1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten Touchdown Chargers. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: What's some guys Welcome into a week ten edition of 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. We are presented by Splittero as always, joined 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: by the Voice of the Chargers, Matt Money Smith, Jalielade 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: in the building today and gentlemen, Chargers Speed. The Titans 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty came at a heavy cost, though, Money. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, with the what the academically elites would call a 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: pyrhic victory, Right, you get the win, but you sustain 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: a serious loss. Look, the Chargers were four and zero 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: with Joe Alt on the field, two and three without them, 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: So I think that tells you everything. You know, you 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: can go through all the stats and pressure rates and 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: touchdowns thrown and all that, it just comes down to 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: four and zero versus two and three. That's how good 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: of a left tackle that Joe Walt. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: Happens to be. 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, Money, when you look at it, and you talked 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 5: about being four zero, but I just looked at how 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 5: it felt right and how it looked on TV and 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 5: we're watching them, how the offensive line communicated, how Herbert 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: was being protected when he came back. You've seen the 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 5: big change right in the positive way. For the offensive 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 5: line in a positive way for the offense, and Herbert 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 5: stood more more confident, right, he trusted his blind side 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 5: and he was able to go through his progressions and 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 5: to lose somebody like him obviously with Ray charn Slater. 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 6: Going out at the beginning of the year and then 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 6: you have him. 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 5: That's like a A that's a double blow, right, But 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 5: I mean it's the NFL, and it's one hundred percent 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 5: injury rate, and you got to figure out how to 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: continue to build the guys who are behind him, obviously 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 5: making that trade acquisition that the front office did this week, 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: they're they're they're searching, and they're trying to find a way. 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: You know, the difference between Week four and now is 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: week four, we knew Ault. 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: Was coming back. 39 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: He's not coming back now, and you have a whole 40 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: second half of the season to try to navigate and 41 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: figure out that right combination that offensive line. You mentioned 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: it at the Buzzer. Georgiez Gets Trevor Penning, former first 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: round pick, was actually picked a couple of picks after Zion, 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah in that twenty Yeah, after him that twenty twenty 45 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: two draft, and Maddy, I guess short term versus Pittsburgh 46 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: versus long term. 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 7: I think maybe over the next. 48 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Couple of weeks we'll kind of figure out what that 49 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: combination is gonna look like. 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be floored if you see Forever Penning 51 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: this week. It's just offensive lines. Too hard to get 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: a guy on Tuesday and expect him to go out there. Now, 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 3: maybe you know, could there be a package where he's 54 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: a sixth offensive lineman. Yeah, But then I think about 55 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: that and it's like, Okay, that's probably like a critical down. 56 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 3: You know, if you're doing that, it's a short yardage situation. 57 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: You don't want a guy that's not maybe comfortable with 58 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: cadence or what exactly his assignment is. And next thing, 59 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: you know, it's not third and one, it's third and six. 60 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: And so I think for Trevor it's probably you know, 61 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: getting him settled in, get a full week. 62 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: Of practice, ye bye week and two exactly. 63 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: So, and I think even just going into Jacksonville, I 64 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: think the good thing about Penning is, you know, he's 65 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: played all four positions. You know, you can play left tackle, 66 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: right tackle. He did not play right guard. Actually he's 67 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: played left guard. So he's played three of the five positions, 68 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: and I think when you talk about the Chargers, they've 69 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: needed it everywhere. You know, mcad Beckton's only played fifty 70 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: two percent of the snaps. We only you know, got 71 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: to four games from Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater this season. 72 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: So it's, you know, unfortunately been the position of attrition. 73 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: And I commend Joe because we talked about it last week, like, 74 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: don't get your hopes up about this team being able 75 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: to acquire a starting caliber offensive line. It just doesn't happen. 76 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: It just wrecks your team too much, pulling a guy 77 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: out that's been playing all year long and is a 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: good offensive lineman to send him somewhere else in the 79 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: middle of the season. You know, if you're whatever, you're 80 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: evaluating running backs, quarterbacks, no matter what your season's looking like, 81 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: You're always trying to figure out what the future is 82 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: for your team, and pulling offensive lineman off a team 83 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: is just it's too hard to do. 84 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the cap space also is a factor. 85 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, three million does all they had? You didn't have 86 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 4: that much. 87 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, if we dive into the game 88 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: just a little bit, guys, I mean, it was kind 89 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: of ugly I mean, if we're just being honest, you 90 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: have a pick six at the beginning of the game, 91 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: you have a punt return for a touchdown, and you 92 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: kind of left a team that had no business being 93 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: in the game kind of hanging around. 94 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I look at it like, no wins are easy, 95 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: and you're not gonna apologize for winning in this league, right. 96 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: And you know, obviously the interception the beginning of the game. 97 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: We've seen Herbert almost have that against the Vikings the 98 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: week prior. 99 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 6: To Isaiah Rodgers. 100 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 5: But it's like my son plays seven on seven and 101 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: we play Hi at quarterback at first to get his 102 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: feet going, to get him locked into the game, because 103 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: if you play manywhere else, he's looking at the butterflies, 104 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 5: he's looking at the other game. And I just feel 105 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 5: like with Herbert, when he starts to use his feet 106 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: early on, I feel like he settles into the game 107 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: a lot more, right, And then you've seen him use 108 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: his feet, and then once he uses his feet, defenses 109 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: have to respect the Russian lanes and then he can 110 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: able to sit back there a little bit more, and 111 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: then he just gets into his groove, right. So I 112 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 5: think like him being able to use his feet earlier. Often, 113 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: maybe start calling some quarterback designs just to get him 114 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 5: acclimated to the game. And I remember when I played, like, 115 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: if I don't get a hit within like the first 116 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: ten plays, I don't feel like I'm locked in. Yeah, 117 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: I want to hit something right, So for him, just 118 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 5: to get him going, because once he gets going, it's 119 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 5: it looks like nothing else that's going around the league. 