Speaker 1: Look out. It's only a film is to be buried
Speaker 1: with rewind classic episode Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello you lot?
Speaker 1: How are Yeah? You're right? This is pretty Goldstein. So listen.
Speaker 1: I got to concentrate on filming. So there's not going
Speaker 1: to be new episodes for a few weeks. Nothing big.
Speaker 1: Don't panic, There'll there's something already. They're coming. There's new episodes.
Speaker 1: But for the next few weeks, I thought, instead of
Speaker 1: having nothing, why don't we relive some of the all
Speaker 1: time classic episodes. And we're going to start with the
Speaker 1: very very first episode that came out on the twelfth
Speaker 1: of July twenty eighteen. Oh, we were so young. It's
Speaker 1: me and James, a castor in my kitchen. Not all
Speaker 1: of the questions were there yet. There's no trouble Bone
Speaker 1: as yet. That wasn't until Nathaniel Metcalf. But you can
Speaker 1: see how far we've come. I had to listen back
Speaker 1: to it. It's a lovely time. I think you'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for bearing with me. I hope this
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Speaker 1: have a listen to the very first episode of Films
Speaker 1: to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to
Speaker 1: be Buried With. I am Brett Ghosty, and I am
Speaker 1: here with a very wonderful guest. His name is James Acaster.
Speaker 1: If you don't know him, you can watch four hours
Speaker 1: four hours of him being a comedian on Netflix on
Speaker 1: Channel Netflix. Yeah, four hours. Arrogant in a way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a bit arrogant, but I what's still for? I mean
Speaker 1: he's longer than Brake Art. Yeah, I mean basically, if
Speaker 1: you've not seen him yet, he's a sort of stand
Speaker 1: up that's so good. He makes stand ups want to
Speaker 1: stop doing stand up. So if you're not a stand up,
Speaker 1: watch it and you'll have a wonderful time. If you
Speaker 1: have a stand up, just forget it. Anyway, that's not true.
Speaker 1: Here he is lovely James Aacaster. Welcome to this show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brett, thanks for coming around my house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't been here very often, even though
Speaker 1: I'll count you as one of my friends. I've been here. Okay,
Speaker 1: second time could be a second time. Yeah, you're a
Speaker 1: secretive man. Don't invite a lot of people around. No,
Speaker 1: you don't. Doors stay locked. Yes, in this house. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Welcome to this show. Now you understand how
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, you have died. Yes, I'm sorry. How
Speaker 1: did you die? James probably fell in a hole in
Speaker 1: the street street hole. Oh, maybe in the beach beach
Speaker 1: hole because quicksand and actually quicksands probably more likely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always thought it would probably a quicksand or fallen
Speaker 1: off a building or something, both of the things that
Speaker 1: have always felt the most likely. Quicksands seems legit for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have been a company i'd write a routine about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're going down as you're singing. We play so well.
Speaker 1: You always thought what you're singing in quick sad and quick.
Speaker 1: It's definitely sand. It gets everywhere, it's coming in my lungs.
Speaker 1: Good routine. I'll do that same. You can't do it
Speaker 1: because you've died. How do you feel about death? Scared
Speaker 1: of it? Excited? Look forward? To it. No, I don't
Speaker 1: look forward to it, but I feel I'm too scared
Speaker 1: of it anymore. Used to be really scared of it
Speaker 1: and then thought about it a lot and feel like
Speaker 1: now he said, always focusing in on because it was
Speaker 1: focused on death, and it's like, oh, we won't have
Speaker 1: everything taken away from us. Yeah, and you don't really
Speaker 1: stop to think why have we even got it in
Speaker 1: the first place. And it's quite amazing to even habit.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think I'm owed any of this.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to habit and to be here now. So
Speaker 1: in many ways, your spiritual leader is Mike Skinner of
Speaker 1: the Streets. Yeah, he said, everything is just borrow just
Speaker 1: by That album has a lot of that, that kind
Speaker 1: of philosophy on it. Yeah, it's got someone they called
Speaker 1: Edge of a Cliff, which it's all about. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it tild you feel sad just to remember how unlikely
Speaker 1: it is that even here or the people that came before,
Speaker 1: all the people that came before, so that you exist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really really nice, really good sentiment. So I think
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff just makes you feel better. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you have those scared of death and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, so when you're in that quick
Speaker 1: sand slowly slowly, slowly down, you'll be at least remember
Speaker 1: the streets. Yeah, I was thinking that song. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're part of the routine singing streets songs. Well that's lovely.
Speaker 1: And do you believe in heave anyone? I don't think
Speaker 1: i'll do. I was raised Christian, and I believed in
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff for a while, and then I
Speaker 1: don't believe in the heaven and a hell for a while.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really even that idea wasn't really pushed on
Speaker 1: me by my parents. But like, I believe in those things,
Speaker 1: and I stopped believing in hell, and I just believe
Speaker 1: there's probably a nice place you go when you die.
Speaker 1: And then I guess I kind of stopped believing in that.
Speaker 1: But like, I'm agnostic. So if I died and there
Speaker 1: was an afterlife, you be annoyed. I wouldn't go what Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was always always a possibility, I guess, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I would imagine that if there is an afterlife, big
Speaker 1: if sure, then it's not gonna be like anything we
Speaker 1: human beings have been discussing. No one would have got
Speaker 1: it right, no, you think it would be more sort
Speaker 1: of beyond company. Yeah. Absolutely, We're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to be more that solarious. Yeah, sure like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like yeah, and what is it I'm more
Speaker 1: of a figure than maybe maybe just the oneness, yeah,
Speaker 1: rather than an actual walking I mean, obviously we'd all
Speaker 1: like it to be like this because it's nice and familiar,
Speaker 1: isn't it walking around? But this other things is great
Speaker 1: and don't there's no calories, they don't weight on. There's
Speaker 1: a line insularist in the book and the film which
Speaker 1: is these astronauts talking and they say, we think we're
Speaker 1: so big and brave and strong because we fled through
Speaker 1: space looking for answers, but all we're really looking for
Speaker 1: a mirror. That they lost all their mirrors on the
Speaker 1: flight because in the future their an mirrors. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to take the entire space programs just to
Speaker 1: find some mirror. You've got terrible staffing in face. You
Speaker 1: really need to hear what I look like any more? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in the premise of this show is that we're
Speaker 1: talking about ten films that means something from your life,
Speaker 1: And so my first question is, what is the first
Speaker 1: film that you remember seeing when you were alive, so
Speaker 1: that he films the sort before this one. But this
Speaker 1: is the first one I remember because it's my first
Speaker 1: cinema trip. So I remember being at the cinema. Had
Speaker 1: been exciting between Free and Fire. I guess about that.
Speaker 1: And who were you with my dad? Just you and
Speaker 1: your dad? Yeah, I went to see The Rescuers down Under. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first one, very underrated tea for I loved it.
Speaker 1: Rescuer Yeah, yeah, I really liked it. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: a good seat. I mean yeah, I don't actually remember
Speaker 1: too much of it now I remember going to see it.
Speaker 1: I'm a being in the cinema. I can remember, like
Speaker 1: what seat I was it view? No, no, the view
Speaker 1: from the seat. No. I don't know what the cinema
Speaker 1: was called. It was in Bambury, but then maybe it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was in ketterin Clewing, Kettering, and then we
Speaker 1: moved to Bambury for a year and then moved back
Speaker 1: to Kettering. But I think it's in the Bamboy Year,
Speaker 1: but maybe it wasn't. Why the bambour year may comes
Speaker 1: back to Christianity again, so my the church over Jesus
Speaker 1: was there in the Bamtory class. That's a clue. No,
Speaker 1: they were starting up another church in Bounty, but some
Speaker 1: of the people in the individual church to go over
Speaker 1: there for the transition, like weaning people into just yeah,
Speaker 1: get make sure everything could have not not getting people
Speaker 1: to go to the church, but just like like a
Speaker 1: frienchise like yeah, yeah, trained that lot. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was training that lot, but it was
Speaker 1: like just be friendly. I don't know, you just go over,
Speaker 1: go go to the church, go to that church for
Speaker 1: a bit. But it was a very like hippie kind
Speaker 1: of church that works. I don't like they were there
Speaker 1: and forcing any rules or anything. I guess you were
Speaker 1: just there for if you didn't here here if you
Speaker 1: need us, and then no one did so I went
Speaker 1: back to can Um. But yeah, they could probably tell
Speaker 1: you more information than I could as far as I
Speaker 1: was aware. Who just lived in boundary, right, let's get you.
