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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast, presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: Live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode.

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Speaker 1: We will review the five picks we put into the

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Speaker 1: contest to psyche. This dissect why we left some games out,

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Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: There's a caveat there, Simon Adam about you. I've only

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Speaker 1: seen three lines posted at this point because nobody knows

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Speaker 1: who's doing what next week. I am joined by my

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Speaker 1: co host, my companion Michael Padre might beff professional better,

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter El Simon Chad.

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Speaker 2: It sad we're already at week eighteen. But at least

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Speaker 2: it's every game on Sunday in week eighteen.

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Speaker 3: So we go out.

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Speaker 1: It's two games on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Oh did they do Saturday again?

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Speaker 2: But still at least we get not all these games.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do two games of four o'clock today killed me.

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Speaker 2: I need a full day of Sunday games.

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Speaker 1: It was you know what, It threw my whole day off.

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Speaker 1: I just felt off. I was crabby. We are one

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Speaker 1: and two on the day. We went one and one

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Speaker 1: in our Saturday game picks, taking the Chargers ultimately minus

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Speaker 1: six and a half in the contest the Broncos plus

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Speaker 1: three and a half. That was a real kicking the dick.

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Speaker 1: We had the Panthers plus eight and a half against

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Speaker 1: the Bucks this afternoon. We have the Falcons three and

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Speaker 1: a half against Washington tonight, the Lions three and a

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Speaker 1: half against the Niners tomorrow. No surprise, Simon favorites eleven

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Speaker 1: to two and one on the weekend. Starting with the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday games, they are seven and one today. Only the

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Speaker 1: Colts lost as dogs, and they lost when the Giants

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Speaker 1: won outright. This has been the habit. If you're going

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Speaker 1: to be an underdog and you want to win, you

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Speaker 1: just got to win the game outright. There is no

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Speaker 1: covering as an underdog in the NFL anymore. Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: I'm so fucking sick of this. Catch our next episode

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Speaker 1: going to get to the Eagles when Simon is just

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Speaker 1: reveling in the glory of the Eagles and Saquon and

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Speaker 1: winning the division and getting the two seed even though

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Speaker 1: we didn't bet the Eagles or the Cowboys in the contest.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good vibes coming out of South Jersey

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Speaker 1: in Philly to day. So I want Simon to get

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Speaker 1: his moment. But we'll get to that because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: to talk about it next week. Anyways, First of all,

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Speaker 1: Simon chargers in New England. I had to go to

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Speaker 1: meant I was totally rushed getting our picks in before

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Speaker 1: the two hour drive through the rain. So like, we

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Speaker 1: normally put a pixe in on Thursday, and we liked

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Speaker 1: update before game time to see if there are better numbers.

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Speaker 1: And we had the Chargers four and a half. We

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Speaker 1: had the Panthers seven and a half. When I logged

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Speaker 1: into the Favorites contest pick site, the Chargers were five

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Speaker 1: and a half. The Panthers weren't eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: I text you, I'm like, what do you think? I

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Speaker 1: think we should just take the Chargers at five and

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Speaker 1: far we're together, right.

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Speaker 3: You with me?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Good? We do that. We resubmit the line is

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Speaker 1: at six and a half. We're like, fuck it. How

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Speaker 1: often is half a point mattered? It didn't really matter,

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Speaker 3: That was basically a conversation. It was a bad number.

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Speaker 2: We basically said though this this year, no half points

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Speaker 3: We talked about it two and a halfs I got

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the quick correction. Our producer's going crazy chat.

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Speaker 2: There are no Saturday games next week. It's all Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, oh, well, listen, I just I just

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Speaker 1: I said it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the internet and someone's lying. But he's right, he's right,

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Speaker 1: My bed, Oh, all of a sudden, Chad Milman's right,

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell is wrong. What do you know?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you nailed this Chargers game, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Like exactly what you said was going to happen. And

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Speaker 2: in another life I would have been on the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: But this year I've learned that Chalk is gonna win,

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Speaker 2: don't fight the movement. I mean literally every line that

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Speaker 2: Ravens went for four and a half up to six

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Speaker 2: The professional money has been coming in heavy, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: it's been hidden for him.