120 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 6: He's a baller. 121 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean me, it just was it was just 122 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: a bad play, that's all it was, you know. And 123 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: I look at at Justin Herbert's season, and he's been sensational, 124 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: you know, especially considering the circumstances, the fact that he's 125 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: got he's been pressured, you know, thirty more times, I 126 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: think is the number then the next highest quarterback. 127 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: So which was cam Ward? I think exactly. 128 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: So like when you're dealing with that and you have 129 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: the almost pick six against the Vikings, this almost picks six. 130 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 3: But you know, like PFF does this thing which is turned. 131 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot like they take inky. They're 132 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: very polarizing when you talk about PFF grades or whatever 133 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: statistical category. But the one thing that I think they 134 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: do very well is turnover worthy plays. And so because 135 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: not all interceptions are on the quarterback, not all interceptions 136 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: are equal. And when you go through his seven, you 137 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: know four of them are tips and like one bonked 138 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: off a helmet, and you know a lot of times 139 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: that can be your pass protection that just breaks down 140 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: and in that moment, that defender gets deep enough to 141 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: get that hand on the ball. And so to me, 142 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: even with that, I just I sort of look at 143 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: it as just a I think Coach Harbaugh or might 144 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: have been Coach Roman, one of them in their roster, 145 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: I thought put it best. It's like when that happens, 146 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: Herbert gets locked in a hurry, and I think you 147 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: saw that, oh the rest of the game. I mean, look, 148 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: it was a bad one. I mean, Cody Barton is 149 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: not that kind of player that's going to be, you know, 150 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: breaking on a ball and getting that jump, you know, 151 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: to jump in front of somebody. It was just thrown 152 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: right to him. Herbert didn't see him, and you know 153 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: from there he was fine. Now you mentioned the punt return. 154 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: That's a conversation we can have, and that's that's something 155 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: that I think is a little bit more concerning because 156 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: there's more data there that tells us, Okay, this is 157 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: this is kind of an issue that's that's been lingering 158 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: now for nine games that we got to kind of 159 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: figure out. 160 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I go back to the to the 161 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: game against the Colts and just that that big kickoff 162 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 2: return that was allowed at the beginning of the second half. 163 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: After you score it get a little bit of momentum 164 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: and you know, a play like that, it just it 165 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: can't happen against a bad team. Can't happen against a 166 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: good team because a good team, well, we'll take advantage 167 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: of that. And I just I go back to what 168 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: the Steelers did last week. Six turnovers, but they only 169 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: won by a touchdown. So, like it just it shows you, 170 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: like kind of how critical those errors can be. But 171 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: also do you have the horses offensively to kind of 172 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: sustain that you do against the Titans. 173 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 7: I don't know if you do against the Steelers. 174 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. The Steelers are a different beasts. 175 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 5: You see the way they're playing ball, and it's led 176 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: by Mike Tomin who's a coach who's respected and he's 177 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: continued to put out a good product no matter what 178 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: year it is, Right, He's been doing this for so 179 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: long and when you look at them, I'm just looking 180 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 5: talking about We're talking about it before the podcast. We 181 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: were talking about that front with TJ Watt, right and 182 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: the Cam Hayward right. These are guys who are going 183 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 5: to presure the quarterback. We talked about pressure and Justin 184 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: and these guys who can get to the quarterback with 185 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: four right, they don't need to send that extra So 186 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: that's gonna be something big, especially with them knowing the 187 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: injuries that the charges are facing on the offensive side 188 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 5: and moving guys around, and there's going to be different 189 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: communication and it's like you have to know what he's 190 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: thinking in the midst of the snap, in the midst 191 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: of the crowd, right, So it's going to be very 192 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: interesting to see how the offensive line handles this front 193 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 5: that the Steelers have. 194 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just kind of going back to before 195 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: we get to the Steelers and just the special teams, 196 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: you know, and Jah gets traded, you know, and he's 197 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: your starting gun or and I don't know if that's 198 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: just because Dean Leonard's coming back or sort of what 199 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: went into that decision, but whatever it is, it's it's 200 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: a unit that has had Again, like the offensive line 201 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: just incredible turnover, you know, through injury, through departures. I 202 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: don't think there's anyone that would question the job that 203 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: Ryan Ficken and Chris Gold do. I mean, they're great 204 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: at what they do. But I think just this year, 205 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: you know the fact that Tooley's out there for ten 206 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: to fifteen snaps a game now and he's third in 207 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: the league in pressures like that sort of speaks to 208 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: how critical it is on that unit. I think, you know, 209 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: the dynamic kickoff has certainly led to a lot of 210 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: teams having issues and trying to figure this out because 211 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: you just see the different combinations. Some teams are playing 212 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: almost all defensive backs and running backs. Other teams got 213 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: multiple you know, you've see Tully and a boy beer 214 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: out there on every one of these kickoffs, and so 215 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's quite settled into a what's the 216 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: right way to play this? And now on top of that, 217 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: you've got for as great as he's been, just these 218 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: weird moments for Cam Dicker booting the ball out of bounds, 219 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: you know, late in half and given the Titans an 220 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: opportunity to get a field goal out of it. You know, 221 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: just kind of for shanking one and golf terms. You 222 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: know that bounces off the leg of a boy bee 223 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: against the bit like just weird things are happening on 224 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 3: special teams. You know, the DK return for a touchdown, 225 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: you know, look flat out, just JK booted that ball. 226 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: Man it out, He outkicked his coverage and they couldn't recover. 