career passer rating and then touchdownsenters since he's

1350
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: returned back from the being injured as like these two

1351
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: ten polls to his argument that Fields must move on

1352
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: all right.

1353
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: So you had the number one pick in the draft,

1354
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: the courtesy of the Carolina Panthers, and Caleb Williams is

1355
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: sitting there right, and I and by the most scouts

1356
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: have projected Caleb Williams as a generational talent.

1357
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: And yesterday and I didn't listen to the broadcast with

1358
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: Crack and Jeff he went, but he says, Caleb Williams

1359
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: is a can't miss, one hundred guarantee superstar at the

1360
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 3: NFL level. And if he's not at very least he's

1361
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: going to be better or as good as justin Field.

1362
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 3: So why not move off him right now?

1363
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: All right?

1364
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: I would remind our buddy Brian know that no Bears

1365
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: quarterback has made the Pro Bowl since Jim McMahon. It

1366
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: is a graveyard for quarterbacks. The greatest Bears quarterback was

1367
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: Sid Luckman, and he played in the forties. That was

1368
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: the greatest Bears quarterback was Sid Luckman and he played

1369
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: in the nineteen five.

1370
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: Coincidence, the grandfather of Jess Driftskolf. That's true, It's so

1371
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.

1372
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: But the idea that Caleb Williams, with all the quarterbacks

1373
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: of the Bears have had over the years, that he will

1374
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: be different, like he will jump in and suddenly the

1375
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: Bears become a juggernaut in the NFC. You know, the

1376
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: most successful Bears quarterback was Mitchell Trubisky. He had a

1377
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 2: twelve win season. Dude, look at his numbers in Chicago.

1378
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: Look look here, here's the argument that I posted. And

1379
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: you moved up to the second pick in the draft

1380
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 2: to get him.

1381
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 3: And here's what I'll say to anybody who's uninitiated, And

1382
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: it's not your fault if you never look. It's a

1383
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: it's a class onto its own. You make it to

1384
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 3: the NFL like you're you're obviously in a very rarefied

1385
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 3: group of humans. But to be a decent, even a

1386
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 3: decent starter at the NFL level, it is really really hard.

1387
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: I cannot express to you how difficult it is. And

1388
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people who you know, our deep like

1389
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: deep fans of teams, like even though the people who

1390
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 3: watch every single game sometimes don't respect or understand how

1391
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 3: difficult what justin fields, even with his record or losing

1392
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: record as a starting quarterback, how difficult it is to

1393
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 3: be even as good as he is, and to say, Okay,

1394
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: we've seen him for parts of three years due to injury,

1395
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: have some varied levels of success, but he's absolutely finishing

1396
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,839
Speaker 3: this season strong. There's no questioning that this is probably

1397
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: among the most successful stretch of his career so far

1398
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 3: as a starting quarterback in Chicago to say it's time

1399
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: to move off of him, and then also throw in

1400
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 3: with an unknown quantity at the college level, when you

1401
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: have all of this draft capital that you can spend

1402
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 3: building a team around Justin Fields or by the way,

1403
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 3: remove Justin Fields from the conversation for a minute.

1404
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: You're building a team.

1405
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: Like so whether or not Justin Fields you extend him

1406
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 3: or next year is his final year in Chicago and

1407
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: you let him walk after four years of service. It's

1408
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 3: not to say that he is going to be the

1409
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: future quarterback. It's just to say that you're not gonna

1410
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 3: gamble on a new quarterback out of this draft. Yet,

1411
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: when you do have still somebody who's proven to be

1412
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: at very least a starter at this level, and he

1413
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: has some talent at this level, I would I would

1414
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 3: keep him for another year. I would see if he

1415
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 3: can do it, and if you've built a team successfully

1416
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,520
Speaker 3: in the meantime, maybe you can trade for a quarterback

1417
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, like the Rams did, and go win

1418
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl or improve your team dramatically. I don't know,

1419
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 3: like the Jets did. Unsuccessfully with Aaron Rodgers because he

1420
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 3: got hurt. But that is a that's something that you

1421
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 3: can also evaluate as well.

1422
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: Here's what I don't understand. So Fields is ten and

1423
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: twenty seven in it's three years. Yeah, Trubisky in the

1424
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: previous three years was twenty five and thirteen. So you

1425
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 2: got rid of Trubisky and his last three years was

1426
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: twenty five and thirteen with a coaching change, and your

1427
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: place Fields, who's ten and twenty seven. And by the way,

1428
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: if you're talking about touchdown interception ratio in those three years,

1429
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 2: Trubisky fifty seven touchdowns thirty picks two to one ratio.

1430
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: So they gave up on Trubisky. Yeah, they use all

1431
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: that draft capital to move up to the number two

1432
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: pick in the draft. Well, say, well, what has he

1433
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: done since? What would you think?

1434
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: What would you lean on on doing here? Like what

1435
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: like in your in your mind.

1436
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: I would I would try to get the McCaskey family

1437
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: out of ownership. Goes back to again when I talked

1438
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: about the chats and the charge.

1439
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 3: Would you Panthers if you say you could play your

1440
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 3: king for day? Yeah, you're the owner of the Chicago Bears.

1441
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I look at it, quarterback alone is

1442
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 2: not going to make a difference when you have if

1443
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: you can get three number ones, think about this. If

1444
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: you got three number ones, which I would imagine would

1445
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: include future number ones, yep, yep, and it doesn't work

1446
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: this year with justin fields, then you have a number

1447
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: one to play with to get another quarterback.

1448
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: And I mean, look there one thing that we know

1449
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: about the college football ranks recently is we're seeing college

1450
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: football pump out these high caliber prospects year after year.

1451
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: Now because the world of seven on seven, right, the

1452
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: world of the high school quarterback throwing the football instead of.

1453
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: Being a handoff jockey, that's all changed.

1454
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: You now have guys who have been throwing since age seven,

1455
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: all the way through their high school career, all the

1456
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 3: way through their college career. These guys are ready to

1457
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 3: play the caliber or the style of NFL football. And

1458
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 3: also the NFL offensive coordinators have caught up to times too.

1459
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 3: They're no longer just running their pro style offense and

1460
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 3: like Tony Romo sitting on the bench for three years

1461
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: and learning the offense before taking over. No, nowadays it's

1462
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 3: like we're gonna install an offense to your capabilities and

1463
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: your skill set.

1464
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: Who would you take between bow Nix and Michael Pennocks Junior. Now,

1465
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: bow Knicks just set a record, broke Mac Jones record

1466
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: highest completion percentage ever in an FPS season. You obviously

1467
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 2: have watched Michael Pennix, Who's not a runner. The guys

1468
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: a pocket passer. He can throw the deep ball, he

1469
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: can throw just rifle shots all over the place. But

1470
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: which one of those two guys bow Knicks and Michael

1471
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: Pennix Junior would you project as the best prospect going

1472
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: into the NFL. It's so tough. I mean, those are

1473
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: two really talented guys, but who played a long career.

1474
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: I mean, there are some major concerns and rightfully so

1475
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 3: about Penix Junior and some of his injuries injury history,

1476
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: but his timing, his arm talent, his capability under pressure,

1477
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: and I don't just mean like pressure from the defense,

1478
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 3: but I also mean like pressure of the moment, big

1479
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 3: moment passer, his deep ball accuracy, his football acumen and IQ.

1480
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: I think Pennix Junior is the safest back coming out

1481
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: of the draft this year.

1482
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: It's interesting now that still projected at Caleb Williams one

1483
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: and Drake may two. Yep, yep. I mean you see

1484
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: every projected in the draft. It's not Jayden Daniels to

1485
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: stop Bo Nicks, it's not Michael Pennick junior. It's still

1486
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: where we started the season. See what Williams want Drake

1487
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: may too.

1488
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: Look you you've and I we've been broadcasting together for

1489
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: a decade now, something like that. Like when when it

1490
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 3: comes down to it, like every offseason, we know it

1491
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: it is a it's a it's a juggling match.

1492
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 2: Like with these top quarterbacks.

1493
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 3: Do you remember when it was the Donald Mayfield rose

1494
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: in Allen draft. Lamar Jackson was taken in the first

1495
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: round that year. I forget what end of the first round. Well,

1496
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: but my point was you had a lot of names

1497
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 3: being juggled there, right, you had a lot of names

1498
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: being juggled there, and all of a sudden, Mayfield.

1499
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: Was the top pick.

1500
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 3: Nobody almost nobody had Mayfield darning one thought Darnald was

1501
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 3: gonna go one.

1502
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: So that he goes to the Browns. Had a better

1503
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 2: career Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold.

1504
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: Bagger Mayfield has had a better career. Yes, Baker Mayfield

1505
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 3: absolutely had a better career. He's had He has had

1506
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: more opportunities too, and also didn't go the Jets.

1507
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: Stop right there. Yeah, he didn't go to the Jets.

1508
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: That hurts.

1509
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: Here's my point though, is you never know what draft

1510
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 3: day is going to yield, especially when you we have

1511
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 3: this amount of talented quarterbacks coming out.

1512
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,799
Speaker 2: All right, second half's getting ready around the National Football League.

1513
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: Six games and games that matter in terms of who's

1514
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: gonna get into the postseason. This is Fox Sports Red

1515
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: Zone Radio Steve Harman and Rich Rnberger. This is Fox

1516
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live from the tyrack

1517
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: dot com studios. The Jacksonville Jaguars are in big trouble

1518
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 2: right now. Not good. Tennessee just scored again. They lead

1519
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirteen, twelve forty five to go in

1520
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: the third quarter. Derrick Henry and what could well be

1521
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: his final game as a Titan. He's a free agent.

1522
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: Twelve carries, one hundred and thirty nine yards and a score.

1523
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: He just had his thirtieth birthday. He'll be a free agent.

1524
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: Is he a free agent? He's a free agent. I

1525
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: thought he had years left on his contract. Yeah, this

1526
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: is it. He's gonna hit the free agent market. So

1527
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: he was already talking about this possibly being his final

1528
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: game in a Titans uniform, and you know he says,

1529
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: like everybody else, he'd like to stay with the organation. Obviously,

1530
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: it's been a great run for me. Made his fourth

1531
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl this year, and know how much he hate

1532
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: Pro Bowls, but he had over a thousand yards. Again,

1533
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: Any interest in a thirty year old Derrick Henry in

1534
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: a free agent market, Annie, I.

1535
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: Mean not particularly. I think when you're looking around at

1536
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: the NFL and what this league year has yielded, especially

1537
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: after how much attention the running back position got this

1538
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 3: offseason due to a lot of these a lot of

1539
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,879
Speaker 3: the frustration you heard from Austin Eckler and Saquon Barkley

1540
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: and Jonathan Taylor. I those guys underperformed. Austin Eckler was

1541
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 3: injured throughout the course of the season, so was Saquon Barkley,

1542
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 3: so was Jonathan Taylor.

1543
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: And then you get a guy off the waiver wire,

1544
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: Kyron Williams. Who is hebol He.

1545
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: Was sensational ford for the Cleveland Browns after Chubb goes down.

1546
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 3: He's been incredible this season. Like I'm not saying good

1547
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: or great running backs are a Diamond dozen, They're not.

1548
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry was singular and impress through a three year

1549
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 3: stretch in Tennessee and an incredibly important reason why the

1550
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans were so dominant in their offensive and frankly

1551
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 3: their defensive performances, which was a big part of it too.

1552
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: But I digress to say, like the undervalued or the

1553
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 3: lesser valued prices at the running back position is because

1554
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 3: you can't trust them to stay healthy.

1555
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: You just can't.

1556
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley has only two healthy years under his belt

1557
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,919
Speaker 3: as a starting running back in this league. Austin Eckler

1558
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 3: had one really great, really healthy year with the Chargers.

1559
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: He led the league in touchdowns two years in a row.

1560
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, two years. My apologies. I want to give

1561
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 3: credit work credit too. Henry obviously, like I said, I think,

1562
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: really that was an impressive run with Tennessee, but it's

1563
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: coming to an end, and I think he's obviously diminished

1564
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: in capacity. This season's a great example of that. So yeah,

1565
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: I think you get younger at that position. You try

1566
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: to find find somebody off the waiver wire or in

1567
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 3: free agency or in the second or third round of

1568
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: the NFL draft, and you're gonna You're gonna be just fine.

1569
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: If the Jaguars lose the field and the AFC side

1570
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: is set, Pittsburgh will make the playoffs. Jags will be

1571
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: out now. The only question would be the order, of course,

1572
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: a huge game tonight between Miami and Buffalo to decide

1573
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: who wins the AFC East. Meanwhile, the Saints have just

1574
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: scored on a twenty six yard touchdown pass from Derek

1575
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: Carr to Chris Olave, the rookie, and the Saints lee

1576
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: the Falcons twenty four to seventeen. The winner of this

1577
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: game will win the NFC South. If the Tampa Bay

1578
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: Buccaneers lose, and they're still in a battle with the

1579
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: Panthers right now, six to nothing, no touchdowns in this game.

1580
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: Panthers had the ball near midfield right now. So Tampa's

1581
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: not home yet, not even close, and very are really

1582
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 2: really struggling. So by the way, you're looking some severe

1583
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: weather around the country. It's beautiful sunshine down there in Carolina.

1584
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for whatever reason, the Buccaneers offense is not

1585
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: clicking today. Well, the Carolina Panthers, they owe they owe

1586
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 3: some credit here.

1587
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: Right now.

1588
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: They're holding the Buccaneers to two for ten on third

1589
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 3: down conversions. I mean that's for two reasons. One, good

1590
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: plan against their third down packages, but also, uh, they're

1591
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 3: they're and they're getting Baker off his spot, and if

1592
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: you get him moving with a lower body injury, obviously

1593
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: is less accurate. And then also what they're doing on

1594
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: early downs, they're setting them up for these longer third

1595
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: down situations where it's tougher to convert.

1596
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: So they're they're they're.

1597
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 3: Staying they're they're not allowing the the Buccaneers to stay

1598
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 3: on the chains or stay on schedule, and it's having

1599
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: a big effect on their offense in this game.

1600
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: All Right. The Cleveland Browns mailed in today's game with

1601
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: Jeff Driscoll. By the way, let me tell you about

1602
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: Jeff Driscoll. He was the national gator Rade high school

1603
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: player of the year. He went to Florida, it didn't

1604
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 2: work out, ye, and he went to Louisianatack and he

1605
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: had some success there and then yes, and his record

1606
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 2: is a starting quarterback one and nine. Today's five of

1607
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: twelve passing forty four yards, no touchdowns, and two picks

1608
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: a passer radio twelve points. Trump pick. Jeff Drisco right

1609
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: there as Joe Flacco sits on the bench.

1610
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 3: All right, much more coming up. This is Fox Sports

1611
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 3: Red Zone Radio.

1612
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: Snapped the car. Here comes some pressure car stands now

1613
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: loft swum towards the end zone and that is going

1614
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: to be caught.

1615
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Got tipped up the air.

1616
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: Chriss Olalla touchdown, Big tipped it up into the air

1617
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:33,480
Speaker 3: to himself.