Speaker 1: I would like to have you there and actually following
Speaker 1: him over on Twitter you do. Yeah, yeah, I recommend
Speaker 1: you for the David at Yeah, one of the most
Speaker 1: voice just when he wants on Twitter. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: would be great films. Yeah, so you went to see
Speaker 1: The Rescues Don't End It, and you remember the experienced fayment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember just being in the cinema and how special
Speaker 1: it felt and exciting, and for years after I was
Speaker 1: doing on a cinema loads because it was a treat.
Speaker 1: So like I remember going to see Your Finger, I
Speaker 1: remember going to see Cool Rowings The Lion King, like
Speaker 1: one day my mum, it was really like it's a
Speaker 1: really special cinema trip. When one day my mum just
Speaker 1: went Johnny goes through Stargate and that didn't happen usually.
Speaker 1: It was like all of us went a lot of
Speaker 1: the time in the Rescuers, even though the first time
Speaker 1: it was me on my own, but because my brothers
Speaker 1: just were too young. But like normally we all went
Speaker 1: as a family and we knew a few tasted bars.
Speaker 1: We're going to the cinema at the weekend. It was exciting.
Speaker 1: It was stargating. My mum just been like john goes
Speaker 1: see like right now, just want to go, just me
Speaker 1: and you. She was going to see it, and it's
Speaker 1: like I couldn't believe it was happening that we were
Speaker 1: going to go and just going to go to the cinema,
Speaker 1: how much wrest and James Baden Yeah, and carried out
Speaker 1: it's so good. And also that was during the phase
Speaker 1: where I went through where every time I saw a film,
Speaker 1: I would tell people the whole plot. When I got home,
Speaker 1: I'd have to tell them from the start and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't miss anything out home. My mum having to tell
Speaker 1: me to stop passing through Independence Day, I got to
Speaker 1: trying to tell her and a friend to the friend
Speaker 1: over and I was just telling them the whole film.
Speaker 1: And when I got to the bit where all the
Speaker 1: people on top of the building welcoming the aliens and
Speaker 1: the spaceship comes over and it opens up, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I opens up and then whatever the ladies says, it's
Speaker 1: so pretty. And then my mom was like, James, how
Speaker 1: much does this film is? Because like you can't, you
Speaker 1: can't tell us the whole film, Like, fine, under a minute,
Speaker 1: tell me the entire plot of the Rescues down. Some
Speaker 1: mice go to rescue someone in Australia and they ride
Speaker 1: on the back of an albatross, I think, and that
Speaker 1: is all I can remember that. Yeah, but like they
Speaker 1: went back and watched The Rescuers, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what happened there, but like I liked that, I
Speaker 1: remember that one, the Rescuers Final Those West, but also
Speaker 1: an American Tale and the Lamb Before Time films being
Speaker 1: all around that point. I was watching that kind of
Speaker 1: film a lot, and they were all quite sad, sad
Speaker 1: cartoons about being lost. Yeah, American Tale is unbelievably treaded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's as sad as bucking Dumbo's mum swinging Dumbo Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was so it's very kind of
Speaker 1: I think, also quite something like Bambi or Dumbo. It's sad,
Speaker 1: but like still quite happy kids films. I definitely like
Speaker 1: American Tale and Land Before Time just very sad, like
Speaker 1: they're so just kids being lost walking around. And that's
Speaker 1: what I thought most cartoons were like at one point,
Speaker 1: because that's mainly what I was watching. Did you relate
Speaker 1: to that we like a little lost I feel like
Speaker 1: a little lost dinosaur. I felt quite like. I definitely
Speaker 1: felt scared of being a lofer. I've always been more
Speaker 1: scared of stuff that's never happened to me, right, so
Speaker 1: I definitely scared watching those films of Oh that might
Speaker 1: I hope that never happens to me. I hope I
Speaker 1: never have I lost dinosaurs. I hope I'll never liked
Speaker 1: you know, say, but what I liked about it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which could happen, that's still open. But like what I
Speaker 1: like about them before time and I think American Teller,
Speaker 1: I can't remember that before time was great because they
Speaker 1: kept on meeting more dinosaurs who were lost. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: gang got bigger, and I liked that. I liked all
Speaker 1: the different characters and they're different things, and how they
Speaker 1: were all together in this group and lost together. I
Speaker 1: quite liked the idea with that. So in a way
Speaker 1: I was scared of it. But there's another part of
Speaker 1: me that was, like I would like to be and
Speaker 1: this lost kind of gang. I think it's a metaphor
Speaker 1: for the comedy community. Yeah, a little lost gangs that
Speaker 1: found each other. Yeah, making their way towards quick step.
Speaker 1: That's perfectly fair. Ye, A bunch of odd balls have
Speaker 1: all got lost, just drifted around, and then you will
Speaker 1: get drawn to this thing and this tuba starts singing like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the open mic circuit, especially when when you're not from
Speaker 1: mic circuit, it's a rogues gallery of you're all just
Speaker 1: no matter what, there's no cool people on the open
Speaker 1: mic circuit. Even once you think that, because you know,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you started taking yourself to pubs most
Speaker 1: nights of the week, go into a little room where
Speaker 1: like about five strangers are sitting down to watch you,
Speaker 1: and getting up in front of them and doing something
Speaker 1: you're no good at yet, yeah, and kind of just
Speaker 1: taking a hit tak taking the hit each night, not
Speaker 1: knowing if it's gonna be good or not being really
Speaker 1: nervous going up there. Sometimes it works, some it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't. It feels brutal, and then like just
Speaker 1: going high. You know, you don't do it. Unless I
Speaker 1: was twenty three, I had tried to be in bands
Speaker 1: that they had all failed. I didn't have any qualification,
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do, and I've just started doing this,
Speaker 1: and definitely even though it was like a fun adventure,
Speaker 1: I was really like, I don't know what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, and meet people like my early
Speaker 1: friends in comedy, like Nick Helm Josh. Nick had been
Speaker 1: writing players and stuff and got frustrated trying to get
Speaker 1: up a director and trying to get other people to
Speaker 1: care about the players. Started doing comedy in his own
Speaker 1: Josh had been trying to write and do comedy writing
Speaker 1: and no one wanted any of the stuff, and started
Speaker 1: doing comedy. There was stand up and like you know,
Speaker 1: it was all a bunch of that kind of I've
Speaker 1: been acting in writing players and in fact I was
Speaker 1: thinking I took a play to Edinburgh that like before,
Speaker 1: I did stand up with a play and it was
Speaker 1: like real my soul in a play, real heart and
Speaker 1: sell in a play. And the first review we got
Speaker 1: was a one star review that said the plot of
Speaker 1: the player and then said who cares? Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: the film that scared you the most in your whole life?
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be when your kids. It wasn't when
Speaker 1: I was. When I was a kid, of we watched
Speaker 1: scary films. When I was fourteen fifteen, I watched Scream
Speaker 1: two and I didn't sleep for two weeks. And that's
Speaker 1: not an exaggeration. Yeah, yeah, I literally could not sleep
Speaker 1: because I was terrified. And the reason why I was
Speaker 1: so terrified was, well, well, I've never seen a film
Speaker 1: that was that violent before. Yeah, but also I've seen
Speaker 1: like murder mysteries and stuff like that on TV, and
Speaker 1: scary films that make you jump a little bit, but
Speaker 1: there was always a really clear motive. At the end.
Speaker 1: You'd always find out who the killer was, who the
Speaker 1: murderer was, and you go, oh, that makes sense, and
Speaker 1: that's why they did it. So that scream too. It's
Speaker 1: just like they're just psychopaths and they kill everyone. It's
Speaker 1: Timothy other thing, isn't it from Deadwood's the killer in
Speaker 1: spin Teo spoil? Sorry? Yeah, so I don't really know
Speaker 1: his name, right, but like there's two killers in the
Speaker 1: skin two. One of them has kind of a motive
Speaker 1: that you kind of understand, and one of them it's
Speaker 1: just a psycho wants to kill people and that's all
Speaker 1: it is. And so when I realized, oh, it's not
Speaker 1: always the motive. It's not like you have to have
Speaker 1: wronged someone. Also that there could just be someone who
Speaker 1: just wants to kill people, and that hadn't entered my
Speaker 1: head until that point. And then I was like, anyone
Speaker 1: for no reason could just kill me. And every time
Speaker 1: I went to go to sleep, I'll be like they
Speaker 1: could also, ye work pointing out I watched it my
Speaker 1: friend Matthew's house. Well I'm still friends with him now,
Speaker 1: but he is the kind of guy who would do that.