227 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: But that doesn't really change the fact that this is 228 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: a team that is twenty ninth I think thirty their 229 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: lasting either punt or kick, and their twenty ninth I 230 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: think in the other So that just kind of speaks 231 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: to particularly coverage units is something that and coach said it. 232 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's something that's going to get a lot 233 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: of attention, a lot of focus this week and. 234 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 6: Special teams is more of a want to. 235 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: And then when you talked about JK o't kicking his coverage, 236 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 5: a lot of times they coach harps on something called landmarks. 237 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 5: Everybody on that team, on the punt team has landmarks, right. 238 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: Is it two yards outside the numbers? Is it two 239 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 5: yards inside the hash? And then you're converging on the 240 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 5: ball once you get to the to the returner within 241 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: a certain amount of yards, right, And when you look 242 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: at that we were talking about the All twenty two 243 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 5: film that you were watching before the podcast, and when 244 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: you look at that specific play, those guys were out 245 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: of their landmark, right. So it was more so just 246 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: not being disciplined. I know Ryan Ficking from coaching with him. 247 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: You know what he's done for this organization. He's really 248 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 5: you mentioned it, he's really good at his job. But 249 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, players got to make 250 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 5: stuff come to life, right, And when you look at 251 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 5: that film, guys were out of their lanes. 252 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 6: Guys were on their landmarks. 253 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: So it's just a lot of want to I know 254 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 5: that they do, but it's about being more detailed to 255 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: your assignment and I think that will fix a lot 256 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: of things. 257 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: The thing is, guys, we're entering week ten. The personnel 258 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: is not going to change. You mentioned John Taylor get 259 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: shipped to New York. We know Ryan Ficken's a heck 260 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 2: of a coach. We've seen it the last several years. 261 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: So what can change, Like do you tinker with the 262 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: guys that you currently have, like jillil as a player, 263 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: Like how can you get better at special teams midway 264 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: through the year with no other personnel changes? 265 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: I think it starts with the coaches first and just 266 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 5: looking at like self, scout, right, what have we done 267 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: and what has hurt us? And if I was going 268 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 5: against the Chargers, how would we attack them? And then 269 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: if I can see how we would attack them, then 270 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 5: I can formulate a game plan on saying hey. 271 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 6: Let's try to fix this. 272 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 5: Let's try to fix that, because, like I said, special 273 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: teams is really just a want two coaches going to 274 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 5: design a pick. Coach is gonna tell you to get 275 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 5: your landmarks. But if it's a one on one with 276 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: you win a return, you got to make the tackle right. 277 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: If you have to stay your lane, you gotta stay 278 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: in your lane. If you got to funnel the ball, 279 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 5: you got a funnel the ball. If you're if you're 280 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 5: setting the edge on kickoff return and you're the number 281 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 5: two guy running on the field with the safety behind you, 282 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: you got to make sure you set the edge to 283 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 5: force everything back to the other ten. So I think 284 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 5: it's a collective, a collective thing that needs to be 285 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 5: done with the coaches scouting their self, players scouting theirselfs 286 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 5: and just saying, listen, guys, enough is enough, and we 287 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 5: got to get out there and change things. 288 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, look, Marlo wax Is, you know, one 289 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: of the leaders in special tams tackles in the NFL. 290 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: Right now. 291 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: I think it's much like Georgie's is done all season long. 292 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: I do think there could be personnel, you know, sort 293 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: of moves because you think about Nahim Miller Hines right 294 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: on the team, off the team, on the team, off 295 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: the team, like I'm watching Andrey Lambert Smith and nothing 296 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: against him, He's never done it before. But you know, 297 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 3: you got to know when you're a yard deep in 298 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: the end zone, you take the knee, man, that's the 299 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: thirty five, and instead you're bringing it out and you're 300 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: stopped at the twenty two. Now you got a net 301 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: loss of twelve to start that drive. I think it's 302 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: just sort of you know what, and it just doesn't 303 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm talking about the other side of it. 304 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: Now. 305 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like Darius Davis is quite back. You know, 306 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: there's something that's not quite right there. You know, we 307 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: know what Darius Davis looks like when he's right, man, 308 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: he's explosive, and that dude looks like he gets fired 309 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: out of a cannon. It just has not quite looked 310 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: like that since he's returned, So I think it's probably 311 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: still some personnel situations, like do we have the right 312 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: two guys back there, because I got to talk about 313 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: Miller Hines and it's like, man, you remember what it 314 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: looked like against Miami, and guy helped him win the 315 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: game with that forty yard returning. 316 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: He's a professional, it helped. 317 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about a guy with two one 318 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: hundred plus yard kickoff returns for touchdowns. So I do 319 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: think there could be just because of how Joe operates, 320 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: you know, how he's always churning that back end and 321 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: we've seen almost every single week, Hey, this person's off 322 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: the practice squad, this person's on, this person's elevated, this 323 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: person's drop like, there's a lot of that. So I 324 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 3: do think that there could still be some movement there. 325 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: And look, in the case of Jaw moving, maybe it's 326 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: they just really liked what they saw from Nico Reid 327 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 3: out there for those you know, fifteen or so snaps 328 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: that he had, and it's like, well, it's hard for 329 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: us to keep this guy up because of where our 330 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: depth is needed. If we get you know, however, we 331 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: put this fifty three with your five inactives together, is 332 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: this a better combination? I don't know what the idea was, 333 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 3: but I do think Jaw's one of the better gunners 334 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: in the league, so I'm guessing that there's some of 335 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: that in there. 