1618
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 2: Fuck touchdown. His eighty sixth reception is a TV. That's

1619
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: WWL Saints Radio Network. And the Saints have just scored

1620
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: again wow, to extend their lead over the Falcons thirty

1621
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: to seventeen, penning the extra point eight fifty four to

1622
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: go in the third quarter. Again a Saints win and

1623
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: a Buccaneer's loss, and the Saints will be champions of

1624
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: the NFC South. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1625
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,400
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1626
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1630
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: to a very fast start in this game, but it's

1631
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: been all Saints since and Derek card today is seventeen

1632
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: to twenty one, two hundred and twenty one yards, three

1633
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,799
Speaker 2: touchdowns and no picks. By the way, if the Bucks

1634
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 2: win and the Saints win, the Saints still have a

1635
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: chance of getting in as a wild card. They need

1636
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: a couple losses, but they're still in the chase. So

1637
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: how does this great out? The Saints win this game

1638
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: to get to nine and eight. Dennis Allen seems to

1639
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: be safe right now as far as the Saints. But

1640
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: how would you rate Derek Carr's debut as the Saints

1641
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: quarterback up and down?

1642
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 3: I would I would say overall, it's felt very shaky

1643
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 3: compared to the level of talent he has and the

1644
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: consistency we've seen while he was a Raiders starting quarterback.

1645
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 3: There were even times during the season where it felt

1646
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: like he and his offensive line in game weren't on

1647
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: the same page. But look, the ends do in certain

1648
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 3: cases justify the means. If you can find a way

1649
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: to vault into the postseason in your opening salvo as

1650
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 3: a starting quarterback, a lot can be forgiven, especially if

1651
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: the follow up to this season is a more successful season.

1652
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: The big reason why for example, the Denver Broncos are

1653
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 3: moving on from Russell Wilson is because there hasn't been success.

1654
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 3: There hasn't been a playoff Berth, It's been underwhelming team

1655
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 3: wide what's happened since he's been the starting quarterback and

1656
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 3: essentially the leader of this franchise. So it would be

1657
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: an enormous feather in the cap of Derek Carr in

1658
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: terms of incurring the trust of this new franchise and

1659
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: his teammates if he somehow finds a way to get

1660
01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: the Saints into the post.

1661
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 2: If you look at his numbers and you take away

1662
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: maybe his peak years with the Raiders, pretty much in

1663
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 2: line with his numbers, I mean, he's completing sixty eight

1664
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 2: percent of his passes. He came in the game with

1665
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: twenty one touchdowns only eight picks, so he's taking care

1666
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: of the football. So I mean, the numbers are very

1667
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: comparable to what he did as the Raiders quarterback. Like

1668
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 2: you mentioned, he has some additional weapons maybe of course,

1669
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: last year he had the leads leading rusher and maybe

1670
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: one of the top two or three receivers in the

1671
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: league in Devonte Adams. But it would be huge for

1672
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: the Saints if they could get into the postseason right now.

1673
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: They lead the Falcons thirty one to seventeen in nine

1674
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: minutes ago in the third quarter in that game. Now

1675
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: coming up later, we got a number of games that matter.

1676
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, the Green Bay Packers, if they win today,

1677
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 2: they're in. They make it to the postseason. And this

1678
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 2: was the big question for Jordan Love and this offense.

1679
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 2: And if you look at Love's numbers this year, with

1680
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: a decent day today, he'll pass four thousand yards passing.

1681
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: He's got thirty touchdown passes and an eleven picks. He

1682
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: had a better year than Aaron Rodgers had this year.

1683
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say for the Packers this has

1684
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: been a big thumbs up. Jordan Love, like any first

1685
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: year starter, has had some inconsistencies. But this is not

1686
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: a great Packers team. And if they do make the postseason,

1687
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good step forward with your new quarterback.

1688
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 3: I think they've found their franchise quarterback now. They drafted

1689
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 3: him years ago. He backed up a Hall of Famer

1690
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 3: and a four time MVP, and that is an enormous

1691
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: void to fill. And so you have to put this

1692
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 3: debut as a starter into context, Like think about what

1693
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 3: Mac Jones had to do in Foxborough. That's what Jordan

1694
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Love had to do in green Bay. Now it was

1695
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a complicated relationship with Aaron

1696
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 3: Rodgers and the Green Bay fans, especially on the way out,

1697
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: and the replacement was a little clunky, as it was

1698
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: for FARV when Aaron Rodgers was drafted in the first round.

1699
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,839
Speaker 3: But overall, I mean, this is a quarterback in Aaron Rodgers,

1700
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 3: who bought, who brought years of success to this franchise,

1701
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: and so replacing him is an enormous task. Now Mac

1702
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 3: Jones really struggled replacing Tom Brady, for example. Jordan Love

1703
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: having years to develop behind the scenes, it's been a

1704
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: much easier acclamation, but it's still really difficult to replace

1705
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 3: a talent like Aaron Rodgers. And so adding that context

1706
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: into this equation, this is an insanely successful season for

1707
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: Jordan Love. This is insanely successful. He handled the pressure,

1708
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: he handled the moment. He's got a big game ahead

1709
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: of him, and by the way, his contract is filled

1710
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 3: with playoff escalators, so he's got a lot to play

1711
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 3: for today. Can he handle that pressure? The Chicago Bears

1712
01:25:55,760 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 3: also want to play runer This is a very contentious relationship.

1713
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 3: This is the biggest rivalry in the NFL, oldest oldest

1714
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 3: rivalry in the NFL. Justin Fields has a lot to

1715
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 3: play for. On the other side, huge game coming up later.

1716
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Remember the Packers started two and five, two and five,

1717
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: when today a nine to eight record, We'll get them

1718
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: a wild card slot in the NFC. I was watching

1719
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 2: an interview with Sean McVay. Okay, actually last night on television,

1720
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,799
Speaker 2: we had a package piece about the La Rams season,

1721
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: and we had some quotes going into the season where

1722
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: remember the Rams are like, Okay, even if you get

1723
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: a healthy year out of Matthew Stafford, even if you

1724
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: get a healthy year out of Aaron Donald, you start

1725
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: the season without Cooper Cup. You have no wide receivers,

1726
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: you have no running back cam Akers remember started the

1727
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: first game at running back.

1728
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have zero depth on this team. I

1729
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: mean that was the big knock on the Rams. Zero depth.

1730
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: They have one injury, forget it, and all of a

1731
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: sudden they have veil Poka Nakua. Oh yeah, And then

1732
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks later, Kyra Wentiam shows up and

1733
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford stays healthy and Aaron Donald stays healthy. That

1734
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: defense around Aaron Donald, young young young, Jalen Ramsey, Bye bye,

1735
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner, Bye bye. He's surrounded by a bunch of kids.

1736
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: And I get back to Sean McVay, who, by the way,

1737
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: just announced he'll least be back in twenty to twenty four.

1738
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,440
Speaker 2: He has hinted strongly. You know, he's married to a supermodel,

1739
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 2: they have kids on the you know, this whole thing

1740
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: that he's willing to walk away from coaching before his

1741
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: fortieth birthday. Seriously, I mean, he's made a ton of money.

1742
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: Obviously he can move into an announcing booth. And have

1743
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: you know Dick Vermeil did this. Oh, I know it

1744
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: wasn't quite as young, but when he left the Eagles,

1745
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: he had total burnout. He spent fifteen years in an

1746
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: announcing booth, came back not once but twice, first with

1747
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: the Rams, then with the Chiefs, And I think that

1748
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: that's sort of in the mindset of Sean McVay. I

1749
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: don't know if the Rams gonna do anything about it.

1750
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: They could offer him all the money in the world.

1751
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 2: He seems to be the kind a guy that says, yeah,

1752
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1753
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 3: John Gruden's a good example of a coach who like

1754
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 3: left for broadcasting at a younger age than typically we're

1755
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: used to seeing coaches leave the game and take on

1756
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: an analyst role. It's there's precedent for this. It's it

1757
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: wouldn't be the first time, and it wouldn't be completely

1758
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 3: ridiculous to see it happen again with Sean McVeigh. However,

1759
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 3: I will say this coaches, especially, you have to be

1760
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 3: addicted to football. It can't just be a passion. It

1761
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 3: can't just be a hobby. It can't just be a

1762
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: passing fancy. It can't even be like the love affair

1763
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 3: that a player has with the sport, because frankly, at

1764
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 3: some point your body breaks down and then football isn't

1765
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 3: all that much fun.

1766
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 2: Trust me, I went through it later in my career.

1767
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: But for a coach, you've got to be addicted, like

1768
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: Andy Reid's addicted, oh my gosh, I mean more addicted coaching,

1769
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: or Wendy's Burger's well, he loves him a burger.

1770
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 3: But Andy Reid, if you look at Andy Reid's family life,

1771
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: it's a tragic story.

1772
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 2: Andy Reid has dedicated his life to the game.

1773
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 3: If you look at Bill Belichick, I mean, and his

1774
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: family life. It's not a comfy ride like these guys.

1775
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 3: They're number one to be successful, they're number one. Priority one.

1776
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 3: A priority is football, and that's a sacrifice, and it's

1777
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 3: a sacrifice that his young wife and the mother of

1778
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 3: his son is probably willing to do for now. But

1779
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 3: it's an enormous strain on the family. And so it's

1780
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,839
Speaker 3: either gonna take a very special relationship to keep everything

1781
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: personally afloat for Sean McVay, or he's gonna have to

1782
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 3: step away from the game. Because you cannot have success

1783
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: in this sport at this level unless you are so

1784
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 3: completely solely focused on having success in this sport at

1785
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 3: this level.

1786
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: All Right, the Buccaneers, and desperate need of a win

1787
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 2: today to clinch the NFC South, lead the Panthers six

1788
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: to nothing, and they are deep into Carolina territory. It's

1789
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 2: been a struggle today for Baker Mayfield and this Buccaneer's offense.

1790
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 2: They just have gotten nothing going throughout this game. A

1791
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: couple of field goals and that's it. Fortunately, they're playing

1792
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: a historically bad offense, which the Panthers have been by

1793
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 2: the way, I mean the Panthers could finish the season

1794
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: with back to back shutouts. I mean, you know how

1795
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: rare a shutout is in the NFL. It's a zero.

1796
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 2: Could you do it twice in a row to finish

1797
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 2: off your season?

1798
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I'm not. You don't quote me on this,

1799
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 3: but I think I've only played in two shutout games,

1800
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 3: or have only been on the team where shutouts occurred

1801
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 3: twice in my six year NFL career, once against Tennessee.

1802
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: Actually it was a snow game in Foxborough. We beat

1803
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 3: them like fifty nine to nothing. I mean we beat

1804
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 3: the breaks off of them. That's one of the biggest

1805
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 3: shoutouts of all time in NFL history. And I was

1806
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 3: on the receiving end, the losing side of a shutout

1807
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 3: against the Seahawks when I was with the Cardinals in

1808
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. That was an embarrassing day. I think they

1809
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: beat US fifty eight nothing at their place. But I mean,

1810
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 3: think about I don't know how many games including playoffs,

1811
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 3: was I a part of or was I on teams

1812
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 3: four throughout my career through six years. I mean, that's

1813
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 3: over one hundred I guess to have. Can you manage shutouts?

1814
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 3: I mean I would you'd have to look this up.

1815
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: A last time a team was shut out in consecutive

1816
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: weeks in the NFL. I don't know what the last

1817
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: time it's happened. But right now the Panthers have a

1818
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 2: big zero Buccaneers. It looks like are going to have

1819
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: to settle for a field goal attempt after. I will

1820
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 2: say this for Carolina's defense, they have brought it today.

1821
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has done nothing, nothing of note in this game.

1822
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 2: So it looks like the Bucks leading six to nothing,

1823
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 2: it will go for a field goal right now to

1824
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 2: try to increase the lead to nine to nothing. Again,

1825
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 2: the Bucks need to win today or they are out.

1826
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 2: The kick is good nine nothing Buccaneers ten, eighteen to

1827
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 2: go in the fourth quarter. There Meanwhile, the keep showing

1828
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick throughout this Jets Patriots, and there's nothing to

1829
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: watch on the field. It is a snow game. It

1830
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: is a blizzard.

1831
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: I mean the field is absolutely blanketed in snow.

1832
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 2: It's all field goals. Jets lead six to three. So

1833
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 2: first Belichick had the beanie on. Now he's got the

1834
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: scarf over his face. Hang on a second, this isn't

1835
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 2: as rare as you think the last time a team

1836
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: was shut out in consecutive games.

1837
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 3: So there have been many teams who have been shut

1838
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 3: out in consecutive games. Searching after nineteen seventy, the Oakland

1839
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: Braiders had been shut out in three consecutors.

1840
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 2: Remember that one nineteen eighty one.

1841
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 3: Okay, while the record of seven consecutive games is shared

1842
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 3: by the Louisville Colonels and the Hammond Pros. Yes, the

1843
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 3: most recent consecutive shutout was of the Cleveland Browns.

1844
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh, the Browns when they were one and thirty one

1845
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: over two consecutive Yes, yeah, so that on thirty one.

1846
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 2: That was the one and thirty one in two consecutive years.

1847
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even how do you even do that?

1848
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you one?

1849
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 3: Those are the huge Jackson went You remember the direct

1850
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 3: quote was there's no way we'll be worse next year

1851
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 3: the Lake and he jumped in Lake Erie and they

1852
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 3: were zero and sixteen the next season.

1853
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, yeah, all right.

1854
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 3: By the way, so getting shut out in back to

1855
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 3: back weeks is more common than actually shutting. Pitching shutouts

1856
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 3: as a defense is a lot more difficult in the

1857
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 3: modern era. I think the rams are the only recent

1858
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 3: team that's done it. The Rams had back to back

1859
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 3: shot out years when that that defense was really really humming.

1860
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 2: With U doesn't take away from how bad this Carolina

1861
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: offense has been all season long. All right, So again

1862
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: I keep watching Belichick thinking to myself, you're gonna lose

1863
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 2: it home to the Jets. Well, it's a three point team.

1864
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 3: You're saying that like it's a it's it's a fate

1865
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 3: that's been Bailey Zappy.

1866
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him make a play.

1867
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 3: Wait a second, though, Bailly Zappi is a non factor

1868
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 3: in this game.

1869
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: There is like three inches of snow in the field.

1870
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 3: This is a running backs game, Belly lev unless he

1871
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 3: can somehow muster forty yards rushing, I don't think they're

1872
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: gonna depend on. What did you think of Dalvin Cook

1873
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 3: joining the Ravens. Well, I, after sitting out essentially a

1874
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 3: whole season with the Jets, I think it's a smart

1875
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 3: signing by the Ravens because if you look at the

1876
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 3: way the Ravens are built down the stretch run here.

1877
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 3: If they have an injury at running back, they're in trouble,

1878
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 3: and so it's kind of playing keep away a little bit.

1879
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 3: If you have the roster flexibility to either cut somebody

1880
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 3: and sign him, or if you're comfortable, you know, putting

1881
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 3: somebody down on the practice squad who maybe you'll need

1882
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 3: later on, you can make a hard decision later on.

1883
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 2: Sign Dalvin Cook. I'm with it. I think it was

1884
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 2: a smart decision.

1885
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 3: And for Dalvin Cook, oh my gosh, it's like you

1886
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,520
Speaker 3: grabbed onto the tail of a dragon, like you can

1887
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl this year after being on one

1888
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 3: of the most dismal offenses in the NFL with the

1889
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 3: New York Jets.

