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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: This is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Of

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Speaker 3: course we didn't do a show yesterday because it was

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Speaker 3: New Year's Day, but we're back at it today, fresh

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Speaker 3: new year, wiped a slate clean, and uh well, we

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Speaker 3: have a Steelers injury report. Yeah, we're today, great place

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Speaker 3: to start. The only guy on the injury report who

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Speaker 3: is actually on the active roster who has any injury

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Speaker 3: designation for this game for the Pittsburgh Steelers game being

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Speaker 3: Saturday night against the Cincinnati Bengals, is Dante Jackson, the cornerback.

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Speaker 3: He was limited the last two days of the back issue,

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Speaker 3: but he said he is playing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, great, Obviously you made those qualifiers. You're not

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Speaker 4: talking about the Holcombs of the world.

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Speaker 3: All out for this game. And I tweeted the tweeted

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Speaker 3: the injury report out. We're exited out. What do you

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Speaker 3: call that?

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Speaker 2: I still call it Twitter.

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Speaker 3: It's it's the ex Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what it is.

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Speaker 3: So I put that out there earlier today a little

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Speaker 3: bit a little bit while ago, and immediately I get

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Speaker 3: what's going on. Why isn't Room and Wilson active? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I know, I've been getting a lot of Room and

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Speaker 2: Wilson feedback.

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Speaker 3: He's practiced like three weeks this season totally all season,

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Speaker 3: including camp, right, including training camp, and you expect him

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Speaker 3: to just hop right in here and jump right out

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Speaker 3: there and play who are you playing him over?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Tell me who?

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Speaker 4: Give me give me an idea who you're playing him over? Well,

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Speaker 4: that's the thing. I mean, like, you're not going to

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Speaker 4: take scronica of the mix. I mean, he's a key

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Speaker 4: special teamer. Yeah, Mike Williams, No, I mean I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you need big bodies, You only need another

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Speaker 4: little guy.

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Speaker 3: You might say, well, Scotty Miller.

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Speaker 2: Well, Scotty Miller, Yeah, he's not always active anyway, No,

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Speaker 2: he is. He does. I mean, I guess most of

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Speaker 3: But Scotty Miller. Earlier this season when they needed to

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Speaker 3: back up Hole, he did it, and they needed to

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Speaker 3: back up Gunner, he did it.

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Speaker 2: And I say the gunner things more important than the holder.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guys around unless you don't have another holder,

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Speaker 3: right right, But no, you're not gonna suddenly go you

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Speaker 3: know what, Scottie, thanks a lot for everything, but you're

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Speaker 3: going to be an active this week. So we're going

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Speaker 3: to bring up the kid that hasn't done anything all

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Speaker 3: season long, just because the fans are crazy about it.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know, and I'm totally in your corner

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Speaker 4: and I understand it. What would Wilson have to do

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Speaker 4: in practice to make that a discussion.

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Speaker 2: But he have to be just lighted up or that

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Speaker 2: was even possible that would help. I mean, at this.

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Speaker 3: Point, now you're he's running scout team stuff. There's here's

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Speaker 3: the thing, folks. They activated those three players.

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Speaker 2: And he's not a run with the ones.

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Speaker 3: No, right, right, They activated Wilson, Holcombe and Lee at

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Speaker 3: this point because they had nothing to lose. They have

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Speaker 3: nothing to lose if you have an injury. Now all

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Speaker 3: these teams are gonna do that. Yeah, the smart ones

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Speaker 3: are right because you've got you You've got these You've

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Speaker 3: got these spots where you can bring these guys back.

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Speaker 3: You get eight of them during the regular season, get

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Speaker 3: twenty one days. Yeah yeah, I think you get two

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Speaker 3: more in the postseason. Oh really, but you got eight

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Speaker 3: of them. So you got to use them.

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Speaker 2: As well, or they don't carry over next year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, then you have twenty one days. Well, that takes

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Speaker 3: you through this week, That takes you through next week,

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Speaker 3: which is the first week in your playoffs. It takes

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Speaker 3: you through the following week, which is the second week

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs. Yeah, and then you get to make

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Speaker 3: that point, if you make it that far, you've only

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and in the meantime, Wilson's out there

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Speaker 4: running against get better. Yeah, you're getting a better look

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Speaker 4: at him and Lee except I mean, I'm thinking about

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Speaker 4: those two because they're both young. You have both rookies

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Speaker 4: right right, But it's not goal number one. Let's put

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Speaker 4: them right out there. Let's put Logan, Let's work on

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Speaker 4: Logan Lee's hands placements all day Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: No, you got to beat the you know, the upcoming

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Speaker 2: teams here. You know, let's see what we got in

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson in the playoffs. Let's see what he can do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, I understand the excitement, folks, I do too,

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Speaker 4: but there's those logistics behind.

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Speaker 3: Him to break. The guy misseding olive training camp and

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Speaker 3: then he practiced for three weeks earlier in the season.

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Speaker 3: They finally got him into a game and then he

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Speaker 3: got hurt again. Yeah, like to expect this guy to

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Speaker 3: jump on I mean, you want to talk about jumping

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Speaker 3: on a moving train, like, come on, he's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a knock on him at all.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: Right, if by chance he would be active in any

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Speaker 4: of these stretch over the twenty one days, he's probably

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Speaker 4: blowing their doors off, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Or it's because the other guy's got hurt, right,

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Speaker 3: exactly exactly, that's what that's what you would do.

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Speaker 2: It takes that role or whatever, but.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to force it. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: it would be silly at this point to do so.

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Speaker 3: And what kind of message would it send the rest

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because that's what you'd have to do, somebody.

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Speaker 3: Else would have to go and yeah, again that sends

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Speaker 3: a bad message. Well, Scotty. We love you. We carried

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Speaker 2: But he has value. Yeah, but you're gone. Yeah. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't send a great message. No, it doesn't. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: Wilson would have to blow your doors.

