Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Jetty and he.
Speaker 2: Arms Wrong.
Speaker 1: Live from Studio C say s you're we're in a
Speaker 1: dimly lit room deep with them, the bowels of the
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Communications counbound on Little Friday, and today
Speaker 1: we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: Hit make me.
Speaker 2: The secret Hard Court has rolled repeatedly that compelled speech
Speaker 2: is every bit is forbidden by the First Amendment is
Speaker 2: restricting speech.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to say it?
Speaker 2: I won't.
Speaker 1: The General manager today the Jeffrey Epstein Files, or what
Speaker 1: is known as when they vote on it next week,
Speaker 1: the Epstein Transparency Act.
Speaker 2: There was a vote yesterday. First thing they did when
Speaker 2: they opened the government back up. First thing worth repeating.
Speaker 1: The first thing they did was they swore in this
Speaker 1: new Arizona congress woman who had won in a special election,
Speaker 1: but over the last fifty some days or whatever, hadn't
Speaker 1: had a chance to get sworn in.
Speaker 2: There's no time the schedule was for with the shutdown
Speaker 2: and whatnot. And she gave a little speech about this
Speaker 2: and that, including we need to see the Epstein files.
Speaker 2: And she was a yes vote, as were many Republicans,
Speaker 2: including this guy. Representative Massey will be hearing from him
Speaker 2: a little bit later. Who went out there and said, Hey, Republicans, done,
Speaker 2: other Republicans. He's a maggat conservative Republican couldn't be more
Speaker 2: in charge of and forcefully advocating for the Epstein Transparency Act.
Speaker 2: Who said, hey, other Republicans, before you vote next week,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump isn't going to be around forever. This vote
Speaker 2: will be hanging around your neck forever. If you decide
Speaker 2: to stand up for protecting pedophiles when you're in a
Speaker 2: debate in twenty thirty with either a Republican or Democrats,
Speaker 2: somebody's going to look at you and say, why did
Speaker 2: you vote to cover up for pedophiles? Wow, that's from
Speaker 2: Republican Congressman Massey challenging themself. Loose cannon. But yeah, he's
Speaker 2: pretty magga. Well, so that's where this thing, the whole
Speaker 2: thing gets interesting. I still don't understand what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: I still don't know if there's any there there. Although
Speaker 2: why Trump's fighting so hard to keep this from happening.
Speaker 2: So it was a really close vote yesterday, and Trump
Speaker 2: was trying to turn some of the Republican votes that
Speaker 2: were extra Maggie away from voting for this so that
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have a chance to come up for vote
Speaker 2: next week. And for instance, Lauren Bobert, of the type
Speaker 2: Jean's high heels and hand jobs in movie theaters, there's
Speaker 2: that Lauren Bobert, congressperson from Colorado. Frank there, but go on,
Speaker 2: I'm just describing who she's what she's known for. There's
Speaker 2: more than one way, but go on. They actually brought
Speaker 2: her into the White House and had the Attorney General
Speaker 2: and the FBI director pressuring her to vote no.
Speaker 1: She voted yes. Anyway, that's a heck of a move.
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Why you doing it?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just I'm exhausted, completely exhausted by this. Why
Speaker 2: are you? Why you working that hard? And then you
Speaker 2: got the whole thing, and we did this on the
Speaker 2: area yesterday. The Democrats released whatever, twenty thousand pages or
Speaker 2: some cherry picked emails or whatever, and then the Republicans
Speaker 2: released twenty three thousand pages of the The reason this
Speaker 2: is so much more interesting than like every other battle
Speaker 2: of the last decade is you got a chunk of
Speaker 2: the most maga people in our government who are hardcore.
Speaker 2: The Epstein files need to come out, right, And I
Speaker 2: personally know a couple of people that are very maga
Speaker 2: whose biggest disappointment is the Epstein files haven't come out yet,
Speaker 2: and Trump's fighting like hell to keep them from coming out.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I'm gonna strike a bargain with
Speaker 2: the world right now. World here it is, take it
Speaker 2: or leave it. When the Democrats had both houses in
Speaker 2: the White House, they didn't come up with anything that
Speaker 2: is really damaging to Republicans. Republicans have been in power,
Speaker 2: they haven't really come up with anything damaging to Democrats
Speaker 2: or really themselves. Just some innuendo and vaguely worded emails.
Speaker 2: The first thing of real significance that comes out, you
Speaker 2: tell me, and I'll pay attention to this steam and
Speaker 2: pilot crap. This country faces existential threats, existential and we're
Speaker 2: obsessing with this garbage. Makes me insane. I can't take
Speaker 2: it anymore. In twenty twelve, mister Epstein emailed one of
Speaker 2: his lawyers. This is one of the emails that came
Speaker 2: out of here Stay, saying he needed to get someone
Speaker 2: to dig into Donald Trump's finances, including the mortgage on
Speaker 2: Marl and the thirty million dollar loan that mister Epstein
Speaker 2: said mister Trump had received, and they needed to be
Speaker 2: dug into.