1890
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 2: It happens, by the way, you see, Michael Irvin was

1891
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,600
Speaker 2: upset that he didn't signed with the Cowboys.

1892
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 3: That would have been an interesting signing too, because if

1893
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 3: you think about Tony Pollard, especially in the wake of

1894
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,839
Speaker 3: Zeke Elliott leaving the Cowboys and the way everybody was expecting.

1895
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 2: Okay, now it's Tony Pollard's time to shine.

1896
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 3: Another example of a running back who this offseason was

1897
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 3: a part of the course of us running backs. We

1898
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 3: don't get enough respect, we don't get enough money. How

1899
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 3: kind of an underwhelming season for the Dallas Cowboys compared

1900
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 3: to what expectations were. Dalvin Cook made sense going to

1901
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys.

1902
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 2: All right, Well, get back to these games as we're

1903
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 2: heading down the stretch, six games with a couple of

1904
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 2: huge games based on the outcome, who's going to be

1905
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, who's out? Much more coming out this

1906
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: as Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 9: Four man front for the Titan, dropping his Trevor looking

1908
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,440
Speaker 9: looking fire to the left.

1909
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: Side of the ankle. Lebo could be caught for the touchdown.

1910
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: Heavin ingram in the left corner of the end.

1911
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Speaker 9: Zone touchdown Jacksonville.

1912
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: That's w JAXLAM ten ten and FM ninety two point

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01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 2: five Jaguars Radio Network. So the Jags trying to get

1914
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: back in this game, trail the Titans twenty eight to

1915
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 2: twenty twelve minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Jags

1916
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 2: need to win to not only win their division, but

1917
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 2: to make it into the postseason. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger. We're live

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1927
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: scores right now quickly around the NFL. Thirteen minutes to

1928
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 2: go in the fourth quarter, Bengals thirty one zip over

1929
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 2: the Browns. Brown sitting everyone out of this game. The

1930
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: Lions still lead the Vikings twenty to thirteen. Start of

1931
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. There again, the Titans leading the Jaguars

1932
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty, and the Jags have the ball back,

1933
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: trying to get a comeback here and savage their season. Jets, Patriots,

1934
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: can we just call these the way right now?

1935
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 12: Sorry, before you move off that, let's update that real quick.

1936
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 12: Twenty six to thirteen Detroit Lions. I'm on Ross Saint

1937
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 12: Brown number ten touchdown on the season.

1938
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 3: No pro bo for you, No probo for that's that's

1939
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 3: still no probo for you.

1940
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 2: No pro Bowl.

1941
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 3: Jets, Patriots, Yeah, six to three. Jets started the fourth quarter.

1942
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 3: All right, Big games Saints and Falcons again, the winner

1943
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 3: stays alive as far as the playoffs are concern. Saints

1944
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 3: lead the Falcons thirty one to seventeen. We got thirteen

1945
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 3: minutes to go on the fourth quarter in that game,

1946
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 3: and the Buccaneers lead the Panthers nine to nothing. The

1947
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 3: Panthers were on the move and then Bryce Young got hit,

1948
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 3: fumble the ball and the Bucks get the ball back.

1949
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 3: So the Bucks in pretty good shape right now. Rich

1950
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 3: five point thirty five to go, lead nine to nothing,

1951
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 3: and again the Panthers well in their way to being

1952
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 3: shut out for the second straight week. Just doing Chicago

1953
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 3: a huge favor here because regardless of the outcome of

1954
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 3: the game between the Bears and the Packers later, even

1955
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 3: though I'm sure Bears fans would love, love love to

1956
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: knock the Packers out of the playoffs, they'll win the

1957
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 3: offseason because they have all that draft capital to work with,

1958
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 3: and if they trade down from that first overall pick,

1959
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 3: they'll have even more this season in years to come.

1960
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: Which if I were in Matt Eberflus and Ryan pohl shoes,

1961
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 3: that's exactly what I would do. With a little job

1962
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 3: security at least one more year. You stick it out

1963
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 3: with justin fields, you get some more draft capital, you

1964
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 3: bring in some players around that team to really improve

1965
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 3: the other pieces in place, and then my pitch to the

1966
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 3: ownership after the season, depending on how the season finishes,

1967
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,919
Speaker 3: whether it's a great season with justin fields where obviously

1968
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 3: they would be extended and things are going well, or

1969
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 3: even if it isn't, you could say, look, we just

1970
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 3: need to fix this quarterback position and we're all.

1971
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Set, We're ready to rock.

1972
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 3: So it's an important offseason for the Chicago Bears, and

1973
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 3: it's all thanks to a very good idea trading with

1974
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers and then the unfortunate reality for the

1975
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 3: Panthers on the other side of the Bryce Young selection.

1976
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 2: By the way, this is exactly where the Panthers were,

1977
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:25,799
Speaker 2: excuse me, the Packers were. Well, I'm trying to remember

1978
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:27,520
Speaker 2: what year did the Lions.

1979
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 3: I believe it was last year the Lions knocked the

1980
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 3: Packers out of the playoffs.

1981
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Right, the last game of the year. The game was

1982
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: in Green Bay, and the Lions won the game and

1983
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: knocked the Packers out the game. Right, So it's the

1984
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:42,759
Speaker 2: exact same scenario for the Packers.

1985
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Also different.

1986
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 2: And a different quarterback for the Packers, all right, So

1987
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 2: we'll see how that all plays out. Looking at some

1988
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 2: of the other games coming up a little bit later

1989
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 2: on Broncos and the Raiders. The Raiders have to make

1990
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 2: a decision as far as their coaches concerned. Antoni has

1991
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: come in and he certainly has won the support of

1992
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 2: his players. Players across the board are saying, this is

1993
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: our guy. But yesterday Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio

1994
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 2: NFL Insider, when asking about the Jim Harbaugh sweepstakes, if

1995
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: indeed he's leading leaving Michigan, we asked him, who's in

1996
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: the lead. He goes, the Raiders are in the lead.

1997
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 2: So how do you think that would play with the Raiders?

1998
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 2: You had bisatcha and you decide to go with Josh McDaniels.

1999
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 2: That failed, and you got a team that's one hundred

2000
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 2: percent behind this coach Pierce and you're going to give

2001
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 2: him his walking papers to bring in Jim Harbaugh. And

2002
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: with all the success Harbaugh has had, he comes with

2003
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 2: a complicated personality that can take over a team quite quickly.

2004
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 2: And he's been out of the NFL game for a

2005
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: while now, it's been a decade since he left the

2006
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers. I think it's I think

2007
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 2: it's the wrong move. I really do.

2008
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 3: I think what you have with Antonio Piers is a

2009
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 3: guy who understands the player mind at the NFL level.

2010
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: He's a guy who has been.

2011
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 3: Able to captivate a locker room and has been able

2012
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 3: to steady a ship that was frankly in turbulent waters

2013
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 3: with Josh McDaniels.

2014
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 2: He lost that locker.

2015
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 3: Room and Antonio Piers was able to put the pieces

2016
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 3: back together, and that Raiders defense was incredibly successful at

2017
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 3: times throughout the end of the season. And if they

2018
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 3: can build on that, you know, if they can build

2019
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 3: on that this offseason, maybe had some pieces in the

2020
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,919
Speaker 3: draft of free agency. If they can stabilize things at quarterback,

2021
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 3: which is the number one thing you need to do

2022
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 3: if you're the Raiders this offseason, well then you got

2023
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 3: a real shot next season at you know, doing some

2024
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 3: work in that division, because think about where the Chiefs

2025
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 3: are right now. That's unsteady Travis Kelcey's future. I don't

2026
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,560
Speaker 3: know how much longer he's going to be able to

2027
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 3: do this for He's looking like ages starting to catch

2028
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 3: up with him. Patrick Mahomes has looked uneven at times

2029
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 3: this season, even though he's barely the problem there. I

2030
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,839
Speaker 3: think the supporting cast is a bigger issue. Their defense

2031
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 3: has been good, but overall shakier for the Chiefs. Chargers

2032
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 3: were a disaster this season. They're looking for a new

2033
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 3: head coach. They still have a great quarterback, but that's

2034
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 3: amounted to a hill of beans, like an even record

2035
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 3: over justin Herbert's career with the Chargers so far, and

2036
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 3: Dev's a mess. So if there's ever a time to

2037
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 3: have a little continuity and consistency, the Raiders, in my opinion,

2038
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 3: would be foolish to get rid of Antonio Pierce.

2039
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 2: All Right, Chris was very quick to jump in with

2040
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 2: that Lion's touchdown. He did not jump in quickly when

2041
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 2: the Vikings immediately answered spat for you to finish. Jordan

2042
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Nadison on the receiving one hell of a shootout in Detroit. Yeah,

2043
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 2: they've held so far to you held Nick Mullins to

2044
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty one yards passy in this game.

2045
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 2: At the start of the fourth quarter, I just decided,

2046
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: now he's just gonna chuck it down on the field

2047
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: and hopes Addison or Jefferson are there well, Jefferson seeing

2048
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 2: Bo's face when Addison when Addison caught that. Though I

2049
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 2: think Bo has some interests.

2050
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's some interesting.

2051
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's not spoil things. It's it's time

2052
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 3: to find out what's trending right now.

2053
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 2: The true expert on what's going on around the National

2054
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 2: Football Lake is ready to roll Botibolago.

2055
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 7: Yes, I am.

2056
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 8: Let's actually keep talking about this Vikings Lions game because

2057
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 8: Justin Jefferson came into today's game with eight hundred and

2058
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 8: eighty two yards. Well, he now has ten receptions, one

2059
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy six yards and a touchdown. He missed

2060
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,799
Speaker 8: seven games, he still broke one thousand receiving yards.

2061
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 2: He's still Steve. If I had to choose one wide

2062
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 2: receiver in this league, and there are a lot of

2063
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 2: great whites, yeah, I'd still take Justin Jell.

2064
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, like seven games missed and he didn't play for

2065
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 8: like two, like you know, had limited in two games.

2066
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 8: Oh no, he's still he is still kicking butts. But

2067
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 8: the Lions are on top of the Vikings twenty seven

2068
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 8: to twenty. Early in the fourth quarter, it's.

2069
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,520
Speaker 2: Been still all bangals.

2070
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 7: Against the Browns. Jake Browning one hundred.

2071
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 8: And fifty seven yards, fifty six yards in the air,

2072
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 8: three touchdowns, one interception, Bengals on top thirty one zero.

2073
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 8: Early in the fourth quarter, the Jaguars managed to cut

2074
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 8: their deficit to eight after Trevor Lawrence connected with Evan Ingram.

2075
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 8: They currently have the ball at Tennessee's one yard line.

2076
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 8: It's third and goals, so they're knocking on the door

2077
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 8: and they're down by eight to the Titans twenty eight

2078
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 8: to twenty eight minutes to go. Yes, the Jags can

2079
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 8: win the AFC South title if they come back and

2080
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 8: beat the Titans. Trevor Lawrence, in his first came back

2081
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 8: two hundred and fifty six yards, two touchdowns in the year,

2082
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 8: also two interceptions. Derrick Henry fifteen carries one hundred and

2083
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 8: forty eight yards and one touchdown.

2084
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 7: The Jets are.

2085
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 8: Beating the Patriots still, sixty three is the score. We've

2086
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,719
Speaker 8: gone scoreless so far in the second half of this one.

2087
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 8: The Saints have extended their lead over the Falcons. Thirty

2088
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 8: four to seventeen is the score. Ten minutes to go

2089
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 8: in this one, and the Buccaneers.

2090
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 7: Are beating the Panthers. But it's not the type of

2091
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:54,520
Speaker 7: game I was expecting.

2092
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 8: Fellas Baker Mayfield has just known for one hundred and

2093
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 8: twenty three yards. All of the scoring for Tampa Bay

2094
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 8: has been goals. Nine zero is the score. I think

2095
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 8: this game is about to end in a couple of

2096
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 8: what two minutes or something like that, So we'll see

2097
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 8: if they can hold on because they're only up nine zero.

2098
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 8: For the game to come later today between the Chiefs

2099
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 8: and the Chargers, the Chiefs have rolled out.

2100
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 7: Tight end Travis Kelce for their season finale. This was

2101
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 7: a coach's.

2102
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 8: Decision, so his streak of seven straight seasons of at

2103
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 8: least one thousand receiving yards coming.

2104
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 7: To an end. He ends with nine hundred and eighty four.

2105
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm watching right now. Jacksonville. They had Trevor Lawrence

2106
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 2: on a fourth and goal one yard line and he

2107
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 2: tried to sneak and actually extend his arm. Did he

2108
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: fumble it? Well, they're saying, I don't know if the

2109
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 2: ball reached the goal line. I thought they got a

2110
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 2: bad march.

2111
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, and they come up it is a

2112
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 3: short and over all that's this.

2113
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 2: So he tries to reach over and a short. Yeah,

2114
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: he is short. I thought they got jobbed on the

2115
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: mark on third down. I thought it was like the

2116
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 2: half yard line. They ruled it at the one he

2117
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 2: rolled out through an incomplete pass. They went for it,

2118
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: so they Shouldacksonville having to win, is still down eight.

2119
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 3: They should have just perfectly executed the brotherly shove and

2120
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 3: then they would have scored that touchdown. Gang.

2121
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you can put a paper in between

2122
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 8: the ball and the end zone there.

2123
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe an indux like an index car. That's literally

2124
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 2: all that was needed. All right, Well, it's interesting. Still

2125
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 2: seven minutes to go, plenty of time left, but and

2126
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 2: the Titans will have to take over their own inch

2127
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 2: yard line there, Moncey, did we cover it all there?

2128
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 2: We did?

2129
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 1: We did.

2130
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 2: We're good, They're all good, all right, Monzi, thank you

2131
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 2: very much. Once again, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2132
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 2: So the Jaguars in need of a win. Very simple.

2133
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 2: If they lose, they are out, they are done. Steeler

2134
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 2: fans will rejoice because that will mean the Steelers have

2135
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 2: punched their ticket to the postseason. Saints are pulling away

2136
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 2: from the Falcons, already leading thirty four to seventeen. They

2137
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 2: have a first down after a Desmond Ritter fumble, so

2138
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 2: it looks like the Falcon season's over now. If the

2139
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 2: Buccaneers win and they have a ball first in goal

2140
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 2: at the Carolina ten yard line, leading nine to ouh, thing,

2141
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 2: we've hit the two minute warning. Even if the Bucks

2142
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Speaker 2: win to clinch the division, the Saints are not eliminated

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Speaker 2: as a possible wildcard team. Yeah yeah, now you are

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01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 2: the man in charge of these Saints. Okay, and the

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01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 2: wildcard scenarios for the up the notes again, So tell me.

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01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 2: Let's let's assume the Buccaneers hang on against the Panthers

2147
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 2: and win the NFC South, the Saints beat the Falcons

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01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 2: to get to nine and eight. Correct? What did the

2149
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 2: Saints need to get in as a wildcard? I know

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01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 2: they would have to have Green Bay lose to Chicago.

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01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Do they have to have What else do they have

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01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: to have happen? Do they have to have? I think

2153
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 2: they have to have Seattle lose as well? Playoff clinching scenarios.