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Speaker 3: He would have if he were your first round, if

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Speaker 4: That's about to bring up since who's not in that group,

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Speaker 4: Does that mean there's a zero chance he plays?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I assume that was the answer to that.

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Speaker 3: But they're at least opening the window for these guys

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Speaker 3: a to get to your point, to get them some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the beauty of it. At least they get

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Speaker 4: out there and become a better football player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Times and for in the case of Hoholcombe, you want

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Speaker 3: his butt to get to to get healthy. You haven't

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Speaker 3: had a linebacker injury to need him, but if you did,

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Speaker 3: now you can bring him back.

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Speaker 2: I should know this. But his contract is not up

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Speaker 2: right now, he's got I think he's got another year.

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Speaker 4: He'll be in camp. Yeah, so yeah, Okay. I mean

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Speaker 4: I know the rookies will be of course, so you get.

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Speaker 3: Him a little work and hey, you know, you may

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Speaker 3: want to make a decision about that in the offseason. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: you get three weeks here to look at him practicing

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Speaker 3: and say, Okay, he looks like he would be back,

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Speaker 3: so we'll carry that contract over in the next season,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Wilson isn't. Queen isn't. I don't think

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Speaker 4: Roberts is up either, right, I believe he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's a two year deal. Okay, Okay, that adds up,

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Speaker 4: that ds up. Yeah, and chances of all four being

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Speaker 4: in camps em well, I don't know. I mean because

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Speaker 4: even when I thought Hope's money camp, maybe I thought

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Speaker 4: he might be a trade candidate.

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Speaker 2: But I mean he was wasn't ready. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: On the Sameway Cincinnati side of things, there's an interesting

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Speaker 3: one here. Yeah, Chase Brown did not practice all week long.

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Speaker 3: He is listed as questionable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not playing.

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Speaker 4: I guess the head coach said he's a game time decision.

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Speaker 4: I think that's gamesmanship. I can't imagine he played.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand them wanting to leave the door

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Speaker 3: he's their best back by far, by far. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they don't even give the ball to anybody else when

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Speaker 3: he has been healthy. Orlando Brown Junior got back to

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Speaker 3: a full participant today, so he is going to play.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with Joe Burrow. He was limited all week

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Speaker 3: long until today. Trey Hendrickson to Burrough that he's calling

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Speaker 3: thing has been all Yeah, Trey Hendrickson was a full

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Speaker 2: That's the one that's interesting, peculiar.

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Speaker 3: You know, limited all week long with ankle and knee

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Now, we predicted this five six months ago that there

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Speaker 4: might be a day that this arises. That if you're

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Speaker 4: mister Higgins and the team neglects to have long term

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Speaker 4: contract situation with you, are you super eager to run

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Speaker 2: When you don't have to. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either. I mean, that's up, that's that's

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Speaker 3: the decision the.

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Speaker 2: Seeds here, or say he's just going to tell him no.

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Speaker 3: But he may look at this and say, hey, we

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Speaker 3: got a six percent chance to make the playoffs. Even

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Speaker 3: if we win this game, there are still two other

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Speaker 3: things that have to happen, and both teams in both

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Speaker 3: situations are favored, including the Broncos, who are heavily favored

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Speaker 3: to be chief against backups. So even if we win

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Speaker 3: this game, does it get us into the playoffs? Probably not.

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Speaker 3: I'm coming off an eleven catch three touchdown game last

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Speaker 3: week in Cincinnati where I said after the game that

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Speaker 3: this is probably my last, you know, game in front

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Speaker 3: of the home fans. If I go out there, let's

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Speaker 3: say we even if we win this game, but if

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Speaker 3: I go out there and get hurt in this game,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to lose millions.

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Speaker 4: Ten maybe ten million or whatever, depending on the fare

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Speaker 4: of the injury. Right, even if it's something small that,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: The offseason surgery something, but God forbid, he tears at

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Speaker 3: acl for an achilles or something like that.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be the hottest free agent on the market.

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Speaker 3: It's going to make thirty plus million dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's coming off his best year And I

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Speaker 4: totally get that. And if I were the Patriots or

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Speaker 4: lot of teams will be and I wouldn't blame him

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Speaker 4: I don't know much about him, but that should say

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Drew Sample, who's there blocking tight end?

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Speaker 3: Did not practice all week long? He has listed his question.

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Speaker 4: He's important for them though, Yeah. I mean he's who

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Speaker 4: They can't because he's still their best guy, still their

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Speaker 4: Don't play, yeah, I was really thinking of four in Higgins, Taylor,

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Speaker 2: He's the one I've written off I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just watching the injury happen live is like, hey,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't pretty and mediately he was ruled out

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Speaker 4: No, No, and that definitely works in their favor. You know,

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Speaker 3: burrow the last time these two teams played. Okay, his

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Speaker 2: Six ones, they're gonna be the shorter one, right.

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Speaker 3: He was eighteen of twenty four for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 4: Mahomes epitomized that Burrow has been great about it in general,

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Speaker 4: You know, two six is big too, because he does

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Speaker 4: It's like he does that better than ever too. So

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Speaker 2: But I think he's going to complete a high percentage

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Speaker 4: You got to tackle the catch, you know, and if

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be some overthrows. There's gonna be some misses.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I don't remember a lot of them being screens.

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Speaker 3: He had twenty eight throw the same strategy, same strategy.

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Speaker 3: You can't let that happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And a big thing that I think people were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the opponents also matters, no question, I mean, no

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Speaker 3: The other thing about this Bengals team, in particular, about

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Speaker 3: He's so good after the catchin Higgins is the downfield guy.

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Speaker 3: That, but they would prefer to get throughout him quickly

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Speaker 2: Those plays out.