Speaker 1: That there's dirt there, Okay, is.
Speaker 2: There or not? That lawyer was contacted yesterday by The
Speaker 2: New York Times, he said, attorney client privileges.
Speaker 1: I got nothing to say.
Speaker 2: Epstein's dead, so can't ask him. As Trump's presidential campaign
Speaker 2: gained traction, in December of twenty fifteen, mister Epstein asked
Speaker 2: a New York Times reporter, would you like a photo
Speaker 2: of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen? It's
Speaker 2: unclear whether Epstein actually possessed such photos, and this mister Thomas,
Speaker 2: who doesn't work with The New York Times anymore, says
Speaker 2: mister Epstein never provided him.
Speaker 1: But he did send him that message. Well, and what
Speaker 1: the hell does that mean?
Speaker 2: Girls? Did he mean twenty four year old models are
Speaker 2: thirteen year olds? I it makes all the difference in
Speaker 2: the world. Again, vague innuendo. But then why would you?
Speaker 2: And this isn't really cool? Bringing Lauren Bobert and have
Speaker 2: the Attorney General and FBI director pressuring her to vote
Speaker 2: knowing this thing. Yes, that's not a good look. No,
Speaker 2: you know, you get I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: It could be that this Trump is truly like me,
Speaker 2: disgusted by this idiotic waste of time.
Speaker 1: But at this point, you know, even when a lot
Speaker 1: of his magabass is like super on fire for it, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the.
Speaker 2: Kind of paranoid conspiracy base. But at this point, with
Speaker 2: the one caveat that you've got to continue to protect
Speaker 2: the victims' names and that sort of thing, and you
Speaker 2: know the usual ways that the Justice Apartment handles. I
Speaker 2: don't think there's any choice but to just flood the
Speaker 2: zone with all of it. Just get all of it
Speaker 2: out so we can move the hell on. Well, I
Speaker 2: think it's going to happen next week, and then is
Speaker 2: that going to be a whole bunch of We got
Speaker 2: another email we'll get to later where Epstein says something
Speaker 2: about the dog that didn't bark is how dirty Trump
Speaker 2: is in this whole thing, but doesn't specify in any way. No, no,
Speaker 2: can it all come out next week and then people
Speaker 2: dig through It'll take a while to dig through everything, sure,
Speaker 2: and then they just find nothing but like innuendo and
Speaker 2: kind of vague suggestions he's pretty dirty.
Speaker 1: Wait till you find out. Would you like to see
Speaker 1: some pictures that I've never shown anybody in?
Speaker 2: Right? Uh? And then and then what it? And then
Speaker 2: does it just go away? And I never have to
Speaker 2: hear about it again? Could that happen? My evidence that
Speaker 2: there's nothing really there is entirely circumstantial, which I've described already.
Speaker 2: Everybody's had power, everybody's had access, nothing's happened, So I
Speaker 2: don't think anything will happen. Well, there had another point
Speaker 2: I was going to make, But while you're thinking of
Speaker 2: that point, I'll go with the circumstantial evidence the other direction.
Speaker 1: As Mark Alprin writes in his newsletter today, m sorry
Speaker 1: jumped down to.
Speaker 2: Here until someone explains why Maxwell moved to a cushy prison,
Speaker 2: why Bobert was in the situation room being pressured by
Speaker 2: the c the FBI director. The level of suspicion around
Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with the emails that were
Speaker 2: released on Wednesday. Why is Donald Trump working so hard
Speaker 2: to keep these from coming out? Yeah? Fair enough. I
Speaker 2: would not be shocked to find out that he was
Speaker 2: up to no good at some point in the past.
Speaker 2: He was a millionaire womanizing playboy type and ran in
Speaker 2: some racy circles. And that is some pretty decent, circumstantial
Speaker 2: evidence that there's something there. Although the Julaine Maxwell thing,
Speaker 2: I still say it was as simple as back, you know,
Speaker 2: two rounds of this crap ago. Trump had her come
Speaker 2: out and say Trump never did anything. And this bargain
Speaker 2: he struck with her and her lawyers was that she
Speaker 2: would be moved to a cushy, cushy girls camp, a
Speaker 2: tennis camp with you know, a perimeter. I mean, what
Speaker 2: do I have to pay for a week in that
Speaker 2: prison camp? Some me take care of my kids. It's
Speaker 2: been a week in that prison sounds fair. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm watching some sort of mystery movie.