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01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: I first, Saints, Saints is a wildcard?

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01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody relaxed. Yes, I think they need for sure,

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01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 3: they need Okay, they need the Packers to lose. I

2157
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 3: think they need Seattle to lose.

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01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 2: I think that's accurate, although I'm having trouble pulling them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, both those teams will go to eight

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01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 2: and nine. They'd be nine and eight. Is there any

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01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 2: other team that they need to lose? Here we go,

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01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 2: here we go. Okay, for Saints to be a waldcard,

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01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 2: Saints to be.

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Speaker 3: A wildcard, this is what is at or this is

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Speaker 3: what needs to happen. Yes, okay, do.

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Speaker 2: Not use the word time. Well, that's gonna be different,

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01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: Right, So New Orleans win plus the Seattle loss or

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01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 3: time plus a green Bay loss, all right.

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Speaker 2: So both that makes sense? All right? So in other words,

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01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 2: the Saints with a win are still alive, but they

2172
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 2: would need Green Bay to lose at home to the Bears,

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01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 2: and then they would have to have the Seahawks lose

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Speaker 2: on the road against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that would get the Saints in as a

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Speaker 3: walk and by the way, not completely improblem no. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you look at the way this season is, especially

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Speaker 3: with Arizona, the teams that they've been able to sneak

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Speaker 3: up on, oh my goodness, and the Jacksonville Jaguars with

2180
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 3: zero discipline on their defensive line were just drawn off sides.

2181
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 3: And so the Titans, who just got the turnover at

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01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 3: their own half yard line get five yards of breathing space.

2183
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 3: What a completely boneheaded, undisciplined play by this Jaguars defense,

2184
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Speaker 3: who in recent weeks has really faltered and has been

2185
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 3: a big reason why they've looked so shaky down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: The Buccaneers cannot get in the end zone or are

2187
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 2: they just taking a knee right now? Think they're just

2188
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: taking a knee. We're into the final seconds. The Buccaneers

2189
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: are going to win the NFC South. In fact, that

2190
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 2: game is now over. Buccaneers beat the Panthers nine to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Panthers finished the season two and fifteen, getting shut out

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Speaker 2: in each of their last two games. And Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are your NFC South Championshi.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I mean all they had to do was win.

2195
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 3: They just had to win and they'd win the NFC South.

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Speaker 3: So there it is. The South is decided with a

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Speaker 3: nine nothing victory. Baker Mayfield, who is limping around today,

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Speaker 3: he had a pretty decent day for the Bucks and

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Speaker 3: they survived to win. And that's all that matters, right

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01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and this was the playoff game for

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Speaker 3: the Bucks. If you win, you advance, and that's all

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Speaker 3: you care about. They live to face whoever's next, and

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01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 3: they get to face them in Tampa Bay because they

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01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 3: clinched the division.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's either going to be the Eagles or the

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01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys that they know. Now you talk about wishful thinking.

2207
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 2: We have one Chris here, who his Lions right now

2208
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 2: is still hanging on to a twenty seven to twenty

2209
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Speaker 2: lead against the Vikings. If the Lions win, they get

2210
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 2: a sent to the two seed if both the Cowboys

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01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 2: and the Eagles lose. Now, both of those teams are

2212
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 2: on the road. The Eagles are taking on the five

2213
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 2: and eleven Giants and the Cowboys are playing the four

2214
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 2: and twelve Commander's Division rivals. Chris, give us a scenario

2215
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 2: where you actually believe that both the Eagles will lose

2216
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 2: to the Giants and the Cowboys lose to the Commanders.

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01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 12: So I think the Eagles loss was everything to play for.

2218
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 12: This is a lot more realistic just seeing their defensive

2219
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 12: struggles right now. We also just saw the Giants were

2220
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 12: like had two different opportunities where they could have beaten

2221
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 12: the Rams last week. We're all still praising the Rams,

2222
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 12: but if Saquon Barkley gets his hands on that two

2223
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 12: point conversion or they don't miss a field goal, the

2224
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 12: Giants win that game. So the Giants are still fighting

2225
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 12: very hard at the end of the year. Commanders, that

2226
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 12: one's a little more tricky. The Commanders haven't won a

2227
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 12: game since the middle of November. However, here's the guarantee.

2228
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 12: Roy Rivera will be fired tomorrow. That's one hundred. But

2229
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 12: this spot last year, Week eighteen, the Commanders did beat

2230
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 12: the Cowboys. Oh yeah, yeah, that's not happening. I'm I'm

2231
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 12: just saying like this, this isn't impossible. This is something that.

2232
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 2: Will roll over talking about you know, we always know

2233
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 2: that every year you're gonna have six or seven on

2234
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: Iver six and a half coaches are fired every year, right,

2235
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 2: that's we've already had three with Carolina, the Chargers, and

2236
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 2: the Raiders looking for coaches. Okay, the Cowboys, Mike McCarthy,

2237
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: go ahead, if they go belly up in the first

2238
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs again.

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Speaker 3: Like if they lose at home to the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 3: or if they lose on the road to Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: If they lose in the first round of the playoffs.

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01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 3: Yep, oh, I'm just giving you likely scenarios like if

2243
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 3: they're the first wildcard team.

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01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 2: More, let's say they end up as a wildcard team

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Speaker 2: and go to Tampa. That's what I said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they go to Tampa and they lose, or if

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01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 3: they host Thegreenway Packers and they lose.

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01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 2: You're saying, Mike McCarthy gone, gone, Wow, gone. I mean

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01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 2: the clock is ticking on Jerry right, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know he's not getting any younger.

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Speaker 11: Do you think the other guy in the nfcas is

2252
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 11: in the same scenario.

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01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 3: Who's that interesting thought? I don't think so. I mean,

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01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 3: both of these guys are safe.

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Speaker 2: Well, Sirianni at least got to a Super Bowl.

2256
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Speaker 11: I mean, so Mike Doug Peterson won one and he

2257
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 11: got canned after a bad year.

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01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 2: That is true. All took.

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01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 3: But this isn't a bad year though the Eagles, I

2260
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 3: mean the Eagles it was, it wasn't as profoundly dominant

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01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 3: as it was last year.

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01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking.

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01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 12: Do you want Nick, he's going pretty hard today for

2264
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 12: the Tampa Bay years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like we were going on here.

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01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 11: I think the Nick Sirianni stuff works if they're winning games,

2267
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 11: and when they're not.

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Speaker 2: Coach it was like Belichick. Boy, it really works when

2269
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 2: he's winning.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and so Belichick's about to get canned, isn't he not?

2271
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 3: According to Rich Well, no, no, No. What I said

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01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 3: is I think the most likely scenario is that he

2273
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 3: stays in New England. However, could I see Belichick game fired? Absolutely,

2274
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,839
Speaker 3: he's had. First of all, Mac Jones is starting quarterback,

2275
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 3: the most important position on the team has regressed year

2276
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 3: after year after year since they took him with a

2277
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 3: fifteenth overall pick.

2278
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 2: That's not good.

2279
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 3: Second, in all that that team, it feels like it's

2280
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 3: like just completely there's just a dearth of talent everywhere

2281
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 3: you look.

2282
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 2: Who's the superstar? Pick one?

2283
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 3: Who's the superstar on the New England Patriots. You go

2284
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: around the league and you can pick a superstar off

2285
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 3: of just about any roster, Like where's the star play?

2286
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 12: It's not best when the top player on that roster

2287
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 12: is probably Remandra Stevenson to start the.

2288
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 11: Year, it's him or Barmore. And that's not moving needles

2289
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 11: for anybody.

2290
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, it doesn't get anybody exciting. Well, that's

2291
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 2: all in Belichick. He's made every pick. And that's my point.

2292
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 3: So can I see an argument for him to lose

2293
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 3: his job, Yeah, absolutely, I just don't think he will.

2294
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 3: I think the most likely scenario is, based on the

2295
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 3: contract he just signed, he'll stay. However, Yeah, I mean, look,

2296
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 3: good coaches have been fired for less than what Syriani

2297
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 3: has done, for less than what McCarthys.

2298
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 2: Arnie Schoenheimer was fired after a fourteen and two season

2299
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 2: by the Chargers fourteen and two, Yes, and never coached again.

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01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: All right, Jet's had a field goal nine three over

2301
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots and what could be the final game ever

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01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 2: for Belichick on the sideline for the Patriots. We roll

2303
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 2: on to the finish line on these six games around

2304
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 2: the NFL. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 1: One more neel down.

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Speaker 4: Here's the final staff of the game, the Baker Mayfield,

2307
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 4: The deal is down.

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Speaker 1: The shoutout.

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Speaker 4: Preserve the Buccaneers win our third consecutive NFC South Championship. Celebrate,

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01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 4: Celebrate Buccaneers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are on the playoffs

2311
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 4: with a nine to eight record. Baker Mayfield, new quarterback

2312
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 4: Chase mclopfw within a new kicker. They both play a big,

2313
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 4: big part of the successful team has had.

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 3: That's ninety eight Rock Buccaneers Radio Network.

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01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: Not overwhelming emotion.

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01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 3: The amazing thing is, by the way, essentially they're the

2317
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 3: same team under Baker Mayfield they were under Tom Brady

2318
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 3: last year. The voice of the Buccaneers there, Yeah, giving

2319
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 3: the fans like the.

2320
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: Directive or the players to celebrate.

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Speaker 12: Yes, we're doing this in talkback. Yes, it might be

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01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 12: one of my favorite clips. Celebrate, Celebrate, Celebrate Buccaneers. A

2323
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 12: little bit of I'm a little bit of Sean Connery there.

2324
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 12: It's like one of the staws in the sky, just

2325
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 12: pinholes the cushion of the night.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, well, The fact is they didn't miss tom Brady.

2327
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean, in so many ways, s Baker Mayfield just

2328
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 2: picked up exactly where tom Brady was. This is the

2329
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 2: same team as they were last year.

2330
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 3: Honestly speaking, Baker Mayfield is just as good as tom Brady,

2331
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 3: just like you said, Steve, just this year at the

2332
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 3: end of tom Brady's like fifty eight year in the league.

2333
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Speaker 2: No take, I mean, I agree with what you're saying.

2334
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the results are the same.

2335
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 3: The results are the same, and who knows, I mean,

2336
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 3: honestly the results could be identical, meaning you got to

2337
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 3: play Dallas in the first round of the postseason.

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, they might play Philadelphia. They could right now,

2339
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 2: it's looking like the Eagles, right. But I mean if

2340
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: they were to knock off the Eagles, even in Tampa,

2341
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 2: that would be a big story. Oh it would be

2342
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 2: really I mean, and that would be it for Nick Sirianni.

2343
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, bo, if the Eagles as the

2344
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 2: wild card going to Tampa and lose to the Bucks

2345
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 2: in the first round, would that be the end of

2346
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 2: Nick Siriani?

2347
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 11: I think so. Yeah.

2348
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 2: Wow, jeez, you heard one year removed from the Super Bowl.

2349
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe this.

2350
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 3: This is I mean, hey, it's always it's always easier

2351
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 3: with five or even bring in an eleven and five,

2352
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni.

2353
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean potentially a twelve win Nick Sirianni.

2354
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 11: Something something I think I mentioned with Steve yesterday or no,

2355
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 11: it was with Martin and VJ later in the afternoon.

2356
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 11: Remember last year when we gave the Vikings a bunch

2357
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 11: of crap for losing a bunch of one or winning

2358
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 11: a bunch of one score games.

2359
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yea yeah.

2360
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 11: Look at what the Eagles have done in their wins

2361
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 11: this year.

2362
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 2: But hang on pause.

2363
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 3: So you're saying, and by the way, the Vikings smartly

2364
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 3: retained their twelve win double digit winning. I forget how

2365
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 3: many wins, but they're double digit winning. Head coach Kevin O'Connell,

2366
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 3: you're telling me a year removed from a Super Bowl

2367
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 3: berth and after a twelve win season even because it

2368
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 3: didn't wait wait, because they won too many of those

2369
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 3: games close.

2370
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: They're like, that's it. We've seen it a few idiots.

2371
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 11: I think the willingness by Jeffrey Lurry to move on

2372
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 11: from Doug Peterson the way he did, Yeah, wouldn't mean

2373
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 11: that Nick Sirianni is necessarily safe. I think that Nick

2374
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 11: Sirianni's act kinda but it rubs people the wrong way.

2375
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 11: If the Eagles aren't winning all these football games.

2376
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I definitely look that is true of any

2377
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 3: head coach. And we kind of had that conversation at break,

2378
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 3: but I will I will ask you this. Do you

2379
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 3: think that the more of a reason why Doug Peterson

2380
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 3: got the hook was because of disagreements internally.

2381
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 11: With the front off I think with the staffing and

2382
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 11: stuff like that. But I mean that's kind of popping

2383
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 11: up again here. Too with the Brian Johnson and then

2384
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 11: the quick switch, quick switch to Matt Patricia.

2385
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 2: All right, we have one game currently going on the

2386
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 2: matters that is still in play, the Jaguars and the Titans.

2387
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: They just got to the two minute warning. Oh just missed.

2388
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 1: The lake?

2389
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 2: How really? Right there? That was within inches of a

2390
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 2: huge play for Jacksonville that would have put him into

2391
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 2: prime say position.

2392
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 3: This is the second time in this game, and they

2393
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 3: converted on the last one for a touchdown that Calvin

2394
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 3: Ridley has been running four to five yards behind the

2395
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 3: Titans defense wide open. I mean that ball, if you

2396
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 3: want to nitpick the throw, I mean it was a

2397
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 3: little long, but Calvin Ridley got both his hands on

2398
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 3: that one. Oh my gosh, what what a missed opportunity

2399
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 3: there for the Jacksonville Jaguars with one fifty three remaining,

2400
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 3: all right, third and two from their own thirty three

2401
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 3: yard line, trying to keep the and now they're gonna

2402
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 3: have a fourth down, they gotta go for it. I mean,

2403
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 3: you have no I mean there is nothing you can do.

2404
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 3: You are out of time out.

2405
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean, let's go, all right, so fourth down play

2406
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 2: season on the line. I know the Jaguars and we're

2407
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 2: getting closed, but I think too long.

2408
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 3: Nase fans are getting fired down the ball over here,

2409
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 3: all right, they're running to the line. We have second

2410
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 3: sc calculate on what's going to happen here.

2411
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 2: I say conversion too, I say conversion, alright? What up?

2412
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:16,520
Speaker 3: What up?

2413
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 2: What happens next?

2414
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 10: Takes the snap drops back Rose one over the middle

2415
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 10: tip and I'm.

2416
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 1: The inner terrible.

2417
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 9: It's intercepted by Tony Adams, and Tony Adams will.

2418
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: Just turn turtle and cover up the football.

2419
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 2: That's Jets Radio Network and we'll give you a full

2420
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 2: update on what they're doing to the New England Patriots.

2421
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,960
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2426
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 2: inside two minutes to go and the Jets scored a

2427
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: touchdown on a Breese Hall play. B Reese Hall has

2428
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 2: get this earned seventy four yards rushing on thirty six

2429
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 2: carries for the Jets today against the vaunted Belichick defense.