Speaker 1: But like he loved Scream the whole franchise. He absolutely
Speaker 1: loved it. His bedroom was a shrined to it, and
Speaker 1: I'm set. I was staying over that night, so we
Speaker 1: watched Scream too. I was really scared. And then I
Speaker 1: was sleeping in the bed that literally above it had
Speaker 1: the costume that the killer wears hanging from the seilings,
Speaker 1: so he had it hanging from the scene, so it
Speaker 1: looked like they were looming, like the Killer was looming
Speaker 1: over you. Yeah, above Hilo in bed. So I was
Speaker 1: thinking in that bed that night, So like I literally
Speaker 1: had to sleep underneath the killer from the film I've
Speaker 1: just seen and also in screen, Yeah, it's not unlikely
Speaker 1: for that to be one of the scenes where like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just a little costume from about the killer and
Speaker 1: we've got hanging in the ceiling and then that is
Speaker 1: the killer actually me and then they stab you in
Speaker 1: the night. Um. So like as that was the first
Speaker 1: night I saw it was hanging over me, and then
Speaker 1: everything I tried to go because there's always horrible thoughts
Speaker 1: of like all the different murders that happened in the film,
Speaker 1: and like all the people that this beginning is one
Speaker 1: of the great I think it's one of the great
Speaker 1: openings to a film screen too, genuinely the cinema horror, Yeah,
Speaker 1: brilliant scary secrets. Yeah. Also with that as well, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like no one will help you. Yeah, and they all
Speaker 1: thinks it's part of this show. Yeah. Yeah, So that
Speaker 1: there was that. I was just runnering over all the
Speaker 1: they're going, okay, so why did those two everyone, and
Speaker 1: just like trying to go over it and trying to
Speaker 1: work it out and going. But she was acting so
Speaker 1: normal for the whole film. A lady was actually just
Speaker 1: really normal because she was murdering these kids, and like
Speaker 1: it was I just couldn't get I thought I was
Speaker 1: literally was not sleeping, and I don't know how I
Speaker 1: eventually got out of it. I was managing. I probably
Speaker 1: watched a really happy film and snap myself out of it,
Speaker 1: but like I don't I couldn't tell any of my
Speaker 1: friends have seen Screen One. I've never revisited, but I
Speaker 1: watched it recently. I think I've watched all of them, okay,
Speaker 1: and I've watched the Screen TV series on Netflix, which
Speaker 1: most people would tell you is a part of ship
Speaker 1: and what would you say, I think it is but deliberately,
Speaker 1: but deliberately, but because the films are making fun of
Speaker 1: horror films, which I didn't realize at the time I
Speaker 1: was watching it. I thought it was a genuine horror film.
Speaker 1: But like, the films are kind of making fun of
Speaker 1: horror films and stuff like that, and then deliberately deliberately
Speaker 1: have bits that are badly acted and things like and
Speaker 1: that's what the TV series have bits that deliberately honey
Speaker 1: and like over the top in bits that are a
Speaker 1: bit parody, stuff like that, but like it stays really
Speaker 1: true to the films. Anyone who gets annoyed with the
Speaker 1: TV series, you know, if you if you like the films, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's what the TV series. It's not exactly what the
Speaker 1: TV of what the film did is doing it to
Speaker 1: the nth degree because it's also making fun of the film,
Speaker 1: so it's just still stealing that on top of it.
Speaker 1: But I quite enjoy It's just like three easy to watch.
Speaker 1: You stay easier. I mean, when you were fourteen, you
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep. Yeah, I couldn't sleep too, So now is
Speaker 1: it like a little I could watch that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Now a brave boy. Now. Yeah, For a while, it
Speaker 1: was just like films like that. The other filment scared
Speaker 1: me a lot was Hannibal because that was the first
Speaker 1: film I've seen wherein a brain, Yes, someminate a brain,
Speaker 1: but also like a lot of the stuff in Hannibal
Speaker 1: that's really awful. You don't see it happen. That's so
Speaker 1: there's the stuff that you had to imagine, Like because
Speaker 1: with that scene, for example, all the stuff in between,
Speaker 1: you go, wow, is the drugs him? And then what
Speaker 1: is it? Just got him saying now it's just talking
Speaker 1: to him. He's kinds fucking head open and it's like
Speaker 1: feeling his own brain. That that bit in particular was
Speaker 1: just like I couldn't stop thinking about it how horrible
Speaker 1: it was, because I think it's all like pre the
Speaker 1: whole accepting death thing, okay, because there's suddenly being reduced
Speaker 1: to that. So it's like, if that was me and
Speaker 1: that happens to if someone did that to me, is
Speaker 1: that all I am? I'm just a piece of meat
Speaker 1: that can be manipulated. And then suddenly if I'm jumped
Speaker 1: up and nothing for that, I'm that stupid that I
Speaker 1: just eat my own brain, and I'll say shitty things
Speaker 1: to the people at the dinner table, and I won't
Speaker 1: realize when he throws the tea towel on his head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the worst for me because he treats him like
Speaker 1: he's nothing. At that point, he's just there with his
Speaker 1: brain exposed, jeweling but still alive. And Hannibals wheeled him
Speaker 1: into the kitchen and he just wipes his hands on
Speaker 1: the tea towel and just throws it on his head
Speaker 1: like it's a it's a chair, it's just a stand,
Speaker 1: and it just covers his face and it's on his brain.
Speaker 1: And you're like, that's all I am, just a brain
Speaker 1: in a bit of meat. I'm nothing. So it's that
Speaker 1: and that scared me. How one's works with me. And
Speaker 1: old man whose job in the I don't remember what time.
Speaker 1: He worked for his studio in Hollywood, and his job
Speaker 1: was to come up they made lads and lads of
Speaker 1: B movie horror films and his literally his job was
Speaker 1: to come up with deaths, ways of like cool death,
Speaker 1: scay death. And he said his favorite one he came
Speaker 1: up with was they put a guy to sleep, they
Speaker 1: cut open the top of his skulls with his brains expose.
Speaker 1: They wheeled him in front of a mirror, and then
Speaker 1: they wake him up. And when he wakes up, he
Speaker 1: sees himself and he goes ah and puts his hands
Speaker 1: to his head. He shot and crushes his own brain,
Speaker 1: put his fingers through his brain. That was his best
Speaker 1: How don't I think of that? Han't that? That's your job? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Think about stuff. I just get worried about myself. He
Speaker 1: was a lovely man, family man. What is the film
Speaker 1: that made you cry the most? Pride? I love Bride. Yeah,
Speaker 1: loved that film. Love it. One of my favorite films
Speaker 1: of recent years. Love it. And I saw that more
Speaker 1: than say, saving mister Banks, saving mister Banks. But like
Speaker 1: I stuff that makes me feel I guess happy rather
Speaker 1: than sad. I don't know, who don't know? You might
Speaker 1: not know playing there's a wonderful film about the miners
Speaker 1: in Wales ending forces with the gay community. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: the gage community basically decided to support the miners because
Speaker 1: the miners because basically there's a scene at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the film where they know they're saying, we haven't
Speaker 1: been hassled for ages and we normally get those a
Speaker 1: ship from the police all the time, and why is
Speaker 1: that not happening now? And it's because they're hassing somebody
Speaker 1: else that has in the miners now, and so we
Speaker 1: can either just go great, yeah, or we can get
Speaker 1: behind them and support them even though they didn't support us,
Speaker 1: and them supported us, and that alone for a little question. Boy,
Speaker 1: you ago, I was so nice and so so first
Speaker 1: I watch us in the cinema. I don't recrying the cinema,
Speaker 1: so I kind of like, was fine, but I loved it,
Speaker 1: and so I bought the DVD, which I don't really
Speaker 1: do any of these days by this, but the DVD
Speaker 1: and I watched it on my own one night, and
Speaker 1: I honestly think I cried for the whole film. And
Speaker 1: at the end, the back of my head, the head
Speaker 1: muscles hurt because I've been crying like it been. It's
Speaker 1: been like my whole trying to produce more teams. It
Speaker 1: will been wrinkled, and it was tense for the whole film,
Speaker 1: and it genuinely hurt, and I was trying not to
Speaker 1: cry because it was like that was hurting so much,
Speaker 1: and it was there's so many scenes in it. There
Speaker 1: seems that most films were saved just to the end,
Speaker 1: and it's every scene price, so every scene in it
Speaker 1: is potentially the end of a film where they try
Speaker 1: to make you cry, and just all the way through.