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Speaker 4: One quick slant to Chase breaks the tackle or run,

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Speaker 4: No, he's a really accomplished receiver. Yeah he's not a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I just think, you know, you you focus your Hey,

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Speaker 3: you see Chase within ten yards, we gotta have three

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Speaker 3: guys closing on him quickly. With Higgins Joey.

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Speaker 4: You guys assume that's Joe you know, maybe that's off coverage,

444
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Speaker 4: press whatever. Don't get beat over the top, fighting for

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Speaker 4: the ball in the air.

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Speaker 2: Go from there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if Higgins isn't playing, well, that's waysier. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I assume Porter would then follow Chase and then.

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Speaker 3: With with Kasiki. You know, that's what you have Deshaun

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Speaker 3: Elliott form because he's a tall, you know, he's a

451
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Speaker 3: long rangey kind of athlete playing tight end. He's really

452
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Speaker 3: just a big wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean if you look at him, it's pretty obvious

455
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Speaker 4: that he had a really good volleyball background. Yeah, you know,

456
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Speaker 4: he's great vertical, he's super long, but he's not a

457
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Speaker 4: change of direction dude. I mean, he's a real tall, long, striding, fast,

458
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Speaker 4: you know, tight end slash receiver.

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Speaker 3: But they don't try to necessarily throw him the ball

460
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Speaker 3: down the field. It's not ten yards, so you.

461
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Speaker 4: Can get him in most you know, get him in stride,

462
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Speaker 4: and Burrow's great at that. Of course, he can run

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Speaker 4: away from people, you know, particularly linebackers, so.

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Speaker 3: It does make them much easier to defend in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at it, Chase Brown has

466
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Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty nine carries. Yeah, Zach Moss, who's

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Speaker 3: not playing in this game, has seventy four. Burrow's the

468
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Speaker 3: third leading rusher in terms of carries with forty one.

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Speaker 3: Herbert has eight.

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Speaker 4: It is eight yeah, I mean they anyone in the fans,

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Speaker 4: the community understood that when Moss went out, brown got

472
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Speaker 4: like every running back touch every game after game, Chase

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Speaker 4: has three carries, okay, Jake Browning has two carries, Tanner

474
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Speaker 4: Hudson has one, and Drew Sample has one.

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Speaker 2: I wonder Browning just like Nils. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the game, they had.

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Speaker 3: Three hundred and fifty nine carries and those are the

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Speaker 3: guys who have carried the ball for that.

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Speaker 4: That's why I keep coming back to. I know they're

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Speaker 4: not going to become ground and pound, we know that,

481
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Speaker 4: but are they even going to have.

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Speaker 2: Twenty running back touches they had?

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Speaker 3: They had thirteen running back carries the first time these

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Speaker 3: two teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, third at the height of his power. Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll do that at all. The game.

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Speaker 2: You have to have burrow in the shotguns. It's all

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Speaker 2: on you here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, We're put it all on your shoulders and we're

490
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Speaker 3: going to live and die by what you do.

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Speaker 2: In this game.

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Speaker 4: And expect to see some empty I mean, I think

493
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Speaker 4: that's going to happen in fair amount too.

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Speaker 3: The scary thing about going empty against the Steelers, right

495
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Speaker 3: was protection?

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 3: Again the ball has to come out quick.

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Speaker 4: Empty's gonna be under two point five seconds. There's no

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Speaker 4: doubt about that. Yeah, So you can get your hands

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Speaker 4: on a couple of those and tackle the catch. Make

501
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Speaker 4: it tough on him at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're gonna move the ball. He's got to turn

504
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Speaker 3: him over a couple of times. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

506
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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, the Pro Bowl rosters

507
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Speaker 3: have been released.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I haven't even really looked at him and talk about that,

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Speaker 3: and that's all I know. We will do that when

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Speaker 3: we return right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 3: Radio, and welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt. As I mentioned before the break,

518
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Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl teams have been announced. Okay, where Steelers

519
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Speaker 3: make it. You have TJ. Watt, Sure, Cam Hayward Good,

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Speaker 3: Chris Boswell, nice make and Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 4: Some wouldn't be shocked about Maca. I think that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty how many safeties they take. They

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Speaker 4: take four, they take three, two strongs and one free Okay,

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Speaker 4: so I know they take slots now and Nicols he's

525
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Speaker 4: the only free safety on the roster in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Make it and for all the people out there saying,

528
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Speaker 3: Menca Fitzpatrick was having a bad season, mekea Fitzpatrick did

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Speaker 3: not win the fan vote, right at free safety. There's

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Speaker 3: a percentage, right, and it's thirty thirty three per players,

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Speaker 3: thirty three percent coaches.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I believe media has no vote.

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Speaker 3: That media has no saying they do the fan vote

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Speaker 3: and they do the players and coaches. Okay, So makea

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Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick did not win the fan vote. That was a

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Speaker 3: money hookerkay, But makea Fitzpatrick obviously won the coach and

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Speaker 3: player vote.

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Speaker 2: Which one do you think is more?

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Speaker 3: Who knows more about who's playing well?

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Speaker 2: Is not exactly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's safe to say with all you fans,

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Speaker 4: I love your you know, Gusto, But I'll take the

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Speaker 4: coaches out on that, or the people playing against him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys who have to scheme against him or

545
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Speaker 3: play against him now I understand that you might want

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Speaker 3: more splash plays out of make a his star. He

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Speaker 3: does as well. He even said today, he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't think I would I would get

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Speaker 3: it this year because I don't have as many splash plays.

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Speaker 3: But in good interview today, huh yeah. If you look

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Speaker 3: at what he has done this year. For example, the

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Speaker 3: first time the Steelers played the Ravens, they matched Makea

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Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick up on Andrews espetually on pivotal down. Andrews had

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Speaker 3: two catches for third or twenty three yards.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Second time around, they couldn't do that because Elliott was

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Speaker 3: out right all right, that was Andrews goes crazy.