2430
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 2: The Jets went for two inside two minutes ago, leading

2431
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 2: fifteen to thirteen, instead of just going to sixteen and

2432
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 2: thirteen sixteen, sixteen to three, they went for two. They

2433
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,680
Speaker 2: lead seventeen to three. They flashed to Bob Kraft, the

2434
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 2: owner of the Patriots. He jumped out of his chair.

2435
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:29,839
Speaker 2: He looked like yelling at somebody, give me a phone.

2436
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 2: Belichick and the entire second half they have shown him

2437
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 2: fifty times. He's got a mask over his face. He

2438
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 2: has no headset on. He obviously his mouth is covered.

2439
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the entire second half. Wait a second, no,

2440
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 2: did they just recover the on site? Did they just

2441
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 2: try an onside kick? What the hell just happened here?

2442
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 2: We had a fumble on the kick.

2443
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the ball he was down, he was okay,

2444
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 3: okay because of the kickoff play, the ball went loose,

2445
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 3: did it?

2446
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 2: I think? All out?

2447
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 3: Because the returner may have fumbled the football. That's what

2448
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 3: it's being looked at right now.

2449
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 2: That news for you. This game is over. Let me

2450
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 2: or not a fumble. It is not out of the

2451
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 2: outcome of this game.

2452
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 3: So the Jets turn over the football on downs, okay,

2453
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 3: and then the New England Patriots throw an interception. However,

2454
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 3: the Jets defender who intercepted the pass then fumbled the

2455
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 3: football and the Jets got it back. Followed by two

2456
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 3: plays later, Zappi throws another interception, followed by the Breesehall

2457
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 3: touchdown rush on the ensuing drive. Can okay, can the

2458
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 3: Belichick era in New England or all together? If he

2459
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 3: decides to retire from coaching, can it.

2460
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 2: End this way?

2461
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 10: Yes?

2462
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 1: This is going to be.

2463
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 2: The party, and this way because I got news for you.

2464
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 2: It's only gonna get worse. How do you It's not

2465
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 2: going to get better. I'm watching this roster is deplete talent. Okay.

2466
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 2: By the way, time for a quick conspiracy theory. Yeah,

2467
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 2: what if Tom Brady comes out of retirement places for

2468
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,040
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots last next I seem to walk

2469
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 2: into his thirty six million dollars a year job.

2470
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 3: Next, he said, He said on his podcast, he said,

2471
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 3: I would have come back. I would have not retired

2472
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 3: if it weren't for my friends throwing me a surprise

2473
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 3: retirement party.

2474
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 2: By the way, You're welcome, Tom. You know you know

2475
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 2: what I would say right now if ire were the

2476
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 2: Patriots I would take a knee at home to run

2477
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 2: out the final seconds.

2478
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: Man, I would.

2479
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 2: I would. It's seventeen to three, there's forty two seconds left.

2480
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 2: You just had your quarterback sack Belichick is he hasn't

2481
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 2: been miked up the entire second half. How do you

2482
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,120
Speaker 2: know that you haven't been paying close enough attention to him?

2483
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 3: That tire he've shown him a thousand times in the

2484
02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 3: second half. There has to be a reason. He's got

2485
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 3: no head set on, his mouth is covered. It's freezing, obviously.

2486
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 11: Robert raw he did a B line to the exit that. Yeah,

2487
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 11: he got up, shook hands and he.

2488
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, hang on hand. He's not leaving. He's not leaving.

2489
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 3: He probably just came down to the sideline to shake

2490
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 3: Bill's hand and say, Bell, Now, it's important for you'll

2491
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 3: understand next season, we're gonna have a much better season.

2492
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you after a break. I'll

2493
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 2: tell you another coach that might be in trouble. Arthur

2494
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 2: Smith and the Falcons lost forty eight to seventeen to

2495
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 2: the Falcon to the Saints. So the Falcons lose forty

2496
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 2: eight to seventeen. Arthur Blank was down on the field

2497
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 2: as well, looking too. Look at Belichick. Is he adding layers?

2498
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 10: See?

2499
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 2: Look he's wearing a heads carry now he is? He

2500
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 2: put one on, and he was told the Bob Kraft

2501
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:36,640
Speaker 2: was coming to the field. He just put one on.

2502
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 3: You're telling you're telling me that he put that on

2503
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 3: just so to Bob Kraft that he's actually coaching today.

2504
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 2: His mouth is covered so he can't hear him. Is

2505
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 2: you are?

2506
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 1: You are all that? I'll tell you right now?

2507
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 2: Why are they showing him constantly? Right now? Belchick stands

2508
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 2: on business. I thought we had this conversey. Do you

2509
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 2: punt right now?

2510
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:57,440
Speaker 3: Or you go for it on fourth and seven with

2511
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 3: twenty six seconds to go down fourteen?

2512
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I would punt. You know, you're real sick man.

2513
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 2: All right, they're gonna go for it. They're going to

2514
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,200
Speaker 2: go for it. They're trolling by two scores. There's a

2515
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 2: comeback here happening, Foxborough. Do you believe in miracles? Why

2516
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 2: runs out of bouts three yards short of the first

2517
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 2: down that ends the season.

2518
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, belly, oh, now he took off the headset.

2519
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but it's.

2520
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 11: He can't even be sure that that's actually Bill Belichick.

2521
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 2: You guys.

2522
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 12: I mean it could be as you remember last year,

2523
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 12: he's in He's in the HVAC right now, about to

2524
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 12: descend upon Steve Harmon.

2525
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the whole DeMar Hamlin. Is it or isn't

2526
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 3: it a body double? Like maybe it is a Belichick

2527
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 3: body double today.

2528
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 2: I have no idea. But whoever that that's four and thirteen,

2529
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 2: it's me, It was me along Austin. Right now.

2530
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 3: Bill is currently in LA before kickoff of the Chargers game.

2531
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 3: Actually is that in Denver? He might be in Denver

2532
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 3: before kickoff of the Chargers game interviewing for the head

2533
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 3: coaching job. He has a body double on the sideline

2534
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 3: right now, who's dressed like a ninja?

2535
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick wearing the face mask?

2536
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 3: All right, I do have a question, another tiebreaker question

2537
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 3: for the playoffs.

2538
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 2: So yes, and David Jacksonville Jaguars loss. They were eliminated

2539
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 2: the Steelers in the playoffs. The seven teams in the

2540
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 2: playoffs are set in the AFC now Ravens, Dolphins, Chiefs, Texans, Browns,

2541
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Bills and Steelers. Yes, his question is this go ahead?

2542
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 2: If Miami loses, correct? Are they the five seed? They

2543
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 2: would be eleven and six the Browns are eleven and six.

2544
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 3: Well, Buffalo would be the would be the so you're

2545
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 3: not talking about I say, who would be the five seeds?

2546
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 2: I look at Miami. Yeah, is Miami. Does Miami win

2547
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 2: the tie break over the Browns? The would both be

2548
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 2: eleven and six? Anybody, anybody, because I'm trying to figure

2549
02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 2: out the Texans now end up winning the division. Think

2550
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,480
Speaker 2: about that for a secon and they won their division, so

2551
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:05,440
Speaker 2: they will be hosting right now, it says the Cleveland Browns,

2552
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:08,920
Speaker 2: but if the Dolphins lose, they would fall to eleven

2553
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 2: and six. The Bills win the East, so it'll be

2554
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 2: a tie break between the Browns and the Dolphins. On

2555
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 2: Brown's Dolphins tiebreak. Oh, they're showing the resume at Belichick.

2556
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 2: I think he's already been fired. You think that's it, Well,

2557
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. They're they're showing his his all time resume.

2558
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 2: Now this can't possibly be over, guys, He'll be back.

2559
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 2: Everything's fine. Team.

2560
02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 11: I saw the report that Craft wants to avoid another

2561
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 11: Brady scenario, so I feel like if it does end,

2562
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 11: there's going to be a mutual parting of ways by

2563
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 11: the end of the week.

2564
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 2: Here, I don't think there'll be anything that I agree with.

2565
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 2: It's no mutual party.

2566
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean we know it won't be. Well, he's the

2567
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 3: right not to be fired. What else would you call it?

2568
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if he's not back, he has a

2569
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 2: contract's fire.

2570
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,200
Speaker 11: Speaking speaking of earning the right to be fired, have

2571
02:07:57,240 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 11: you guys seen Arthur Smith postgame here with Dennis Allen

2572
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,880
Speaker 11: getting he was he's screaming at him for scoring a

2573
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 11: touchdown to make it forty eight to seventeen instead of

2574
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 11: forty one to seventeen.

2575
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here's what happens. So Tyra Matthew had an interception,

2576
02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 2: we turned it to the one yard line. Was asking

2577
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 2: Rich you're up forty one to seventeen. You have a

2578
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 2: first down the one yard line. Do you score a

2579
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 2: touchdown or you just take a knee to run it out?

2580
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 2: They went for the touchdown. Yeah, the answer is always yes.

2581
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 2: You score more? Yeah, more, more and more. All right.

2582
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 2: Then on the NFC side, now the Packers win, they're in.

2583
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear? Okay, go ahead? What's the

2584
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 2: conference tiebreakers? Go like this? Yeah?

2585
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 3: Head to head, but there were no head to head

2586
02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 3: games between the Browns and the Dolphins. Okay, next to

2587
02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 3: be conference record, conference record, So you got to count up.

2588
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 2: If the Dolphins lose today, they would be what in

2589
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 2: the conference? See that? I don't know, So then we

2590
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 2: have some homework to do.

2591
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 3: Then it goes to common games where you played against

2592
02:08:56,240 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 3: light competitors. Then it goes to strength of victory, which

2593
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:00,680
Speaker 3: gets pretty abstract.

2594
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 2: I got I got the numbers right now.

2595
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 3: How good the teams were that you beat, which the

2596
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 3: Browns undoubtedly would have beaten hold on, I got it

2597
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 3: right now. Then of course he goes to allowed combined ranking.

2598
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 3: Forget all that, forget all that. The Browns of the

2599
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 3: five seed. So the Browns ended up with an eight

2600
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 3: and four conference record. If Miami loses, they'd be seven

2601
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 3: and five in the conference. So the Browns are locked

2602
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 3: into the five seeds. So how about this game, guys,

2603
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 3: Cleveland at Houston. Cleveland at Houston. Joe Flacco's elite. Joe

2604
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:38,919
Speaker 3: Flacco's elite, So is c J. Stroud Buddy. Joe Flacco

2605
02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 3: in his historic Super Bowl run, beat Andrew Luck, then

2606
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:49,120
Speaker 3: he beat Peyton Manning. Then he beat Tom Brady, then

2607
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 3: he beat Colin Kaepernick in comeback fashion. Joe, if they

2608
02:09:54,880 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 3: if bo I'm telling you, Golan at Houston, who take

2609
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,280
Speaker 3: one million points to seven, I'm taking the Cleveland.

2610
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:10,600
Speaker 11: Browns, and I love and what he's done this year.

2611
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 11: I just got to take the.

2612
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 12: I'm not even doing like the Flacco thing right now.

2613
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:18,160
Speaker 12: That is a top five defense in Cleveland, like on

2614
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 12: top of everything we do with with Jim that has

2615
02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 12: a top five defense.

2616
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 3: But hang on a second, like, where does Flacco rank

2617
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 3: if the defense is top five? Is Flacco like he

2618
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 3: ranks elite? What's higher than one alpha elite?

2619
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank you. By the way, if Miami loses, asterisks.

2620
02:10:38,160 --> 02:10:41,440
Speaker 2: If Miami loses, that means they end up as the

2621
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 2: sixth seed and may be heading to Kansas City. Miami

2622
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 2: at Kansas City. That's a fun game.

2623
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,880
Speaker 3: I think both of those games are really fun sALS

2624
02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 3: make fights, right, you know. So Cleveland with their bullyed

2625
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 3: defense going against the rookie quarterback and Demico Ryans at

2626
02:10:59,320 --> 02:11:03,240
Speaker 3: home in Houston, Joe Flacco off the couch taking naps

2627
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:07,520
Speaker 3: at halftime of primetime games. I mean, that's intriguing. And

2628
02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:13,040
Speaker 3: then Dolphins Chiefs two of the well arguable over the

2629
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:17,280
Speaker 3: past five seasons, Hot were three seasons highest powered offenses.

2630
02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a fun watch too. Now, if you're

2631
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, you much rather play the Steelers. So if

2632
02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 3: the Bills lose.

2633
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 1: From the Fox Sports Studios in.

2634
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 2: Lost, hello, yeah, exactly, already getting a starter. Next week,

2635
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 2: we got all kinds horns, fire them up. If the

2636
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins prevail, that means that the Bills will get

2637
02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:42,560
Speaker 2: in as the seventh seed, moving the Steelers up to

2638
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 2: the sixth seed. So Kansas City would like to see Pittsburgh,

2639
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 2: I would think, rather than Miami. Oh yeah, you rather

2640
02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 2: see Mason Rudolph or Tuatunga by looa Mason Rudolph however,

2641
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 2: but then again that's look and wait wait, TJ.

2642
02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 3: Watt's dealing with a knee injury though, right, So another

2643
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:01,560
Speaker 3: reason why you'd.

2644
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 2: Prefer to see the step Think about this. You would

2645
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:07,680
Speaker 2: have Buffalo at Miami two straight weeks. Buffalo at Miami

2646
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 2: two straight wait what? Oh yeah, yeah in Miami Winnsday night.

2647
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:13,520
Speaker 3: They're the two seed and Buffalo would be the Seventh's

2648
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 3: exactly correct, So we're just we're just going to do

2649
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 3: it again. You gotta be careful when you have games

2650
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 3: like that. Well, yeah, because you don't want to show

2651
02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 3: too much exactly. Maybe have the backups playing this one

2652
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 3: protect the game straight.

2653
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,680
Speaker 2: We have a much clear pixure of the playoffs. Even

2654
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 2: if our explanation is not clarifying anything for you, we'll

2655
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:36,600
Speaker 2: figure it out. This is Fox Sports, Red Zone Radio

2656
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 2: and Tony.

2657
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:39,880
Speaker 9: The disappointment of it is you're a team that was

2658
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:43,640
Speaker 9: sitting at eight and three and then firm control of everything,

2659
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,920
Speaker 9: and then then and then it changed significantly. It's a

2660
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:48,720
Speaker 9: team that's going to wind up losing five of its

2661
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 9: final six six games after having so much promise early

2662
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 9: in the year. It's a long season, Frankyo, And you

2663
02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:57,959
Speaker 9: know it's we talk about it all the time.

2664
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:01,440
Speaker 2: In this league. Really, what eth in December is what

2665
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,200
Speaker 2: matters most. And this team was not good in December.

2666
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:09,800
Speaker 2: That's WJXLAM ten ten and FM ninety two to five,

2667
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 2: the Jaguars radio network. So they told the story right there,

2668
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 2: sitting at eight and three, running away with the AFC

2669
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 2: South and then all of a sudden things went south,

2670
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 2: and from December on they go one and five the

2671
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 2: rest of the way. Jaguars lose today on the road

2672
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 2: against the Titans, and they have been eliminated from the

2673
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 2: postseason once again. This Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We're

2674
02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 2: live from the Tyraq dot Com studios. All right, so

2675
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 2: we had six games this morning, We're about to kick

2676
02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:43,560
Speaker 2: off seven games. They never had an afternoon schedule like this.