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Speaker 1: It's and it's not even like injury moves. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: just like it's truly been insane, even the Chargers. The

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Speaker 1: me you didn't feel like that was just excruciating, and

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Speaker 2: I love those games. That's I even like that game.

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Speaker 2: That was exciting. That's why I love the Gamble. It's

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Speaker 2: like a back and forth game. We died a thousand times.

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Speaker 2: I thought we had no chance. We came back in

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Speaker 2: of not covering this, which probably happened four or five times.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, obviously the end results sucked. But this year sucked.

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Speaker 3: It just sucks.

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Speaker 2: It sucks been dogs, So I would say, yeah, if

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Speaker 3: My favorite are the people online. I see your post.

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Speaker 2: Look, Chad and Simon can't say they were unlooking this game.

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Speaker 2: They had so much luck. Okay, we got lucky that

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Speaker 2: that happened and any other game yet this season? Like

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Speaker 2: that cover, I can't believe that guy when hit that bar.

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Speaker 2: I knew there was no way Joe brows and let

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Speaker 2: I was like that man just had rage in his eyes. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a game that was really fun as it better, but sucked. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like losing that a scrucinally that way.

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Speaker 3: It was brutal.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like that fourth and one to Mims,

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Speaker 2: me and you again, we're dead A thousand times. That

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Speaker 2: A fourth and one, eight seconds left touchdown.

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Speaker 3: It was absurd.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting? So have you ever driven on

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Speaker 1: the Major Degan Expressway leaving Manhattan?

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Speaker 3: I probably have. Everyone's just got maps though, it's just

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Speaker 1: Good, dangerous, tortuous roadway in the United States. It is

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Speaker 1: it is daytime, only every driver is on their phone

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Speaker 1: while blindfolded, and it was raining. And as we passed

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Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, Zach Taylor was inexplicably going for the touchdown

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Speaker 1: Taylor and Joe Burrow scored the touchdown. There was about

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Speaker 1: a minute twenty left. Yeah, I wanted like, of course,

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Speaker 1: and say, if Zach Taylor doesn't bleed this clock, I

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Speaker 1: I said, it's fine. And then you know what, as

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Speaker 1: what you deserve, Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: That's what I said too.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals have a terrible defense and gave the Broncos

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Speaker 1: a lot of time and a timeout to do exactly

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Speaker 1: what they did. I agree with you on this though,

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Speaker 1: like how many times can we miraculously lose win and

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Speaker 1: clock management, fuck cups by Taylor. Sean Payton wasn't at

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Speaker 2: Dember would I have had one first down and overtime

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Speaker 2: they win, They win or tie the game basically, And

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Speaker 2: that's that was his reason. Charan Payton said he didn't

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Speaker 2: you had four running plays and two passing plays. It's like,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not going down trying to win the game.

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Speaker 2: That was trying to play it safe and play for

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Speaker 2: that game was there for them to steal the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: like we just said, they're their defense played really good

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Speaker 1: here by the way, now's your time to gloat, brother,

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Speaker 1: Because I had the Packers, you had the Vikings. This

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Speaker 2: I'm still two and a half a Donkey Kong. I

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Speaker 3: Think that was another favorite that won uncovered.

435
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: At though Miami by seventeen points. Like, there were four

436
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: good games over the span of five days of football,

437
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: so incredibly frustrating to watch it now.

438
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: If you bet this is the dream.

439
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm happy for people not like us that

440
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: like the sports books. I can't wait to see what

441
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: their numbers are come the end of the year. Like

442
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: the teasers, all of it is just coming through.

443
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: You know what's bad When you're starting to think if

444
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: if October forced publicly traded operators to talk about losing

445
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars because of customer friendly outcomes,

446
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: none of that has stopped.

447
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: It's just got worse.