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Speaker 4: Now, I mean we've been saying it all along. I

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Speaker 4: have no concerns at all. I mean in the nature

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Speaker 4: of his position when he's not doing those things, which

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Speaker 4: a high percentage, he's the goalie, you, I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: the last layer of defense, and he allows those other

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Speaker 4: ten to be a lot more aggressive. It's the best

564
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Speaker 4: safety blanket feeling ever behind you, Ed Reid, Earl Thomas.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the best tacklers in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep, And we have seen glimpses, especially while Elliott

567
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Speaker 4: was out of doing more than that, and we all

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Speaker 4: know he's very, very capable. Yeah, so I have no

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Speaker 4: concerns with that guy at all.

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Speaker 2: None, none.

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Speaker 4: But I do like the southern stuff you mentioned in

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Speaker 4: the first segment about short crisp answers about you know,

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Speaker 4: getting things fixed and things like that too. You know,

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Speaker 4: there might have been another show is doing I'm a

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Speaker 4: little confused.

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Speaker 3: That was another show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, that was another show is doing it.

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Speaker 3: There's your Pro Bowl ross at quarterback, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that Mahomes doesn't make.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes doesn't make those three have to go, have to go.

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Speaker 3: Running back Derrick Henry, Joe Mixon, Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Henry's an easy one and he snubs. I can't say

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Speaker 4: the AFC is super strong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think of any.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's an I can't put a chan

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Speaker 4: over those guys or that's it's good enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Tyler came one strong.

589
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Speaker 3: Full back fullback Patrick Ricard.

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Speaker 2: That guy's a good to a lot of Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 3: This is like nine. Yeah, he just goes every year

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Speaker 3: how about this stat I saw this today. The NFL

593
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Speaker 3: send out some stats on this. Let me find this thing.

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Speaker 3: Someone's gonna make a Hall of Fame case for him.

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Speaker 3: He went, oh yeah, going to do that because when

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Speaker 3: you hear the names that he is.

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Speaker 2: Let's just listen to this. This made me crazy. I

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Speaker 2: mean yesteryear because all Stott was listed as a fullback. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but didn't block anybody. He went every year.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Yuschek became the fifth running back slash fullback in

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Speaker 3: NFL history to make nine plus career Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and for people don't remember, like Franco Harris was

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Speaker 4: called a fullback because.

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Speaker 3: He was here's the list fully back, you know, right,

605
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Speaker 3: here's the list of guys that Kyle way Back joins.

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Speaker 3: On that list Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Frank o'harris, and

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Speaker 3: Jim Brown. Are we going to consider y Come on, right,

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Speaker 3: and one of these things is not like the others.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's look at all their touches per game. He

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Speaker 4: is zero point two, you know right.

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Speaker 2: Now, He's good at what he does.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's good at what he does, but he

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Speaker 3: plays less now than maybe he ever has. Like he's

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Speaker 3: at like forty percent of the snaps for them, But.

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Speaker 4: If a full back's going to go, he should go.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. I mean, it's still it's a glitch.

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Speaker 3: Well, last year, I think last year went again. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it was I don't think it was used

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Speaker 3: check last year. I think it was the Miami fullback

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Speaker 3: whose name I can't even think of. It's full back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why are we picking a full back for the

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Speaker 2: for the we pick a long snapper? Yeah? Is there

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Speaker 2: a long snapper to go?

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Speaker 3: But most teams don't even have a full back?

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Speaker 2: Right, say, there's not even thirty one other people you're coming?

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Speaker 3: I mean the last time, yeah, the last time I looked, Uh,

627
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Speaker 3: this was a couple of hits. Sixteen of the teams had.

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Speaker 4: Even had them, right, and some of them were like

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Speaker 4: what who was didn't go out there and lead block

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Speaker 4: hardly at all?

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Speaker 2: You know, right?

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Speaker 3: I mean the Steelers used Connor Heyward as a fullbacker.

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Speaker 3: They call him a tight end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got a tight end. He doesn't go with

635
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Speaker 4: Nausey and Warren on you know that kind of stuff. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean that's just a I mean, the Chargers use

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Speaker 4: those two d linemen as they'd use like a recard.

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Speaker 4: But those are the only ones that consistently use a big,

639
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Speaker 4: you know hammer all.

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Speaker 3: But again they use a three hundred pounds defensive lineman

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Speaker 3: as their fullback. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if he's

642
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Speaker 3: better or worse than you.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was always heard, but sorry.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Ricard yuscheck is the one who's made it a

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Speaker 3: million a million times. We haven't gotten having but recards

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Speaker 3: made of the number of times as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, And to keep going to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at wide receiver, I have a little bit of

649
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Speaker 3: a problem with this. Your starters are Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 3: Jerry Judy.

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Speaker 4: Judy's hard to swallow as a starter. Chase is a

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Speaker 4: slam dunk as a starter. Wow, AFC is a little down.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: The other two receivers are Nico Collins and a Flowers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if Nico would have played all every game to

656
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Speaker 4: this point, he definitely should be a start. He still

657
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Speaker 4: had a better season than Jerry. Judy has the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Judy had a good month in maybe five or six games.

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00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: The Winston year. Yeah, is when all his production came

660
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 4: when they threw actually threw the ball.

661
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: Would you take Judy over Pickens. No, I think Pickens

662
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: a better player.

663
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pickens missed time too, that's why he missed three games. Yeah,

664
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 3: but if you look at the impact and number, like

665
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: I might take like Sutton over him, Courtland Sultan would

666
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: be would be a great one.

667
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to I'm just scanning the Yeah.

668
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about a little bit. Right, who else is

669
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: out there?

670
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: Well?

671
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: How about uh Brian Thomas.

