1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's and we are back in the courtroom. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: It is Key Key with another episode of the Key 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Key coord podcast. And because the show was best of today, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm here to give you a new case. Because this 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: one is very timely. Let's get into it. It says, hey, 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Kei Key, am I wrong for refusing to sing the 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: national anthem at my family's Fourth of July party. I 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: come from a very patriotic, small town kind of family, 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: and every year my parents host a huge Fourth of 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: July gathering with fireworks, food decorations, the works, and every 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: year they make everyone stand up and sing the national 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: anthem before dinner, like we're at a middle school assembly. Now, 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: I will give them credit that my parents and my 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: uncles are all veterans. So this year I brought my 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: boyfriend to the gathering, and when it was time to 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: sing the anthem, I just decided. 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it. I just didn't. 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: I sat quietly while everyone else stood and sang. My 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: boyfriend also sat next to me, quietly, mostly just following 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: my lead. He didn't know what to do. I didn't 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: say anything. I didn't roll my eyes, I didn't make 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: a scene. I just chose not to participate well. My 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: uncle noticed and made a snide comment. He said, I 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: guess some people think they're too cool for America. Now 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: that opened the floodgates. My mom pulled me aside afterward 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: and told me I embarrassed her and disrespected the spirit 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: of the holiday. My dad said that if I hate 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: this country so much, maybe I shouldn't come next year. 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: My cousins got passive aggressive on social media and made 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: little nasty posts on their Facebook pages. I didn't mean 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: to start anything. I just didn't want to vibe with 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: the performative patriotism. And I didn't think that me quietly 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: opting out would ruin the whole day of the family 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: thinks I some ungrateful anti American buzzkill. Am I wrong 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: for not singing and ruining the moment? Or should my 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: family chill out and just let me observe the holiday? 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: How I please? Am I wrong? 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Whoa girl? Okay, lots to unpack here. Now. I love 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: my country. Let me just say that. 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not proud of every decision that's being 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: made and things that are happening, But overall, you know, 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: I came up as a little girl who dreamt of 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: singing the national anthem one day at like the super Bowl. 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: So I understand that part of it, But I don't 45 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: know who sings the national anthem at the damn family gatherings? 46 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: Is this normal? Like? Is this just maybe black people 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: don't do it? I don't know. 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: I've never in my life been at a family function 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: and we'd be like, you know what, guys, let's sing 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: the black national anthem because there is one. No, I've 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: never been at a family function where they said let's 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: sing any national anthem them. Never, So that's odd to me, 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, just to start off. But you know, you, 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: every family is different. And if this is your family tradition, okay, 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong, though, I don't I think 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: you have You're an adult at this point. You say, 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: you're twenty six years old here. You know you have 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: the right to decide for yourself how you want to 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: celebrate your holidays. And if you don't want to sing 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: the national anthem at the damn family cookout, that is 61 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: your prerogative in my opinion, And I understand that as 62 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: veterans and people who are super proud of their country, 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: and you know your uncles and your dad and your 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: mom whatever. They are older and they have their own 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: views of life, and they are allowed to be triggered 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: that you didn't want to participate, But that doesn't make 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: you wrong. In my opinion, I think you can get 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: up and do whatever the hell you want to do. 69 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: If you decided to get up and sing juvenile back 70 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: that ass. 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Up at the party, that's your parah. 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: Everybody is an adult in this situation, and everybody has 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: the right to celebrate in holidays how they choose to. 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Same with voting, same with just life in general. 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: We're all adults with free will, and we have the 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: right to make the decisions that we want to make. Now, 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: are you always going to land on the right side 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: of history? 79 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: No? Probably not. I mean hopefully you will, but most 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: times no. 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: So you know, your family can agree to disagree, but 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: they don't have the right to like condemn you because 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: you decided not to participate in singing the national anthem, 84 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: which in my opinion, is weird to do at a 85 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: family gathering. But hey, I don't want to, you know, 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: let me know if this is something that your family does. 87 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think you're wrong. 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: Friend, I don't, and I think maybe you know, you 89 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: say in the letter that you didn't want to do 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: it because you didn't want to be a part of 91 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: performative patriotism. But I also think that this situation can 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: open up a deeper dialogue with you and your family 93 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: to maybe discuss why you truly, you know you performing 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: the patriotism is one thing, but maybe there's some things 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: you want to discuss within your family of why you 96 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: don't feel as patriotic and why you don't want to 97 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: sing the national anthem and why you chose to sit 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: down And maybe though you guys need to have that 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: deeper conversation and that can even get very wild, like 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: that can open up a real can of worms, because 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: I think within the last couple of months, a lot 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: of us have realized that, you know, our family members 103 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: are not all on the right side of history, or 104 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: we all don't have the same views and beliefs. And 105 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: I think, you know, there is a healthy way to 106 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: have that conversation and where you people can agree to 107 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: disagree or y'all can have an drag out, blowout fight. 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: But either way, I think it's important to share with 109 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: your family why you feel the way you feel, and 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: maybe that can help either change their views on some 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: things or help them to kind of see your side 112 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: of things, or it can completely let you know that 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: this is a type of family that you're dealing with, 114 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: and you now you know that they don't align with 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: any of your beliefs. So I think it can open 116 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: up a deeper conversation. And I think that if I 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: was you and I saw how my family reacted, I 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: would say, well, hey, guys, let me explain to you 119 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: why I'm feeling this way, and I would open up 120 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: the conversation and have the dialogue, because why not. They're 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: already pissed at you, so how much work it's gonna get. 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: But I think it's important to have those conversations with 123 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: family members. I know, even in my family, we've had 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: some intense, okay conversations over the last couple of months 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: between me and my brothers, my boyfriend, just trying to 126 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: get them to understand and see the you know, the 127 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: woman the side of things and how you know, things 128 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: are affecting women, also how things are affecting my race 129 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: and how like it's just so many different conversations. 130 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, my phone's going on. 131 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: There's just so many different conversations that can be had 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: between families right now with everything that is happening in 133 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: our world. So I think it opens up a different, 134 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: deeper conversation. And since they're already mad girl, take it there, 135 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: take it there. But yeah, you don't have to sing 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: the national anthem if you don't want to see the 137 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: national anthem at the cookout, Like, come on, man, that's 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: my thoughts. 139 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. 140 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: I posted the video frad Show Radio on Instagram at 141 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: on air keykey on Instagram, and I'll be back in 142 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: the courtroom with more cases this week. 143 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, friend,