Speaker 2: Judy and I like to watch mystery movies. But we're
Speaker 2: stuck on the first scene. Well, there's been a murder
Speaker 2: most foul. I wonder which of these towns people could
Speaker 2: have done it? But then you never get any more
Speaker 2: like serious clues. You just stay stuck in that first
Speaker 2: scene talking about murder most foul. You bring me something, anything, please,
Speaker 2: or forget it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: Watching MSNBC last night, it was the only story they
Speaker 2: had watched Morning Some Morning Joe and MSNBC today they
Speaker 2: were heavy, heavy on the Epstein thing. I watched about
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of Fox and Friends and it never came.
Speaker 1: Up at all. So Fox has decided a better approach.
Speaker 1: It's not a story that they want to carry, even
Speaker 1: though for a lot of the Magabas it's a huge thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would like to call it the Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 2: don't have to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Act that they're going to vote on next week.
Speaker 2: If they vote and it comes out and then there's
Speaker 2: nothing there, and then are we done? So, Nancy mays
Speaker 2: without saying that would have my vote to your high
Speaker 2: profile MAGA people, Nancy Mace, South Carolina, Lauren Barber Colorado,
Speaker 2: Oh Cuckoo, both pressured yesterday to vote no because it
Speaker 2: was such a close vote, but they.
Speaker 1: They went ahead and voted.
Speaker 2: Yet, let's release there, let's move on with the Epstein stuff.
Speaker 2: Two congress people who are proof of the whole hot
Speaker 2: crazy matrix that was such a popular YouTube video not
Speaker 2: too long ago.
Speaker 1: Oh man, what a deal?
Speaker 2: All right? Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong,
Speaker 2: he's Joe getting on this. How did it already get
Speaker 2: to be now that there's no more government shutdown? It's
Speaker 2: everything's changed. Thursday, November thirteenth, the year twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that
Speaker 3: President Seump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has
Speaker 3: always said is that he was from Palm Beach and
Speaker 3: so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at
Speaker 3: mar A Lago until President Trump kicked him out because
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep.
Speaker 2: If I was gonna try try to put my best
Speaker 2: guess onto what's going on here is Trump did a
Speaker 2: lot of party in with Epstein with a lot of
Speaker 2: young women, which he'd been hanging around his whole life,
Speaker 2: you know, up until not that long ago, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's his thing, and he thinks he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He's not a.
Speaker 2: I'm like I was going to name some names, but
Speaker 2: this hasn't been proven in like some names on the
Speaker 2: list who I think really liked the idea of having
Speaker 2: sex with seventeen year olds. Let's go with Prince Andrew. Okay,
Speaker 2: Prince Andrew Matt Gates like that was their thing. It
Speaker 2: turned him on for some reason. I think Donald Trump
Speaker 2: might look back at all those partying days and thinking, God,
Speaker 2: I am no idea. I didn't ask she was pretty young.
Speaker 2: I just assumed they were all of age until I
Speaker 2: found out Jeffrey Epstein's into the hole underagenting.
Speaker 1: Holy crap.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I think that's a pretty pretty good supposition.
Speaker 1: Oh and the whole I didn't know thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody would much traction you get
Speaker 2: with that?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do and peach him? What was
Speaker 1: it gonna happen? Anyway? He can't run again, right right?
Speaker 2: I just honestly, the fact that this dropped the day
Speaker 2: the shutdown ended and the Democrats were shown to have
Speaker 2: been show voting for no good purpose, and Chuck Schumer
Speaker 2: looks like the grizzled, old, used up bum that he is. Please,
Speaker 2: It's just this is an enormous distraction. I mean, we've
Speaker 2: got a thirty eight trillion dollar debt or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It might be fifty by now you know, the house
Speaker 2: is burning down and we're arguing about the paint color.
Speaker 2: It's just insane. Joe Getti covering up for pedophiles, just
Speaker 2: like a fair assessment. Just like Massey said, We've got
Speaker 2: Katie's headlines on the way and a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 1: Stay here.
Speaker 2: Well, one thing I'm trying to sense is how many
Speaker 2: of you listeners to the Armstrong and Getty Show give
Speaker 2: a crap about the Epstein thing that I don't actually know.
Speaker 2: I just saw a poll that about three quarters of
Speaker 2: Americans want the file to come out. Whatever the file means,
Speaker 2: probably so we can stop hearing about it. Could be
Speaker 2: they are my two favorite headlines. Katie Number one the
Speaker 2: college student who did a wheelie for ninety three miles.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I.
Speaker 2: Asked him the all time record by like forty miles.
Speaker 2: I got to tell my son about that. I said,
Speaker 2: how long far you can do a WHEELI and he
Speaker 2: said he did do one all the way downtown once.
Speaker 1: That was four miles.