336 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like maybe a numbers game from a 337 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: dB perspective, with Dean Leonard coming back too, and you 338 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: know we should mention Hassan Haskins is he's on IR Yeah. Well, 339 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: and that's another four core guy, right, Yeah. 340 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: I mean you got I would I think you would 341 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: say like Jaw, Hassan, Marlo Wax, Caleb Murphy, like those 342 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: were kind of your special team standouts this year, and 343 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: that's a turnover from Simmy and Nick Neeman and like 344 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: a lot of guys, you know, and then Delshaun Phillips 345 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: was injured all of training camp, you know, so like 346 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: there's just so much that goes into it. And I think, 347 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: like offensive line, you talked about it like you've got assignments, man, 348 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: you got to keep those assignments right, and it's not easy, 349 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, when you don't have enough time on task 350 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: because there's constant churn with those units. 351 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 352 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly is presented by Splittero helping homeowners access their 353 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: home equity with no monthly payments. 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So if we shift to defense, 360 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: listen the response from Indianapolis to Minnesota. 361 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 6: We saw it. 362 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: It was a four day period. 363 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: Those guys were not happy with how the Colts game 364 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: shook out. You have a mini buy and then you 365 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: play the Tennessee. 366 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 7: Titans, and those guys took care of business. 367 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: They all had six points and if it wasn't for 368 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: that pick six in the uh in the punter turn 369 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: for a touchdown made have been a blowout. 370 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 371 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: I think they were just fed up. And there's two 372 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: plays that I want to point out. It was block 373 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: it was blocked destruction. They called it right, and it 374 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: was Durren James on the perimeter on the screen, lifted 375 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: them up, dumped them, made the tackle and then there 376 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: was DP in the A in the A gap right 377 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: on the lead block destructs, the fullback makes a play, 378 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: and that's just was the identity of the defense that game, 379 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: just playing physical all eleven to the ball, and it 380 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 5: was more so like, hey, listen, we kept talking about it, 381 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 5: We've we've had to chew on it for ten days, 382 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 5: and now we're gonna go out there and do it. 383 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: Those two plays basically embodied what the defensive mindset and 384 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 5: the way they played that game. The whole the whole 385 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: four quarters looked. 386 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, I think it was an extension of what 387 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: we saw against Minnesota. I think there were still some 388 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: runs out there that you were a little worried about. 389 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: The edges kind of got a little little weak. But 390 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: I think in terms of pass rush, my goodness, you 391 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: know that always really come on. You know, what a 392 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: great exchange by by Joe Ortiz to get a Dafe 393 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: in here. Because when you see if you can get 394 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: that team off schedule and you get some third and 395 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: longs and they roll out there with Tart, I mean, 396 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: it's kind of a pick your tackle. 397 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: It's either Tart or cold. Well. 398 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: I think with DeShawn Han's window being open, it could 399 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: end up being him. But it's Twu Lee at the 400 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: tackle and then Khalil and Oway at the edges. 401 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: Man. 402 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: That's as we used to call it, you know, when 403 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: it was Morgan, Fox, two Lee, Bosen, Khalil, mact and 404 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: NASCAR package, you know, And that's kind of that was 405 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: really effective in this game, and I think that's just 406 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: going to continue to build is Khalil gets closer and 407 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: closer back to one hundred percent, as Alway gets more 408 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: comfortable with the guys he's playing with. We know, Tuley 409 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: is just you know, the greatest hockey assist defensive lineman 410 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: out there. Man, He's going to either occupy two guys 411 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: or he's going to get pick up your guy and 412 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: somehow someone else is going to get a sack. But 413 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: that's kind of where it all starts, I think, right 414 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: with how how Jesse Minner likes to play where he does. 415 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: He doesn't blitz a. 416 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: Lot, you know, and so it's going to be four 417 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: guys and if you're getting that kind of pressure with 418 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: the amount of players you have back covering and trying 419 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: to create a foggy picture, that's how you create turnovers. 420 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: I do think there were some big plays that they 421 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: could have allowed that that cam Ward missed. You know, 422 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: you think about that long third and whatever it was 423 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: right through the ball in the dirt because he just 424 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: couldn't reset his feet. It was an awkward looking through. 425 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: I think there's still some of that out there, and 426 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers and that Steelers 427 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: offensive line is really humming right now. Fatanu is what 428 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: we thought he was coming out of Washington. You know, 429 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: when the Chargers took Alton, he was in the conversation 430 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: as a top ten pick and ended up sliding a 431 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: little bit because of the injury. But Robert Jones was 432 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: playing okay. I mean Fraser, we knew he was going 433 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: to be a great center from jump and man in 434 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: his second years, he's exceptional. So it's gonna be a 435 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: lot harder to get home. I think Rogers only taking 436 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: fifteen sacks this year, so it's gonna be a lot 437 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: harder to get home with four, which means a little 438 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: bit more pressure on that secondary and that back end. 439 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: You know, kudos to Joe for making that trade. We 440 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: love the Lowhie here and you know, I low He 441 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: had a nice game Thursday night against the Dolphins. But 442 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: I think it was a win win when you when 443 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: you bring in a guy like a Dafe and he's 444 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: motivated four sacks in four weeks from a safety perspective 445 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: with a low he out, and we know Tony was 446 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: down last Sunday seeing r J Mickens. 447 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 7: What did you see from the safety position this past Sunday? 