Speaker 1: My all time favorite show that I saw it at
Speaker 1: the on Stage Yes House, the musical My dad got
Speaker 1: his tickets from boxing day and I thought, the fuck
Speaker 1: is this ship? Ship? Yeah? And I cried all the way.
Speaker 1: He's the most beautiful thing I want to see anything.
Speaker 1: Story is so beautifully done, and it's directed by Matthew Walkers.
Speaker 1: And when they still Pride, I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the most joyful, beautiful film I ever seen. And then
Speaker 1: I saw at the end directed by Matthew Walkers. Of
Speaker 1: course it is. I don't know that I do that
Speaker 1: about that musical. Yeah, yeah, it's just I mean, the
Speaker 1: cast is amazing, the story is really weirdly. The only
Speaker 1: bit that doesn't make me cry is the bit where
Speaker 1: they really try and make you cry. So there's it's
Speaker 1: one bit where everyone starts singing, yeah, this village hall
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what's just happened, but something bad
Speaker 1: has just happened, Like you know, they've basically been told
Speaker 1: they're not going to get what they want or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. And a lady gets up and starts singing
Speaker 1: and then singing together, and that's the only bit that
Speaker 1: doesn't make me cry, even I'm sure that most people
Speaker 1: cry that bit, But for some reasons, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: trying to make me forget about it. I saw this coming,
Speaker 1: but where's everything else? It's just like you're watching yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know, people like coming together, supporting each other,
Speaker 1: and people like it coming over, people coming out, people
Speaker 1: realizing they've got aids. Like there's so much like Dunin
Speaker 1: West doesn't amazing dancing it. And I remember thinking as
Speaker 1: an actor, if I if I got the part and
Speaker 1: I was being the scription it says, by the way,
Speaker 1: you have to do a massive dance in front of
Speaker 1: a crowd of people, I'd been like shit, and he
Speaker 1: really goes really it does, unlike that Billy Brand song
Speaker 1: at the end knows I don't know. This is what
Speaker 1: I found about Privacy. It's such for a film that's
Speaker 1: you know, it's it could be a heavy subject. It's
Speaker 1: so joyful and it's so full of love and wonder.
Speaker 1: But then the film ends and then it shows up
Speaker 1: like titles of Where the People Are Now kind of titles,
Speaker 1: and all the times are so depressive that as sad
Speaker 1: as one of them is very sad, but like it,
Speaker 1: like you ended that film before it come, Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: they do deal with Also there's plenty of sad stuff
Speaker 1: in the film, but like the fact that they make
Speaker 1: the main message about supporting each other and supporting your
Speaker 1: neighbors and like not that's the whole kind of thing
Speaker 1: about again not leaving people high and joy this because
Speaker 1: they're not fighting the same course as you or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, like you know, it's because they've got a
Speaker 1: different battle and it's not your battle. Actually just like
Speaker 1: still going, no, we get we've got the same oppressors
Speaker 1: or whatever. So like it. It was great and Paddy
Speaker 1: Constantine's amazing in it. The storms's amaze him. Bill Nai
Speaker 1: like it's sandwiches. Well that scene, yes, when when he's
Speaker 1: making this, that's one of the many scenes that makes
Speaker 1: you try when that is so well done. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: too many. It's a scene after seen that this destroys
Speaker 1: me and I was absolute wreck by the time it
Speaker 1: was taking time. Do you like, I don't mean this
Speaker 1: sort of weirdly do you like crying, Well, you like
Speaker 1: this is I didn't cry for years. So my I
Speaker 1: cried when I was up seventeen, my cats died and
Speaker 1: I cried, and I didn't cry again until Pride, well
Speaker 1: not far off, like maybe until I was thirty. Like,
Speaker 1: I just didn't cry. I couldn't cry. I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to necessarily, but like I was, like, I just don't.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing. I just don't cry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then that was it, And then I found that
Speaker 1: way until I was saying this debate right, and I'm
Speaker 1: doing twenty years. Yeah, you seem like a man of principle.
Speaker 1: And so the next person to have you is what
Speaker 1: is the film that you love and ashamedly? Yeah? But
Speaker 1: this is bad. It is certainly critically reviled. People say
Speaker 1: this film is bad, but you're like, f few, this
Speaker 1: film is amazing. Final Destination five lovely choice? Is that
Speaker 1: the rather place to wear? No, it's not the Rother
Speaker 1: it's the final one. It's the Final five. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: it was. It was freely D three D. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a film? Talk to me. I love all the
Speaker 1: Final Destination films, and what I love about them is
Speaker 1: that it's essentially the same comedy sketch over and over again,
Speaker 1: and you know what the punch line is going to
Speaker 1: be every time. So this guy here's a bunch of
Speaker 1: sketches and at the end they're going to die. So
Speaker 1: the end, the main the main character in the sketch
Speaker 1: is going to die and you know that, and the
Speaker 1: lasts are all the different ways that they could possibly die,
Speaker 1: and then at the end we kill them in the
Speaker 1: way that you don't suspect. It was funny. So it's
Speaker 1: like the first show, it's just catchphase comedy. You know.
Speaker 1: What it depends on is this is how are they
Speaker 1: going to get somehow? Trying to reinvent it every single time,
Speaker 1: and I think it's brilliant. And by the time they
Speaker 1: get to Final Destination five, they fully know that's all
Speaker 1: this is, so they don't really bother with the plot.
Speaker 1: What's the big the big thing the premonition death at
Speaker 1: the beginning? And is it the driving with the love
Speaker 1: on the way? No, So that's that's like a that's
Speaker 1: another one that's like quite an early one. Okay, it is.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's because now I'm worried that I'm
Speaker 1: getting them mixed up. I'm pretty sure I'm not. It's
Speaker 1: a bridge collapses and they're all on this busy and
Speaker 1: let's somehow survive it. So yes, small for them, that's
Speaker 1: quite a small. It's pretty huge bridge collapsing. It is
Speaker 1: a big and it's not veryone's dying. It's really fun
Speaker 1: like someone gets like boiling tar poured on them. Way,
Speaker 1: I kind of want you to spoil this. They don't
Speaker 1: listen if you downpil But if it's the final, final,
Speaker 1: final destination? Do they cure death? How do they stop it?
Speaker 1: How is it the final one? They do not cure death.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. And I know what you're going
Speaker 1: to say when I tell you this, and I did
Speaker 1: not do this deliberately, but it's not the final one.
Speaker 1: It reveals it happened before the first one, and it
Speaker 1: was the first. It triggers the whole thing. That's what's
Speaker 1: quite that's cool. What's quite great about it is that
Speaker 1: even the people who hate it takes we whould go.
Speaker 1: It's a really good twist because you don't realize until
Speaker 1: the end, Oh they've not been using modern technology. This
Speaker 1: was set before that, But you don't realize it for
Speaker 1: the whole film. He was like, you don't real if
Speaker 1: any of that, and then you realize that this was
Speaker 1: before the first one. That's what they did. My favorite
Speaker 1: sort of not loved for a series is Paranormal Activity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Paranormal Activity, the Marked ones where they really went
Speaker 1: off piece at the end is he sort of has
Speaker 1: accidentally become a ghost kind of thing, like he's going
Speaker 1: through a dimension where he can't be seen, and he
Speaker 1: walks through a door into the first paranormal activity and
Speaker 1: the big scary noises in the house at him just
Speaker 1: walking around. Nice. Great, it's great, it's great, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: But like also I saw it on the so my
Speaker 1: first ever solo show at HIV, which any comic who's
Speaker 1: done at Edinburgh will tell you that the debut show,
Speaker 1: if you're not really prepared for Hunson to make you feel,
Speaker 1: it makes you feel more anxious than you thought you would,
Speaker 1: more stressed, your ego takes a real beat in. You
Speaker 1: have a lot of doubt and it's a quite a
Speaker 1: stressful month. And at the end of the month I
Speaker 1: booked a train back a little bit too late, so
Speaker 1: maybe like I had a whole day in Edinburgh and
Speaker 1: everyone else had gone home apart from me, Tom about
Speaker 1: from Tile and I think it was Lee and Paul
Speaker 1: from Late Night Gim Fight, but I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: any of the other maybe Matt was there as well.