Speaker 2: This guy was six plus hours of wheelies. Wow. His
Speaker 2: prostate will never work again in your arms is what
Speaker 2: it gives out on you. And my other favorite headline,
Speaker 2: Chinese diplomat threatens to cut off Japanese leader's head.
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. Now that's a threat. That's a fleck.
Speaker 2: All right. Let's see what Katie's favorite headlines are. Who's reporting?
Speaker 2: What is leave story with Katy Green? Katy, here's a
Speaker 2: headline for me. Horrible story. Somebody broke into my house
Speaker 2: and stole all my fruit, left me peachless. You could
Speaker 2: have given me fifty guesses for the last word of
Speaker 2: that sentence.
Speaker 1: Wait what Oh? I feel like the governments.
Speaker 4: I feel like the government shutdowns over the jokes are back.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's right, that's right, it's the Department of Jokes
Speaker 2: now real, Oh god, with all the full.
Speaker 1: Back pay.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Starting with the Washington Post, Transportation Department freezes at flight
Speaker 4: cuts at six percent, citing strum staffing and possible recovery.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, there you go.
Speaker 4: From NBC, Gavin Newsom's former chief of staff accused of
Speaker 4: stealing campaign funds from ex health Secretary of Besara.
Speaker 2: That's weird Gavin would associate with a criminal.
Speaker 1: Is there any is that paint Gan in any bad way?
Speaker 1: At all, so have anything to do with him? Really?
Speaker 1: Apparently he knew about it and didn't say anything. So
Speaker 1: oh really okay, well that's something I.
Speaker 2: Was letting the investigation proceede.
Speaker 4: From the Free Beacon, NYPD officers say, Mom, Donnie's win
Speaker 4: will lead to an exodus of quote a few hundred officers.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'll be something to see. Yikes.
Speaker 4: From the Wall Street Journal, Streaming prices are soaring and
Speaker 4: consumers are still.
Speaker 2: Paying streaming prices like you for your Netflix in there,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Hulu and that sort of thing. Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't even know this is the price one, of course
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Got it on a want to pay like
Speaker 2: everybody does. All right, one goes up three dollars, one
Speaker 2: goes up five dollars, the other goes up six dollars,
Speaker 2: and you don't really notice it until it accumulates.
Speaker 4: From the New York Times, Will people trust voting by phone?
Speaker 4: Alaska is going to find out?
Speaker 1: Huh? Apparently they're going to test.
Speaker 2: This out an anchorage, and they think that's better than
Speaker 2: voting by mail.
Speaker 1: It might be.
Speaker 4: Actually have better security and it'll be easier.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I'd have to noodle this through. I want
Speaker 2: lower turnout, not higher, because the bottom twenty percent of
Speaker 2: the moron population should not be voting for This could
Speaker 2: be the way of the future.
Speaker 1: I want poll testing as you know, Yes, love this.
Speaker 4: One New York Post seventy nine year old Vietnam veteran
Speaker 4: piled as a hero after he shot and killed naked
Speaker 4: intruder who broke into female tenants la home.
Speaker 2: Ah God, dang it.
Speaker 1: Good for him, yeah. Page six.
Speaker 4: Diddy's prison release date pushed back after rapper allegedly violates
Speaker 4: multiple rules.
Speaker 1: M what do you do?
Speaker 4: Well, there's speculation apparently he was drinking the Bruno.
Speaker 2: I likes to get a buzz after a long day.
Speaker 2: He is not Christall Bruno.
Speaker 4: And finally, the babylon Be Democrats somberly remove sombreros, signaling
Speaker 4: the end of the shutdown.
Speaker 2: Those a good times, the sombrero days. Oh those were
Speaker 2: the best days of the shutdown. The sombrero days. I'd
Speaker 2: forgotten about those. We got to catch up on all
Speaker 2: the news of the day on the way if you
Speaker 2: miss a segment of the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
Speaker 2: demand Armstrong and Getty, Well, guys, let's send us as
Speaker 2: self driving taxi company Weimo said that their cars will
Speaker 2: start taking customers on the freeway for the first time.
Speaker 2: They made the announcement after a Weimo accidentally took a
Speaker 2: customer on.
Speaker 1: The freeway first. That's pretty funny. Yeah, we're doing that now.
Speaker 2: That's actually pretty funny joke. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 2: I promise this is a tease. I will shut up
Speaker 2: about it for a while. But the Speaker of the House,
Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, was just asked about the Epstein file vote.
Speaker 2: He said it will happen. He will because he didn't
Speaker 2: have to bring it to a vote. He will bring
Speaker 2: it to the floor next week for a full House vote.
