Speaker 1: Earlier in the year. I was like, you know, we
Speaker 1: went to a commercial or practices and like, hey, TV,
Speaker 1: Like I know you don't know me well yet, but
Speaker 1: like is that cool? Like can I tell you if
Speaker 1: something sucks or whatever? He's like, yes, Like please tell me,
Speaker 1: like coach me up. I was like, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Like so he just he just wants to be great,
Speaker 1: he wants to be better, And I think that's been
Speaker 1: the really fun part.
Speaker 2: Calm Down with Erin and Carissa is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: All Right, Here we go with part two with our
Speaker 2: favorite Kevin Burkhart.
Speaker 3: We talked to him about.
Speaker 2: Working with Tom Brady and being his personal photographer. Whope
Speaker 2: he's getting paid for that, and why keV doesn't have
Speaker 2: a five year plan and apparently, Carissa, he has a
Speaker 2: database as a data no tea a database? What does
Speaker 2: all that mean? And is it dirty?
Speaker 3: keV?
Speaker 2: Is there I mean probably a game winning obviously played Touchdow.
Speaker 2: Is there a certain scenario you dream about calling you
Speaker 2: live for you love when that moment happens in a game?
Speaker 2: Is there a certain thing that you're.
Speaker 1: Like, I I just love I love big plays, I
Speaker 1: just love I get so excited, like you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes too over the top excited, but I just
Speaker 1: I'm into it, like I'm into it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just it's like the thrill that I had watched in
Speaker 1: the NFL as a kid, Like I still get like
Speaker 1: so juiced and jacked and my calls and it's not
Speaker 1: made up, it's not fake. So I just, you know,
Speaker 1: give me a good forty five year past deep deep
Speaker 1: down the field. I'm all about it, and I go,
Speaker 1: probably go a little bit too nuts, but that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of my style. I mean, that's kind of that's
Speaker 1: that's the way I've always been.
Speaker 2: You do, There's you know, so many like when you
Speaker 2: growing up, right, we all wanted to do our respective
Speaker 2: jobs from the time when were little kids, right, We all,
Speaker 2: I know have shared this sentiment of how grateful we
Speaker 2: feel because it came to fruition. Did you growing up though,
Speaker 2: did you have did you listen into certain guys in
Speaker 2: the way that you know, you've got your own style now,
Speaker 2: but growing up, who were guys that you listened to
Speaker 2: or idolized and thought I wish I could be them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think there was a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we we love football in our house, so
Speaker 1: like you know, it was definitely Summer all on Madden.
Speaker 1: You know, we're so big and and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different local guys in New York who I grew
Speaker 1: up by, like a lot of like the Mets guys
Speaker 1: like Bob Murphy and Gary Cohen is still there and
Speaker 1: does an amazing job. And so I wouldn't say there's
Speaker 1: anybody that I copied. I just tried to listen, like there,
Speaker 1: I was so terrible at playing sports, but I loved it,
Speaker 1: and so I always like just took notice of the
Speaker 1: announcers and what their styles were and how they did it.
Speaker 1: And you know, when I got this job, I mean
Speaker 1: I talk way more than Pat Summer, all of those.
Speaker 1: But I always try to think, like, okay, like in
Speaker 1: a big moment, you know, what would Pat do, Like
Speaker 1: how would he handle a moment like that? Just to
Speaker 1: try and like take a breath and you know, be
Speaker 1: regal and be big enough for the game, if that
Speaker 1: makes any sense. So I wouldn't say that I beat
Speaker 1: off anyone. I would say there's just like little bits
Speaker 1: and pieces that I have taken, Like you know, I think,
Speaker 1: like you know, just growing up listening to al Michael's
Speaker 1: like some of the cadence of how he kind of
Speaker 1: smooths in an at of calls. I think subconsciously, I'll
Speaker 1: do that, and that's, you know, because he's obviously amazing.
Speaker 1: So just like little things like that of just looking
Speaker 1: up people, respecting people, obviously watching Joe for all these
Speaker 1: years and how amazing he is and still is obviously,
Speaker 1: so just yeah, but I'd like to think that I
Speaker 1: kind of crafted my own way from all those little tidbits.