2677
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:47,520
Speaker 2: So the big games are the Bears at the Packers.

2678
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:54,120
Speaker 2: Packers win, they're in now. If the Packers lose to

2679
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:57,760
Speaker 2: the Bears, next up would be the Seahawks. The Seahawks

2680
02:13:57,800 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 2: are on the road against the Cardinals. So a Packers

2681
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:05,880
Speaker 2: loss and a Seahawks win and they're in. If both

2682
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:10,839
Speaker 2: the Packers and Seahawks lose, then the New Orleans Saints

2683
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. So those are the scenarios right now.

2684
02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:17,920
Speaker 3: As far as the playoffs and the NFC side, as

2685
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:20,000
Speaker 3: we mentioned the AFC side, the only thing to be

2686
02:14:20,080 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 3: determined right now is who's going to win the AFC East.

2687
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:27,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna find out later tonight as the Miami Dolphins

2688
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 3: host the Buffalo Bills. Now, if the Dolphins beat the Bills,

2689
02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 3: guess who will play in the next round of the playoffs.

2690
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 3: First round, they will host the Buffalo Bills because the

2691
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:39,280
Speaker 3: Bills will drop to a seven seed and Miami would

2692
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:40,200
Speaker 3: be the two seed.

2693
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:41,640
Speaker 2: I love this so much.

2694
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is what's beautiful about the end

2695
02:14:45,080 --> 02:14:48,120
Speaker 3: of the regular season. For all the conversation about who's

2696
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:51,640
Speaker 3: benching all their starters, Baltimore is not playing anyone. The

2697
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 3: Rams are starting a backup Carson Wentz taking on whoever

2698
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 3: it is out there in San Francisco. I mean, there

2699
02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:01,240
Speaker 3: are some dog games on this schedule, but there are

2700
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:04,920
Speaker 3: so many games of consequence and there are outcomes where truly,

2701
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:09,360
Speaker 3: for example, Chicago playing for nothing, I mean they've already

2702
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 3: shored up the main goal this season at this point

2703
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:16,840
Speaker 3: with a lost season from a playoff standpoint, which is

2704
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 3: to have the first overall pick, and they had nothing

2705
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:21,480
Speaker 3: to do with it. The Carolina Panthers did all the

2706
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:24,400
Speaker 3: work for them. So I mean, all they're playing for

2707
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:28,360
Speaker 3: is just keeping the Packers out of the wild card.

2708
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:30,800
Speaker 2: And the Packers last year, last game of the year

2709
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:33,840
Speaker 2: against the Lions win put him into the playoffs, and

2710
02:15:33,880 --> 02:15:35,960
Speaker 2: they lost at home to the Lions.

2711
02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:39,320
Speaker 3: And you look at the Justin Fields and what his

2712
02:15:39,480 --> 02:15:42,560
Speaker 3: season has looked like after coming back from the thumb injury,

2713
02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:45,160
Speaker 3: the heater that the Bears have gone on. I mean,

2714
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:48,240
Speaker 3: he could finish the season with a little momentum heading

2715
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 3: into offseason whatever that means. There's no such thing as

2716
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 3: momentum into an offseason. But you catch my drift when

2717
02:15:53,160 --> 02:15:56,520
Speaker 3: it comes down to an organization making a decision on

2718
02:15:56,560 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 3: your future potentially, whether you get traded yet extended potentially.

2719
02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean, could you see that Justin Fields with a

2720
02:16:05,480 --> 02:16:09,040
Speaker 3: big win over a divisional rival, if the Bears find

2721
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:12,120
Speaker 3: a way to embarrass the Packers and he has a

2722
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:15,840
Speaker 3: dynamite game, maybe you get to the negotiation table and

2723
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:18,160
Speaker 3: you say, hey, Fields, we're gonna sign you long term.

2724
02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:20,280
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be for a song. It's gonna be

2725
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 3: for something something comparable to the Daniel Jones contract, and

2726
02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:28,800
Speaker 3: if it works out, the Bears look like geniuses.

2727
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:34,400
Speaker 2: Well again, the Bears future is hinging on Justin Fields.

2728
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:38,080
Speaker 2: Because they have the number one pick in the draft.

2729
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:41,519
Speaker 2: They have control of their own destiny in the draft.

2730
02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:46,080
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is there if you want him. He's right there.

2731
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:46,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

2732
02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:50,560
Speaker 2: No one can take him away from you. Caleb Williams

2733
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:53,640
Speaker 2: is yours if you want him.

2734
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:54,760
Speaker 1: So let me know.

2735
02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 2: You say, all right, hey have Justin Fields, who goes

2736
02:16:57,560 --> 02:17:00,400
Speaker 2: into today with a career record of ten and twenty

2737
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:05,440
Speaker 2: seven as a starting quarterback or Caleb Williams is right there,

2738
02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you. It's you got to pick one

2739
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:09,800
Speaker 2: of these two options.

2740
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:14,720
Speaker 3: Right You Either you either use that draft capital however

2741
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:17,040
Speaker 3: else you want to use it, not on a quarterback.

2742
02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:17,840
Speaker 2: Right. You want to.

2743
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:20,320
Speaker 3: Trade down, you want to rebuild the offensive line, get

2744
02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:25,040
Speaker 3: offensive weapons like Harrison Junior out out of Ohiose State, whoever, whatever,

2745
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:28,920
Speaker 3: But you're not allowed to get a quarterback because you've

2746
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:33,480
Speaker 3: signed Justin Fields to a four year extension and it's

2747
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 3: something shy of what Daniel Jones got in New York, Right,

2748
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know, thirty five a year, right, because

2749
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:42,240
Speaker 3: he hasn't had as much success even as Daniel Jones

2750
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:44,880
Speaker 3: in his time as a starting quarterback. So you get

2751
02:17:44,920 --> 02:17:48,000
Speaker 3: him for a song, you build a team around him. Also,

2752
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 3: he's more of a tradable asset than Daniel Jones, even

2753
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:53,959
Speaker 3: with his injury history, because he's such an explosive athlete.

2754
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 2: All right, I think, let me stop you. Okay, so wait,

2755
02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:59,000
Speaker 2: but that's a trade value of Justin Field.

2756
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:03,959
Speaker 3: But hang on, that's option B. Is you draft Caleb Williams,

2757
02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 3: which one would you rather do? I know I am steadfast.

2758
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:12,200
Speaker 3: If you're giving me those two options, I'm trying to

2759
02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:15,760
Speaker 3: extend him for a low amount so that if he

2760
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:20,039
Speaker 3: is awesome, then we look like geniuses. If he's you

2761
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 3: know what he's been, which is kind of average at times,

2762
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:26,360
Speaker 3: really explosive at times. At least he's tradable with a

2763
02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:29,320
Speaker 3: low ceiling salary or lower ceiling salary.

2764
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:31,800
Speaker 2: All right. I do not want to take anything away

2765
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:36,280
Speaker 2: from Patrick Mahomes because his record speaks for itself. He's

2766
02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:39,879
Speaker 2: been unbelievable. He's been unbelievable. But you talk about a

2767
02:18:39,879 --> 02:18:43,120
Speaker 2: perfect scenario. He walks onto a team that was already

2768
02:18:43,160 --> 02:18:46,160
Speaker 2: a playoff team with an established coach and Andy Reid,

2769
02:18:46,480 --> 02:18:49,720
Speaker 2: and he had a guy Alex Smith there, who's not

2770
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:53,000
Speaker 2: only an outstanding quarterback, but also someone that he could

2771
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 2: watch to play the game right and learn entire and

2772
02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:59,320
Speaker 2: learn fromhim for an entire year. He has Tyreek Hill,

2773
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:03,160
Speaker 2: the single most dangerous receiver in the National Football League,

2774
02:19:03,160 --> 02:19:05,320
Speaker 2: and Travis Kelcey, the best tight end in the league.

2775
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:09,560
Speaker 2: So he has weapons which help him early on in

2776
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:13,160
Speaker 2: developing a lot of confidence. So you're working with a

2777
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:15,520
Speaker 2: lot of people around you that are really good players,

2778
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:19,920
Speaker 2: it's elevating your game quickly, and it builds your confidence. Right,

2779
02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:22,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you feel like, all right, I belong,

2780
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 2: I can do this, and you're the man. What we

2781
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:29,400
Speaker 2: found out this year with Patrick Mahomes still a great quarterback,

2782
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 2: but they come down the wide receiver position has been

2783
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:35,480
Speaker 2: a mess more drop passes than any other wide receiver

2784
02:19:35,560 --> 02:19:38,560
Speaker 2: corps around the National Football League. And Travis Kelcey at

2785
02:19:38,600 --> 02:19:42,040
Speaker 2: thirty four, is finally on the down side of his career.

2786
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:45,039
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, mahomes numbers look ordinary, certainly

2787
02:19:45,080 --> 02:19:47,280
Speaker 2: by his standard. Sure, And this gets back to the

2788
02:19:47,320 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams situation. You know, you look at Justin Fields

2789
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:53,440
Speaker 2: and you look at that record of ten and twenty seven.

2790
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:57,600
Speaker 2: Guy sucks. What do they have? And by the way,

2791
02:19:57,800 --> 02:20:02,960
Speaker 2: if they just stand pat, they just stan Pat and

2792
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:05,680
Speaker 2: they draft Caleb Williams, is it going to be any

2793
02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:10,119
Speaker 2: better for Caleb Williams than it was for Justin Fields? Look,

2794
02:20:10,160 --> 02:20:13,480
Speaker 2: this is kind Remember Justin Field's playoff game against Clemson

2795
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:17,400
Speaker 2: when he threw those six touchdown pass and I was like, wow.

2796
02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:21,440
Speaker 3: Look at Justin Fields college statistics. Yes, look at Caleb

2797
02:20:21,440 --> 02:20:25,600
Speaker 3: Williams college statistics by the way I'm telling you right now,

2798
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:27,720
Speaker 3: they're much more comparable than people.

2799
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:31,720
Speaker 2: Remember this is years where he went into the playoff

2800
02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 2: with forty touchdowns on one pick, exactly forty one. This

2801
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:40,600
Speaker 2: guy was sensational at Ohio. It was unreal.

2802
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:45,959
Speaker 3: Justin fields, I'm telling you, statistically, was just as incredible

2803
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:49,000
Speaker 3: as Caleb Williams on paper when you compare these two. Now,

2804
02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:53,200
Speaker 3: I understand Caleb Williams is a dynamic athlete and he

2805
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:56,000
Speaker 3: has that is justin fields. But yeah, when you look

2806
02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:59,920
Speaker 3: at justin fields at the NFL level, he can make

2807
02:21:00,560 --> 02:21:04,720
Speaker 3: NFL defenders look like they're moving in slow motion because

2808
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 3: he has rare athleticism. At the NFL level. We have

2809
02:21:08,040 --> 02:21:10,360
Speaker 3: never seen Kayleb Williams play a snap in the league.

2810
02:21:10,480 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 3: We have no idea if he can do it for

2811
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:15,760
Speaker 3: everybody out there who is trumpeting and singing the praises.

2812
02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:18,840
Speaker 3: For example, a Bryce Young coming out of Alabama, He's

2813
02:21:18,840 --> 02:21:20,560
Speaker 3: a first overall pick to Carolina.

2814
02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:21,760
Speaker 2: They missed.

2815
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're gonna talk about this year in

2816
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:26,000
Speaker 3: a vacuum, who knows what happens in year two, year three.

2817
02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 3: Maybe Bryce Young develops into a bright young superstar in

2818
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:31,160
Speaker 3: this league. We'll see, but in one year in a

2819
02:21:31,240 --> 02:21:35,000
Speaker 3: vacuum they missed. Carolina is reeling right now. They fired

2820
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:37,880
Speaker 3: their coach, They're searching for their next one. It's a

2821
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 3: disaster right now for the Panthers. That's the problem with

2822
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:47,160
Speaker 3: everybody who sits around and watches college football and is

2823
02:21:47,320 --> 02:21:50,040
Speaker 3: wowed by the amazing arm talent of a Caleb Williams.

2824
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:52,920
Speaker 3: Because guess what. As much as I like Caleb Williams

2825
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:56,440
Speaker 3: and I do, I don't trust him as an NFL

2826
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:59,360
Speaker 3: quarterback as much as I trust Justin Fields because I've

2827
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:00,640
Speaker 3: watched him do it.

2828
02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:03,440
Speaker 2: I've watched him win close games, in hard games.

2829
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 3: I've watched him battle at the NFL level, and he's

2830
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:09,640
Speaker 3: had success. It hasn't been a lot of success. He's

2831
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:12,840
Speaker 3: still developing, there's no question about it. But if you're

2832
02:22:12,879 --> 02:22:16,360
Speaker 3: asking me today who I would throw in, who I

2833
02:22:16,360 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 3: would throw in with if my job was on the line,

2834
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:21,160
Speaker 3: if I was Matt Epperflus, if I was Ryan Pols,

2835
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 3: it's Justin Fields.

2836
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, which was Field's first year as the Ohio

2837
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:28,800
Speaker 2: State quarterback after transferring from Georgia. They went into the

2838
02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:31,879
Speaker 2: playoff game against Clemson. They were thirteen to zero, yep,

2839
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:34,920
Speaker 2: having won the Big Ten Championship. At that point, he

2840
02:22:34,959 --> 02:22:43,520
Speaker 2: had forty touchdown passes in one interception. Forty touchdowns one interception.

2841
02:22:44,120 --> 02:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Pretty good, pretty good, not bad. The reason he didn't

2842
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 2: win the Heisman Trophy there was a guy named Joe

2843
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:51,640
Speaker 2: Burrow that yeah, yeah, he was pretty good. Also, it

2844
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,200
Speaker 2: turns out he was also very good Joe Burrow that year,

2845
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:58,200
Speaker 2: including the playoffs, through sixty touchdown passes. So again, it's

2846
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:01,480
Speaker 2: hard to read. When I watched Caleb Williams play, and

2847
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of Caleb Williams, he does make

2848
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:09,040
Speaker 2: certain plays that you say, all right, that's special. He

2849
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:12,680
Speaker 2: can make certain throws, he has mobility. There's a lot there.

2850
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:15,360
Speaker 2: But it takes more than quarterback talent to win in

2851
02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:17,400
Speaker 2: the NFL. Everybody will tell you that.

2852
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:20,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what's fending right now now, Monzi,

2853
02:23:21,200 --> 02:23:22,680
Speaker 3: we just finished six games.

2854
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:23,920
Speaker 2: Are you ready for seven? Now?

2855
02:23:24,120 --> 02:23:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2856
02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 7: I can't believe they're seven.

2857
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:27,920
Speaker 8: I was like, I'm used to working or doing my

2858
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:29,360
Speaker 8: hardest work in the morning.

2859
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:31,640
Speaker 2: Correct, now this is usually where I chill.

2860
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:34,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, now I can't chill. I got seven.

2861
02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:37,800
Speaker 2: Games, seven games kicking off, which you know.