672
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: Thomas is a real good one toom it shouldn't be

673
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: in over a couple over Flowers too, Yeah, he might

674
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: be my number two in the car. Right, Jerry Judy

675
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: is a starter for god, Right, that's bad.

676
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: Tight end Brock Bauers and Travis Kelcey.

677
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: Cool Kelsey's a bit of a Lifetime Achievement award. But

678
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: it's not a little bit, I mean anymore. But right

679
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: Bowers an easy.

680
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: One offensive tackle, Dion Dawkins, Laramie Tonsel that's not shameful.

681
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's bad. And Rashawn Slater Slater's been awesome.

682
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: They don't care about right and left? Right, No, I

683
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: mean I would take well take a ton of people

684
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: over Tonsole this year.

685
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, alt Remember they don't even play a game anymore.

686
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: It's just just oh, I know Pro Bowl games. Yeah yeah, yeah,

687
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: that's Tonsil should not be one of them. The guards,

688
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: Quentin Nelson, Joe Thuney, Tray Smith, Quinn Miners didn't go.

689
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: Quinn Miners did not make it.

690
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: I think he's the best guard in the league. Yeah

691
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: he did not make it. Wow, Okay, this is that

692
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: the centers, Creed Humphrey, Tyler, Linderbaum.

693
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: So I think people know this, but especially Interiro lineman

694
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: so many times, like Minors is a perfect example.

695
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: He should go, and then they have no stats, they

696
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: have no stats.

697
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: It takes him a year before they actually get in,

698
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: and then sometimes they hang around a year or two

699
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 4: too long. Like Nelson's not one of the top three

700
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: or four guards in the league right at this moment. Now,

701
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: you know, he's kind of there in name. I would

702
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: have taken Fraser over Linderbaum. By the way, Yeah, I

703
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: think he's a better player. I was just for reference.

704
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: I was listening to Brandon Thorn and Duke Merriweather did

705
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: there these are.

706
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: My offensive lineman experts, experts.

707
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm experts.

708
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: Many weather is people go pay him to go to

709
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: his you know, the professional lineman go to his camp

710
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: and his instruction, and they went through their Pro Bowl

711
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: offensive line team. They went three deep. You know, just

712
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: who's my third left tackle? Zach Fraser was their number

713
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: two center. Yeah, they had Linderbaum as our three, but

714
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: they said Fraser is Creed Humphreys won and Frasers two.

715
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: Even with the miss time.

716
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: On the defensive side of the ball, your ends, Miles Garrett,

717
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Trey Henderson, Max Crosby, Okay, your defensive tackles, Cam Hayward,

718
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: Chris Jones, nom the Metabuke. I feel like there's somebody, Yeah,

719
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: the guy in Denver.

720
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's bad. I assume Benito is going to be

721
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: called a linebacker.

722
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Yes, like what I hate that part too, but Alan absolutely,

723
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: Zack Allen has had a He's knocking on the door

724
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: with those topics, Zach Allen or Josh Allen. Zach, Yeah,

725
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: he's He's been better than Matabuke.

726
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: Yes, he's been better than maybe every defensive tackle except

727
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: those other.

728
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: Two outside linebackers, Nick Benito, t J Watt, Khalil Mack.

729
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: That's quality. I got no problem with that.

730
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: Inside middle linebackers ro Kwan Smith and Zayer Franklin.

731
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm with you no and no.

732
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: So we talked a lot of Ravens week and I

733
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: didn't know this then. By note now we talked about

734
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: all the changes that the Ravens have made in terms

735
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: of Simpson got benched and Humphrey's going to slot and

736
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: you know, we know all the different role changes. Well,

737
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: one of the things they did was they only let

738
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: Roquand call the defense for the front seven now because

739
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: he wasn't doing it well, you know, like that's part

740
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: of your job. You're the green dot guy. He didn't

741
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: handle he handled all the eleven calls until they made

742
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: those changes because he wasn't doing it well. You know,

743
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: Andy hasn't had a great year. And plus Franklin's just

744
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: a tackle now you're Franklin. Whoever the Colts scorer is

745
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: hands out tackles.

746
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: The NFL and the NFL put out a tweet today

747
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: on the ex twitter zire Franklin's needs or can can

748
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: zaire Franklin lead the league in tackles? Well, first of all, NFL,

749
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: you don't recognize tax as an official statistic. You don't,

750
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: So why are are you pumping this up as something

751
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: that you look at because you don't recognize it? Yeah, yeah,

752
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: because you understand the league understands.

753
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: That every it's willy nilly, right, willy nilly, Yeah.

754
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: That every scorekeeper in every different stadium looks at it differently. Yeah,

755
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: you can't tell me that the Colts have five of

756
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: the of the league's top ten tacklers and they're not

757
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Paden stats.

758
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: Like, Leonard was a great player, but he was always

759
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: the top of the league. And then the linebacker next

760
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: to Hi, whoever it was, was always like right behind

761
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: him too.

762
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: It's an awful defense, right, and you're making them downfield and.

763
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, he's a he's a fine player, he's a starter,

764
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: but he's he's not just one of the top two

765
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: linebackers in the.

766
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: It's one of the weaker positions, especially in the AFC.

767
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there scanning the league right now. The two

768
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: that should be on there ahead of him, for sure

769
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: are Brooks, the former first round pick who's now a Dolphin,

770
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: Jordan Brooks, and.

771
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: What's his face? The Chargers young pup.

772
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: I always forget his name, but he's a really good

773
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: player too, first year guy or second year.

774
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Guy anyway, Yeah, I have to look that up.

775
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: At cornerback, Okay, Derek Stingley, Good, Patrick Certain good, Marlon Humphrey, Denzel.

776
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Ward pretty solid. Yeah, I'm cool with that.