Speaker 1: I never was saying. You know, when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be Chris Berman, rightfully, so right, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was no one was bigger than Boomer, but like
Speaker 1: I always tried to be like, Okay, Boomer's awesome, but
Speaker 1: like maybe I could, maybe I could learn from this
Speaker 1: and try to piece it together. So I you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was probably a little bit of a
Speaker 1: lot of people in the way I do it too.
Speaker 2: I think, what a lot of people don't understand about
Speaker 2: your job? And I've written seventeen questions for you? Is
Speaker 2: that lovely? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many, so much.
Speaker 2: But we call her affectionately on this podcast Nosy Rosie
Speaker 2: with her legal pad and her pen. She's always Johnny
Speaker 2: notes down, Nosy, Rosie's on the case.
Speaker 3: I am, but.
Speaker 1: I just d did you get this one? I just
Speaker 1: got this in the mail because I feel good about it.
Speaker 1: I'm excited.
Speaker 3: It gives me the shakes.
Speaker 2: No, I got they got no cards off that. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, any of this current should probably.
Speaker 1: It's from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Oops, crazy, we are a couple.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a really great article.
Speaker 2: It was the last Super Bowl Kevin called Charissa, not
Speaker 2: the new one. Updates for San Francisco this weekend. They're
Speaker 2: hurt and they canceled joint practices. We'll have more after
Speaker 2: the break with Chris and Julian. Great, that's all the
Speaker 2: time Julian and I will have for our pre game.
Speaker 2: So that's okay. Wait so you played? Wait?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: That is the best time ever. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm going to derail Aaron's her questions for one second
Speaker 2: because one of the funniest things Aaron brought to my
Speaker 2: attention was me doing these fucking in game updates and
Speaker 2: my late night wait till.
Speaker 3: We tell Brady about him? Where we go?
Speaker 2: My late night voice that I didn't realize I was doing,
Speaker 2: but what she called attention to it. For anyone that
Speaker 2: doesn't know what I'm talking about. I do these in
Speaker 2: game updates of highlights. So they'll toss to me in
Speaker 2: the studio from wherever they're at, and keV who and
Speaker 2: Greg at the time, Tom doesn't know who I am.
Speaker 3: It's fine, but they'll do it to me. They'll throw it.
Speaker 2: To me, and they're always so generous whenever they throw it.
Speaker 2: And there was like fun banter back and forth. Okay, whatever,
Speaker 2: But I had a voice that Aaron pointed out that
Speaker 2: was like sensual. I didn't realize I was doing it,
Speaker 2: so then I tried to go the complete other end
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: The next time I did a highlight and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, okay, some good like I
Speaker 2: tried to sound like I don't know, like a twelve
Speaker 2: year old girl that was like anything but sensual.
Speaker 3: And threw it back to having like Kevin and then
Speaker 3: that became a joke. So anyways, the in game it
Speaker 3: was a highlight of my Sunday.
Speaker 1: Oh it was like Taylor Heinek he hits Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: and it's fourteen nothing commanders. Kevin take it away like
Speaker 1: I forgot where I was for a second, like hang
Speaker 1: on and then and then after of course that was
Speaker 1: brought to the attention on this podcast the next week.
Speaker 1: It was like, here's Taylor, how dick you find Sarah McLaurin,
Speaker 1: It's fourteen nothing Commanders. I was like, is there like
Speaker 1: a is there like a happy medium in there? For then?
Speaker 1: And of course, like the best part is like now
Speaker 1: I give it right. The best part is I give
Speaker 1: it right back to you. And we just have so much.
Speaker 1: I'm so depressed, like when something happens where like you
Speaker 1: get it back and a blaze already in motion that
Speaker 1: I can't have a comment or like just a little
Speaker 1: subtle like inside joke back to you. I get so
Speaker 1: funned when I can't do that.
Speaker 2: The best God Anyways, that just also shows what a
Speaker 2: professional you are to go back and forth between the
Speaker 2: two personalities. I have multiple personalities. It depends on which
Speaker 2: one's coming out that Sunday. Anyways, Aaron, back to the
Speaker 2: originally scheduled program, what question is you Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted to know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you brought a couple of great guys in
Speaker 2: and out of the booth. Lynchy babes, John Lynch and
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen, you've literally had to be their bob o,
Speaker 2: their mentor their teacher up there. Give me something you've
Speaker 2: learned from both Lynchy and Greg.