2862
02:23:38,040 --> 02:23:40,800
Speaker 8: It keeps the day going, and all seven games are

2863
02:23:40,879 --> 02:23:44,320
Speaker 8: underway still scoreless, although the San Francisco forty nine Ers

2864
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:47,119
Speaker 8: are in the red zone against the Rams. So we'll

2865
02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:49,440
Speaker 8: keep you updated on these games. But six games have

2866
02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:52,600
Speaker 8: wrapped up. The Titans. They beat the Jaguars twenty eight

2867
02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:55,640
Speaker 8: to twenty. Jacksonville has been eliminated from the playoffs. The

2868
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:59,360
Speaker 8: Texans are the AFC South champions. They will host the

2869
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 8: Browns in an AFC WALLD card playoff game next week.

2870
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:05,160
Speaker 8: The Bills and the Steelers have also clinched playoff spots

2871
02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:09,040
Speaker 8: with all of these wins and losses. Today, Dereck Henry

2872
02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:14,760
Speaker 8: he may have said goodbye today to the Tennessee Titans fans.

2873
02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:17,440
Speaker 8: He went on the big screen and he basically said,

2874
02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:19,800
Speaker 8: Titan fans, thank you for the greatest eight years of

2875
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:20,199
Speaker 8: my life.

2876
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,480
Speaker 2: He had one hundred and fifty three yards rushing today.

2877
02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:24,280
Speaker 8: Yes he did in a touchdown. But and you mentioned

2878
02:24:24,280 --> 02:24:25,560
Speaker 8: that he'll be a free agent in March, so it

2879
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:27,119
Speaker 8: seems like he said goodbye.

2880
02:24:27,160 --> 02:24:28,160
Speaker 7: That's what it seems like.

2881
02:24:28,480 --> 02:24:30,920
Speaker 8: But Gan Years have clinched their third straight NFC self

2882
02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:33,480
Speaker 8: title after beating the Panthers nine to zero. They're gonna

2883
02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:35,959
Speaker 8: host either Dallas or Philadelphia in a Wald card playoff

2884
02:24:35,959 --> 02:24:39,199
Speaker 8: game next week. With the Bucks win, the Falcons were eliminated.

2885
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:42,240
Speaker 8: Now the Falcons, they played the Saints. The Saints crushed

2886
02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 8: them forty eight to seventeen. But after the game, Arthur

2887
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:47,480
Speaker 8: Smith was pissed at Dennis Allen.

2888
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:48,640
Speaker 7: You could see a video.

2889
02:24:48,760 --> 02:24:50,920
Speaker 8: A lot of f bombs were dropped because the Saints

2890
02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:53,120
Speaker 8: faked a spike at the very end with like one

2891
02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:55,120
Speaker 8: minute to go and they scored another touchdown.

2892
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:57,720
Speaker 2: Now, is there bad blood between the two division rivals?

2893
02:24:57,800 --> 02:25:01,320
Speaker 8: Obviously obviously, but he was mad. You could tell that

2894
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:04,240
Speaker 8: he was not a fan of their decision. There's already

2895
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:08,040
Speaker 8: a report that Dennis Allen started to his postgame press

2896
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:11,640
Speaker 8: conference with I'm gonna apologize to Arthur Smith because it's like,

2897
02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 8: why did you score?

2898
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:15,240
Speaker 2: I get it, I riches of the mindset because this

2899
02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:19,360
Speaker 2: happened where Tyron Matthew had intercepted a pass for the

2900
02:25:19,400 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Saints and returned it to the one yard line. There's insight,

2901
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:23,920
Speaker 2: but gonna have to go.

2902
02:25:23,959 --> 02:25:26,560
Speaker 3: Exactly do you go for the touchdown or you take

2903
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:27,160
Speaker 3: a knee?

2904
02:25:27,560 --> 02:25:28,880
Speaker 2: And they went for the touchdown.

2905
02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:30,000
Speaker 7: They went for the touchdown.

2906
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So listen, here's here's my problem with this. Dennis

2907
02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:38,320
Speaker 3: Allen owes nobody in an apology. Arthur Smith should probably

2908
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:40,920
Speaker 3: find somebody else to complain to other than the opposing

2909
02:25:40,959 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 3: head coach. This is the NFL. These are millionaire coaches.

2910
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:47,879
Speaker 3: They're getting paid to score points. Grow the hell up,

2911
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:51,560
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith. I mean, honestly, what the hell are we

2912
02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:56,280
Speaker 3: even doing? What your feelings were hurt? Sorry already we

2913
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:59,520
Speaker 3: left our feelings in high school football?

2914
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:00,959
Speaker 1: Where was for the.

2915
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:04,400
Speaker 3: Love of the game. What a ridiculous series of events.

2916
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:07,520
Speaker 3: And Dennis Allen, shame on you for apologizing to that

2917
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:08,119
Speaker 3: mad man.

2918
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:11,080
Speaker 2: That's actually what the comments on Twitter are.

2919
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:12,640
Speaker 7: Why are you apologizing?

2920
02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:16,080
Speaker 12: I really truly am I just want to say this too, Like,

2921
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:18,959
Speaker 12: as someone who's interviewed Jamal Williams twice, that is a sweet,

2922
02:26:18,959 --> 02:26:19,680
Speaker 12: sweet man.

2923
02:26:19,760 --> 02:26:21,840
Speaker 2: He deserves to have a touchdown and his players did

2924
02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:23,800
Speaker 2: the right thing for him, because screw you.

2925
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:28,160
Speaker 11: It's kind of weird that Dennis Allen would like publicly

2926
02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:30,080
Speaker 11: admit that his players undermined.

2927
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:31,920
Speaker 8: Him and he did say that that they wanted to

2928
02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:33,240
Speaker 8: get a touchdown.

2929
02:26:33,320 --> 02:26:37,480
Speaker 2: What an embarrassment for Dennis Allen. Just everybody here looks

2930
02:26:37,480 --> 02:26:38,080
Speaker 2: to bring it back.

2931
02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:40,240
Speaker 12: But you just had a player insurrection happen in the

2932
02:26:40,280 --> 02:26:42,120
Speaker 12: final play of the cside.

2933
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:49,959
Speaker 2: So let's fire. Anybody in the NFL would really lose

2934
02:26:49,959 --> 02:26:51,800
Speaker 2: any sleep, and both of them lost their job.

2935
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:56,039
Speaker 3: What you're telling me, you guys wouldn't miss Arthur Smith

2936
02:26:56,080 --> 02:26:57,640
Speaker 3: and Dennis Allen.

2937
02:26:57,760 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 8: Okay, maybe so maybe a few we may be missing

2938
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:04,000
Speaker 8: Bill Belichick in New England. Maybe The Patriots lost to

2939
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:07,720
Speaker 8: the Jets seventeen to three. Julian Edelman did tweet if

2940
02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 8: that really is the end, it was a hell of

2941
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:11,879
Speaker 8: a run coach, hashtag Foxborough forever.

2942
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:15,320
Speaker 2: Well, they did finish last in the AFC, a solid

2943
02:27:15,400 --> 02:27:17,520
Speaker 2: sixteen out of sixteen thirteen.

2944
02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:19,440
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, and even though not even.

2945
02:27:19,320 --> 02:27:21,439
Speaker 2: The pathetic Chargers could overtake.

2946
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:23,280
Speaker 7: No, no, no, don't talk about my pathetic Chargers.

2947
02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:25,400
Speaker 8: And even though the Browns scored in the second half,

2948
02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:27,840
Speaker 8: the Bengals still defeated them. Thirty one to fourteen was

2949
02:27:27,879 --> 02:27:30,120
Speaker 8: the final score the seven games going on. The forty

2950
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:32,560
Speaker 8: nine Ers did score eight touchdown. It looks like it

2951
02:27:32,600 --> 02:27:35,680
Speaker 8: was an Elijah Mitchell rushing touchdown. So they're beating the

2952
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:38,359
Speaker 8: Rams seven zero halfway through the first and the Bears

2953
02:27:38,440 --> 02:27:40,760
Speaker 8: up on the Packers by field goal three zero early

2954
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:41,879
Speaker 8: in the first At this.

2955
02:27:41,800 --> 02:27:44,760
Speaker 3: Rate, Sam Darnold manned up starting in the San Francisco

2956
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:46,360
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers first playoff game.

2957
02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:50,000
Speaker 2: I mean he is operating right now. Look at the

2958
02:27:50,040 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 2: San Francisco offense. Unreal. Thank you, mon, You're very welcome.

2959
02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:59,880
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the Rams situation.

2960
02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:02,120
Speaker 2: Are they locked into the sixth seed? All right? I

2961
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:06,360
Speaker 2: know they they're resting. Uh it's Matthew Shawks. They beat

2962
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:10,879
Speaker 2: the Saints, They're they're locked. So that means unless somehow,

2963
02:28:11,080 --> 02:28:14,080
Speaker 2: some way both the Cowboys and the Eagles lose on

2964
02:28:14,160 --> 02:28:20,120
Speaker 2: the road, the Rams are heading to Detroit. HM, the

2965
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:22,000
Speaker 2: Rams are heading to Detroit.

2966
02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:23,720
Speaker 1: UNLAS.

2967
02:28:23,879 --> 02:28:25,720
Speaker 2: That is a fun I know.

2968
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:30,879
Speaker 3: Chris Purfett are a resident Detroit Lion fan and blogger

2969
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:35,119
Speaker 3: and podcaster. Is I mean he is. Your stomach has

2970
02:28:35,160 --> 02:28:37,400
Speaker 3: to be doing somersaults, but it has to be. This

2971
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:42,440
Speaker 3: is the the funnest matchup that the playoff presents us.

2972
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm I'm here for I'm living.

2973
02:28:44,879 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 12: For it as a NFL like yeah, as the the

2974
02:28:47,480 --> 02:28:50,680
Speaker 12: fan side of me is like, okay, you're you're fighting

2975
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 12: a team that is going to be really hot, and

2976
02:28:52,280 --> 02:28:55,320
Speaker 12: the Lions still don't have defensive backs who can stop

2977
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:57,959
Speaker 12: these like second and thirties that they're giving up to

2978
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:01,400
Speaker 12: Justin Jefferson, Now, what's Pukinakua and Cooper cup gons? But

2979
02:29:01,400 --> 02:29:04,720
Speaker 12: as an NFL fan, as a commentator, I want this,

2980
02:29:04,760 --> 02:29:06,720
Speaker 12: and I want this so much more of the alternative,

2981
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:10,000
Speaker 12: which is playing a third Division game against the Green

2982
02:29:10,040 --> 02:29:12,959
Speaker 12: Bay Packers. Yes, I want those story lines. I want

2983
02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:16,400
Speaker 12: Matt Stafford. I want this matchup of this lion, of

2984
02:29:16,400 --> 02:29:19,640
Speaker 12: this young Lions defense against the Rams and their offense. So,

2985
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:23,280
Speaker 12: Jared Goff, everything is lined up perfectly if it is

2986
02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:24,560
Speaker 12: Rams Lions.

2987
02:29:25,480 --> 02:29:27,240
Speaker 2: I have good news for you. So think about this.

2988
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:30,880
Speaker 2: The Wildcards schedule next week. You have two games on Saturday,

2989
02:29:30,959 --> 02:29:33,360
Speaker 2: three on Sunday, and then you have the Monday game.

2990
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:36,800
Speaker 2: If I got Rams at Detroit, that's my Monday game.

2991
02:29:36,879 --> 02:29:38,760
Speaker 2: That's my Monday game? Is that not? No? No?

2992
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:41,039
Speaker 3: No, that's the best. That's the best the playoffs has

2993
02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:41,440
Speaker 3: to offer.

2994
02:29:41,600 --> 02:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Which is good for Chris because we were talking about

2995
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,720
Speaker 2: if we were sitting here next Sunday while the Rams

2996
02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:50,320
Speaker 2: are playing the Lions, he's a mess. Yeah, I mean

2997
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:52,400
Speaker 2: forget it. Also quick side and be under that. I'll

2998
02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:53,720
Speaker 2: be under the desk every.

2999
02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:56,680
Speaker 3: Time somebody says pokinaku and Cooper cup, like in the

3000
02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:59,760
Speaker 3: same sentence, really quick. It sounds like like what would

3001
02:29:59,760 --> 02:30:04,120
Speaker 3: be my favorite like order at a at a Hawaiian restaurant,

3002
02:30:04,959 --> 02:30:07,000
Speaker 3: I have a pukaako with a Cooper cup, Thank you.

3003
02:30:07,520 --> 02:30:08,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

3004
02:30:08,480 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 12: Every every single time that is probably a tray of

3005
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:15,760
Speaker 12: like what he got some chicken, some fried chicken on

3006
02:30:15,879 --> 02:30:17,400
Speaker 12: there and some uh.

3007
02:30:17,400 --> 02:30:20,480
Speaker 2: Oh the white rice with the good sauce, and the.

3008
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:23,680
Speaker 3: Cooper cup is probably full with like uh just something,

3009
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:28,480
Speaker 3: just something something dropping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man, Now

3010
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 3: now I'm hungry. The breakfast Bruto has been digesting.

3011
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:33,560
Speaker 2: You already had sushi as well.

3012
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:36,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about that. It was an avocada. It

3013
02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:41,080
Speaker 3: was a part of my lighter fare. Anyways, I had

3014
02:30:41,080 --> 02:30:42,640
Speaker 3: some good fod I was in Arizona. I had some

3015
02:30:42,680 --> 02:30:43,120
Speaker 3: good food.

3016
02:30:43,240 --> 02:30:44,560
Speaker 2: Dude, Azy can do it.

3017
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3018
02:30:45,040 --> 02:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Here the question is can the Cardinals?

3019
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:51,120
Speaker 3: The Cardinals can kind of screw everything up here For

3020
02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:53,680
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles, I mean.

3021
02:30:53,800 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 2: All right, well, we already have determined the fact that

3022
02:30:56,920 --> 02:31:00,400
Speaker 2: our resident Eagle fan bo is ready to fight Knicks

3023
02:31:00,680 --> 02:31:04,480
Speaker 2: fire Nick Siri. He wants out. He wants him out,

3024
02:31:04,879 --> 02:31:10,039
Speaker 2: putting all the blame on Sirianni. Because if the Cardinal strong,

3025
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:13,720
Speaker 2: that's strong. Why are we dismissing the Eagles, a team

3026
02:31:13,760 --> 02:31:15,800
Speaker 2: that made a run to the Super Bowl. I'm sorry,

3027
02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Is Jalen Hurts still playing? He is? Yeah, Okay, I'm

3028
02:31:19,760 --> 02:31:20,199
Speaker 2: just wondering.

3029
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I love was the talk of the

3030
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:25,200
Speaker 3: NFL even after losing the Super Bowl.

3031
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Bo won't do it. I will.

3032
02:31:26,879 --> 02:31:32,040
Speaker 3: I think Jalen Hurts is probably if I'm picking an

3033
02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:35,920
Speaker 3: NFC quarterback, regardless of how the team has looked and

3034
02:31:35,959 --> 02:31:38,880
Speaker 3: played this year, I'm talking about the quarterback. I I

3035
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:41,840
Speaker 3: look at Jalen Hurts as one of, if not the

3036
02:31:41,879 --> 02:31:44,520
Speaker 3: top performer in the NFC, like a guy who I'm

3037
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna trust, like a final drive, need to have a moment.

3038
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:48,480
Speaker 2: I love Jalen Hurts.