448 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 5: I talked about it, talked about Durwin, Obviously he's playing 449 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: closer to the line, but you talk about ARJ Mickens, 450 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 5: and then you talk about Molden. You've seen that play 451 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 5: that Molden made on that goal line stand right, almost 452 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 5: like Troy Pola molowis jump, yeah, selling, selling out, don't 453 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: putting his body on the line. You love to see 454 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 5: that from him during him and Duran played exceptionally well 455 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 5: physical and then r J is just a young guy 456 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 5: out there. You've seen him communicating well, he was in position, 457 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 5: didn't have too many splashes, but he didn't give up 458 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 5: anything really big, right, And you'd like to see that 459 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 5: from a young guy as a coach because a lot 460 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 5: of times when you get a young guy out there 461 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 5: and when those bullets are flying, you really don't know 462 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 5: what you're gonna get right, and that was essentially his 463 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 5: first start, right. Obviously he filled in, but I was 464 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 5: essentially his first start. I think he played really well. 465 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: I think he communicated with the other two guys well. 466 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 5: Obviously DJ did what DJ does, and Molden came up 467 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 5: and he played big as well. 468 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think especially against a veteran quarterback like 469 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, you know, getting Tony back out there would 470 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: be a big boost. You know, we're recording this, we 471 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: don't know what the status was Thursday morning, but you know, 472 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 3: for him being back limited on Wednesday, you hope that, 473 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: you know, maybe we get to full by Friday and 474 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 3: he's back out there. I think Tony's just such a 475 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: savvy you know, always makes a play and it's just 476 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: kind of one of those things like you said, you 477 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: know RJ mackons a young guy, but and I think 478 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: you hit it on the hedge. You'liel like there were 479 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: no no issues you know where you're like ooh, you know, 480 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: out of position here and it led to a big 481 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: play and that's a key. So in terms of safeties 482 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: and secondary I thought again, same thing with Nico Reid. 483 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: You know, there's he's made one tackle and it was 484 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: just kind of like was sort of back, you know, 485 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: backed into that one to get into the box score. 486 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: But again you saw him have to play a little 487 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 3: bit of press in the slot and I thought he 488 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: played well. And so it's kind of what you're looking for, 489 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: right just just kind of keep it right in the 490 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: middle there. You know, we don't need it to be 491 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: up here, but we just can't have it down here, 492 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: can you? Can you keep it right here? And I 493 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 3: think both players, mickens and and Nico did a pretty 494 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: good job of that against the Titans. 495 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: Certainly we'll be tested Sunday with Metcalf and just all 496 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: the webs that have the tight ends that they have. 497 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't really you know, they still don't have 498 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: that second receiver. They're trying to figure out, you know, 499 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 3: who it is. And and obviously, look, I think it's 500 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: gonna be fun watching cam harten DK. You know, two 501 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: very physical players that play with a chip, that like 502 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: to get like, like to get after it. It's gonna 503 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: be fun to watch. At the same time, I'm anxious 504 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: to see if you know, they move DK iron, if 505 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: we get any derwin versus DK reps, that'd be a 506 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: lot of fun. So to me, like there's an opportunity 507 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: where Jesse can just commit two resources to DK and 508 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: I think you're totally comfortable, you know with making you know, 509 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: we're just having one on ones the rest of the 510 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: way out there, especially if Durwin's going to be, you know, 511 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 3: kind of dealing with Pat Fryermouth or something. And they 512 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: have not been able to run the ball very well. 513 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: You know, Caleb Johnson, a lot of people thought, wow, 514 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 3: perfect fit, you know Caleb on the Steelers, and he's 515 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: not really doing a whole lot. So I do think 516 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: there's some opportunities for Jesse Miner and for this defense 517 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: to you know, to find a ball, to find a 518 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: ball or two, you know, or to make life really 519 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: hard for for Aaron Rodgers. Like I said, the one 520 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: kind of the big bright spot of this offense has 521 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: been that offensive line and how well they've been playing 522 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: and just kind of keeping Aaron Rodgers upright, But it 523 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: feels like Aaron's you know, I mean, look, they just 524 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: signed Marcus Velt does Stan Scandon, right, So, like I 525 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: think that kind of tells you they're they're looking. 526 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, before we really dive into this, this Pittsburgh game Sunday, 527 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: and I just one last thing I would ask you, guys, 528 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: just from from a running game perspective, for the Chargers 529 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: octually waiting for Mariin Hampton to hopefully get back maybe 530 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: after the bye. Jared Patterson was the one who had 531 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: subduced nine for forty four KENINEI twelve for thirty. I 532 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: guess your thoughts on the running game these next couple 533 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: of weeks against two pretty good defenses before we get 534 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: to the buy. 535 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: I think it's similar to what we talked about with 536 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 5: the young guys on the defensive side, with RJ and 537 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: Nico Reid and those guys just coming in and fill in, 538 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 5: and obviously we're not expecting them to carry the load, right, 539 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 5: but you got to give them something. You got to 540 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: give the offense a balanced attack, right so that they 541 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: don't just stay back, You make them, force force them 542 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 5: to stack the boxer that Herbert can air it out. 543 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 5: They're not going to save the day, right, but they've 544 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: been playing really, really valuable football with the Mario and 545 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: Hampton out and Nause out and from outside looking in, 546 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 5: I've been very impressed with the two young guys and 547 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: what they brought to the table, and I think they 548 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 5: can need to continue to do that because it's so 549 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 5: vital that they have a balance attack going into this 550 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh game, because, like you said, that defense, that defense 551 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 5: is humming right now. 552 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 553 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: To me, I think it's a lot of it is 554 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: on Greg Roman, you know, and I think we've seen 555 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: some really good things with the way he's trying to 556 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: scheme it up. But I do think it's trying to 557 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: figure out, you know, where where are we most effective, 558 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: especially when you're playing against edges that you know, they 559 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: have the reputation of high Smith and t. J. 560 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: Watt. They're known as pass rushers. They sacked the heck 561 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: out of the quarterback. 