Speaker 1: Well, from John, I mean a lot from both of them,
Speaker 1: first of all, but I mean, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of just learning, I think it's always about learning, like
Speaker 1: the style. So obviously I've learned a ton of football
Speaker 1: from both of them because they're both amazing and personal.
Speaker 1: But I think, like I think, okay, Like for from John,
Speaker 1: he gave me a good lesson early and that you know,
Speaker 1: this is my first EV play by play job. I
Speaker 1: was a radio guy before that, and early he's like KB,
Speaker 1: He's like, do me a favorite, like when it's like
Speaker 1: a key spot, don't ask me a question to paint
Speaker 1: me into a corner because I might want to go
Speaker 1: in a different direction. And I was like, okay, great
Speaker 1: to know, Like I didn't. I didn't know that. So
Speaker 1: you're thinking John, like what does he call here? What
Speaker 1: play call does he call here? And it's like could
Speaker 1: be the worst possible thing because he's thinking about like
Speaker 1: something else and now he can't say that. So it
Speaker 1: was a great lesson, Like I took that into everything
Speaker 1: like on TV, and I never do that anymore, but
Speaker 1: that particular thing. So like little things like that, just
Speaker 1: like on their style and with Greg, I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing I could say about Greg is, well, I
Speaker 1: know I have to fix his tie at some point
Speaker 1: during the game before we go on camera. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: You know. There was never a game where there's not
Speaker 1: like we're about Usually it's like halftime, I'll just kind
Speaker 1: of reach over and give you a little this and
Speaker 1: I'll just take a swipe of the.
Speaker 3: Hair tamate.
Speaker 1: Like we're like. The thing is, He's just what I
Speaker 1: love about him like doing games is we'll get in
Speaker 1: like those key moments and we'll let's say like two
Speaker 1: minute warning whatever, and it's a close game and I
Speaker 1: see him he's kind of like frothing at the mouth.
Speaker 1: He's like ready, he's got so much to say, and
Speaker 1: he's like, so grab me on the shoulder.
Speaker 3: Like you know with his paws.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's like we got to talk about like I
Speaker 1: got you, but I got you. I know, I know
Speaker 1: exactly what you want to do. And so like we
Speaker 1: get back and as soon as I can, I would
Speaker 1: just like set him up as quick as possible because
Speaker 1: he was so excited to break it down, and he
Speaker 1: broke those moments down so amazing. But it was cool.
Speaker 1: It was almost like like a little kid, like the
Speaker 1: Christmas present is right there, but don't touch it. Don't
Speaker 1: touch it until, like Santa says, and it's like okay,
Speaker 1: you can open It's like and you go and open it,
Speaker 1: and like you'd say something brilliant about what's to come.
Speaker 1: So like those are like the two examples of how
Speaker 1: like different analysts can operate a little differently.
Speaker 2: That explain if you can, because there's so many people,
Speaker 2: the majority in ninety nine point nine percent of people
Speaker 2: will never know what it's like to be in a
Speaker 2: booth during a game, calling a game, even just being
Speaker 2: there as a spectator, but let alone calling a game.
Speaker 2: Describe if you can't, and it's maybe it's a big ass,
Speaker 2: but just when you're up in that booth a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes before game time, just sort of the sights
Speaker 2: and the sounds and what you're doing to sort of
Speaker 2: give people access behind that proverbial curtain that they probably
Speaker 2: won't ever get.
Speaker 1: You know, I think, look at the biggest thing I'll
Speaker 1: give you two perspectives, so it's not just like a
Speaker 1: boring answer. The biggest thing is just it's such a
Speaker 1: team effort, like everybody working together, you know in the booth,
Speaker 1: got my spotter and my stack guy helping you just
Speaker 1: with stuff, and they know what I want and things
Speaker 1: that I need or maybe things that I'm not good
Speaker 1: at during the broadcast, Like you know, Mitch, my spotter knows,
Speaker 1: like like we'll talk certain uniforms. I'm like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: having a hard time seeing in the eighties on these uniforms,
Speaker 1: So can you help me, you know, with you know,
Speaker 1: like certain things like that. Or for example, if.
Speaker 2: Explain what a spotter is, because I don't think a
Speaker 2: lot of people have been known what the play is
Speaker 2: keV like for people listening to this, Yeah, good call.