3039
02:31:48,520 --> 02:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Also, I love the fact that you're playing with four

3040
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:53,560
Speaker 3: downs offensively, all you had to do is get it

3041
02:31:53,720 --> 02:31:56,800
Speaker 3: close to the to the line of gain and and

3042
02:31:57,000 --> 02:31:59,160
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts gets your first down every time because it's

3043
02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:02,840
Speaker 3: automatic with the bro brotherly shove. So I don't know, man,

3044
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:04,640
Speaker 3: I love the Eagles in the right.

3045
02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's say the Eagles end up as

3046
02:32:07,360 --> 02:32:11,240
Speaker 2: the five seed. They go to Tampa, they should win, Yeah,

3047
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:14,760
Speaker 2: and then you're most likely playing the forty nine ers

3048
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:18,840
Speaker 2: on the road. I don't last year, of course. I mean, look,

3049
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of forty nine or team

3050
02:32:23,360 --> 02:32:26,560
Speaker 2: we talked about this earlier. They're sitting everybody today. They're

3051
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:29,160
Speaker 2: gonna be off next week. They're gonna be three weeks

3052
02:32:29,200 --> 02:32:31,720
Speaker 2: removed from actually playing, and the Os will have a

3053
02:32:31,720 --> 02:32:33,840
Speaker 2: little moment of going after a playoff win.

3054
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:36,080
Speaker 3: And the last time we saw them, if the Eagles

3055
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:39,240
Speaker 3: do show up at their doorstep, they got their their

3056
02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean their gears ground down to pulp by the

3057
02:32:42,200 --> 02:32:45,199
Speaker 3: Ravens the last time all their starters were on the field.

3058
02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:49,359
Speaker 3: So I don't know how well that bodes for the

3059
02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:50,640
Speaker 3: forty nine ers in the posts.

3060
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:52,640
Speaker 2: Let's brock perties record as a.

3061
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:56,320
Speaker 3: However, I will remind everyone this is the Eagles team

3062
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:57,720
Speaker 3: that also got the.

3063
02:32:58,040 --> 02:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Breaks beat off them by the forty nine.

3064
02:33:00,800 --> 02:33:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did, I mean tough to beat the same

3065
02:33:03,840 --> 02:33:06,680
Speaker 3: team twice forty forty nineteen.

3066
02:33:08,120 --> 02:33:10,160
Speaker 2: I mean that was a walloping all right, coming up

3067
02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:14,160
Speaker 2: on the other side. I want your thought on this, Rich. Okay,

3068
02:33:14,320 --> 02:33:17,199
Speaker 2: we're gonna take the Ravens and the forty nine Ers

3069
02:33:17,240 --> 02:33:21,520
Speaker 2: out of the equation. Okay, give me two different teams

3070
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:24,760
Speaker 2: other than the forty nine Ers and Ravens that we'll

3071
02:33:24,760 --> 02:33:28,119
Speaker 2: meet up in the Super Bowl. We'll have that answer.

3072
02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:31,480
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin and

3073
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:34,440
Speaker 2: Rich Armberger, Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live

3074
02:33:34,480 --> 02:33:38,080
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. Well the Gang

3075
02:33:38,120 --> 02:33:43,400
Speaker 2: today doing a tremendous job as always, Monse, you really

3076
02:33:43,440 --> 02:33:46,600
Speaker 2: did it, guys starting the day off. We're really happy.

3077
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:50,560
Speaker 2: She's nursing hangovers Sunday mornings, so she brings on those. Yeah,

3078
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:54,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what non fine, I don't know what

3079
02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:54,840
Speaker 2: it is.

3080
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:58,440
Speaker 3: If you're I mean where, I'm gonna start finding the

3081
02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:02,360
Speaker 3: places you eat on Saturday nights and ordering you Margarita's

3082
02:34:02,600 --> 02:34:08,000
Speaker 3: no polomas or or dak or whatever it is Cosmopolitans.

3083
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:09,920
Speaker 7: I legit, don't.

3084
02:34:09,560 --> 02:34:11,640
Speaker 8: Do that because it's always the sugar that makes me

3085
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:13,600
Speaker 8: feel kind of a little gross. The next day, but

3086
02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:16,520
Speaker 8: I went to a thing called fork in Film and

3087
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:19,840
Speaker 8: they showed they showed us home alone and they fed

3088
02:34:19,879 --> 02:34:24,039
Speaker 8: you mean to the movie it was awesome.

3089
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:25,800
Speaker 2: Like they did one with Harry Potter and they like

3090
02:34:25,879 --> 02:34:26,440
Speaker 2: they said.

3091
02:34:26,320 --> 02:34:28,199
Speaker 7: Oh I heard of this really awesome.

3092
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:30,000
Speaker 11: I have a problem with that. Why are they showing

3093
02:34:30,040 --> 02:34:30,520
Speaker 11: Home Alone?

3094
02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:33,240
Speaker 7: It was it was it was last day. It was

3095
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:34,360
Speaker 7: like their holiday movie.

3096
02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:36,400
Speaker 11: They've that's way past the market.

3097
02:34:36,480 --> 02:34:37,120
Speaker 7: No it's not.

3098
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 3: No, it's actually and on Christmas Day, Bow has been moping.

3099
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Around your life. Not just a Christmas movie? The hell

3100
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:48,480
Speaker 2: is the matter with Bow? Today? There was always a

3101
02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:52,120
Speaker 2: good time, and I say, like Diehard is not just

3102
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:54,440
Speaker 2: a Christmas movie. There is always a good time to

3103
02:34:54,440 --> 02:34:57,280
Speaker 2: watch Home Alone and be transported to the fictional city

3104
02:34:57,280 --> 02:34:57,879
Speaker 2: of Chicago.

3105
02:34:57,879 --> 02:35:00,680
Speaker 8: Thank you, exactly, exactly beautiful there.

3106
02:35:01,160 --> 02:35:04,360
Speaker 2: Well you heard was real? Chris is riady. By the way,

3107
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:08,920
Speaker 2: Giants are dominating the Eagles already three to nothing. Uh

3108
02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:11,320
Speaker 2: so you're feeling good about that. And meanwhile the Cowboys,

3109
02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:13,240
Speaker 2: unfortunately they are up seven to nothing. And what will

3110
02:35:13,240 --> 02:35:16,760
Speaker 2: be Ron Rivera's last game is Commander's head coach. Well,

3111
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:18,000
Speaker 2: if we're up to you, hang on.

3112
02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:20,879
Speaker 3: If we're up to you, Steve, the names just in

3113
02:35:20,920 --> 02:35:24,280
Speaker 3: the NFC East Alone that you've mentioned should probably be

3114
02:35:24,400 --> 02:35:28,800
Speaker 3: on the chopping block. Ron Rivera, Mike McCarthy, Nick Sirianni.

3115
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,960
Speaker 12: I know, turning over and I'm sure after the playoffs

3116
02:35:31,959 --> 02:35:34,279
Speaker 12: we're gonna have Mike McCarthy. Ad is that when he blows,

3117
02:35:34,480 --> 02:35:35,480
Speaker 12: when his when his.

3118
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:40,080
Speaker 3: Bank dable is the only safe coach and the Brian

3119
02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:41,440
Speaker 3: Zabel is the safe coach.

3120
02:35:41,480 --> 02:35:44,040
Speaker 12: Imagine what imagine starting the year like middle of the

3121
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:45,119
Speaker 12: year saying.

3122
02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:49,760
Speaker 2: That this is no safe I know it's safe. And

3123
02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:51,800
Speaker 2: then there's boy a J.

3124
02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:52,240
Speaker 1: Brown.

3125
02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:54,160
Speaker 11: Looks like he just fumbled and he's on the ground

3126
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:54,480
Speaker 11: in pain.

3127
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:57,039
Speaker 2: Oh that is not gonna bode.

3128
02:35:56,760 --> 02:35:59,879
Speaker 11: Well, that's that's that looks like a hamstring.

3129
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:01,119
Speaker 2: It looks like.

3130
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:06,400
Speaker 3: He's holding that. He's clutching his right knee. That is miserable.

3131
02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 3: Always the worst time for these kind of things. He

3132
02:36:10,640 --> 02:36:13,320
Speaker 3: is hurt, that is it for he hurt. I mean

3133
02:36:13,360 --> 02:36:17,000
Speaker 3: he's hurt, we know that much. But hurt sobbing right now.

3134
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:20,640
Speaker 3: I mean he knows something went really Oh yeah he

3135
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:22,520
Speaker 3: got he got tangled up in a big way.

3136
02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:25,040
Speaker 11: There once again the Met Life turf.

3137
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:28,039
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it is Yeah, they're playing in New York.

3138
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:29,360
Speaker 3: This is the Met Life turf.

3139
02:36:29,480 --> 02:36:32,720
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I mean it hopefully it's not.

3140
02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:36,920
Speaker 2: I hope let's see planet that left leg and you

3141
02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:40,320
Speaker 2: could see he sort of like jammed it. It kind

3142
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:42,879
Speaker 2: of okay. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not

3143
02:36:42,879 --> 02:36:44,720
Speaker 2: gonna twist. This isn't a diagnosis.

3144
02:36:44,720 --> 02:36:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor, but I've had an m CL

3145
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:49,360
Speaker 3: tear and I'm letting you know that's how they go.

3146
02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:52,400
Speaker 3: When somebody lands on the outside of your knee and

3147
02:36:52,400 --> 02:36:54,600
Speaker 3: it puts strain on the inside ligament.

3148
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good thing. He didn't want to alarm

3149
02:36:56,720 --> 02:36:57,560
Speaker 2: any Eagles fans.

3150
02:36:57,600 --> 02:37:01,000
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying I don't want I don't want

3151
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:03,119
Speaker 3: to scare you, but his season is over.

3152
02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:07,560
Speaker 11: I exactly what happened to me when I tied the

3153
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:09,240
Speaker 11: all time the rookie.

3154
02:37:09,560 --> 02:37:12,519
Speaker 2: It's one of the most obscure records, Bill Grohman.

3155
02:37:12,160 --> 02:37:14,119
Speaker 11: The very first year, if steknew who.

3156
02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:17,240
Speaker 2: He tied, did wait Bill Groman. So in the very

3157
02:37:17,280 --> 02:37:20,640
Speaker 2: first year of the AFL AFL, the Houston Oilers had

3158
02:37:20,680 --> 02:37:24,480
Speaker 2: a rookie receiver named Bill Grohman. George Blanda was thrown

3159
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:27,640
Speaker 2: in passes and he had one four hundred and seventy

3160
02:37:27,640 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 2: three yards receiving. When the AFL and NFL merged. All

3161
02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:36,120
Speaker 2: the AFL records were absorbed into the NFL. So that

3162
02:37:36,280 --> 02:37:39,520
Speaker 2: is still the all time record was until Pukakua just

3163
02:37:39,680 --> 02:37:43,039
Speaker 2: tied the record from most receiving yards, not Randy Moss. Now,

3164
02:37:43,080 --> 02:37:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean you think of all these great rookie ride receivers.

3165
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:47,680
Speaker 2: We had Jamar Chase a couple of years had go

3166
02:37:48,480 --> 02:37:52,000
Speaker 2: This guy, Bill Grohman had held this record since nineteen

3167
02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:55,640
Speaker 2: sixty es. And by the way, he was literally like

3168
02:37:55,680 --> 02:37:58,400
Speaker 2: a one year wonder. Who was his quarterback?

3169
02:37:58,480 --> 02:38:02,119
Speaker 3: George Blanda, Oh, George bland George Blanda, who had come

3170
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:04,879
Speaker 3: out of retirement. Also, I will say this, there is

3171
02:38:04,959 --> 02:38:09,720
Speaker 3: another time with George Blanda to the modern game. George Blanda,

3172
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:13,199
Speaker 3: he was the oldest quarterback to start a game before

3173
02:38:13,240 --> 02:38:15,640
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, I believe broke his record.

3174
02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:17,279
Speaker 2: I'm almost positive.

3175
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:19,920
Speaker 3: If you look at George bland at forty years old

3176
02:38:19,959 --> 02:38:22,080
Speaker 3: and you look at Tom Brady at forty years.

3177
02:38:21,879 --> 02:38:23,680
Speaker 2: Old, here's George bland right here.

3178
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:27,480
Speaker 3: They're writing George bland tom Brady because somebody did like

3179
02:38:27,520 --> 02:38:31,320
Speaker 3: the cross compare, it is going to kill you. Yeah,

3180
02:38:31,400 --> 02:38:34,560
Speaker 3: And Tom Brady looks like he's like his kid's son

3181
02:38:35,160 --> 02:38:36,240
Speaker 3: and they're the same age.

3182
02:38:36,280 --> 02:38:37,119
Speaker 2: In the look of these.

3183
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:44,560
Speaker 3: It's amazing what modern science can do to preserve somebody

3184
02:38:44,600 --> 02:38:45,600
Speaker 3: that they didn't have back in.

3185
02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:48,040
Speaker 2: George, But I thought you were talking about Blanda. He

3186
02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:51,360
Speaker 2: had someone say this is what Tom Brady would look

3187
02:38:51,480 --> 02:38:55,640
Speaker 2: like if he had not had That's how he should

3188
02:38:55,680 --> 02:38:56,240
Speaker 2: have looked.

3189
02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:01,920
Speaker 3: Are you saying there's a dark difference between Tom Brady

3190
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:04,440
Speaker 3: and George Blanda at forty See there it is.

3191
02:39:04,520 --> 02:39:08,240
Speaker 2: That's how Tom Brady would look under normal circumstance.

3192
02:39:08,320 --> 02:39:11,520
Speaker 3: Sweet, sweet, sweet God, I don't know what we did

3193
02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:13,000
Speaker 3: for four hours there, watch a lot.

3194
02:39:13,320 --> 02:39:15,680
Speaker 2: See that right there, that's Tom Brady. He looks like

3195
02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:20,080
Speaker 2: father Tim in that pitchoo. I love it, all right,

3196
02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm asking you right now. I think he goes to

3197
02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:24,720
Speaker 2: my hairstylists. Who are the two teams other than the

3198
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:26,879
Speaker 2: Ravens and forty nine ers you could see matched up

3199
02:39:26,920 --> 02:39:27,640
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl?

3200
02:39:27,959 --> 02:39:31,480
Speaker 3: All right, I'm being perfectly honest with you here, just

3201
02:39:31,520 --> 02:39:34,160
Speaker 3: because of their experience and how far they were able

3202
02:39:34,160 --> 02:39:39,679
Speaker 3: to take their teams in consecutive years or last year, Eagles, Chiefs.

3203
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:40,879
Speaker 2: Eagle and Chiefs.

3204
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:43,520
Speaker 3: If it ain't if you can't have the Niners of

3205
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:44,680
Speaker 3: the Ravens, Eagles, Chiefs.

3206
02:39:44,760 --> 02:39:48,359
Speaker 2: What's what's your pick? It's the long away to rematch

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Speaker 2: of the nineteen fifty seven NFL Championship Game. The Lions

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Speaker 2: and the Browns a right, the Lions and the Browns.

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Speaker 2: If one makes it, both will make it. Fonza, mark

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Speaker 2: my words. Fonzarelli has a official Flacco Jump the Shark.

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Speaker 2: We back in the Super Bowl. This is Fox Boxy Radio.