Speaker 1: But we all decided we were going to go and
Speaker 1: see Final Destination five at the cinema, just go see
Speaker 1: that we've got And we went there and watching after
Speaker 1: a month of being at a festival where we were
Speaker 1: all obsessed over making these perfect shows that will impress
Speaker 1: the critics and impress the awards panel and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and then you go and see a
Speaker 1: film that's literally gone, we don't care, we don't care
Speaker 1: about any of you say about this. We know this
Speaker 1: is fun. We're just gonna have a load of fun
Speaker 1: with this film. And we're now putting it in three
Speaker 1: D so that you can really have also a three
Speaker 1: D film where I was playing it was in three D,
Speaker 1: where it's I'm just sitting there going, oh yeah, they've
Speaker 1: added a lot of depth to it, so it actually
Speaker 1: things seem further away. Stick in your face. I wanted
Speaker 1: my face at the three D films a bit in
Speaker 1: my face. I want to say, you know, in the
Speaker 1: Bridge Fall, apart and they all did everything is you know,
Speaker 1: exploding out any face? Yeah, it was away from my face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well one of them literally have already sat at the back.
Speaker 1: All these metal rods slide off of a lorry and
Speaker 1: just go through someone and they all come right at you.
Speaker 1: It's great. So like it was, it was such a
Speaker 1: good film. And what to go? Oh yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: when I'm in the audience, I just want to enjoy
Speaker 1: myself and have fun. And a second enemy a lot
Speaker 1: of you just pointing into your face, the point in
Speaker 1: the face and killing them all. Yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: my favorite. Say you did? Okay? The next thing I
Speaker 1: wouldn't know then, is what is the film that has
Speaker 1: the most meaning to you? Not because you love the
Speaker 1: film per se, but because of the circumstances in which
Speaker 1: you saw it, for examples, first date with Sammy Weeks
Speaker 1: and in love with them or whatever. What's the film
Speaker 1: the experience of what's net film that is your So
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite films as well. So
Speaker 1: it's boy, which is a film by Tiger Oh okay,
Speaker 1: who people will know from you did four n but
Speaker 1: you also did what we saw doing the shadows and
Speaker 1: the wonderful the wild of people, but like they were
Speaker 1: humping the wilder people, which is great. Um and eagle
Speaker 1: versus sharps. His first film, Boy was the second one,
Speaker 1: but based on like a short film we've done before.
Speaker 1: Boy is one of my favorite films ever. And I
Speaker 1: watched it. It It was the first time I went to
Speaker 1: New Zealand, and I am in love with that country.
Speaker 1: And some of that is probably because my ex girlfriend
Speaker 1: is from there and so like I spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time there. But what's not but what's nice is
Speaker 1: that I know that, you know, my relationship with that
Speaker 1: country immersed with her two different things, and you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and I for a while I
Speaker 1: thought New Zealand. I thought it's just connected to get
Speaker 1: it's just because have heard that I like it so much.
Speaker 1: And then like I went there after the breakup and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, I just love which is
Speaker 1: lovely as well to go back. I love everything about
Speaker 1: this country is so great. And I was really lucky
Speaker 1: to go out with her and have it that she
Speaker 1: because she was really proud of where she came from.
Speaker 1: And I got to spend a lot more time, like
Speaker 1: you know, immersed in that when I was over there
Speaker 1: with her and meeting her family and and like, there's
Speaker 1: so much in that film. I just actually, yeah, I
Speaker 1: really love it because the first time I saw it
Speaker 1: was when sometimes when I went to New Zealand, I
Speaker 1: just had this is a different breakup betimes. I'm always
Speaker 1: getting I always having breakups, but I just had a
Speaker 1: breakup and I went to Yeah. Yeah, So I went
Speaker 1: to New Zealand like a week after having a breakup.
Speaker 1: I've never been before. I was going for the comedy Festival,
Speaker 1: and it was just like exactly what I needed. I
Speaker 1: was very lucky something. You know, there's loads of times
Speaker 1: when you're really lucky to have this job, and that
Speaker 1: was one of the times of like how fortunate that
Speaker 1: this is my job and that I get to just
Speaker 1: go on a plane. Yeah. And I went there and
Speaker 1: I just had this amazing time discovering this new plays.
Speaker 1: It felt really good. And then someone organized someone called
Speaker 1: Hide I love them. She sorted out she knew most
Speaker 1: of the hand seen Boy. She was like, we're going
Speaker 1: to watch it this afternoon at the Classic, which is
Speaker 1: a venue, and she'd like sorted out, look a big TV,
Speaker 1: got out and bought Boy and she's like, we want
Speaker 1: to watch it at this time, and come along, you
Speaker 1: want to watch it, and so I went along and
Speaker 1: it was unlike any film I've seen before. Really, it
Speaker 1: was the beautiful film that makes you care about all
Speaker 1: of the characters but never really puts them in too
Speaker 1: much danger, and yet you still feel worried for them.
Speaker 1: The whole thing doesn't really like it's a huge peril,
Speaker 1: but it's just quite sad anyway. The certain taxes are
Speaker 1: quite sad, and so you just with them every step
Speaker 1: of the way. And it's a very it's a very
Speaker 1: funny film in parts as well, but like it's really
Speaker 1: one of the kind. And that was like the first
Speaker 1: time I saw it, it made me feel really I've
Speaker 1: already kind of like growing to love New Zealand anyway,
Speaker 1: and that really locked it in of like because it's
Speaker 1: such a New Zealand film, but not in a way
Speaker 1: that there were some films that have been made presumtive,
Speaker 1: but the one that with Jake the Mussin that everyone
Speaker 1: talks about, it's just like the first what's it called,
Speaker 1: where's a horrible film about domestic violence? Oh? Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And people associate those kind of gritty films of New Zealand.
Speaker 1: A lot of the time it has made films that
Speaker 1: are quite gritty and horrible, and I often don't really
Speaker 1: celebrate the country much where the type of films I
Speaker 1: feel really celebrate New Zealand and what's great about it.
Speaker 1: And even though Pride is the film that I try
Speaker 1: out the most, Boy is getting there and Boys the
Speaker 1: fastest I cried at a film. Boy. I cry at
Speaker 1: the first line immediate, but the fact it opens and
Speaker 1: it's it's a close up of boy, right, so like
Speaker 1: it's just his face, Yeah, his face fills the screen
Speaker 1: and it says cure, And then I cry immediately because
Speaker 1: it's such a The opening is just like he's smiling
Speaker 1: and he's saying something that I've only heard people saying
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. They probably say it other places, but
Speaker 1: like it's so such a an opening of just then
Speaker 1: been proud of New Zealand immediately, which especially because there's
Speaker 1: a bit of a culture New Zealand from you've got
Speaker 1: to be humble and not crouding yourself and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and so I don't remember not crouding yourself, but not
Speaker 1: big heading and not arrogant, but that opening is just
Speaker 1: so proud of their country and I've been there and
Speaker 1: it just immediately makes me cry straight away and I
Speaker 1: love I love it, And yeah, that that first viewing
Speaker 1: was just a very special thing. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: so and it wasn't help you heal in your break up.
Speaker 1: It's probably how many Hell yeah, both breakups that I mentioned,
Speaker 1: so like, yeah, that first one definitely because it was
Speaker 1: like I just needed to get away, go somewhere else,
Speaker 1: and then realized there's this amazing place, all of amazing people,
Speaker 1: and like I'm just having that experience was great. And
Speaker 1: then the other relationship where yeah, she was told New
Speaker 1: Zealand because I didn't have any hard feelings towards her.
Speaker 1: She's brilliant, And then a film like that kind of
Speaker 1: just reminds me. But yeah, she's brilliant, and that that
Speaker 1: feels good. When I was when my first girlfriend, I
Speaker 1: was worth the three years and when she broke up
Speaker 1: with me. The day she broke up with me, we
Speaker 1: had tickets to a preview of Reccing for a Dream
Speaker 1: and because we'd really liked the trainer and we'd like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I she broke she broke up with me, and
Speaker 1: I was in my room sort of crying, and I
Speaker 1: was sad, and then I thought, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: miss out on this, Like I could stay here and
Speaker 1: cry and got a ticket to this film, and so
Speaker 1: I went to see Take What Right Chea. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's not me. No, I thought, well, I think Reconfendrea's
Speaker 1: got a happy ending. But no, that's theory when the
Speaker 1: Sun said famously, when because I feel like at the
Speaker 1: end of reckoning of your dream, everyone's life's gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Everyone's lives canna get better. Where it ends, it's like
Speaker 1: because it can't get anywhere because it cry it ends,
Speaker 1: and you go, fuck you hear what happened? Let yeah,
Speaker 1: recomend dream Days. He's clean now, it's gonna be right.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get our business. He's to be fine. She's
Speaker 1: in a mad coble where she's mad and she's happy
Speaker 1: and she's on TV. It's gonna be fine, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna go and get him and they're gonna be having
Speaker 1: being back to chemist the ending? How you have got
Speaker 1: that from that? Speaking of sexy films, what what's it?