Speaker 2: So it's going to happen. Okay, good, all right. It
Speaker 2: reminds me of like oral surgery. The sooner we start,
Speaker 2: the sooner it's going to be over. Let's just get
Speaker 2: it all done, please. So a couple of really interesting,
Speaker 2: unexpected commentaries on the shutdown in just the politics these days.
Speaker 2: The first one why Schumer had to do it, Some
Speaker 2: really good analysis from Barton swam and yeah it was
Speaker 2: AOC and his left right. Everybody knows that he's going
Speaker 2: to get primary.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The crazy part is He's seventy four freaking years old,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't run again until twenty twenty eight, So
Speaker 2: that means it's just one hundred percent assumed a seventy
Speaker 2: six year old man he's going to run for another
Speaker 2: six year terms.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be horrifying if he did, regardless of
Speaker 2: someone there running against him. Yeah. Yeah. But as Barton
Speaker 2: Swain points out in The Wall Street Journal, from the
Speaker 2: beginning of the dispute, Everyone dispute, Everyone seems to have
Speaker 2: understood that mister Schumer forced a shut down because he
Speaker 2: needed to show his state's progressive voters he could take
Speaker 2: it to Trump and fend off AOC right. Ezra Cline
Speaker 2: in The New York Times wrote, the whole stunt was
Speaker 2: about Trump's authoritarianism. It was about showing their base and
Speaker 2: themselves that they could fight back. Guy in Politico says
Speaker 2: Democrats achieved their primary political objective, showing a furious base
Speaker 2: that they can actually work together effectively.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what happened to flee for what
Speaker 2: do any of y'all watch? John Stewart on The Daily
Speaker 2: Show Monday night. That was one of his great performances.
Speaker 2: I liked it because he was attacking Democrats as opposed
Speaker 2: to Republicans, and he's really really good at that sort
Speaker 2: of thing. But man, he was incensed that the Democrats
Speaker 2: caved the way they did, so the whole we showed
Speaker 2: the base that we fought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's.
Speaker 2: Way it landed with a lot of them, right, They're
Speaker 2: prepared to fight with every tool at their disposal, says
Speaker 2: the political guy. All right, But who are what callum rights?
Speaker 2: That's the part I liked. Who's that base to which
Speaker 2: these fellows are referring? Poke around you'll find it consists
Speaker 2: mainly of cash flush foundations, unions and activist groups, the ACLU,
Speaker 2: the Sunrise Movement, other environmental and climate groups, Planned Parenthood,
Speaker 2: other abortion rights outfits on an array of immigrants rights
Speaker 2: and associations, some of them so radical is to be
Speaker 2: almost insurrectionist. The American Federation of Teachers. Don't get me
Speaker 2: started in the National Education Association, Southern Poverty Law Center,
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter, other racial justice organizations, Human Rights Campaigned,
Speaker 2: a sort of LGBTQ plus minus over the power of
Speaker 2: three activist groups, scores of foreign connected, Palestinian rights and
Speaker 2: otherwise anti Zionist groups and the George Soros funded network
Speaker 2: known as the Open Society Foundations, on and on and on,
Speaker 2: and then he points out that it's interesting and revealing
Speaker 2: that the Democrats tried to make such a big deal
Speaker 2: of the Koch Brothers right back in the day, and
Speaker 2: the Koch Brothers are mostly libertarian leaning and are not
Speaker 2: very close to trump Ism at all. But he points
Speaker 2: out that the reason the Democrats are always saying that
Speaker 2: Republicans are controlled by their activist groups because the Democrats
Speaker 2: are and they really really fear running a foul of
Speaker 2: these far left groups that really don't represent Americans at
Speaker 2: all except on the left fringe, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them are still like the NAACP, a legendary organization did
Speaker 2: amazing work during the Civil Rights era. They are now
Speaker 2: a far left blackmail organization like the Southern Poverty lawsonerre
Speaker 2: just nothing like they were, Which brings us to this
Speaker 2: great piece Jeff Blair wrote for National Review. And this
Speaker 2: has happened over and over again, and I just love
Speaker 2: it so much. I'm honored lefty organization in this case,
Speaker 2: the Sierra Club, eaten apart from inside by its woke
Speaker 2: staffers and he asks, where does power truly reside? It
Speaker 2: often resides only where people believe it does, and only
Speaker 2: up until the moment people believe it to reside there.
Speaker 2: And the Sierra Club, once one of America's most formidable
Speaker 2: ecological activist groups and a group that did very good
Speaker 2: work back in the day, is giving up the illusion
Speaker 2: that it wields any power whatsoever as it seizes up
Speaker 2: arthritically and kneels upon broken joints to display its helpless
Speaker 2: incapacity to the world. That's pretty good the New York
Speaker 2: Times story. New York Times is out with a story
Speaker 2: that should already be familiar. The Sierra Club embraced social justice,
Speaker 2: then it tore itself apart, and he points, you know
Speaker 2: the drill from the headline alone. They're now a flaming wreck.