448
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: It's gotten worse and worse and worse. Congratulations to you,

449
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: Congratulations to all Eagles fans. Saquon Barkley two thousand and

450
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: three yards. They've won the division. They did it today

451
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: with some guy named McKean and and a combination of

452
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: him and Kenny Pickett and the Cowboys sort of losing

453
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: their they lost their will. They just sort of did

454
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: right like Cooper Rosh did his best. They didn't have

455
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: the horses, don't have the talent, don't have the players.

456
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: They did the best they could over the past six weeks.

457
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: But we worried, like we grabbed the Cowboys, you know,

458
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: at plus eight, because we were worried about Jalen Hurtz.

459
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Turns out nobody needed to be worried about Jalen Hurts.

460
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: We also said we thought the Eagles would defense scared

461
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: us a little bit because they'd want to come back

462
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: and prove it, and that's what they did. How do

463
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: you feel.

464
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Speaker 2: The dream season? Honestly, like the two teams I hate

465
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: the most. Cowboys the Giants had just a train wreck

466
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: of the season.

467
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: Giants.

468
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: On the same day we win our division, our biggest

469
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: win against the Cowboys since most points were scored against Cowboys,

470
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: biggest blow we've had against them in sixteen years, first

471
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: time we've swept them since twenty eleven. Same game, we

472
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: have the ninth running back in the NFL history, Saquon

473
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Barkle to get over with two thousand yards. Giants lose

474
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: the number one pick and they won't get the quarterback

475
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: they won hopefully. Oh my god.

476
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: It was Honestly, the Eagles fan was one of the

477
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: best days.

478
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: And you know the deal, unless you have a ton

479
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: of luck or mahomes, you're not winning the fucking super Bowl.

480
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. So you have to

481
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: enjoy these moments. It's so hard to win in this

482
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: league and be good. And last year, honestly took me

483
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: like four months to get over that collapse with that

484
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Eagles team.

485
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: It was just the worst way to go out, losing

486
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: like that.

487
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: And yeah, the fact that this team is probably the

488
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: most complete team right now the NFC.

489
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we literally not that we want to play

490
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: with our backup.

491
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: So the fact that you can put up forty points

492
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: with your second and then third stringing quarterback against the

493
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: Cowboys team that's not terrible.

494
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 3: But they did roll over and die today.

495
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: It was just an amazing feeling, Like I fucking hate

496
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. So the fact that they have a train

497
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: wreck of a season. We killed the Boys and the

498
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: two seed. It's a nice spot like I've seen My

499
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: dream scenario is Minnesota wins next week and they get

500
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: the one seed. Let Detroit come to Philly for a

501
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: night game outdoors. That's my dream scenario, going to going

502
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: to Detroit as Detroit's the one seed. I'll be honest,

503
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: it's scariest how to think about It's scary. Yeah, Gifford,

504
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: you were in diapers last time the Cowboys made a

505
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

506
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here, Cowboys.

507
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: I'm in is responding to the quote in the chat

508
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: from our cowboy loving producer Gifford, who just said, a

509
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: fucking parade being thrown for beating Cooper Rush. This is

510
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: what it's like sports, and.

511
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: From now on, please refer to me that as Gifford.

512
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: Uh.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a great day. The fact that

514
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: you beat a divisional team.

515
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: I love all the NFL does. It just stacks all

516
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: the divisional games end of the year. And it's just

517
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: the same thing we just saw in that Minnesota Green

518
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: Bay game. Like usually those are the dog fights when

519
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: you're in a divisional game. So to get easy win

520
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: like that win the vision.

521
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

522
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: As an Eagles fan chat, I'm ryan hig. I've been

523
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: drinking all day. Really, I don't drink for our show.

524
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: But it's it's just so hard to win the division

525
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: and it feels so good just to be a two

526
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: C with a chance at a super Bowl.

527
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm so depressed about these favorites continuing to win on us,

528
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: continuing to bet underdogs that I almost ate sugar today.

529
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: That's how upset I am. Almost.

530
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: We're still tinging bullets though as bad as it could be.

531
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: We dodged the Saints, we dodged Tennessee, we dodged Green Bay.