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I know you're a very you're very
Speaker 1: sexual animal. What's the what's the film you think is
Speaker 1: the sexiest? What's the film gave me the most trouble
Speaker 1: in your pants? Yeah, so it's not. That's not my
Speaker 1: think is the sexiest. Now, I don't know what film
Speaker 1: that would even be. I don't really even watch films.
Speaker 1: A lot of things so sexy, not since The Rescue
Speaker 1: nort But the only thing I've watched and I've been like,
Speaker 1: this is so sexy American Pie because you love because
Speaker 1: of how old I was, I was thirteen. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: except there's sort of sexy in the main pay is
Speaker 1: like revenge porn, assault, isn't it what happens? They set
Speaker 1: up cameras and make her Yeah thirteen, I'm not intellectual nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, there's boobs in the film,
Speaker 1: like there was never that. I've never seen that before
Speaker 1: in the film. No, and she's beauty sexually means, so
Speaker 1: there was that. That's really there's the hot mum. The
Speaker 1: guy gets a sleeper. That's really sexy. Oh genuinely in
Speaker 1: that film, I was like I would like to have sex.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have sex with everyone right now.
Speaker 1: This film is maybe the sex is the best thing ever.
Speaker 1: The first time probably thirteen Well, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I remember I've spoke about this on other podcasts before,
Speaker 1: but my my my awakening was watching a cartoon. I
Speaker 1: think it was a hand of barbela cartoon about two
Speaker 1: eggs and a boy are going a girl like walking
Speaker 1: around the kitchen and the boy and fancied the girl.
Speaker 1: They're gonna both quite innocent looking little eggs, and the
Speaker 1: girl falls into a pot of boiling water. But then
Speaker 1: she comes out and she's really sexy, like Sandy d
Speaker 1: at the end of yeah, so yeah something, she's like
Speaker 1: that she's she's really mean, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to egg but like me, I wanted the mean
Speaker 1: one sas why I'm thirty three and singles still that's
Speaker 1: because I've always gone for the long girls. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but like that was the first time I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think, well, the thing is he went from eggs
Speaker 1: to pie. I mean there's a clear trajectory eggs to pie. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I trusted in the increased pie. Yeah yeah, clearly that's
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff I should be watching. Great British absolutely, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you Lucky Son ever done? Okay, thank you. It's a
Speaker 1: good answer. Okay, this one. The question is what is
Speaker 1: the film that you most related to? What film have
Speaker 1: you works with? That's me that whether the character or
Speaker 1: the vibe of the film, or yes, now you can
Speaker 1: be as arrogant as you want, or yeah, whatever I
Speaker 1: think I'm doing. I think I've maybe got this one
Speaker 1: long okay, but it's the film. Maybe it's not I
Speaker 1: relate to. It relates to how I fought about stuff,
Speaker 1: so put the company. I was in a load of bands,
Speaker 1: and the aim was never to be necessarily like seen
Speaker 1: massive or favors. Yeah, it was to do something significant
Speaker 1: with music, make a difference. And always felt like people
Speaker 1: always like you're never gonna get you told a lotcually
Speaker 1: maybe not gonna get anywhere, and it's something to happen,
Speaker 1: and you think just trying and just doing it as
Speaker 1: enough and this is and that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: tell myself a lot. But it's only me telling myself that,
Speaker 1: don't really have anyone else reinforcing that and going, yeah,
Speaker 1: just you know, it's enough that you're doing it. You're
Speaker 1: probably you know, who knows. You might write a song
Speaker 1: and then no one hears it, but then ten years
Speaker 1: time someone picks it up at lights that But I
Speaker 1: was trying to say to myself that might happen. If
Speaker 1: you're doing something that you really like, other people will
Speaker 1: find it. Eventually they're like it. And it's a film
Speaker 1: called Fish Story. It's a lesbian film. No, no, that's
Speaker 1: go fish But you know, of course, of course you've
Speaker 1: heard of that one or not this one. But what
Speaker 1: is it? So it's a film about it's about the
Speaker 1: band Yes, who are recording a it's a single and
Speaker 1: they find out while they're recording it it might have
Speaker 1: been an album. They find out while they're recording it
Speaker 1: that they're getting dropped from the label and that this
Speaker 1: is the last album that they're done, and they got
Speaker 1: nothing in this band besides, and they're splitting up and
Speaker 1: they record this final song and he's using lyrics that
Speaker 1: he's he got from a book that he read, which
Speaker 1: is a book that no one's heard of, and that like,
Speaker 1: you know, never never did any business. And I think
Speaker 1: there's only like I remember in the film now, but
Speaker 1: if there's like even only one copy of it, he's
Speaker 1: got hold of it. It's like something ridiculous. There's this
Speaker 1: story behind this book, and while he's singing it, he
Speaker 1: makes a speech to the record label kind of saying
Speaker 1: how much he doesn't care about that they're dropping them.
Speaker 1: And then when they're like a label released the album,
Speaker 1: they cut his speech out, but they leave it. There's
Speaker 1: a silence, so there's a song, and then there's this
Speaker 1: block of silence, and then the song starts again, and
Speaker 1: then it's like a little kind of cult album and
Speaker 1: people have theories about the silence and it's like a
Speaker 1: haunted thing or something like that, and it's all like
Speaker 1: through different times. So the next kind of time period
Speaker 1: is someone going home. It's kind of quite weedy guy.
Speaker 1: He gets pushed around by a lot of people driving
Speaker 1: home in his own and this song's to take deck
Speaker 1: and silence come on. And during the silence, he hears
Speaker 1: a scream and he stops and realizes there's a woman
Speaker 1: getting assaulted and he goes up to try and help her.
Speaker 1: I think it just like fades out on that you
Speaker 1: don't really see what happens. And then there's another scene
Speaker 1: that's like on a boat and he's terrorists takeover the boat,
Speaker 1: and then one of the passengers is this boy who
Speaker 1: just it's like a martial arts master, like it's an
Speaker 1: indestructible kid just takes them all on on his own
Speaker 1: stories them and one of them passages this girl who
Speaker 1: was asleep, and he goes saves her life basically, and
Speaker 1: then she goes to school, does really well, becomes like
Speaker 1: a genius mathematician. And then there's an asteroid heading for
Speaker 1: Earth that's going to kill everybody in the future. Je yes,
Speaker 1: and then she is the whole plot of the film.
Speaker 1: But you had to yeah, exactly, this isn't that's what
Speaker 1: I was like a gift. But then she's basically the
Speaker 1: mathematician who figures out how to stop the asteroid. So
Speaker 1: if that and has also also the word also the
Speaker 1: kid who's like the coming food master, the marsh arts master. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is the child of the guy and the woman in
Speaker 1: the by the side of the roads, the guy who
Speaker 1: saves that woman. They go out and then he trains
Speaker 1: the kids in a way to be a wimp like him.
Speaker 1: Where's a fish Story? The book is called fish Story
Speaker 1: that he reads, and then the song is called fish
Speaker 1: Story that they like. So it's kind of about if
Speaker 1: you do anything creative, it's taking it to the m's
Speaker 1: degree and going you could be a little shitty punk
Speaker 1: band who no one listens to and you saved the world.
Speaker 1: I think I like that you relate to that. But
Speaker 1: I would say if you want to be sort of
Speaker 1: a creative person that no one sees and then you'll
Speaker 1: discovering any of your the and don't think yourself a netflix, well,
Speaker 1: actually change the thing. No, it's not, you know, it's
Speaker 1: still like it's basically the whole thing about it's just
Speaker 1: worth it to try, you know it. It's positive whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing, and if you're being creative, it's having a
Speaker 1: positive effect when you were in your bed. Yeah. That,
Speaker 1: and but it just takes it to It's like it
Speaker 1: takes that theory to its most preposterous limits. It's a
Speaker 1: bit tarantine. I asked the film and there's is great
Speaker 1: montage at the end where they just showed everything in order.
Speaker 1: So they showed the guys talking to get his book
Speaker 1: made and how it eventually leads to the world being safe,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just quite It's like that in School
Speaker 1: of Rock. Both made me feel like just worth it
Speaker 1: a try and be creative, that's all it is. There's
Speaker 1: like there's enough to just try one of the best films,
Speaker 1: so great, so amazing. Yeah. What's interesting about history is
Speaker 1: actually it sounds a bit like finals in terms of this, this, this,
Speaker 1: but it's the opposite leads to saving that. Yeah yeah
Speaker 1: good at the end. Yeah yeah yeah, music will save us, Aula.