562 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 3: They're it was pretty good against the run, and so 563 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: I think what we saw against Miami, against Minnesota, a 564 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: little bit against Tennessee is you know, I think attacking 565 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: the has kind of been where this this team has 566 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: been able to make a little bit of hay. But 567 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: when you mentioned Patterson, yeah, he ended up doing a 568 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: lot of damage between the tackles. Not Jeffrey Simmons isn't 569 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: out there and that makes a big difference. But to me, 570 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: that's sort of where I think coach Roman, especially with 571 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: the injury to Alt, with everything that they're dealing with. 572 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: You know, I hate to say it, but just pressure's 573 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: on him. Man, you've got to scheme this up. And look, 574 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: I never thought i'd say it, but Justin Herbert leads 575 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in rushing yards. It's crazy to the end. Now, Look, 576 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: Lamar has been hurt, and I'm sure it'd be him 577 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: if he were healthy, but the fact that Justin Fields 578 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: runs the heck out. Justin Herbert leads the league in 579 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: rushing for quarterbacks with over three hundred yards on the ground. 580 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: And I do think that that. 581 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: Look, that's part of the rushing attack, that's part of 582 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: the run of being and I think we're just going 583 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: to see a lot more of that, especially against these 584 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: edge you know, these edges that want to pin their 585 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: ears back and come get you, and you've just got 586 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: to get them to have that moment of pause. 587 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 6: And I say this too. 588 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: I always think it's another way to protect Justine's running 589 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: like instead instead of just sitting back there, I mean 590 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: his ability to run the football. 591 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 7: We saw it. 592 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: I remember a couple of Sunday night footballs ago. That 593 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: was one of the reasons they won that game against 594 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, was he has some huge runs in 595 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: that game, and I just I feel like that needs 596 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: to be part of the game plan moving forward. And 597 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: I think it's also a reminder that last year with 598 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: that ankle, he couldn't do any of this stuff that 599 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: he's able to do now. 600 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 601 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 5: I talked about it early in the pod, and people 602 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 5: might think I'm crazy when I say, well, they need 603 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: to start maybe start the game up with some design 604 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 5: runs to get him in his flow. 605 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 6: And we talked about it. 606 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 5: He's very good at running the ball and when things 607 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: break down, when receivers can't separate, and you see him 608 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 5: take off for that first down and teams are in 609 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 5: max zone and then he's scrambling or they're in man 610 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: and their backs are turned to him and he scrambling 611 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: for twenty twenty five yards. That gives an offense life, right, 612 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 5: That gives an offense momentum. And I think just a 613 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: test and to your point of him being the leading 614 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: rusher at the quarterback position, and these are not really 615 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 5: design runs. It's not like Baltimore has design runs for 616 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: Lamar right, justin Fields has design runs like they're doing RPOs. 617 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 5: They're pulling the ball, they're reading the tackle, and they're 618 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: not doing that with Justin. Justin's like, hey, the play's 619 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 5: broken down, let me make a play with my feet. 620 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 5: And that is just bringing life to the team as 621 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 5: a whole. And I think, listen, if he continues to 622 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: do that, they're gonna always have a shot. 623 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 7: It is a wild stat though. 624 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: Man. 625 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: I think he's rushing and he's dropping his shoulder on 626 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: people for the first down, like, yeah, the sideline, he's 627 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 5: on the ground given the first down point like everyone's flexing, 628 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: and he's not a small cat like DB's. Are not 629 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: just willing to just come up and hit Justin Herbert like, oh, 630 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: it's a quarterback running. Yeah, I get a t off. 631 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: He's six' six to something like he's dropping the shoulder 632 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 5: AND i mean obviously charging. NATION i know you don't 633 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: like to see, that but his body can endure. That 634 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 5: he's built like that and you don't want to see 635 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 5: him do that fifteen times a, game but sprinkling it 636 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: in there like five to seven times a, game it 637 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: keeps the defense hoes AND i think it's a, really 638 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 5: really good formula for the success of the. 639 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 6: Offense no. 640 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: Doubt AND i also wanted to just shout that the 641 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: balanced attack, OFFENSIVELY A rendez led led the team five 642 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: for sixty. Eight then he had lad four for fifty, 643 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: six quitting four for fifty, three gets in the end. 644 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 6: Zone to j it's on the. 645 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: Scoreboard and then and then keenan two for forty. One 646 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: And keen is going to break That Antonio gates record On, 647 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: sunday no. 648 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 4: Doubt, yeah most. 649 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: RECEPTIONS i, think just going back To, herbert the one 650 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 3: thing THAT i would kind of acknowledge, is you, KNOW 651 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: i think it's it's a reminder for those that, are, 652 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: oh playoff, wins this dude wants to. Win he's just 653 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: gonna he is willing to do whatever it takes to 654 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: win football, games, because like you, Said, julio they're not designed. 655 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: Runs it's just a guy who's like there's the. Grass 656 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: i'm probably gonna take a. Shot BUT i can go 657 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: get eight, YARDS i can go get twelve. Yards i'm 658 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: about to rip this thing off AND i could step 659 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: out of bounds and it will be a fifteen yard. 660 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: Game but, No i'm must stay in bounds for an 661 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: extra fifteen and it's going to be a thirty yard 662 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: run And i'm going to take a. Shot AND i 663 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: think that's where for people and just talking with folks 664 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: and fans this week and how down they are about 665 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: all being. Out it's, like you, know the one thing 666 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: to remember is there's one player that can't be. Gone 667 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: as long as that one player is out, there you've 668 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: got a chance to win every single one of these. 