532
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: So it's like, that's that's sure, one and four. We

533
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: still have a chance of three and two. Brother, that's right, and.

534
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: We dodged we dodged the Cowboys, Like yeah, yeah, Should

535
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: we tell people about my dream on Friday night before

536
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: we get to the week eighteam.

537
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: Oh, look to I love dream bets. I love it

538
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: so uh.

539
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I've never had in

540
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: my life. It's a long life of passionate sports fandom,

541
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: including a love for the Bears that has been reciprocated

542
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: on very rare occasions. Okay, I've never had a dream

543
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: about a team winning a game. I don't know what's

544
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: going on because on Friday Night, I dreamt the New Saints,

545
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: We're going to win today, and I remember the very

546
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: specific I remember the very specific moment in the dream.

547
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: It's not like I dreamt about the whole game. It's

548
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: like I was somewhere or something, and then all of

549
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, I got like in my head the visual

550
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: of the Saints winning, and then it was gone. It

551
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: was like just a fleeting moment, and either in my dream.

552
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: I talked about it so much this week that it

553
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: implanted and embedded and came out in the dream. But

554
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: even then, even then, I held off on betting that

555
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: game until about ten fifty nine this morning before we

556
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: went out air for convinced me, and Raybaund said one

557
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: thing that was like, yeah, totally makes sense. Plus the

558
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Raiders were delayed until you know, four am this morning,

559
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: so of course you want to bet the Saints today.

560
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: So I pulled the trigger. Simon for a minute, you

561
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: were a believer, yeah, And I.

562
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: Told you I had to bet it.

563
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: You give me a dream, bet I'm going to bet

564
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 2: it because I unfortunately I rarely dream so and when

565
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: I do dream, it's just horrible, horrible nightmare. So when

566
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: you came to me with a dream bet that hopefully

567
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a winner. I'm all in, so

568
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: we'll keep track of this. All one went on dream bets. Yeah,

569
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: not ideal, but not dreams.

570
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: That is too funny. That's great. Well we got to

571
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: talk about some Week eighteen games. It's such a weird week,

572
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't really even know where to begin. What

573
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: are you seeing?

574
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Can you guys tell me? I'm looking all over for

575
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: the Saturday game. Who is Thisaturday game?

576
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't We don't know yet.

577
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Oh so the NFL is gonna decide. That's why it's

578
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: not in the schedule yet.

579
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nothing is decided. It's all nobody knows where

580
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: they're playing, or nobody knows what time they're playing or

581
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: what day they're playing. Yet we don't know.

582
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: So like a normal week, I'll put down a couple.

583
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: It depends. Week eighteen. I can get really weird with it.

584
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: I might hammer some lines tonight, just just be just

585
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: off of what might happen with who might be sitting,

586
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: who might be playing. I'm trying to get ahead of

587
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: the lines.

588
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm also trying to think about who might

589
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: still have something that they absolutely have to play for,

590
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: and who are they playing that doesn't have anything to

591
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: play for? And normally you'd want to smash the team

592
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: that has nothing to play for, but this year it

593
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: feels like you want to you want to go all

594
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: in on the team that does. And like I'm looking

595
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: at the Chargers minus five and a half on the

596
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: road against Las Vegas Raiders, coming off two straight wins.

597
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: They're still going to keep be trying. But do you

598
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: see Jim Harbaugh not trying in a game.

599
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: The sliding glass doors of Lad McConkie going to the

600
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Patriots and the Patriots not taking him their trade down

601
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: instead and the Chargers step in and take Lad.

602
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: Talk about finding something special right now with him.

603
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: And Herbert like yeah, right, they're really in the kitchen.

604
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: Had three touchdowns in that game, So I'm with you.

605
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: Chargers.

606
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: They're a team that they dominate bad teams, and we

607
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: talked about that's why we looked against the Patriots, and yeah,

608
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: interesting that they opened that at sixth though, Like that.

609
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Is five and a half now, So it came down

610
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I.