Speaker 1: That's I still believe that, you believe that's it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean music, music, it gets me though. Yeah, anything
Speaker 1: that's great, it's amazing, magical, believe that. Yeah. A side note, then,
Speaker 1: what's the film with the best soundtrack? You can only
Speaker 1: have one. I like a lot of films that John
Speaker 1: Brian does the music for. Yes, and my favorite, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have Bees was nearly my film that I loved
Speaker 1: at the time when yeah, now, so there's a bit
Speaker 1: too much of its time. And also David Muscles made
Speaker 1: much better films since, but ib is a great soundtrack
Speaker 1: and maybe that would be it. Or come back to
Speaker 1: what film do you think is Objectively? It might not
Speaker 1: be your favorite film, but you are like, technically that
Speaker 1: is the greatest film of all time, in the same
Speaker 1: way critics usually say a Citizen Cane or Vertigo. It
Speaker 1: might have be your favorite, but you go from oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair enough that's the greatest film ever. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so I interpret this one has been my favorite one,
Speaker 1: but you know, and something like something like Shiners and
Speaker 1: Sittizens is a great film. But I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna go, well, let's put in this list. Sure, it's
Speaker 1: Friday night. I think if I was to say the
Speaker 1: director of all time, once I say standing Kubrick, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's when you've his greatest film, then I guess the
Speaker 1: greatest films the only one that I didn't like all
Speaker 1: the way through it, which is a great film, I'd
Speaker 1: say it's the one that I would say, like if
Speaker 1: someone saying, will show me the greatest time? Yeah, Aliens, come,
Speaker 1: you can only turn one for them? What's the greatest film?
Speaker 1: Is this medium of the film? Like I might, I
Speaker 1: didn't like it two thousand and one great, Like I'll
Speaker 1: probably show up that, but I'll go listen Aliens. Before
Speaker 1: I watched this full dist closure, I like the bait
Speaker 1: of the monkeys at the beginning, and I really love
Speaker 1: the house story and everything else. I'm going to fast
Speaker 1: forward it, okay, but in their game, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: this is a very long I wish the film was
Speaker 1: just the howthing, and I would like it more. But
Speaker 1: then if it was just the how thing for the
Speaker 1: whole film, I might not show it to people as
Speaker 1: an example of hares like yeah, because that the whole
Speaker 1: thing is, like you still get to the end and go, well,
Speaker 1: that's impressive, that's amazing that you that it's incredible. Also
Speaker 1: that he did it before Yeah, people went to the
Speaker 1: moon and ship Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah before yeah before
Speaker 1: did he hope that he could do mean fat Yeah
Speaker 1: he did the moon land and then they put clothes
Speaker 1: in the shining that he done the moon landing. Apparently
Speaker 1: I know all about it. Yeah, before we get to
Speaker 1: the phone missing when Bonus missing, and I just want
Speaker 1: I don't know, being too negative, but if we could
Speaker 1: quickly go with what do you think it's the worst
Speaker 1: of it? What's your what's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: Reminition staring Sandra Bullock. On paper, this sounds fun. She
Speaker 1: lived a week in the wrong order, so that's great.
Speaker 1: And her husband dies, so Dave one. Her husband dies
Speaker 1: in a lorry accident, and then she wakes up the
Speaker 1: next morning and it's his life but earlier in the week,
Speaker 1: and she wakes up again it's the funeral, so she's
Speaker 1: figuring out how a sabing and that sounds great, sounds
Speaker 1: like finally there's an It is awful. It's so boringly
Speaker 1: written right, it doesn't work the end. It is ridiculous
Speaker 1: that she ends up being the one who kills him
Speaker 1: in the car. But like, sounds so good. It's absolutely awful.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. I would have walked out the cinema.
Speaker 1: But when I saw it, I can only couldn't really
Speaker 1: afford to go to the cinema very often, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: well take it here, I am I going to watch it.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely amendous tell this story on podcast. You
Speaker 1: and I, I think one of the significant times where
Speaker 1: I made a decision about what I think about art
Speaker 1: and stuff happened with you because you and I on
Speaker 1: a date to see to see the film Snowtown. Yes, Snowtown,
Speaker 1: which is about the true story of a serial killer
Speaker 1: in Australia, and it is such a depressing, bleak, horrible
Speaker 1: film that although I think technically it's very well made,
Speaker 1: I hate that film. I think it's I don't know
Speaker 1: why it exists and ways, and there we were sat
Speaker 1: there an hour in and we've played twenty quitter ticket
Speaker 1: and it was like and about an hour into an
Speaker 1: already horrendously leaked film, one brother wrestles his other brother
Speaker 1: to the floor and starts ranking him, and the camera
Speaker 1: just stays in the cord watching a boy be raped
Speaker 1: by brother. And I turned to James and I said
Speaker 1: that said to takem I thought, what are we doing here? Why?
Speaker 1: And it made me realize that my big theory, which
Speaker 1: is the drama without jokes, without humor in it, is
Speaker 1: bad art. It means you have not looked at life,
Speaker 1: You've not understood life. Because when you read true stories
Speaker 1: of the Holocaust, people in concentration camps, they make jokes
Speaker 1: like that, people make people. There are moments of humor
Speaker 1: even in the darkest shit. And if your film doesn't
Speaker 1: have a fucking joke in it, you have failed. It's
Speaker 1: bad art, right fucking managed about the seat, tragic, heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: larious ladies of jackets. There still some jokes in there.
Speaker 1: I mean you have to dig deep to find them,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, there's still some jokes in Manchester by
Speaker 1: the Sea anyway. But Manchester by the Sea has also
Speaker 1: I would say it has relatable stuff in it. Snowtown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a bit where you go, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like unless you've been through any of that horrific shit, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. And even then if you have, it's not
Speaker 1: a relatable thing in a good way, you know, like
Speaker 1: in Manchester by the Sea you can go okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though I've not been for any of this stuff,
Speaker 1: I can see how like a human beings, you know,
Speaker 1: empathize them, imagine that happened to you. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I can see how many feels like that and he
Speaker 1: is in this awful position and when ship and you
Speaker 1: really feel for them all I mean Snowtown, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is just horrible. Yeah, it was really horrible thing
Speaker 1: after a horrible thing, and I have to know that
Speaker 1: it really happened, and the world is horrible. Yeah, really awful,
Speaker 1: really awful. But at least that it got a reaction
Speaker 1: out of me that I was like, oh, that's so horrid.
Speaker 1: When it really messed with me, permonition was like, no,
Speaker 1: I just hate it. It's just about this is boring.
Speaker 1: It's bad, it's ridiculous. And also I hate it when
Speaker 1: people take a what's quite a good idea, who fell
Speaker 1: over the bar and had murder it, so like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So to end on a more positive I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: being briefly negative there. So this is the final question
Speaker 1: is no, what is the greatest film? What is the
Speaker 1: film that you I guess it depends on your definition.
Speaker 1: I'd say this is your favorite film? What's the film
Speaker 1: that you could watch the most forever or have watched
Speaker 1: them very said to you, Oh, that film's only been great,
Speaker 1: let's watch it again. Sure, Why would you say this
Speaker 1: is our favorite? This isn't your favorite film? So it's
Speaker 1: when you could watch over and over because I think
Speaker 1: this is my favorite film. It's one of my favorite films.
Speaker 1: So this is final tap is my answer. The someone
Speaker 1: could watch over and over again because I have watched
Speaker 1: it over and over again and I know I can
Speaker 1: do it. No one's saying the most out of any film.