669 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: Games he's just that. SPECIAL i, mean think about the offensive, 670 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: line and this guy is second in the league in, 671 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: passing he's third in, touchdowns he's first in, rushing like 672 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: and you haven't Had Rashaun slater all, year and you've 673 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: Had Joe alt for four Games like, That that's what 674 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: we're talking. About and let, alone The chargers are six and, 675 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: three And, herbert's you, know in the, conversation is the 676 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: best quarterback in football in twenty twenty. 677 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Five, yeah all, right let's take a quick break and 678 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: then get our final thoughts on These Pittsburgh steelers head 679 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: To San francisco and experience The Super bowl with On, 680 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: location the official hospitality provider of THE nfl and proud 681 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: partner of The Los Angeles, chargers secure packages that bundle 682 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: verified tickets with exclusive access to pregame parties featuring renowned 683 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: entertainment and top of the line food and, drinks plus 684 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: immersive postgame field. 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Afc if 690 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: we're just looking at the playoff picture and you know wildcard, 691 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: implications you have The Steelers sunday than The jags Next. 692 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: Sunday but. 693 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: Money this was a team that had lost two straight 694 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: before going into playing The colts In pittsburgh for six, 695 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: turnovers yet only win by a. 696 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: Touchdown, YEAH i think you hit. 697 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: It you, know when you look at how that game played, 698 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: out it's seventeen to seven and you got to shut 699 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: and they had already had five, turnovers and then The 700 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: colts commit their, sixth like seventeen to, seven and the 701 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: turnover battle is five to, one and so THAT i 702 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: think speaks to their searching for that second refer for 703 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: those weapons For Aaron. Rodgers and that's why mvs got. 704 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: SIGNED i think it's a defense that on the back 705 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: end has given UP i mean three, interceptions three, fumbles 706 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: And daniel still through for what three hundred thirty, Yards 707 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: so like They Joe, blackout you, know three hundred and fifty, 708 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: yards Like Jordan love three hundred and fifty, Yards like 709 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: they've been able to get after. It SO i do 710 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: think there's those opportunities out. There even, though As i've 711 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: got to pulled up these last four, games that defensive 712 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: line has got a total of in the last four 713 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: games ninety six pressures in twelve. Sacks so it's kind 714 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: of it's just, Weird LIKE i don't know what when 715 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: you're trying to get the numbers to make, SENSE i 716 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: don't know what it. Is you, KNOW i think the 717 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: secondary has certainly. Struggled they Move Jalen ramsey to free. 718 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: Safety play there one hundred percent of the snaps against The. 719 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: Colts maybe that's part of. It but whatever the case, 720 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: is just if you look at how this season's laid, 721 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: out you know they're giving up, yards they're given up, 722 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: points and there's points out there that are. 723 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: Available so if. 724 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: You combine The chargers against The, Vikings titans defense the 725 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: last two weeks with what we've seen from This steelers 726 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: defense the last five, weeks, like, YEAH i can see this, 727 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: thing you, know being right in the balance and The 728 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: chargers having an opportunity to take advantage of. 729 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: It. Yeah, NO i agree with, You, Money and we 730 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: talked about The steelers and the way they like to play, 731 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: ball and it's a physical aspect of, them but that's 732 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 5: not the two thousand and Eight, steelers. Right, obviously they 733 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: have a front that you have to, respect AND i 734 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: think the game is going to be one in the. 735 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: Trenches you talked about the. Secondary our receivers have all 736 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 5: the talent in the world to get open against your, 737 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 5: secondary but we'll justin have enough. TIME i think the 738 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 5: game will be one in the trenches on the both 739 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 5: sides of The chargers offensive, Line chargers defensive. Line how 740 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: much time can they Give herbert and how much how 741 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: much can they get After Aaron. Rodgers obviously he's not 742 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 5: the most mobile guy in THE. Nfl he's really he's playing. 743 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: Well he's playing well at his. Age BUT i feel 744 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 5: like if you can get pressure on him And money 745 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: you talked about, it then win in the turnover. Margin, 746 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 5: chris you talked about, it then win in the turnover 747 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: margin and still scraping their teeth to get a, victory 748 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 5: like they can get got and it's it's there for 749 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 5: the taking for the. 750 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 6: Charger but they have to play a good game on 751 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 6: all three. 752 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: Phases you said the, money it's like a weird defense 753 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: to try to break. Down they've allowed more passing yards than. 754 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: Anybody they're third in sex this year with twenty, seven 755 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: their second in turnover, differential and NOW i, know yes 756 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: Or sunday had a lot to do with, that but 757 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: plus nine the charges are minus. Four SO i DO 758 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: i go back to the last two weeks and like 759 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: give it up a pick six in a near pick. 760 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 6: Six it's just. 761 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 7: Playing a clean football. Game and then like you, know. 762 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: We say it every week and it's it's easier said than. 763 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: Done but being able to protect justin with this new offensive, 764 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: line AND i think that they have the weapons on 765 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: the outside to. 766 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 7: Score and you're going to have to. 767 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: SCORE i think they've scored twenty one points in every 768 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: game this year but Won, pittsburgh but they've allowed over 769 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: thirty and a half their. Game SO i see this 770 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: being like in a high twenties typed. 771 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: Game, yeah you, know, look it's it's PROBABLY i know 772 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: that coach probably doesn't want to do, it at least 773 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: the formation stats tell us he. Doesn't BUT i think 774 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: you're probably talking about keeping six guys in for the 775 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: rest of the, season you, know and just trying to 776 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: figure out where is it best to. Plant you, Know 777 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: Tucker fisk is, it you, know the right tackles of 778 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: the left, Tackle which side do you. 779 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: Want Scott Matt locke? 