611
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, let's give him respect to this Raiders

612
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: team after obviously two big wins, you know, after last

613
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: year we saw it. Tony Pierce had these guys fired

614
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: up then the season, so maybe that's his deal. He's

615
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: a bad coach for three months and then the last two.

616
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: You can figure it out. But yeah, I join you

617
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: on that. I take fine, baffle the Chargers.

618
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: What about this is this is gonna be a good one.

619
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to two point favorite over the Steelers. I'm all

620
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: in on the Bengals at this point.

621
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: I'll join you with I'll definitely join you on it.

622
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: But man, this is truly Russian roulette here. At this point,

623
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: It's like, isn't this finally the spot? Are we really

624
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: betting on Tomlin.

625
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: To lose four straight?

626
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: Because that's what this would be, right, Yeah, this would

627
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: before straight, I believe so and everything dog.

628
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: We'd be fading Tomlin raw Raye as a dog. I

629
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: would not recommend, I would not recommend anybody go heavy

630
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: on these games.

631
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: I think the reads correct though, to honesty, chat on

632
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: this one, to grab this number now, because this, to

633
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: me will go up.

634
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: I think so too. Oh. I'm just saying like yeah,

635
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: like we always do, but I want to emphasize it.

636
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Little tastes like bet the direction you think the line

637
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: is going, to go. Don't go your full unit on

638
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: these games. I liked I like Cincinnati in this spot.

639
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrow has this team REVVD. This defense

640
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: is terrible, but we just haven't seen anything from the

641
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Steelers offense in the past month that makes us feel

642
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: like they can actually do something to the Bengals that

643
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: will turn this game into something that is out of

644
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: reach for the Bengals to win the way they need

645
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: to win in order to make the playoffs.

646
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: This is the perfect defense. So for Russ Wilson to

647
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: get right against.

648
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: Every it's the perfect defense for every If you look.

649
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: At the last three teams you played, that was a gauntlet,

650
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: Like this is Cincinnati Bengals defense. We're talking like they

651
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: stayed terrible, terrible defense.

652
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: But I agree with that. Betting the Bengals here to

653
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: me is just about the number. This to me is

654
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: a good number. It's just two. Like if this was three,

655
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: I could be talked.

656
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Into the Pittsburgh But at two, to me, you're making

657
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: the right read here that this is this is where

658
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: you should put the early money.

659
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: We know Detroit Minnesota is going to be a game

660
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: where everyone's going all out. Line is three right now.

661
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: But like I said, there's two and a halfs out there,

662
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: and that's like I want to take the lines at

663
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: two and a half.

664
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: Like to me, that's that's.

665
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: Where I want to be at once you get up

666
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: to three, same thing, like I am happy to take

667
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: Minnesota at three. This this just feels like a field

668
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: goal game, like a divisional game. It's a playoff game,

669
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: and these guys are.

670
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: All going to be so tight.

671
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: We just saw today like Green Bay never should have

672
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: came back and that spot. We see weird things happen

673
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: these divisional games. Team just get so tight towards the

674
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: end of it. So it's all about the number. Even

675
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: though I usually I take two and a half with

676
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: the dog, I mean the book that is very telling

677
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: them open this two and a half.

678
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: That is a ton of respect to this Vikings team.

679
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: But to me, once again, this is the disrespect to

680
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: this this Detroit team, where yes they're missing guys defensively,

681
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: this offense is an absolute juggernaut. If they have the

682
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: ball last this game's tied, we're getting three with this

683
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: Detroit team or we're winning by field goals. So that

684
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: to me, just that number feel is right. Two and

685
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: a half that's where the value is. If you want

686
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: to take Minnesota, just wait grab the three.

687
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to seeing the number on

688
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: Denver and Kansas City because we know Carson Wentz is

689
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback. We know they're going to

690
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: be sitting a lot of starters. That number. That number

691
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: is seven and a half. The Broncos are favored by

692
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: seven and a half even playing Carson Wentz and sitting

693
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of starters. I mean, you got to play

694
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: somebody for Kansas City, and so that number feels high

695
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: to me.

696
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: It feels high, especially because.