Speaker 1: Spotter is someone who stands next to me and helps
Speaker 1: me identify things during a broadcast. So let's see, like
Speaker 1: if someone tips the ball at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: or he's showing me who's making these tackles, or for example,
Speaker 1: a good one in the Super Bowl a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, when Nick Bolton picked up that fumble ran
Speaker 1: in for touchdown. Now I knew it was Nick Bolton
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right off the bat, But just for
Speaker 1: a split second, I looked at him to make sure
Speaker 1: he had the same thing, because you don't want to
Speaker 1: mess up that call, right, Like, so it's like.
Speaker 2: Holy people don't get that. They don't understand that, especially
Speaker 2: for the biggest game, right keV.
Speaker 1: It's like insurance, like you know, you're trying to be
Speaker 1: right right, So you know, usually I see a lot,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's like it's the super Bowl, so
Speaker 1: like balls on the ground. I was like, that is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent Nick Bolton. So I, however, my call
Speaker 1: was you know, it's on the ground. And I looked
Speaker 1: at him and He's already pointing a Nick Bolt and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Nick Bolton And that all happen in
Speaker 1: a second. So it's like just having the extra set
Speaker 1: of eyes to help you. But usually, like I give
Speaker 1: him stuff like I watched like pregame warm ups and
Speaker 1: like he'll help me. That's another one I give you. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's a good one, like again, like how this helps.
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and Cavante Turpin for the Cowboys looked exactly
Speaker 1: the same on the field, and their numbers were like
Speaker 1: they if they turned a certain way, it was really
Speaker 1: hard to see who who was catching the ball, so
Speaker 1: I forget who it was. But one of them more
Speaker 1: like a blue sock, like one blue sock and the
Speaker 1: other one wore two white socks, so he like found that.
Speaker 1: And then every time they played, I watched and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's got a blue sock on. So
Speaker 1: as soon as it's like the ball is in the ere,
Speaker 1: I knew who it was. So it's like little tricks
Speaker 1: of the trade like that. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: is really it's just I think I don't think people realize,
Speaker 1: like with Aaron and with you, Chris, so when you
Speaker 1: did it, how much banner goes on the stuff that's
Speaker 1: not on the air, Like Aaron is talking to us
Speaker 1: all the time, and we're talking to her and she's
Speaker 1: listening to us, and like, guys like this, just so
Speaker 1: you know, you were talking about this. This is going
Speaker 1: on like on the field, and we're like, oh wow, interesting,
Speaker 1: and then our camera guys will go get it and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, well, eron, you do it like I
Speaker 1: want you to describe it, and like so it's like
Speaker 1: there's oldest banter like kind of talking about storylines and things,
Speaker 1: but you can't see all of it by yourself. There's
Speaker 1: so much going on.
Speaker 3: Well, you're such a generous crew, you guys.
Speaker 2: People don't because I just, yeah, I just want anyone
Speaker 2: that's out there listening. It's not always the case to
Speaker 2: have someone like Kevin or Greg the last few years.
Speaker 2: When you get a very beautiful group like that, everyone
Speaker 2: works in harmony and in the same as said for
Speaker 2: the players on the field, I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, when teams function as a team instead of
Speaker 2: as a bunch of individuals, it's an awesome thing to watch,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, to our benefit as viewers to
Speaker 2: be able to hear from all of you guys. I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, Ken, would you say the craziest? Was
Speaker 2: that the craziest game you've ever had? I was thinking
Speaker 2: when all this shit was happening at once the NFC Championship,
Speaker 2: when Perty went down with his arm, because there was
Speaker 2: so much shit happening at once from him, is he
Speaker 2: coming back?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: And then you know his backup goes down with a
Speaker 2: head injury. Is McCaffrey the backup? What's Mcca? I mean,
Speaker 2: I just felt like I couldn't imagine for you and
Speaker 2: for Richie's I once our producer just keeping it all
Speaker 2: together and kept recapping.
