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Speaker 2: All Right, Here we go with part two with our

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Speaker 2: a story, and and Kevin will listen to all of

434
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Speaker 2: my ideas and then say, you.

435
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,359
Speaker 3: Know what, that's great, but what do you think about

436
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 3: doing it this way?

437
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,199
Speaker 2: And you have this and and I'll just be like,

438
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.

439
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 2: And I'll text him in the middle of the night

440
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,120
Speaker 2: or ask him if I could go over it when

441
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 2: we're doing our little walk around the field. Sounds like

442
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 2: this year we won't have time with all the pictures

443
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 2: we're going to be taking. Four Sorry, Tom, I'm done

444
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,360
Speaker 2: taking pictures. Kevin needs to listen to my first hit.

445
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Speaker 3: Okay.

446
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's just such a caring teammate and he's

447
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 2: just he has a big enough job in the booth

448
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 2: that he is so worried about what the rest of

449
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 2: us have to do and how he can help, and

450
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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for that. I'm grateful for his relationship

451
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 2: and I'm really grateful he likes to have cocktails with

452
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: me at TGI Fridays in that Dallas terminop because there's

453
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 2: no one I like to have a Santa Margarita with

454
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Speaker 2: by Thelita event.

455
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Speaker 1: So I'm in park. I think you haven't hold it

456
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Speaker 1: on this podcast before having you.

457
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we showed up.

458
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Speaker 1: Was it?

459
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 3: It was Christmas time? Right?

460
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

461
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like was it Christmas Eve? I don't

462
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: even know it was right around.

463
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: Well, I want your advantage point back from this story,

464
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: so you know, you set up the story and then

465
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Speaker 2: let's give get Kevin's uh interpretation of what happened.

466
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Speaker 3: Was this the rude guy? Was this the guy? Oh

467
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 3: that was Christmas Eve?

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

469
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: This was just I think this was a round Christmas time.

470
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Speaker 2: But listen, one really cool thing. We all hate traveling.

471
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Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ass. But the cool thing

472
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: about our group, our LA group, we are so tight.

473
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: We know each other so well. We can do each

474
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Speaker 2: other's orders. We can run and make a flight and

475
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: get a burger and a drink, you know, without missing

476
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Speaker 2: a beat. But yeah, we showed up at the TGI Fridays.

477
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Speaker 2: We got a huge table and we were all ordering

478
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Speaker 2: a cocktail and I said, I'll have the Santa Margarita.

479
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 1: keV goes and I'm like, I'm looking at the mini

480
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Speaker 1: figure out I want. Was like, is that a Christmas one?

481
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 3: Drake? It was so good, so cute. Well I love it.

482
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, keV.

483
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: You've done so much in your career, clearly, and it's

484
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 2: really just getting started when you think about all the

485
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 2: incredible stuff that you have in front of you. Looking

486
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: back with baseball and football obviously so different. I've worked

487
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: in both myself, and I would always go back and

488
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: do baseball because it was the first sport that I

489
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: got to cover. It was my first on air job,

490
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: was working for the Rockies.

491
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Speaker 3: But it's so different. One hundred and.

492
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: Sixty to sixty three games and then it's like and

493
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: then the postseason, it's like, that is such a different grind.

494
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 2: The football is a grind, but condensed and much different.

495
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: How would you describe your experience in baseball because you

496
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: spent seven years right with the Mets. I did eight years.

497
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Speaker 1: There and it's it's exhausting, it's it's quite honestly, when

498
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: you're when you're doing a team and you're doing every game,

499
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's fun. It's great that time, but it

500
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: is exhausting, like it's just there's nowhere. Let's put it

501
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: this way. I and I know your time with Colorado

502
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: when you were there, like you saw on firsthand too, right,

503
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: But I am amazed, Like there were days I didn't

504
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: even want to get out of bed, and I'm just

505
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: talking for a living, Like I'm amazed at like getting

506
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: back from a trip at four in the morning, and

507
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: then you drive home and then you have a night

508
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 1: game that night at home. I'm like, how are these

509
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 1: guys playing and functioning? Like It's amazing what they do

510
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: and how they keep their bodies in shape, play that

511
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: every day, Like I I'm floored, like going through that

512
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: with them and seeing how they do it.

513
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 3: Such a good point.

514
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: I always said I wanted to be a starting pitcher

515
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: because I know I'm working every five days. These guys

516
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: that are every single day players, I'm all, hell no,

517
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: Like to your point, like or or having to play

518
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: double headers or things like that because of rescheduling and

519
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: all that. I have the utmost respect for baseball players

520
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: and for people that we know that work, you know,

521
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: still on that grind. Best piece of advice that or

522
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: let me rephrase that, what's the best question that someone

523
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: coming up in the business has asked you that You're like, Oh,

524
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: that's very insightful to ask a question like that.

525
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: You know, I get a lot of them. I would

526
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: say this, I this is me. Everybody is a little different.

527
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: But I always tell you know, whether it's college kids

528
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: or high school kids or whatever. I feel like, especially today,

529
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: so many people are like, Okay, in five years, I

530
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: got to be calling you know, the super Bowl, the

531
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: World Series or the NBA Finals or whatever, and you know,

532
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: in ten years, I got to be here. And I'm like,

533
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: why do you do that to yourself? Because to me,

534
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: and I know some people do do it and it

535
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: works for them, but to me, like that just sets

536
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: you up for failure because then in five years, if

537
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: you're not doing exactly that, are you a failure? Like?