697
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 2: This Denver team, not that bon Knicks isn't hasn't played

698
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: well down the stretch here, but he definitely is not

699
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: consistent like he was earlier in the season, right and

700
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: they like we saw it against that Cincinnati team.

701
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: He had two or three three and outs in the.

702
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: First half and they basically had the ball I think

703
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: four possessions total, maybe three possessions total.

704
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

705
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like you just said, we know the Chiefs.

706
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: It's not just the Mahomes that's the magic of that team.

707
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: It's the coaching staff. And they still have the coaches there.

708
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: They still have to play a field team, right, they

709
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: have fifty three guys, they're gonna make it work finding

710
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: the twenty two to put on the field. So you

711
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: said they're gonna set a lot of important veterans. Obviously

712
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Denver's line is gonna be Wentz in the hell like that.

713
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: We know that the Chiefs offensive line starters.

714
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Aren't that good.

715
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what their backups are like. But I

716
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: think what you're basically touching on is it's seven and

717
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: a half. Like, Okay, if it goes up at meachag

718
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: get burned here, we don't need to put more money

719
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: on it, but just opening number, I would take the

720
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: seven and a half.

721
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: That just feels a little too high.

722
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Too much respect for this Denver's team.

723
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: The last one we got to talk about Carolina Panthers

724
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: seven and a half on the road at Atlanta. I

725
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: do think they missed Chewba Hubbard today. Their run game

726
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: was not nearly as effective. But the problem with this

727
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: team was really their defense. I mean, I don't think

728
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: they were playing defense. Every receiver was wide open. Bucky

729
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: Irving were getting six, seven, eight yards before he would

730
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: be tackled. If that's what the Bucks did, the Falcons

731
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: run game, which is so much better. Like, I feel

732
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: like we need to talk about the Panthers because we've

733
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: talked about him every week. But I'm not interested in

734
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: that line right now.

735
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: No, Like, you're right, I'm very tempted. You're I think

736
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: you're right that I don't. I don't want to touch

737
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: it yet, though I like you. I know you're coming

738
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: from this Panthers team today just hurt, Like they.

739
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: Just hurt so much.

740
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: They totally rolled over in that second half. So smart,

741
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: smart by the book hanging the seven and a half.

742
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: It's it's incredibly tempted, especially if Atlanta pulls off the

743
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: upset tonight. Just quickly, we'll get up to eight and

744
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: a half, nine I'm sure by kickoff.

745
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: And then then we'll take the Panthers. By the way, uh,

746
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: Denver is all of a sudden up to nine against

747
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City.

748
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: So that shows you that we were dead wrong on

749
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: that professional money like money likes to fade.

750
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz in that backup.

751
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Any games, any games that I didn't mention that immediately

752
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: stuck out to you. Kind of not knowing a ton

753
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: about who's playing.

754
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: Yet finally, after I think ten weeks I ain't taking

755
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee minus four and a half against Houston. That's just

756
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: Houston is horrible. They're gonna be playing all their backups.

757
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: I know how bad this Tennessee team is, but this

758
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: is still their starters. So it's their stars going against

759
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: a really bad backup Houston team. That the only reason

760
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: they've even been competitive this year is because of guys

761
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: like Roy Anderson and c J. Stroud obviously, so they're

762
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: just terrible. I think Evan tweeted out, they set the

763
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: record today, right? Is it two and fourteen Evan against

764
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: the spread?

765
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Give me give me ten to see you one

766
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: last time. I can't help it.

767
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know about you, and I know that

768
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: it's it's probably too too raw for you to take.

769
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: Actually it's probably not. Would you take fourteen Saints against

770
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: the Bucks?

771
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would. I was looking at that. Uh, Spencer,

772
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: they don't have any players, is the problem? Like they

773
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: really don't. They like the Saints. Spencer Rattler. He tried

774
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: his hardest today and he was confident. He put them

775
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: in a position to score some points. But they have nobody,

776
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: like literally nobody who can make a play on that team.