Speaker 2: They've lost sixty percent of their paying donors since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: And for precisely the reason that all observers watching wokeism
Speaker 2: progress through left coded institutions thought it would. It was
Speaker 2: devoured by the never ending financial and political demands of
Speaker 2: the progressive omni cause, which encouraged the formerly single minded
Speaker 2: conservationist society to become deeply embroiled in the progressive left's
Speaker 2: racial and socio sexual agenda part of its core mission.
Speaker 1: They let themselves get tied up in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah so, and this is so typical of the permanent
Speaker 2: omni cause. Social justice was folded into the Sierra Club's
Speaker 2: mission through its newer, younger leadership via the now standard
Speaker 2: series of semantic slights of hand. Environmental justice is racial justice,
Speaker 2: is transgender justice, is Palestinian justice. Hey, we're just trying
Speaker 2: to saved pine trees over here, the water clean. Well,
Speaker 2: then you've got to embrace transgender Palestinians. And the scattering
Speaker 2: of its focus has not only left the Sierra Club
Speaker 2: flat footed and broke, it's also rendered it indistinguishable from
Speaker 2: other everything bagel progressive organizations, which I thought was a
Speaker 2: good description the everything bagel, my favorite bagel, and the
Speaker 2: focus of the movie everything all at once, all the time,
Speaker 2: everything and oh yeah, yeah, my favorite move. Moment he
Speaker 2: talked about the New York Times piece, again illustrative of
Speaker 2: the natural progress of activist entriyism, came when a local
Speaker 2: Sierra Club member responded to a volunteer suggestion that the
Speaker 2: club lobby for more protection for wolves. We've got to
Speaker 2: protect the wolves, and the response from the leadership was
Speaker 2: that's fine, Delia, but what do wolves have to do
Speaker 2: with equity, justice and inclusion? Wow?
Speaker 1: What the Sierra freaking Club?
Speaker 2: Wow, that is something you're authoric when that happens. I
Speaker 2: love this so much. All right, final note, and this
Speaker 2: is this is worth remembering. I'd kind of let I'd
Speaker 2: space this off. I entered it years in, years and
Speaker 2: years ago. Jack, I know you know this. The sovietologist
Speaker 2: Robert Kung Quest what a name Dick Army wishes his
Speaker 2: name was Bob Khnquest. Anyway, let's see. Ye Oh. He
Speaker 2: once positive a series of laws of politics, the most
Speaker 2: famous of which remains his second. Any organization not explicitly
Speaker 2: right wing sooner or later becomes left wing. Our friend
Speaker 2: Tim Sandifer has quoted that on our show a number
Speaker 2: of times, and it's stuck in my head. It seems
Speaker 2: to be true. Unless your goal is to be right wing,
Speaker 2: you overtime become left wing. Yes, And you can see
Speaker 2: it all around. Once you become aware of that, you
Speaker 2: see it all the time. Yeah, agreed. I think it's
Speaker 2: mostly because left wing entities are much much easier to
Speaker 2: milk for profit. Than right wing entities, which tend to be,
Speaker 2: you know, all about self reliance and following rules or
Speaker 2: I've always would have just taken It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: humans are involved, and humans are emotional, and the left
Speaker 2: is an emotional thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it also it's mats of the iron
Speaker 2: law of bureaucracy, which is another great law to memorize
Speaker 2: that over time, every institution, and this is the short
Speaker 2: version of it, grows less to be about its actual
Speaker 2: purpose and more to be about protecting the institution or
Speaker 2: protecting the bureaucracy, to the point that you know, in
Speaker 2: the latter stages of a Department of Labor or something
Speaker 2: like that, nobody even knows what they're supposed to do
Speaker 2: except continue to exist, continued ad staff and keep their budget.
Speaker 2: And oh and I'm sorry. And my point being that
Speaker 2: that very orientation is very leftist. It's very you know,
Speaker 2: we've got to maintain the bulk of the bureaucracy. I've
Speaker 2: got a story about myself I want to tell later
Speaker 2: that will cause you to slap.
Speaker 1: Your head and wonder about me. I wonder about myself.
Speaker 1: It is a self reveal that is very, very embarrassing.
Speaker 1: You should wonder about yoursel else. It's called introspection, Jack,
Speaker 1: speaking of one of our other favorite sayings. If you
Speaker 1: don't know what introspection is, you need to take a long,
Speaker 1: hard look at yourself. Hey, this one isn't hard. This
Speaker 1: is a what is wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, so sorry to hear that. I've got that story
Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later. Look forward to getting
Speaker 1: into that.