538
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Did you fail yourself? I always feel like I always

539
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: tell so people will ask what's my goal? Where should

540
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: I be in five years? I'm like, you should be

541
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: hopefully enjoying what you're doing and hope getting better at

542
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: your craft and hopefully climbing up the ladder like that's it.

543
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I because I just I just don't know, like how

544
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: how you live up to that if you're not exactly

545
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: where you think you're supposed to be in I mean,

546
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: I have no idea where I'm going to be in

547
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: five years. I mean, I hope I'm doing the same thing.

548
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: I love what I'm doing right now, and I'm so

549
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: happy and I'm fortunate to be doing on right now.

550
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: But I don't. I just never liked that you know,

551
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: where do you want to be in five years or

552
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: ten years? Question? I think it puts you into a box,

553
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: and I think it's hard to get out of that.

554
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: So when I get that question a lot, I say

555
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: I would nix that thought and just work on being

556
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: the best of you and get better. But again, I

557
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: know people like that. I don't.

558
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much anxiety do you get if you don't

559
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: get through your articles by like noon or one? Same

560
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: explain for people that don't know what that means. Like

561
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: your packet of articles that you guys get so we.

562
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: Get, we get we get like a yeah, we get

563
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: we get to think called sports scan. It's like a

564
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: packet of articles, and you know we're obviously googling stuff

565
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: and read articles all over the place anyway, And I

566
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: have my own database that I staved stuff throughout the year. Database.

567
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh now they're talking, Oh yeah, you know, I mean listen,

568
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: it's not like I started on like in television back

569
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: in the day. You know, it's got a whole thing.

570
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: Rachel's like, where's Dad. He's downstairs in the basement with

571
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Speaker 3: his database. Database.

572
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
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Speaker 3: Database.

574
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: There's like the giant idea, the big tape reels running

575
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: behind me as I do it. No, I'm kidding the question.

576
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Margarita articles. How much anxiety you get if

577
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: you don't get through your articles? But I want to

578
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: make sure because we have a lot of different listeners, right.

579
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: And they're like, it's like, well, it's not, it's not.

580
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: It's a scan and you know, it depends on the

581
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: teams that we have. But like let's say we're doing

582
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Dallas Philly, it might be eighty pages of article, right,

583
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: Like it's it's like an eighty pace thing to read

584
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: through all the articles written about those two teams. And

585
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: so usually I get my morning coffee and I try

586
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: to get on that, like I feel like I have

587
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: an anxious thing if I don't finish it. And the

588
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: other days, as you know, like stuff comes up, you're

589
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: doing other stuff, maybe you got to run out, maybe

590
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: like it's in the way. And then it's like I

591
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: had dinner and I'm done with dinner and I'm like,

592
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: I'm only on page forty. I gotta go back. What

593
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: do I do? And I have to finish it like

594
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: that night. Otherwise it's like it's dead to me. If

595
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't finish sports again that night, it's gone. It

596
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: never existed. It's weird.

597
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: So funny.

598
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Do you have the same thing?

599
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

600
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 2: I usually start sweating out of all areas and then

601
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: I text you and I'm like, how far along are you?

602
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: Did you finish today? This is what I get on

603
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: the voice note. She leaves me. She's rambling about other things,

604
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: and she's like, I gotta go finish my articles. It's

605
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: always like my articles, my articles. It's like I get

606
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: I get a twitch if I don't. Hey, I have

607
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: some great news besides. In fact, we're going to let

608
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: Kevin go. We're all going to be together this weekend.

609
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we are, Yes, yeah, we are. I

610
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: forgot about that. It's already this weekend. Yeah, oh my,

611
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: I've better read my articles. This is crazy. Find my articles.

612
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna be together, but only one of us is

613
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: going to be on the air, so there's.

614
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.

615
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, then I better get my clip and extensions ready,

616
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: keV in. In short and in closing, I just hope

617
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: you know how much you are respected, not only by

618
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: people that have never met you and listened to you,

619
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: but first and foremost by two people that love you

620
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: and consider you family and Aaron as she's affectionately referred

621
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: to you multiple times in front of your wife as

622
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: your work wife. We love you and thank you for

623
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: being the absolute best.

624
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: Seriously, I love you both an honor to be on

625
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: the pod as a loyal fan and listener, and you're

626
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: the best.

627
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: You know, we're on our best behavior for you because

628
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: we were. Yeah.

629
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, no, no.

630
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Save save the non best for Saturday night. Anyway.

631
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you go high angle with Mike? Interested worried?

632
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm worried about that photo you took. Was it high angle?

633
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: Did you do multiple horizontal a You.

634
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: Know, I gotta be honest. I usually only think high

635
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: angle when Rachel is involmbed because you otherwise you'll get

636
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: on me. This was I'm looking right now. It was

637
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: a straight on like show us a picture.

638
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, oh my god, wait, this is great. You

639
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: took the picture with your what's Tom doing? Tom? Does

640
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: he know he's taking a picture?

641
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: That particular post is not good? It's fine? Is that? Dion?

642
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: What's going on? Emitt Smith's doing that?

643
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who that. I'm not sure who that

644
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: man is. To be honest, I don't know. At that point.

645
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: It was one sixteen when we were rehearsing in seven minutes,

646
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: so I was trying to get him off the field.

647
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Speaker 2: It won't be a big deal at all when we

648
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: do a Patriots game.

649
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: Huh, Tom, I'm not.

650
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Do you imagine?

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