777
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: They don't have a dynamic running back. They don't have

778
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: any dynamic receivers. Juwan Johnson is a tight end is okay,

779
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: but not great. Cam Jordan is eighty five years old.

780
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: He's really their only defensive playmaker other than Tarn Matthew,

781
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: who's also eighty five years old. So the challenge is

782
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: what are the Bucks going to be doing? They're probably

783
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: gonna have to play for it. And we saw what

784
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: Baker did today. You know he's on a roll right now.

785
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: So it's not I'm not feeling burned by the Saints.

786
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: If I didn't want to bet anybody who I've been

787
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: burned by, I would just quit because of this being

788
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: that kind of season. But I like, they don't have

789
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: any players. They've been playing their backups the way the

790
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: Chiefs are, the way the Texans will be. Yeah, they've

791
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: been doing that for a month. So I just don't

792
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: know how they're going to score any points, all right,

793
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm wrong

794
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: every week now.

795
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: One of my favorite another one of my favorite gross dogs,

796
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: Giants plus four at Philly. Come on, please Eagles lose

797
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: that game. Let the Giants he get him in better

798
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: a draft pick but Drew Locke when he's on, he's

799
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: on like today that first half, I think he one

800
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns, and it wasn't

801
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: even so much about him, It was just about Neighbors.

802
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: And apparently Neighbors is playing for some records here, he's

803
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: chasing brock Barer's reception record. Yeah, and I just love

804
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: that whole I love the mood of this Giant team

805
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: coming to this game, like it doesn't feel like they're

806
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: trying to lose, obviously, and the fact that this is

807
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: plus four, this has to go down like this is

808
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: gonna drop. Eagles are not going to play anybody. A

809
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: bunch of the guys already said all the Vets are

810
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: getting rest days pretty much, and I know a lot

811
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: of Eagles fans were hoping that Sakwan would go for

812
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: the record. I think he seems like he's content getting

813
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: the two thousand yard mark. He could use a user

814
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: rest week, So this is just trying to get ahead

815
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: of the number. Plus four just feels like way way

816
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: too high for an Eagles team that's probably been playing

817
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: their third stringer. I don't think they will play Kenny Pickett,

818
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: who got banged up in this game.

819
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Kudos to uh Nick Giffen who talked about this game

820
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: and taking the Giants and extolling the virtues of Drew Locke.

821
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: He didn't say it was a good quarterback. He just

822
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: said he wasn't as bad as he has been playing

823
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: based on the numbers. And I laughed and laughed and laughed.

824
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're so optimistic, young man, my son, and

825
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: he nailed it. Drew Locke played exactly the way Nick

826
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: Giffen was going to play. I don't mind that one.

827
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: That feels like a fun one to do. We'll definitely

828
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: have to have a conversation about that. The games that

829
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: we will probably like take a little taste of, I'd

830
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: probably take the Chargers, you said Tennessee and the Giants.

831
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: Well about your boy Mitch Trubisky for Buffalo against New England.

832
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Hold on the Bengals. Also, I want to take a

833
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: little taste. What's the number in that miss Trubisky game

834
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: and a half? He's pretty bad, though, very very about today.

835
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: I think he did it for relief.

836
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: He did, but you know it was like he threw

837
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: a screen and then a guy ran, you know, fifty yards.

838
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: Some guy named Shavers. I'm sure Matt Mitchell knows everything about.

839
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: His Jeh, time will start it.

840
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: You think they'll start it though, Matt Mitchell and then

841
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: just come out after the first snap?

842
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: Or I think so yeah.

843
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: I think he'll play a series three handoffs.

844
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 3: You know, he's a man.

845
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: Mis Trubisky goes in, Were they playing again?

846
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: I just lost it New England Patriots.

847
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: That's right, I don't know. I also feel like Patriots

848
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: want to get as much goodwill in Drake May's head

849
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: as he can get. And this was not a very

850
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: good game against the Chargers, and if the Bills are

851
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: packing it in, there's a chance for him to play

852
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: decently against the defense that was already pretty bad. Anyways, true,

853
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: all right, Well, it'll be an interesting show on Tuesday.

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