Speaker 1: It all, you know what er I think. I mean, Look,
Speaker 1: obviously the end result game wasn't competitive because of all
Speaker 1: that happened, and that sucked, But it was actually as
Speaker 1: far as like doing a broadcast, one of the most
Speaker 1: challenging but fun broadcastings I've ever done, because yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I thought we did a really good job, but there's
Speaker 1: so much going on and we're all like talking figuring out,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's next? Who's grabbing? Well, you're telling us,
Speaker 1: you know, Christian McCaffrey's got to gott a you know,
Speaker 1: bawl in the sand. Maybe he's gonna throw We're looking
Speaker 1: at it, like, so there's so much you're paying attention to,
Speaker 1: and it's like it was kind of cool and prideful
Speaker 1: following all that and being on top of it, like
Speaker 1: what is going to possibly happen next? So yeah, that
Speaker 1: was definitely up there for like a different kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: but in a way it was it was challenging and
Speaker 1: fun to kind of be on top of that because
Speaker 1: like we're just like everybody else. We don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on. We're just trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what these teams are doing. So the game, like
Speaker 1: the result wasn't wasn't great, but the actual all the
Speaker 1: stuff that happened was wild to Chase. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you there.
Speaker 2: And as we walked out of that game, we thought
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's coming to San Francisco and he's going to
Speaker 2: play with them next year, and now he's our teammate,
Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see, like how that goes
Speaker 2: for you up there. I mean, you've been in some
Speaker 2: practice games. You guys were practicing this weekend. I'm going
Speaker 2: to get the all the info from you when we
Speaker 2: get off here.
Speaker 3: But how's it going?
Speaker 2: Can you give people an idea of it?
Speaker 1: It's going really well, Like I mean, we've done a
Speaker 1: lot of work this year, you know, And I think
Speaker 1: the cool thing is is so much of this is
Speaker 1: just building chemistry, right. I Mean, you know, Aaron, you
Speaker 1: knew Tom and I knew him from a working relationship,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know him from a personal standpoint at all,
Speaker 1: And so getting to know who he is off the
Speaker 1: field and what makes him tick and things like that,
Speaker 1: is just as important to develop a chemistry in the
Speaker 1: booth really, like that's how it works. And so to me,
Speaker 1: that's been a really cool or rewarding process. The other
Speaker 1: thing that's been really really cool is he's you know,
Speaker 1: it's amazing for you know what he is, which is
Speaker 1: the greatest to ever do it. And then he's been
Speaker 1: so receptive to just coaching. Like there's times I'm like, TB,
Speaker 1: this was awesome, but like I can't do that, and
Speaker 1: you know, and then I'm like, who am I like you.
Speaker 3: To say, well, how long did it take you to
Speaker 3: jump in and be like that?
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people you wouldn't be this because
Speaker 2: of your relationship, but a lot of people would have
Speaker 2: trepidation about critiquing someone you know, in that position. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, but I guess it
Speaker 2: sounds like you're like, you have to if you guys
Speaker 2: want to be great together, you have to coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's just the way I am. And then
Speaker 1: you know, this is a point he was so early,
Speaker 1: like I don't know whenever this was earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, we went to a commercial
Speaker 1: one of our practices and like, hey, TV, Like I
Speaker 1: know you don't know me well yet, but like is
Speaker 1: that cool? Like can I tell you if something sucks
Speaker 1: or whatever. He's like, yes, like please tell me, like
Speaker 1: coach me up. I was like, that's pretty cool. Like
Speaker 1: so he just he just wants to be great, he
Speaker 1: wants to be better. And I think that's been the
Speaker 1: really fun part. I'll tell you one other thing I
Speaker 1: learned Aaron. You'll see this this week. Going to the field.
Speaker 1: It's going to require an extra three hours. It is
Speaker 1: like a circus just going downly weirdly in LA doing
Speaker 1: a practice game. And it was like it took us
Speaker 1: forty minutes just to get down like the elevator to
Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. And then it was like,
Speaker 1: I mean I had to take a selfie of he
Speaker 1: and Michaeh Porson's and Trayvon Diggs in the.
Speaker 3: Middle of Wow, that is awesome. That what a selfie?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean not a selfie. I had
Speaker 1: to take a picture. Like Micah came over, Hey, can
Speaker 1: you take a picture?
Speaker 3: That's cool?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 3: What are players reaction?
Speaker 2: So, I mean, yeah, you were just at the Rams Cowboys,
Speaker 2: I mean, what are guys doing because I remember Dak
Speaker 2: had said to me when it was announced, he was like,
Speaker 2: this is going to be cool to be on a
Speaker 2: call with him.