780 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: On you, know if you're playing if you're playing twenty, 781 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: two Because gasden's out there With fisk And Matt lock's out, 782 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: there but you, know then you've only have two guys 783 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: in the. Route like it's it's. Hard at the same, 784 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: TIME i think the one benefit that The chargers have 785 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: Is lad mccackiy's a man. Beater he can you want 786 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: to play press, man he's going to eat. UP i 787 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: think we're starting to see that From Trey. Harris you, 788 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: know he's he's got that physicality to him or he's 789 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: willing to fight with. You so and we Know keenan 790 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: could do. It he's going to shake it the line of. 791 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: Scrimmage so they have they have the players to do. 792 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: IT i think the one thing you just got to 793 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: be careful of is and we saw from The. Titans, 794 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: man The, titans they were crowding the line of scrimmage 795 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: from the jump like they were Not they were not 796 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: worried about plays going over their. Head they thought they 797 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: could get home against that offensive line before they could 798 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: get those you, know deep rots to. Develop and SO 799 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: i think you're going to see that times ten from The. 800 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: Steelers and you Know Greg rolan was going to have 801 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: to figure out a, way and he's been really good 802 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: about that, script you, know to open the. Games we've 803 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: seen The chargers be very effective from the. Jump SO i, 804 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: think get that script, right get a couple of deep shots, 805 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: working and try to get that defense to back up 806 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: a little bit so your offense can. 807 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: Breathe, YEAH i agree with you that first the Script 808 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 5: money's talking about as the first fifteen plays of the, 809 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 5: game and those. 810 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: Are work throughout the whole. 811 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: Week everyone in the building knows what they're, running the 812 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: janitors know what they're, running the people in the cafeteria 813 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: know what they're. Running, Right so you have a great. 814 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 5: Point they're gonna Pressure, herbert, Right so that script is 815 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 5: look let's let's get some, runs let's get some. Screens 816 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 5: let's slow let's slow down that, pressure, right and then 817 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 5: we can ease into getting into our game, plan which 818 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: they're gonna have a really good game. Plan but first, 819 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: on first, off early and often they got to make 820 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 5: The steller say, whoa, whoa, whoa let's pump some. Break 821 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: let's pump our breaks, here because they're giving us so, 822 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 5: many so many different things that we got to. 823 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: Defend, yeah the last point before we get out of. 824 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 7: Here just the player Of Aaron rodgers this. 825 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: YEAR i don't know if it's been surprising to you 826 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: guys or, not But, uddy you mentioned he hadn't been 827 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: sacked a. Lot what do you what have you seen 828 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: from number eight? 829 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: This he's playing? Well, YEAH i think he's playing. WELL 830 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: i think. 831 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: It's it's probably kind of WHAT i. Expected you, know The. 832 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: Jets we've seen what The jets are the last twenty. 833 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: Years you, know it's just kind of, like for whatever, 834 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: reason it just doesn't matter who goes. 835 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: There it's it's. 836 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: Been that kind of a mess and it's kind of 837 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: hard to figure out because they've had talent and for whatever, 838 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 3: reason you, know they're either dominant defensively and the offense 839 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: can't get. 840 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 4: Going AND i think. 841 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: Unfortunately for whatever, Reason rogers just kind of succumbed to. 842 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: That and you, know we had a decent statistical year last, 843 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: year SO i don't think it was too out of 844 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: the realm of possibility to, envision, Like, okay he's got 845 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 3: a dominant, defense take care of the, ball which he. 846 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 4: Does he hates. 847 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: Throwing, Interceptions he'll just throw the ball away or he'll take. 848 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: Sacks AND i still think he's gettable. THOUGH i still 849 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 3: think that because that lack of athleticism is there now 850 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: in his game and he used to be so good 851 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: moving and throwing the on the, move and because that's not, 852 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: there and because they're trying to find that extra weapon 853 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: that you can still kind of get after, IT i 854 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: believe That Jesse miner can can kind of make some 855 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: things happen out. 856 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 6: THERE i, mean what else is left to say after? 857 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 5: Money just, No But i'm right there with you money, 858 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 5: Obviously Aaron rodgers playing really good. Ball he and the 859 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 5: biggest thing with, them like everywhere That Aaron rodgers has 860 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 5: went since he left The pittsburgh which is The, jets 861 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: he was able to bring in his own cast to, guys, 862 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 5: right he had influence on who they're bringing it in 863 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 5: the wide receiver position and The stellers this, year we're, like, no, no, no, no, 864 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 5: no we're not doing. That we want you as our. 865 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 5: Quarterback we're gonna bring IN Dj, Metcalf John. Smith we're 866 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 5: gonna bring in guys that we feel fit our system 867 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 5: and that you'll be successful. With AND i think that's 868 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 5: one of the biggest. Reasons OBVIOUSLY dk is having a 869 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 5: good year and them bringing in the weapons that fit 870 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 5: their system has really really Benefitted. Aaron he's seen everything, 871 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 5: right there's pre, snap post. Snap he's gonna know what 872 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 5: coverage you're. In it's just you got to be able to. 873 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: Execute you got to tackle, well eliminate the big, plays 874 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 5: and when you can get after, him you get after him. 875 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: Fast, yeah he And Arthur smith have worked well. Together 876 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: and just another big, one, guys an opportunity to go 877 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: to seven and three Before jacksonville and to buy and 878 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 2: just kind of stay above water in THAT Afc west 879 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: race because it's gonna be it's gonna come down the 880 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: last few. Weeks you got The broncos playing The chiefs 881 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: in a couple of. Weeks they're gonna play The raiders 882 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: before we take this On thursday, night but be fun 883 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: On sunday. 884 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 3: Night, guys no, doubt looking forward to it. Primetime, justine 885 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: it's always. Good, justin it's right that. 886 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 6: Point let's end on. That for money And. 887 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: Jalil I'm. Chris this has Been chargers with