Speaker 2: Oh. I realized what my personal hell would be. I
Speaker 2: actually said to my wife as we were walking the dog, sweetheart,
Speaker 2: and need to clean up my act and be a
Speaker 2: better person, because I just realized what Satan would damn
Speaker 2: me too, my personal hell, and it has to do
Speaker 2: with never ending leaf blowers. There would be three to
Speaker 2: four leaf blowers around me every moment of my god
Speaker 2: forsaken literally suffering in eighties, just constantly blowing and repige.
Speaker 2: If it were hell, though, it would have to be
Speaker 2: like seven point thirty on a Sunday morning, because that's
Speaker 2: what makes it worse. I hate them always, But the
Speaker 2: fact that this is a beautiful, pristine, quiet weekend morning.
Speaker 1: Right next door.
Speaker 2: If I ever gotten used to my suffering, you know
Speaker 2: what Satan would add someone trying to talk to me
Speaker 2: over the sound of it that I couldn't understand because
Speaker 2: it was so loud. So mixing that frustration or with
Speaker 2: the hellish din least blower. Okay, so we've got lots
Speaker 2: of get too. We've got mail bag on the way.
Speaker 2: I'll mention how the text are running on Epstein. I'm
Speaker 2: wondering if anybody in our audience is interested about it today.
Speaker 2: It's not scientific in any way, but I can tell
Speaker 2: you how the results have gone.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned in my.
Speaker 2: Searching for stuff to talk about on Twitter in various
Speaker 2: places and listening to podcasts the topic of back in
Speaker 2: the fifties, on one income, you could have a nice
Speaker 2: house you owned and garn and blah.
Speaker 1: Blah blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2: Now you can't. As to the whole affordability thing that
Speaker 2: I have. The elections all might be about for the
Speaker 2: foreseeable future for both parties want to talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit. We have in the past, but we
Speaker 2: need to talk about it more looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: So has anybody assembled here today been pressured into repeating
Speaker 2: something they didn't believe to be true, or sat in
Speaker 2: a classroom being browbeaten into believing the country was I
Speaker 2: don't know, for instance, founded on racism, or that men
Speaker 2: can declare themselves women and shamed into silence. You'll love
Speaker 2: our freedom loving quote of the day, Continuing on our
Speaker 2: series from John Stuart Mills on liberty society, canon does
Speaker 2: execute its own mandates, and if it issued its wrong
Speaker 2: mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all, in
Speaker 2: things which it ought not to meddle, it practices a
Speaker 2: social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression. Wow,
Speaker 2: there's something that is not well understood and very hard
Speaker 2: to control, impossible to control really? Oh yeah, yeah. Mill
Speaker 2: was a believer not only in freedom from government oppression,
Speaker 2: but also a tolerance of competing ideas obviously the marketplace
Speaker 2: of ideas in general. And he was trying to tell
Speaker 2: people in a very different time. Hey, keep an open mind.
Speaker 2: That's why every bit is true.
Speaker 1: Now, That's why I.
Speaker 2: Like conversations about the culture of free speech. When anybody
Speaker 2: throws it at you know, the you know, the First
Speaker 2: Amendment is specifically Congress blah blah blah. The culture of
Speaker 2: free speech is important, two different things. Yeah, I agree completely, mailbag.
Speaker 2: Speaking of exercising your rights drop is a note mail
Speaker 2: bag at Armstrong Ageeddy dot com Brian from Kansas City
Speaker 2: with a nice note guys our one of the show
Speaker 2: the other day. I have to say, poor Michaelangelo. The
Speaker 2: man's done with his Christmas shopping before Thanksgiving, and Jack
Speaker 2: asks like he just announced he's starting a TikTok Dan's career.
Speaker 2: The beating of Michaelangelo is completely inappropriate for declaring that
Speaker 2: the Christmas season has begun. Jack is the gold medal
Speaker 2: procrastinator here. If they're an Olympic of and for waiting
Speaker 2: until December twenty fourth to start shopping, he'd be the
Speaker 2: Simone Biles of last minute panic. Meanwhile, Mike Clientelow's over
Speaker 2: here with everything wrapped labeled in alphabetized. The guy probably
Speaker 2: has a spreadsheet of stocking stuffers. Instead of mocking him
Speaker 2: study his methods are just appoint him director of Holiday
Speaker 2: logistics for TEAMM and G. He's operating on a level
Speaker 2: the rest of us mortals can't comprehend. Can it be
Speaker 2: somewhere between waiting for the last minute and finishing mere
Speaker 2: Christmas shopping in the.
Speaker 1: Summer like Michael Einlode.
Speaker 2: Oh. The beating continues from the bidderl. Thanks for listening
Speaker 2: to us on FM and Kansas City. I wish we
Speaker 2: were on more FM stations. Yeah, Brian, don't make this
Speaker 2: the last time. You're right. That's great. And then we're
Speaker 2: going to feature one email in particular from Rob s Guys.