Speaker 3: What did you notice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, you know. I mean, honestly, it was
Speaker 1: so many people that just wanted to say hello and
Speaker 1: be a part of it. And you know, we spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time with the Jones family, which was cool,
Speaker 1: and just walking around different coaches and some people that
Speaker 1: Tom had been with on the Rams staff in New England.
Speaker 1: And we didn't actually get to talk to the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: because it was like one fifteen in the game was
Speaker 1: one thirty. It's like we got, we got, you know.
Speaker 1: So that is definitely a learning experience. We're going to
Speaker 1: take a little more time to go down the field
Speaker 1: earlier and just you know, but he actually enjoyed. I
Speaker 1: was like, was that cool. He's like yeah, He's like
Speaker 1: it was really really cool. So I think that's going
Speaker 1: to be fun eron gamey walking around with him and
Speaker 1: players want to talk to him and give him some information.
Speaker 1: So I think that's going to be a cool experience.
Speaker 3: That's so cool about my Travon. That's great.
Speaker 2: Aaron, what's your favorite thing about working with Kevin my
Speaker 2: work husband. He is never in even if he's rattled
Speaker 2: about something. Like you mentioned before, you don't see it.
Speaker 2: A lot of people, you know, don't realize this, and
Speaker 2: this is about our relationship. He's so great in terms
Speaker 2: of listening to everything I have. But I also, like
Speaker 2: Greg said when he on, I second guessed myself about
Speaker 2: maybe what the first thing I should focus on in
Speaker 2: a story, and and Kevin will listen to all of
Speaker 2: my ideas and then say, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, that's great, but what do you think about
Speaker 3: doing it this way?
Speaker 2: And you have this and and I'll just be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: And I'll text him in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: or ask him if I could go over it when
Speaker 2: we're doing our little walk around the field. Sounds like
Speaker 2: this year we won't have time with all the pictures
Speaker 2: we're going to be taking. Four Sorry, Tom, I'm done
Speaker 2: taking pictures. Kevin needs to listen to my first hit.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's just such a caring teammate and he's
Speaker 2: just he has a big enough job in the booth
Speaker 2: that he is so worried about what the rest of
Speaker 2: us have to do and how he can help, and
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for that. I'm grateful for his relationship
Speaker 2: and I'm really grateful he likes to have cocktails with
Speaker 2: me at TGI Fridays in that Dallas terminop because there's
Speaker 2: no one I like to have a Santa Margarita with
Speaker 2: by Thelita event.
Speaker 1: So I'm in park. I think you haven't hold it
Speaker 1: on this podcast before having you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we showed up.
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: It was Christmas time? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like was it Christmas Eve? I don't
Speaker 1: even know it was right around.
Speaker 2: Well, I want your advantage point back from this story,
Speaker 2: so you know, you set up the story and then
Speaker 2: let's give get Kevin's uh interpretation of what happened.
Speaker 3: Was this the rude guy? Was this the guy? Oh
Speaker 3: that was Christmas Eve?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This was just I think this was a round Christmas time.
Speaker 2: But listen, one really cool thing. We all hate traveling.
Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ass. But the cool thing
Speaker 2: about our group, our LA group, we are so tight.
Speaker 2: We know each other so well. We can do each
Speaker 2: other's orders. We can run and make a flight and
Speaker 2: get a burger and a drink, you know, without missing
Speaker 2: a beat. But yeah, we showed up at the TGI Fridays.
Speaker 2: We got a huge table and we were all ordering
Speaker 2: a cocktail and I said, I'll have the Santa Margarita.
Speaker 1: keV goes and I'm like, I'm looking at the mini
Speaker 1: figure out I want. Was like, is that a Christmas one?
Speaker 3: Drake? It was so good, so cute. Well I love it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, keV.
Speaker 2: You've done so much in your career, clearly, and it's
Speaker 2: really just getting started when you think about all the
Speaker 2: incredible stuff that you have in front of you. Looking
Speaker 2: back with baseball and football obviously so different. I've worked
Speaker 2: in both myself, and I would always go back and
Speaker 2: do baseball because it was the first sport that I
Speaker 2: got to cover. It was my first on air job,
Speaker 2: was working for the Rockies.
Speaker 3: But it's so different. One hundred and.