Speaker 1: The last time I saw it was at the cinema
Speaker 1: because they was doing the screening, and it's the only
Speaker 1: time I've been in a cinema where the laughs were
Speaker 1: all at the start of each scene. So literally the
Speaker 1: scene would open and the audience would laugh because we
Speaker 1: all knew what was going to happen. And we weren't
Speaker 1: necessarily laughing at the jokes, but like, you know, so
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this because it would open it
Speaker 1: being his hands playing the piano. I'm gonna be lit,
Speaker 1: my love pub this is so funny. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: that scene. And so like every bit of that film,
Speaker 1: every line is funny. You could just completely get lost
Speaker 1: in all of it. Like I watched it for the
Speaker 1: first time, didn't think it was funny. Me and my
Speaker 1: brother watched it. I was like, why are people talking
Speaker 1: about that film? And then we started quoting it even
Speaker 1: though we didn't like it, and we're like, well, like
Speaker 1: we're quoting it, maybe we watch it again. And we
Speaker 1: watched it again. It was the best film would ever seen,
Speaker 1: so funny, and then I had it on video, would
Speaker 1: take it off TV, and I just went around all
Speaker 1: of my friends house, was like, you got to watch it,
Speaker 1: and made all my friends watch it. And did they
Speaker 1: not like it the first time? He made him? No,
Speaker 1: they quite liked it. Actually, well some of them did
Speaker 1: them didn't, but my friend Jake and my friend two
Speaker 1: of my friends really liked it, and so they wanted
Speaker 1: to also show up other people. So it was always
Speaker 1: watching the people. And then I went to college to
Speaker 1: do a music course and met my friend Graham that
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with now, who was in looads of
Speaker 1: bands with But his favorite film was also Spinal Tap,
Speaker 1: so we were quoting it all the time. So all
Speaker 1: the time I just kept on it. Where it College,
Speaker 1: Northampton of happening, We did a b tech course in
Speaker 1: music practice many women. Yeah, yeah, well no, no one
Speaker 1: have broken up with me. I don't think having a
Speaker 1: proper golfriend at that. I've never know, but like busy
Speaker 1: masturbating two eggs, yeah, thank you? Yeah, yeah. If we
Speaker 1: were in a music shop, we had to go up
Speaker 1: to the guitars and going still with the old tag guy. Still,
Speaker 1: I've never ever played it. I liked having to do
Speaker 1: stuff like that all the time, and so the one
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching the most over and over again. So
Speaker 1: what's yours? You said that isn't your favorite? What's your
Speaker 1: favorite film? And then I guess we haven't asked that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite film? Is a turn of stunt
Speaker 1: train of spotless Man? That is film? Of course it is,
Speaker 1: of course it is. Did you even have to ask?
Speaker 1: Surely you know that's my favorite film. It's got the
Speaker 1: John Bran John brands A soundtracks. It's about a brain tap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sad, but it's pop, it's funny. It's funny, it's
Speaker 1: it looks beautiful. It looks beautiful, It's whimsical, innovative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: also very mismatched couple. Yeah, also what I like about it?
Speaker 1: So I like everyone who's involved in that film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I really like Miche Bandry and I really like
Speaker 1: Charlie Kaufman. But that film is just the perfect marriage
Speaker 1: for both of them in that I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think either of them. I liked Senectic Key New York
Speaker 1: who that film, I really liked it, But the things
Speaker 1: that signed me the most of them. So I do
Speaker 1: like films that are really, you know, difficult, and not
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna like that, but my favor but films I
Speaker 1: wanted that managed to be innovative and yet accessible. And
Speaker 1: that film is so creative, so inventive and original and
Speaker 1: yet relatable accessible opinion. People who like mainstream films could
Speaker 1: like that film, you know, and enjoy it. And I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything about it that I don't like. Also,
Speaker 1: Jim Carey he's amazing. I like him with loads of films,
Speaker 1: but like I've watched him growing up. You know, my
Speaker 1: first abstruction to him so as a kid, and it
Speaker 1: was all of his you know, more wacky like big
Speaker 1: you know, I mean when he probably blew up with
Speaker 1: Dama and Dama in the Mask and Aventure and they
Speaker 1: were all like back to back and he was great.
Speaker 1: So I loved him as a kid, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite actors because I was watching comedy films all the time.
Speaker 1: So then to be an adult or in my twenties
Speaker 1: and see him in this film that I've really related to.
Speaker 1: But it's this guy who I've grown up with, would
Speaker 1: love anyway. And then see him and now he's doing
Speaker 1: a film I can really relate to on a different level.
Speaker 1: Is quite special because definitely when I watched it and
Speaker 1: time was the time I likes to be watching films
Speaker 1: like Garden State and stuff like that and thinking those
Speaker 1: kind of female characters, what kind of people wanted to
Speaker 1: be with, and so she kind of fit into that.
Speaker 1: But then you watch it as an adult, you go, oh,
Speaker 1: she's not that. She's literally him. Charlie Kampman saying those
Speaker 1: cats are bullshit because She's literally saying, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sold anything for you. I'm not all this
Speaker 1: is like, oh yeah, she's great, Like even now you
Speaker 1: can watch it and being like I realized that the
Speaker 1: only Charlie kam film that's sort of optimistic is the
Speaker 1: most uptimistices films. I think most of them are pretty
Speaker 1: I loved them. I think he's brilliant. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's I find what's the one, the first one being
Speaker 1: Dangers one of the saddest films. Yeah, that's the Matilda
Speaker 1: of It's such a dark, sad ending. Although also the
Speaker 1: end of the it makes me laugh when Charlie Sheen
Speaker 1: knows on his house because the nicknames for each other,
Speaker 1: I'm just hilarious. Malcatraz she mashin. There's such a deliberately
Speaker 1: rubbish nickname, like they deliberately wrote a bad nickname. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't gotten the first happen for my source adaptation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of nods to be in Jomalkovic that
Speaker 1: you do you think you need to watch that film?
Speaker 1: But I loved it. It's like nothing I'd ever seen before,
Speaker 1: and so I would watch everything was going done and
Speaker 1: I didn't mean knowing Michelle gonetrew very well, but like
Speaker 1: going to see a tonal Sunshine and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's just what I wouldn't I always want
Speaker 1: to watch that. Now, Okay, James, there will be next
Speaker 1: some answers. I just found out that when you dad
Speaker 1: in the quicksand you swallowed a lot of it and
Speaker 1: it made your your corpse. But like so much that
Speaker 1: there's any room for one of these films in your coffin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so which of the films that you've discussed it you're
Speaker 1: going to take with you forever? There is the only
Speaker 1: film you're gonna have in heaven. I can watch it,
Speaker 1: you can watch it, and you can show it to
Speaker 1: people in heaven, but you can't take all of it.
Speaker 1: It's only it's gonna do any film, Han say, is
Speaker 1: it going to be? Is it going to be? Or
Speaker 1: Final Destination? Five? Three? Some good picks? I think it's
Speaker 1: Gonne trying. I've got to take that with me. It
Speaker 1: would be the one that i'd want to. I've been
Speaker 1: watching it over and over. It's fine, time and watch
Speaker 1: it every day and it's fine. But that's terms trying
Speaker 1: for the one that i'd want to show it to people.
Speaker 1: Have a bit of a break, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to things do want to watch it again? Would just
Speaker 1: be watching over. Yeah, let's do some gardening. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: also I think there's always things I do always every
Speaker 1: time I watching us, I'm trying to spot something different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it would be that you have to be that.
Speaker 1: I feel bad that I haven't. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: for the record, my favorite director is with Anderson and
Speaker 1: now we can move on. I feel bad I'm taching
Speaker 1: none of his films. He's your he's your favorite my
Speaker 1: favorite director not yet, but yeah, I couldn't feel it
Speaker 1: like him that much. I mean maybe I'm even going
Speaker 1: off of him, but like I think is my favorite metter.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about films. They're not make
Speaker 1: sure at any point, but like, yeah, can find a
Speaker 1: category that you fit into. Your company is currently being learned,
Speaker 1: even though a lot liked it, so I could great. Yeah, yeah, James,
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you go to heaven. You've earned it.
Speaker 1: And may I say thank you so much. May I
Speaker 1: say as as we end it, that you are the
Speaker 1: inturn of sunshine of people in whinsical and original and
Speaker 1: inventive and brilliant, but also accessible and people can get you.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit large and carry and a bit like
Speaker 1: Kate Winsley. Oh yeah, you're not who they say you are.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Solve you guys, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming. Thank you really enjoyed this. You're a
Speaker 1: lovely Corey. Stop thanking over X. Good day. Well that
Speaker 1: was episode two hundred and seventeen, and also episode one.
Speaker 1: Haven't we come a long way? If anything, we haven't
Speaker 1: changed a bit? Am I right? What does it all mean?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Anyway? Thank you very much for listening. I
Speaker 1: hope you're all well. Thanks for scrupis pipping the Distraction
Speaker 1: and pieces of Network. Thanks to Body Piece for producing it,
Speaker 1: Thanks to ACAS for hosting it. Thanks to Laura Lading
Speaker 1: for the photography, Adam Richardson for the graphics. Next week
Speaker 1: we'll be back with another classic, an absolute classic. I'm
Speaker 1: putting up all my favorites. They're all my favorites for
Speaker 1: some of them are all my favorites, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Anyway, I hope you're all well. Thank
Speaker 1: you all for listening. In the meantime, have a lovely week,
Speaker 1: and please now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
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