777
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: Free safety is make of Fitzpatrick Ross Gardner has not

778
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: had that kind of year, that's for sure. The strong

779
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: safety on Henley's name trying to get from the Chargers. Sorry,

780
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: The strong safety is Kyle Hamilton and Derwin James.

781
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: Darwin's back to playing well.

782
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: Long snapper Ross Mattesic from the Jaguars, the punter Logan

783
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: Cook from the Jaguars, a Lot Boswell, the place kicker

784
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: returned specialist Marvin mems and the special teams player Brent

785
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: Schooler from the New England.

786
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: Patriots, killerbre who's gotten that before.

787
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: Here's my issue with this whole thing. The team that

788
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: led all teams in the NFL in special in Pro

789
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: Bowl votes or Pro Bowl players. Yea, the Baltimore nine.

790
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: Nine. So who were they? There was Lamar?

791
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: You got Henry, Henry Ricard, Zay Flowers, Linderbaum, Matta Bouquet,

792
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: Rokwan Smith, Marlin Humphrey, and Kyle Hamilton. Okay, so I

793
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: would say one of those guys is widely being considered

794
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: the MVP of the league. Lamar Jackson right, maxx Right, Okay,

795
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: how in the hell do you lose five games if

796
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: you've got nine Pro bowlers you got you got four

797
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: more Pro Bowlers than the Detroit Lions. You got like

798
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: five more Pro Bowlers than the Kansas City Chiefs. Your

799
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: guys supposed to be the MVP of the league, Josh Allen.

800
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: The Bills have two and one of them Josh Allen,

801
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: and people are questioning who the.

802
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: MVP of the league is. They have Dawkins.

803
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: Dean Dawkins is the only other right tackle should.

804
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: Have went now I'm thinking about it too. He definitely

805
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 2: should have gone. He's the only have gone.

806
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: If I'm voting on the MVP award, I'm looking at

807
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: this one, okay. And you'll have Steeler fans who will

808
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: tell you, tell you with a straight face that John

809
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: Harbaugh is a better coach than Mike Tomlin.

810
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: I think he's got a better roster than the Bills

811
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: or Steeler.

812
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: That's what we're saying here. He's got nine Pro Bowl players,

813
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: including a guy who's two time MVP and Mike win

814
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: it again this year, and they've got five losses.

815
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I get it.

816
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 4: I mean it doesn't mean they should undefeated and the

817
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: rope bond's not playing like a Pro Bowl or and

818
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: I don't think Jay Flowers is a Pro Bowler.

819
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: And I mean, I.

820
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: See what you're saying. But they made it. I see

821
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: what you're saying. I mean, their roster's phenomenal and should be.

822
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, are you implying that they underachieved this year.

823
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's one or the other. Either they underachieved

824
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 3: or they shouldn't have had nine Pro Bowls?

825
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: Which one? Is it?

826
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: Right? Right?

827
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: Right? Right? And it's probably somewhere in between.

828
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: And is is Lamar really the MVP based on having

829
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 3: nine Pro Bowl players on your roster, including one, two, three,

830
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: four five on offense?

831
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark Andrews probably wasn't far off. I'm not sure

832
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: that he had a worse yeah than Kelsey. Yeah, I'm

833
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: trying to think who else went? You know, I get

834
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: your point. I mean, and you could.

835
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: Make a I mean I would I you could probably

836
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: make a stronger argument for the left tackle Ronnie Stanley

837
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: making this list.

838
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the tackles that did go wasn't great. Yeah,

839
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: forget who it was then Matta Bouquet.

840
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed and Andrews. I think it's in that category. Two.

841
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 4: I still think Lamar is neck and neck with Alan,

842
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: and I said this last time we were on the air.

843
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: I would still pick Alan.

844
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: I think he's if I'm if I'm voting and I'm

845
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: looking at this, I'm going, well, Alan did a hell

846
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: of a lot more with less.

847
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: He did, and I think that's undeniable. I mean, I

848
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: think there's no question about that. I don't know that.

849
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: This has been a disappointing year for the Ravens.

850
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: So not yet, right, I mean, they lost to the Raiders,

851
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: they lost to the Browns. People want to kill Mike

852
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Tomlin for losing to then, Well so did these guys?

853
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: Just curious what team was the second most.

854
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: I believe it was in the NFC, and maybe the

855
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: Lions had seven, the Vikings had six, Eagles had six,

856
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: Kansas City had five, Dallas.

857
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: Had five, Dallas had five.

858
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: Parsons go must have I can yeah, buzz through the

859
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: NFC here real quick. Uh So looking at the n.

860
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: NFC quarterbacks, aren't it pretty pretty bleak, pretty light?

861
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

862
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: Over in the NFC you got let's see here, flip

863
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 3: on me here, NFC you got quarterbacks Jared Goff, Jade

864
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: and Daniel Sam Darnold.

865
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 2: Those are the three. Okay.

866
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: Baker's probably kind of not happy about it, but I

867
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: get it.

868
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: Uh, running back, you got Saquon Barkley, Jamiir Gibbs, Josh Jacobs.

869
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Hard argue with that, okay.

870
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: Karen Williams would have a pretty good argument.

871
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, those three are all deserving, though I don't think

872
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 4: any of them are.

873
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: Miss b Jhon Robinson. Jon should be in the top three. Yeah.

874
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: Uh, fullback is of course, Kyle, you check Hall of Future,

875
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer apparently. Wide receiver Justin Jefferson, A Mon Ross,

876
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: Saint Brown, Ceed Lamb and Terry McLaurin.

877
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 4: Pretty good group. I mean, Mike Evans has a shot.

878
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: I mean there's other miss.

879
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: Time tight end George Kittle, Trey McBride.

880
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Kittle's had the best year of any

881
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: tight end.

882
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: Offensive tackles Lane Johnson, Pinasul, Tristan Wurfs. It's home runs

883
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: two right tackles though. Yeah that offensive guard Landon Dickerson,

884
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, Chris Linstrom.