Speaker 2: Sixty to sixty three games and then it's like and
Speaker 2: then the postseason, it's like, that is such a different grind.
Speaker 2: The football is a grind, but condensed and much different.
Speaker 2: How would you describe your experience in baseball because you
Speaker 2: spent seven years right with the Mets. I did eight years.
Speaker 1: There and it's it's exhausting, it's it's quite honestly, when
Speaker 1: you're when you're doing a team and you're doing every game,
Speaker 1: it's just it's fun. It's great that time, but it
Speaker 1: is exhausting, like it's just there's nowhere. Let's put it
Speaker 1: this way. I and I know your time with Colorado
Speaker 1: when you were there, like you saw on firsthand too, right,
Speaker 1: But I am amazed, Like there were days I didn't
Speaker 1: even want to get out of bed, and I'm just
Speaker 1: talking for a living, Like I'm amazed at like getting
Speaker 1: back from a trip at four in the morning, and
Speaker 1: then you drive home and then you have a night
Speaker 1: game that night at home. I'm like, how are these
Speaker 1: guys playing and functioning? Like It's amazing what they do
Speaker 1: and how they keep their bodies in shape, play that
Speaker 1: every day, Like I I'm floored, like going through that
Speaker 1: with them and seeing how they do it.
Speaker 3: Such a good point.
Speaker 2: I always said I wanted to be a starting pitcher
Speaker 2: because I know I'm working every five days. These guys
Speaker 2: that are every single day players, I'm all, hell no,
Speaker 2: Like to your point, like or or having to play
Speaker 2: double headers or things like that because of rescheduling and
Speaker 2: all that. I have the utmost respect for baseball players
Speaker 2: and for people that we know that work, you know,
Speaker 2: still on that grind. Best piece of advice that or
Speaker 2: let me rephrase that, what's the best question that someone
Speaker 2: coming up in the business has asked you that You're like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's very insightful to ask a question like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I get a lot of them. I would
Speaker 1: say this, I this is me. Everybody is a little different.
Speaker 1: But I always tell you know, whether it's college kids
Speaker 1: or high school kids or whatever. I feel like, especially today,
Speaker 1: so many people are like, Okay, in five years, I
Speaker 1: got to be calling you know, the super Bowl, the
Speaker 1: World Series or the NBA Finals or whatever, and you know,
Speaker 1: in ten years, I got to be here. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: why do you do that to yourself? Because to me,
Speaker 1: and I know some people do do it and it
Speaker 1: works for them, but to me, like that just sets
Speaker 1: you up for failure because then in five years, if
Speaker 1: you're not doing exactly that, are you a failure? Like?
Speaker 1: Did you fail yourself? I always feel like I always
Speaker 1: tell so people will ask what's my goal? Where should
Speaker 1: I be in five years? I'm like, you should be
Speaker 1: hopefully enjoying what you're doing and hope getting better at
Speaker 1: your craft and hopefully climbing up the ladder like that's it.
Speaker 1: I because I just I just don't know, like how
Speaker 1: how you live up to that if you're not exactly
Speaker 1: where you think you're supposed to be in I mean,
Speaker 1: I have no idea where I'm going to be in
Speaker 1: five years. I mean, I hope I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: I love what I'm doing right now, and I'm so
Speaker 1: happy and I'm fortunate to be doing on right now.
Speaker 1: But I don't. I just never liked that you know,
Speaker 1: where do you want to be in five years or
Speaker 1: ten years? Question? I think it puts you into a box,
Speaker 1: and I think it's hard to get out of that.
Speaker 1: So when I get that question a lot, I say
Speaker 1: I would nix that thought and just work on being
Speaker 1: the best of you and get better. But again, I
Speaker 1: know people like that. I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much anxiety do you get if you don't
Speaker 2: get through your articles by like noon or one? Same
Speaker 2: explain for people that don't know what that means. Like
Speaker 2: your packet of articles that you guys get so we.
Speaker 1: Get, we get we get like a yeah, we get
Speaker 1: we get to think called sports scan. It's like a
Speaker 1: packet of articles, and you know we're obviously googling stuff
Speaker 1: and read articles all over the place anyway, And I
Speaker 1: have my own database that I staved stuff throughout the year. Database.