Speaker 2: He writes, the recent discussion on the show about the
Speaker 2: trend to younger Americans towards socialist thinking is really disturbing.
Speaker 2: I like Joe's analogy with grades. You know, everybody gets
Speaker 2: a be since most people can understand that immediately. Here's
Speaker 2: another argument. Often capitalists will ask a socialist to name
Speaker 2: one country where socialism has worked, and they'll cite Sweden,
Speaker 2: for instance, since there's little evidence there of the social
Speaker 2: tensions that are seen in other country cultures. Actually there
Speaker 2: are now, but more on that later. Okay, great, So
Speaker 2: what are the facts Sweden's meeting in the household income
Speaker 2: is thirty nine thousand dollars per year. The poverty threshold
Speaker 2: in the US for a four person household is thirty
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars a year, so half of Sweden is
Speaker 2: living just above the US poverty level. There's the question
Speaker 2: of buying power society to society, which can change those
Speaker 2: numbers a little, but the point still remains. I think
Speaker 2: Sweden's average household income is even less thirty three K year,
Speaker 2: just at the US poverty level. Compare that to the
Speaker 2: US with a median income of eighty thousand dollars an
Speaker 2: average income of one hundred and forty four K. So
Speaker 2: what does that mean Americans have a much higher standard
Speaker 2: of living than Swedes? Why in the global economy. The
Speaker 2: answer is simple. Americans are four times on average as
Speaker 2: productive as Swedes because capitalism motivates people to work harder
Speaker 2: and take bigger risks. It does because there are rewards
Speaker 2: and more subtle. In Sweden, the average income is less
Speaker 2: than the median. What that means is that the poor
Speaker 2: are more poor than the median because the rich are
Speaker 2: more rich than the median. Wow, that sucks. Isn't the
Speaker 2: whole point of socialism to make sure nobody gets left behind?
Speaker 2: Not only are people just barely above the US poverty threshold,
Speaker 2: but a lot of them are way below it. If
Speaker 2: I was in the US, if I was going to
Speaker 2: argue against that, and I'm not on the side that
Speaker 2: would really want to. But let's be John Stuart mill
Speaker 2: here and steal man the argument they regularly rank at
Speaker 2: the top in the world of life satisfaction being happy people.
Speaker 2: That has declined precipitously in the Nordic countries the Scandinavian
Speaker 2: countries as they let in way too much immigration and
Speaker 2: the homogeneity, nuity, gnuity of their societies, the fact that
Speaker 2: they are all pretty similar people, same culture, same religions
Speaker 2: which are generally atheism, etc. Has now changed and they
Speaker 2: are being torn apart doing non assimilating immigrants.
Speaker 1: PhD dissertation on that whole topic.
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, Yes, The only possible counter I could
Speaker 2: see for this is for a socialist to say money
Speaker 2: isn't everything well good in America. You're free to be
Speaker 2: poor and live like a Swede. Just make sure you
Speaker 2: act like one too, and live contentedly at the poverty
Speaker 2: level and quit complaining. Which fight fits in a little
Speaker 2: bit with the topic we need to get to on
Speaker 2: the hole. In the fifties, one guy could earn enough
Speaker 2: money to support his whole family in buy house and.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And then a Rob has makes his final fabulous argument, Joe,
Speaker 2: I know, Jack, I know your redneck background is struggling
Speaker 2: with owning an electric vehicle. Not super fast, but still.
Speaker 2: I have a solution. It's a hybrid smoke pressure cooker.
Speaker 2: You can install it on the better your truck with
Speaker 2: a stack vented to a fake tailpipe. When your social
Speaker 2: justice neighbors flip you off, pull up to them, throw
Speaker 2: the vent switch in the cab and coal roll their ass,
Speaker 2: just like you would add pack in Kansas.
Speaker 1: There you go, roll and coal.
Speaker 2: Cole on me the other day, guy in a great,
Speaker 2: big truck, I want to show me in my stupid
Speaker 2: cyber truck. Hey, you didn't take that, idiot. I need
Speaker 2: to put a sign in my window which is true.
Speaker 2: I also own a big giant diesel truck. I have both.
Speaker 2: I'm the only one in America who has both. I
Speaker 2: am making I like them both. I'm making no political statement.
Speaker 2: Find out how crazy to believe you drive a car
Speaker 2: with no politics in mind. Yet another concept that if
Speaker 2: you try to explain to so many fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't know what you were talking about. The politics
Speaker 2: around the car you drive. I know we have a car.
Speaker 2: We have a lot on the way. I hope you
Speaker 2: can stick around. Armstrong and Getty