885
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

886
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: The centers are Frank Ragnow and Cam Jurgens.

887
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll take that that's fine. It's not great, but fine.

888
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: Defensively Nick Bosa defensive end Nick Bosa, Micah Parsons, were

889
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: Shawn Gary Parsons A d n too.

890
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 4: Been awesome since he's been back, but he doesn't played

891
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: many games in tier.

892
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: He your alignement Jalen Carter, Dexter, Lawrence Vida VEYA.

893
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: Vey has had a much better year than people realize.

894
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 3: Outside backers Jonathan greenerd Andrew van Ginkel, Jared Vers Okay,

895
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: Van Ginkles put up crazy numbers. Middle linebacker Fred Warner,

896
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Zach Bond good.

897
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad Bob made it.

898
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: Cornerbacks Jayalen Johnson, Byron Murphy, j C. Horn, Devin Witherspoon.

899
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: Good group.

900
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: Okay, Free safety, some snubs are missing, but I don't

901
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: think any of these names are horrible.

902
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: Free safety is Xavier McKinney. Yeah, strong safety. I don't

903
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: know how they decipher between free and strong anymore. That's

904
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: a little tough.

905
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Defense in general can be a little gray.

906
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: Buddha Baker and Brian Branch.

907
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with those guys. I mean, if they

908
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: do it all.

909
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: Long snapper Andrew DePaolo from the Vikings, Punter Jack Fox

910
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: from the Lions. He never has to punt. Yeah, placekicker

911
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey, returned specialist Cavante Turpin, and specially.

912
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: Team the Cowboys are coming in those yeah yeah, yeah, and.

913
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: Then the special teamer caderill High from the Atlanta Falcons.

914
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I got much comment on the specialists

915
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 4: other than Aubrey and Turpin. Those two are very deserving

916
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: in the NFC. Yeah, that's where all the Cowboys came in.

917
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

918
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's where we're at.

919
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: But again, I'm sure there's a lot of snubs that

920
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: I need to dig into, but it's always an inexact science,

921
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: to say the least.

922
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you think Mica Fitzpatrick was having a bad season,

923
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: the coaches and players in the league would disagree.

924
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 4: I wonder too, like did Ravens fans come out more

925
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: than any other you know, like they is that something that.

926
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: They're doing They do that every year? Okay, they were

927
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: one of the most heavy lead over to them. Yeah,

928
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: between them and Alliance, and that's why they ended up

929
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: with seven each.

930
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: So that's something that happened to year after year though,

931
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: that they vote heavier than most fan bases. Yeah, Okay,

932
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: so you.

933
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: Gotta work harder at that Steeler fans. Anyways, let's get

934
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am

935
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the

936
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with

937
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: more right after this.

938
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: At least.

939
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

940
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

941
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

942
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

943
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and you're listening to the Drive here

944
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. And of course you can

945
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: hear the Drive every Monday through Friday from four to

946
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: six pm. And we will continue this throughout the playoffs.

947
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, we'll let you know we're not going to

948
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: be doing five days a week, but for the time being,

949
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: it looks like five days a week from now until

950
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: the starter free agency, and by that time we'll be

951
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 3: talking all kinds of draft stuff.

952
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: At that point, we're going to Senior Bowl. We got

953
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff on tap Senior Bowl. We always

954
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: do the combine. Yeah, Georgia's meetings, Georgia Notre Dame's going

955
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: on as we speak. I mean, there's draft stuff going

956
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: on around the world too, so kind of like to

957
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: dig in this draft.

958
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Matt. We're getting some more clarity on who's in

959
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: and who's out this weekend. It looks like Josh Allen

960
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: is going to start the game because he's got a

961
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: he's got a streak a streak going, so they're going

962
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: to play their guys and get him the heck out

963
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: of there. Also hearing news out of New England that

964
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: there's a potential that they're back up the kid out

965
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: of Florida from last year. Oh yeah, Tennessee. I'm sorry Milton, Yeah, yeah, Milton.

966
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: He did some good things in the preseason. He's been

967
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: running with the ones a little bit this week because

968
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: I guess, uh, you know, there May's taking them.

969
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: May's banged up. Yeah, I would not.

970
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: If there's anything wrong with May, and I bet there's

971
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: six things wrong with them. With the punishment he's taken.

972
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: And you get to see him, I mean, maybe somebody

973
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: offers you a pick for Milton or you know whatever.

974
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's that. There's reports reports out of Cleveland

975
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 3: that Bailey ZAPPI.

976
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, get to start too. So no wonder the line

977
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: is where it is, it's moved up to nineteen. I say,

978
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: it's probably going up.

979
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: How about this, I saw this. Somebody put this out

980
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 3: that when Cleveland went to sixteen a few years ago,

981
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: at no point where they more than a thirteen point underdog.

982
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: So this is even big by those standards, I assume.

983
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like, does Miles Garrett play.

984
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's trying to win the you know, he's

985
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: got to win the sack title for the first time

986
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: in his career.

987
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he has two bad feet and he has

988
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: a broken collarbone. But it's all about I mean, maybe

989
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: they's put him out there like on third eights or something.

990
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

991
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're that's what I heard today. I

992
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: know he's got both feet, needs some sort of surgical

993
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: attention too. He's got all kinds of stuff going on.

994
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when you I don't know, watching hard

995
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: far obviously from the sack leader. He's tied he and

996
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: Henryshem Patterson both at fourteen. Yeah, low year. It is

997
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: a low year, very.

998
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: Much because everybody's getting the ball out quickly and a

999
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: lot of guys have gotten hurt too and miss time. Yeah,

1000
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: Hutchinson was letting the lead, you know.

1001
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Saquon Barkley, uh, not going to an opportunity to

1002
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: break the all time rushing record.