Speaker 1: Oh now they're talking, Oh yeah, you know, I mean listen,
Speaker 1: it's not like I started on like in television back
Speaker 1: in the day. You know, it's got a whole thing.
Speaker 3: Rachel's like, where's Dad. He's downstairs in the basement with
Speaker 3: his database. Database.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Database.
Speaker 1: There's like the giant idea, the big tape reels running
Speaker 1: behind me as I do it. No, I'm kidding the question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Margarita articles. How much anxiety you get if
Speaker 2: you don't get through your articles? But I want to
Speaker 2: make sure because we have a lot of different listeners, right.
Speaker 1: And they're like, it's like, well, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's a scan and you know, it depends on the
Speaker 1: teams that we have. But like let's say we're doing
Speaker 1: Dallas Philly, it might be eighty pages of article, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's like an eighty pace thing to read
Speaker 1: through all the articles written about those two teams. And
Speaker 1: so usually I get my morning coffee and I try
Speaker 1: to get on that, like I feel like I have
Speaker 1: an anxious thing if I don't finish it. And the
Speaker 1: other days, as you know, like stuff comes up, you're
Speaker 1: doing other stuff, maybe you got to run out, maybe
Speaker 1: like it's in the way. And then it's like I
Speaker 1: had dinner and I'm done with dinner and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm only on page forty. I gotta go back. What
Speaker 1: do I do? And I have to finish it like
Speaker 1: that night. Otherwise it's like it's dead to me. If
Speaker 1: I don't finish sports again that night, it's gone. It
Speaker 1: never existed. It's weird.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 1: Do you have the same thing?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I usually start sweating out of all areas and then
Speaker 2: I text you and I'm like, how far along are you?
Speaker 2: Did you finish today? This is what I get on
Speaker 2: the voice note. She leaves me. She's rambling about other things,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I gotta go finish my articles. It's
Speaker 2: always like my articles, my articles. It's like I get
Speaker 2: I get a twitch if I don't. Hey, I have
Speaker 2: some great news besides. In fact, we're going to let
Speaker 2: Kevin go. We're all going to be together this weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we are, Yes, yeah, we are. I
Speaker 2: forgot about that. It's already this weekend. Yeah, oh my,
Speaker 2: I've better read my articles. This is crazy. Find my articles.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be together, but only one of us is
Speaker 1: going to be on the air, so there's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then I better get my clip and extensions ready,
Speaker 2: keV in. In short and in closing, I just hope
Speaker 2: you know how much you are respected, not only by
Speaker 2: people that have never met you and listened to you,
Speaker 2: but first and foremost by two people that love you
Speaker 2: and consider you family and Aaron as she's affectionately referred
Speaker 2: to you multiple times in front of your wife as
Speaker 2: your work wife. We love you and thank you for
Speaker 2: being the absolute best.
Speaker 1: Seriously, I love you both an honor to be on
Speaker 1: the pod as a loyal fan and listener, and you're
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 2: You know, we're on our best behavior for you because
Speaker 2: we were. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, no, no.
Speaker 1: Save save the non best for Saturday night. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you go high angle with Mike? Interested worried?
Speaker 2: I'm worried about that photo you took. Was it high angle?
Speaker 2: Did you do multiple horizontal a You.
Speaker 1: Know, I gotta be honest. I usually only think high
Speaker 1: angle when Rachel is involmbed because you otherwise you'll get
Speaker 1: on me. This was I'm looking right now. It was
Speaker 1: a straight on like show us a picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, oh my god, wait, this is great. You
Speaker 3: took the picture with your what's Tom doing? Tom? Does
Speaker 3: he know he's taking a picture?
Speaker 1: That particular post is not good? It's fine? Is that? Dion?
Speaker 3: What's going on? Emitt Smith's doing that?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who that. I'm not sure who that
Speaker 1: man is. To be honest, I don't know. At that point.
Speaker 1: It was one sixteen when we were rehearsing in seven minutes,
Speaker 1: so I was trying to get him off the field.
Speaker 2: It won't be a big deal at all when we
Speaker 2: do a Patriots game.
Speaker 3: Huh, Tom, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine?
Speaker 3: No, Well we're going to have to imagine.
Speaker 1: You guys have to get there four in the morning.
Speaker 3: Just set up your your cameo booths right there. One
Speaker 3: dollar ever one in ket I Love You, Kevin.
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