1003
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 4: That kind of mixed feelings about it. I mean, there

1004
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: are things in this lifetime that are historic that you

1005
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: should just try for, you know what I mean. And

1006
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: it's also probably not the smart move. I mean, because

1007
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: if you're going to do that, that means Lane Johnson's

1008
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: playing in a lota and.

1009
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, he needs one hundred yards too.

1010
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: It's not like he needs not thirty or forty right

1011
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: right right, like he can get him out of there

1012
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: after the first quarter.

1013
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: And unlike some records, he set a nice milestone just

1014
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: last week too. We hit two thousands. Pretty special year.

1015
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: Some people are like, oh, well, he didn't do it

1016
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: in sixteen games. Here's the thing.

1017
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: We had two thousand.

1018
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: He had forty less carries than Dickerson had in his

1019
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: when he broke it in sixty or set the record

1020
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: in sixteen games. Brou has forty fewer carries.

1021
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise me.

1022
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: It's run heavy as the league was back then, and

1023
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 4: the Eagles of the run heaviest team in the league.

1024
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and still well he doesn't get any of those

1025
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: the short yardage stuff and all that. Yeah, how many

1026
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: how many more yards would he have if they just

1027
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: third and one from the fifty let's give it the saque.

1028
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: Maybe he busted for fifty yard he would have the

1029
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: you know, he'd probably be a lot closer to the

1030
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: record right now.

1031
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 4: Maybe if I were the head coach, I probably would

1033
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: have went, Heyquon, how important is this to you? You know,

1034
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: and he'd have to make a pretty strong case for

1035
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: me to put him out there.

1036
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: I would also ask the offensive line, Hey, offensive line,

1037
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: how important is this to you? Guys?

1038
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: Gonna be my next question? Yeah, and then you bring

1039
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: it it's important to them too.

1040
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that, you know, like Dickerson's line was

1041
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: super proud of it, as they should be, and all

1042
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: those things too.

1043
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I get both sides. I do too.

1044
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you certainly don't want Saquon Barkley to get hurt,

1045
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: because you know, if it would be a little bit

1046
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: different if you already had a buy, if you were

1047
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: the number one seed, Oh, then I think I think

1048
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: you'd go for it, Yeah, because then you'd have a

1049
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: week off the rest. As long as he doesn't tear

1050
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: his a cl or something like that. You you know,

1051
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: he's probably a good chance even if he springs an ankle,

1052
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: he's gonna be out there.

1053
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: So I assume they're sitting everyone.

1054
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean as many as you can.

1055
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Does m key start They even mentioned that stuff.

1056
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 3: I would assume so because Kenny Pickt's hurt.

1057
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, that's terrible. By the way, that's what

1058
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: you're that's what you're looking at. The J Brown goes

1059
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: out there or you know a lot of those guys.

1060
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: How about this last one for the hour here, Dan

1061
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 3: Campbell said that the game this week against the Vikings,

1062
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: while important, it's not. It's not like it's a playoff

1063
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 3: game or something. You can't have it both ways, Dan, Yeah,

1064
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: because you treated last week's game against the forty nine

1065
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: ers like it was a playoff game. Now you're selling, well,

1066
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: if we lose this game, it's not the end of

1067
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: the world. It isn't, but it kind of is. Because

1068
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: you dropped to the five seed. Now you're gonna have

1069
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: to go on the road throughout the entire playoffs.

1070
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: I was to say, this is a substantial loss, especially

1071
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: if you're them. I mean, you've been on top of

1072
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: the season long you were a final four team and

1073
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: really them in the vikings are exact same spot, and

1074
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: but the perception is different, you know, absolutely, Yeah, I

1075
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: mean one was expected to this is this is Carl

1076
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: Lewis leading the race the whole way around, and then

1077
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: somebody comes up with the final kick, a closing kick

1078
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: and beat you.

1079
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe because you pushed you hard. Except you don't

1080
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: get a sil you fall to fifth. You don't get

1081
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: a medal at all, right, and there's no guarantee they

1082
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: win in Tampa, No, I mean after a loss and

1083
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: you got to go right away and you've had a

1084
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: bye forever. Like I would probably bet on the Bucks

1085
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: plus seven and a half at home or whatever against

1086
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: the Lions in round one.

1087
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: That's huge, huge game. Yeah.

1088
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he can try to downplay it as

1089
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: much as he wants to his team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not his style either. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: he's coaching on both sides of the mouth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind kind of a strange one.

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Speaker 4: But I really respect him as a coach. But I

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Speaker 4: still think he's peddled the medal too much. I think

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Speaker 4: that we'll see if it comes back to Burham.

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Speaker 3: They have never or I should say since the nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy merger. The Detroit Lions have not won back to

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Speaker 3: back division championships in their hit since.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not surprising. That's really terrible. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean division has been good, but it hasn't been

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Speaker 2: phenomenal either.

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Speaker 3: I mean you hit the Packers for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but I mean, like over the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl era, I wouldn't say it's the best division out there.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't a tree at level.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was a Viking Vikings in the seventies, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then the Packers got good in the

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Speaker 3: late eighties.

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Speaker 2: Bears were good, but they had a lot of down

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Speaker 2: years too. Yeah you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's the Bears, the Bears, the Bears history. If

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Speaker 3: you throw out all the Papa Bear Hallis stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty bleak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty bad. I mean, if it's not for

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Speaker 2: the DIA, then that was only they won.

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Speaker 3: They won one Super Bowl. People talk about that like

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Speaker 3: it was it was some kind of you know, dynasty.

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Speaker 2: They won one. Like all their all their Hall of

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Speaker 2: Famers since the Hallis era were on those teams.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I mean so anyways, let's get to

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Speaker 3: a break. That's going to do it for our number

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Speaker 3: one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: Matt Now, I'll be back with our number two right

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Speaker 3: after this